I was with you most of the way..but I got good results grinding an oversized cutter to the precise angle and shape of the actual bullet nose. This means 1 cut, one perfectly balanced mold. Great video! It got me started and forced me to practice correct engineering strategy and planning.
Very professionally made. Much better than other youtube homemade bullet mold. I gotta save up some money to buy a mill and a lathe to get it done as nice as you have for my .25 air gun pellets.
MrRaynemaker , To make the grooves here is what is happening . First you bore the hole a little under size . Then you push the cutter into the hole . Now that you have the hole the right depth you use the cross feed and move the cutter sideways to cut the lube grooves . Then you have to center the cutter before you take it from the bore . That is how the grooves are cut .
how do you know how far to move the cross feed? It seems like this is very important, cause even if it is dragged a few thou too much, the bullet produced will be too big.
@@SONOFAZOMBIE2025 better to have the bullet oversized, than under. You swage them through a sizing die to uniform them more (gas always gets caught in the cooling metal, that causes balancing issues, swaging the bullets collapses the pockets and makes them better balanced). Sort by appearance (messed up bullets don't shoot well), Sort by weight (equal mass), and then swage them to uniform them. In any case, you would have to decide that when you design your bullet. Mold making is no different than machining any precision part, you have to have schematics and follow them meticulously, to get a good result.
That's a very clever way to solve the problem of cutting 2 sides the same. I have made very good cutter from low carbon steel that won't take a temper by case hardening with Cherry Red/Kasinte cutting 100 or more parts in Aluminum. For this cutter a file is as fast as a mill if you have a roller jig to file it flat on the lathe. With the filing jig there is only the one set up in the lathe. Very nice work, Gordon
Hi, the mold was made for a rifle with 11.62mm in diameter but this method should work with any caliber. You can also cut the bullet form in half by using a simple hacksaw and file it smooth afterwards. You may need to resharpen the cutter after a few cuts to get a better finish, which can also be done with a file.
The cutter is made from drill rod and the bullet mold itself is made from Aluminium. But you could also use brass and HSS for the cutter. Drill rod or HSS is aviable on Ebay.
undersized the diameter of the cutter the depth of the groove you want to make! Make the holle!! !!move the cutter horizontally to get the finale diameter you wand for your holle
I'm a machinist and a shooter - I examined closely if you notice he moves the tool towards the middle when he withdraws it. Also the tool is 20% smaller than the actual bullet diameter. The procedure is correct as the machinist performs it.
Well done! I think i would also have cut a relief on the back of the cutter to prevent drag and better chip clearing, but you can't argue with results.
After you cut the round mold material in half and Mill it flat it's not perfectly round anymore. Did you have a hard time centering it in the chuck like that?
Have you tried putting a milling cutter in the lathe chuck and setting up your work piece in the tool holder? You can do a surprising amount of milling work in a lathe if you can get your head around the set up with perhaps a jig to hep you hold things squarely :-)
How did you manage to cut the ridges in the mold considering the diameter of the bullet head is wider so would cut a long hole the same width? I can't get my head around it.
Hey man excellent work with your tooling and mould! Just wondering if the milling cutter has to be carbide or can you get away with using a High Speed Steel milling cutter for cutting the drill rod? :-)
I may have missed something, does the mould need to be slightly larger than the intended calibre to allow for shrinkage for precise fit in the bore and if so by how much ? Thank you.😎
Das würde definitiv funktionieren, man benötigt dann nur noch den passenden "Fräser" (cherry cutter) in den genauen Abmaßen des Geschosses und ohne Drehbank ist das schwierig. Ich werde aber in den nächsten Wochen noch ein Video zu diesem Prozess erstellen (allerdings .45 ACP).
Are you using cold rolled stock? In the video you mention drill stock but wouldn't drill stock be too hard for most cutting tools? That brings me to my second question, Can I use cold rolled to make my bullet mould with out heat treating my cutter? Is cold rolled steel tough enough to cut aluminum with out heat treating?
I dont understand how the grease grooves could be cut by feeding the cutting point in... In my mind if you feed it the portion of the non grease groove will cut through it eliminating those grooves... i dont understand how you did it...
If you had a bullet with groves on it instead of a smooth bullet wouldn't it have the ice air hockey effect where it glides, in this case through the air?
great video. quick question. is there anyway to make a spire point bullet on a lathe? when you move the cross slide out to cut the final diameter, the bullet nose will also move (obviously) thereby giving you a flat nose.
Maybe not have the cutter in the full depth when doing the grease grooves. make a separate cutter for the point and drill to depth before or after the other cutter.
I'm thinking: - bore for depth. - cut out on a diagonal back using the compound slide. Though this would cut the aft face of the grease groves also at the same angle.
HSC is ok, if the drill rod is not hardened. If the bullet mold is made out of soft Aluminium then it is not necessesary to use drill rod, i have even used some low grade steel for the cutter and it worked ok.
I couldn't understand why you make the cutter diameter 20% undersize but the grease grooves the right length. Then I read Mr Boado's reply and all is clear. To what diameter do you drill the central hole?
Ja, gibt es, dafür benötigt man aber einen zentrisch spannenden Schraubstock und die Ständerbohrmaschine sollte sehr stabil sein. Der Prozess wird "cherry cutting bullet mold" genannt. Dieser ist aber eher führ kurze Geschosse geeignet.
Yes you are right but with this setup in the lathe i would have been a huge mess. Not just the cutter and mold but also the person in front of the lathe would have been covered with cutting fluid. In addition to that it was only aluminium. See my new video with a "cherry cutter" which works a lot better!
Nice work..Can you make for me a bullet cutter for 9 mm,to give me around 138 grain in 357 diameter bullet,round nose type...i want to re-cut my Lee mold...!Is it possible to order that from you and pay with paypal.!
awesome video, but a bit hard to understand the instructions across the screen. At times what was being read didn't make a lot of sense. not sure if it needed commas or extra words. but anyway cool video
+Xtreme 1000 Well for example if you can only get 9mm mold in projectile weight X,Y and Z and you want weight B you have to make it don't you, so when coupled with JCGver's reply we can state there are at least 2 reasons.
For making quality bullets, you want a Lyman mold. You also want a good alloy mixture of lead, tin and antimony. That's only if you want to hit what you're aiming at.
just came across this vid... as a retired machinist with more than 45 yrs experience - - WTF ! ! the sound alone is enough to tell that someone should take away your machines before you hurt yourself. and BRASS as a cutter? try your hand at woodworking before you lose an eye
OK what the hell did I miss here when you run the cutter in to the Al there is no way it will cut the grease groves it will cut right through just like a drill bit,,you either left something out or Im dumber than a box of rocks
If the bit is run through in the aluminium block , on turning how the grooves will be formed you are tend to get only clean drilled tapered hole without grooves
Ok, I'm calling B.S. on this one. If you move that so called cutter in and out a hole, the lube grooves would cut the sides smooth, thus leaving a grooveless hole. Try again.
You have no idea how much I have needed this! Thank you so much!
I was with you most of the way..but I got good results grinding an oversized cutter to the precise angle and shape of the actual bullet nose. This means 1 cut, one perfectly balanced mold. Great video! It got me started and forced me to practice correct engineering strategy and planning.
Very professionally made. Much better than other youtube homemade bullet mold.
I gotta save up some money to buy a mill and a lathe to get it done as nice as you have for my .25 air gun pellets.
MrRaynemaker , To make the grooves here is what is happening . First you bore the hole a little under size . Then you push the cutter into the hole . Now that you have the hole the right depth you use the cross feed and move the cutter sideways to cut the lube grooves . Then you have to center the cutter before you take it from the bore . That is how the grooves are cut .
thanks for the info
how do you know how far to move the cross feed? It seems like this is very important, cause even if it is dragged a few thou too much, the bullet produced will be too big.
Yes the most important is this , thank you !!!!!!!
I'm glad someone else noticed.
@@SONOFAZOMBIE2025 better to have the bullet oversized, than under. You swage them through a sizing die to uniform them more (gas always gets caught in the cooling metal, that causes balancing issues, swaging the bullets collapses the pockets and makes them better balanced). Sort by appearance (messed up bullets don't shoot well), Sort by weight (equal mass), and then swage them to uniform them.
In any case, you would have to decide that when you design your bullet. Mold making is no different than machining any precision part, you have to have schematics and follow them meticulously, to get a good result.
That's a very clever way to solve the problem of cutting 2 sides the same.
I have made very good cutter from low carbon steel that won't take a temper by case hardening with Cherry Red/Kasinte cutting 100 or more parts in Aluminum.
For this cutter a file is as fast as a mill if you have a roller jig to file it flat on the lathe.
With the filing jig there is only the one set up in the lathe.
Very nice work,
Gordon
That is a great way of making them. There are easier ways but that way is pretty good.
Wow, that was cool as a cucumber. I'm a machinist but, never made a mold. That's not how I imagined it. Brilliant!
Hi, the mold was made for a rifle with 11.62mm in diameter but this method should work with any caliber.
You can also cut the bullet form in half by using a simple hacksaw and file it smooth afterwards. You may need to resharpen the cutter after a few cuts to get a better finish, which can also be done with a file.
how to make a 4.5 mold
The cutter is made from drill rod and the bullet mold itself is made from Aluminium. But you could also use brass and HSS for the cutter.
Drill rod or HSS is aviable on Ebay.
One of those times you slap your head and say, why didn’t I think of that! Good job.
undersized the diameter of the cutter the depth of the groove you want to make! Make the holle!! !!move the cutter horizontally to get the finale diameter you wand for your holle
I'm a machinist and a shooter - I examined closely if you notice he moves the tool towards the middle when he withdraws it. Also the tool is 20% smaller than the actual bullet diameter. The procedure is correct as the machinist performs it.
Well done! I think i would also have cut a relief on the back of the cutter to prevent drag and better chip clearing, but you can't argue with results.
Exceptional work 👍🏼👌🏼 thank you.
After you cut the round mold material in half and Mill it flat it's not perfectly round anymore. Did you have a hard time centering it in the chuck like that?
Fkng outstanding!👏👏👍👍👍
Allright, seriously, this is some hot shit!!!!
Have you tried putting a milling cutter in the lathe chuck and setting up your work piece in the tool holder? You can do a surprising amount of milling work in a lathe if you can get your head around the set up with perhaps a jig to hep you hold things squarely :-)
Great Job, I will be making my own soon. Thanks
Excellent video!
beautiful job!
How did you manage to cut the ridges in the mold considering the diameter of the bullet head is wider so would cut a long hole the same width?
I can't get my head around it.
It's made 20% small then moved into the spinning work peice.
Only problem with this method is the flat point.
@@davm1974 You could drill a sharp bullet tip profile straight and centered as the very last step.
Hey man excellent work with your tooling and mould! Just wondering if the milling cutter has to be carbide or can you get away with using a High Speed Steel milling cutter for cutting the drill rod? :-)
Would you have to cut the tool into 1/4th to make a hollow point mold?
I may have missed something, does the mould need to be slightly larger than the intended calibre to allow for shrinkage for precise fit in the bore and if so by how much ? Thank you.😎
Wow. I didn't understand some of it but wow. Hell you could jazz them up a little and sell them if you wanted buddy.
Nice to know aluminum makes a good cast. I was thinking it was too soft and would melt from hit led. Thank you.
Das würde definitiv funktionieren, man benötigt dann nur noch den passenden "Fräser" (cherry cutter) in den genauen Abmaßen des Geschosses und ohne Drehbank ist das schwierig.
Ich werde aber in den nächsten Wochen noch ein Video zu diesem Prozess erstellen (allerdings .45 ACP).
Very cool man. Enjoyed it :)
kool can you make it bigger than that?
How do you establish the bullet ogive?
Are you using cold rolled stock? In the video you mention drill stock but wouldn't drill stock be too hard for most cutting tools? That brings me to my second question, Can I use cold rolled to make my bullet mould with out heat treating my cutter? Is cold rolled steel tough enough to cut aluminum with out heat treating?
I dont understand how the grease grooves could be cut by feeding the cutting point in... In my mind if you feed it the portion of the non grease groove will cut through it eliminating those grooves... i dont understand how you did it...
What lathe and milling machine do you have? Roughly how much did they cost? If you don't mind me asking.
What caliber are you making bullets for that are that freaking heavy?
If you had a bullet with groves on it instead of a smooth bullet wouldn't it have the ice air hockey effect where it glides, in this case through the air?
great video. quick question. is there anyway to make a spire point bullet on a lathe? when you move the cross slide out to cut the final diameter, the bullet nose will also move (obviously) thereby giving you a flat nose.
Maybe not have the cutter in the full depth when doing the grease grooves. make a separate cutter for the point and drill to depth before or after the other cutter.
cut the point in a separate step
I'm thinking:
- bore for depth.
- cut out on a diagonal back using the compound slide.
Though this would cut the aft face of the grease groves also at the same angle.
Great job!
What tips are used at 4:28 - 4:50?
Hi,
this was a fly cutter with a HSS 60° cutter.
+Flachzange1337 mommax or carbide tip?
@@patongpabiona1897 HSS
Nice result but shouldn't u u lube when makeung mild at the end so u don't ware out bit
HSC is ok, if the drill rod is not hardened.
If the bullet mold is made out of soft Aluminium then it is not necessesary to use drill rod, i have even used some low grade steel for the cutter and it worked ok.
gibt es auch eine möglichkeit für leute ohne drehmaschine oder fräse? ich habe nur eine stanndbohrmaschine
Nice video.
au tour à la fin ce n'est pas possible quand vous enfoncez la forme elle ne peut faire des creux déjà vue c'est en 2 partie ?
Pretty trick- [70s terminology for bitchen- [60s terminology for cool- [50s terminology for great].
I miss being a machinist. Nice job.
I couldn't understand why you make the cutter diameter 20% undersize but the grease grooves the right length. Then I read Mr Boado's reply and all is clear. To what diameter do you drill the central hole?
Because you want to have that extra area to get in your pilot hole and you just go 10% now to one end and it will make your 100% oad
That was a great vid. Time to find some aluminum .Thanks.
Super impressed , thank you sir 👍
also 9mm luger?
Ja, gibt es, dafür benötigt man aber einen zentrisch spannenden Schraubstock und die Ständerbohrmaschine sollte sehr stabil sein. Der Prozess wird "cherry cutting bullet mold" genannt. Dieser ist aber eher führ kurze Geschosse geeignet.
Yes you are right but with this setup in the lathe i would have been a huge mess. Not just the cutter and mold but also the person in front of the lathe would have been covered with cutting fluid. In addition to that it was only aluminium.
See my new video with a "cherry cutter" which works a lot better!
good job!
Thanks for your video
My brain hurts. Seriously though, fucking symphony on metal. Amazing.
Класс! Как всегда все гениальное просто.
Very good
都是啥材质的呢
Who can sell mold for .457 cal?
Nice work..Can you make for me a bullet cutter for 9 mm,to give me around 138 grain in 357 diameter bullet,round nose type...i want to re-cut my Lee mold...!Is it possible to order that from you and pay with paypal.!
awesome video, but a bit hard to understand the instructions across the screen. At times what was being read didn't make a lot of sense. not sure if it needed commas or extra words. but anyway cool video
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You're right Eugene. My apologies to Flachzange1337 for being so quick to criticize.
Ah scrap that ,he made the tool smaller and eased it into the side of the alli once the cutter was inside .
so why go to such trouble to make one when you can buy a mold of any shape or form for $20 ?
+Xtreme 1000 the same reason people take the effort to hunt instead of going to a butcher
+JCGver exactly
+JCGver Good!!!
+Xtreme 1000 Well for example if you can only get 9mm mold in projectile weight X,Y and Z and you want weight B you have to make it don't you, so when coupled with JCGver's reply we can state there are at least 2 reasons.
no i can't butwhat i can do is make one...
For making quality bullets, you want a Lyman mold. You also want a good alloy mixture of lead, tin and antimony. That's only if you want to hit what you're aiming at.
Freaking awesome.
just came across this vid... as a retired machinist with more than 45 yrs experience - - WTF ! ! the sound alone is enough to tell that someone should take away your machines before you hurt yourself. and BRASS as a cutter? try your hand at woodworking before you lose an eye
A little lube goes a long way to not burn up the cutters
OK what the hell did I miss here when you run the cutter in to the Al there is no way it will cut the grease groves it will cut right through just like a drill bit,,you either left something out or Im dumber than a box of rocks
He does that with the X axis on his lathe after getting to depth. Must be why you turn the cutter 20% smaller than finish diameter.
OHHHHHHH GOD DAMMIT. How the fuck did I miss that?
do you have 'a email '?
Two words. Auto. Feed. Haha. Cool vid.
The cutter is 20% smaller than the bullet? Huh? I think you meant 2%
If the bit is run through in the aluminium block , on turning how the grooves will be formed you are tend to get only clean drilled tapered hole without grooves
Гениально!!!
Querio uma desta mas 38 e 44-40
Or just buy one for $ 15 , rock on bro.
Mantap👍 videos
Yeah i thought that too ?
How is that machine called
Who is here because bullets and molds are impossible to find?
"selfmade"? not what you think it means!
WOWED
мастер!!!
Просто Охуительно.👍
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Bom dia
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The left brought me here
Обман!
Ok, I'm calling B.S. on this one. If you move that so called cutter in and out a hole, the lube grooves would cut the sides smooth, thus leaving a grooveless hole. Try again.
I know it’s been 5 years. But I just wanted you to see what a moron you were 5 years ago 😂😂😂
j p awesome, I hope MrRaynemaker sees your comment but who knows maybe he still can’t wrap his mind around it
@@jamesbizs some people are just that tarded
This guy is no machinist.