This is a real good start, but as an inventor, I've made ( patent applied for ) a check maker for the .223 cal. that not only cuts checks- ( from a beer can or if you want .005 brass stock ) , BUT installs, seats and sizes the bullet and check together.... all in one pull of the press handle. I will post a vid shortly, so keep your eyes peeled to see how it works. I've made at least 100 checked bullets with it so far. Now to load and target test. One die set to cover all operations of bullet making in one pull!
Thats the whole reason I have the shop. My mind is always full of crap that I want to try to make. Some times it is hard to figure out the wheat from the chaff. Thanks for watching my friend.
Good luck with this one. I see it as full of hurdles. Making the die work, then pumping out effective gas checks. Hope you can do it. I think gas checks add too much costs to cast bullets, in my opinion, for most applications. Keep us informed how it works out.
I got a idea for you. It may not work but what the hell. Use a lee bullet sizer of the same caliber as a gas check maker. Or use it as a base blue print of a gas checker maker.. Food for though
saltyshellback just had a series of videos about this. he has a hand die to make them out of aluminum flashing. I have no doubt that it wold work on copper too.
The whole die will be made out of steel. The top and bottom. I will have to figure out where but I am sure there will have to be a couple thou. clearence in some places. I flattened it out to get the dia. of the whole thing.
Looks like a fun project and whether it works or not, it will keep you out of trouble for awhile. LOL The spring pressure will have to be strong enough to punch through the flashing, but give enough to not stretch the material as the flanges are being formed by the plunger (if I understand your drawing right?) If anyone can do it, it'll be you! :)
You understand my drawing! Can you explain it to me? LOL I have already made a few changes to the drawing. By the time I start turning the steel who knows what it will look like. I am finding out that dry erase board is working well for this devolepment stage.
OK, my mistake, I watched again and see your idea. Yes,I use an A-2 tool steel to make punching and forming dies. Then harden and draw back to about 60 to 65 Rockwell. if possible, you may want to invert the whole thing so that your finished parts will just fall out, I'm not sure what you are using as a press. Your theory should work with a little consideration about aligning the top and bottom dies.
That design may not be good.. Using 1 punched slug of a soft material to push another through a forming die will just force them to bind together into 1 solid piece of copper that you won't be able to get apart. Another thing, you shouldn't have to flatten one out to find out the thickness of the material... You probably have a travel indicator with a ball point on it, fit it inside of the outer lip, zero out the indicator on a flat surface and then put the piece you want to measure between.
This is a real good start, but as an inventor, I've made ( patent applied for ) a check maker for the .223 cal. that not only cuts checks- ( from a beer can or if you want .005 brass stock ) , BUT installs, seats and sizes the bullet and check together.... all in one pull of the press handle. I will post a vid shortly, so keep your eyes peeled to see how it works. I've made at least 100 checked bullets with it so far. Now to load and target test. One die set to cover all operations of bullet making in one pull!
Thats the whole reason I have the shop.
My mind is always full of crap that I want to try to make. Some times it is hard to figure out the wheat from the chaff. Thanks for watching my friend.
Where can we acquire a 30 calibre gas check punch?
Interesting project. I couldn't understand how you were going get the check thru the die when you were done with it. Your art work is fantastic.
Good luck,it will be interesting to see the process.
J
Can the spring strong enough to push cut the disk?
Up to $80 per 1000 here in Australia now!
This is a great idea,I dont know if it will work but if it dose it would save some money.
Thanks Tony.
We will see. Thanks for watching.
Good luck with this one. I see it as full of hurdles. Making the die work, then pumping out effective gas checks. Hope you can do it. I think gas checks add too much costs to cast bullets, in my opinion, for most applications. Keep us informed how it works out.
Thanks John
Yea that is why I am trying to make them my self. I want to come up with a way that doesn't take me a lot of time to make them too.
Sounds good. I'm working on a plating machine
I got a idea for you. It may not work but what the hell. Use a lee bullet sizer of the same caliber as a gas check maker.
Or use it as a base blue print of a gas checker maker..
Food for though
Excellent!..keep me in the loop bro...I might be up to buying some..help with development costs..
saltyshellback just had a series of videos about this. he has a hand die to make them out of aluminum flashing. I have no doubt that it wold work on copper too.
You know better then me bro ! give it a shot WTH !
The whole die will be made out of steel. The top and bottom. I will have to figure out where but I am sure there will have to be a couple thou. clearence in some places. I flattened it out to get the dia. of the whole thing.
Looks like a fun project and whether it works or not, it will keep you out of trouble for awhile. LOL The spring pressure will have to be strong enough to punch through the flashing, but give enough to not stretch the material as the flanges are being formed by the plunger (if I understand your drawing right?) If anyone can do it, it'll be you! :)
You understand my drawing! Can you explain it to me? LOL I have already made a few changes to the drawing. By the time I start turning the steel who knows what it will look like. I am finding out that dry erase board is working well for this devolepment stage.
Just have to make sure I can find the correct thickness.
Weather it works or not it will keep me out of trouble and I will be playing in my shop. lol
Buckrun11 did you have success with this, I'm interested in making something for 22 cal gas checks
OK, my mistake, I watched again and see your idea.
Yes,I use an A-2 tool steel to make punching and forming dies. Then harden and draw back to about 60 to 65 Rockwell. if possible, you may want to invert the whole thing so that your finished parts will just fall out, I'm not sure what you are using as a press. Your theory should work with a little consideration about aligning the top and bottom dies.
I make the dies and make the checks from aluminum. Tomsreloading, you tube
No, punch out disk then make the bend
That design may not be good.. Using 1 punched slug of a soft material to push another through a forming die will just force them to bind together into 1 solid piece of copper that you won't be able to get apart. Another thing, you shouldn't have to flatten one out to find out the thickness of the material... You probably have a travel indicator with a ball point on it, fit it inside of the outer lip, zero out the indicator on a flat surface and then put the piece you want to measure between.