Hyundai Ioniq 5 v Tesla Model Y LR 375 mile race! Range, efficiency and charge speed head-to-head!
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Hi everyone. This is a great test side-by-side head-to-head between
Tesla Model Y Long Range with 20 Induction Wheels
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Hyundai Ioniq 5 Project 45 also with 20” wheels
Both dual motor cars
How EXACTLY do they compare when driven at the same speed at the same time on the same roads?
Which can recharge faster?
Which has the best efficiency?
Which can cover 400 miles the quickest?
How long do they take to recharge?
What is the maximum charge speed?
Will the Hyundai “cold gate”?
You’re about to find out..
Thanks for watching!
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I think both cars now have sufficient battery and charge times to be viable. Whist the Tesla is more efficient, I prefer the appearance of the Hyundai - and it's a bit cheaper........ Thanks for the video.
Tesla's appearance is getting outdated slowly
I have personally driven over 10,000 miles in UK roads with Ioniq5 single motor ultimate edition and Tesla model 3 LR dual motor during the last one year. Tesla is efficient and better bigger battery very firm steering wheel will enjoy the ride in some scenarios. But I am in love with Ioniq 5 is super quiet and very comfortable ride they come with IONITY fast charging which tops up 18% to 80 % in about 20 mins in right condition. This actually is equal to about 120 miles. it’s all about how you drive it !!!
Ioniq 5 (similarly to Kia's EV6) is indeed more quiet and has softer suspension. It depends what do you want, more focus on relax or on sport aspect.
By all accounts the stiffness of the ride with M3 and MY has improved drastically. I drove the Ioniq 5, loved the interior but didn't like the way it handled at all. It was the 72kWh AWD. Sluggish, heavy, slow to respond to steering (even in "sport" mode). In comparison any tesla is a much more enjoyable driving experience.
But really for me, looking for a family car, the trunk size of the Ioniq5 (and I believe it's a similar story for the KIA eNiro and the EV6) is unacceptable for a car this big. Due to poor battery placement, the cargo floor is very high! And the hatch door declines very steeply, which means the actual boot space for bulky items is really small. That's a real fail for the Ioniq 5. And if you slide the rear seats back all the way for cabin space it's even worse in terms of boot space.
This kinds of put the Ioniq 5 in a weird segment in my opinion. It's too big and bulky for a couple without kids and it really does not have a lot of usable cargo space for families.
It's hard to compare numbers as there are different standards on how trunk space is measured and photos can be deceiving. If you're thinking about the Ioniq 5 as a familly car, really go check the boot for yourself. If your lady packs like mine, you'll start sweating bullets.
As a family car, it's not even close. The MY is much - much - better. Safer body, better handling, looooads of space everywhere (cabin, trunk, frunk and underfloor storage, the Ioniq5 doesn't have any), better range and much better charging network. The Ioniq 5 charges faster but 1) you'll have to charge more often and 2) it's really only about 10 min difference with the MY, 18min vs 29min. Does that really matter? Especially on drives where you might stop one less time with the MY.
MY is more expensive and doesn't have some features people might like such as HUD. But otherwise... it's not really a competition.
@@kryptorick5120 Mars? Trying to figure out on what planet you’re writing this from… 😝
Just finished my vacation through Europe where I drove my TM3 LR 2021 MIC 4400 km all together. Lots of autobahn, no eco driving (between 140 - 160 km/h most of the time, family of 3 with ton of stuff ). Anyway, it was a dream. No problem what so ever. Much better than I could hope. Tesla super charger are placed along the highways and you just need a pause like 30 - 40 minutes ang that's it. We used more time to eat than to charge.
A perfect example of how it should be.
going that fast and accelerating/deccelerating constantly will put a large load on the battery and accelerate the wear. The more weight you have in the car the more wear on the battery so the lower the speed must be especially uphill.
3.1 vs 3.7 miles/ kWh.
I make that 19% more efficient.
Even with heat pump in Hyundai that fat Tesla is 20% more efficient right ?
@@sudeeptaghosh there is no heat pump advantage at the temps they were driving.
I've got an Ioniq 5 awd ultimate, brilliant car, very happy with it, seats slide forward for more boot space, and with ghe seats down, the load space us gigantic, more than the average person would need.
This is what I’m banking on. My kids don’t need that much leg room so we can get a lot more cargo space. That gap between the seats and cargo area is a little inelegant though. We’re looking forward to getting an I5.
@@kmschwem with the seat fully forward ye, its a bit untidy looking with the boot open. Still decent leg room with the seats forward too, the interior is gigantic. Also depends if you have the ultimate or not, as the lower shelf is largely taken up by subwoofer. You can still fit things in there, like cables and the vehicle to load adapter. But you do lose a bit of depth.
@@guybrushthreepwood3002 I have a RWD Ultimate on order, probably won’t need it very often but hoping the extra space in the trunk will come in handy on holidays and days out climbing or at the beach etc with wet kit!
I’ve owned my My LR for over 8 weeks now. Apart from the hellishly ugly 19 inch wheels… I’m thrilled with it. It’s utterly brilliant.
I like your videos RSEV…. Real world experiences.
Curious. Did you take the wheel caps off? And does it look any better
Check out Rimetrix laminar covers. They replace the gemini covers, still provide a range benefit, and look awesome! I have them and love them
Where are you located, as soon as I get my PMY I’m dumping the 21 Uberturbines for some 19s. Could be induced to pick up some Gemini’s for the right price.
@@thomasjacques5286 I still kept the wheels, I just replaced the hubcaps
@@thomasjacques5286 Faro
Excellent video. I drove from North Essex to Bristol last Friday to change my long range Model 3 for a Long range Model Y. The model 3 started with 93% battery and covered just over 200 miles to get to Bristol on combo M, A and B roads at average speeds about 50-65 miles per hour. It pre charged at one point close to Bristol but then changed it mind and we managed to get to Bristol with 26% remaining. Was very impressed. On the way back same roads but with Model Y started at 96% and got back home with 22% but average speed was faster at around 70mph. Suffice to say both cars can easily cover over 200 miles with air con on etc etc so range anxiety really is a non event at these sorts of distances. As an aside running both cars back to back the difference in noise, vibration and harshness between the 3 and Y was absolutely negligible in my opinion. I do prefer the driving position of the Y though and obviously the extra space. Either car though is a winner 🙂
This is the big one! Loving the channel as always Richard!
Also the Tesla didn't need top stop so early so could have started/finished chaging at a lower percentage meaning a faster charging rate.
or so much for Tesla's efficiency: th-cam.com/video/fFQZhR-PRVo/w-d-xo.html
@@tooltalk
New owner in the X, not using precondition properly, a driver in the 3 more concerned (rightly) about his wife and the undisputed expert gaming the system to the full extent.
I think you'll find the "efficiency" was fine.
Learn the difference.
@@tooltalk Inexperienced users and an unfortunate run in with broken chargers and for some reason not using 250kW DCFC...
The biggest difference or issue for me was that the Hyundai did not know know where the chargers were and it was routing the driver to a location further out. That could add another 10-20 minute for the driver to stop, open the phone and search for a charging location closer or, alternatively, take the further charger suggested by the Hyundai.
We have two Teslas at home so I am a fan. However, I can’t wait for the other car companies to offer some good competition with Tesla as we the consumer will be the winner in that competition. I feel that the other electric cars have a long way to go into seamless integrating with the chargers.
Great real world testing of both efficiency/range and charging, where comparable cars drive together, in the same conditions. Love it! More!! 👍
These real world tests are great for comparisons. Thank you 😊
i love how accurate you guys are! thank you. new sub :)
Such an interesting and useful comparison! Great info.
great video. looking at the MY, id.4 and Ionic 5 right now. thanks for the comparison. cheers from the other side of the pond.
Thank you! Oh, and what you said right after 08:30 regarding the "lane keeping." My new Lexus ES300h 2022 model, does the same thing. It will go over the middle yellow line on roads (I'm in the USA) and then buzz me like it's saying, "hey, wake up and watch it, you dummy!" I believe there are 3rd party companies that make these "auto pilot" features like lane guidance, and they are years behind Tesla in this regard. We have had a Tesla Model 3 since 2018. At first the Auto pilot often behaved like it had had a couple of shots of whiskey but over the years, improved to the point that the Auto Pilot is a joy, 95% of the time.
Great video! Really good summary, shows that efficiency is as important as raw charging speed. Love the looks of the Ioniq 5, Hyundai has done a great job. I have videos of a 5000 mile US trip that shows long distances are not an issue with the right charging network. Grid Serve looks awesome - would be interested to see how they have improved or fixed the Ecotricity Electric Highway sites.
Efficiency is way more important I would say. Raw charging speed is only a factor when you are on a road trip.
@@inspectorseb5286 : efficiency doent' really matter if you are not on a road trip.
@@tooltalk can’t follow that logic, I charge at home, if my car is more efficient I don’t have to charge as often. Going back to the original comment saying efficiency is AS important as raw charging speed. For normal day use I still argue efficiency is more important. Ive had my model 3 for one year now efficiency is a factor every day where as charging speed has never been a factor. If you go on 1000km+ road-trips every weekend then it’s a factor though.
@@tooltalk Unless all your electricity is free of course efficiency matters. The less efficient your car, the more expensive it is to run.
There is more to driving than efficiency alone, otherwise Ferrari would not exist ! I agree that for many people buying an electric car the cost will be a major factor, but would those same people be purchasing a £55k car ?
I am frequently stopped in the street by people wanting to know more about my ioniq 5. Every time I drive it leaves a smile on my face. I just don’t get the same feeling in a Tesla. This to me was worth more than efficiency.
Thanks for another great update video well done on the fair test
Excellent as always and really interested in the stats.
Great Video, it will be interesting to see how close it will be when the 2023 Ioniq comes out with the larger battery and pre-heating. Mind you the new Model Y with 4680 batteries maybe out then and the gap could be bigger!
Wow, wish I’d known. I’m an taxi driver of an electric Kia eniro working in bishops Stortford (right next to Stansted airport)
But I’ve a Tesla model Y due in June which I’ll be using as a taxi.
Would’ve loved to meet for a few minutes to discuss some extras your company offers, that I might consider having installed/added to the model Y to make the use of the car easier (electric door handles/ ppf/ moving centre display/instrument display/soundproofing)
Great comparison video, a lot of useful information! Thank you for sharing! 🔌⚡🚘
Been waiting for this one !
Excellent comparison video.
Great video again. Thanks!
One thing to note, the Model Y would have charged much faster if it too was charging starting at 5% SOC. But because it has a bigger battery and is more efficient and it stopped to charge based on the Hyundai's limitations then it wasn't the ideal charge scenario for the Tesla. In reality one would look for a Supercharger or DC fast charger further up the road at a lower state of charge rather than stopping with 25% SOC remaining like in this test. It would have needed even less than the 18 minutes to gain the 66% needed to get back. It would have only needed to charge from 5% to 71% and the charge curve would have been more favorable. In that case the Tesla might have only needed 15 minutes or less.
I believe it intentionally slows down after 80% on superchargers to encourage people not to remain idle? It would have been interesting if they had recorded how long it took per 10%, then we may have seen a clear slow down after 80%.
Yeah not sure why this wasn't brought up. They should be aware that starting the Tesla at that SOC was a disadvantage.
Testing should have been done on a much warmer day to test the full capabilities of both car's charging infrastructure. The Ioniq 5 was at a disadvantage due to the cold weather. At least do a second test to see what the difference might be.
It’s crazy that my 8 year old Tesla model S, single motor, have better efficiency and more range than brand new 2022 EVs. 🤯
Owned from new my Pearl White / Black wheels 8 year old 125,000 RWD P85 still with 250 mile range, still turns heads, still goes like stink and I still love every drive.
The Model S you are talking about doesn't have better efficiency at these speeds nor more range, what are you even talking about?!
Love these vids!
Thanks for the videos. The Ioniq 5 has a party trick, as the rear seats move forward. So technically has a bigger boot. Well, in Canada versions at least.
Thank you for explaining this. Many EV youtubers still just use the generic battery percentage without taking into account the efficiency of the vehicles. Not every car needs the same amount of battery charge to go the same distance. And that's a huge factor.
Most people truly interested in EVs know that already. It's the EV equivalent to ICE MPG.
Very interesting great video mate 👌
The TESLA interior has longevity .... and so has it's update system, worth the extra, it's a mindset thing, when you go over to the EV side.
Tesla interior has nothing in it dull and boring like the rest of the car.
@@davidlewis4399 The performance is anything but boring compared to the other one ... and P models are as fast/faster than sports saloons. Looks are subjective. I prefer the calmness versus 50 pointless buttons and nozzles/lights etc. YMMV. Do you just come to these videos to post that you don't like the looks of Teslas?
@@eubikedude more to a car than insane speed most drivers can't handle. Reason they remove the buttons is it makes it cheaper. If you prefer that good on you I don't and and yes I think Tesla's look terrible. I bet the driver who crashed into a convention center wished his car wasn't so fast.
@@davidlewis4399 Saying that having "insane speed" is something negative and that some how is bad, is like saying that it's better to get a score of 70 because if your get a 90 you are too smart. The speed is there you use it if you want to. It's not like the car can only be driven at high speeds.
Looks are subjective. You might like red, I might like blue and there is nothing wrong with that.
When making comparisons we have to look for what can be measured without bias. When comparing EVs, look for efficiency, charging speed, capacity, performance, range, availability of charging stations, how easy is to update or fix the vehicle's software and so on.
If the idea is to get more EVs on the road, we need choices, Tesla can't and shouldn't do it alone. We need more EVs from every manufacturer and we need people to buy those EVs. There is so much addressable market when it comes to EVs that any company making EVs is going to sell all the EVs they sell. That's why you see people waiting almost a year for their EV. When it comes to EVs, at least for now Tesla is the leader and that's a fact, no other company comes close to the number of EVs they sell. That might change in the future but for now the numbers are there for everyone to see.
Very interesting, thanks. I am a very happy owner of a RWD Ioniq 5 (Premium), and - much as I do like the Y - it's the better car for my family and I. Internal space is great; I don't need the extra oomph; the smooth ride quality is much better for my wife's travel sickness, and far more important than taut handling in a family bus; and whilst the economy is worse, yes (even my RWD would only get 3.2-3.3mi/kWh at 70mph vs the Tesla's 3.7) and the battery is smaller, the effect on my trip time is marginal and it would take a LOT of charging to make up for the £13k differential in price between the cars. I do envy the Tesla's supercharger network and how much easier it and the on-board nav make long journeys, but hopefully that gap will narrow over time. If they made a RWD Model Y with a more compliant ride, now...
Good point, £13k will buy enough electrons for maybe 10 years of motoring.
@@johndoyle4723 haha, yep, at the Octopus EV 7.5p/kWh overnight rate I make that 2,476 charges, or about 495,238 miles on the Ioniq 5 😁
Efficiency will matter even more once the electric companies increase the price of Kw/hr
Yes indeed.So glad I have solar panels, big surplus for 6-7 months to charge my EV, but in Winter charge at Tesco UK for free, long may it remain free.
Not really because charging stations will get faster too. A car capable of charging faster can get you to your destination sooner. Tesla will need to change to an 800v system soon if they want to stay competitive going forward. In the end, both efficiency and charging speed will be important with charging speed being the most important. Battery capacity will be a distant third.
@@theexmann You don’t need 800v to charge fast, the batteries can’t accept more than 1-1.5C charging anyway without being damaged, so 400v is already plenty. Could reduce copper weight of the car though, but I don’t think it’s too significant.
@@TheSteinbitt I'm sure both Porsche and Hyundai have taken those kinds of technical issues into consideration. Managing the charging curve through software, for example, I'm sure mitigates those kinds of issues. The 800v system allows to condition energy from chargers with much higher charging capacities. Chargers which will become much more common in the near future. And battery tech is continually improving as well. Those are the two achilles heels for mass EV adoption right now--battery efficiency and charging speed.
Excellent video! Expected result.
So there's a lot of competition for Tesla by now and they just confirm how far Tesla is ahead. Faster charging doesn't help the Hyundai a thing when it's much less efficient and therefore has more kwh to add. Despite the Tesla being larger and quicker. Just crazy.
Great video but would love to see a second version of that trip with both cars recharging once they hit 5%(or better yet 2%). By forcing the Tesla to start charging at a high state of charge you increased the total charging minutes (and cost) needed to make this trip.
Real world scenario you would never charge close to 0% because if the charging stations dont work you need energy to go to next place. You should charge around 15-20% up to 80% to save on battery life and be sure you dont strand yourself.
Its the same for fossil cars but the thing there is we have fuel stations exactly everywhere which is why we can drive to red line (5-10L left).
I just saw your video. I live in Canada and Hyundai has had a lot of problems with their deliveries. I waited 25 months for an ioniq5 that never came. I finally bought a Tesla Y when they lowered the price last month. The Y was then cheaper than ioniq5. I don’t regret my choice. I really love my MY. I love how easy it is to travel with a Tesla. It’s worry less.
Nice reviews! I drove a 2021 Model Y for about 10 days and out over 900miles. I drove normally like I would in my own car (I like speed) and managed to average between 3.82 and 4.14 miles per kWh. I was quite impressed with the Teslas efficiency despite my lead foot and testing out that roller coaster type acceleration and ride in back up and down hilly roads (clear visibility, empty and within approx speed limits ). Totally love the car and want one. Coming from a Mercedes GLE coupe owner.
just ordered a Model Y blue with white interior, I am going to call it Why Blue
Gute Arbeit. Danke
Fascinating Richard and Gints, thanks. Design aside, it looks like the mainstream manufacturers still have a long way to go to match Tesla's which seems to be about 20% more efficient than other EVs.
tesla isn’t as efficient as they claim though…
@@hardywoodaway9912 Are you just repeating the Edmunds BS?
"Doesn't match EPA range (but we also didn't test down to crawling like the EPA procedure does, pure coincidence that the efficiency DOES match EPA, just range is less...)".
maybe in the next generation. They also caught up with Tesla's charging network in the US th-cam.com/video/fFQZhR-PRVo/w-d-xo.html
But £10k more expensive to save 8 mins on a charge? The RWD only ioniq is a good bit more efficient too
@@NO3V : Tesla is notorious for inflating their performance and range figures -- Hyundai/Kia are opposite.
Great video. Would recommend sticking in an OBD device to monitor temperature. My etron the other day wouldn't get above 15°c in similar conditions, similar journey. That would be enough to limit the charge speed on the Ioniq.
Great video.
Excellent review! Real world study… I’m picking up my model y LR end of June. How do I get those 1000 free super charge miles?
Great video as usual keep the content coming. Loving the Tesla model y tests and reviews. Don’t suppose yours has the 4680 battery cells for this test? 😁
Almost certainly not as a) they only come from Austin and are only sold in the US and b) Austin are not making RHD models anyway.
Not one Y LR has those batteries.
Nice one Richard 👍🏼 👌 👏
You can move the rear seat bench forward in IONIQ 5 for more room in the trunk. It's not a big difference vs Model Y and actually more adjustable for your use.
True, certified 11 bananaboxes storage room vs 9+1 in the froot for the Y. 😁
True, seats slide quite a bit forward too.
Not only movable. Also you can change the angle of the rearseats backrest more upright....
About charging ionqiq 5 on a colder day....the second charging session is a lot quicker than the first because starting temp from the accu is better.
Great content thank you.. Had my eye on the top speck IONIQ 5 and it’s Hyundai for me on my next car.. Which will be soon as a currently don’t have one.
Thanks. (and I've just given my diesel Q7 a little hug)
Interesting - & v informative 😃👍
Great Video. We have a Model Y and just completed a 3000mile European tour and the bit you missed out here is the absolute simplicity and reliability of the charging network. The storage of the boot, lower boot and frunk is also superb. Which make it a great car for this type of trip. We need more chargers off the motorway network in the UK as they are at hotels and supermarkets in Europe. We did 1000miles in one day on the way home and it worked a treat. Just wish the suspension was a little softer.
Indeed in continental Europe Tesla are often avoiding Tesla chargers on their long journey because they aren't located on the motorways.
Excellent video. This tallies exactly with my P45 ownership regards range & efficiency overall (Just about good enough but disappointing) and charging speeds. (It only hits 200kW+ speeds in HOT weather. Eg 20 degC+. And bizarrely even after 3 hours at motorway speeds does not seem to get any heat in to the battery to get those advertised rates (I always use Ionity). Apparently will get a software update which will link charging destination in sat nav and pre-heating the battery like Tesla. But Tesla a much better long distance vehicle, as efficiency is excellent and range plenty good enough. MM
My MY promises a real world range of 540km. I can actually beat that. It’s an incredible piece of kit.
Love the ioniq 5. Seriously considering it for my next 2nd hand purchase 😊
Given the tweaks Tesla has made to the old 1860 batteries used in the current S/X I’m sure with a future update the 2170’s will gain even more capability. But Tesla is the efficiency king. The Heat Pump and Octovalve are game changers.
Tesla kills the opposition by making design compromise for aerodynamic that legacy Auto are not willing to make. The faster the speed test the better Tesla perform in comparison.
also seems like Tesla have an edge on motor efficiency, especially on dual motor variants.
That lane assist - almost as if they forgot it was RH drive just for the “recovery” bit!
Good comparison. However, with all of the fit and finish complaints on the Y and since I don’t plan to do long trips as in this video, I’d go with the Ioniq. I’m just glad to see the electric cars are really taking off.
Thanks for the very informative video. Which one would you say is quieter and more refined for a long motorway journey
Both quiet. Hyundai the more comfortable.
New subscriber here as I really want a Tesla model Y . I have always loved the ionic 5 . For me the best looking EV is the ionic 5 - it’s gorgeous, but would much rather own a Tesla
Great video!
Would be great to see some typ of speculation of future-proof cars, which could relate to future value.
ie. you can add Tesla autopilot once it becomes legal, Tesla sending updates to your car etc.
Thanks! Fyi You can go on your Tesla app and upgrade the software such as autopilot at any time. Takes seconds and then is active on the car. They have it nailed
EXCELLENT video, great real world testing and results. As a conclusion: You don't fail by taking any of those two cars, they are perfectly capable for close to 100% of imaginable use. Maybe Caravaning my not be the most suitable. Love your TRANSPARENCY!
Hihi. Nice reading. I like it.
Technically it is "you don't fail with any of them but the Ioniq gets you a bit closer to failing", I guess.
And with 10 degree less outside temperature the Ioniq might very well have felt like a huge failure.
@@NO3V Hi, thanks for the correction. i am not a native speaker, have not used my English a lot lately. However, looks you got my intention right. The problem of the Ioniq with 10 degree less may not be a bigger problem in the UK; here in Germany we may have lesser temperatures more often. I expect Hyundai to provide for a solution for the Colgate problem soon. Don't you think so?
@@Bessunger We have plenty of colder months November to March will not be kind to EV's even in the UK reason I wont buy one yet.
@@davidlewis4399 we have been driving the ZOE for 6 years now, last year we got the recent model. I can assure you, it is working. Due to the positive experience I have ordered a BEV and will then sell our last ICE car. It is easier to live with a BEV than you think.
@@davidlewis4399 It's perfectly fine, I've done >300km trips in near 0 temperatures. Remember, anyone with home charging leaves with the battery full and the car/batt fully heated up. Stopping for 10 to 20 mins for a hot beverage/bathroom break every 200 - 250 ish kms is a good idea anyway.
Your acceleration test at 7:00, was that done in ECO mode? Normal or Sport mode makes a huge difference.
Great video.
Much as I'd like an EV, at the moment they are just too expensive.
We are very fortunate to have just taken possession of a model Y a few weeks ago. We had to do a 300 mile round trip to Eastbourne and it got there and back without issue. We did stop to supercharge to be on the safe side. But I worked out we would have got home with around 5% left having 100% before heading out. We did motorway speeds there but had a more leisurely return. I think the ionic 5 looks wonderful but I would still have the Tesla because of their supercharger network. Another observation is 15,000 Teslas were sold in the UK in March alone and I wonder how many ionic 5 will land in Britain for eager buyers to snap up? Anyone making EVs needs to make for more of them!
When you do these range & charging tests, adding a "miles added per hour" graph / section (think you did one in m3p Vs taycan) would be really useful.. it's the most relevant function of recharging
No, it isn't. Because miles added per hour is relevant to your driving. It can be 100 miles in the dead winter at highway speeds of 100mph in Germany or 400 miles in summer in slow English or Norwegian roads. So no, it isn't useful at all. Only useful metric is avg. charging speed in kW (for let's say 10-60%, 10-70%, 10-80%)
+ kWh/m(kWh/km) at speed X... Then you can do your own math...
@@marcusbiller867 for head to head charge speed "races" on cars with different sized batteries and different efficiencies, with a method of charging most likely to be used for motorway driving (the efficiencies of which will be known from the "race" they are doing)... I would argue "miles added per hour" is extremely useful, particularly as most people will want to know how long they need to wait around to complete their journey
@@ozboz1995 "how long will they need for journey": And exactly this information they will never have as the test will never ever match their driving consumption on that particular day they will be driving. Sorry, but no matter how you turn your arguments, they are still wrong... You will still have to use a bit of 2nd grade math and use avg kW speed and your current consumption. Or get a Tesla and it will calculate it for you...
@@marcusbiller867 yes, but it is a *comparison*, between two cars on the same day in the same conditions. So comparing the range they can add per time is information that most people want, particularly when *comparing* cars, charging, and efficiency..
@@ozboz1995 no it is not a comparison. It is a comparison of a moment... This information is irrelevant if they travel at higher speeds, at lower speeds, if the outside temp is 5 degrees warmer etc. Like I said, you should really give up, you are digging your own hole deeper and deeper bz continuing...
Thank you :)
Does the Ionic 5 have battery pre conditioning in Europe? It does not in the US.
Fantastic real world comparison. I look forward to my EV6 when it is available in 2035.
Interesting and objective as always…I recently did 644 miles in a day through France back to UK in my Ioniq 5 RWD Ultimate - only added 50 minutes to the journey time that my ICE took using Ionity Chargers. The Ioniq5 does not currently have Battery pre-heat for charging but 🤞 that when (if) OTA updates arrive soon in the UK this may be available to those of us with the optional (standard for MY23) Battery heater.
Crossing 550 miles in France in my eTron 55 took 88 minutes of charging mostly at Ionity stations. The eTron holds its max rate of 150kwh all the way to 80%, one of the best cars of its generation (2019 release). Amazing how much better the Hyundai E-GMP cars are, but I was expecting them to be more efficient considering how good the original Ioniq and Kona are.
Bigger battery in the Tsla versus charging speed?
Did you alternate who was in front, Ginst likes to follow, to get the slip stream lol
As predicted, the Ioniq5 let down by its lack of comparative efficiency, but still a lot better than an Audi!
I believe Kia/Hyundai are adding a battery preheat function button, when you're heading toward a charger, in a future update.
Anyway, you've made your Telsa fanbase happy! :)
IMO it was a fair comparison, so if the Tesla fans are happy, it's just based on the facts. ;)
Great video and I like both cars, but not really a real world test as Ultra fast chargers are a little thin on the ground, and my guess is that a similar distance say from the NW to Stansted might have the Hyundai hanging around a little longer. Disclaimer, I’ve no idea what I’m talking about and have no experience of EV cars, soz. 🙈
Interesting as I’ve never thought about the fact the Tesla is more efficient so needs less charging time ….good one !
Tesla appears to have a better user interface and map too. Possibly due to OTA updates as the Hyundai didn’t have the charging station on the map.
@@josephj6521 : the Ioniq 5 has better nhv, comfort, 800v, v2l, but the Y is more efficient.
@@tooltalk I couldn't live with the ugliness of the Ioniq 5
@@sargfowler9603 : same here. I couldn't stand Tesla's ugly look, or their faux Swedish empty interior. That touch-only screen is abomination.
@@tooltalk 800V isn't really adding anything though, if the Y is more performant and needs less time to charge on its 400V system. The only + I see for the Ioniq is the power outlet.
I am really curious how the Vision-S will come into play from the Sony - Honda venture and heat this competition even more.
Your Hyundai number match mine given the temps and driving style.
Excellent video again! I own a Model 3 Long Range Tesla and have a Model Y Performance on order. I had seen some very stong reviews of the Ioniq 5 and actually leaned towards expecting it to do maybe a bit better than the Tesla. Glad to find I was wrong. As both an owner and a stock holder in Tesla, I am very supportive of the brand. Always interested to check out the competition though. Thanks again!
I still think the Ioniq 5 is the best looking BEV for sensible money. Not to mention being £10k cheaper than the Model Y. The N version will be awesome with 577hp..👍👍
Sorry, it's ugly as sin!
Hyundai 🤢
i fear that the ioniq design will age as bad as Citroen Cactus. It was wow at first sight, but now when you look at the details it just look weird.
Must have been the same day as the cupra born press day. I saw it on petrol Peds channel.
Thank you very informative. I chose the ioniq 5 instead of Y for its best of breed charging speed AND unique beautiful look. More : I don't find Tesla cars pretty except Model S. Nevertheless I do recognize that Tesla is the king in efficiency, but not speed of charge.
So Tesla better at not damaging it's batteries
@@alanrickett2537 actually it has been verified that high current DC charging is not affecting battery life anymore as it used to be. So personally, because I regularly commute 120 miles, high speed charging is the most important factor. And there Tesla has improvements to make. A Tesla typically charges from 20 to 80 in more than 30-40 min, and Ioniq 5 in less than 20min. It's a significant difference. I am 100% convinced that Elon will remedy this in next Tesla versions.
All the industry will move to 800V charging in near future for the high end segment first (price > 50k USD)
@@FrancisdeBriey mmm not sure I believe some one changed the laws of physics , any charging of any battery damages it the lower the speed and the closer it is to 50 percent SOC the more the damage is reduced but there is still damage.
@@alanrickett2537 yes but we talk about 2 or 3% over the lifespan of the battery.
@@FrancisdeBriey also just check the 20 to 80 percent charging time on the model 3 it's 20 to 30 minutes on 150 kw charge the times you give is for a 50kw charger
Cool video, but here in Canada the comparison would be between the a loaded Ioniq 5 and a M3 RWD since price wise the Ioniq 5 is a grand cheaper and 20 grand cheaper then LR MY. So there no contest when it come to value for money and you get a great car. Would like to see you test the Ioniq 5 in warmer weather and the new software with preheating on the way later this year hopefully. Enjoy the videos keep them coming. 👍👍
Thanks for compliments. 20k price difference.. wow.
M3 standard is ridiculously efficient. Brilliant cars with LFP battery.
But if you need space, it has to be the Hyundai…
Interesting video. The issue with the lane assist would put me off, other tests have pointed out the tendency of the Ioniq 5 to ping pong in the lane. I find lane assist to be invasive, I have had it on my last 3 cars and have to turn it off, trying to read a bad road surface as a white line and drive you in the wrong direction, usually towards the oncoming traffic! Shame the new Ioniq is not as efficient as it's predecessor!!
Excellent vidéo showing why the teslas efficiency is so important. My model 3 standard range LFP is getting over 4 miles per KW at motorway speeds and even though it does not charge quite as fast as these cars you don’t stop for long as the battery is comparatively small. I don’t think EVS need 300+ mile range, they just need to be efficient like the teslas and you stop every 2-3 hours for a very quick charge.
Great video. TESLA FOR LIFE!
Great video, but not sure why charge the Tesla to 90% when all it needed 80% to get back. The Hyundai needed indeed 90% to get back. That’s the beauty of having an efficient car : it doesn’t need the same state of charge to cover the same distance as an inefficient car like Hyundai Ioniq 5 or Mach-E or … the list goes on.
Very interesting that the satnav didn't pick up the Gridserve Forecourt. I had the same issue in my Mercedes EQV. Caused quite a lot of additional stress on a family journey. Mercedes use Here maps as their base maps which seem to be much less frequently updated than google maps. For example I regularly go to a business that moved three years ago and Here maps takes me to the old location.
I've got the Ioniq 5 LR RWD version, but I'm not afraid to say the Tesla Model Y is the better car: bigger/roomier, more efficient, better software. But it was not available to order when I put in the order for the Ioniq 5, and I needed a new car. Also, in the cheapest version (but with enhanced Autopilot and a trailer hitch) it costs €14,000 more... Great that we have some good options now. As for long distance trips, the Ioniq 5 works out brilliantly too. Charge times are shorter than what we need to pee and grab a coffee...
The gist of it is that there's barely any difference, what the Ioniq5 lacks in efficiency it makes up for in charging speed. This test was done on a mostly theoretical basis. So if i could add on to that, with the following arguments:
1. The Teslas extended range will only matter if there is a supercharger somewhere within the extended range. I.E. the tesla might have to stop on the same charging spot regardless.
2. If both cars are able to reach the desired charging location, regardless of the Teslas efficiency, they will be more or less equal in overall time spent, again due to the charging.
3. Based on the efficiency numbers of this test, i've calculated the Ioniq 5 to realisticly have to use 19 minutes and 42 seconds to charge enough to get back home. And the Tesla to have to use 19 minutes and 18 seconds to charge enough to get back home. So The tesla is faster, but not buy much.
4. Taking a best case theoretical approach, this changes more in favor of the Tesla, with it needing 9 minutes and 36 seconds, and the Ioniq5 needing 15 minutes and 6 seconds. But even then, a difference of 6 minutes on an almost 6 hour trip.. it doesn't matter. Even if it was 20-30 minutes i would argue that it didn't matter.
5. IN ABRP we trust:
Southampton - Glasgow -> 426 miles
Tesla model Y - 7H 05M, time spent charging: 37M
Ioniq 5 - 7H 18M, time spent charging: 42M
Oslo - Bodo -> 741 miles
Tesla Model Y - 16H 36M, time spent charging 1H2M
Ioniq 5 - 16H 38M, time spent charging 1H3M
I got the opposite impression, almost 100km longer range is massive, and it means I’ll almost never need to charge on my frequent trips, and can even do a return trip with no problem on most routes. This makes a massive difference for me. On really long trips charging speed becomes more important, but I’d rather fly those distances.
This video shows the complexity in evs. You can’t point at one number. It’s so much more. On car is more efficient the other car charges faster but can’t take as fare for each charge. For it is the combination of the two that’s important. Good charging speed (preferably preheating) and good efficiency that cary you along way before the need of charging.
I’m looking forward too we see the range of a lucid and the charging speed of a porches. That feature comes and hopefully not only at the very expensive cars.
Was hoping to see both cars charging from Gridserve.
Did you tint the Tesla windows or is that how dark they are when you buy a Y? I’m thinking about getting the blue long range Y
Standard rear tints on a Y 👍
Had exactly the same with the Ioniq HDA - it appears to do it at erm higher speeds :D
When are you going to do a comparison between the Tesla Model S AWD LR and the Mercedes EQE 53AMG 4Matic+?
Just to confirm, how would I work out the equivalent cost of fuel, I have the kWh and the average watt hours in the Tesla what is the equation?
TYI
Very nice and realistic test. More useful than checking if car really makes 0-100 in 3.3 seconds (although this is fun). Both great cars, but i see the big win point with Tesla because of integration with the supercharger network. And, although it is a detail: the tesla tends to let you run down the battery somewhat further before it leads you to a SuperCharger, so that the SuC charging is quicker. But as said: both impressive cars.
Good evening mate 👍
Evening Mr Mawson 👋🏻
The Tesla super charger network is the main deciding factor
Is it really? Today, there are much more fast charging stations available than Tesla ones. That changed a lot on the last months and years. As of today, it is actually not much of a benefit anymore as it was when teslas chargers were often the only ones available
Ive driven them both and is say the Ioniq5 is more relaxing to drive, mainly because of way better sound insulation that and the price difference made me buy a Ioniq had it for 8months now and have not regretted it for a sec.
The problem in America the CCS chargers are few and fewer in Cold States! We need much more CCS chargers Colder States!
Legally, here in the UK, speedos can over-read by up to 10% but not under-read at all. Thus a speedo could indicate 77 mph when the car was really doing 70 mph. I believe that in practice they are usually better than that! They are however likely to over read by a few mph simply to avoid any risk of under reading which would breach our Construction and Use regulations and could cause significant problems for the manufacturer.
Interested to see which has the better use of the battery size. Tesla having a larger battery will always offer longer distance and end on a higher battery % but which has utilised the capacity better