I think you have taught me everything I know in this game. From energy fighting and defensive flying to radar usage. Cheers Defyn, your guides are always a massive help
@@DEFYN This is the best guide i have ever seen, you show how to do it and show example's and keep hammering it in with clips of effectively doing it.👏👏👏
@@DEFYNhey sorry, unrelated, what is the bracket underneath the mar at 2:29 ? Thank you And if you could make a short video on the new in cockpit mfd (?) radar screens on what each number means and each symbol. Thank you
Hell yeah, great to get a dedicated in-depth tutorial from our man Defyn! I've been notching Fox-3's slightly better but thanks so much we appreciate it!
Wow as a newer player to top tier, this is the most in depth, comprehensive guide to fighting at top tier that I’ve seen. I’ve spent tens of hours researching and trying to understand how to play/ defend against these things and now I fell I have understood. Don’t normally comment on videos but felt I had to on this. Well done and thank you
8:05 ive found that when notching and dropping 2-3 pops of chaff at a time in random intervals, the missile is slightly turning into the chaff briefly before going back to lead pursuit on my plane- effectively making it travel a greater distance while also turning more rlcreating drag and slowing it down. Makes it a lot easier to outrun/ outturn it
17:42 - targets that have clear sky as background gives Pulse Doppler no ground returns as reference point to filter out, thus any decent radar set becomes unnotchable unless chaff is involved.
A wonderfully educational video with defined terms within. This video does not exclude a single audience and I applaud you for that. Thank you for putting this out there:)
That last part when defyn mentioned that you have other ordnances really relates to me. I just got AIM120 some minutes ago with F15C and while i grinded it most of my kills were with aim9m. Lots of people got so focused and stressed facing fox 3s that they forgot that ir missiles still exist, they just didnt flare. Easy splash.
Happened to me the other day in my F-14B, got uptiered to 13.0 and had a missile fired at me head on, was confident it was an AIM-120 only to realize too late that it was an AIM-9M and I hadn't bothered turning my afterburner off when I turned around
Defyn is a masterfull virtuoso when it comes to painting. That SU-27 at 8:45< is made in such a way that blinking makes it wobbly. So much talent required to create such a powerful illusion. Truly impeccable piece of art.
Very helpful video, I knew some of this already but the strategies with altitude and cranking are really good to learn! Got an Ace in the Gripen A yesterday so IR-missiles are definetly still useful lol
The last point about IR missiles and guns is super relevant. I've gotten a ton of IR and gun kills lately. Its like people are so focused on Fox 3's the rest of their brains stopped working.
I feel the opposite I’ve been launching 9ms in scenarios where I would always get kills before fox3s came out and now I just die to the fox 3 every time and my missile gets flared. Given I probably shouldn’t be using ir missiles in headons
This is super helpful, I feel like I've been playing for thunder for a while that Top tier and have a decent understanding of radar, but having this breakdown really helps with the learning experience
Very well done video. You explained conplex concepts well using similes and analogy. You may not get the most views with these videos but they are very helpful. Ty defyn
also, for cranking, losing some altitude while turning to the gimbal limit also forces the missile to turn more as it decreases in altitude and as it enters thicker air, while you retain your speed in a turn as you fly down. this makes the missile turn down, in addition to turning left or right, while flying into thick air. And if you then use the gimbal limit to turn in the other direction, it bleeds more speed before finally turning cold (but that's not recommended unless you have some distance to maneuver before the missile reaches you, otherwise, crank and go cold).
Incredible video mate. Not only works for WT. It works for DCS World too. Currently flying the F-16C there and i killed two bandits last time using a couple of this techniques so. Thanks a lot!
btw regarding multipath you can enable the radar altitude display in the settings which shows the altitude of the plane based on the ground and not the sea level it helps when you try to use multipath as you can also define a minimup altitude so the radar altitude display goes red if you fly below that altitude
I want to note, for 9:05, that yes most PD radars will usually not have a problem with zero speed closure rates, not all radars can lock targets at zero closure speed (in all conditions). The F-14s radar most notibly suffers from zero speed clutter. How in the world you'd ask, that's because of sidelobe returns. When flying low to the ground, the ground right underneath you has a strong enough return (from your radar sidelobes) to clutter the 0 m/s speed region. The ground underneath you is essentially always moving with you at the same rate. Most modern radars do not have this clutter at all, it's just turned off in their code (I guess they filter these out using radar altitude data realistically speaking). In the case of the F-14, it's about a +/- 60 m/s region from zero speed you can't lock when cluttered, going to higher altitudes of course helps reducing the clutter. F-4J/S (and the Speys) suffer from the same issue, as well as radarsets with the MTI mode, maybe some other ones as well.
Hey thank you for this guide, even though I was familiar with radar (or so I thought) and have like 1500 games at 10.3+, this was real easy to understand and I loved watching it. Real useful.
Having just ground out the IRIAF F14, this was invaluable, understanding that you still have to keep a bit of a lock with the AIM54 until they can guide themselves, explains why I was not getting any BVR kills at all, I was literally Firing and Forgetting
Defyn my dude, your animated infographics are insane. I remember when it all started with sideway silhouettes of props and the explosion emoji 💥now you animate radars and flight paths (edit even each missile's own silhouette too) . You's a man always improving, someone make him stop!
Gonna watch this knowing full well Im still gonna get smacked out of the air by these new wall hacking missiles even after using terrain masking to defeat them (literaly happened)
Trying to learn how to fly the Squadron Sea Harrier, and keep dying to missiles repeatedly at altitude, and at low-level flight it's a deathtrap too. If I turnfight, I'm dead from BnZ. If I BnZ, I die to Radar Missiles. Trying to learn how to fly it effectively given the changes since your last video, hell, it's been moved up 2 BR notches n all. I try, and thanks for keeping up the guides.
the thing that i did not understand is when it comes to notching 9:29 do i have to like notch the radar missile itsef aka( ARH missile ) or the jet that is locking me?
I have a question, if we all like dogfighting in top tier planes, wouldnt It be a good idea to make another gamemode like ARB (df) (doghfight) so we can have idk maybe higher multipath or whatever like duels? so we can play again dogfighter planes like the f16 A
Anyone else noticed after reduction of the multipath that the WT trees are like 120 meters tall? I was flying a mirage today and was using the cockpit radar altimeter that displays exact height from the ground and when I finally reached 60 meters (when the ground protection of multipath starts), I was like in the middle of the height of average tree in the map ...... 120m trees (like 400 feet) is probably too much for a tree :D
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Truly the Picasso of our time 🎨🖌
"The f15 is fast but not quite as large as your mother"
Nah Hans Zimmer is the picasso of our time, some say he's the mozart of our time but I say he's both.
Who needs the mona Lisa when you can have this absolute gem of a drawing
top 5 comment right here
@@ziepex7009 thanks
I think you have taught me everything I know in this game. From energy fighting and defensive flying to radar usage. Cheers Defyn, your guides are always a massive help
This guide is suprisingly easy to understand for such a complex topic. Massive kudos
that was the aim, glad to hear it :)
@@DEFYN This is the best guide i have ever seen, you show how to do it and show example's and keep hammering it in with clips of effectively doing it.👏👏👏
@@DEFYNhey sorry, unrelated, what is the bracket underneath the mar at 2:29 ? Thank you
And if you could make a short video on the new in cockpit mfd (?) radar screens on what each number means and each symbol. Thank you
@@frank-7861the bracket is the mar, it has a lower range because if you’re close enough there are many things that the enemy could do to evade.
Yeah, i totally agree. Plus the bussin drawings
I left the boring museum I was in (the Louvre) because this absolute masterclass beats every exhibition there by an art school rejection and a half.
DFYN: See the radar as a fleshlight
Me: Wait what? Oh right, accent
Thank you Defyn, I can now larp properly
Same
Hell yeah, great to get a dedicated in-depth tutorial from our man Defyn!
I've been notching Fox-3's slightly better but thanks so much we appreciate it!
Wow as a newer player to top tier, this is the most in depth, comprehensive guide to fighting at top tier that I’ve seen. I’ve spent tens of hours researching and trying to understand how to play/ defend against these things and now I fell I have understood. Don’t normally comment on videos but felt I had to on this. Well done and thank you
Don't play WT anymore but gonna watch for the tutorial algorithm.
Based
8:05 ive found that when notching and dropping 2-3 pops of chaff at a time in random intervals, the missile is slightly turning into the chaff briefly before going back to lead pursuit on my plane- effectively making it travel a greater distance while also turning more rlcreating drag and slowing it down. Makes it a lot easier to outrun/ outturn it
17:42 - targets that have clear sky as background gives Pulse Doppler no ground returns as reference point to filter out, thus any decent radar set becomes unnotchable unless chaff is involved.
A wonderfully educational video with defined terms within. This video does not exclude a single audience and I applaud you for that. Thank you for putting this out there:)
this is why I love you
you make things simple and put visual examples in the video for speds like me
That last part when defyn mentioned that you have other ordnances really relates to me.
I just got AIM120 some minutes ago with F15C and while i grinded it most of my kills were with aim9m.
Lots of people got so focused and stressed facing fox 3s that they forgot that ir missiles still exist, they just didnt flare. Easy splash.
Happened to me the other day in my F-14B, got uptiered to 13.0 and had a missile fired at me head on, was confident it was an AIM-120 only to realize too late that it was an AIM-9M and I hadn't bothered turning my afterburner off when I turned around
No panic CME ?
Defyn is a masterfull virtuoso when it comes to painting.
That SU-27 at 8:45< is made in such a way that blinking makes it wobbly. So much talent required to create such a powerful illusion.
Truly impeccable piece of art.
Seriously started using your videos on how to actually notch, crank and play these jets at top tier. Genuinely top notch content as well as patter.
Very helpful video, I knew some of this already but the strategies with altitude and cranking are really good to learn! Got an Ace in the Gripen A yesterday so IR-missiles are definetly still useful lol
3:53 Me when I see SU-57 in my radar
You win the comment section
Shitty ah NATO jokes, bruh new jokes when they gonna drop SU57 is old
@@Micro-Lander I'd make SU 75 jokes but like either of the Sukhois they're still in the hangar
@@stevato0449 we'd make Su-75 jokes but the blueprints have not even left Ivan's babushka's basement. And when it does it will be a paper tiger
@@televisio8652 This just sounds a bit upset.
Very informative Mr. Defyn. Thank you for sharing.
The last point about IR missiles and guns is super relevant. I've gotten a ton of IR and gun kills lately. Its like people are so focused on Fox 3's the rest of their brains stopped working.
Same with my Magic 2s, though rarely gun kills because people will keep distance (and expose their afterburner in the process)
I feel the opposite I’ve been launching 9ms in scenarios where I would always get kills before fox3s came out and now I just die to the fox 3 every time and my missile gets flared. Given I probably shouldn’t be using ir missiles in headons
@@cheemsburmger8588 aim-9m is easily flared in a headon
Great video that compiles really well all the knowledge one needs to fight in the new META. A great watch
Man this Video is such a Masterpiece thank you so much Defyn ♥
This is super helpful, I feel like I've been playing for thunder for a while that Top tier and have a decent understanding of radar, but having this breakdown really helps with the learning experience
This video is excellent.
Well done as always Def. o7
For real, great video! Hard to cover so much information that comes with the bvr play but you nailed it and kept it entertaining.
Really appreciate the level of detail and corrolating it all into one video, thanks man! Must have been a lot of work!
Your videos really helped me to become better at dogfights. Thank you!
Thank you for explaining this! Massiv help.
These videos are freaking amazing, im learning so much!
Love cranking to your videos keep it up 👍👍
Very well done video. You explained conplex concepts well using similes and analogy. You may not get the most views with these videos but they are very helpful. Ty defyn
also, for cranking, losing some altitude while turning to the gimbal limit also forces the missile to turn more as it decreases in altitude and as it enters thicker air, while you retain your speed in a turn as you fly down. this makes the missile turn down, in addition to turning left or right, while flying into thick air. And if you then use the gimbal limit to turn in the other direction, it bleeds more speed before finally turning cold (but that's not recommended unless you have some distance to maneuver before the missile reaches you, otherwise, crank and go cold).
Incredible video mate. Not only works for WT. It works for DCS World too. Currently flying the F-16C there and i killed two bandits last time using a couple of this techniques so. Thanks a lot!
study for 30 mins ❌ watch how to deal with fox-3 missiles ✅
Can bro jam MY WEZ? 👀
I AM WAZZING THE JEM
HES PULLING OUT HIS WEZ
She is jamming my WEZ till i Fox
jam deez nuts
I jam my wez every night
I feel like I was already almost doing everything right but not having great success with it. Thanks for clarifying the key bits I was missing!
When your understanding of a topic is so great, that you can explain it like we are 5 yo
Excellent video Defyn, as always the Picasso of our time
You are the reason i didn't gave up on Air RB
Dude thank you so much for fox-3 missile guide,
Good guide, thanks defyn
btw regarding multipath you can enable the radar altitude display in the settings which shows the altitude of the plane based on the ground and not the sea level it helps when you try to use multipath as you can also define a minimup altitude so the radar altitude display goes red if you fly below that altitude
I already knew most of this but i didnt know exactly how the DL display and PD worked so this video was very informative
my brain expanded by a significant amount after this video, thank you neurosurgeon Dr. Defyn
crazy how the best bvr tutorial is done by a warthunder player instead of a dcs player
Imagine applying all of this then your team proceeds to get wiped out, FUN
as the soviet mains said when the r27er got you in terminal guidance: Just nutch hardur bro))
Thanks, needed this
I want to note, for 9:05, that yes most PD radars will usually not have a problem with zero speed closure rates, not all radars can lock targets at zero closure speed (in all conditions). The F-14s radar most notibly suffers from zero speed clutter. How in the world you'd ask, that's because of sidelobe returns. When flying low to the ground, the ground right underneath you has a strong enough return (from your radar sidelobes) to clutter the 0 m/s speed region. The ground underneath you is essentially always moving with you at the same rate.
Most modern radars do not have this clutter at all, it's just turned off in their code (I guess they filter these out using radar altitude data realistically speaking). In the case of the F-14, it's about a +/- 60 m/s region from zero speed you can't lock when cluttered, going to higher altitudes of course helps reducing the clutter. F-4J/S (and the Speys) suffer from the same issue, as well as radarsets with the MTI mode, maybe some other ones as well.
Yeah that part confused me, because I knew that closure rate was filtered in the F-14 from experience.
13:40 "the sigma missile" got me
no matter how good missiles get missiles don't go through mountains.
this was very well thought out and presented. Well done. Should help lots of noobs out there
I just gooned all over my table seeing a new defyn video
nice job defyn
Hey thank you for this guide, even though I was familiar with radar (or so I thought) and have like 1500 games at 10.3+, this was real easy to understand and I loved watching it. Real useful.
Having just ground out the IRIAF F14, this was invaluable, understanding that you still have to keep a bit of a lock with the AIM54 until they can guide themselves, explains why I was not getting any BVR kills at all, I was literally Firing and Forgetting
congrats for the effort !
This seems so much easier in RB the sim.
Thanks for the useful information.
DEFYN Making us all more qualified pilots than actual Mig pilots and the few modern phantom pilot’s 😂😂
Thanks for the great tutorials as always.
I should not have found Defyn saying "sigma missile" as funny as I did yet here I am laughing away as a hyena. Tho great video as always
Would still be stuck at props if Defyn wasnt around, appreciate every bit of help you give (ps I reckon your the next Van Gogh as well :))
Defyn my dude, your animated infographics are insane. I remember when it all started with sideway silhouettes of props and the explosion emoji 💥now you animate radars and flight paths (edit even each missile's own silhouette too) . You's a man always improving, someone make him stop!
perfect timing Defyn, i just got the RB99's on the "new" grippy
Went from getting no kills to 1-2 every game. Huge thanks!
13:02 Defyn no! Don’t tell them my secret!
Good shit bro thanks alot
Gonna watch this knowing full well Im still gonna get smacked out of the air by these new wall hacking missiles even after using terrain masking to defeat them (literaly happened)
Excellent content. Really.
THANK YOU! The 1st grade level visuals FINALLY allowed my monkey ass brain to understand cranking! This is an absolutely awesome guide.
We got Defyn teaching dcs Larp ‘tactics’ before the spotting system is fixed this is truly a moment of all time.
Trying to learn how to fly the Squadron Sea Harrier, and keep dying to missiles repeatedly at altitude, and at low-level flight it's a deathtrap too. If I turnfight, I'm dead from BnZ. If I BnZ, I die to Radar Missiles.
Trying to learn how to fly it effectively given the changes since your last video, hell, it's been moved up 2 BR notches n all.
I try, and thanks for keeping up the guides.
This is helping me learn to fly my 5F. I’m no good with the MICA’s.
There goes TH-cam unsubbing me from people randomly again. Love these videos, helps a lot for surviving in top tier!
Needed those few seconds 😩😤😤
So much fun.. thank you
Great video
best line of the video dont forget you have a gun so many ppl have forgot they have a gun now
I was just watching missile videos and eh, here we are......how not to die so much....awesome.....
2:10 I love that someone pointed out that Warframe pregnancy is a thing.
amazing video and great info. Gracias!
Welcome to the Navy Fighter Weapons School. Your instructor for today will be Lieutenant Colonel "Cutaway" Defyn.
Being a DCS player is beneficial 👌👍
Bro really broke the 4th wall at the end with putting us to sleep just as I was dozing off 😳
thanks for the guide. I was thinking about getting a top tier premium with the summer sale, tried it out and couldnt fire missiles or anything
Had to pause my goon sesh to watch and study
Gave Videos!
Bedankt
This comes in handy for when I pass the French br 11.3 and get to the mirage 2000.
nicely made thx
I just feel like when I’m notching their missile seems to track me just fine anything else I could try
ty
1:16, "warframe pregnancy confirmed guys" HUH?
I bet he's flying his F-16C higher than he used to. 26:06.
Hey Defyn, are you planning to do a video on the J-8F with the new missiles? Just want to know if it’s any good or not😊
So THAT'S how the missile knows where it is.
the thing that i did not understand is when it comes to notching
9:29
do i have to like notch the radar missile itsef aka( ARH missile ) or the jet that is locking me?
I have a question, if we all like dogfighting in top tier planes, wouldnt It be a good idea to make another gamemode like ARB (df) (doghfight) so we can have idk maybe higher multipath or whatever like duels? so we can play again dogfighter planes like the f16 A
Legit questioon: whats the difference between the single-circle vs the double-circle when locking the Fox3? like at 6:45
I minute ago DEFYN guide = :)
Anyone else noticed after reduction of the multipath that the WT trees are like 120 meters tall? I was flying a mirage today and was using the cockpit radar altimeter that displays exact height from the ground and when I finally reached 60 meters (when the ground protection of multipath starts), I was like in the middle of the height of average tree in the map ...... 120m trees (like 400 feet) is probably too much for a tree :D
Could you make a video on any aircraft at 12.3-12.7 without any fox 3 like the M4K wich impossible to play in the current metha