My father is one of the men who do this. I am ashamed to say that he has "gone home" to Somalia (he has lived in the west for 20 years) and married a 21 year old (younger than most of his 9 children). He drove my mother to be mentally unstable and left his children with no regard for their futures. He has no regrets and does not even see himself as a wrong doer. What's worse is that all of our family, his family, our family friends and the wider community took his side and painted my mother (who was married to him for 30 years) as this jealous crazy lady who is upset that he left her for a "younger and purer" young lady. I wish I could say that at least I had my mother through this ordeal but she has always been a bitter, extremely angry, deeply traumatised and mentally unstable person. I was the 2nd youngest child and I never got to see my mother as a stable and happy person. This is something for which I can never forgive my father.
Pleasure has destroyed many family. I share deepest soory to what happen to your mum and family. I always respect elder man over 50s 60s praying God instead of ruuning after young virgin lady who later will let him down certainly.
Secret marriages are forbidden in Islam In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful It is a condition of a sound marriage that it be announced and attested to publicly. A secret marriage, which is only witnessed by a few people in private, is disapproved (makruh) at best and unlawful (haram) according to some scholars. It is potentially harmful to those affected by it, as it almost always involves deception or at least gross omission, especially if a man marries an additional wife in secret and without her consent. Allah said: فَانكِحُوهُنَّ بِإِذْنِ أَهْلِهِنَّ وَآتُوهُنَّ أُجُورَهُنَّ بِالْمَعْرُوفِ مُحْصَنَاتٍ غَيْرَ مُسَافِحَاتٍ وَلَا مُتَّخِذَاتِ أَخْدَانٍ Marry them with the permission of their families and give them their due as is good, chaste women, neither fornicators nor secret mistresses. Surat al-Nisa 4:25 Scholars have said that this verse prohibits secret marriages without witnesses, by drawing an analogy between a ‘secret mistress’ and a secret marriage. Ibn Taymiyyah writes: وَمَالِكٌ يُوجِبُ إعْلَانَ النِّكَاحِ وَنِكَاحُ السِّرِّ هُوَ مِنْ جِنْسِ نِكَاحِ الْبَغَايَا وَقَدْ قَالَ اللَّهُ تَعَالَى مُحْصَنَاتٍ غَيْرَ مُسَافِحَاتٍ وَلَا مُتَّخِذَاتِ أَخْدَانٍ فَنِكَاحُ السِّرِّ مِنْ جِنْسِ ذَوَاتِ الْأَخْدَانِ Malik obligated announcing the marriage in public. A secret marriage is a type of prostitution. Allah Almighty said: Chaste women, neither fornicators nor secret mistresses. (4:25) Thus, a secret marriage is a type of secret mistress. Source: Majmū’ al-Fatāwá 32/102 Scholars also refer to the statements of the Prophet (s) commanding the announcement of marriages in public. Aisha reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said: أَعْلِنُوا هَذَا النِّكَاحَ وَاجْعَلُوهُ فِي الْمَسَاجِدِ وَاضْرِبُوا عَلَيْهِ بِالدُّفُوفِ Announce this marriage publicly, conduct it in the mosque, and strike the drums for it. Source: Sunan al-Tirmidhī 1089, Grade: Hasan Muhammad ibn Hatib reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said: فَصْلُ مَا بَيْنَ الْحَرَامِ وَالْحَلَالِ الدُّفُّ وَالصَّوْتُ The difference between an unlawful and lawful marriage is the beating of drums and the raising of voices. Source: Sunan al-Tirmidhī 1088, Grade: Hasan Abdullah ibn al-Zubayr reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said: أَعْلِنُوا النِّكَاحَ Announce the marriage. Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Ibn Ḥibbān 4066, Grade: Hasan Based upon this evidence, it is said that a marriage conducted in secret is invalid and annulled, even if it has two credible witnesses and permission from a guardian. Abu Bakr Abdul Aziz said: نِكَاحُ السِّرِّ بَاطِلٌ؛ لِأَنَّ أَحْمَدَ قَالَ إذَا تَزَوَّجَ بِوَلِيٍّ وَشَاهِدَيْنِ لَا حَتَّى يُعْلِنَهُ A secret marriage is invalid, as Ahmad said: If he is married with a guardian’s permission and two witnesses, it is not so until it is announced publicly. Source: al-Mughnī 7/83 This was also the opinion of Imam Malik. However, most scholars said that a secret marriage is valid if it meets the condition of two credible witnesses and a guardian. It is in legal effect and will not be annulled, although it is disapproved to do so. Ibn Qudamah writes: فَإِنْ عَقَدَهُ بِوَلِيٍّ وَشَاهِدَيْن فَأَسَرُّوه أَوْ تَوَاصَوْا بِكِتْمَانِه كُرِهَ ذَلِك وَصَحَّ النِّكَاحُ If the marriage is contracted with a guardian and two witnesses, but he keeps it secret or conceals its attestation, that is disapproved but the marriage is valid. Source: al-Mughnī 7/83 And Ibn al-Qayyim writes: أَنَّ الشَّارِعَ اشْتَرَطَ لِلنِّكَاحِ شُرُوطًا زَائِدَةً عَلَى الْعَقْدِ تَقْطَعُ عَنْهُ شُبَهَ السِّفَاحِ كَالْإِعْلَامِ وَالْوَلِيِّ وَمَنْعِ امْرَأَةٍ أَنْ تَلِيَهُ بِنَفْسِهَا وَنَدَبَ إلَى إظْهَارِهِ حَتَّى اُسْتُحِبَّ فِيهِ الدُّفُّ وَالصَّوْتُ وَالْوَلِيمَةُ The Lawgiver has set conditions for marriage, in addition to the contract, in order to cut off any suspicion of promiscuity, such as announcing it, the guardian, and preventing a woman from conducting it by herself. It is encouraged to publicize it, even recommended to beat the drums, raise voices, and hold a banquet. Source: I’lām al-Muwaqqi’īn 3/113 This disapproval should not be taken lightly. The important point here is that the legal ‘validity’ of an act does not mean it is ethical or morally sound. If some scholars accept the validity of a secret marriage, that in no way implies they are endorsing or encouraging the act. Nevertheless, many scholars said that such a secret marriage resembles adultery despite being legally valid. Umar ibn al-Khattab was particularly strict about this matter. Abu al-Zubayr reported: Umar ibn al-Khattab, may Allah be pleased with him, was presented with a marriage which no one had witnessed except one man and one woman. Umar said: هَذَا نِكَاحُ السِّرِّ وَلَا أُجِيزُهُ وَلَوْ كُنْتُ تَقَدَّمْتُ فِيهِ لَرَجَمْتُ This is a secret marriage and I do not permit it. If I had known of it beforehand, I would have stoned them. Source: al-Muwaṭṭa’ 1136 This was a rhetorical threat to indicate the seriousness with which the matter should be taken. If there were no witnesses at all, the consensus of the scholars is that it is an act of adultery. Ibn Taymiyyah writes: وَأَمَّا نِكَاحُ السِّرِّ الَّذِي يَتَوَاصَوْنَ بِكِتْمَانِهِ وَلَا يُشْهِدُونَ عَلَيْهِ أَحَدًا فَهُوَ بَاطِلٌ عِنْدَ عَامَّةِ الْعُلَمَاءِ وَهُوَ مِنْ جِنْسِ السِّفَاحِ As for a secret marriage, the attestation of which is concealed and witnessed by no one, it is invalid according to the prevalent opinion of scholars. It is a type of illicit intercourse. Source: Majmū’ al-Fatāwá 33/158 In sum, secret marriages without witnesses are unconditionally forbidden in Islam as they resemble adultery. If a secret marriage meets the minimum legal requirements of two credible witnesses and permission of a guardian, then at the very least it is morally disapproved if not unlawful. Believing men who fear Allah would be wise to avoid contracting a secret marriage, especially if they are marrying a second wife behind the back of their first wife, her family, and her children.
@@هدي-ه8ظ whats my comment got to do with 4 wives?. Well, read this now: Allah said And you will never be able to be equal just between wives, even if you should strive [to do so]. From quran from Quran... Allah said Verily, Allah orders justice and good conduct and giving to relatives and he forbids immorality and bad conduct and transgression. He admonishes you that perhaps you will be reminded. Surat An-Nahl 16:90 And Allah says O you who believe, be persistently standing firm for Allah as witnesses in justice, and do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just, for that is nearer to righteousness. Fear Allah, for Allah is aware of what you do. Surat Al-Ma’idah 5:8 “A man who has two wives and who is completely inclined to one and who ignores the other emerges with one side of his body paralysed in the Day of Judgment.” (Hadith; Ibn Majah, Nikah, 47; Mishkat al-masabih, 2/196) A woman does not consent to share her husband with another woman under normal circumstances, and no woman would like to marry a married man unless she has to. It is a necessity of belief that polygamy is right. However, to believe it does not necessarily mean for a woman to consent to the second wife and approve it. No believer father would like his son-in-law to marry a second, third or fourth woman along with his daughter. The jealous nature of the woman and the affection of the father for his daughter disapproves this. As a matter of fact, the daughter of our beloved Prophet, Sayyidah Fatima, objected to her husband, Ali’s marrying of a second woman. If it weren’t permissible to object, Sayyidah Fatima, who was brought up by our Prophet, would not have objected. The Messenger of Allah would have warned her and ordered her to consent to her husband’s wish. However, it did not take place like that. On the contrary, the Messenger of Allah, who saw that his daughter was worried, asked Ali to give up his wish and told him that if he did not give it up, he could marry another woman after divorcing Sayyidah Fatima. He did not consent to Ali’s second marriage to depress his daughter. By considering that act of the Messenger of Allah, it can be stated that Muslim daughters and fathers may object to the second marriage of their husband or son-in-law. "I heard Allah's Apostle who was on the pulpit, saying, 'Banu Hisham bin Al-Mughira have requested me to allow them to marry their daughter to Ali bin Abu Talib, but I don't give permission, and will not give permission unless 'Ali bin Abi Talib divorces my daughter in order to marry their daughter, because Fatima is a part of my body, and I hate what she hates to see, and what hurts her, hurts me.'" (Bukhari, No. 4887)
Saying "Men are Polygamous by Nature" is against Islam..? Why do almost all Scholars claim that men are polygamous by nature with no Islamic claim? This makes men think it's okay to open doors and feel for multiple women, when in the west, where everyone is treated "equally" women are equally polygamous, cheating on their husbands, for "fun" not for "love or emotional" reasons as many put it. This means that both sexes are vulnerable in the same way. I think the society allows men to behave this way or think this way, because it's a male dominated world, and they supressed women since the beginning of time, when in the end, both men and women are the same, committing the same sins. However, the world makes it okay for men to be this way, claiming its their nature. Ever wonder why Muslim parents will abandon their daughters forever if they caught them speaking to a guy but will not do anything if their son goes out and sleeps around with women? Why is that? In the Shariah, both is a sin, both are haram! True women may be of more fitnah towards men, because women have more awrah to cover, yet they fail to, but most men are naturally in hijab, hence the reason for lesser fitnah for women. The Polygamy allowed also speaks about helping widows or orphans, anyone who can clearly study the Quran can understand that. The Sahabah and Prophets mostly married older women who had children from other men who had died. If men want to follow the example of the Prophet, they should follow it in the way he practiced it. Wars were common, many women were left without homes or men to take care of them. Had Allah disapproved, we would suffer social issues. There are many many many men who are happy with one wife, who dare not think about other women. Even having a thought of a non-mahram while married is a huge sin, how can one approach the thought of Polygamy knowing this is wrong? We see here the clear reasons for Polygamy. Some claim their wife is too fat or too old so they want to get another wife? It's because women are too busy with children they don't have time to even think of getting another man. Though the arab world makes it look like women have no physical desires or feelings. The fact that society has suppressed this, is proof why they claim "Men are Polygamous by nature" I would like to see any type of proof from Islam that this is true? Men were more free to do whatever they pleased, this is the real reason, before Islam and after Islam. It's not a religious view, its a social view. We Muslims are taught to follow the Quran and refer to sunnah and hadeeth, if men want to remarry, then why dont they read the verse on polygamy and refer to the sunnah and hadeeth? There are clear hadeeths that our Prophet pbuh the sahabah remarried older women to help them and be noble men for the sake of allah subhanwaltala, not for sexual reasons as Scholars put it these days. Also when Hazrat Ali wanted to take a second wife for the reasons I put above, it made Hzt Fatima upset and Prophet pbuh forbade Hazrat Ali remarrying a second wife. So if anyone can show a claim from ISLAM that men are polygamous, I would like to see. Please don't bring sciencists' claims into this, because even they claim things that go against Islam.
My dad tried to do this to my mom, but instead of Kenya/Somalia, they are from Ghana and they were legally married(divorced now). They got married, he got her pregnant, then he disappeared. He didn't think she was smart or connected, but she managed to get him placed on child support and he was arrested in the US for child abandonment and his wages were garnished. My mom moved to the US shortly after, then I came here as a child. To this day(30 years after the fact), he is still resentful that there were consequences to his actions and we have no relationship. I am his eldest but because I am a girl, I am dead to him. He has since gotten remarried and has 4 children, one of which is a boy, and he does not want anyone in his family to have a relationship with me. There is a disease of narcissism and entitlement that many African men exhibit (I understand it happens everywhere, but we are focussing on Africa right now). When our men and women start adopting some of these sociopathic tendencies, it's no wonder the continent as a whole is in such bad shape.
Paye Homage all of this is because of others (arabs and Europeans) meddling in the affairs of African people, distorting their native/original cultural practices.
@@jlynch7411 I agree. This is one of the reasons I think Polygamy in the right situations and in its pure form(the way our ancestors practiced it), can really benefit society. Not just 'secret marriages' or religious marriages, but legal marriages where the rights of all the women and children involved, are protected and recognized by governments. That could curb some of these issues. There also needs to be a system of accountability and punishment for men who do these things.
Well said, absolutely. This is why many of the male politians can steal from their own country as well. They don't value the family unit, they do not see women as human beings, and then on a larger scale it results in mass failure. Its an absolute disgrace.
A lot of people here are blaming the whites for this kind of behavior... However in my opinion somali men are using Islam as some what of a justification for their actions. They seem to think because they are men they are some how entitled to treat women like property. Im not saying this applies to all somali men but it does to these kinds of monsters.
@Ahmed Deq a sheikh CAN'T perform that can't conduct marriage without parents. But they are some people who name themselves as sheikhs and conduct fake marriages. Sheikh Can't bless someone for rape Unless you can't differentiate Who is sheikh and who isn't
Well you really can’t blame the sheikh ,hundreds of people come to them to officiate their Nikah and they really can’t tell their intentions since some people are actually serious about their marriage (unless it’s some type of setup with a fake sheikh for $)
Alhamdulilah may you be rewarded.I hope she can get herself on her feet inshaa'Allah.Im also worried for her chid being in that kind of environment as her mum seems so broken.
they do and that sad.because going back home they should help not abuse those who are not fortunate.is sad because now they leave those women with kids .what future to those kids .we all know how tradition can be strong in Africa when having child and ur not married . society reject u
Am a young Somali girl in Kenya who is pursuing her university ..am sure one day I will assist women and try to give them a guideline on how to not fall for men easily. This cases is happening all over the world simply because of being materialistic and not thinking about what will happen after the lust is over. Pray for me to reach my goal am sure I will manage as long as God is with me.. And you will manage as long as God is with you... Stay positive and pessimistic pray to God.. Cuz he is the one who put you on that situation and am sure God won't allow sadness or sorrow on to someone who is weak as we say sorrow is just like a fruit and God won't allow it to grow on a weak branch.. Allah Hafiz
+John Doe no the followers of Paul's religion the gospel of christ has destroyed many lives Starting in Europe under constantine,where the pagans,Christian heretics and jews where persecuted and terrorized by the christians who believed jesus was the son of god. and it continues till this day in Christian countries
@@electriclioness4607 that’s news to me but I’m in Columbus, Ohio which is the 2nd biggest home for Somalis in the country. Sad that some of us are going back home to abuse our sisters, but most (over 95%) that go back, are doing so to find a faithful woman from their own culture.
My dear brothers and sisters we should find away of helping all of them. May b do a fundraising for them to raise capiy for all of them n find one trust worthy contact person who is going to devide the cash equally among them n make sure that they start small businesses. What do u guys think?
Abdishukry I would suggest that we find one of our Somali TH-camrs who stays in Nairobi n we do the fundraising through her to help all of these women in the documentary to start businesse. What do you guys think? I saw shukri masala a TH-camr once collecting fund for asick person in Kenyatta hospital so I think if someone approaches her she can do it. Then we all send our donations to her. What do u think. Any other solution
This broke my heart when I was in Kenya for vacation I seen women wit there kids sleeping outside I felt so bad that I got them a hotel for a couple of days and food
You can do more help by proving things like clean water or education in poor vilages. Its cheap and long lasting.most of them leave their vilalages because of poor invironment
@@jigmanx Nothing white knight about being a decent human being and trying to ease someone else's suffering. If everyone treated everyone else with dignity, respect and kindness as SKOL NATION outlines, then the world would be a better place for all.
The cry of any somali mother for whatever reason always breaks my my heart...they have seen it all from famine,being refugees of war and now being duped by their own heartless men..sooo sad
Brother the women got in to an illegal marriage according to Islamic tradition a father a brother or a uncle have to allow permission for the marriage if they don't it's illegal so the women in this video none of them did this and so without the support of their family they were deceived it is there fault
@MzAyan B Because the Somali women in the West don't want them. The Somali women in the West have free education, health care and if they don't work they get support from the government. They have higher standards when it comes to men and these men who hustle poor wonen in Africa know this. I know few of them who went on holiday to Africa, got married over there, came back and never sponsored the women to get them to the West.
Bt Rec actually these men are already married - theres a reason its called "vacation marriage", after they're done they go back to their wives. somalis call this qudbo siro aka secret marriage
My uncle has moved to Nairobi. He was my favorite uncle when I was a child. He is now 60 years old and married to 19 year olds. His daughters live in Canada. I live in America. I hate him so much for doing this.
Any one interested to support Jamila, you can reach her through Deka Hassan. Deka is a local journalist and women’s advocate and was the program producer. Her email is: deka22@yahoo.com
This is sick. The fact that a family's so-called "honor" is dictated by a woman's virginity, rather than the actions of the men taking advantage of these women, is totally backwards. These men need to be held accountable for their actions and that's it. And this comments section really shows how sexism and misogyny are still thriving. Shameful.
Yes but we can support them. I know a lot of Somalian women and women from many Muslim backgrounds and they really look up to us british women in terms of all the things we can do and how strong we are. Working home gym relationship kids and we manage to Do it ❤️
the last woman at 6:02,i know her she once came to my place of attachment to report this kind of issue..i really felt her pain when she narrated her story even though her swahili was poor .she told me how she came to kenya as a refuge and all troubles she faced, then adding salt to the wounds a somali man did this to her and ruined her life.the man appeared years later to try to take the children away from her and until today he threatens her and harrasses her at her place of business in eastleigh .she told me that she hates somali men and would not marry again and would wish somali girls(kenyan and somalian) to be educated,informed and empowered mostly on issues regarding marriage,culture and religion.now she lives in this neighbourhood with few somalis together with her four children and she loves it cause she says it gives her freedom and independence.i ended up liking her and today we still talk on the phone .........
Let me follow your logic one Somali man harms her so she hates all Somali men? That sounds like a radical feminist to me. Tell her good luck riding the carousel
My blood boils to see how these young women are being taken advantage of. I'm also seething at just how much people keep saying, "they will deal with Allah." We need to stop blindly putting everything to DEEN and fix our internal issues. Our culture is sexist and this needs to be addressed ASAP. We need to put 100% of the blame on the men, not on these young women that are raised in poverty and are trying to find a better life. Edit: Diaspora Somali's... Please do not send money to Somali regions to build more "Dugsi." What does memorizing the Quran in Arabic do for these children when they do not even speak or understand Arabic to begin with? Send money to build schools for young children so that they can have a future. Send money to fund businesses, to invest, etc. If you send money to build/fund dugsi then you are a part of the problem.
jamzilla6 islam is part and parcel of being a somali, you need to keep your europhile self in Europe or whatever western country you reside in ,no somali will accept you.
jamzilla6 what about the somali cougar women majority from the uk who takes advantage of the young educated local men in somalia and then never bring them to europe?? U want to scream wolf do it proper because actually the problem goes both ways
I have experienced this from a man who moved from the west and has a business here. He told me that he will give me the world, take me places, rent and furnish a house for me but i have to first get married to him without telling my parents and I'm grateful i was able to discern that his intentions were not pure and refused to accept his proposal. Somali men tend to want to take advantage of young girls and women who are looking to change their lives and it's sad. I hope I'm able to contribute in anyway i can into enlightening our girls and women so that their lives don't turn out to be miserable. I share my experiences on my TH-cam channel in the hopes of uplifting, inspiring and empowering our girls and women. I pray for these women to find peace and better lives. Amen
As a Somali young man (20) my whole life I never disrespected my mother, sister and all somali women. They are our strenght, our queens and our beautiful people. As a somali this really hurt me to the core, seeing a haboo or walashey from another mother cry is very saddening and painful, Somali men when will you stop hurting our beautiful women, when will you be real men, when will you guide our somali youth, build our country up again and be leaders, fight for peace and happiness. To all my somali momas and sisters I am deeply sorry, may ASW forgive them.
I have also gotten engaged twice but in Somalia neither female got pregnant and for each of them our time just ended for the fear of God I don’t know if I could ever play with a womans soul like that.
I wish I could in contact with that young lady. If anyone know her or is based in Eastleigh please post a way to contact that lady so I could support her. And these men should be hunted down and legal proceedings be brought to them in their countries of residence. Name and shame these bastards and if I met them in person I’d give them more than that wallahi. These low lives who ain’t good for nothing are shaming our name as Somali men
This is not a new issue. It has been going on for as long as Somalis have lived outside the country. This is done by all types of Somali men; young and old, wealthy and poor, those in West and those living in the East, and those from all the different tribes and clans. We all know someone who has gone back to Somalia and married a young woman (sometimes under age or inappropriately young), whilst having another family in the city they live in. They are our brothers, fathers, uncles, cousins, grandfathers and sometimes our husbands. What do we do about these men? Nothing. While we continue to welcome these men back into our families, they will not change. We need to shame them in public. If they have no other shame, they need to feel scared about losing their families, being shunned from their communities. Otherwise there will be many more Jamilas in this world.
I have done my part to expose some of the sick men in our community plz give me their full names, phone numbers I promise I'll make sure they pay heavy price. One time I reported this fake sheikh relative of mine who abused innocent child he used her and abandoned and left her for nothing smh once I heard about it I reported to the local police and called his workplace and spoke to his supervisor that he was pedophile luckily, he got fired and was facing series case of sexual exploitation for a minor. I'll do my best to expose, shame and post all their pics, names, where they live, where they work, and what they have done to innocent Somali girls. We need to call out all the rapist, pervert, pedo and child molester scumbags
Amina that is not the issue marriage under age you are right with that but sister this one is those who sleeping their somalian sister and when a baby come that is when that mother and her baby is on your shoulder. the issue under marrage is another problem but this is more dangreos.
I don't know how you believe this kind this guy he went dhilo guuryahod they looking for westren passport they most force to man I saw my own eyes cayda kadaa waa abaah iyo walaalka
Shame on the Somali men who took advantage of this girls. This has been happening for a while am glad they are shedding light on this. Raga somaliyeed Allah o waxan samaynaya kabaqa malin lais xisaabinayo aya jirta, teda kale miyedan kabaqayn gabdhihina in laga jaro ta gabdhaha masakinta kusamayneysan.
@@camey2754 don't blame the victim as a man wlh wadankii iyo dadkiiba nin somaliyeed ba dumiyay it pains me wlh gabdhihii somaliyeed ban xumaynay , hoyadii , ilmihii it is sad
@@makamukijedda6392 Christian prince sits behind a screen. Watch sheikh uthman conversation with sam and david wood. One message foundation on youtube.
I feel terribly hurt my ex partner from this background did that to several young girls and abandon his son in London. I have suffered fie 10 solid years and he lately when he decided to come back and behave like a victim taking me to court and lying his teeth down. This man are just so disgusting.
The concept of an old rich man marrying a young poor girl is seen in every single society across the globe. Every single one. Rich old Arab, African, Indian, White men go back home (or in the case of the white man, Asia) and marry poor young women and abuse them. This is not unique to the Somali community.
@suri m , When you’re reading a post from a Somali girl talking about Somali men, it’s quite easy to mistake yourself that you’re reading a post from an EDL or BNP member….the strongest women in the world! We usually see the white man using racial stereotypes to describe the black men ‘they don’t work, they’re lazy and sleep during the day and deceitful with women’ that’s how white men describe black men…black women calling their men lazy criminals is something I’ve never seen in my life, they understand fully the position in society that their men are in and the struggles they face. The Somali girl doesn’t even understand that their people faces a WAR, and seen dead bodies, and had to leave all of their possessions and dreams behind, and had to take lower jobs like taxi drivers and warehouse workers in hopes that they’re children could create a middle class…what they didn’t realise is how strong Somali girls are and the society they’ve created as first generation Somali girls in the west, is one of self hate…because they’re strong.
I can see in jamila face that she is very hurt and heart broken. I'm so sorry my dear sister! If jamila husband sees this please take care of your responsibility and take care of your child, you deadbeat!!
Nacima Runtad way wallahi. I M REALLY FILLING SHAMEFUL FOR WAT SOMALI MEN DOING WITH OUR QUEENS. YOUR INDIAN BROTHER. ISXAQ MUXAMMAD ISXAQ. DAR ES SALAAM TANZANIA +255 745 222 913
@@ishaqmuhammadsonara115 so are you Indian or somalian? I've been to TZ before and it's a beautiful country that I would love to go back in the future. It's so hard for me to believe that your Indian n know the somalian language
Being a virgin doesn’t give you dignity and honor maybe it’s a system that is messed up that needs to be changed. A woman’s worth is not her body or sexuality. She is worth much more than just this.This happens in Pakistan and India and many other countries maybe it’s the men that need to stop exploiting women and as a society we need to teach them this is WRONG and maybe we should stop blaming victims. Men with this mentality exploit women that are not of their country what makes us think they won’t exploit their own sisters. Look now they are it’s a sick game of power and dominance.This is an epidemic. My heart goes out to these women and all women of the world suffering from sexual exploitation.
Apologise To All Queens Of Somali To All Foolish Men's Must Stop This Thing Wlhi is Not Something Good Somali queen's Are You Sisters Mother's ND Daughters Also Please Men's Stop This Behavior Thanks
Jess.. Our Beautiful Girls Are Queen Of The Queens You Can Said What Ever You Want But My Side Are Queens Our Beautiful Somali Girls My Allah Bless Them
@@theman8070 It was narrated from ‘Ali (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade mut’ah marriage and the meat of domestic donkeys at the time of Khaybar. According to another report, he forbade mut’ah marriage at the time of Khaybar and he forbade the meat of tame donkeys. Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 3979; Muslim, 1407.
@@theman8070this is a Shia thing and even if it’s permitted, it’s not allowed for the husband to abandon the wife in poverty and with her child. Get over this nonsense
I'm a father, brother, son and a husband and I'm sure every man on the earth is in the category of one of those if not all. I cannot tolerate the least of harms to happen to any of my female relatives and to those innocent girls who put their trust and love around your neck. I believe that a real man or a noble man would not act like that. This film really broke my heart and I'm shaking at this moment. I don't know what more I could say to those ignorant men other than don't do to an innocent girl what you wouldn't like to be done to your daughter, sister and mother.
I couldn't even finish the video when that 17 year old girl started speaking. Brought tears to my eyes. Sad to see these things happening in Kenya but records of these men should exist somewhere, they should be tracked down and punished.
These are the Jobless somali uncles in the cafes of london. I say this as a somali myself. This seems to be a persistent issue with somali men in our culture who go back home"for "business reasons" apparently but we all know its to fufill their lust by getting a temporary marriage with a young woman.
This makes me so sad. I pray to Allah swt that these men will NEVER experience a second of peace in their life ever again and will be punished in the most severe way in the hereafter. I truly wish them the worst of the worst. But Allah swt is just and they will get what's coming to them. It's a matter of time.
To the Somali women and also the good men out there, such as the man who made this documentary, thank you for all your work and keep going! For evey girl we save, our country will be the better for it. Inshallah one day, we will reap the fruits of our labour and have a more united and happier nation.
I’m not even a Somali and I want to apologize, as a muslim and a man, to all my Somali sisters for these horrible men that I can’t call even call men. I’m having a hard time seeing them as muslims, but it is what it is. They’re a disgrace. I hope my sisters think carefully next time and choose their husbands wisely. You do not have to be ashamed sisters, you did nothing wrong. May Allah protect you and your family and guide you to everything that is right. Just keep the duaa going. Love and respect!
@@SheedLordBear He says he wants to, he does not say he has to. Evidently he doesn't have to. So maybe better question: Why don't you understand that there are men who really do want to be a part of the solution? ...
Because there are men love that in countries like Somalia there are still women that can be abused in this way and can get away with it. In the Uk they couldn’t. I often hear men talking about having a wife and saying they will get her in Somalia or Pakistan cos they still find subservient women there. It’s all wrong ! Weak men feel powerful by abusing women that’s what I have noticed throughout my life. So wrong !
I wish the western govts will help trace this men and force them to take care of the problem they ve caused..in western world if a man abandons his children the govt will intervene and deduct from the mans salary the childs upkeep whether he likes it or not...i hope they will do the same here..it can be done if kenyan govt and the west coperate on the issue..
Even if they are traced down..its impossible for western governments to make these guys responsible for their actions. This has been happening in India for years...now it's the somalis turn...the only thing that can be done is if they go back to kenya to have then arrested and charged
Subhanallah May allah guide us all. This Practice has to stop and we can’t let our sisters suffer. Imagine if that was you’r sister what would you do ? We all have sisters i wouldn’t want my sister to be a victim of this practice. I’m so disappointed and outraged. Reporter Jamal you’ve highlighted a huge problem that causing a lot of pain and distress within our community . I applaud you for the great work.
Someone needs to advise her to go to the u.s. embassy and tell the father's name, possibly get support, and even say he abandoned her..he might get deported
Same is occurring in India as well...spcly in punjab.. They come back from west.. Marry.. Take huge dowries nd leave with the money back to their countries... Nd leave the brides. Nd the worst part is people sell their land property to afford the marriage nd dowry..
If you get the full name of the person and date of birth we can a-shame the exploiter and bring them to justice where possible. I am really disgusted by the men who use and abuse the world.
All marriage should be documented at the embassy of the groom. So if a Somali man came from the UK and wants to marry a girl in Kenya, then the UK embassy must be notified and issues a marriage certificate. This way the bride can have the right for a Visa to the UK ! Soon the grooms will stop playing around
Please how can I get in contact with these women. My heart is in pain knowing they are going through this hardship. Where is humanity? The day will come for these men who have abused these innocent ladies but in the meantime please lets help our sisters in Islam.💔
I am from afghanistan i love you all Somalia Sisters May Allah help you and Allah punish these Baster guys Amin soma Amin 😑 I have Somalia friends and we see each other every days and talk and meet them , they are so cute and very honest people , but I didn't understand why some of them is disrespecting for their beautiful women !!!! 😡 be Ashame and fear of Allah wooo the friends of Devils do not disrespect another women someone will disrespect your sister or Daughter Or Mom 😡
This is so EVIL! I know this is an old news story. However, does anyone know how to reach these sisters? I'd really like to help them. This makes me so angry!
asalam alaykum you can't not label all somali mans to the bad ones Im educated living in the west enjoying my single life I ain't bad or in that group girls should take responsibility too for marrying them everyone in this life has a choice who they want to marry you can't label all man for this
asalam alaykum plus this happens in other Muslims community as well as a man I feel bad and sad for the woman who experiencing but people should take responsibility
asalam alaykum most guys I know are in university working hard non of them ain't married for you to label all is bad what i don't get is why girls don't take responsibility for who ever they are dating or marrying use your mindset don't be fooled then moan later on this also happens in other Muslims community they working together why can't we do the same instead of talking like this while non somali only to laugh at us fighting each other
Right but we can’t blame them. I knew some girl. She got family and everything. And their was a guy who couldn’t let her rest he could tell everything that he loves her and he is ready to meet her family and everything. He was so convincing. So she said let me give it a try and that man was coming to UK to meet up his wife which he never met before. But was hoping at the same time to hookup with this girl. But she found out and just left him. So some Somali men are crazy. And the other hand somali girls believe something which is very wrong to put men first. They never ask about what they want or put their feelings first. Men is the most important thing for them. They always thing and wait some guy will come and change their life to be better. But most of this men are here to make sure to make it even worse. So I could advise them that they can do everything they want and make the dream come true. With or with out a man. And they can say NO, they have a choice. And if the first or second or even third is not the right one, they should wait. Because no matter what someone is out there. Who will appreciate and honour them.👋🏼
Its so shameful. I don't feel comfortable when i see our young sisters suffering due to being mistreated by their husbands. Women should be respected and aman should know the value of a woman.
Exactly bro. The quicker we unify the quicker we are to stop the disintegration of our entire nation. Walahi every year that passes is a year where our Ethnic Identity itself is being lost. Because a lot of Somalis here in the Diaspora are even forgetting their mother tongue, and are starting to identify as Black as a substitute for identity rather than embracing their own Ethnic Identity and Culture, every day I stress about the future of our people, wallahi I wish I knew what to do.......
@Quraysh القرشي Your out of touch. Mogadishu has always been Somali, Yemenis and Omanis only came to Mogadishu because of trade same goes for many other groups. Trying to rewrite history is a pathetic attempt, your just another revisionist that can't come to terms with the truth.
1. Hawiye and Darod have not only been occupying those places they have been INHABITING those places, for generations on end. Since ancient times the ancestors of Somalis have lived in the Somali Peninsula and have lived where Mogadishu is now. 2. The coast is not just Arab Benediri idiot, it is incredibly mixed. Somalis from all sorts of clans have lived in Mogadishu, historically it has been MAINLY Hawiye and Darod, Arab Xamaris are only a recent inclusion, and they came from Yemen and Oman because of trade relations with Somalis, and later on settled in Xamar (Mogadishu) and the south-eastern coast after they were assimilated and accepted by our people. STOP TRYING TO BE A REVISIONIST
Ali Hussein ..if you are stating that you are not black..then what race are somalians? Even your Middle East Arab brothers classify you as black Africans...
It's unfortunate that this is happening to women who can hardly defend themselves. What makes it even harder to control is that, there is nothing like "vacation marriage" in legal terms. This is considered as domestic dispute with a lot of twists and turns to it. But I fully applaud chief Jawahir for doing such a wonderful dispute resolution in the heart of Eastleigh. And I can say this about her because I have been to Nairobi lately (on and off) for the past few years and it's then that I realized the importance and value of this chief in the heart of Eastleigh community
A first step might be to reach out to the reporter to find out if there are any local organizations that are working on behalf of women who share Jamila's fate.
She needs all the help she can get. That’s why she agreed to show her face on camera. A good Somali man could step up to the plate and make her a happy wife. That’s a good start.
She can go to the American embassy and tell them that the father abandoned her and they can possibly start the process of getting support and even many more resources.
I read somewhere that UK recently passed a law which makes British citizens/residents who engage in acts abroad that would be a crime liable in British courts. I don't know how much of that would apply to these harrowing stories, but that might be a way forward.
It is absolutely sad story. These men lack integrity and manhood. It is shame to hear that Somali men are exploiting young beautiful girls. On other hand Somali ladies trust in themselves and refrain from thinking about marrying men from west. They should pay close attention to whom they are sharing the life with regardless of his money or material.
Hello !!am in Kenya!I want to help Jamila.How can I reach her ?That girl has so much potential !I wish men could see! Am not a Somali man,but she's human and through proper nurturing and support this girl can take the world as her own.She doesn't deserve this.No one does.I don't care how many men she has slept with.I have seen great potential in her and I am going to help reach her fullest potential.You guys have an email I can communicate with you guys .Jamila deserves the best.
Shame on these kind of men who take advantage of our sisters.Don't ever think this to happen to your sister.plz men own your manhoodness and fear Allah.
Walaalo Somali men are not degenerates, in every group there are bad apples. Please don't say such things. I will always respect and admire my fellow Somali counterparts.
Lukaku's First Touch What kind of self-hate is that man? just because a few idiots decide to do this you want to label us all? niin raag iska diig man and stop this self wallowing. There are good Somali men out there and and bad ones too just like of any creed.
Muna .A Somali women are queens and don't deserve this Wallahi. My whole life is dedicated in making my queens happy and empowering them to be self sufficient. I want to see educated, power and financial independent Somali women. Somali women are agents of political change and promotors of peace and security. The prophet Muhammad(saw) said respect and live with your women honourably. I apologise to all my queens Wallahi.
I was Nairobi Kenya, and one day I was visiting Jawahir office. And the first thing I saw she was beating man inside her office. This lady is not a joke.
The police women chief should be sacked immediately, it was clear the call she was making was fake. She never addressed him with his full name but instead she unprofessionally yelled the victims full name. My blood boiled when I what was happening at this police station. Sock !
The whole problem came from poverty ...ignorans ...and the stricet culture rules who lead these women to this fate . But the depressing truth is that the somalian guys from diaspora are taking advantge over the poor snd needy girls , this is so shamfull . And its not just happen to somali girls in kenya only but also to those in saudi also i sow some tragic event like that 😟😐
Quraysh القرشي It is two sided fault , the women also are playing a role in this problem no one will deny that BUT as i said ignorans and poverty are limiting thair chance to have a good qaulity and honourable life , and make them to take that kind of choice . Regarding KSA , this things happen among somali society over thair , and no one complain or say any thing to the local authority , at lest in kenya they report about these situations .
Yeah because cultureless whites don't do this lol This is a problem for all rich men. They go to poorer countries and take advantage of the girls/guys.
l pray that our girls learn how to be independent and never to compromise their dignity ...am a university student but l chose to stay away from immorality as its the mother to all other problems.... May God protect us... Amen
I know one of these womens. As I awere she suffered a lot. She got married by non diaspora Somali man at Eastliegh, who abandoned her in the middle of no where. She got pregnany and after months twins arrived!. In Nairobi, life is very expensive imagine having two twins with someone no support😥. I'm still worry about how her life going through.
No one's saying that, "all Somali boys are like this." And you saying they aren't doesn't help the issue at all. The Somali men who do this are at fault and should be held accountable. That's it.
Mona Al I think girls should take responsibility for they action this not just somali problems it also happen to other Muslims community what I hate about our community we bring each other down instead of working things together just like other communities
Anna even doe I feel so angry but no one has the right to label other for one guy problem this also happens in other Muslims community as well they working together for better why our community do the same instead of bring each other down while others laugh at us shameful waliahi
As an Ethiopian male my heart broken when I see the suffering of young refugee who could be my sisters. Let's stop the talk & walk the walk & focus on two major solutions. 1) All abusers should be reported to the US/EU embassies in Nairobi so that justice will be served slowly but surely. 2) The Somali community in the west eg. in London & Minnesota should launch a gofundme account with great transparency & accountability to raise money & support the victims. I will be one of the contributors. Thanks
You want to support women for their bad decision making. These women get married behind their parents back. This is zina. I have zero compassion for these women. I travel often if women are under the illusion I will come to rescue them it is their own stupidity. I saw firsthand visiting Kenya women meeting men without the supervision of their father or male relatives. To be frank Muslim women want to operate like modern western women. They don’t seem to understand operating like a modern woman has real world consequences. These women aren’t children. They should have chosen better. Women always want to play the victim pretend they were duped.
They 've been fucked up in the civil war they are not mentally stable all of them no sane man would do this wait Egyptian men do that to their girls marry them without documents then deny the marriage and disown their children!! I guess it's the African men mentality
@@midnimochannel3665 it’s not common in Ethiopia we don’t have diasporas going back for 2nd/secret marriage but there is prostitution but the girls chose to do it themselves
It's shamefull thing that somali Men are doing this bad things to our beloved sisters. Illahey narta haku fogeeyo qofki gabar Soomaaliyed ku cayaaro. Nacala idin kuyaalo.
This is what happens when you destroy you nation, criminals will have power and will take advantage of the weak link...any country that has civil war goes thru bad and negative outcome. Let's build somalia and support our government. Dont fight with emotion but let's use our mind.
Samir Noor THANK YOU BRO SAMIR NOOR 1 I PAY QARAN QARAN IT THE MANY THAT MUDANE M A FARMAAJO ASK AS TO REBUILD OUR NATIONAL SOMALI ARMY I WILL TRY TO BAY AND THANK YOU BECOUSE NO STABLE GOVERMENT MEANS NO LIFE FOR ALL OF US INCLUDING THE COMING GENERATION'S
dont feel shame if a man did this to you. what did you do wrong? falling in love? that is nothing to be ashamed of and should not result in harming some nonsense pride in a family name
My father is one of the men who do this. I am ashamed to say that he has "gone home" to Somalia (he has lived in the west for 20 years) and married a 21 year old (younger than most of his 9 children). He drove my mother to be mentally unstable and left his children with no regard for their futures. He has no regrets and does not even see himself as a wrong doer. What's worse is that all of our family, his family, our family friends and the wider community took his side and painted my mother (who was married to him for 30 years) as this jealous crazy lady who is upset that he left her for a "younger and purer" young lady. I wish I could say that at least I had my mother through this ordeal but she has always been a bitter, extremely angry, deeply traumatised and mentally unstable person. I was the 2nd youngest child and I never got to see my mother as a stable and happy person. This is something for which I can never forgive my father.
Sorry to hear this. Hope life gets easier for u and for ur mum
Wow that’s horrible and I hope you are doing well now 🥺
Pleasure has destroyed many family. I share deepest soory to what happen to your mum and family. I always respect elder man over 50s 60s praying God instead of ruuning after young virgin lady who later will let him down certainly.
I’m sorry to hear this this hopefully your life gets better
Sorry to hear that
The families who abandon thier daughters are worse than the men
Exactly!
Secret marriages are forbidden in Islam
In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful
It is a condition of a sound marriage that it be announced and attested to publicly. A secret marriage, which is only witnessed by a few people in private, is disapproved (makruh) at best and unlawful (haram) according to some scholars. It is potentially harmful to those affected by it, as it almost always involves deception or at least gross omission, especially if a man marries an additional wife in secret and without her consent.
Allah said:
فَانكِحُوهُنَّ بِإِذْنِ أَهْلِهِنَّ وَآتُوهُنَّ أُجُورَهُنَّ بِالْمَعْرُوفِ مُحْصَنَاتٍ غَيْرَ مُسَافِحَاتٍ وَلَا مُتَّخِذَاتِ أَخْدَانٍ
Marry them with the permission of their families and give them their due as is good, chaste women, neither fornicators nor secret mistresses.
Surat al-Nisa 4:25
Scholars have said that this verse prohibits secret marriages without witnesses, by drawing an analogy between a ‘secret mistress’ and a secret marriage.
Ibn Taymiyyah writes:
وَمَالِكٌ يُوجِبُ إعْلَانَ النِّكَاحِ وَنِكَاحُ السِّرِّ هُوَ مِنْ جِنْسِ نِكَاحِ الْبَغَايَا وَقَدْ قَالَ اللَّهُ تَعَالَى مُحْصَنَاتٍ غَيْرَ مُسَافِحَاتٍ وَلَا مُتَّخِذَاتِ أَخْدَانٍ فَنِكَاحُ السِّرِّ مِنْ جِنْسِ ذَوَاتِ الْأَخْدَانِ
Malik obligated announcing the marriage in public. A secret marriage is a type of prostitution. Allah Almighty said: Chaste women, neither fornicators nor secret mistresses. (4:25) Thus, a secret marriage is a type of secret mistress.
Source: Majmū’ al-Fatāwá 32/102
Scholars also refer to the statements of the Prophet (s) commanding the announcement of marriages in public.
Aisha reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said:
أَعْلِنُوا هَذَا النِّكَاحَ وَاجْعَلُوهُ فِي الْمَسَاجِدِ وَاضْرِبُوا عَلَيْهِ بِالدُّفُوفِ
Announce this marriage publicly, conduct it in the mosque, and strike the drums for it.
Source: Sunan al-Tirmidhī 1089, Grade: Hasan
Muhammad ibn Hatib reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said:
فَصْلُ مَا بَيْنَ الْحَرَامِ وَالْحَلَالِ الدُّفُّ وَالصَّوْتُ
The difference between an unlawful and lawful marriage is the beating of drums and the raising of voices.
Source: Sunan al-Tirmidhī 1088, Grade: Hasan
Abdullah ibn al-Zubayr reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said:
أَعْلِنُوا النِّكَاحَ
Announce the marriage.
Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Ibn Ḥibbān 4066, Grade: Hasan
Based upon this evidence, it is said that a marriage conducted in secret is invalid and annulled, even if it has two credible witnesses and permission from a guardian.
Abu Bakr Abdul Aziz said:
نِكَاحُ السِّرِّ بَاطِلٌ؛ لِأَنَّ أَحْمَدَ قَالَ إذَا تَزَوَّجَ بِوَلِيٍّ وَشَاهِدَيْنِ لَا حَتَّى يُعْلِنَهُ
A secret marriage is invalid, as Ahmad said: If he is married with a guardian’s permission and two witnesses, it is not so until it is announced publicly.
Source: al-Mughnī 7/83
This was also the opinion of Imam Malik. However, most scholars said that a secret marriage is valid if it meets the condition of two credible witnesses and a guardian. It is in legal effect and will not be annulled, although it is disapproved to do so.
Ibn Qudamah writes:
فَإِنْ عَقَدَهُ بِوَلِيٍّ وَشَاهِدَيْن فَأَسَرُّوه أَوْ تَوَاصَوْا بِكِتْمَانِه كُرِهَ ذَلِك وَصَحَّ النِّكَاحُ
If the marriage is contracted with a guardian and two witnesses, but he keeps it secret or conceals its attestation, that is disapproved but the marriage is valid.
Source: al-Mughnī 7/83
And Ibn al-Qayyim writes:
أَنَّ الشَّارِعَ اشْتَرَطَ لِلنِّكَاحِ شُرُوطًا زَائِدَةً عَلَى الْعَقْدِ تَقْطَعُ عَنْهُ شُبَهَ السِّفَاحِ كَالْإِعْلَامِ وَالْوَلِيِّ وَمَنْعِ امْرَأَةٍ أَنْ تَلِيَهُ بِنَفْسِهَا وَنَدَبَ إلَى إظْهَارِهِ حَتَّى اُسْتُحِبَّ فِيهِ الدُّفُّ وَالصَّوْتُ وَالْوَلِيمَةُ
The Lawgiver has set conditions for marriage, in addition to the contract, in order to cut off any suspicion of promiscuity, such as announcing it, the guardian, and preventing a woman from conducting it by herself. It is encouraged to publicize it, even recommended to beat the drums, raise voices, and hold a banquet.
Source: I’lām al-Muwaqqi’īn 3/113
This disapproval should not be taken lightly. The important point here is that the legal ‘validity’ of an act does not mean it is ethical or morally sound. If some scholars accept the validity of a secret marriage, that in no way implies they are endorsing or encouraging the act.
Nevertheless, many scholars said that such a secret marriage resembles adultery despite being legally valid. Umar ibn al-Khattab was particularly strict about this matter.
Abu al-Zubayr reported: Umar ibn al-Khattab, may Allah be pleased with him, was presented with a marriage which no one had witnessed except one man and one woman. Umar said:
هَذَا نِكَاحُ السِّرِّ وَلَا أُجِيزُهُ وَلَوْ كُنْتُ تَقَدَّمْتُ فِيهِ لَرَجَمْتُ
This is a secret marriage and I do not permit it. If I had known of it beforehand, I would have stoned them.
Source: al-Muwaṭṭa’ 1136
This was a rhetorical threat to indicate the seriousness with which the matter should be taken. If there were no witnesses at all, the consensus of the scholars is that it is an act of adultery.
Ibn Taymiyyah writes:
وَأَمَّا نِكَاحُ السِّرِّ الَّذِي يَتَوَاصَوْنَ بِكِتْمَانِهِ وَلَا يُشْهِدُونَ عَلَيْهِ أَحَدًا فَهُوَ بَاطِلٌ عِنْدَ عَامَّةِ الْعُلَمَاءِ وَهُوَ مِنْ جِنْسِ السِّفَاحِ
As for a secret marriage, the attestation of which is concealed and witnessed by no one, it is invalid according to the prevalent opinion of scholars. It is a type of illicit intercourse.
Source: Majmū’ al-Fatāwá 33/158
In sum, secret marriages without witnesses are unconditionally forbidden in Islam as they resemble adultery. If a secret marriage meets the minimum legal requirements of two credible witnesses and permission of a guardian, then at the very least it is morally disapproved if not unlawful. Believing men who fear Allah would be wise to avoid contracting a secret marriage, especially if they are marrying a second wife behind the back of their first wife, her family, and her children.
@@JahannamHellfire 4 wives is halal.
@@هدي-ه8ظ whats my comment got to do with 4 wives?. Well, read this now: Allah said
And you will never be able to be equal just between wives, even if you should strive [to do so]. From quran from Quran...
Allah said
Verily, Allah orders justice and good conduct and giving to relatives and he forbids immorality and bad conduct and transgression. He admonishes you that perhaps you will be reminded.
Surat An-Nahl 16:90
And Allah says
O you who believe, be persistently standing firm for Allah as witnesses in justice, and do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just, for that is nearer to righteousness. Fear Allah, for Allah is aware of what you do.
Surat Al-Ma’idah 5:8
“A man who has two wives and who is completely inclined to one and who ignores the other emerges with one side of his body paralysed in the Day of Judgment.” (Hadith; Ibn Majah, Nikah, 47; Mishkat al-masabih, 2/196)
A woman does not consent to share her husband with another woman under normal circumstances, and no woman would like to marry a married man unless she has to.
It is a necessity of belief that polygamy is right. However, to believe it does not necessarily mean for a woman to consent to the second wife and approve it.
No believer father would like his son-in-law to marry a second, third or fourth woman along with his daughter. The jealous nature of the woman and the affection of the father for his daughter disapproves this. As a matter of fact, the daughter of our beloved Prophet, Sayyidah Fatima, objected to her husband, Ali’s marrying of a second woman. If it weren’t permissible to object, Sayyidah Fatima, who was brought up by our Prophet, would not have objected. The Messenger of Allah would have warned her and ordered her to consent to her husband’s wish. However, it did not take place like that. On the contrary, the Messenger of Allah, who saw that his daughter was worried, asked Ali to give up his wish and told him that if he did not give it up, he could marry another woman after divorcing Sayyidah Fatima. He did not consent to Ali’s second marriage to depress his daughter.
By considering that act of the Messenger of Allah, it can be stated that Muslim daughters and fathers may object to the second marriage of their husband or son-in-law.
"I heard Allah's Apostle who was on the pulpit, saying, 'Banu Hisham bin Al-Mughira have requested me to allow them to marry their daughter to Ali bin Abu Talib, but I don't give permission, and will not give permission unless 'Ali bin Abi Talib divorces my daughter in order to marry their daughter, because Fatima is a part of my body, and I hate what she hates to see, and what hurts her, hurts me.'" (Bukhari, No. 4887)
Saying "Men are Polygamous by Nature" is against Islam..?
Why do almost all Scholars claim that men are polygamous by nature with no Islamic claim? This makes men think it's okay to open doors and feel for multiple women, when in the west, where everyone is treated "equally" women are equally polygamous, cheating on their husbands, for "fun" not for "love or emotional" reasons as many put it.
This means that both sexes are vulnerable in the same way.
I think the society allows men to behave this way or think this way, because it's a male dominated world, and they supressed women since the beginning of time, when in the end, both men and women are the same, committing the same sins. However, the world makes it okay for men to be this way, claiming its their nature. Ever wonder why Muslim parents will abandon their daughters forever if they caught them speaking to a guy but will not do anything if their son goes out and sleeps around with women? Why is that? In the Shariah, both is a sin, both are haram!
True women may be of more fitnah towards men, because women have more awrah to cover, yet they fail to, but most men are naturally in hijab, hence the reason for lesser fitnah for women.
The Polygamy allowed also speaks about helping widows or orphans, anyone who can clearly study the Quran can understand that. The Sahabah and Prophets mostly married older women who had children from other men who had died. If men want to follow the example of the Prophet, they should follow it in the way he practiced it. Wars were common, many women were left without homes or men to take care of them. Had Allah disapproved, we would suffer social issues.
There are many many many men who are happy with one wife, who dare not think about other women. Even having a thought of a non-mahram while married is a huge sin, how can one approach the thought of Polygamy knowing this is wrong? We see here the clear reasons for Polygamy. Some claim their wife is too fat or too old so they want to get another wife? It's because women are too busy with children they don't have time to even think of getting another man. Though the arab world makes it look like women have no physical desires or feelings.
The fact that society has suppressed this, is proof why they claim "Men are Polygamous by nature" I would like to see any type of proof from Islam that this is true? Men were more free to do whatever they pleased, this is the real reason, before Islam and after Islam. It's not a religious view, its a social view.
We Muslims are taught to follow the Quran and refer to sunnah and hadeeth, if men want to remarry, then why dont they read the verse on polygamy and refer to the sunnah and hadeeth? There are clear hadeeths that our Prophet pbuh the sahabah remarried older women to help them and be noble men for the sake of allah subhanwaltala, not for sexual reasons as Scholars put it these days.
Also when Hazrat Ali wanted to take a second wife for the reasons I put above, it made Hzt Fatima upset and Prophet pbuh forbade Hazrat Ali remarrying a second wife.
So if anyone can show a claim from ISLAM that men are polygamous, I would like to see. Please don't bring sciencists' claims into this, because even they claim things that go against Islam.
My dad tried to do this to my mom, but instead of Kenya/Somalia, they are from Ghana and they were legally married(divorced now). They got married, he got her pregnant, then he disappeared. He didn't think she was smart or connected, but she managed to get him placed on child support and he was arrested in the US for child abandonment and his wages were garnished. My mom moved to the US shortly after, then I came here as a child. To this day(30 years after the fact), he is still resentful that there were consequences to his actions and we have no relationship. I am his eldest but because I am a girl, I am dead to him. He has since gotten remarried and has 4 children, one of which is a boy, and he does not want anyone in his family to have a relationship with me. There is a disease of narcissism and entitlement that many African men exhibit (I understand it happens everywhere, but we are focussing on Africa right now). When our men and women start adopting some of these sociopathic tendencies, it's no wonder the continent as a whole is in such bad shape.
Paye Homage all of this is because of others (arabs and Europeans) meddling in the affairs of African people, distorting their native/original cultural practices.
@@jlynch7411 I agree. This is one of the reasons I think Polygamy in the right situations and in its pure form(the way our ancestors practiced it), can really benefit society. Not just 'secret marriages' or religious marriages, but legal marriages where the rights of all the women and children involved, are protected and recognized by governments. That could curb some of these issues. There also needs to be a system of accountability and punishment for men who do these things.
Well said, absolutely. This is why many of the male politians can steal from their own country as well. They don't value the family unit, they do not see women as human beings, and then on a larger scale it results in mass failure. Its an absolute disgrace.
A lot of people here are blaming the whites for this kind of behavior... However in my opinion somali men are using Islam as some what of a justification for their actions. They seem to think because they are men they are some how entitled to treat women like property. Im not saying this applies to all somali men but it does to these kinds of monsters.
He should of just pulled out and bailed
Arrest those fake Sheikhs and lock them up. This is unacceptable.
They are not sheikh sawa
Salaxdinomohamed Mohamed he means the ones that get them married
Kkkkkkk
What does sheikhs TO do with This Cases
@Ahmed Deq a sheikh CAN'T perform that can't conduct marriage without parents. But they are some people who name themselves as sheikhs and conduct fake marriages.
Sheikh Can't bless someone for rape Unless you can't differentiate Who is sheikh and who isn't
This is so shameful, I hope these men get the karma they deserve
Amen to that
Nomad I think they did somali men meel kasta oo qurbaha aa lagu dilooyaa.
Nomad they will be face Allah in the day of judgement. May Allah help those ladies.
Ameen
Na karma ku dishay we don't know karma in Islam. Someone also commented "amen" like whut?
Why aren’t the sheikhs being held accountable? they know whats going on surely ..
fhxs Apparently it’s ussually a man pretending to be a sheikh
Dollars$$$ my friend dollars$$$, kenya is built on corruption
Money. You can do anything if you have money.
Well you really can’t blame the sheikh ,hundreds of people come to them to officiate their Nikah and they really can’t tell their intentions since some people are actually serious about their marriage (unless it’s some type of setup with a fake sheikh for $)
Somali sheiks aren’t people to be trusted
I am happy to say there was a gofundme page for Jamila and we raised 15 thousand may she and her daughter find happiness.
Alhamdulilah may you be rewarded.I hope she can get herself on her feet inshaa'Allah.Im also worried for her chid being in that kind of environment as her mum seems so broken.
really you did amazing job thank you so much
If this really is true, then I stand up and salute you sir
@@s0b174 same
I salute you sir 👏 🙏
That female officer is doing god's work, love knowing there are still good souls in the world.
That phone was not on a call
@@Anon-f7f 😂😂
Yes...
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Hello
It's sad that Somali refugees in Europe and Western countries are taking advantage of their own people back home.
H Tastemaster yes they do it all the time so sad though
@@creativitydisplay3059 who are you to say these. Why are you opsessed with us somalese
Seekguidanceb4its2late because anba somali baan ahay wana wax laga xumaado fashilaadaha ay somalida suubiyan sida cayrta beenta ah ee badankood qataan
Seekguidanceb4its2late mida kale daqan ka xun ee hablaha u geystan ee wadankiina aad bu u badanyahay odayaasha take advantage of our woman back home
they do and that sad.because going back home they should help not abuse those who are not fortunate.is sad because now they leave those women with kids .what future to those kids .we all know how tradition can be strong in Africa when having child and ur not married . society reject u
The sheiks who perform the ceremony should be held accountable. They are playing a part in this scam. But I know this won't happen because its kenya.
Quraysh القرشي تذكر ستال يوم القيامه عن اتهامك لعشرين مليون شخص علي انهم منافقون
The only reason it won't happen is because we kenyans fear offending muslims
zsahal...instead of blaming Kenya you should be thankful of the safe haven we have offered you people, we cant police your morally corrupt men.
@Quraysh القرشي i have met Somalis here in the west who are doing better than Arabs. A lot of Arabs are far worse.
@lobsterbale 2 He or she obviously meant these so-called sheikhs
Am a young Somali girl in Kenya who is pursuing her university ..am sure one day I will assist women and try to give them a guideline on how to not fall for men easily. This cases is happening all over the world simply because of being materialistic and not thinking about what will happen after the lust is over. Pray for me to reach my goal am sure I will manage as long as God is with me.. And you will manage as long as God is with you... Stay positive and pessimistic pray to God.. Cuz he is the one who put you on that situation and am sure God won't allow sadness or sorrow on to someone who is weak as we say sorrow is just like a fruit and God won't allow it to grow on a weak branch.. Allah Hafiz
IN SHAA ALLAH Allah akujalie kumaliza masomo yako vyema ndipo uweze kuwasaidia kina dada zetu
inshAllah, you will make it Maryam.
+John Doe she won't because Mohamed (SAW) is true and he helps follow Mohamed and you won't regret
Go girl. God's blessings
+John Doe no the followers of Paul's religion the gospel of christ has destroyed many lives Starting in Europe under constantine,where the pagans,Christian heretics and jews where persecuted and terrorized by the christians who believed jesus was the son of god. and it continues till this day in Christian countries
I am from the US and my heart truly goes out to these young women and girls...
Despicable
Where do you live? Are there a lot of us Somalis there
@@Dvlly99 Their are some, I am in North Carolina
@@electriclioness4607 that’s news to me but I’m in Columbus, Ohio which is the 2nd biggest home for Somalis in the country. Sad that some of us are going back home to abuse our sisters, but most (over 95%) that go back, are doing so to find a faithful woman from their own culture.
The case of 17 years old Jamila at 8:30 made me to shade tears. The poor lady is suffering.
It made me shade a tear too.
I know 😥😥 I wish i could get a contact with her
My dear brothers and sisters we should find away of helping all of them. May b do a fundraising for them to raise capiy for all of them n find one trust worthy contact person who is going to devide the cash equally among them n make sure that they start small businesses. What do u guys think?
If Anybody knows where I can contact her, let me know please.
Abdishukry I would suggest that we find one of our Somali TH-camrs who stays in Nairobi n we do the fundraising through her to help all of these women in the documentary to start businesse. What do you guys think? I saw shukri masala a TH-camr once collecting fund for asick person in Kenyatta hospital so I think if someone approaches her she can do it. Then we all send our donations to her. What do u think. Any other solution
I hope jamila and her daughter will have beautiful life one day inshallah 😢
I hope so
War gabdhaha uceeb qari duliyohow allaha ku ceebeeyee
i wish i can find her i will help her...i have a daughter and it just brakes my heart to see her suffer like that..how can i find her
Ruweyda Ahmed th-cam.com/video/gPq6pKcwRxI/w-d-xo.html she’s doing good alhamdulillah
Sorry wlhi
This broke my heart when I was in Kenya for vacation I seen women wit there kids sleeping outside I felt so bad that I got them a hotel for a couple of days and food
You can do more help by proving things like clean water or education in poor vilages. Its cheap and long lasting.most of them leave their vilalages because of poor invironment
@@hamoudyahya7635 Go easy on him or her, they did what they were able to so SKOL well done and may the good lord bless you.
Same here! I love Kenya, but the homelessness broke my heart!
White knight dropping in on poor Africans.
@@jigmanx Nothing white knight about being a decent human being and trying to ease someone else's suffering. If everyone treated everyone else with dignity, respect and kindness as SKOL NATION outlines, then the world would be a better place for all.
The cry of any somali mother for whatever reason always breaks my my heart...they have seen it all from famine,being refugees of war and now being duped by their own heartless men..sooo sad
Yussuf Yussuf 😥😥😥😥
Very sad
Refugess because of our own heartless men too
sudanese athiest where u from in Sudan sound familiar to me
Yussuf Yussuf
Remember it’s because of their heartless men that they encountered war and refugee Up to this day
Somali men shame on you especially diaspora
May Allah punish them!!
They should be identified and arrested! I hope karma gets them! 🤬😡 inkaar ey qabaan!
Brother the women got in to an illegal marriage according to Islamic tradition a father a brother or a uncle have to allow permission for the marriage if they don't it's illegal so the women in this video none of them did this and so without the support of their family they were deceived it is there fault
@MzAyan B Because the Somali women in the West don't want them. The Somali women in the West have free education, health care and if they don't work they get support from the government. They have higher standards when it comes to men and these men who hustle poor wonen in Africa know this. I know few of them who went on holiday to Africa, got married over there, came back and never sponsored the women to get them to the West.
Bt Rec
actually these men are already married - theres a reason its called "vacation marriage", after they're done they go back to their wives. somalis call this qudbo siro aka secret marriage
My uncle has moved to Nairobi. He was my favorite uncle when I was a child. He is now 60 years old and married to 19 year olds. His daughters live in Canada. I live in America. I hate him so much for doing this.
If anyone knows how to contact Jamila the 17 year old please...connect her to me. This is inhuman and vile. Some
Of the Somali men, shame on you
zamzam mohamed yesss!!! I feel like starting a kickstarter to help out the women.
Any one interested to support Jamila, you can reach her through Deka Hassan. Deka is a local journalist and women’s advocate and was the program producer.
Her email is: deka22@yahoo.com
moha yare are you real or fake?
Marian Isse Yes! I agree with you abaayo. Anything will help her.
i think you can contact them through the through the reporter his name jamal osman on twitter/facebook.
This is sick. The fact that a family's so-called "honor" is dictated by a woman's virginity, rather than the actions of the men taking advantage of these women, is totally backwards. These men need to be held accountable for their actions and that's it. And this comments section really shows how sexism and misogyny are still thriving. Shameful.
Yes but we can support them. I know a lot of Somalian women and women from many Muslim backgrounds and they really look up to us british women in terms of all the things we can do and how strong we are. Working home gym relationship kids and we manage to
Do it ❤️
the last woman at 6:02,i know her she once came to my place of attachment to report this kind of issue..i really felt her pain when she narrated her story even though her swahili was poor .she told me how she came to kenya as a refuge and all troubles she faced, then adding salt to the wounds a somali man did this to her and ruined her life.the man appeared years later to try to take the children away from her and until today he threatens her and harrasses her at her place of business in eastleigh .she told me that she hates somali men and would not marry again and would wish somali girls(kenyan and somalian) to be educated,informed and empowered mostly on issues regarding marriage,culture and religion.now she lives in this neighbourhood with few somalis together with her four children and she loves it cause she says it gives her freedom and independence.i ended up liking her and today we still talk on the phone .........
Let me follow your logic one Somali man harms her so she hates all Somali men? That sounds like a radical feminist to me. Tell her good luck riding the carousel
Crazy what somali men did to her
The story of 17-year-old Jamila is so heartbreaking. These men will have to answer to Allah SWT!
Atheist???
sudanese athiest do you have your language then apart from Arabic?🤔
sudanese athiest ..but most of you know Arabic as the only language. I was surprised and asked myself "Didn't they have another language before?"
sudanese athiest but all the things in your government is arabic. It's too late to change a thing about that. ..and majority are arab-speakers!!!
@sudanese athiest you wanna use and ditch her?
My blood boils to see how these young women are being taken advantage of. I'm also seething at just how much people keep saying, "they will deal with Allah." We need to stop blindly putting everything to DEEN and fix our internal issues. Our culture is sexist and this needs to be addressed ASAP. We need to put 100% of the blame on the men, not on these young women that are raised in poverty and are trying to find a better life.
Edit: Diaspora Somali's... Please do not send money to Somali regions to build more "Dugsi." What does memorizing the Quran in Arabic do for these children when they do not even speak or understand Arabic to begin with? Send money to build schools for young children so that they can have a future. Send money to fund businesses, to invest, etc. If you send money to build/fund dugsi then you are a part of the problem.
jamzilla6
islam is part and parcel of being a somali, you need to keep your europhile self in Europe or whatever western country you reside in ,no somali will accept you.
jamzilla6 what about the somali cougar women majority from the uk who takes advantage of the young educated local men in somalia and then never bring them to europe??
U want to scream wolf do it proper because actually the problem goes both ways
@Micheal Dapaah I wasn't aware that men could be impregnated
Feminist much 🤦♀️
jamzilla6 these people are not somali...i always see them dividing somali people or claiming our country..
I have experienced this from a man who moved from the west and has a business here. He told me that he will give me the world, take me places, rent and furnish a house for me but i have to first get married to him without telling my parents and I'm grateful i was able to discern that his intentions were not pure and refused to accept his proposal. Somali men tend to want to take advantage of young girls and women who are looking to change their lives and it's sad. I hope I'm able to contribute in anyway i can into enlightening our girls and women so that their lives don't turn out to be miserable. I share my experiences on my TH-cam channel in the hopes of uplifting, inspiring and empowering our girls and women. I pray for these women to find peace and better lives. Amen
This boils my blood and breaks my heart at the same time. Shame on Somali men, shame on us all!
Khadar Mariano What a white knight
Shut up shame on you. Self hater. It is a minority you pig do not name Somalia as bad people.
Like you wouldn't do that too
@@Secularism25 not everyone has dark heart like you
@@Secularism25 stop
As a Somali young man (20) my whole life I never disrespected my mother, sister and all somali women. They are our strenght, our queens and our beautiful people. As a somali this really hurt me to the core, seeing a haboo or walashey from another mother cry is very saddening and painful, Somali men when will you stop hurting our beautiful women, when will you be real men, when will you guide our somali youth, build our country up again and be leaders, fight for peace and happiness. To all my somali momas and sisters I am deeply sorry, may ASW forgive them.
ANBU KAREEM XC atheykuutaasha braather
Anas Ahmed not your brother haha
I have also gotten engaged twice but in Somalia neither female got pregnant and for each of them our time just ended for the fear of God I don’t know if I could ever play with a womans soul like that.
Your message is full of love and respect.
Walaahi my brother it is so painful
Very heartbreaking. It’s time we help our Somali sisters
I wish I could in contact with that young lady. If anyone know her or is based in Eastleigh please post a way to contact that lady so I could support her. And these men should be hunted down and legal proceedings be brought to them in their countries of residence. Name and shame these bastards and if I met them in person I’d give them more than that wallahi. These low lives who ain’t good for nothing are shaming our name as Somali men
Abukar Dahir
www.gofundme.com/justice4jamila
Abukar Dahir i think there are contact info on that page,
This is not a new issue. It has been going on for as long as Somalis have lived outside the country. This is done by all types of Somali men; young and old, wealthy and poor, those in West and those living in the East, and those from all the different tribes and clans. We all know someone who has gone back to Somalia and married a young woman (sometimes under age or inappropriately young), whilst having another family in the city they live in. They are our brothers, fathers, uncles, cousins, grandfathers and sometimes our husbands. What do we do about these men? Nothing. While we continue to welcome these men back into our families, they will not change. We need to shame them in public. If they have no other shame, they need to feel scared about losing their families, being shunned from their communities. Otherwise there will be many more Jamilas in this world.
What can the Somali community do and what can others who are concerned do?
I have done my part to expose some of the sick men in our community plz give me their full names, phone numbers I promise I'll make sure they pay heavy price. One time I reported this fake sheikh relative of mine who abused innocent child he used her and abandoned and left her for nothing smh once I heard about it I reported to the local police and called his workplace and spoke to his supervisor that he was pedophile luckily, he got fired and was facing series case of sexual exploitation for a minor. I'll do my best to expose, shame and post all their pics, names, where they live, where they work, and what they have done to innocent Somali girls. We need to call out all the rapist, pervert, pedo and child molester scumbags
Amina that is not the issue marriage under age you are right with that but sister this one is those who sleeping their somalian sister and when a baby come that is when that mother and her baby is on your shoulder. the issue under marrage is another problem but this is more dangreos.
I don't know how you believe this kind this guy he went dhilo guuryahod they looking for westren passport they most force to man I saw my own eyes cayda kadaa waa abaah iyo walaalka
@@professionalhacker2834 how can i contact you?
May God curse them in this dunia and the hereafter for lying to these women.
I agree
AMEEN!
God there is no god and mohamed is the role model of this guys they Copy Mohamed life style child woman abuse.
@@mojimjames7263 Each to their own beliefs and you're entitled to your opinions Mr Abeed, Adoon, Barya!
@Al Barbarī they can’t, that’s why they resort to lying about our religion
Shame on the Somali men who took advantage of this girls. This has been happening for a while am glad they are shedding light on this. Raga somaliyeed Allah o waxan samaynaya kabaqa malin lais xisaabinayo aya jirta, teda kale miyedan kabaqayn gabdhihina in laga jaro ta gabdhaha masakinta kusamayneysan.
Fatima the girls are stupid for accepting secret marriages to strangers they never met.
@@camey2754 don't blame the victim as a man wlh wadankii iyo dadkiiba nin somaliyeed ba dumiyay it pains me wlh gabdhihii somaliyeed ban xumaynay , hoyadii , ilmihii it is sad
Game Account you said it all sister/brother.
lesson: don't leave your family for damn stranger
I believe it's poverty that drives them into these unfortunate situations. May God have mercy on them.
Game Account 🖕🖕🖕🖕
Somali men are not all the same and i don't like my sisters to be treated in such way may God protect us
Amiin🤲🏻 thank u brother ❤️
Christian Prince is good 😊 watch in youtube im ex muslim from Saudi Arabia
Abdi Basr I am sure you will be interested 🤗
@@makamukijedda6392 no he won't
@@makamukijedda6392 Christian prince sits behind a screen. Watch sheikh uthman conversation with sam and david wood. One message foundation on youtube.
I feel terribly hurt my ex partner from this background did that to several young girls and abandon his son in London. I have suffered fie 10 solid years and he lately when he decided to come back and behave like a victim taking me to court and lying his teeth down. This man are just so disgusting.
I do apologize of a shameful act that some of Somali men are doing to their own Somali sister.
“their own Somali sister” I understand your message but you’re making it sound like we’re inbreds
Well being sorry won’t bring someone to alive...
The concept of an old rich man marrying a young poor girl is seen in every single society across the globe. Every single one. Rich old Arab, African, Indian, White men go back home (or in the case of the white man, Asia) and marry poor young women and abuse them. This is not unique to the Somali community.
@suri m ,
When you’re reading a post from a Somali girl talking about Somali men, it’s quite easy to mistake yourself that you’re reading a post from an EDL or BNP member….the strongest women in the world! We usually see the white man using racial stereotypes to describe the black men ‘they don’t work, they’re lazy and sleep during the day and deceitful with women’ that’s how white men describe black men…black women calling their men lazy criminals is something I’ve never seen in my life, they understand fully the position in society that their men are in and the struggles they face. The Somali girl doesn’t even understand that their people faces a WAR, and seen dead bodies, and had to leave all of their possessions and dreams behind, and had to take lower jobs like taxi drivers and warehouse workers in hopes that they’re children could create a middle class…what they didn’t realise is how strong Somali girls are and the society they’ve created as first generation Somali girls in the west, is one of self hate…because they’re strong.
I can see in jamila face that she is very hurt and heart broken. I'm so sorry my dear sister! If jamila husband sees this please take care of your responsibility and take care of your child, you deadbeat!!
Nacima
Runtad way wallahi.
I M REALLY FILLING SHAMEFUL FOR WAT SOMALI MEN DOING WITH OUR QUEENS.
YOUR INDIAN BROTHER.
ISXAQ MUXAMMAD ISXAQ.
DAR ES SALAAM
TANZANIA
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@@ishaqmuhammadsonara115 lol you are an Indian? How? And you know Somali?? I'm dead!
Yes
I was in Somalia .
I left Somalia in 1991.
I was in xamarweyn.
MOGADISHU.
I HAD GOLD BUSINESS THERE.
NOW I M SETTLED IN TANZANIA.
I was in Somalia .
I left Somalia in 1991.
I was in xamarweyn.
MOGADISHU.
I HAD GOLD BUSINESS THERE.
NOW I M SETTLED IN TANZANIA
@@ishaqmuhammadsonara115 so are you Indian or somalian? I've been to TZ before and it's a beautiful country that I would love to go back in the future. It's so hard for me to believe that your Indian n know the somalian language
Being a virgin doesn’t give you dignity and honor maybe it’s a system that is messed up that needs to be changed. A woman’s worth is not her body or sexuality. She is worth much more than just this.This happens in Pakistan and India and many other countries maybe it’s the men that need to stop exploiting women and as a society we need to teach them this is WRONG and maybe we should stop blaming victims. Men with this mentality exploit women that are not of their country what makes us think they won’t exploit their own sisters. Look now they are it’s a sick game of power and dominance.This is an epidemic. My heart goes out to these women and all women of the world suffering from sexual exploitation.
Apologise To All Queens Of Somali To All Foolish Men's Must Stop This Thing Wlhi is Not Something Good Somali queen's Are You Sisters Mother's ND Daughters Also Please Men's Stop This Behavior Thanks
Shaviano Tube Bruv you are a MAN.most of the comment they blame the west or the sisters still I am not from Somlia.👍🏽
Thank you so much for saying that, coming from man who care women may Allah bless you , and you God my subscrition today/
Shaviano Tube queens? Stop calling people Queens when they aren’t. Women and girls, yes. Queens, no.
Jess.. Our Beautiful Girls Are Queen Of The Queens You Can Said What Ever You Want But My Side Are Queens Our Beautiful Somali Girls My Allah Bless Them
Shaviano Tube They hoes!
Africa has huge prostitution problem. "Black Queens" are for sale.
Shame on the Men who did that, I pray God to punish them
Old Man in the Sky ?
It's your god bullshit got them into this in the first place!!
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@@creativitydisplay3059 I'm his fan
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Bless that female police chief she is doing gods work.
She is just going against islam... for what the men are doing is allowed its called murta marriage
@@theman8070 It was narrated from ‘Ali (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade mut’ah marriage and the meat of domestic donkeys at the time of Khaybar. According to another report, he forbade mut’ah marriage at the time of Khaybar and he forbade the meat of tame donkeys.
Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 3979; Muslim, 1407.
@@miski51 just that and u believe this hadith.... my question is did thr shahabas did it even after the death of the their prophet???😂😂😂
@@theman8070 So I slam is such a retrogressive religion? Why would anyone even be a Muslim then?
@@theman8070this is a Shia thing and even if it’s permitted, it’s not allowed for the husband to abandon the wife in poverty and with her child. Get over this nonsense
I'm a father, brother, son and a husband and I'm sure every man on the earth is in the category of one of those if not all. I cannot tolerate the least of harms to happen to any of my female relatives and to those innocent girls who put their trust and love around your neck. I believe that a real man or a noble man would not act like that. This film really broke my heart and I'm shaking at this moment. I don't know what more I could say to those ignorant men other than don't do to an innocent girl what you wouldn't like to be done to your daughter, sister and mother.
I couldn't even finish the video when that 17 year old girl started speaking. Brought tears to my eyes. Sad to see these things happening in Kenya but records of these men should exist somewhere, they should be tracked down and punished.
These are the Jobless somali uncles in the cafes of london. I say this as a somali myself. This seems to be a persistent issue with somali men in our culture who go back home"for "business reasons" apparently but we all know its to fufill their lust by getting a temporary marriage with a young woman.
As a Somali man I am extremely disappointed in us this is the first I’m hearing of this because I live in the USA
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This makes me so sad. I pray to Allah swt that these men will NEVER experience a second of peace in their life ever again and will be punished in the most severe way in the hereafter. I truly wish them the worst of the worst. But Allah swt is just and they will get what's coming to them. It's a matter of time.
To the Somali women and also the good men out there, such as the man who made this documentary, thank you for all your work and keep going! For evey girl we save, our country will be the better for it. Inshallah one day, we will reap the fruits of our labour and have a more united and happier nation.
I’m not even a Somali and I want to apologize, as a muslim and a man, to all my Somali sisters for these horrible men that I can’t call even call men. I’m having a hard time seeing them as muslims, but it is what it is. They’re a disgrace. I hope my sisters think carefully next time and choose their husbands wisely. You do not have to be ashamed sisters, you did nothing wrong. May Allah protect you and your family and guide you to everything that is right. Just keep the duaa going. Love and respect!
They are indeed a disgrace to all Somali, all muslims, all males, to all humans; regardless origin or belief
Why you apologizing dude.. FOH. You apologizing for something you didn’t do or cause. Pray for them and keep it moving
@@SheedLordBear He says he wants to, he does not say he has to. Evidently he doesn't have to. So maybe better question: Why don't you understand that there are men who really do want to be a part of the solution? ...
Because there are men love that in countries like Somalia there are still women that can be abused in this way and can get away with it. In the Uk they couldn’t. I often hear men talking about having a wife and saying they will get her in Somalia or Pakistan cos they still find subservient women there. It’s all wrong ! Weak men feel powerful by abusing women that’s what I have noticed throughout my life. So wrong !
That’s why they have to ask for heavy dowry
This is so painful.
On behalf of Somalia men I'm very sorry watching the video broke me down. If you do wrong to girl remember you also have a sister to
I wish the western govts will help trace this men and force them to take care of the problem they ve caused..in western world if a man abandons his children the govt will intervene and deduct from the mans salary the childs upkeep whether he likes it or not...i hope they will do the same here..it can be done if kenyan govt and the west coperate on the issue..
Yussuf Muhamud true walahi, track them down and arrest!
Even if they are traced down..its impossible for western governments to make these guys responsible for their actions. This has been happening in India for years...now it's the somalis turn...the only thing that can be done is if they go back to kenya to have then arrested and charged
you are totally right especially the ogaden tribe the homosexual people
Yussuf Muhamud western govr??? white???? how much longer are going to beg them????
Yussuf Muhamud yess very soon inshAllah we should make them pay
These men will never see the gates of heaven.
As a somali am just now crying coz of the pain our somali QUEENS are going through and i HATE those doing that i would have jailed them for 15 years
Subhanallah May allah guide us all.
This Practice has to stop and we can’t let our sisters suffer. Imagine if that was you’r sister what would you do ?
We all have sisters i wouldn’t want my sister to be a victim of this practice. I’m so disappointed and outraged.
Reporter Jamal you’ve highlighted a huge problem that causing a lot of pain and distress within our community . I applaud you for the great work.
I hope that the father of Jamila's child watches this video.
He needs to be named and shamed and sent to jail, asap!
y90_ xx prolly he is hiding somewhere. If he is alive, how can he leave his child alone?😳 Sad world😫
Someone needs to advise her to go to the u.s. embassy and tell the father's name, possibly get support, and even say he abandoned her..he might get deported
Same is occurring in India as well...spcly in punjab.. They come back from west.. Marry.. Take huge dowries nd leave with the money back to their countries... Nd leave the brides.
Nd the worst part is people sell their land property to afford the marriage nd dowry..
Am not muslim neither Christian n am in tears for this women
If you get the full name of the person and date of birth we can a-shame the exploiter and bring them to justice where possible. I am really disgusted by the men who use and abuse the world.
They need to be extradited back to Kenya so they can be arrested.
All marriage should be documented at the embassy of the groom. So if a Somali man came from the UK and wants to marry a girl in Kenya, then the UK embassy must be notified and issues a marriage certificate. This way the bride can have the right for a Visa to the UK !
Soon the grooms will stop playing around
I think this is best too
Please how can I get in contact with these women. My heart is in pain knowing they are going through this hardship. Where is humanity? The day will come for these men who have abused these innocent ladies but in the meantime please lets help our sisters in Islam.💔
I am from afghanistan i love you all Somalia Sisters May Allah help you and Allah punish these Baster guys Amin soma Amin 😑 I have Somalia friends and we see each other every days and talk and meet them , they are so cute and very honest people , but I didn't understand why some of them is disrespecting for their beautiful women !!!! 😡 be Ashame and fear of Allah wooo the friends of Devils do not disrespect another women someone will disrespect your sister or Daughter Or Mom 😡
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This is so EVIL! I know this is an old news story. However, does anyone know how to reach these sisters? I'd really like to help them. This makes me so angry!
This true 100% Somali men from western many women cry from them they're layers foolish 😤😤😤shame on u guys thanks for this reporter's
a decent somali MAN is the reporter he cared enough to report on it, SO IT'S ALL SOMALI men, it's good vs evil.
asalam alaykum you can't not label all somali mans to the bad ones Im educated living in the west enjoying my single life I ain't bad or in that group girls should take responsibility too for marrying them everyone in this life has a choice who they want to marry you can't label all man for this
asalam alaykum plus this happens in other Muslims community as well as a man I feel bad and sad for the woman who experiencing but people should take responsibility
asalam alaykum . Gold Digger s
asalam alaykum most guys I know are in university working hard non of them ain't married for you to label all is bad what i don't get is why girls don't take responsibility for who ever they are dating or marrying use your mindset don't be fooled then moan later on this also happens in other Muslims community they working together why can't we do the same instead of talking like this while non somali only to laugh at us fighting each other
they look down on local men who are the same social status as them and try to marry a passport, when hypergamy goes wrong.
well said
A majority of Somali Kenyans marry Somali Kenyans ya dunce!
Basics most of them are the same either from Africa or elsewhere 😩
umeyma omar They get tricked by WESTERN Somali men. They see passport so they run to them without question. Without talking to their families.
Right but we can’t blame them. I knew some girl. She got family and everything. And their was a guy who couldn’t let her rest he could tell everything that he loves her and he is ready to meet her family and everything. He was so convincing. So she said let me give it a try and that man was coming to UK to meet up his wife which he never met before. But was hoping at the same time to hookup with this girl. But she found out and just left him. So some Somali men are crazy. And the other hand somali girls believe something which is very wrong to put men first. They never ask about what they want or put their feelings first. Men is the most important thing for them. They always thing and wait some guy will come and change their life to be better. But most of this men are here to make sure to make it even worse. So I could advise them that they can do everything they want and make the dream come true. With or with out a man. And they can say NO, they have a choice. And if the first or second or even third is not the right one, they should wait. Because no matter what someone is out there. Who will appreciate and honour them.👋🏼
Its so shameful. I don't feel comfortable when i see our young sisters suffering due to being mistreated by their husbands. Women should be respected and aman should know the value of a woman.
yes it is shameful, these women want to use men to get a western lifestyle.
First and foremost a woman should be educated. Education is an achievement MARRIAGE IS NOT.
@@ruijackson7697they are in extreme poverty you would want the same it doesn’t make you a bad person
@@angelladavis2250 you are living in a western world that’s why you are saying that , say that when you are living a dollar a day that .
Notice how Somaliya had a cultural regression after the war. If stuff doesn't happen Somalia will be permanently ruined
Exactly bro. The quicker we unify the quicker we are to stop the disintegration of our entire nation. Walahi every year that passes is a year where our Ethnic Identity itself is being lost. Because a lot of Somalis here in the Diaspora are even forgetting their mother tongue, and are starting to identify as Black as a substitute for identity rather than embracing their own Ethnic Identity and Culture, every day I stress about the future of our people, wallahi I wish I knew what to do.......
@Quraysh القرشي Your out of touch. Mogadishu has always been Somali, Yemenis and Omanis only came to Mogadishu because of trade same goes for many other groups.
Trying to rewrite history is a pathetic attempt, your just another revisionist that can't come to terms with the truth.
@Quraysh القرشي Your literally in every video, spouting the same nonsense how about you do something that's not so meaningless and delusional
1. Hawiye and Darod have not only been occupying those places they have been INHABITING those places, for generations on end. Since ancient times the ancestors of Somalis have lived in the Somali Peninsula and have lived where Mogadishu is now.
2. The coast is not just Arab Benediri idiot, it is incredibly mixed. Somalis from all sorts of clans have lived in Mogadishu, historically it has been MAINLY Hawiye and Darod, Arab Xamaris are only a recent inclusion, and they came from Yemen and Oman because of trade relations with Somalis, and later on settled in Xamar (Mogadishu) and the south-eastern coast after they were assimilated and accepted by our people.
STOP TRYING TO BE A REVISIONIST
Ali Hussein ..if you are stating that you are not black..then what race are somalians? Even your Middle East Arab brothers classify you as black Africans...
It's unfortunate that this is happening to women who can hardly defend themselves. What makes it even harder to control is that, there is nothing like "vacation marriage" in legal terms. This is considered as domestic dispute with a lot of twists and turns to it. But I fully applaud chief Jawahir for doing such a wonderful dispute resolution in the heart of Eastleigh. And I can say this about her because I have been to Nairobi lately (on and off) for the past few years and it's then that I realized the importance and value of this chief in the heart of Eastleigh community
So glad this issue is being highlighted thanks channel 4.
how can we help Jamila ?
A first step might be to reach out to the reporter to find out if there are any local organizations that are working on behalf of women who share Jamila's fate.
She needs all the help she can get. That’s why she agreed to show her face on camera. A good Somali man could step up to the plate and make her a happy wife. That’s a good start.
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@@Pimpishone gtf outta here u scammer
Visit the Chief in Eastleigh, Nairobi.
She can go to the American embassy and tell them that the father abandoned her and they can possibly start the process of getting support and even many more resources.
Yeah but that works perfectly if the Lady lived in the states .USA Embassy here isnt responsible for child Support issues.
I read somewhere that UK recently passed a law which makes British citizens/residents who engage in acts abroad that would be a crime liable in British courts. I don't know how much of that would apply to these harrowing stories, but that might be a way forward.
It is a shame for our humanity
It is absolutely sad story. These men lack integrity and manhood. It is shame to hear that Somali men are exploiting young beautiful girls. On other hand Somali ladies trust in themselves and refrain from thinking about marrying men from west. They should pay close attention to whom they are sharing the life with regardless of his money or material.
It breaks my heart to see such pain in these women and the things they have to endure
Hello !!am in Kenya!I want to help Jamila.How can I reach her ?That girl has so much potential !I wish men could see! Am not a Somali man,but she's human and through proper nurturing and support this girl can take the world as her own.She doesn't deserve this.No one does.I don't care how many men she has slept with.I have seen great potential in her and I am going to help reach her fullest potential.You guys have an email I can communicate with you guys .Jamila deserves the best.
MAPESA EDGAR if you do find her let me know as well would love to help.
@@Dj12340987 i will sure tell you
Hi, could you please let us know about her contact, she really touched my heart.
@@maxgray7816 i will inform you.I haven't gone to look for her yet.Am getting my finances right to be able to get her to school and support her kid.
MAPESA EDGAR god bless you
My heart broke, especially in the case of jamila, may Allah grant her the best life that one can wish for, in this world and the hereafter Aamiin.
The police officer did not call no one 😂🤣
A Badman I know right she didn’t looooool
Lupin the 3rd was saying same thing. 😂
I was looking for this comment, I was thinking the same thing we can see you lol..
Oh yeah..called nobody
She has an android. It looks like that when you’re calling someone and you accidentally press something.
Shame on these kind of men who take advantage of our sisters.Don't ever think this to happen to your sister.plz men own your manhoodness and fear Allah.
May Allah help our fellow sisters who are being exploited in this way. Utterly shambolic..
Walaalo Somali men are not degenerates, in every group there are bad apples. Please don't say such things. I will always respect and admire my fellow Somali counterparts.
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What kind of self-hate is that man? just because a few idiots decide to do this you want to label us all? niin raag iska diig man and stop this self wallowing. There are good Somali men out there and and bad ones too just like of any creed.
Lukaku - I really haven't met any Somali brothers who have hurt me or at the least, I hated. Maybe I'm just really lucky!
And I agree with Dusty - we can't base a majority on a few bad apples!
Muna .A Somali women are queens and don't deserve this Wallahi. My whole life is dedicated in making my queens happy and empowering them to be self sufficient. I want to see educated, power and financial independent Somali women. Somali women are agents of political change and promotors of peace and security. The prophet Muhammad(saw) said respect and live with your women honourably. I apologise to all my queens Wallahi.
I was Nairobi Kenya, and one day I was visiting Jawahir office. And the first thing I saw she was beating man inside her office. This lady is not a joke.
The problem is that we try to be way much holy than others and finding evil acts within us after all
Thumps up if u have noticed that the local police chief makes a fake phone call to one of the so-called perpetrator. 1.00 to 1:40.
The police women chief should be sacked immediately, it was clear the call she was making was fake. She never addressed him with his full name but instead she unprofessionally yelled the victims full name. My blood boiled when I what was happening at this police station. Sock !
Amin A. Mohamed ...lol this chief is a joke walahi and she got the guts to tell her wait he is coming... Nkt
she is area chief not police chief.she has no real power
Hhhh true
Amin A. Mohamed Hhhh true
This is very sad :( I´m a Somali man, i´m shocked :( Somali women are so beautiful, i hope these men will be punished for their actions!
Somalian women are very beautiful. Black is beautiful.
We are not black we are somalian
No one is white no one is black we are equal and beautiful
@@mohaahmed703 really 😳😳😳
the whiter and paler the skin, the more attractive
@@genericwhitemale6089 Stupid comment. People of darker skin is beautiful. Just because someone is fairer does not make them more attractive.
The whole problem came from poverty ...ignorans ...and the stricet culture rules who lead these women to this fate . But the depressing truth is that the somalian guys from diaspora are taking advantge over the poor snd needy girls , this is so shamfull . And its not just happen to somali girls in kenya only but also to those in saudi also i sow some tragic event like that 😟😐
Quraysh القرشي It is two sided fault , the women also are playing a role in this problem no one will deny that BUT as i said ignorans and poverty are limiting thair chance to have a good qaulity and honourable life , and make them to take that kind of choice .
Regarding KSA , this things happen among somali society over thair , and no one complain or say any thing to the local authority , at lest in kenya they report about these situations .
Filsan Abdi just
Yeah because cultureless whites don't do this lol This is a problem for all rich men. They go to poorer countries and take advantage of the girls/guys.
Fake Somali alert 🚨 she said 'Somalian'
Quraysh القرشي arab qadhmuun naga dgaxbax
l pray that our girls learn how to be independent and never to compromise their dignity ...am a university student but l chose to stay away from immorality as its the mother to all other problems.... May God protect us... Amen
I know one of these womens. As I awere she suffered a lot. She got married by non diaspora Somali man at Eastliegh, who abandoned her in the middle of no where. She got pregnany and after months twins arrived!. In Nairobi, life is very expensive imagine having two twins with someone no support😥. I'm still worry about how her life going through.
My smartphone usually goes dark when I start a call...
And Somali have the audacity to insult blacks on social media
They're more brutal to each other than black ppl are
It’s very sad 😔 but not all Somali boys are like this.
Amal Qalanjo Ali yes they are. I know for fact all Somali men including my father and my brother did the same
No one's saying that, "all Somali boys are like this." And you saying they aren't doesn't help the issue at all. The Somali men who do this are at fault and should be held accountable. That's it.
Mona Al I think girls should take responsibility for they action this not just somali problems it also happen to other Muslims community what I hate about our community we bring each other down instead of working things together just like other communities
Anna even doe I feel so angry but no one has the right to label other for one guy problem this also happens in other Muslims community as well they working together for better why our community do the same instead of bring each other down while others laugh at us shameful waliahi
I am only 16 😂and damnn I have to be careful but no hate for Somali boys 👍
From the onset such marriages are based on deceit.Both parties never do it in good faith so it's not surprising.The women too are not angels
As an Ethiopian male my heart broken when I see the suffering of young refugee who could be my sisters. Let's stop the talk & walk the walk & focus on two major solutions. 1) All abusers should be reported to the US/EU embassies in Nairobi so that justice will be served slowly but surely. 2) The Somali community in the west eg. in London & Minnesota should launch a gofundme account with great transparency & accountability to raise money & support the victims. I will be one of the contributors. Thanks
Ethiopians do the same bro
You want to support women for their bad decision making. These women get married behind their parents back. This is zina. I have zero compassion for these women. I travel often if women are under the illusion I will come to rescue them it is their own stupidity. I saw firsthand visiting Kenya women meeting men without the supervision of their father or male relatives. To be frank Muslim women want to operate like modern western women. They don’t seem to understand operating like a modern woman has real world consequences. These women aren’t children. They should have chosen better. Women always want to play the victim pretend they were duped.
It's sounds so weird!! That their own men do it to them!!
They 've been fucked up in the civil war they are not mentally stable all of them no sane man would do this wait Egyptian men do that to their girls marry them without documents then deny the marriage and disown their children!! I guess it's the African men mentality
Strangely people are usually cruelest to their own kind...I don't know why or have an explanation
Same things really happened in Ethiopia Kenya/ Nigeria
@@midnimochannel3665 it’s not common in Ethiopia we don’t have diasporas going back for 2nd/secret marriage but there is prostitution but the girls chose to do it themselves
It's shamefull thing that somali Men are doing this bad things to our beloved sisters. Illahey narta haku fogeeyo qofki gabar Soomaaliyed ku cayaaro. Nacala idin kuyaalo.
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@@omarbihi9957 waxa xun xun inay fhamadan wey fican tahay
Malipo ni hapa hapa duniani tu😥😥they'll feel it too one day
This is what happens when you destroy you nation, criminals will have power and will take advantage of the weak link...any country that has civil war goes thru bad and negative outcome. Let's build somalia and support our government. Dont fight with emotion but let's use our mind.
Samir Noor somalia will never be peace home of blood and shame
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M A FARMAAJO ASK AS TO REBUILD OUR NATIONAL SOMALI ARMY
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@@somalihome3438 is cool, nothing is easy in the world, every country went thru it.
@Quraysh القرشي You are every where, commenting same all b.s
Never wished bad things upon people but may Allah give them the punishment they deserve.....
dont feel shame if a man did this to you. what did you do wrong? falling in love? that is nothing to be ashamed of and should not result in harming some nonsense pride in a family name
Our girls don’t deserve this ffs I’m crying from deep deep down of my heart ❤️
@Top G what😃😃😃😃!!!
Why can't C4 News do a proper investigation and track down the Somali men that are doing these things?
I will never forgive Islam for what it has done to my people
Yea, because this is a totally Islamic thing to do right? People really be lacking brains these days.
@@mukalal2160 your right it’s complicated.
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Fatimah Conteh it has been made all ready
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