Hey man. Thanks for the great video. I used to own this amp and just recently traded it in for the 110th anniversary edition. Honestly, I believe it deserves more credit than what you give it! For one, the build quality is top notch, way higher than a $1600 unit. The tone controls are not on the remote? For sure, they are potentiometers. Did you want 3 more motors for the knobs? For the DAC, you need to be fair too. This is a $1600 amp; how much you expected to go in the DAC? I guess $50 to $100 is fair, and I personally found it on par with Schiit modi I own. For sure a $3000 DAC is superior! I cannot think of any other amp below $2000 that has tone control which I would pick/recommend over this model. The sound quality is really great. Very open and balance. It is Made in Japan which helps it keep the value too.
Thanks for you comments and for subscribing to help the channel. Its definitely a great unit for the price if it matches your speakers well. And you are right, it is built very well, and its heft shows how well it is built. But, it was too cold and analytical for my speakers, and the Gold Note PA10 was just a better, more musical amplifier for similar money (for my speakers specifically); but that unit isn't an integrated, so one does lose out on the features that you get in the case of the integrated Denon. I'll go back and watch the video again, but I think I was pretty fair actually, and I stand by my reviews, as I put a lot of thought and effort into them. I'd invite you to re-watch it as well with that, and the following information in mind. A Topping D30 and some other budget DAC models were MUCH better than the included DAC, and the tone controls were necessary with the included DAC for sure (but wouldn't be necessary if the DAC were better), and as you noted they do work well. I also am not a huge fan of the Schiit Modi either, as there are much better DACs for the price. And yes, I would have liked the tone controls to be motorized like the volume control, or digitally stepped... as I did wish to adjust them more than "set it and forget it." But like I also said, the phono section is great, and I did consider keeping it for both that feature, and its power. I'm not sure, how much more fair I could be than that? I really wasn't overly critical I don't think. Sorry if you felt I was. Hope you enjoy the unit you swapped it out for. I hear it's even better. I hope to check it out one day.
@@intoitreviews No worries. I am not trying to play the advocate for the unit (or any other model). My only worry was people thinking it is not good enough for the money. To me it really is. I have not heard every single model, and we do not all agree on different amps/speakers. Otherwise, who doesn't believe something better (for any of us) is always around the corner. And with regards to the A110, I really LOVE it! But hey, that one is more than double the price; it has to be much better ;)
I agree with Emil, this amp is a gem, I have been using the UK version of this amp with PCM 1795 DAC for about 8 Months now, it sounded unspectacular right out of the box and needed 2-3 days use before it gave it's best. Personally I find the DAC to be excellent, not thin and lacking in bass as you mention, but warm and full of life, with great stereo separation and well balanced across the frequency spectrum, the amp is super clean and airy, very Hi Res while being creamy smooth with low end and punch, it doesn't particularly play well at low volumes where the sound is a tad boring, but turn the wick up and WOW it really comes to life, punching you in the chest but still remaining composed no matter how loud you go (no nasty treble here even when at nearly full output unlike my last 3 amplifiers) it's easily capable of giving the neighbors a very bad day (I swear this thing is outputting way more than 70W per ch) Switching out the digital circuit makes it sound buttery smooth and even warmer, great for Vinyl and other analogue RCA inputs if you want it. Main niggle is the very sensitive volume control when using remote, and it's a shame the remote doesn't allow you to turn on and off source direct, that has to be done on the amp. A subwoofer out and pre line outs would have also been nice, but for a 1200 quid amp with a decent 32 bit DAC I am very happy with it. It's surprising heavy as well at just under 40lbs and I read somewhere it took on 3 or 4 other good amps like Hegel, Yamaha & NAD and come out on top and was the reviewers favorite. This in fact was the only amp I tried apart from an Arcam SA20 that tamed the tweeters on my Monitor Audio Silver 300's and made them integrate well with the music (tried Naim, Musical Fidelity, Audio Lab and Rega) It will be a keeper for a while yet.
Thanks for your paragraph. But, the UK versions of the Denon are often different, which is a possibility I alluded too in the video, and likely the case here. I hope you payed attention to the video, and understand that. Also, your ears may have adjusted, or it could be a difference with your particular speakers/setup. I test numerous speakers and combinations of particular gear for specific reasons and purpose, across a number of weeks, and generally I am talking about the performance envelope of a product in a review and not specific outcomes. And, I hate to say it, because I don't let other reviews influence mine, but if you do check out other reviews of this product, I am not the only one say the DAC has issues, and this is evidence of this before, and after, my review. So, in this particular case, there is actually some consistency there for other consumers to follow. Your experience may vary, but it doesn't mean a product performs a certain way, even if you "disagree," for whatever reason. Just "food for thought" for you, and everyone really. But, I'm glad you enjoy your amplifier, as that is what is most important, in the end; is it not?
I have the pma1600ne, and yes, this reviewer does not give the amp enough credit. About the DAC, in this amp the DAC takes a long time to break in and it is VERY GOOD! I can afford just about any DAC that I want to buy, and the internal DAC in the pma1600 is so good that I will not bother looking elsewhere.
Thanks for the review, because of your review I bought this amp and love it . On the DAC issue the DAC on the matching CD player is far superior. And I don’t stream music . I have always bought av receivers and this is my first integrated amp .
Yeah great point, I didn't get the matching piece, but I have heard that's the case. Great to know! Thanks for being a part of the Neighborhood and subscribing to the channel. Enjoy the music with your new amp!
@@intoitreviews DAC chip is the only %30 of the job, implementation makes big difference .Same DAC chip with good power supply, pre amp implementation on a seperate deck system will be much better than same DAC chip onboard of an amplifier.
I have this amp.. I gotta say I agree that he tone is flat and the tone adjustments make up for that.. it has a lot of power , My source is the DCD 1600 NE SACD and sound with Musician Knight One. What would be a good DAC match for this amp?
There are lots of good options depending on price. My favorite DAC atm would the konus digitale series as great pricier options. Next step down might be looking at the RME ADI-2, but there also many other dacs that could work. I got better performance from a topping d30 than the integrated DAC, but I'd probably look next at a iFi micro idsd as an option if you are okay with single ended performance only (those are about $600ish, and have a muscle car like performance/would likely match well depending on your speakers). Hope that helps and thanks for supporting the channel by subscribing!
I find your opinion of the built in DAC in the PMA1600NE a little puzzling, I have this unit, a UK edition, and I find the DAC very reasonable, not thin and piercing as you describe but full rich very sweet and quite airy. I've had a few amps with built in DAC's including Audiolab 6000 (Sabre ES9018) and Cambridge CX60 (Wolfson WM8740) the Wolfson in the Cambridge is a little more neutral and open sounding compared with the Denon but less smooth and less full, I found the Audiolab's implementation of the Sabre DAC nothing special and actually inferior to the Denon.
@@zbojtdifnmj The Denon is more transparent, better clarity, wider soundstage, more powerful sounding and more control when the wick is turned up, CX60 was more detailed at lower volumes tho, but too bright at higher volumes.
I went from this Amp to a Schiit Ragnarok 2.... And then back to the Denon pma 1600ne. I absolutely love this amp and the midrange it produces along with the abundance of power. I typically don't use the cheap onboard dacs with most intergrated unless I'm in a pinch and I like the addition of the pure analog mode. With my Schiit Yggy and Kef R series speakees the synergy is unreal! Glad to see some coverage on it, Keep up the good work!
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Thanks a lot for your video. I am looking for amp to dali opticon 6. I found cheap denon 2000 ae( from 2006) . Is it abig different compering with New denon models f ex denon 1600 ne?
Depends on price point. At that priçe it's hard to beat the RME Adi2. Gold Note DS-10 is my personal DAC of choice, but higher price. The Konus Audio Digitale series only does 16/44.1, but sounds amazing. If you want more of an analog flavor I really did enjoy the iFi neo streamer/DAC, close in price to the Gustard. If something else comes to mind, l will let you know. I'm using a FiiO R7 upstairs right now, it's ok... Better than the Denon, but I think one would need to get the power supply for it to get the most out of it. I likely won't recommend it without it... And I'm having a hard time sourcing one... It sounds pretty good... Almost there, but not quite. Power supply might fix it...?
@@intoitreviews thank you for such rapid answer. Generally speaking, this Denon should be paired with warmer sounding dac like Gustard R26 for example or just opposite ?
It's all gonna depend on your system as a whole, but yeah generally speaking, something with a touch of mellowness (amount of warmth needed will vary based on preference) that still extends well would be what I would look for. The ADI 2 will be the most neutral, followed by gold note, followed by konus, followed by the iFi. I don't tend to rec overly warm Dacs, but I also hear good things about the ef400 from HIFIMAN as a dac (it's limited somewhat and I don't like he headphone output as much). I also liked the iFi micro signature as a dac out and it was decently warm and beefy (might not have enough liquidity for the Denon though). The Diablo is kind of in between the iFi signature and the neo. Just so you know, my topping d30 which is around $100 outperformed the internal dac considerably.
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oh wow i have the older model of this in storage, a pma1500r was a solid amp but i need to replace a speaker relay. i priced up one of these but they're close to 6k where i live.
I just to have Denon AVR2400 for years 1996-97 and those europeans unit was beasts and they work flawlessy today it was first literation for 5.1 digital and it sounded so dynamic and texture with OR-210hi 2-way speaker OR stands from (Olavi Räsänen) and i got whole setup with OR:s but activesubwoofer was mighty Pioneer 12" the Denon costed then if i calculated todays € = around 750€ for black friday sale! And i love it to death! But im very interested what they sound today but i have looked inside and todays they are not so so discrete and not so so heavy :D
You can buy his older brother the PMA 1520ae for 400 euro and a lot cheaper then this one with the same specs and the 1600 does have a dac but a mediocre one.
Either would be fine. I replaced my pma 1600 ne with a gold note pa10, love the tones a bit more. Check out gestalt audio design. They can get you either. Thanks for subscribing to the channel!
I have no idea what u were doing with the dac in this amp, but the dac is outstanding. It does take a while to break the digital section in on this amp.
I had it for a number of months with hundreds of hours of burn in on the dac and the amp, but who knows... perhaps it needed more time. I'm also sure on a less revealing set of speakers it might also be fine. I tend to be more picky than most as well, but I'm also not the only one to point out the DAC as the deficit of this amp- if you look at other reviews there is a consensus. Thanks for subscribing to support the channel Cameron.
I‘m actually looking for a new amp and the denon was my first choice. But I don’t know if i should get this one or a used older denon amp, because you can get a used top of the line model from older generationn for less than 600€.
@@juliangst Find a shop that sells used gear that they serviced or refurbished themselves. See the people, talk to them, then you'll know if you can trust them. If they love what they do, they will not rip you off. It's not the cheapest option, you'll have to pay for the servicing or refurbisment effort. But you could make a fresh start with reliable used gear.
I no longer have the unit or the manual. Assuming it doubles from 4 to 8, 105 watts sounds likely. I'd think 100ish. Thanks for subscribing to the channel! This really help, and makes it possible for me to keep making excellent content like this.
You'll have to use a high level input from your subwoofer from the Speaker B post. The Recorder out is a "fixed" output so it will not work as a "preout" to control the volume of the subwoofer. High level input is better for intergration anyways if your subwoofer has that connection.
Thujan is correct, I was mistaken. There is no dedicated sub out, so you would need to use line-level inputs on your sub. Which is less of a big deal when you get used to it.
I haven't tried that particular pairing, but I would think it would do quite well with that Timbre of a speaker. I would just recommend using a different DAC.
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Thanks for the overview of the pma1600ae
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Good job describing this unit. You were easy to understand. Thanks.
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Hey man. Thanks for the great video.
I used to own this amp and just recently traded it in for the 110th anniversary edition. Honestly, I believe it deserves more credit than what you give it! For one, the build quality is top notch, way higher than a $1600 unit. The tone controls are not on the remote? For sure, they are potentiometers. Did you want 3 more motors for the knobs?
For the DAC, you need to be fair too. This is a $1600 amp; how much you expected to go in the DAC? I guess $50 to $100 is fair, and I personally found it on par with Schiit modi I own. For sure a $3000 DAC is superior!
I cannot think of any other amp below $2000 that has tone control which I would pick/recommend over this model. The sound quality is really great. Very open and balance. It is Made in Japan which helps it keep the value too.
Thanks for you comments and for subscribing to help the channel. Its definitely a great unit for the price if it matches your speakers well. And you are right, it is built very well, and its heft shows how well it is built. But, it was too cold and analytical for my speakers, and the Gold Note PA10 was just a better, more musical amplifier for similar money (for my speakers specifically); but that unit isn't an integrated, so one does lose out on the features that you get in the case of the integrated Denon. I'll go back and watch the video again, but I think I was pretty fair actually, and I stand by my reviews, as I put a lot of thought and effort into them. I'd invite you to re-watch it as well with that, and the following information in mind. A Topping D30 and some other budget DAC models were MUCH better than the included DAC, and the tone controls were necessary with the included DAC for sure (but wouldn't be necessary if the DAC were better), and as you noted they do work well. I also am not a huge fan of the Schiit Modi either, as there are much better DACs for the price. And yes, I would have liked the tone controls to be motorized like the volume control, or digitally stepped... as I did wish to adjust them more than "set it and forget it." But like I also said, the phono section is great, and I did consider keeping it for both that feature, and its power. I'm not sure, how much more fair I could be than that? I really wasn't overly critical I don't think. Sorry if you felt I was. Hope you enjoy the unit you swapped it out for. I hear it's even better. I hope to check it out one day.
@@intoitreviews No worries. I am not trying to play the advocate for the unit (or any other model). My only worry was people thinking it is not good enough for the money. To me it really is. I have not heard every single model, and we do not all agree on different amps/speakers.
Otherwise, who doesn't believe something better (for any of us) is always around the corner.
And with regards to the A110, I really LOVE it! But hey, that one is more than double the price; it has to be much better ;)
I agree with Emil, this amp is a gem, I have been using the UK version of this amp with PCM 1795 DAC for about 8 Months now, it sounded unspectacular right out of the box and needed 2-3 days use before it gave it's best.
Personally I find the DAC to be excellent, not thin and lacking in bass as you mention, but warm and full of life, with great stereo separation and well balanced across the frequency spectrum, the amp is super clean and airy, very Hi Res while being creamy smooth with low end and punch, it doesn't particularly play well at low volumes where the sound is a tad boring, but turn the wick up and WOW it really comes to life, punching you in the chest but still remaining composed no matter how loud you go (no nasty treble here even when at nearly full output unlike my last 3 amplifiers) it's easily capable of giving the neighbors a very bad day (I swear this thing is outputting way more than 70W per ch) Switching out the digital circuit makes it sound buttery smooth and even warmer, great for Vinyl and other analogue RCA inputs if you want it. Main niggle is the very sensitive volume control when using remote, and it's a shame the remote doesn't allow you to turn on and off source direct, that has to be done on the amp. A subwoofer out and pre line outs would have also been nice, but for a 1200 quid amp with a decent 32 bit DAC I am very happy with it. It's surprising heavy as well at just under 40lbs and I read somewhere it took on 3 or 4 other good amps like Hegel, Yamaha & NAD and come out on top and was the reviewers favorite. This in fact was the only amp I tried apart from an Arcam SA20 that tamed the tweeters on my Monitor Audio Silver 300's and made them integrate well with the music (tried Naim, Musical Fidelity, Audio Lab and Rega) It will be a keeper for a while yet.
Thanks for your paragraph. But, the UK versions of the Denon are often different, which is a possibility I alluded too in the video, and likely the case here. I hope you payed attention to the video, and understand that. Also, your ears may have adjusted, or it could be a difference with your particular speakers/setup. I test numerous speakers and combinations of particular gear for specific reasons and purpose, across a number of weeks, and generally I am talking about the performance envelope of a product in a review and not specific outcomes. And, I hate to say it, because I don't let other reviews influence mine, but if you do check out other reviews of this product, I am not the only one say the DAC has issues, and this is evidence of this before, and after, my review. So, in this particular case, there is actually some consistency there for other consumers to follow. Your experience may vary, but it doesn't mean a product performs a certain way, even if you "disagree," for whatever reason. Just "food for thought" for you, and everyone really. But, I'm glad you enjoy your amplifier, as that is what is most important, in the end; is it not?
I have the pma1600ne, and yes, this reviewer does not give the amp enough credit. About the DAC, in this amp the DAC takes a long time to break in and it is VERY GOOD! I can afford just about any DAC that I want to buy, and the internal DAC in the pma1600 is so good that I will not bother looking elsewhere.
Thanks for the review, because of your review I bought this amp and love it . On the DAC issue the DAC on the matching CD player is far superior. And I don’t stream music . I have always bought av receivers and this is my first integrated amp .
Yeah great point, I didn't get the matching piece, but I have heard that's the case. Great to know! Thanks for being a part of the Neighborhood and subscribing to the channel. Enjoy the music with your new amp!
the dac in the cd player is identical to the one in the 1600
Bummer, if that is true is must be completely psychological. Mind blown! Fairly sure they're different in the US doh.
@@intoitreviews DAC chip is the only %30 of the job, implementation makes big difference .Same DAC chip with good power supply, pre amp implementation on a seperate deck system will be much better than same DAC chip onboard of an amplifier.
Preaching to the choir. Thanks for your thoughts being a loyal subscriber to the Neighborhood.
I avoided buying this unit years ago because of the humming noise from the transistors.
Thanks for watching and subscribing. I luckily didn't have any of that when I had it. I just wanted a better sound.
I have this amp.. I gotta say I agree that he tone is flat and the tone adjustments make up for that.. it has a lot of power , My source is the DCD 1600 NE SACD and sound with Musician Knight One. What would be a good DAC match for this amp?
There are lots of good options depending on price. My favorite DAC atm would the konus digitale series as great pricier options. Next step down might be looking at the RME ADI-2, but there also many other dacs that could work. I got better performance from a topping d30 than the integrated DAC, but I'd probably look next at a iFi micro idsd as an option if you are okay with single ended performance only (those are about $600ish, and have a muscle car like performance/would likely match well depending on your speakers). Hope that helps and thanks for supporting the channel by subscribing!
Thks!!!@@intoitreviews
I have Polks, Legend L200 4 ohms... Musician Knight one 4ohms... Just purchased Warfedale Evo 4.2 I think those are 4ohms too
I find your opinion of the built in DAC in the PMA1600NE a little puzzling, I have this unit, a UK edition, and I find the DAC very reasonable, not thin and piercing as you describe but full rich very sweet and quite airy. I've had a few amps with built in DAC's including Audiolab 6000 (Sabre ES9018) and Cambridge CX60 (Wolfson WM8740) the Wolfson in the Cambridge is a little more neutral and open sounding compared with the Denon but less smooth and less full, I found the Audiolab's implementation of the Sabre DAC nothing special and actually inferior to the Denon.
Hi! How's the step up from the CXA60 to the PMA1600NE in terms of general audio quality?
A lot.
@@zbojtdifnmj The Denon is more transparent, better clarity, wider soundstage, more powerful sounding and more control when the wick is turned up, CX60 was more detailed at lower volumes tho, but too bright at higher volumes.
Puzzling is an understatement. My findings are exactly as you describe them Mutley.
Also went from cxa60 to denon pma1600ne. Although its in storage waiting for its new space in my new home. Very excited to compare !
How does this compare to the Yamaha a-s801
Yamaha is slightly warmer, thicker note weight, fuzzier... Thanks for subscribing
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Nice video dude,
Dear i have 12 inch JBL 2 speakers,
Which amplifier i should use for the best sound quality with bluetooth and USB facility.
I went from this Amp to a Schiit Ragnarok 2.... And then back to the Denon pma 1600ne. I absolutely love this amp and the midrange it produces along with the abundance of power.
I typically don't use the cheap onboard dacs with most intergrated unless I'm in a pinch and I like the addition of the pure analog mode. With my Schiit Yggy and Kef R series speakees the synergy is unreal!
Glad to see some coverage on it, Keep up the good work!
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Thanks a lot for your video. I am looking for amp to dali opticon 6. I found cheap denon 2000 ae( from 2006) . Is it abig different compering with New denon models f ex denon 1600 ne?
What external dac would you recommend for this Denon? I was thinking of Gustard R26 or Gustard A26. What do you think?
Depends on price point. At that priçe it's hard to beat the RME Adi2. Gold Note DS-10 is my personal DAC of choice, but higher price. The Konus Audio Digitale series only does 16/44.1, but sounds amazing. If you want more of an analog flavor I really did enjoy the iFi neo streamer/DAC, close in price to the Gustard. If something else comes to mind, l will let you know. I'm using a FiiO R7 upstairs right now, it's ok... Better than the Denon, but I think one would need to get the power supply for it to get the most out of it. I likely won't recommend it without it... And I'm having a hard time sourcing one... It sounds pretty good... Almost there, but not quite. Power supply might fix it...?
@@intoitreviews thank you for such rapid answer. Generally speaking, this Denon should be paired with warmer sounding dac like Gustard R26 for example or just opposite ?
It's all gonna depend on your system as a whole, but yeah generally speaking, something with a touch of mellowness (amount of warmth needed will vary based on preference) that still extends well would be what I would look for. The ADI 2 will be the most neutral, followed by gold note, followed by konus, followed by the iFi. I don't tend to rec overly warm Dacs, but I also hear good things about the ef400 from HIFIMAN as a dac (it's limited somewhat and I don't like he headphone output as much). I also liked the iFi micro signature as a dac out and it was decently warm and beefy (might not have enough liquidity for the Denon though). The Diablo is kind of in between the iFi signature and the neo. Just so you know, my topping d30 which is around $100 outperformed the internal dac considerably.
Who made your intro animation? Is awesome
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oh wow i have the older model of this in storage, a pma1500r was a solid amp but i need to replace a speaker relay. i priced up one of these but they're close to 6k where i live.
6k buys you a lot of other amp probably too I guess. Good to seee the 1500r has done you mostly well. Thanks for being a subscriber!
I just to have Denon AVR2400 for years 1996-97 and those europeans unit was beasts and they work flawlessy today it was first literation for 5.1 digital and it sounded so dynamic and texture with OR-210hi 2-way speaker OR stands from (Olavi Räsänen) and i got whole setup with OR:s but activesubwoofer was mighty Pioneer 12" the Denon costed then if i calculated todays € = around 750€ for black friday sale! And i love it to death! But im very interested what they sound today but i have looked inside and todays they are not so so discrete and not so so heavy :D
You can buy his older brother the PMA 1520ae for 400 euro and a lot cheaper then this one with the same specs and the 1600 does have a dac but a mediocre one.
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WOULD KLIPSH HERITAGE SPEAKERS OR OPEN BAFFLE SPEAKERS WITH SENSITIVITY OF 95db ( or higher) BE A GOOD MATCH FOR THE PMA 1600 ?
Either would be fine. I replaced my pma 1600 ne with a gold note pa10, love the tones a bit more. Check out gestalt audio design. They can get you either. Thanks for subscribing to the channel!
@@intoitreviews ty n ty for review.
I have no idea what u were doing with the dac in this amp, but the dac is outstanding. It does take a while to break the digital section in on this amp.
I had it for a number of months with hundreds of hours of burn in on the dac and the amp, but who knows... perhaps it needed more time. I'm also sure on a less revealing set of speakers it might also be fine. I tend to be more picky than most as well, but I'm also not the only one to point out the DAC as the deficit of this amp- if you look at other reviews there is a consensus. Thanks for subscribing to support the channel Cameron.
I'm using AudioQuest Dragonfly v1.2 and sounds better than the DAC of the amp. Not sure why, maybe it's the USB cable?
Inorite? Thanks for subscribing!
When bi-wiring this unit do you just connect wiring and that's it ? I can't see any switch that has speaker A and B ?
Yes
I hesitate in between this one and Cambridge CXA81.Im going to connect one of them with JAMO C97II. Now my question is wich one is beter.
"Better" is subjective, but I'd probably go with the Denon, as I find it more resolving and revealing, albeit leaner... thanks for subscribing...
I‘m actually looking for a new amp and the denon was my first choice. But I don’t know if i should get this one or a used older denon amp, because you can get a used top of the line model from older generationn for less than 600€.
I'd prpbably do that (get the used) unless you want a stark, chemeleon like sound.
@@intoitreviews I never bought used Hi-Fi gear so I’m afraid to get ripped off xD
Always a risk.
@@juliangst Find a shop that sells used gear that they serviced or refurbished themselves. See the people, talk to them, then you'll know if you can trust them. If they love what they do, they will not rip you off. It's not the cheapest option, you'll have to pay for the servicing or refurbisment effort. But you could make a fresh start with reliable used gear.
@@colanitower already ordered a used amp but thanks for the advice
Is it possible to hook up a am/fm tuner to it? I see it does not have a tuner input.
Hey Jeff, thanks for subscribing. You would just use an external radio as a source with an RCA output. Treat it as a dac basically. Hope that helps!
@@intoitreviews Got it, thx's
Have you tried comparing this with the Marantz PM8006 or PM7000N by any chance?
No sorry.
I have a denon pma 800ne and l was thinking to upgrade to 1600ne the question is
Is it really worth it?
It is better, but I'd upgrade even further if I were you. Something like the Konus Audio Integrale 1000 depending on the power you need.
How many watts per channel for 6 ohms?
I no longer have the unit or the manual. Assuming it doubles from 4 to 8, 105 watts sounds likely. I'd think 100ish. Thanks for subscribing to the channel! This really help, and makes it possible for me to keep making excellent content like this.
How did you connect topping d30 dac to the amplifier..is it on analog in on denon??
Yes
Is running a sub with this unit possible? Could I run a powered sub woofer through the "recorder out" on the PMA 1600NE?
You'll have to use a high level input from your subwoofer from the Speaker B post.
The Recorder out is a "fixed" output so it will not work as a "preout" to control the volume of the subwoofer.
High level input is better for intergration anyways if your subwoofer has that connection.
Thujan is correct, I was mistaken. There is no dedicated sub out, so you would need to use line-level inputs on your sub. Which is less of a big deal when you get used to it.
@@ThujanK is it any bad effect-in sound
Hi. Does it match with dynaudio excite x18 speakers?
I haven't tried that particular pairing, but I would think it would do quite well with that Timbre of a speaker. I would just recommend using a different DAC.
It's missing the Preamp IN. Phono useless.
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