The US stock bike was heavily nerfed in power. Kawi basically cuts off throttle input at 11,500, so it needs an ecu flash before you can access the 16,000rpm redline… you know, where the bike makes ALL its power.
He did! That bike came straight off the showroom floor and on to the front straight over launch! Team Green would be proud! But yes that bike is very cool
@@Theshayman im down to test it,proaly gonna try to buy it on black market from us somehow,cause all i want from bike is that 4cyndiner sound and i dont wanna have 600as daily cause i cant ride them more than 30 mins,my back hurts and this bike is more comfortballe and i like that u have opportunity to go to every gear more often rather than sitting in 2nd all the time,also is begginer friendly and u dont need realisticly more than 80hp,cause tbh 200kmh or 120mph is super fast but people wanna go 180 and than they die,sad but true
The inline twin is carrying more speed through the corners and is comfortable on his bike. The guy on the RR is probably not use to it ( its brand new and limited not just by the ecu but how many are actually out there ) regardless if it's detuned or been flashed, and the power band between the two bikes isn't a 1 for 1 either, one's only just starting where the other is already in it. The RR is already at a disadvantage in just trying to figure it how it behaves the way it is, and the higher redline means he's not shifting as often as the 400 so there is not as much a loss of momentum in taking the time to grab a gear, and their lines differ aswell ( where they take the apex, where and how they brake ). There's alot more then spec sheets to consider here.
@TheShayman Like you said many times across many comments, power isn't everything, I've seen people at NYST blow the fairings off 600's and liter bikes with ninja 300's. In a straight line, sure the RR shouldn't have an issue zipping past the inline twin * 400, but where's the fun in that 🤔.
Liked and subscribed... I had the 400 and went full race with it. Had to sell it due to financial bs. (Thanks COVID) Currently I have a full race 2020 zx6r. Look forward to having the 400RR be the 400's replacement. Look forward to seeing your future mods.
Was guessing a race preped n400 could beat a stock zx4. Yea looks like it. 2wheeldynoworks has a flash for $329. Glad a ecu flash is avaliable right away.
I'm really bummed, when I first saw this bike was coming to the US I was super excited, then I saw the price, them I saw it was detuned, which means even more cost. Yeah, maybe I will pick one up used at some point, but my excitement is just disappointment now. 😞
Not surprised bcos in N America u get onli 53hp out from the box while the rest of us get 79hp from the exact same bike. Anyway a ECU reflash should unlock the hp for ur ZX-4RR which will definitely smoke the Ninja 400. *Ikr bcos I have a Ninja 400 😂
Thats MSRH! didnt expect to see it. i go from dallas to houston for that track every month with my rc390. going to hallet next for race school. you might've seen me; all black rc with white stickers.
1:14 ... I am no expert but it seems the rr rider is carrying needless lean angle. You can see him almost knee down but his head and neck are crimped away from the apex toward the sky. If he dropped his head lower and bent the inside arm more while straightening the outside arm, the bike would carry less lean angle and less risk. And he could accelerate sooner coming out of the apex. Thx for sharing
@@MagicCarpetRide8669 I've seen people tune the twin and they got about seven horsepower more. This one is a much better tuner but it's twice the price.
@@MagicCarpetRide8669 it makes that extra 20hp in stock tune almost everywhere else it's sold, so it should be just as reliable. It's only the US market bikes that have had 20hp taken away as stock
@@Theshayman that’s crappy, really? It looks pretty good, but I saw it online. Has all kinds of great Yamaha race parts that are engineer to work on that bike.
The R6 is pretty much a stock r6, with race body work and some harness modifications. Stock suspension, no blip, no switches, oem clip ons and rearsets (non adjustable). More like an R6 Track bike than race bike in my opinion
Geeeez honestly that is a big letdown. I knew my Ninja 650 was faster than the ZX4rr but I never thought even the Ninja 400 would be faster. I will say if you mostly ride around town or on twisty roads you're better off with an inline twin imo. More torque
You gotta remember these bikes are super nurtured from the factory for US and Canada! Once unlocked and tuned should be around 70+ hp which is an incredible power to weight ratio! PLEASE SUBSCRIBE FOR MORE!
Yep the stock HP on the ZX4RR in the US and Canada is only 53 HP, Kawasaki had to limit the power to pass noise regulations and emissions in the US/Canada, everywhere else is getting the full 80 HP straight off the showroom floor. The ECU is limiting the Ride By Wire control on the throttle body to not open all the way. So the power increase stops at around 11,000 RPM and stays like that all the way to redline 16,000 RPM, making a total of only 53 HP. This can be tuned/Flashed out via the ECU to make the full 80 HP.
we can compare everything to everything it is what it is stock full power zx4 rr cos on us and kanada market go restricted version give naturally 0 chance ninja 400 out of corner acceleration on straight due to masiive top end power advantage 🌪😎🤷🏻♂️👌🏻 also lil better suspension asf yea stock vs stock with no restriction no doubt zx4 r beat ninja 400 in terms of times on each normal size track the same as ktm rc390 cbr 500 continental gt roayal enfield 650 asf all those bike be smoked be zx4 rr derestricted 🤭👍🏻👋🏻
@@mociczyczki i understand, i apologyse everyone, its the first vídeo i ever seen and the idea is superb , comparing this 2 kawasakis. I wish we had the zx4rr in europe 😥
yeah what a disappointment . 54 hp and only 10 pounds lighter than the zx6r. by the time you upgrade the zx4rr you might as well of bought the zx6r. and the 6r is a monster in comparison + 10 lbs heavier. what a waste of an idea.
@@zx10bk Yeah, but I want the inline 4 screaming, but not the power of the 636. I had a 636 for a few years and loved it, but the extra power was waisted on me.
the guy on the 400 is a much much better rider so its not exactly an equal comparison of the bike itself
Hahahaha thanks! that’s me! I was gonna ride the zx4rr later on that day but it started raining 😔
They are fairly similar abilities if the 4R only has 53hp and the Ninja 400 is already set up for track…
@@Theshayman you got mad skills 🤙 that downshifting while leaned was ming
@@111jkjk thank you my kind sir!!
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The US stock bike was heavily nerfed in power.
Kawi basically cuts off throttle input at 11,500, so it needs an ecu flash before you can access the 16,000rpm redline… you know, where the bike makes ALL its power.
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Very cool, looks like on that second lap he got into the revs a little more. These are going to be awesome track bikes.
He did! That bike came straight off the showroom floor and on to the front straight over launch! Team Green would be proud! But yes that bike is very cool
Didnt know thos bike is thing,its big diffrence from ninja 400 right,is closer to zx25r that bike is dope,sad thing its not in eu
@@kotra3582 exactly! A big brother to the zx25r! Ride by wire, full blip QS, all the electronic rider aids or the newer zx6r
@@Theshayman im down to test it,proaly gonna try to buy it on black market from us somehow,cause all i want from bike is that 4cyndiner sound and i dont wanna have 600as daily cause i cant ride them more than 30 mins,my back hurts and this bike is more comfortballe and i like that u have opportunity to go to every gear more often rather than sitting in 2nd all the time,also is begginer friendly and u dont need realisticly more than 80hp,cause tbh 200kmh or 120mph is super fast but people wanna go 180 and than they die,sad but true
This is true!
The inline twin is carrying more speed through the corners and is comfortable on his bike. The guy on the RR is probably not use to it ( its brand new and limited not just by the ecu but how many are actually out there ) regardless if it's detuned or been flashed, and the power band between the two bikes isn't a 1 for 1 either, one's only just starting where the other is already in it. The RR is already at a disadvantage in just trying to figure it how it behaves the way it is, and the higher redline means he's not shifting as often as the 400 so there is not as much a loss of momentum in taking the time to grab a gear, and their lines differ aswell ( where they take the apex, where and how they brake ). There's alot more then spec sheets to consider here.
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@TheShayman Like you said many times across many comments, power isn't everything, I've seen people at NYST blow the fairings off 600's and liter bikes with ninja 300's. In a straight line, sure the RR shouldn't have an issue zipping past the inline twin * 400, but where's the fun in that 🤔.
Good looking bike for sure
I can’t wait to hear what it sounds like with an exhaust
Check out Graves YT and their build is the one I’d follow!
Definitely on my bucket list a track day that is 😅
You should do it man! You’ll be be hooked!
Liked and subscribed... I had the 400 and went full race with it. Had to sell it due to financial bs. (Thanks COVID) Currently I have a full race 2020 zx6r. Look forward to having the 400RR be the 400's replacement. Look forward to seeing your future mods.
That’s tough! Glad you’re back on two wheels!!
THIS was a good, quik vid to watch. That RR is going to be "hell on wheels" once the "R & R" modifications 🤪 happen. Thanks for sharing. 👍🏽
I appreciate that brotha!! Yes it is!
Was guessing a race preped n400 could beat a stock zx4. Yea looks like it. 2wheeldynoworks has a flash for $329. Glad a ecu flash is avaliable right away.
its so awesome how quickly people are acting on these bikes. people are not sleeping on these
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MSR looks like such a fun track, nice riding!
It’s got it’s quirks but it’s an awesome layout, my home track ❤️❤️ subscribe for more !
I'm really bummed, when I first saw this bike was coming to the US I was super excited, then I saw the price, them I saw it was detuned, which means even more cost. Yeah, maybe I will pick one up used at some point, but my excitement is just disappointment now. 😞
My thoughts exactly!!! They WILL be great track/race bikes but they are not out the box
I take it the sound on the video is from the Ninja 400?
The ZX-4RR with a tune will definitely smoke that Ninja 400 as it should.
Yes it’s my race 400, subscribe and check my other videos on it!
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@@Theshayman yeah i own one for my first motorcycle, pretty fun for a 400cc🙂
Impressive, they ninja looks like its very underated
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ZX4rr needs tune i hate how they do that but looks like 50hp without tune, but 70hp+ with. so its nerfed hard for the US.
For sure!!! It’s already impressive, and now add extra 20hp?! 😱😱 please subscribe for more!
a 13T sprocket in front will be a good gearing on track
Not surprised bcos in N America u get onli 53hp out from the box while the rest of us get 79hp from the exact same bike.
Anyway a ECU reflash should unlock the hp for ur ZX-4RR which will definitely smoke the Ninja 400.
*Ikr bcos I have a Ninja 400 😂
Lol! Yes that is plan for this one as well along with a plethora of track goodies!
Horsepower isn’t a everything!
Check out this video of me chasing down a 636 with my 400
th-cam.com/video/wysP2JwZ6HE/w-d-xo.html
Thats MSRH! didnt expect to see it. i go from dallas to houston for that track every month with my rc390. going to hallet next for race school. you might've seen me; all black rc with white stickers.
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I will hear you ripping around Hallett! I am just over the hill!
Sweet!!!
1:14 ... I am no expert but it seems the rr rider is carrying needless lean angle. You can see him almost knee down but his head and neck are crimped away from the apex toward the sky. If he dropped his head lower and bent the inside arm more while straightening the outside arm, the bike would carry less lean angle and less risk. And he could accelerate sooner coming out of the apex. Thx for sharing
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Imo he's not carrying enough lean angle for how much he's hanging off. Seems to be forcing knee down
They are getting 20 more rwhp from just a tune on a stock bike. It will smoke the twin!
Well you can tune the twin too.
@@MagicCarpetRide8669 I've seen people tune the twin and they got about seven horsepower more. This one is a much better tuner but it's twice the price.
@@MagicCarpetRide8669 the usa zx4rr is _severely_ gimped from the factory, a flash is a huge difference on this bike
@@xorbe2 ok cool I didn’t know that. It will be interesting to see if it affects reliability. I like the bike a lot.
@@MagicCarpetRide8669 it makes that extra 20hp in stock tune almost everywhere else it's sold, so it should be just as reliable. It's only the US market bikes that have had 20hp taken away as stock
Let’s hope Kawasaki do what Yamaha is doing for the r6 and sell a track only version
That would be nice! Hopefully not as crappy as Yamaha’s “Race” R6 😂
For the 4RR or the ZX6?
@@Theshayman that’s crappy, really? It looks pretty good, but I saw it online. Has all kinds of great Yamaha race parts that are engineer to work on that bike.
I was referring to the R6 Race!
The R6 is pretty much a stock r6, with race body work and some harness modifications.
Stock suspension, no blip, no switches, oem clip ons and rearsets (non adjustable).
More like an R6 Track bike than race bike in my opinion
Geeeez honestly that is a big letdown. I knew my Ninja 650 was faster than the ZX4rr but I never thought even the Ninja 400 would be faster. I will say if you mostly ride around town or on twisty roads you're better off with an inline twin imo. More torque
You gotta remember these bikes are super nurtured from the factory for US and Canada! Once unlocked and tuned should be around 70+ hp which is an incredible power to weight ratio!
PLEASE SUBSCRIBE FOR MORE!
Yep the stock HP on the ZX4RR in the US and Canada is only 53 HP, Kawasaki had to limit the power to pass noise regulations and emissions in the US/Canada, everywhere else is getting the full 80 HP straight off the showroom floor.
The ECU is limiting the Ride By Wire control on the throttle body to not open all the way. So the power increase stops at around 11,000 RPM and stays like that all the way to redline 16,000 RPM, making a total of only 53 HP.
This can be tuned/Flashed out via the ECU to make the full 80 HP.
It's a stock zx4rr vs track build ninja 400 lmao
Horsepower isn’t a everything!
Check out this video of me chasing down a 636 with my 400
th-cam.com/video/wysP2JwZ6HE/w-d-xo.html
What up bro this is shelik.
Brooo what’s up!
You must compare a zx4rr stock with a ninja 400 stock, not a zx4rr stock vs a ninja 400 race bike😂
we can compare everything to everything it is what it is stock full power zx4 rr cos on us and kanada market go restricted version give naturally 0 chance ninja 400 out of corner acceleration on straight due to masiive top end power advantage 🌪😎🤷🏻♂️👌🏻 also lil better suspension asf yea stock vs stock with no restriction no doubt zx4 r beat ninja 400 in terms of times on each normal size track the same as ktm rc390 cbr 500 continental gt roayal enfield 650 asf all those bike be smoked be zx4 rr derestricted 🤭👍🏻👋🏻
@@mociczyczki i understand, i apologyse everyone, its the first vídeo i ever seen and the idea is superb , comparing this 2 kawasakis. I wish we had the zx4rr in europe 😥
It all depends on the rider and the build!
It all depends on the rider and the build!
Horsepower isn’t a everything!
Check out this video of me chasing down a 636 with my 400
th-cam.com/video/wysP2JwZ6HE/w-d-xo.html
The ninja 400 doesn t sound stock at all 😂
You must compare a ninja 400 stock vs a zx4rr stock
No my ninja is not stock at all! It’s full blown race bike! Subscribe and watch my other videos to see !
A stock 400 vs a stock (US) zx4rr might be a bit unfair with all the suspension/ electronic goodies on the zx4rr but could be fair HP wise
@@Theshayman its a great vídeo, anyway, probably the first in the world. 💯👍
Making California complient bikes sucks. Just fall into the ocean already so we can have euro spec bikes.
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A few spreader jacks and some crowbars may help...
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I think euro is way more strict isn’t it?
Is this zx4rr the 54hp model or 79 hp?
It’s the US/CANADA 54 Hp model 😔, BUT will be unlocked soon!
yeah what a disappointment . 54 hp and only 10 pounds lighter than the zx6r. by the time you upgrade the zx4rr you might as well of bought the zx6r. and the 6r is a monster in comparison + 10 lbs heavier. what a waste of an idea.
@@zx10bkby the time you buy a ZX6R, you might as well have bought a used ZX10R
@@zx10bk Yeah, but I want the inline 4 screaming, but not the power of the 636. I had a 636 for a few years and loved it, but the extra power was waisted on me.
@@zx10bk if you mission is to ride on track, max HP isn’t always faster ! Also the zx6r is kinda a whole different beast !
Flash ecu ninja 400 will.never catch it if riders are even close to same skill.level.
Done
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@@Theshayman good channel my friend
@Aiden Mornay thank you brotha! I’m trying to entertain and Educate!
Nobody cares @ any 400 (triple S, double XX, quadruple RRRRRR whatever) when it's $9500 ! 🤷
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