Air To Air Missiles In War Thunder : The Complete Guide (Outdated)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ส.ค. 2024
- This complete guide to air to air missiles in War Thunder goes over basic missile concepts, guidance types, keybinds, and how to use them in the game. The idea is to take an absolute beginner and get them a basic level of competence in operating these weapons. Information and UI is current as of the "Danger Zone" update in June 2022 which added the F-14 and Active Radar missiles.
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Mig-25 line art by Kaboldy, Used under Creative Commons
Uncaged IR Seeker clip by M. Begenat, Used under Creative Commons
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Intro And Keybinds
01:39 Types Of Missiles
03:29 Reading A Missile Stat Card
05:03 Range And Energy
06:57 MCLOS Manual Command Line Of Sight Missiles
08:20 SACLOS Beam Riding Missiles
09:47 Caged-Seeker IR Guided Missiles
11:32 Uncaged-Seeker IR Guided Missiles
14:06 SARH Semi Active Radar Homing Missiles
17:04 ARH Active Radar Homing (Plus IOG and DL)
22:18 Weapon Selection And Cycling
22:56 Missing Advanced Features, Closing Minutia - เกม
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Updated version of this guide:
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You know your guide is top tier when the snail 🐌 copies your OG one pretty much point for point. *Slow clap Good Sir
Yeah ...."no comment" .... I half expect they'll publish a missile guide within the next few weeks ...
I didnt see gaijin's guide, may i get a link? i'd like to see myself how copied it is lel
@@colonelkurtz5397 Just search war thunder radar bootcamp
they posted it on their youtube channel
@@harrymack3565 Alright, thanks!
TLDR: The missile knows where it is, because it knows where it isn't. Great video Tim, keep it up!
Because it knows where it needs to be
By subtracting where it is, from where it isn't.
@@johnroscoe2406 it uses deviation to drive to missile to where it’s suppose to be
I fucking love the missile meme! Never fails to make me chuckle when a missile missbehaves or hits a target who I thought it wouldn't. "Your missile really knew where it is" was my favorit reply when a F14 was hit by a BVR 24R
What the fuck did you just say about the missile? I'll let you know the missile knows where it is at all time
It was a smart move to use the Shafrir for the caged seeker example instead of the Aim-9, because that way a new player can remember the difference instead of getting Aim-9b and AIm-9p confused because those sound really similar, despite their vast performance differences
My thoughts exactly.
@@TimsVarietyI was wondering what you think about anti radiation missiles
I want to see my thunderchief firing shrikes and gaijin still has yet to add them
@@0Ploxx Supposedly there was a 3d model of an ARM in a recent datamine, so ... "soon" maybe? .. we'll see.
What’s the difference?
@finleybodle6360 The AIM-9P is a short-range missile with a good G-Overload
The AIM-9B is the first missile most players get and is regarded as one of the worst misses in the game
9:35 fun fact, the Swift F7 can use its radar gun sight to guide the beam missile, when in range the sight will auto-lock the first proper target (be careful with allies in the sight), i.e. the Firestreak will auto-track the target thats in the locked cone.
So - funny you mention that.
Its a longer topic, but I have confirmation there are multiple open bug reports regarding the behavior of the Firestreak. Sometimes having the radar range-finder on will count as a "lock" on the missile itself, and send it flying off in a random direction, sometimes it seems to do nothing, and sometimes it behaves as you mentioned and makes aiming almost trivial.
Since the in-game functionality doesn't seem to be consistent, and I didn't want to sit on this vid for a month or two while the devs sort it out, I decided to mention the **intended** functionality.
It's worth noting that even air to ground ARMs have occasionally been used as air to air weapons (although the first example that comes to mind was actually an accident/blue on blue incident)
The F-15 killing a helicopter with a laser guided bomb comes to mind
@@jameson1239 pretty sure you can already do that in ground RB. The incident I was thinking of was the time a group of Hornets were flying SEAD for some B-52s, and one of their HARMs decided to go after the radar rangefinder on one of the BUFF's tailguns.
I've been playing this game for 2 years, and this has got to be the best missle guide I've ever seen! I'll definitely recommend this video to friends!
I just recently started playing Warthunder and had just now gotten a jet with missiles. I must say I had not a single clue how to use them, and I hated it like a lot... After watching this im 1000% comfortable using missiles! Thanks this helped a ton!
I had a game in the swift f7 where i got back to back head on kills with the fire flash. Definitely one of the most satisfying yet frustrating weapons to use
When it works - its awesome.
When it flops ... it flops ...
My man even explained to us how the missile knows where it is
im not sure if you know this tim but you kindof have a legacy starting in the wt community because ive seen alot of people starting yt channels and making content that is even by their own words heavilly inspired by your videos and takes the same kind of format. ive mever seen a smsller channel have as big of an impact as yours. nice job man!
Love to hear it :-)
@@TimsVariety actually seeing you recommended on reddit as an excellent guide maker more often as well. Love to see it
I’ve been playing the game for years and have top tier in many factions, yet I always come back to these videos out of pure interest and the fact that I can always learn new information
I admire your dedication to the WT community
o7
Gotta deliver for my subscribers.
For the 2nd flight phase of a ARH missile i have heard it has been referred as "Pitbull" that is when the missile turns on it's internal radar and hunts down it's prey that way, so it no longer needs the aircraft radar to guide it.
Absolutely Well thought out guide mate, appreciate the absolute quality you put in these videos.
Even as an experienced player is nice having this amount of information easily delivered.
Automatic Like as always.
I agree
The fact you managed to hit a MiG-17 with a manual guided missile is insane.
... it took me some time to get footage of a dogfight kill with the nord (as opposed to a head-on unguided shot) .. I'll just leave it at that.
@@TimsVariety Did you have help from a friend to steer the missile while you fly?
13:40 best part of the entire video, I can't believe I didn't know this
Tim once again you prove your channel to be the GOAT
This is perhaps the best most comprehensive tutorial on war thunder I’ve ever watched, i love how he gives live gameplay examples to demonstrate how things would work in a real game
Tim putting in the WORK
Had all the info I needed and more thanks for the great explanation of all the system types
Amazing guide, you really put a lot of effort into these videos.
This is by far the best WT tutorials channel, keep up the good work!
Keep it up! These guides are unbelievably helpful.
Thank you again Tims. You do a great job with you videos. Can't wait the Air To Ground one. Especially the keybing.
Take care.
I have loads of time in Wt. really like that someone is putting in the effort instead of the 30 second tiktok clips. Thanks so much man, subbed.
Great video as always, I've seen the OG before but this is still a treat to watch
Ty for the video Tim I was waiting for this video since last year .
Perfect, greatly usefull guide for newbies and veterans, thank you for the great work!
I wish they'd add missile callouts, preferably automatic ones. Like automatic callouts in general would be nice like if a tank spots an enemy it will automatically call out type, heading and rough distance. Same with missiles to warn friendlies.
A few games have this now, its pretty much the only interesting feature in bf 2042 which also mentions if an enemy is near a landmark.
Been waiting for this one!
Love your content. Keep it up much love. Been having a great time with missiles
Awesome work ! And im happy im not the only one with green lines from the radar all over the screen. You have a new sub. and now on to the radar guide, there is a lot to know to win in this game! Well done again and thanx for upload.
And Ill leave a comment on this video also. Thanks for the video. It helped me understand why I wasnt getting my missiles to fire and which of my options would be better.
Been loking foward to this video!
I'm mad that I've never stumbled upon your channel sooner! Thank you for the amazing breakdowns of informative knowledge on subjects most others don't cover. Good stuff! o7
heck yeah, I'm loving your content man, great job!
Very very helpful guide!!! Especially for me who played only ground vehicles for more than a year since started
Thanks man, I needed this tutorial you deserve another subscriber!
Your time and dedication will pay off, Love the Vids.
Tim - these are very useful guides - thank you for taking the time to make them
Very helpful dude thanks for posting, appreciate the time you put in to these.
Bro thank you I’ve been trying to figure this out for almost a week now. Thanks bro.
I've got 2400 hours in WT and have always been too intimidated by the complexity of jets past 8.0.
This video gave me what I needed to give it a go.
Turns out I've been missing out on a lot!
Great video Tim! I was wondering if you could perhaps make a video series covering all the missiles in each respective country (all the different missiles in USA, USSR, GER, etc.) I feel like this would be good since there's some missiles that are pretty different but the stat cards don't make them obvious, and it would be nice to hear your input on each missile individually. I know this would be a pretty long series, but it if you ever run out of ideas for content or just need to put out some videos it could be a decent move. Keep making the great content!
Once again a great tutorial your pretty much the best TH-camr for tutorials thank you
Thanks Tim i find this extremely useful i needed someone to walk me thru this
Spectacular guide. Subbed
i already now almost everything about radars and missiles in WT but i still lvoe your videos and they are very easy to understand :D
i will remember this videos for my entire life which helps me alot thanks tim's for the tips !
Amazing guide, really helpful! keep up the good work!
Great video. No bullshit. Just information. Directly subscribed!
Worth mentioning. You do not need a "fire air to air missile" keybind if you just use the "fire secondary weapons" keybind instead. Helps consolidate controls when you only need a single key to drop bombs, fire rockets, or launch different types of air to air and/or air to ground missiles, just depending on which you have selected at any one time.
The controls menu will still warn you that you don't have a firing key bound though, so I just set it to something obscure like Alt + Num7 or something and JUST use the fire secondary weapons key
Slight correction - none of our current all-aspect IR missiles can see a target coming DIRECTLY at you, so you can't use them in fully front-aspect shots like you could a radar guided missile for example. They can see targets at much closer to frontal angles, but not directly nose-on.
Also worth mentioning - uncaged seekers allow you to LEAD missiles in the same way you'd lead guns, giving the missile a much shallower curve it has to follow to hit a turning target. Point the missile as far in the direction the enemy is flying as you can before firing
Other than that, fantastic guide as always!
This is super useful. Thank you so much Perma Subbed :D
Fantastic video, thank you very much.
Thanks man I was really having trouble with my fireflash missiles until now u got my sub 👌
these guides are rly helpful especially because i just got my first missile carrying plane, tysm tim!
This actually helps a lot thank you very much 👑
great video!
Thank you for this. I was totally lost trying to figure this out.
That's some high quality guide over there
New sub here! I appreciate your tutorial video! Very understanding and very well explained for new and old player.
Handy video, well done.
Congrats (and my condolences) on your new bot comments, your channel is finally getting the recognition it deserves
Thanks! I randomly bought the F-5C on a whim and I went into a game having absolutely no idea what was happening. Now I'm getting some kills!
Glad to help! o7
Very helpful even playing this game over the year's.
Very profesional made guide, thx man
Great guide!
Thank you so much for this
i like your videos, i learning about wt and english with you, thanks from brazil
great guide ty
Not gunna lie, don't need to be here but i love watching your guides. The cadence of speech and how you articulate and explain things makes me very happy, And kinda relaxed?
This was extremely helpful
Amazing guide. Didn't know that Phoenix Missiles work this way
nice guides from you thanks
Great video, thank you.
Nice video. Tips on how to dodge each type of missile could help too, whether with countermeasures or not.
I found it simple for me to bind any secondary weapons to the "SPACE" bar. It works for me with no issues. Give it a shot. And BTW this video is very well done. Kudos!
I do the same thing - I use spacebar as my secondary weapon keybind. It means I have to pay attention to what weapon I have selected, but it makes weapon use under pressure FAR easier.
@@TimsVariety yes sir!
Well thanks, i will study this and hopefully work my issues out
MCLOS missiles like the AA-20 Nord are some of the best lower-BR helicopter/drone killers out there. It also is really easy to use something like the G91 to take out a large amount of predator drones, in the event of an uptier, as the base AIM-9B don't track drones well. Harder to use, but MUCH easier to target those specific scenarios. It's also a head-on monster in air RB, for anyone who gets a little greedy on initial contact. You can pretty effectively shoot this 3km+ out if you see someone turn towards you. This specific missile doesn't leave a super big trail either, as it's a slow burning cruiser style missile, making it almost impossible to spot unless you visually see the launch off the aircraft
Thank you 🖤
Great guide, hits every point I could think of. Great job as usual!
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@@manmeh4r and
@@manmeh4r lol
@@drierwhisper729 no hate just saying
I know
spot on !
My man is a legend 👍
Thank you very useful from a new player :D
very nice. thank you good sir!
Liked and subscribed.
3:17
The missile knows where it is
It knows this because it know where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is, whichever is greater, it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't and, arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was is now the position that it isn't. In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation; the variation being the difference between where the missile is and where it isn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it, too, may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was. The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows: because a variation has modified some of the information the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is, however it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice versa. And by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be and where it was, it is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error.
That was very helpful
Good guide
Hey Tim I love your content and has really helped me move into the higher tiers, even as a veteran player.
Also, as an Italian, I would just like to let you know that the Aspide is pronounced "As-peed-ay".
Just letting you know before someone gets mad about it!
Thank you again, and keep up the good work!
Good tip
thank you!
I love how close to reality the whole missile aspect in warthunder actually is.
Thank you.
----- Important Note on SACLOS Beam Riding Missiles -----
If you are using an aircraft with beam riding missiles and that aircraft also has a gunsight radar (a thin narrow radar scope on the right of your screen), then make sure to turn off your gunsight radar by using the keybind "Lock Radar/IRST on target" to turn off the radar. Once you do this, your radar scope on the right should disappear and a small green circle will appear indicating the radar gunsight is turned off.
The reason for this is due to the fact that any sort of radar lock or radar signal will result in the missile becoming uncontrollable as your own gunsight radar acts as interference for the missile. This can also become a problem in head-ons versus other aircraft with gunsight radars as well since they can also interfere with your radar.
It's nearly the end of 2023, but i still Watching this guide to remember all the control key.
For anyone starting to get the aim-9b in the usa tech tree, my biggest advice for you is to fire them at planes that are out of "energy" as in they just made a big turn and they're flying really really slow.
The reason i say that is because the IR tracker in the aim-9b can be lost by simply turning fast enough so if a jet is going under 600km/h ish, they can't just turn away from your missiles.
I am so freakin stoked for Weasel gameplay
I have a WT Pairings vid up with the W1A2
love your contente
Tim is my WT instructor.
Quality content
Thank you so much!