As an amateur with woodworker, i typically feel overpowered with the entire arrangement th-cam.com/users/postUgkxrYREG3-7f1Aqk9ams3ZESRNzGnfdUtyQ . Be that as it may, this arrangements drove me through with much clarity and effortlessness woodplans. Works i now work like a genius. That is great!
Two splendid examples of what in English we call a Captain's Chair, and an excellent restoration job. The dominant feature marking it as a Captain's Chair is that the single heavy rail forming the back and arms. (It might not be a single piece of wood, but it functions as a single unit in most Captain's Chair designs.) This is often extended up the back, sometimes quite a lot, with upholstery being optional in general, but some designs it's integral. Then there are similar designs where the supports have fabric stretched between them, but this is properly called a Director's Chair. MOST Captain's Chairs have spindle turned supports, but not always, so you get things like bow-back Captain's Chairs. The other main kind of wooden chair you see is the dining chair. Sometimes people confuse a variant of a dining chair called a carver for a Captain's Chair, but one of the few things that is always consistent is that a carver is a dining chair with arms added to it (a base dining chair without arms is called a single) so there won't be a single heavy rail that forms both arms and the main portion of the back. I've never seen an example of a Captain's Chair with that exact type of arm supports, but there are so many variants just in the English-speaking world that it's impossible to know all o them, never mind variations that were built in countries with somewhat different furniture traditions.
Normally I favor natural finishes for solid-wood pieces, but the paint hides the patch work. Plus you are the one who saved it from the garbage so anything you do is definitionally a net positive--you get to do what you want.
Love, love, love the patch you made! Using the router with the bearing guide to make the patch blend in with the curve of the chair - that is super slick! I am glad you showed the chairs in the trash on the street first - I never would have picked them out as being something special. But the matt black really makes the extraordinary design of the chair stand out. Well done you! Müll in Schatz verwandeln 24-7! :)
Love how you allow us to see even the fine details of your sanding/paint removal process. Educational and visually satisfying at the same time. Really love your work and you ability to share with others
Beautiful chair and I love the black, has some Lovecraft vibe to it, just perfect. But you definitely need to write your name and restauration date on the underside of the seat. Imagine the next person who finds the chair can read about it's history.
I agree : sign your work. Take Jimmy DiResta for example: he puts his name on just about anything he touches 😁. Each person who works with his hands should sign the objects he makes. I remember an episode of the Little House in the Prairie where Charles Ingals made furniture in his name to leave a trace in history once he was gone. I found it very moving. Think of the emotion of someone who will discover your signature in a hundred years...
@@th.l.7768 I remember reading about a man who had built a desk for his wife and he wrote a beautiful poem about her on the underside. They found it long after his passing.
I think it's not what someone else might think of something that it's for your personal use and taste. It's the upcycling process, the reveal of the beauty in the object and the thought process that awakens in all of us. You went with all black chair, and probably a part of your viewers also would've went, and others might have taken another path. Like the cliché says: it's not the end result that is important but rather the journey. Congratulations, Laura!
I love, love, love that you used fish glue for this-the perfect blend of open time and tackiness for a project of this sort, and historically accurate too.
LOVE it!! Very much reminds me of a rocking chair that I saved from a trash pile many years ago. One of the back slats was broken but even using the same woo it didn't look right stained, so we painted it using oil based paint. Went black with a bit of bronze metallic and over thinned the last coat to get a little cracking to make it look like old paint. My wife still loves it so much she had me paint our new headboard to match it.
Looks amazing. Like everything you do. Such a pleasure to watch. You look so serious when you work, and then the pure joy on your face when you present the finished project. Thanks so much !
Sehr schön! Large pieces in dark brown are SO depressing! The wood, black color, and black skin, together they just highlight the beautiful design of the chair. "Well done" is a huge understatement. Grüsse aus Dänemark! ❤🧡💛💚💙💜
Knowing my talents as a woodworker, the best thing I could have done for that chair was to give it a nice funeral. Love your imagination and talent Laura. Thumbs up.
Really like the black. I think anything you rescue from the garbage is fair game. Also a lot of older chairs were meant to painted because the woods didn't match.
I love the way that you will find something that has been thrown away and bring it back to life again. And most of the time make it better. Now you have old chairs to go in your old house. They will look brilliant there can’t wait to see how they will look.
I think I have watched all your videos following along since you started, and every time you still inspire me to try new things and learn with every new video. Please please keep them coming.
Your attention to detail is so impressive, you have so much patience. As far as the finish, depends on what room you're going to use it in, the other finishes in that room, over all scheme. It looks good and always glad when old pieces are salvaged and brought back to life.
❤️ the music 🎶 I would have left the wood natural with the brass screws and brown or black leather. Possibly with your logo embossed in the leather… But the black looks also great 👍
The chair's design is the true beauty of this. I understand your choice in color. I think your effort will give it another 100 years of life! Well Done!
The brass hardware looks SO good against the black stain! I'm evenly split between solid color (hell yes aesthetic) vs a natural finish (mmmmm cozy wood). No wrong decisions, either way! Appreciate the work you do to share such cool projects with us. 🖤
I just love your videos you are the bomb in woodworking. I am the worst woodworker in America but It is just so damn fun I love my shop it is my happy place! I just turned 60 on the 20th I am retired from the army and sold my old company a few years ago. Now, I just play in my little wood shop more tools than knowledge but I'm getting there learning a lot from you! Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
That chair is beautiful.....to me the beauty is in the age and the shape . I like the black and I think it looks great, it's your chair and it's your choice. I like that you can see beauty in trash , always enjoy your channel.
The design of the chair itself is a winner, meaning that to me it wouldn't really matter much in the end how it was finished. It's the design that supersedes the finish.
I always appreciate it when someone takes the time to pick a piece of furniture and give it a new purpose, whatever you had done with it would be leggit.
So glad you saved this piece from the landfill! I'm not a particular fan of black furniture but seeing it completed I think it suits it very well and I'm glad you chose to go that route!
That's a really cool chair, glad you were able to safe it, it's a shame that pieces like that just get thrown away instead of being repaired. Personally I would prefer brown leather on the seat, maybe you even would have been able to salvage the old leather piece. But that's just my opinion, the all black looks good too
Thank you for your rescues. Restore/Repair/Repurpose is my mantra. Virtually everything in my sphere of influence belongs in this category. I can’t wait for my next trip to Köln. Hoping to see your fine works first hand.
I used to have one of those chairs, they are very comfortable, I sold mine, when I moved, I Love that you restore, recycle, and reduce waste, it's got nice lines in the design, my guess is they were made in the 1950's
Wow that's awesome. Very beautiful design. You saved it. Can't wait to see more videos soon my friend. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Keep making. God bless.
I personally would have oiled it with some dark oil. The cushion I would have made from a really thick, dark brown or dark reddish brown leather with brass nails. Your black version also looks good, but in my opinion a little bit to "monochrome". Maybe brass nails on the cushion would have given some nice contrast.
Very much agree the brass nails would have been a great accent line, to match the screws holding the slats on at the back. I would also have gone with a dark burgundy leather, or maybe tobacco as a better match for the brass.
You do what I do. When you see beautiful wood you run your hand across it as if it speaks to you. You can see in your minds eye what it was and what it can be again. And to bring it back to life is such a feeling of pride and love. I’ve refinished furniture and wood floors. It’s so much work, but in the end you know it’s right. I’m so glad I found your channel! I think I can learn a lot of good technique from you, so thank you! Congratulations on your home as well, you’re living my dream of one day falling in love with someplace I can breathe life back into and show others my vision of what can be.
Looks great! Only thing I would have done differently is reuse the old leather seat. The new smooth black against the old scuffed leather with those hammered brass upholstery pins would have been so striking.
I like the black finish; it lets you see the design of the chair without any distraction of the wood grain. I have seen people finish traditional chairs with a first coat of milk paint in red or blue, then a second coat of black. Then sanding the black back to expose the first coat in high contact areas so it looks a hundred years old.
Love the fact that you can and do still use your hand tools as well as powered tools. Your artistry and craftsmanship are evident in your choices of stain with brass accents. Personally I have applied a wood tone stain, but as you said, these chairs are YOUR ascetic and the black compliments your setting. Is it safe to assume that you will restore the second chair the same for a complimentary pair. Wishing you and your family a blessed spring season. Peace Laura
Used to have a very similar set of chairs from my grandma, not quite the same, they didn't have the arm rests, but the construction was still the same. They were at least 90-years old. Very few people/companies make chairs as good as those from a century ago. I would definately have stained them brown, for similar reasons to yours, better fit for the interior coloring scheme. Really stoked on how yours turned out, really nice.
I think I would have stained it white as it would match my interior style better, but I really love the black stain too! It's so nice to see that these old treasures are saved and given a new life 😍
Wow! I thought a brown stain at first, but when I saw how great it looked with black stain and black leather cushion...it's much better the way you did it!
I support the time that you put into these wonderful chairs… I also support the “do it and get it done” feelings…that synergy of decision and action can be traps..furniture whether kept, sold or given, is the result of your connection to the form..cherish that connection. Thanks for sharing.
Those are beautiful chairs, and i am glad you decided to rescue them. I agree that you should finish a restored piece of furniture in a way that would help it fit into its new home. The black paint was a nice touch. I don‘t know how you will style your home, but i think the chairs would go well with your house. I would use them as dining chairs.
The chair turned out fantastic and black was a perfect choice. I like the look of natural wood, but I was concerned the piece you replaced would not take stain in the same manner as the rest of the chair and would stand out. You gave a run down old chair a new life that really looks good in your studio. I say re-do the other chair as well. Love your channel and look forward to following you on your 100 year old house restoration journey.
I would have clear waxed the natural wood and if possible re-used the original leather and brass upholstery pins. You did a wonderful job saving this lovely old chair.
Ich liebe das matte schwarz! Habe mir selbst zwei Stühle restauriert - einen mit Wiener Geflecht und einen uralten Oma-Schaukelstuhl - und sie matt schwarz gemacht. Ich finde den Kontrast einfach super und finde, die eleganten Formen kommen so noch besser zum Vorschein! Klasse, Laura 👏
I cried a little when you started to paint that beautiful wood black. Still an amazing piece as usual though.
As an amateur with woodworker, i typically feel overpowered with the entire arrangement th-cam.com/users/postUgkxrYREG3-7f1Aqk9ams3ZESRNzGnfdUtyQ . Be that as it may, this arrangements drove me through with much clarity and effortlessness woodplans. Works i now work like a genius. That is great!
The pair of chairs will be stunning in old house!
Two splendid examples of what in English we call a Captain's Chair, and an excellent restoration job. The dominant feature marking it as a Captain's Chair is that the single heavy rail forming the back and arms. (It might not be a single piece of wood, but it functions as a single unit in most Captain's Chair designs.) This is often extended up the back, sometimes quite a lot, with upholstery being optional in general, but some designs it's integral. Then there are similar designs where the supports have fabric stretched between them, but this is properly called a Director's Chair. MOST Captain's Chairs have spindle turned supports, but not always, so you get things like bow-back Captain's Chairs.
The other main kind of wooden chair you see is the dining chair. Sometimes people confuse a variant of a dining chair called a carver for a Captain's Chair, but one of the few things that is always consistent is that a carver is a dining chair with arms added to it (a base dining chair without arms is called a single) so there won't be a single heavy rail that forms both arms and the main portion of the back.
I've never seen an example of a Captain's Chair with that exact type of arm supports, but there are so many variants just in the English-speaking world that it's impossible to know all o them, never mind variations that were built in countries with somewhat different furniture traditions.
Normally I favor natural finishes for solid-wood pieces, but the paint hides the patch work. Plus you are the one who saved it from the garbage so anything you do is definitionally a net positive--you get to do what you want.
Love, love, love the patch you made! Using the router with the bearing guide to make the patch blend in with the curve of the chair - that is super slick! I am glad you showed the chairs in the trash on the street first - I never would have picked them out as being something special. But the matt black really makes the extraordinary design of the chair stand out. Well done you! Müll in Schatz verwandeln 24-7! :)
“Love, love, love…” is my sentiment exactly!
Slick is exactly the word that came to mind when it was finished!
Gorgeous! I think I would have kept the gold seat cushion pins just to add that pop of gold
I thought the same but I think they were non-salvagable. They're just too bent once you force them out of the wood.
Love how you allow us to see even the fine details of your sanding/paint removal process. Educational and visually satisfying at the same time. Really love your work and you ability to share with others
It is your eyes, your mind, your heart, your joy! You should never, ever, ever care what I think. Ya did good.
It’s a beautiful chair. I would have used brass tacks on the seat, since there are brass screws on the wood. 🐝🤗❤️
Beautiful chair and I love the black, has some Lovecraft vibe to it, just perfect.
But you definitely need to write your name and restauration date on the underside of the seat. Imagine the next person who finds the chair can read about it's history.
This!!
Sign your work. This! lol
I agree : sign your work. Take Jimmy DiResta for example: he puts his name on just about anything he touches 😁. Each person who works with his hands should sign the objects he makes. I remember an episode of the Little House in the Prairie where Charles Ingals made furniture in his name to leave a trace in history once he was gone. I found it very moving. Think of the emotion of someone who will discover your signature in a hundred years...
@@th.l.7768 I remember reading about a man who had built a desk for his wife and he wrote a beautiful poem about her on the underside.
They found it long after his passing.
@@isegrim1978 Thx for sharing that lovely story.
I think it's not what someone else might think of something that it's for your personal use and taste.
It's the upcycling process, the reveal of the beauty in the object and the thought process that awakens in all of us.
You went with all black chair, and probably a part of your viewers also would've went, and others might have taken another path.
Like the cliché says: it's not the end result that is important but rather the journey.
Congratulations, Laura!
I love, love, love that you used fish glue for this-the perfect blend of open time and tackiness for a project of this sort, and historically accurate too.
LOVE it!! Very much reminds me of a rocking chair that I saved from a trash pile many years ago. One of the back slats was broken but even using the same woo it didn't look right stained, so we painted it using oil based paint. Went black with a bit of bronze metallic and over thinned the last coat to get a little cracking to make it look like old paint. My wife still loves it so much she had me paint our new headboard to match it.
Looks amazing. Like everything you do. Such a pleasure to watch. You look so serious when you work, and then the pure joy on your face when you present the finished project. Thanks so much !
Sehr schön! Large pieces in dark brown are SO depressing! The wood, black color, and black skin, together they just highlight the beautiful design of the chair.
"Well done" is a huge understatement.
Grüsse aus Dänemark! ❤🧡💛💚💙💜
Love that you went with your gut and made it all black. You will always know what it looked like before and now it's all your own. Great job!
Knowing my talents as a woodworker, the best thing I could have done for that chair was to give it a nice funeral. Love your imagination and talent Laura. Thumbs up.
Really like the black. I think anything you rescue from the garbage is fair game. Also a lot of older chairs were meant to painted because the woods didn't match.
I love the way that you will find something that has been thrown away and bring it back to life again. And most of the time make it better. Now you have old chairs to go in your old house. They will look brilliant there can’t wait to see how they will look.
I think I have watched all your videos following along since you started, and every time you still inspire me to try new things and learn with every new video. Please please keep them coming.
There’s nothing better than bringing life back into something old and you have achieved. Great choice on the colour. Thanks for sharing
Your attention to detail is so impressive, you have so much patience. As far as the finish, depends on what room you're going to use it in, the other finishes in that room, over all scheme. It looks good and always glad when old pieces are salvaged and brought back to life.
I love the black finish to the repaired & upcycled chair. Its a great way to make a classic design fit the modern home or office.
❤️ the music 🎶 I would have left the wood natural with the brass screws and brown or black leather. Possibly with your logo embossed in the leather… But the black looks also great 👍
You said it exactly - it now looks so modern & fresh! Excellent work.
It's beautiful and obviously you love it. It's your chair so I'm glad you made it your own.
The chair's design is the true beauty of this. I understand your choice in color. I think your effort will give it another 100 years of life! Well Done!
I love it!!! It looks ready for another hundred years!!
From Thomas Jhonson Antique Furniture Restoration, I would tell you that he always labels all the connections 😉. Beautiful job!
I love the mindset of reusing the resources and making the style your own! Stain is so much better than paint so the choice was solid 👌
The brass hardware looks SO good against the black stain! I'm evenly split between solid color (hell yes aesthetic) vs a natural finish (mmmmm cozy wood). No wrong decisions, either way! Appreciate the work you do to share such cool projects with us. 🖤
No wrong choice when you make it how YOU want it! Chair came out fantastic! You are inspiring!
I just found your channel a couple of weeks ago and you are so talented. I just love watching you repair and building of things. Thank you.
I love refinishing old furniture, I find it so satisfying to bring life back into the piece.
As an old lady I like the natural wood look but I have to say it's absolutely gorgeous! Your design instincts are amazing!
T'is a thing of beauty and a joy forever! You have a very good eye for furniture and I am so so Glad that You rescued those two chairs!
I just love your videos you are the bomb in woodworking. I am the worst woodworker in America but It is just so damn fun I love my shop it is my happy place! I just turned 60 on the 20th I am retired from the army and sold my old company a few years ago. Now, I just play in my little wood shop more tools than knowledge but I'm getting there learning a lot from you! Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
That chair is beautiful.....to me the beauty is in the age and the shape .
I like the black and I think it looks great, it's your chair and it's your choice. I like that you can see beauty in trash , always enjoy your channel.
The design of the chair itself is a winner, meaning that to me it wouldn't really matter much in the end how it was finished. It's the design that supersedes the finish.
I always appreciate it when someone takes the time to pick a piece of furniture and give it a new purpose, whatever you had done with it would be leggit.
I would have voted natural finish until I saw the finished result!! I love the result. It brings the chair into this century.
Love the black. Nice work! Way better in black. Love, love, love!!!
So glad you saved this piece from the landfill! I'm not a particular fan of black furniture but seeing it completed I think it suits it very well and I'm glad you chose to go that route!
You did a magnificent job on that chair. The chair is timeless and will serve you well for many years to come. I love it. Enjoy.
That's a really cool chair, glad you were able to safe it, it's a shame that pieces like that just get thrown away instead of being repaired.
Personally I would prefer brown leather on the seat, maybe you even would have been able to salvage the old leather piece. But that's just my opinion, the all black looks good too
Thank you for your rescues. Restore/Repair/Repurpose is my mantra. Virtually everything in my sphere of influence belongs in this category. I can’t wait for my next trip to Köln. Hoping to see your fine works first hand.
Love the black! The chairs have such nice lines. They look great in black.
I used to have one of those chairs, they are very comfortable, I sold mine, when I moved, I Love that you restore, recycle, and reduce waste, it's got nice lines in the design, my guess is they were made in the 1950's
Wow stunning looking chair. Black was definitely the way to go. Great job.
Wow that's awesome. Very beautiful design. You saved it. Can't wait to see more videos soon my friend. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Keep making. God bless.
Painting it black and adding this black leather: the chair looks very cool, Laura!
good design is timeless and never out of style. And with the new color it fits to your setting.
I’d rather see it in all black, being used and appreciated in your shop, than in a landfill. Great job!
Those old upholstery tacks are fantastic, absolutely fabulous save
Matte black looks great on your refurbished chair. Great choice!
This timeless design still inspires in 100 years.
I personally would have oiled it with some dark oil. The cushion I would have made from a really thick, dark brown or dark reddish brown leather with brass nails.
Your black version also looks good, but in my opinion a little bit to "monochrome". Maybe brass nails on the cushion would have given some nice contrast.
Very much agree the brass nails would have been a great accent line, to match the screws holding the slats on at the back. I would also have gone with a dark burgundy leather, or maybe tobacco as a better match for the brass.
You do what I do. When you see beautiful wood you run your hand across it as if it speaks to you. You can see in your minds eye what it was and what it can be again. And to bring it back to life is such a feeling of pride and love. I’ve refinished furniture and wood floors. It’s so much work, but in the end you know it’s right. I’m so glad I found your channel! I think I can learn a lot of good technique from you, so thank you! Congratulations on your home as well, you’re living my dream of one day falling in love with someplace I can breathe life back into and show others my vision of what can be.
Give a new life to an old object is fantastic! For the second chair i prefer natural color with the seat in brown leather and brass nails
Wonderful and satisfying restoration Laura. Love the black stain and the Briwax on top was a nice touch too. Excited to see you again next week!
The black finish looks tremendous, it fits the surroundings perfectly 👍🏻
Looks great! Only thing I would have done differently is reuse the old leather seat. The new smooth black against the old scuffed leather with those hammered brass upholstery pins would have been so striking.
Agreed the black looks great. Always fun. You are awesome.
Well done, Laura. The color is perfect. For the chair and for you. I enjoy, watching the video.
Looks great! Restoring garbage chairs is my favorite pasttime!
The finished product is gorgeous! Love the black!
Beautiful!!! Black was the right call!!!
The black is brilliant!!! Awesome choice!
The chair came out nice and you are very good at woodworking.
I like the black finish; it lets you see the design of the chair without any distraction of the wood grain. I have seen people finish traditional chairs with a first coat of milk paint in red or blue, then a second coat of black. Then sanding the black back to expose the first coat in high contact areas so it looks a hundred years old.
That is outstanding, a wonderful restoration and rescue. Thumbs up.
Just recently found your channel and watched you tear out your wall. Love the revived chair. You are a pleasure to watch.
Love the fact that you can and do still use your hand tools as well as powered tools. Your artistry and craftsmanship are evident in your choices of stain with brass accents. Personally I have applied a wood tone stain, but as you said, these chairs are YOUR ascetic and the black compliments your setting. Is it safe to assume that you will restore the second chair the same for a complimentary pair.
Wishing you and your family a blessed spring season. Peace Laura
I was skeptical about the black, at first. But when I saw the finished product, you convinced me!
Black looks just great! Fantastic renovation. Love it
Well done Laura, no shiny and flash black but an contemporary Mat Black with a retro-vision to the early 1900 aestetics! kisses from Friuli - Italy
Used to have a very similar set of chairs from my grandma, not quite the same, they didn't have the arm rests, but the construction was still the same. They were at least 90-years old. Very few people/companies make chairs as good as those from a century ago. I would definately have stained them brown, for similar reasons to yours, better fit for the interior coloring scheme. Really stoked on how yours turned out, really nice.
The black looks stunning with the brass screws!
Looks stunning! Love it with the black, think that’d look really nice with red leather for the cushion
Laura did it again. Satisfied my woodworking cravings😅😂
I love how you give this chair a new life. So beautifully done!
I would not have gone with black until I saw it finished, it looks fantastic! Well done you are a true master of your work.
I think I would have stained it white as it would match my interior style better, but I really love the black stain too! It's so nice to see that these old treasures are saved and given a new life 😍
Such a beautiful upgrade and it’s look fabulous in your place.
It's beautiful! It's a timeless style and you've given it a whole new life. Well done!
Wow! I thought a brown stain at first, but when I saw how great it looked with black stain and black leather cushion...it's much better the way you did it!
I support the time that you put into these wonderful chairs… I also support the “do it and get it done” feelings…that synergy of decision and action can be traps..furniture whether kept, sold or given, is the result of your connection to the form..cherish that connection. Thanks for sharing.
Yes! Laura + restoration = top video!
Great film, master at story telling. The chair is fabulous in black. Crazy someone was trashing it. Mahalo for sharing! 🙂🐒
Those are beautiful chairs, and i am glad you decided to rescue them. I agree that you should finish a restored piece of furniture in a way that would help it fit into its new home. The black paint was a nice touch. I don‘t know how you will style your home, but i think the chairs would go well with your house. I would use them as dining chairs.
I love patina but you did the right thing. I love restorations.
The chair turned out fantastic and black was a perfect choice. I like the look of natural wood, but I was concerned the piece you replaced would not take stain in the same manner as the rest of the chair and would stand out. You gave a run down old chair a new life that really looks good in your studio. I say re-do the other chair as well. Love your channel and look forward to following you on your 100 year old house restoration journey.
Exelent job Laura, the black is perfect color....
Love it..!!!!
Thx
100% matte black! Love it!
Nachdem du diesen Stuhl gerettet hast, und ihm neues Leben eingehaucht hast, gefällt er mir noch besser als vorher. Klasse Arbeit 👍
I would have clear waxed the natural wood and if possible re-used the original leather and brass upholstery pins. You did a wonderful job saving this lovely old chair.
Thank you for mixing it up. I think it's more important to recycle than to worry about the finish. It looks great.
Ich liebe das matte schwarz! Habe mir selbst zwei Stühle restauriert - einen mit Wiener Geflecht und einen uralten Oma-Schaukelstuhl - und sie matt schwarz gemacht. Ich finde den Kontrast einfach super und finde, die eleganten Formen kommen so noch besser zum Vorschein! Klasse, Laura 👏
Agree, the black goes fantastically with the white interior and looks perfect. Keep the other one natural with maybe a minimalist professional resto.