Great video and content. I bought the sim with 9°. The spin number I was getting were very low. I upped the loft to 10.5° and now spin is increased. It suits me, still goes literally miles and is accurate.
Wow. Of the TH-cam reviewers doing the SIM, you’ve absolutely smashed it compared to them with numbers. It’s crazy how different drivers perform so much differently with different golfers. Another reason why it’s important to get fitted!
Alex Rosado I know it’s crazy. But I think most of it comes down to the golfer just being comfortable with the club. Being comfortable creates a more confident swing which usually leads to better ball strikes. Unless it’s just that dreaded day where nothing is going help.
Alex Rosado Tour experience golf needs to be everyone’s stop on here when wanting the most accurate and scientific approach looking at anything golf. Give them a whirl, they wont disappoint
I have a 2.5 year old M3 that recently had some manufacturing problems. I messaged taylormade expecting them to say I was SOL. They messaged me last night saying they are sending me the SIM. I will be taylormade for life going forward. I think i paid $350 for my M3 on sale and they're sending me their $550 flagship club without a question. Im pretty pumped to take this to Ridgeway, CO in about 8 weeks and see how far it can hit. I usually hit around 275-280 in MO, but can get it as far as about 315 on a flat hole with no wind. In CO I typically hit about 315-320, but have hit as far as 380 on a flat hole. If you've ever contemplated going to CO in high elevation to golf go do it. Your score will be horrible because your judgment will be way off, but its so fun to hit a 9 iron 170 yards!
I liked watching your reviews because you would use the shaft that came with the club, and we do know the shaft is important. But now you are pulling a RS and changing shafts to fit you. I think it is important to see how the shaft reacts with the head because many of us do have to buy off the rack and this will give us a better idea how the club performs. thanks jt Still like your reviews, but talk more about the head, shaft relationship!
Why the hell have you only got 27k subs.?? I've been a regular viewer for the last couple of years and you are by far the best reviewer of equipment on the tube. I'm baffled Mike :s
Hi Michael just ordered Sim max driver fairway wood and hybrid which i will be getting in the Diamana shaft for driver and fairway wood and ventos blue for hybrid. They were all very accurate for a 19 hcapper. Thank you for the review
Hi Louis, just a quick spoiler alert TM don't use the full spec After Market shafts in their drivers so the Ventus shaft that they are using does not have the high-density graphite that is used in the Ventus After Market shaft.
@@adamboyle3331 TM are not using the full spec After Market Ventus shaft they are fitting a reduced spec OEM version that doesn't contain the hi-modus graphite that is used in the After Market shaft.
I like how they went back to the white black crown on top. Definitely will be trading in for this one! Damn you taylormade how do you do it every year!! Haha
Realizing they are probably made for irons, have you thought about sticking those little rubber training bits to the club face to improve some of your slight mis-his?
WOW Mr Newton you were hammering those drives I'm mightily impressed! Obviously, a Christmas diet of Mince Pies and Christmas Pudding does wonders for your clubhead speed lol
Im a low single figure golfer, avg 6 iron 190y. I couldn't get *either* SIM model to spin over 1400-1600 with 155mph ball speed. My launch angle was avg 14.8° with the 9° head so I couldn't go up in loft. Unfortunate. Loved the look and feel of the club. I wanted it, but the TS3 stays.
I prefer classic looking clubs from the top, keep it simple and muted don't distract. Not a fan of the two tone TM look to begin with, but now they go and add writing (SIM) visible from the top. Ick. Why not just write FORE on the crown to remind most hacks what they should be saying after swinging? :D
Comes standard with a Ventus shaft?! That really changed things a lot, that’s a $350 shaft. Might seal the deal for a lot of people. I wasn’t interested at first but with a Ventus I might be.
Stock shaft for each head might be different, but the length is the exact same at 45.75". I think you said the MAX has a longer shaft, which is incorrect.
Welcome back to the NY Mike. Would love you to compare SIM to the M5 to see if it has indeed created a genuine increase in your club head speed & distance. Cheers
Cobra F9 and SLDR combo ! Weight low and back like the F9 and moving weight near face like the SLDR. You should’ve deleted that short 253 yd. shot with standard SIM and 1 outlier with the MAX
Carry 283 both 😀How many engineers to develop those 2 SIM with different targuets ? I bet you enjoyed champagne and pudding for Christmas (or just a pleasant family time) when I see your club speed...
Waiting on the Gloire review. Seems to be TM’s big boy this year. 10 years of TM drivers in my bag and not a one ever did what yours did in this video. Looks so damn effortless!
@@MichaelNewtonGolf 😄 your shock and awe at the results out of the gate 2020. I know your spin numbers and these are amazing, and with a stiff shaft?! Well you reacted accordingly = lol
What is TM trying to accomplish using that Ventus shaft in the SIM Max? What do you think the difference in your drives would have been if you used it instead of the Hazardous Smoke (spin, distance ball/clubhead speed, etc.)? Great video and thanks!! It looks like TM has a solid product here.
I just bought the sim 10.5 and I'm getting 5 yards More then my ancient R9 @11.5. it's not worth the money whatsoever. I out them both to the test at the indoor simulator. I'm gonna try dropping the lift to see if I can get 20. If not, keep your money.
are those range ball ? because tbh 164 mph ball speed for 118mph chs, that would be mean that you are hitting everywhere except in the the middle, seems like you are hitting way up on the club face, maybe you should tee lower to catch the center...
No driver is going to reduce spin in a drastic way if there is a swing mechanic causing higher spin. Your strike is always going to rule in moving spin numbers. Chances are you strike is low in the head.
Yeah its totally killing the Ventus as a premium brand.. Clad they removed the Velocore logo from the bottom of the shaft so at least one can tell them apart if they know what to look for..
Slicers should have lessons and sort out their club to path relationship, not buy draw bias drivers in my opinion. The SIM driver looks like a F9/SZ but £100 more expensive, to my eyes
Something that would suit your channel perfectly: Test it against the Cobra Speedzone with a few scientists in one of the National Wind Tunnel Facilities ? How aerodynamic are they really ? www.nwtf.ac.uk/html/index.html
@@bigr2305 I'd pay more attention to TXG's review than Rick Shiels tbh. These guys are master club fitters & the drivers tested have been custom fit perfectly for him. ie getting the very best out of the club. Shiels just uses stock shafts, so hardly a real head to head is it!!
Great video and content. I bought the sim with 9°. The spin number I was getting were very low. I upped the loft to 10.5° and now spin is increased. It suits me, still goes literally miles and is accurate.
Wow. Of the TH-cam reviewers doing the SIM, you’ve absolutely smashed it compared to them with numbers. It’s crazy how different drivers perform so much differently with different golfers. Another reason why it’s important to get fitted!
Alex Rosado I know it’s crazy. But I think most of it comes down to the golfer just being comfortable with the club. Being comfortable creates a more confident swing which usually leads to better ball strikes. Unless it’s just that dreaded day where nothing is going help.
Alex Rosado
Tour experience golf needs to be everyone’s stop on here when wanting the most accurate and scientific approach looking at anything golf. Give them a whirl, they wont disappoint
Drew Jones, I watch them all 😂
I have a 2.5 year old M3 that recently had some manufacturing problems. I messaged taylormade expecting them to say I was SOL. They messaged me last night saying they are sending me the SIM. I will be taylormade for life going forward. I think i paid $350 for my M3 on sale and they're sending me their $550 flagship club without a question. Im pretty pumped to take this to Ridgeway, CO in about 8 weeks and see how far it can hit. I usually hit around 275-280 in MO, but can get it as far as about 315 on a flat hole with no wind. In CO I typically hit about 315-320, but have hit as far as 380 on a flat hole.
If you've ever contemplated going to CO in high elevation to golf go do it. Your score will be horrible because your judgment will be way off, but its so fun to hit a 9 iron 170 yards!
Just bought the max. Haven’t hit it yet but your presentation is fantastic can’t wait to get it on the course
that is the most effortless 118mph swing i've seen in a while.
I liked watching your reviews because you would use the shaft that came with the club, and we do know the shaft is important. But now you are pulling a RS and changing shafts to fit you. I think it is important to see how the shaft reacts with the head because many of us do have to buy off the rack and this will give us a better idea how the club performs. thanks jt Still like your reviews, but talk more about the head, shaft relationship!
Why the hell have you only got 27k subs.?? I've been a regular viewer for the last couple of years and you are by far the best reviewer of equipment on the tube. I'm baffled Mike :s
Me too!! 😂
Dude your swing looks so effortless! When I saw 320 and you said 118mph I nearly dropped a deuce 🤣
Dude, if your swing this driver at 117 mph, then my swing speed must me 130!
You are really swinging both these drivers well. I like the MAX better because of the added forgiveness and you don't really give up distance.
Hi Michael just ordered Sim max driver fairway wood and hybrid which i will be getting in the Diamana shaft for driver and fairway wood and ventos blue for hybrid. They were all very accurate for a 19 hcapper. Thank you for the review
Great video Michael would have been good to see how you would have hit your own driver today by comparison
Not one for me based on looks but performs very well. 118 mph club head speed in January! 👍
Idont know whether u hv mentioned the weight of the shaft u r using. As usual brit english diff to understand n he talk too much
Best SIM review I’ve seen today! Only person to talk about shaft options. Defiantly will be going for a fitting for this driver..
Thank you
Hi Louis, just a quick spoiler alert TM don't use the full spec After Market shafts in their drivers so the Ventus shaft that they are using does not have the high-density graphite that is used in the Ventus After Market shaft.
Louis Pickering great point
Ventus blue shaft comes standard on the Max? That’s insane, it’s normally $350 and is supposed to be one of the best out there right now
@@adamboyle3331 TM are not using the full spec After Market Ventus shaft they are fitting a reduced spec OEM version that doesn't contain the hi-modus graphite that is used in the After Market shaft.
Mike, great videos. Favorite Brit reviewer. This driver looks like it will be the longest driver ever. USGA might outlaw it's design.
Great review just went with Sim Max great deal on EBay didn’t think I needed to pay over $100 more for Sim Max2 based on your review
Great review , pity you did not hit the max with its own shaft to see the difference it would make , 👍
I like how they went back to the white black crown on top. Definitely will be trading in for this one! Damn you taylormade how do you do it every year!! Haha
Realizing they are probably made for irons, have you thought about sticking those little rubber training bits to the club face to improve some of your slight mis-his?
WOW Mr Newton you were hammering those drives I'm mightily impressed! Obviously, a Christmas diet of Mince Pies and Christmas Pudding does wonders for your clubhead speed lol
Im a low single figure golfer, avg 6 iron 190y. I couldn't get *either* SIM model to spin over 1400-1600 with 155mph ball speed. My launch angle was avg 14.8° with the 9° head so I couldn't go up in loft. Unfortunate. Loved the look and feel of the club. I wanted it, but the TS3 stays.
Not sure if I have ever seen you hit a driver that good Mike 😱
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This driver has caught my eye for sure. Both You and Alex E were hitting these clubs long and accurate.
Matt Aamold tour experience golf is the must follow channel in golf. It should be your #1 stop for comparing clubs
Wow great numbers Micheal thanks for the review !
I just love the look of your swing.
Not working for it at all.
Blessings from Canada.
I prefer classic looking clubs from the top, keep it simple and muted don't distract. Not a fan of the two tone TM look to begin with, but now they go and add writing (SIM) visible from the top. Ick. Why not just write FORE on the crown to remind most hacks what they should be saying after swinging? :D
I chose to watch your review of the SIM first as I knew it would be good. I wasn't dissapointed! Great review Mike.
thanks Martin
Great Video Mike, swing still looks great! Nice looking drivers from Taylormade, gleaned good info.
Hope your well Graham
While you were swinging well I wish you would have grabbed the M5 & M6 to compare.
I think TM has really done something special there if the marketing isn't far off and the swing speed is faster. Time will tell.
The SIM max comes with a stock Ventus shaft...? Holy crap! 👏🙌🙀
It's not a proper ventus
Good review. But I'll stick with Cobra Speedzone
Great review Mike, Your swing looked amazing and the dispersion this driver gave you was ideal.
Comes standard with a Ventus shaft?! That really changed things a lot, that’s a $350 shaft. Might seal the deal for a lot of people. I wasn’t interested at first but with a Ventus I might be.
Adam Boyle it’s a made for version and not the real deal.
exactly, its like last year taylormade tensei orange, it wasn't the 350$ version, same with this one it is not the 350$ ventus
Stock shaft for each head might be different, but the length is the exact same at 45.75". I think you said the MAX has a longer shaft, which is incorrect.
As usual a superb review, top work Sir!
Max dispersion is crazy good wow
Really wish u had thrown in a swing with your own during this session to see how much was swing vs new tech. Then again I hear great things.
Separate video comparing coming next week
Welcome back to the NY Mike. Would love you to compare SIM to the M5 to see if it has indeed created a genuine increase in your club head speed & distance. Cheers
HNY 👍
Cobra F9 and SLDR combo ! Weight low and back like the F9 and moving weight near face like the SLDR. You should’ve deleted that short 253 yd. shot with standard SIM and 1 outlier with the MAX
Carry 283 both 😀How many engineers to develop those 2 SIM with different targuets ?
I bet you enjoyed champagne and pudding for Christmas (or just a pleasant family time) when I see your club speed...
This was a decent move by Taylormade. The engine of the SLDR and put it in a fancy new body.
Michael can you do some comparisons Against current other models? TS line and Ping G410 LST maybe
absolutely, loads of vids coming your way
Waiting on the Gloire review. Seems to be TM’s big boy this year. 10 years of TM drivers in my bag and not a one ever did what yours did in this video. Looks so damn effortless!
Solid review Mike... would love to have seen you grab the M5 or M6 off the shelf to compare to these two.
Coming soon hopefully
@@MichaelNewtonGolf And club head speed will be the same on both last years and this years model
Hey Michael, thanks so much for all your videos. Really enjoy your reviews and perspective on gear!
Thanks for watching
Frigging hilarious and great real review as usual Mike
What’s was so funny? 🤔😀
@@MichaelNewtonGolf 😄 your shock and awe at the results out of the gate 2020. I know your spin numbers and these are amazing, and with a stiff shaft?! Well you reacted accordingly = lol
Going to compare SIM/MAX to M5/6 or anything else soon? You bombed this club and have peaked my interest!
Yes
The clubhead speed has to be the leaner fitter you... Great review pal and looking fit
🤔😆👍
What is TM trying to accomplish using that Ventus shaft in the SIM Max? What do you think the difference in your drives would have been if you used it instead of the Hazardous Smoke (spin, distance ball/clubhead speed, etc.)?
Great video and thanks!! It looks like TM has a solid product here.
It's not a proper ventus
Welcome back 🙏
So it will be be in the bag then , increased club head speed and great dispersion ?
Yeah I was expecting the M7/M8.
Is it worth upgrading my current M2 2017 driver in your opinion?
I would say yes but worth testing against it first if you can
Happy new year Mike, good to have u back! wow u hit those good!! Be hard to beat that??
Yeh I was surprised! Be interested to compare with M5 etc
@@MichaelNewtonGolf that would be a great video
Your reviews are awesome!!
Thanks
Wow you really crushed both of those drivers.
Great review Mike.
Very good review.
You deserve way more subscribers my friend.
Twist face helping you out and you didn’t even mention it!
Imagine the backlash from all TM haters if I did!! 🤪
I just bought the sim 10.5 and I'm getting 5 yards More then my ancient R9 @11.5. it's not worth the money whatsoever. I out them both to the test at the indoor simulator. I'm gonna try dropping the lift to see if I can get 20. If not, keep your money.
Going well but haven't you hit that far before with the Rogue?
Still impress with your swing. You seems effortless. What is your take on the Shaft ?
Really liked it, solid
Cobra must be spitting feathers 🤪SIM stands for similar to cobra lol
It really is lol
😂
M6 had wing in the back also
@@MichaelNewtonGolf why did you not remove the 279 HD heal shot from the list?
It really brought down the averages.
Love the videos....
are those range ball ? because tbh 164 mph ball speed for 118mph chs, that would be mean that you are hitting everywhere except in the the middle, seems like you are hitting way up on the club face, maybe you should tee lower to catch the center...
Interesting, I couldn’t get these drivers to spin under 3000 rpm when I tested them. Guess it’s time to work on my angle of attack!
No driver is going to reduce spin in a drastic way if there is a swing mechanic causing higher spin. Your strike is always going to rule in moving spin numbers. Chances are you strike is low in the head.
Michael, is that the HZRDUS Smoke green in the shaft?
yes Michael
RS found same thing with dispersion
Could you compare sim vs ts3? With Same shaft
Which are the heads weights ? Thank you
Good video!
Great review! 🤙🤙🤙
Ventus stock? Great marketing. Ppl are going to see DJ with a ventus thinking it’s the same lol no no no
Yeah its totally killing the Ventus as a premium brand.. Clad they removed the Velocore logo from the bottom of the shaft so at least one can tell them apart if they know what to look for..
No in the SIm he has a hzrdus green in it
what's your normal club head speed?
Compare the 9* SIM to the M5 set stronger to 8*....
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Those drives were long! Could go in the bag?
Hmmm contender
Michael, What golf shoes are those??
Adidas spikeless
I wish my horrific strikes got me a 280 yard drive right up the middle.
You're not alone there mate...
I come to Mr. Newton when I want to take a look at some noombuhs.
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Michael Newton Golf Just an ugly American poking fun ;)
It's the fact that u used a 6.0 rather than the 6.5 xstiff
What a swing
118 got in his head and totally missed the next!
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Will this be 2020 longest driver?
Possibly
Catching up to the Ping G400 now...
Going to compare soon
I wonder if maybe it's giving an inaccurate club head speed cause if that's 118 for real ball speed should be more like 170
How do you get to that conclusion?
@@MichaelNewtonGolf your smash factor was kind of low and Matt blois from txg was hitting it at around the same swing speed and had ball speed at 170
Price?
Sim £479, sim max £449
Slicers should have lessons and sort out their club to path relationship, not buy draw bias drivers in my opinion. The SIM driver looks like a F9/SZ but £100 more expensive, to my eyes
I don't want to spend 500 on a driver but I think I need to have it
Why no price mentioned? Come on average golfers take more lessons instead,, it IS the only way to reduce handicaps.
Was shouting at the screen for you to take the misshit out of SIM numbers, you would of seen the differences if you did
Jeez Mike ur a freaking stick bro!
Something that would suit your channel perfectly: Test it against the Cobra Speedzone with a few scientists in one of the National Wind Tunnel Facilities ? How aerodynamic are they really ? www.nwtf.ac.uk/html/index.html
Effortless power
You guys don’t know this but mike took those drivers packed them up and he’s on a plane ✈️ to Dubai to play golf 🏌️ right now
I wish!! 😝
Hey I live in Maine it’s snowing and other then smashing balls into a net and putting on a runner rug the golf channel is a close as I get to grass.
Great to get rid of the ugly white cover...
M6 + F9 = SIM :::;;;;;;
Looks like they are copying Cobra.
No better than the M5/M6, nice try though!
Who’s trying 🤷♂️ I’ll be doing that comparison soon. TXG boys saw a difference, interesting
@@MichaelNewtonGolf And Rick Shiels didn't so I'm looking forward to your comparison.
@@bigr2305 I'd pay more attention to TXG's review than Rick Shiels tbh. These guys are master club fitters & the drivers tested have been custom fit perfectly for him. ie getting the very best out of the club. Shiels just uses stock shafts, so hardly a real head to head is it!!
Gc
lol