@@InfernosReaper yea the whole fuckin political system being dumped into one person. Like the hokage deals with almost every possible fucking thing in the village and he is chosen by being the strongest fighter :) Of course I am gonna get Mike Tyson to do some paperwork for me lol
@@HienNguyen-cs1md Yeah, not even beginning to understand the logic there... or how the ninja villages are accountable to the government proper of their respective nations and then that just gets forgotten entirely after a while.
@@InfernosReaper the world building is just so poor yet early on the writer keep trying to kinda expand it. The plot and the world mostly revolves around Naruto and if it's convenient then it is
@@HienNguyen-cs1md Some people who give writing advise say to not work out a lot of stuff ahead of time, but when it's major stuff that greatly affects the world as a whole, they probably should at least put a little thought into it, right?
Then it turns out he has a Nigerian prince relative. Then it turns out he is the lost son of a late billionaire Then it turns out Warren buffet left his entire company to him
1. "Hard work trumps talent" was the central theme for the chunin exams and the goal Lee aspires to 2. "Overcoming one's Hatred/Destiny to further understand one another" is the overarching theme of the series as well as something Naruto needed to do(its why he has the infamous "talk no jutsu") 3. Almost every arc in the series had its own theme to follow, but as stated above, the main theme of the series definitely isn't about hard work trumping talent(you would have a better argument for "hard work", but you all get SUPER specific that it NEEDS to trump talent) 4. If you thought the MC was going to follow what is essentially Lee's theme(who LOST against Gaara in the Chunin Exams) when he has the 9 Tails(that he used against Neji that same arc), then we will just have to agree to disagree
@@jeremiemboma I think the joke is that since blue words on wikipedia are clickable links, meaning it leads to a page dedicated entirely to that specific word. So I guess since both of narutos parents turned out to not be complete randoms but very important, elite people of the society and important to the lore of Naruto verse. Therefore wikipedia dedicates entire separate pages to them. So when they appear on a random article, their names are usually highlighted blue. Kinda pointing out the hypocrisy in a meta way.
My favourite part of the series was when Sai, who worked under Danzo his entire life and knew nothing about human relationships, wanted to observe Naruto and Sasuke in order to understand what true friendship is. So he basically thinks friendship is the toxic love relationship that Naruto and Sasuke have.
I rewatched Naruto earlier this year and it made me happy when Sai was first introduced, and when Naruto said he wanted to "take" Sasuke back, Sai replied pointing out how Sasuke's basically a traitor and Naruto's being totally delusional. Too bad Kishi decided to water down Sai's personality later on
@Go Time Now I always wanted TenTen to go up against Pain. Her expertise would have been great against Pain's gravitation powers. Just constantly throw shit at him so he uses up all his power and you hit him when he's on his cooldown. They had a few bits of strategy earlier in the series but then it just became whoever has more magic points.... so disappointing.
Nah you completely miss the point if you think this video is truthful to the manga. You have ninja jesus saying "work as hard as you can for peace and forgiveness". It was never about becoming strong or powerlevels. It was a story about Naruto not turning against the people who bullied him and instead be their hero.
For the guy above. What about the ninja kids used for a system that k1lls them most of the time? Prophecy kid "broke" (not really) the cycle of hated but decided to let feudal lords and child missions exist bcs of "peace and forgiveness"? Try to be less hypocrit if you answer
@@joaop4585 well in fact in Boruto, that I didn't really pay attention to, there's established peace so Ninja's have become more of a cultural inheritance than a real soldier army. The existence of Ninja's and it's hypocrisy has been like the main plot line since the Pain arc.
Boruto : Hey dad, now that you're the Hokage and saved the world like 5 times, why haven't you stopped slavery in the Hyuga family ? Naruto : I believe in it
Boruto: Hey dad, why cant you just have your clones do all your hokage work for you and spend time with us? Naruto: Cause i believe you'll be fine without me
@@monstergelo1072 Which is stupid cause of that birthday scene. If the clones can just randomly disappear like that then it causes more issue with the relationships of his fucking family. Which might not have been an issue if he hadnt make more clones than necessary to do dumb menial tasks that mean nothing in the grand scheme of things. Like taking packages around!
I legit think that Mr. Ruto's childhood messed him up. You see people saying he just wanted attention, right? Pulling pranks, saying he was going to be Hokage just to get people to give him the time of day, etc... and then, finally, when he gets recognition and 'love' from the whole village, it's only because he's saved them all. So let's say that sticks with him majorly. Save the people, they like you. Saving is helping. Can't always be a Pein to beat to save, but you can help, so Naruto decides to keep everyone loving him, he'll HELP everyone. And that sad goal follows him into adulthood and poisons his relationship with his family, because even if he doesn't realize it, he's still the same attention hungry, family-deprived child he was when he was 12. Or something. Just a random thought.
Sweechie. Naruto thought smart. He foresaw the future of our political climate in the west and made a *recruit difficulty* button (sexy jutsu). Now all he needs to do is join twitch and be a titty streamer. 😁
Ercushka Kulmetov that is his own jutsu and honestly has never really failed when he needed it. That's quite a jutsu he has when you think about it as it has been proven that even a higher being such as u kygua can be affected by it as it distracts the opponent at the very least. Allowing you to blind side them if you use it right.
@@razkable Guy was NOT given powers by his dad. He was trained by his dad, and he can't use fucking ninjutsu in a ninja world, the biggest handicap imaginable. Sakura had a literal hokage and sannin train her, and she's still not even 1% of Guy's power. It is not even close, Guy is the strongest mf who got his powers by sheer practice and a strong will
@@karayi7239I think guy is the strongest character in naruto verse (excluding literal gods,borrowed power like tailed beast, EMS as you need another eye for EMS)
Also a thing that really bothers me is how Naruto wanted to change the whole ninja system, how people are treated and ridiculed just beacuse they were born a certain way and were affected by factors outside of their control. But what does he do when he becomes hokage?? Absolutely nothing, he doesnt change anything and even becomes a shitty father. Honestly this manga had such great potential but its ruined by random bs and bad writing it just makes everything frustrating
Naruto even says to Neji at the end of the fight that he will change his destiny,NEJi'S destiny of being a slave forever. How? By changing the hyuga clan system once he will become hogake...but he doesn't,and neji dies as a slave. Just another example of something that Naruto said and has no resolution whatsoever. There are still slaves in the village,still child soldiers,ninja are still used as weapons (the whole teaching/lesson of haku & zabuza also goes no where). It's like the writer had great ideas but he didn't know how to execute them correctly,and connect them with the main plot in a coherent way. Naruto should've went travelling and see the world on his own before becoming hokage imo.
One more point that doesn't make sense: All the later power-ups aside, the people who run the village probably would have known about Naruto's heritage and the potential of leeching off of Kyubi's chakra, so they should have given him the hokage-training-treatment from the get-go. Instead, they let him waste away as a ramen-slurping loser? What a waste of resources!
what annoyed me the most it that DAnzo and those undercovered ninjas that had at his dispossal were not even mentioned or seen around Naruto, the fucking power weapon of the village and the son of the hero that saved it, since Shippuden, the moment he decided to make Itachi a good guy and shift the blame to Danzo, Danzo all of a sudden appeared to be the mastermind manipulator.Which indicated that he had no idea in the beggining of how he wanted the show to go on and when he decided at teh starto of Shippuden all the world building up unitll that point was thrown out of the window
Naruto is the living embodiment of “pull yourself up by the bootstraps. We get the same 24 hours, you just ain’t doing enough” from a legacy Harvard Chad who’s dad rowed crew.
That's why Naruto failed thrice to graduate, right? That's why Naruto learned to walk on the tree so easily that he collapsed with exhaustion, right? That's why Naruto managed to learn Jutsus like Sharingan users, right? Cry harder, lazy donkey.
Naruto pulled himself up, with only a small loan of one million chakra from the fox living inside him. And then a bailout when his first investment failed by his reincarnated past life. He's just like you and me!
@@aprinnyonbreak1290 Sasuke, Itachi, Kakashi, Nagato, Madara pulled themselves up with Sharingan, Rinnegan copying abilities that's just small portion of the eyes full capabilities. Neji, Hinata, Hanabi, other Hyugas just used gentle fist, Byakugan X ray and 360 vision, a small part of Byakugan full abilities. Naruto gets stripped of Kurama, is this close to death and gets saved by Obito and that's bailout by reincarnated life, gift power 💀 What about Sasuke and his Rinnegan? If you hate Naruto so much, just stop watching. Naruto rubs your closed wounds of failure and you get hurt that Naruto got success. Stop watching anime, lazy bum.
Agree with both of you. Naruto had the same 24hrs. The same 24 hours of being trained by the top notch, Kakashi, Yamato and Jiraya (+ weird 4ss frogs) bcs of the red-dawg that his Harvard-chad father put on him and his chakra-rich-girl mother gave him
I never realized how stupid the branch family concept is. They act surprised that Neji is strong even though he is genetically the same as the main family.
the entire neji character it feels like exists to ship naruto and hinata and make it heroic and not unatural..but then you have the pain moment where neji is not in the village so...
Thats kind of the point not a flaw. Its their tradition but they want to show it was stupid. Pog acts like its bad that a show that shows this tradition is wrong has a tradition thats wrong
@@user-fo6ej3cl5u No. No on every account. First, there's many better ways you could write the family branch system. Second, just because pog calls out one thing, doesn't mean he said the show is bad. Remember this equation; criticism=/=hate.
*Cough cough* hinata *Cough cough* Edit don’t text me on some bullshit talking about “she was out of chakra” go read the comments I'm not going to repeat my self to every hinata fan. So I'll say this one time and one time only I don't give a fuck about any female in naruto they are all badly written characters anyway. it was a simple joke pertaining to what the original comment said get over it.
Naruto defenders will say that he worked hard for his powers, but the point remains that the powers he worked hard for are nothing compared to the powers he simply inherited
Inherited.😂😂 Yep lazy donkey. Have a beast inside you that hates you so much and that beast being the reason your parents were taken away from you at the day you were born. Having an organization that's hell bent to capture you and you living in fear everyday. Being this close to end of life and somehow got saved by Obito and Sage only to be branded as the one who inherited the powers. There would be no Naruto, dumb donkey. Keep your laziness to yourself, lazy donkey.
if you take away 9 tails in the beginning of the series, his hard work will never amount to anything. He will either still be a nobody with no talent or just plain dead All his hard work would never get him out of the rank of genin... Scratch that, he'd be dead in his childhood, in that flashback where he steals the scrolls of shadow clones, he wouldn't be able to make the clones to beat the guy who was trying to kill him and would be dead right there and then
@@crimsonpotemkin how do you know Naruto would never make it? Naruto would have his parents if he wasn't a jinchuriki. That's even better. The confidence of a lazy donkey that Naruto would be dead in his childhood. 👏 Get your laziness somewhere else. If you could never achieve anything, stay where you belong to and stop spreading BS.
@@crimsonpotemkinIf you take away the 9 tails, he wouldn’t even be in a lot of the situations he was in during the series. Often times he was targeted for being the Jinchuriki. If you only alter him having the 9 tails, he’d likely still become a strong shinobi. He would still be the son of the 4th Hokage, an Uzumaki, and an Ashura reincarnate. He wouldn’t be overpowered, but he’d still be able to doing things like multiple shadow clones, rasengans, and mastering sage mode.
in retrospect, Naruto teaches us the most real lesson out of all the other anime. if you are born rich, u stay rich and other less rich ppl have to destory themselves(work tremendously hard) to even for a single moment be near your amount of wealth. never have we ever seen a more real lesson been taught to kids teens and young adults
@@SenpaiD119 Because for all of the shows attempts to make Naruto the underdog, it ends up making him basically jesus in effect. All the gifts and benefits he has end up helping him somehow while at the same time, much like bible and the original jesus, he has to suffer to "build his character". Except he never really does or the plot coontrives itself to make sure he suffers more due to his gifts because plot reasons.
@@crazygamer4260 Naruto won the lottery. Like, five times. And he didn't even buy a ticket. The only time he had to work hard was when he was a sperm swimming to his mother's egg. And even then, you cant be sure.
Dream Chaser I disagree, he still had to work hard, despite all the gifts he got. He had poor chakra contril thanks to the fox, and he wasn't exactly the smartest. He got as far as he did thanks to help from the most important people of the ninja world. For me, what really invalidated all of that was the reincarnation bit, since that was what really made him destined to be great.
All this effort to get one microwave burrito. Leaf Village's economy is in shambles Remember those moments that the show briefly brings into focus that all this is happening in a more or less modern world? I giggle madly at the thought of the police pulling up in the middle of the war arc, dispensing some riot control, and tasing then arresting Madara.
Then you realized Neji was right all along about destiny and fate. Naruto being the reincarnation of Asura. Kishimoto had Neji killed off because he knew too much
The hate he has for naruto's character is the hate I have for how much kishimoto botched itachi by turning him from a grey character to the whitest of white.
I have even more hate for the people who defend Kishimoto or shonen mangaka in general. They well always make the excuses for their bad writing and say "they are over worked."
Rock Lee being the MC of the show would have been insane. Only his fight against Gaara got as much hype as Naruto vs Sasuke. And that’s exactly because of how genuine, hard-working and determined Rock Lee is. Naruto should have been a SC like the rest of the jinchurki. Notice how people aren’t really interested in the other jinchuriki except Naruto simply because they are pretty much vessels for a supernatural creature. Naruto is better than them simply because he’s the MC😂 Rock Lee as the MC, having everything against him and managing to reach a lvl of power similar or even stronger than 8 gates Guy, going against all these super gifted villains, would have been perfection😭
CAPA Naruto never had a choice, he was never going to become evil. He was ashuras reincarnation and he was good so was hashirama. Sasuke on the other hand was the one destined to be evil.
@@capa1575 I don't think Sasuke broke the cycle. He still tried to destroy the village and stuff. The difference is Madara was still alive. And when Naruto and Sasuke defeated him, to me, is what ended the cycle.
@Jotaro97 if you dont like the fate you were dealt go out and try to change it it's kinda simple If I'm destined to be broke my whole life I'm not gonna sulk about it I'm gonna try my best to change it
I love how you perfectly describe all my problems i have with naruto and how it is poorly written Yet somehow others think it's the best piece of fiction
@@garywebb2432 no he was not He perfectly described and explained all problems he had with the show multiple times with proof If you can't accept that then you shouldn't state negative opinions yourself
@@_Kronos_ no he didn't he misunderstood several concepts lmaoo for example hard work beating talent when TALENT FAILS TO WORK HARD would be a theme of naruto not "hard work beats talent period" cause SASUKE AND NEJI TRAIN TOO LMAOO and thats just 1 example of why this video sucks
@@garywebb2432 The internet in a nutshell - one guy making a well-reasoned and detailed argument one way, the other just going "nuh uh, you're wrong" like a retarded child and declaring victory.
The major problem with writing like this is that the creators misunderstand the difference between ambition and motivation. Naturo is extremely ambitious. He puts so much energy into impressing other people. But he lacks any motivation to actually do anything.
Haha haha I was watching and reading the comment at the same time as we all do and it's funny cause I read this line simultaneously with the narrator, love iT when that happens.
@@missinglinkk8936 somehow, from a dude who depleted all his energy and had to dig a hole. Either way, Naruto really should've lost that fight by a count
@@InfernosReaper It's like in a MMA fight how it looks like one dude has the other on the ropes, but then the dude on the defensive hits the guy with a OK punch.
@@HuntertheWraithDragon Not really, because in a MMA fight, Naruto would've lost by count, because he *should* have lost by count in this fight. Also, how in the hell did he manage to dig a hole underground and come out right above Neji? Like, I didn't think about it too much the first time I saw that fight, but on the second time, it was like "wait, how in hell?!"
My favorite thing is Kiba literally knocked him out for like 5 minutes in the chunin exams but because he’s the main character the ref didn’t react and let him get back up lol
@@snknero9935 Cheat, so is it cheating that Neji uses the byakugan and taijutsu techniques which were given to him since birth lol. Naurot bared the burden of hatred, kurama caused more bad for him then good so letting him get a tiny amount of chakra is more like rent.
Small note: Kakashi is also related to a previous hokage, he was the student of Naruto's dad together with Obito and a dead girl. He is also the son of one of the greatest ninja's of the village aside from the hokages.
Lmao they really got into an incentious power vaccum with that. Literally all the hokage are connected, sometimes in more ways than one. Leaf village wildin TF out
Kakashi's father would have literally become the 4th hokage had he not ended his life due to certain reasons .Heck he was an even more legendary ninja than the entire sannin . That most certainly says something about .The real reason why kakashi is no way near his father's power whilst having the potential to even eclipse him is simply due to sheer laziness and lack of effort in comparison to someone like might guy who trains day and night to be equal to the likes of kakashi .Had might guy possessed the same potential as kakashi ,he would have become the hokage a decade earlier than kakashi did
The Thunder village breaking their treaty by trying to kidnap a girl, then getting caught and trying to double down is the equivalent of a thief breaking into your home, slipping on an ice cube in your kitchen, and suing you for damages.
But Naruto in the last arc did nothing but deny the circle of reincarnation and make up with Sasuke, despite their "fate" being to fight to the death. And if you're talking about the frog's prophecy, it was changed twice in one arc, so it's not really a set-in-stone fate marker.
Bratanov I think that was Kishimoto's intention but he didn't convey that well Considering the frog's prophecy was never for them to "fight to the death" but it was more "you'll fight somebody with op eye abilities" Like nothing Naruto did necessarily "went against fate" considering the exact same thing happened in one Hashirsma and Madaras battle where they just kissed and madeup and ruled over the village for a while.
By "fight to the death" part I meant the reincarnation of Indra and Ashura part, not the frog's prophecy. The frog's prophecy changed when 1)Jiraya made a choice to send Naruto the message before his death, and 2)When Naruto chose to convince Nagato instead of beating him, after which the frog said that he didn't expect there to be two "children of prophecy". And your example with Hashirama and Madara doesn't make a lot of sense, since they eventually DID fight to the death, fulfilling the prophecy. It was never stated that their first fight would be the one.
The problem with Naruto is that it proposes a hypothesis and then continues to prove that hypothesis wrong as the show progresses, but still seems to be under the illusion that it’s proving it right. Yes, hard work was necessary for Naruto to get where he did after a point, but he also couldn’t have done it without a hell of a lot of luck, prime genetics, and political connections he did not solely earn but gained by virtue of his parentage. It’s like when a millionaire’s child calls themself self-made when they only got where they were because they started with their parents’ money and connections. Yes, he did do far more with those things than others might have in his position, and he did suffer plenty in his childhood, but that does not mean his hypothesis and the hypothesis of the entire series was proven wrong through him. It reeks of nepo baby trying to justify how they earned their position by saying they had to work hard for it. Just because you worked hard, doesn’t mean you started on an even playing field with everyone else. You had privileges and advantages others could only dream of and you would not have made it to where you are without them unless you got incredibly, miraculously lucky. That’s the story of Natuto and it’s telling that he doesn’t realize this himself, but Sasuke and Neji have since day one. Naruto didn’t prove Neji wrong in their chunin exam fight, he proved himself wrong and made Neji’s point for him, all while believing he did the opposite. Big face-palm moment right there.
1. Neji talks about destiny and how everyone has a predetermined fate. Naruto disagrees with this and explains that destiny shouldn't be used as a crutch to be a jerk, like Neji is when attempting to murder Hinata or talking down to Naruto himself. 2. So was Neji right? Everyone seems to think so, but why? Is it because Naruto is the child of prophecy? Well, it was stated that the child of prophecy would either bring peace to the world OR destroy it. The simple fact that Naruto has both agency and a choice in the outcome already puts Neji's values on shaky ground. 3. BUT! You still disagree with me. Why? Because Naruto is the reincarnation of Ashura? Well, that's funny because, as Ashura's reincarnation, Naruto is destined to meet and battle with Indra's reincarnation, Sasuke. Now Ashura did hope that a future incarnation of himself could resolve things peacefully, but his intention doesn't matter as his actions contributed to a cycle that the Sage of Six Paths feared would continue when Sasuke wanted to have his final battle with Naruto. 4. DESTINY ITSELF, the concept Neji spoke about, ordained that Naruto(as Ashura's reincarnation) would do battle with Sasuke(Indra's reincarnation), and continue the cycle of hatred. This path where the two could potentially kill each other might have very well been the catalyst that pushed Naruto to fulfill the evil side of his prophecy in destroying the world(among other things), made even more evident with the treatment he received growing up as a Jinchuriki(that made him hate the world back for a time), and the antagonist that reflected his character(challenging his views, and in some cases, trying to make Naruto fall as low as they did).
1. "Hard work trumps talent" was the central theme for the chunin exams and the goal Lee aspires to 2. "Overcoming one's Hatred/Destiny to further understand one another" is the overarching theme of the series as well as something Naruto needed to do(its why he has the infamous "talk no jutsu") 3. Almost every arc in the series had its own theme to follow, but as stated above, the main theme of the series definitely isn't about hard work trumping talent(you would have a better argument for "hard work", but you all get SUPER specific that it NEEDS to trump talent) 4. If you thought the MC was going to follow what is essentially Lee's theme(who LOST against Gaara in the Chunin Exams) when he has the 9 Tails(that he used against Neji that same arc), then we will just have to agree to disagree.
😊 I totally disagree with his criticism of Naruto being lazy and a hypocrite. In fact, I believe that Naruto has put in a tremendous amount of effort within his capabilities. He seem to have forgotten that Naruto is an orphan who has been living on his own. Have he taken a look at his classmates? Do he think they are putting in more effort than Naruto? What motivates them to work hard? It's because they have parents and siblings to support them in practicing ninjutsu. Do he think Shikamaru invented the Shadow Possession Jutsu on his own? It was his father who guided him. In the show, it's shown that Sasuke's brother would practice shuriken techniques with him and even guided him in the Fireball Jutsu. Other classmates have family members teaching them ninjutsu, like Hinata and Neji training together in their family dojos. As for calling Naruto lazy and not striving to learn ninjutsu, can you imagine having to study on your own without anyone to encourage or guide you? It's a painful situation. I believe that growing up in a self-motivated and self-learned environment, Naruto has worked relatively hard. Imagine coming home to an empty house and having no one to help you with difficult math problems or no one to supervise your homework. your grades are bound to suffer. Considering Naruto's growth environment with no guidance or training from anyone, isn't it natural that his ninja skills and techniques would appear to be inferior to those of his classmates?. And don't forget, when he was learning the Rasengan, there wasn't a day when he was lazing around. There were times when he practiced until he collapsed in the forest and then woke up to continue training. Does that sound lazy to you? Furthermore, it's absurd to accuse him of being a hypocrite. Naruto has a strong moral compass. Apart from playing pranks, he hardly ever did anything wrong. He's essentially a good-hearted and kind young man. He's willing to sacrifice himself to protect his friends and the village. In simple terms, if you were in danger and asked for Naruto's help, he would definitely shed blood to save you. How does that make him a hypocrite? He'd only be a hypocrite " IF " he was saving people just for the cash or for the fame. I believe that Naruto act of saving his friends and the villagers is absolutely selfless and just doing the right thing , If you really insist on repaying him , maybe just treating him to a bowl of ramen would be more than enough...your evidence for calling him a hypocrite because you think he's lazy Additionally, you seem to criticize Naruto for relying on the Nine-Tails' power. What's wrong with that? As long as he uses it for good deeds, isn't that what matters? For instance, if he saves your life, would you really care if he used the Nine-Tails' power instead of his own abilities? As long as his actions are virtuous, who cares if he relies on the Nine-Tails?
@@user-cb3cj4kz1lJesus Christ ,man .The story of Naruto himself is being referred as one that is hypocritical in nature in the video .Not necessarily the character itself regardless of how poorly written it is and the fact that logical and persuasive arguements can be made in favour of Naruto being a hypocrite himself
@@SherlockHolmesb-kp4ru What are you even saying? This guy straight up calls Naruto stupid, lazy, and a hypocritical man-baby at the end of the video 41:40 How can you say it's not necessarily the character himself?
Exactly ! He didn't even learn the basics of his innate element in those 3 years .What the heck did he even do in these 3 years when you compare the dramatical increase of his own power in such a short timespan . It is ridiculous as to why he was so freaking weak after training with jiraiya for years .He more than likely spent all that time helping jiraiya to write his porn novels and movies
Yeah i kinda mad at it like you could make an arm for this bastard but could not make a leg for the guy who actually buys time for our piece of shit mc to revive from the dead.
Naruto is easily one of the most absurd series i've watched. It never stays true to the ideas it's supposed to be representing. No other shonen to my knowledge has this problem.
1. "Hard work trumps talent" was the central theme for the chunin exams and the goal Lee aspires to 2. "Overcoming one's Hatred/Destiny to further understand one another" is the overarching theme of the series as well as something Naruto needed to do(its why he has the infamous "talk no jutsu") 3. Almost every arc in the series had its own theme to follow, but as stated above, the main theme of the series definitely isn't about hard work trumping talent(you would have a better argument for "hard work", but you all get SUPER specific that it NEEDS to trump talent) 4. If you thought the MC was going to follow what is essentially Lee's theme(who LOST against Gaara in the Chunin Exams) when he has the 9 Tails(that he used against Neji that same arc), then we will just have to agree to disagree.
Naruto emphasizes the other person's values and plans by saying, 'That is wrong, and I will try to break the chain of hatred,' but he himself does not mention at all where and how the plan is wrong or how to create true peace. He just keep repeating empty cries of "You're wrong! I'm right, trust me!" and when that doesn't work, instead of a logical rebuttal, he just appeals to emotions like "You wanted to become Hokage too."
Not really. The standard Rinnegan does give some pretty powerful abilities, which could be why only 2 people were shown to unlock it as opposed to being given someone else's eyes, however it's not as if it makes someone omnipotent for example.
Telekinesis, soul steal, summoning, healing, energy absorption, telekinesis, and the asura path basically gives you every other generic superpower if you use it creatively
@@eidolon1407 Well, the Deva path can more accurately be described as control of gravitational force (although the anime does take some liberties with this concept) and experienced Rinnegan users like Nagato have been shown to be able to fly using this path. The Ashura path can only do 2 things; create extra body parts ie arms, extra faces, etc. (to more closely resemble the Ashura of Hindu and Buddhist teachings) and use of traditional weaponry ie blades, explosives, lasers. The Rinnegan does give some generic super powers, invisibility is one such example, however most exist outside of the Ashura path.
@@quote8066 The Naruto fandom has some of the best fanfiction out there. I gave up on the series a long time before it ended, but I still read fics from time to time.
Lmao I've always felt this way about naruto Like bruhh they try to make it sound like having the nine tails inside of him is a bad thing And then it bails him out of everything and it's ridiculous
1. Killed his parents 2. Got him isolated 3. Bailed him out solely to slowly take over(which he nearly succeeded in doing of it wasn't for the 4th hokage) 4. Nearly killed him 5. Nearly killed his friends 6. If he didn't have it, he wouldn't have been in most of the situations that made it necessary
@@thewiseyounglad2699 1. Technically it was Obito who did and even then Naruto forgave him too easily so it's a moot point 2. Yeah this was a source of angst early on but it's negated by the social advantage he quickly gets as an OP shinobi because of his endless pools of chakra 3. Kurama never took over 4. He's alive isn't he? 5. None of Naruto's friends were harmed because of the nine tails. 6. If Naruto didn't have the Kyuubi, he would have died during the Land of Waves arc, let alone the chunin exams against Orochimaru, or against Pain, and so on. No matter how much you twist it, Kurama is an advantage to Naruto rather than a hindrance since the start of the series. If you want an inner demon who actually makes the MC's life worse, watch Jujutsu Kaisen.
@NotDaveGahan 1. TECHNICALLY Kuruma killed Naruto's parents with his nail. Forgiving Kurama was something Naruto HAD to do unless he be made a hypocrite with his whole "cycle of hatred speech"(didn't even forgive him for a while, they wuite literally had to join hands cuz tge alternative was worse) 2. Naruto's isolation affected him until the Pain arc(that ends when he saves the village), and left him with emotional issues he had to work out after that when he had to train to master the 9 Tails chakra 3. End of Pain arc, Kurama DID take over, Minato simply reversed the process 4. Say that to someone who survived a near death situation and see if they came out of it perfectly fine(this point was kinda stupid) 5. Sakura got harmed 6. If Naruto didn't have Kurama, he would have lived a normal life away from the bullshit that was the main story I'm jot saying that the 9 Tails WASNT a benefit, I'm just tired of people saying that the drawbacks was miniscule in comparison.
2:30 You know that Kishimoto is running out of ideas or just being lazy when a lot of characters in the series feels more like a Naruto rather than giving them a whole new different personality.
Can't agree more... Rock Lee and Neji deserved the development that Naruto and Sasuke had It's sad to see that is going to happen again with Boruto being the protagonist instead of Himawari in this new generation, always letting interesting characters in secondary roles... *sigh*
Considering both Naruto and Sasuke actually stole Lee's Taijutsu in order to get where they are now. You aren't wrong. If they had never fought an opponent like Lee. They never would've realized the importance of Taijutsu and speed.
Neji was born in the second strongest clan and rock lee has unbelieveable talent in tai-jutsu (no idea how to write it). Everbody in naruto is born strong.
@Itachi Is superior to you , if Kishimoto was just going to have Sasuke and Naruto being descendants of Alien Gods from the Moon then I think that the series should have ended with Sasuke and Itachi killing all of the villages.
@Itachi Is superior to you , hell the conflicts of war ending the series in Peace ☮️ ✌️ with Sasuke, Itachi, and the rest of the Akatsuki would have made the series a much better series to watch, read, and play than in Naruto Shippuden all the way to the current Boruto Arc, and I’d be even fine if they wanted to do a series like Boruto with the Akatsuki then I’d be throwing out endless money to Kishimoto until he dies of old age with his endless wealth.
Naruto is full of plot-holes that condemned the show to me. Like, everyone during his childhood avoids him for being like the murderer monster itself but when he grows up no obe realizes he always had this power? God damn Kishimoto
All of the parents told their kids to stay away from him. Most, if not all, kids were never taught that he had the 9 tales. The 3rd Hokage made it illegal to talk about it.
maybe thats why he is the comic relief character in naruto universe. a subtle statement showing that hard work is a joke and in order to make significant impact in life, you need to be destined for greatness, a reincarnation of someone great in the past, and craft the ultimate power known as Talk No Jutsu. screw hard work, babe
You do realized that destiny still doesn't define everything right? The series even blatantly spells out that naruto and sasuke defied destiny by being the first time indra and ashura overcame thier conflict. It still shows that destiny can be defied.
@@Nunmanji Yeah, I get that, but that doesn't change everything else about the series on how destiny is the one thing that made everything happen in the series. Hard work, the main message of the series, is ultimately made pointless because destiny and natural talent wins out overall.
Nunmanji naruto being some sort of prophecy child is what prove that destiny and fate are legit the sage of 6 path literally confirm that when naruto was holding hands with all the tailed beasts
Alex Kennard Don't let this distract you from the fact that IDGAF what BS eye power Kakashi has Might Guy (the objectively hardest working person in the series) will always be stronger than Kakashi That stupid plotline with the mainguy teleporting back to the living world never happened
Neji: You can't change your destiny. Naruto: No, you're wrong. We can change our own destiny Later Neji: *dies while protecting the main family basically fulfilling his destiny* Naruto: *the chosen child*, *Incarnation of Asura*, *child of the fourth hokage*, and *the child of prophecy* Neji: Dude... uncool
Also one thing that is worth to mention when it comes to the whole Hard Work vs. Talent debate is this, hard work beats talent until talent works hard.
naruto is like, the biggest missed potential of all time. It is and was such a juggernaught for it's iconography and helped kick start anime in the west. But man, a story about ninjas and their tactics and fighting upwards as an underdog really flew out the window early on. The whole point of real life ninjas was to fight back as an under dog, they had something good going for a while there. A shame it had to die as a second rate machismo magical girl show with extra fighting. Really, naruto was primed for 2 other core ideals instead of hard work trumping natural talent. Never giving up, and fighting with your demons. I use to think that narutos whiskers on hisface, and his instant mastery with shadow clones was a subtle hint that he was not fully human. The fox was literally a part of him, and made up part of his personality and power set. It's initially why he could use the sexy jutsu so effortlessly, because historically the nine tailed fox would take on the shape of a beautiful woman to lead people astray to their doom. The fox didn't need naruto, but naruto needed the fox because it was a part of his soul. If it were removed, we would no longer have naruto. No shadow clones, no sexy jutsu, and his personality would essentially be gone. Just a husk. But the damn fox is evil. Before they strong armed the whole madara bullshit in, it attacked the village cuz it was a bastard that wanted to murder. Sealing it away in a helpless naked baby was a last resort, and they had to raise the devil child cuz if it dies then the demon comes back. Everyone hates naruto for what he is but they tolerate him because they have to so they can not be murdered by a giant evil fox. My pet theory was that in a world of secrecy, misdirection, poison, or off the wall berserk figheters, naruto was a balance of technique and raw power, his clones literally being a technique manifestation of his mastery over ninja magic and his willingness to do something 100 times as many times as the next guy. Him experiencing what his clones do should have been a key point of the narrative from day one I don't know where the hell this Dragon ball hard work message became the point of the series when it's extremely not true. Hell, Lee was both the proof that hard work pays off, and a caution about recklessly working hard. His extreme attitude nearly got him killed against gara because while his extreme efforts went a long ways, he was not prepared for every scenario, meaning you can't just throw the best punch and win. Naruto had the technique, tools, and ability to think on the fly to make up for what the rock lee brute force and training couldn't. But then it turned into happy kingdom hearts magical slap fight "it was all a part of the plan" now face my high numbered whooshy whooshy magic powers oh my persona will fix everything without a care in the world. At least the merch and branding was cool. The world feel is really the selling point of naruto
1. "Hard work trumps talent" was the central theme for the chunin exams and the goal Lee aspires to 2. "Overcoming one's Hatred/Destiny to further understand one another" is the overarching theme of the series as well as something Naruto needed to do(its why he has the infamous "talk no jutsu") 3. Almost every arc in the series had its own theme to follow, but as stated above, the main theme of the series definitely isn't about hard work trumping talent(you would have a better argument for "hard work", but you all get SUPER specific that it NEEDS to trump talent) 4.If you thought the MC was going to follow what is essentially Lee's theme(who LOST against Gaara in the Chunin Exams) when he has the 9 Tails(that he used against Neji that same arc), then we will just have to agree to disagree
1. Neji talks about destiny and how everyone has a predetermined fate. Naruto disagrees with this and explains that destiny shouldn't be used as a crutch to be a jerk, like Neji is when attempting to murder Hinata or talking down to Naruto himself. 2. So was Neji right? Everyone seems to think so, but why? Is it because Naruto is the child of prophecy? Well, it was stated that the child of prophecy would either bring peace to the world OR destroy it. The simple fact that Naruto has both agency and a choice in the outcome already puts Neji's values on shaky ground. 3. BUT! You still disagree with me. Why? Because Naruto is the reincarnation of Ashura? Well, that's funny because, as Ashura's reincarnation, Naruto is destined to meet and battle with Indra's reincarnation, Sasuke. Now Ashura did hope that a future incarnation of himself could resolve things peacefully, but his intention doesn't matter as his actions contributed to a cycle that the Sage of Six Paths feared would continue when Sasuke wanted to have his final battle with Naruto. 4. DESTINY ITSELF, the concept Neji spoke about, ordained that Naruto(as Ashura's reincarnation) would do battle with Sasuke(Indra's reincarnation), and continue the cycle of hatred. This path where the two could potentially kill each other might have very well been the catalyst that pushed Naruto to fulfill the evil side of his prophecy in destroying the world(among other things), made even more evident with the treatment he received growing up as a Jinchuriki(that made him hate the world back for a time), and the antagonist that reflected his character(challenging his views, and in some cases, trying to make Naruto fall as low as they did).
1. Naruto vs. Kakuzu, Pain, and Obito 2. Sasuke vs. Deidara, Itachi, and Danzo 3. Sakura vs. Sasori These fights and many others used a great deal of strategy and deception throughout shippuden. Plus, OG Naruto had: 1. 4th Hokage vs 9 Tails 2. Naruto vs Gaara 3. Sannin 3 way deadlock These were basically Kaiju fights. OG and Shippuden aren't that different(besides the aliens, of course).
Sorry but DBZ got anime popular in the west in the late 90s. Naruto honestly felt like it was riding coattails off DBZ success.. you have Naruto who is basically Goku and you have Saskue who is Vegeta and the only two characters that matter are those two sound familiar. And they aren’t exact copies but very similar characters.
@Sweet Dreams Exactly. Society is full of hypocrites when it comes to hate and revenge. And people complain about how bad the world is when they are the problems themselves Narutotards in general are the reason misanthropes exist
Idk for some reason some part of me wished that sasuke destroyed the hidden leaf they are all a bunch of hypocrites after discriminating uchihas causes so many wars sending children to fight them they consider themselves noble heroes and every other village are shown in a bar light
What's funny is the fact that, as you said, one of the main messages of Naruto was to prove that through hard work, one can achieve anything, but half of the cast of Naruto didn't get the chance to achieve anything even despite having the drive and putting in the work because Kishimoto sidelined half of the cast, so they couldn't have ever gotten the chance to do anything they dreamed of as a result. Hell, there was even a whole filler episode (I can't remember which episode or the name of it, so don't ask lmao) that really showcased how what's supposed to be the point of Naruto isn't actually true and that hard work won't really get you anywhere if you aren't naturally talented or talented enough to where you'd at least be average. Hypocrisy at its finest lmao
Kishimoto never wanted any of those characters. He just wanted the series to be about Naruto, Sakura, and Sasuke going on missions around the world before his editors made him do a tournament arc instead.
1. "Hard work trumps talent" was the central theme for the chunin exams and the goal Lee aspires to 2. "Overcoming one's Hatred/Destiny to further understand one another" is the overarching theme of the series as well as something Naruto needed to do(its why he has the infamous "talk no jutsu") 3. Almost every arc in the series had its own theme to follow, but as stated above, the main theme of the series definitely isn't about hard work trumping talent(you would have a better argument for "hard work", but you all get SUPER specific that it NEEDS to trump talent) 4. If you thought the MC was going to follow what is essentially Lee's theme(who LOST against Gaara in the Chunin Exams) when he has the 9 Tails(that he used against Neji that same arc), then we will just have to agree to disagree...
@@thewiseyounglad2699 1. Yes and it makes Lee more interesting as a character and they were doing with Naruto to a degree, yet Naruto has never had to work for anything. 2. It's ridiculous it works especially on certain villains that wouldn't care what Naruto has to say/dead set on their goals/are beyond redemption. 3. Yeah because it's depressing for a show to say "some people are born better and you shouldn't try", especially in battle Shonen. Plus it definitely is somewhat when Naruto is an outcast with no real training so his success SHOULD be a triumph against all odds but instead he's born special. 4. It's a better theme and still works with Naruto's backstory 4.
@Lionard Kirsch I still think his death was pointless because they're probably hundreds of different ways a writer could have set them up. The story just used the easiest and most dramatic way. Neji died for drama although I have to admit I liked seeing his goofy ghost.
@Lionard Kirsch true but I still like that hospital scene. Having no regrets despite what happen makes Gai the biggest badass in Naruto. But if it was only his leg that was busted couldn't the doctors just amputate the leg and just give him a new one like how Naruto got a new arm?
@UCPqVBnv3A-pdxzpwaHX67xw Neji should have died protecting Lee. Both of them would have sacrificed themselves for the other but Neji was quicker at the draw symbolically winning their rivalry. Also kill off Ino cause I don't care about her don't care about her son and mind control wouldn't help her in the war. I would say Sakura but the series would try to make you feel sorry that she died and I don't want her to get anymore screen time so she can just disappear.
@ITS bullzie Exactly. Shippuden completely destroyed the message with poor writing. In part 1, power creep was low and jinchuriki, kekkai genkai weren't so op. While they were exclusive sources of power, having one wasnt a requirement to he great. With skill and strategy you could overcome 'empowered' individuals as seen with shikamaru fights, lees fights and even zabuza vs kakashi. In narutos case, kyuubi was a detriment as it was the reason for his poor chakra control. And with naruto being a child, him being the hokage to be acknowledged was believable. And then with haku and then with sasuke you see naruto starting to grow... end of part one was pretty good. The problem is part 2. You would think with narutos new found resolve he would have educated himself. He doesn't really learn. Then kishimoto made naruto a mary sue into having all these abilities and trainers. It would have been more compelling if naruto had to claw to power like kabuto. Naruto started out as an underdog, but he lost that title when kishimoto made him over powered
just realizing naruto's story could've been completed if he just becomes like Jiraiya, traveling the world learning more about the people and himself and possibly being a writer instead of being a hokage
Ikr. Like the simple fact that naruto didn't want revenge on the leaf despite how the village treated him, and the fact that he wanted to be hokage, really annoyed me. His goal should've been " to become the strongest, so I can be acknowledged by everyone, " because I don't think the strongest ninja in the village would be sitting at a desk doing paperwork.
@@hibakhan692I think you miss the part that he becomes strong through the power of bonds and he wants to protect that bonds. He sees the village as his family so doing desk job isn’t too far from being a dad
I feel the need to throw Orochimaru into the ring of Hard Work. While he was born very intelligent, all of his crazy powers were created by his hard work, none of that bullshit madness was just handed to him. He used the power of SCIENCE! magic to improve himself rather than simply being born a freaky snake man.
And the problem is that the bad writing got him too, since all his plans always fails. The only time he shows how powerful he is, is in the fight at the bridge against the 4/5 tails foxy, but even then he had to ran away because he wasn't powerful enough to fight against the half-baked 9 tails. The series always portraits him as a legendary powerful Villain, but he always seems more like a cartoon villain that the powers are capped that is doomed to always fail like Dr. Doofenshmirtz from Phineas and Ferb
Sai: **Makes fun of Naruto’s balls** Naruto: I hate you Obito: **The reason why both Naruto and Sasuke’s childhoods were a living hell** Also Naruto: You are the coolest!
@@hellothere10yearsago97 Or *Kakashi, his teacher who he’s grown close to for the last few years dies* Naruto: meh *Hinata, a girl he’s never had a complete conversation with dies* Naruto: 6 tails
Something I 've always found very confusing is the jinchuriki tail power system. If the 10 tailed beast (juubi) was divided into 10 beasts to weaken it that would mean that every beast including juubi itself should have 1 tail each (because 10 tails divided by 10 beasts equals 1 tail each). The issue is that Shukaku has 1 tail, Matatabi 2 tails, Isobu 3 tails, Son Goku 4 tails, Kokuo 5 tails, Saiken 6 tails, Chomei 7 tails, Gyuki 8 tails and Kurama has 9, which collectively equals 55 tails including juubi. It gets even more confusing since Kurama was revealed to have been "split in half" by Minato before he sealed half inside of Naruto and the other half inside himself. Again this was done to inhibit the beasts power (because the shows logic is that the more tails a beast has the greater its power is.) So why is it that both Kuramas had 9 tails each if 9 divided by 2 equals 4.5 ? All of this would mean: 1. that the beasts were not weakened but had even greater power than they originally had 2. When Naruto absorbed all of the tailed beasts including the other half of Kurama he should have the power of not 10 but instead of 73 tails. So wtf was the point of it all...
I always understood it as the Juubi was divided in half. One half was Kurama (9 tails), the other half was AGAIN divided in half to create Gyuuki (8 tails), the other half got divided again and so on. It would make sense for the Juubi to be 10 tails following this type of division. Though this way does makes Shukaku and Matatabi equal in power, so IDK
In jinchuuriki sense it would also mean that even if every jinchuuriki uses 1 tail of power, Naruto/Kurama's 1 tail would still be more powerfull than all the others, in the sense of quantity of chakra.
Also Naruto having only one half of Kurama sealed inside of him is kinda... hard to make sense, becasue if we follow the idea that I used before it would mean that he has the same quantity of chakra as would Bee/Gyuuki. Although it gets even harder to explain cause he only has the yang chakra of Kurama and Bee has the whole of Gyuuki's chakra (yin and yang)... The Naruto series doesn't really follow much the whole yin and yang thing, you could theoretically try to say that Naruto only has the yang Kurama so he only has those properties but as I said the series doesn't really use that for more than 'genjutsu is yin based and blahblah'
the reason of thoese consistency is simple really, its retcon my guess is that the juubi is not planned from the start,or even until later on shipudden, same with the detail of how minato sealed kurama unlike one piece,nartuo doesnt exactly have cleaar end game so kishimoto is just winging the detail
It's even more than that, like Plague says, He's the reincarnation of a christ analog - fitting because even the fan base calls Nardo and Sauce "The super jesus brothers" after the ending of shippuden.
That's a good analysis,he does work hard though, much more than other side characters (except Lee maybe) so him earning the fruits of that is understandable.
@@DarkAuraLord You know how hard it is to he a christ figure? Try having no friends, and even though you're helping everyone, they still resent you. Keep that up for a few decades see how easy and plot armor filled it is. Naruto had no joke the hardest life, and the highest chance of failure, his upbeat attitude in the face of what he was encountering throughout his childhood is a miracle in itself and why he succeeded more than the nine tails and plot armor. So did sasuke his life was a living nightmare. Great pain enables that great destiny by contrast but only if you can turn it into growth which they did, but that isn't like a plot guarantee naruto and sasuke could have failed at any point but didn't because they never gave up not cause of priveledges afforded them.
His father gave him a small loan of 9 million chakra. Plus the reincarnation of Ninja Jesus's son. Plus related to three of the other hokage Plus related to literal royalty Plus the Uzumaki bloodline Neji was right about fate determining everything, no matter how much Naruto (both the character and the series) claimed otherwise. He just didn't know Naruto had the most ridiculous pedigree in the entire series
Naruto at the beginning: Hard work beats talent, nothing is pre-destined. Naruto at the end: Everything was pre-destined, Naruto is a demi-god and the reincarnation of the creator of the ninja world.
@Go Time Now Dont get me wrong i like naruto but i agree with the retcons it has but stop hyping one piece up i might be a little biased when im critising one piece because i slept through half of the episodes but it has hella retcons
On the bright side in the end they change destiny, ever so slightly. Lol. Cause the reincarnations of Indra and Ashura were destined to fight forever, Naruto and Sasuke broke the cycle. Really the only plot point the show hits. All the other ones were dropped for god powers and destiny.
This was pretty cathartic to watch, embodies all the issues I have with the show. Also I must say one thing, Gaara might be the best written character that wasn't thrown into trash for the sake of the main duo. He was psychotic, lost a fight that forced him to listen, he took the advice and worked his ass off to overcome the mental torment and became someone good without being destined for it.
Gaara as a concept is great, but his character arc was lazily written. How does a character with heaps of trauma go from being a psycho who kills others for sport to become all good just because the MC talked to him? It makes no sense. If you're gonna try to redeem a character like that, make it make sense! Gaara had the potential to become a raw ass villain though.
@@NotDaveGahan Fair but he's barely a secondary character so I let it pass, shinobi do have to mature fast by the world rules but some break those more than others anyway.
😊 I totally disagree with his criticism of Naruto being lazy and a hypocrite. In fact, I believe that Naruto has put in a tremendous amount of effort within his capabilities. He seem to have forgotten that Naruto is an orphan who has been living on his own. Have he taken a look at his classmates? Do he think they are putting in more effort than Naruto? What motivates them to work hard? It's because they have parents and siblings to support them in practicing ninjutsu. Do he think Shikamaru invented the Shadow Possession Jutsu on his own? It was his father who guided him. In the show, it's shown that Sasuke's brother would practice shuriken techniques with him and even guided him in the Fireball Jutsu. Other classmates have family members teaching them ninjutsu, like Hinata and Neji training together in their family dojos. As for calling Naruto lazy and not striving to learn ninjutsu, can you imagine having to study on your own without anyone to encourage or guide you? It's a painful situation. I believe that growing up in a self-motivated and self-learned environment, Naruto has worked relatively hard. Imagine coming home to an empty house and having no one to help you with difficult math problems or no one to supervise your homework. your grades are bound to suffer. Considering Naruto's growth environment with no guidance or training from anyone, isn't it natural that his ninja skills and techniques would appear to be inferior to those of his classmates?. And don't forget, when he was learning the Rasengan, there wasn't a day when he was lazing around. There were times when he practiced until he collapsed in the forest and then woke up to continue training. Does that sound lazy to you? Furthermore, it's absurd to accuse him of being a hypocrite. Naruto has a strong moral compass. Apart from playing pranks, he hardly ever did anything wrong. He's essentially a good-hearted and kind young man. He's willing to sacrifice himself to protect his friends and the village. In simple terms, if you were in danger and asked for Naruto's help, he would definitely shed blood to save you. How does that make him a hypocrite? He'd only be a hypocrite " IF " he was saving people just for the cash or for the fame. I believe that Naruto act of saving his friends and the villagers is absolutely selfless and just doing the right thing , If you really insist on repaying him , maybe just treating him to a bowl of ramen would be more than enough...your evidence for calling him a hypocrite because you think he's lazy Additionally, you seem to criticize Naruto for relying on the Nine-Tails' power. What's wrong with that? As long as he uses it for good deeds, isn't that what matters? For instance, if he saves your life, would you really care if he used the Nine-Tails' power instead of his own abilities? As long as his actions are virtuous, who cares if he relies on the Nine-Tails?
Gaara is literally Naruto if he's written right. They both have similar backstories, but the plot is written to not make Gaara having privilege. He has to work hard to be someone that is being respected (by being empathetic). The plus point is Gaara didn't contradict himself
@@user-cb3cj4kz1l ugh i see self-insert naruto fans here. Okay, what you said about him being kind is right, but as the story went, kishi's writing on naruto contradicted to what naruto is first introduced to us. Naruto taught us that hard work beats talent, but kishi's writing as time goes by we learn that naruto has infamous ninja bloodline, the political allies who knew his family. Hard work? Nah, Naruto was born with talent and connection already
#Sonu sharma he got elected NOT because he can punch better than his opponents. Here the difference. Tsunade also didn’t have any of “president education” she just heal very well and punch really strong. That’s all.)
Funnily enough, though, it's a thing IRL too. It's called "Peter's principle". After all, in the army, you COULD be promoted in rank thanks to your merits in battle... thus ending up commanding more and fighting less, and the moment you won't be promoted any more is either when you die or when you start being incompetent at your new job.
Yeah I never got that either. A Kage is usually supposed to be the best ninja in the village and a person people expect to protect the village if it's in danger but the Kage has to be the one stuck in the office doing all the paperwork. When Pain attacked the village Tsunade didn't even fight him. Everyone else did and most of them died and the village got destroyed
Yeah like seriously. The end fight was. Sasuke: I have cooler red eye Madara: but I have circle grey! Sasuke fucking dies. Naruto: I have cool eye of foxtoad. Madara: *CIRCLE GRAY* Naruto fucking dies. Sasuke and naruto come back with better eyes. Madara: I have grey circle eye! Sasuke: I have a combination of your and my own eyes! Naruto: I have art on my palm! Madara fucking dies.
Grounded analysis of these detached power fantasy animes are fascinating, Eli is that guy that offers a sane perspective when everyone either goes off the rails or buys into the hype for better or worse he is consistent, Love these style of videos.
To play a bit of devil's advocate here, his political connection to Tsunade seems to be 100% earned. He debated her, made a wager, then won that wager while simultaneously saving her life and helping her overcome her traumas. He also didn't use any dog power during this process except to gain a few extra hours of training time. The only inherent advantage I see here is that he was introduced by Jiraiya, but Tsunade didn't seem to be swayed very much by that fact. Overall, Naruto's political connection to Tsunade could have been fairly earned by absolutely anybody who was placed at the same dinner table as her.
@@ClashBluelight He always more or less had political connections to her though. When they first met she clearly stated that he looked as bad/dumb as Jaraia's last apprentice IE his father. The only reason he was sitting across from her at that table and with Jaraia in the first place was because he was a Hokage's son. So it comes full circle.
I would like to add that Naruto's society pretends that men are women are (at least somewhat) equal. Yet, we almost never see a female character amount to anything. The function of the few female characters is simply to be tokens that hold the enemy until the products-of-divine-eugenics-and-magical-eye-science male leads arrive. Even Tsunade who is one of the more decent female characters is completely overshadowed by Jiraya and Orochimaru. Even Conan is a little more than a henchman to Nagato. I wouldn't have had problem if the author wanted to explore a pre-modern society where not everyone is equal. However, that is simply not the case in Naruto where everyone is happily working together. Once again, the story pretends that it has a message of equality and "hard work and ambition always triumph" while always demonstrating the contrary. Chiyo is prolly the only exception I can think off (the final boss doesn't really count). That's prolly because she isn't a cute anime girl designed for r34 purposes and an actual character.
@Dracozauryks bozo u literally comparing Konan a low to mid kage tier character to pain who is low to mid demi-god and expect her not to be overshadowed ? tsunade maybe would've been more powerfu lif shedidn't go on to drink and gamble all day after losing faith after dan and her brother died
kishimoto has admitted that he can't write female characters. which i struggle to sympathize with when, unless you're wanting to explore themes about gender (which naruto isn't), it is literally as simple as "just write the gd character and don't care about what's inbetween their legs"
People saying the theme is to overcome the cycle of hatred, but the only character that represents that is *Haku* despite being the antagonist of the show..
I don’t think it’s the cycle of hatred only either It’s between gaining power through forming bonds or cutting them away. Madara, Indra and sasuke gained their power by casting away their bonds, with the uchiha unlocks their strongest power from killing their closest aide and injecting themselves with their kin’s eye. Ashura and naruto gained their power through connecting with more people. As naruto meet more people, he gains more power. There is also sub plot too like a world of dreams and lies against the brutal world of harsh reality. This one in particular is the one I’m mad about because introducing kaguya and aliens essentially killed this one. For pain arc it was whether a peaceful yet dictatorial world built on fear is the right world. For gaara and kurama it was hatred and having someone that reach out to you. If you watch when kurama finally accepts naruto, you can see the flashback of all of his “controller” before. All of them either are fearful of him and either wants to use him for their own good or lock and distant him while naruto was the only one ever to reach out and wanting to help him. I don’t think this show has ever been about hard work beating talent and Lee lost against gaara should have already made it clear that in this world, hard work can only get so far. It’s actually probably the most cynical view that the author is secretly putting there.
@@mvmsma it's a minor antagonist who actively overcomes hatred... Pain just kinda gave up .., Obito changed his mind twice ... Sasuke overcoming his hatred was really watered down .
So jiraiya, kakashi, and hiruzen all had a great relationship with Minato, but completley ignores his orphan son, it also baffles me how hiruzen says that he'll take care of naruto but all he did was put a roof over his head. Like at least put him in a orphan system or some shit. And jyria was so close to minato, he could've raised his son (who was named after a character in one of jyria's books) but no instead he was to busy "researching".
I agree with you, but kakashi or jiraiya taking care of naruto wouldnt make much sense in my opinion, it's out of character, especially for horny jiraiya. He's just a talented ninja who has little to no morals and is always drunk hahaha.
@@potxtoe Kakashi might would've done it and it not be out of character. Going off flashbacks, it's very weird that he didn't do it. It also makes no sense that no one told Naruto who his parents were. It's almost as if all that backstory was Asspull No Jutsu
I don’t think being in a orphanage would have been good for him. I mean, he was in one when he was a baby. But being in a place run by people who hate/despise you mustn’t have been great for him.
@@CassidyStarke Once all the backstory came out for Naruto, it didn't make *any* sense for people to hate him. Kurama was sealed into him in secret, so only a few know about it, and he's the son of the most beloved Hokage up until that point. . It's not like Gaara whose mom died in childbirth and was constantly hurting people, because wasn't the son of a master of sealing techniques and is not of a powerful jinchuuriki host bloodline(Uzumaki can cling to live awhile after their beast is removed, but everyone else dies immediately). . Naruto doesn't hurt anyone and there's literally no reason to be mean to him or blame him for the incident that incident, especially since Uchiha were also blamed for it
InfernosReaper I’m also not 100% how people found out. But it’s not that hard to piece together, I mean there were people around still. I mean the 9 tails attacks the village, 4th and wife fight, 9 tails disappears, all there is left is a baby. I’m guessing is that most found out but were either afraid to say something, of knew not to.
the two characters that embody the themes of naruto are sakura and lee, neither of which come from a special bloodline, both having to work for everything they have
1. Neji talks about destiny and how everyone has a predetermined fate. Naruto disagrees with this and explains that destiny shouldn't be used as a crutch to be a jerk, like Neji is when attempting to murder Hinata or talking down to Naruto himself. 2. So was Neji right? Everyone seems to think so, but why? Is it because Naruto is the child of prophecy? Well, it was stated that the child of prophecy would either bring peace to the world OR destroy it. The simple fact that Naruto has both agency and a choice in the outcome already puts Neji's values on shaky ground. 3. BUT! You still disagree with me. Why? Because Naruto is the reincarnation of Ashura? Well, that's funny because, as Ashura's reincarnation, Naruto is destined to meet and battle with Indra's reincarnation, Sasuke. Now Ashura did hope that a future incarnation of himself could resolve things peacefully, but his intention doesn't matter as his actions contributed to a cycle that the Sage of Six Paths feared would continue when Sasuke wanted to have his final battle with Naruto. 4. DESTINY ITSELF, the concept Neji spoke about, ordained that Naruto(as Ashura's reincarnation) would do battle with Sasuke(Indra's reincarnation), and continue the cycle of hatred. This path where the two could potentially kill each other might have very well been the catalyst that pushed Naruto to fulfill the evil side of his prophecy in destroying the world(among other things), made even more evident with the treatment he received growing up as a Jinchuriki(that made him hate the world back for a time), and the antagonist that reflected his character(challenging his views, and in some cases, trying to make Naruto fall as low as they did).
It's funny how Rock Lee was miles above anybody at that tournament. Nobody there stood a chance against him, every other fight after that looked like a kindergarten play.
Even when I was a teenager I could figure out that Naruto was explicitly targeted at rich kids with no special skills at all. The ninja training is an analogy of a military academy, minus of course the boring uniforms and the stupidity. There's of course Naruto, who's a terrible student, who gets assigned to a team with Sakura and Sasuke, both smarter than him. As the show progresses, what happens? Sakura, even though initially gifted, takes on a passive role, and Sasuke turns out evil, while Naruto gets bailed out by his hidden power in every fight no matter how stupid he is, and in the end everything works out and he becomes Hokage anyway. The message is clear as water. As long as you were born in an influencial family, you will eventually reach power if you wait long enough. Don't worry, you can do stupid things and all will be fine, the smart kids at school will only take a secondary role or cause trouble. Although I respect Kishimoto-sensei for his dedication and ability, it's so obvious that what he did was create a story to justify the power of privileged and lazy bureaucrats. The only surprise is that you need to make a video to call it out lol.
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"The ninja president who does all the paperwork because he's the best fighter"
Yeah, that always bugged me.
Especially since there's this whole council of elders who do absolutely nothing and a secret shadow government whom absolutely nothing is done about
@@InfernosReaper yea the whole fuckin political system being dumped into one person. Like the hokage deals with almost every possible fucking thing in the village and he is chosen by being the strongest fighter :) Of course I am gonna get Mike Tyson to do some paperwork for me lol
@@HienNguyen-cs1md Yeah, not even beginning to understand the logic there... or how the ninja villages are accountable to the government proper of their respective nations and then that just gets forgotten entirely after a while.
@@InfernosReaper the world building is just so poor yet early on the writer keep trying to kinda expand it. The plot and the world mostly revolves around Naruto and if it's convenient then it is
@@HienNguyen-cs1md Some people who give writing advise say to not work out a lot of stuff ahead of time, but when it's major stuff that greatly affects the world as a whole, they probably should at least put a little thought into it, right?
Remember how Naruto won a quiz by failing to answer a single question?
Duncan Trice 😂
@@GOATMAN-vr7bo
pepperidge farm remembers
I think it was explained in shippuden when shikamaru was giving the exam, how the score was shared between 3 people
@@relentlessdemon5074 thats different
a test. He didnt even finish reading them
Naruto is every 'self-made' millionaire that started with a "small loan of 1 million dollars".
Fr 🤣🤣
A million dollars? You saw how broken those power were? Make it at least a 100 million dollars
Then it turns out he has a Nigerian prince relative.
Then it turns out he is the lost son of a late billionaire
Then it turns out Warren buffet left his entire company to him
1. "Hard work trumps talent" was the central theme for the chunin exams and the goal Lee aspires to
2. "Overcoming one's Hatred/Destiny to further understand one another" is the overarching theme of the series as well as something Naruto needed to do(its why he has the infamous "talk no jutsu")
3. Almost every arc in the series had its own theme to follow, but as stated above, the main theme of the series definitely isn't about hard work trumping talent(you would have a better argument for "hard work", but you all get SUPER specific that it NEEDS to trump talent)
4. If you thought the MC was going to follow what is essentially Lee's theme(who LOST against Gaara in the Chunin Exams) when he has the 9 Tails(that he used against Neji that same arc), then we will just have to agree to disagree
A loan of 100 million chakra points
Never ask:
- A woman her age
- A man his salary
- Naruto why his parents' names are blue on Wikipedia
?? I dont get this lol please explain?
@@jeremiemboma I think the joke is that since blue words on wikipedia are clickable links, meaning it leads to a page dedicated entirely to that specific word. So I guess since both of narutos parents turned out to not be complete randoms but very important, elite people of the society and important to the lore of Naruto verse. Therefore wikipedia dedicates entire separate pages to them. So when they appear on a random article, their names are usually highlighted blue. Kinda pointing out the hypocrisy in a meta way.
@@zhin8294Except it's not hypocritical and people trying to be funny meta humor man is why they don't get the series.
@@D-Havoc The likes seem to disagree
@@D-Havocto be fair you have to have a very high iq to understand naruto
Might guy and rock lee are the embodiment of a free to play player in a pay to win world
The Thot Slayer wdym might guy is one of the strongest characters in naruto
Guy can summon a turtle so imma assume he can use chakra like a normal person
@@Mark-yu6xv Yea at the exchange of his ability to walk
@@fishgilbert6875 It's at the exchange of his life. Guy lived cause Naruto used his plot powers to save him. But I get you.
@@Mark-yu6xv to be fair he grinded a shit ton of in game currency to get that 1 use power
I guess Naruto got a small loan of a million chakra.
yes, like every 5 seconds then having the gut to talk about hard work
😂😂
Lmfao
Not only that, be he constantly bankrupts his chakra points doing obscenely stupid ideas, but in the end he's always bailed out with even more chakra.
Low quality meme
"I don't know much about naruto"
*goes through every major arc of the series*
The stupidity have no limits 😂
He was right though, he didn't know much
He was being sarcastic…guess that went over your head lol
@@yelhsanosnhoj6602 he tried being sarcastic, but actually tell the truth lol
@@togelz huh? he was playfully contradicting himself because he’s going on to explain how the series does it … duh
My favourite part of the series was when Sai, who worked under Danzo his entire life and knew nothing about human relationships, wanted to observe Naruto and Sasuke in order to understand what true friendship is. So he basically thinks friendship is the toxic love relationship that Naruto and Sasuke have.
Would've been nice if Kishimoto was not shit at writing and actually had someone point it out.
@@MyVanirretard
Is this true friendship?
"I can fix him!"
I rewatched Naruto earlier this year and it made me happy when Sai was first introduced, and when Naruto said he wanted to "take" Sasuke back, Sai replied pointing out how Sasuke's basically a traitor and Naruto's being totally delusional. Too bad Kishi decided to water down Sai's personality later on
So THATS why Sai acts so gay!
What's crazy is despite being rivals, we never see lee and neji fight
Ikr? All we see is Neji knock Lee down in a flashback.
@@eamonxl8183 Probably just twisted his nipples too
That was always something I wanted to see as well, along with a rematch between sasuke and rock lee
@@JoNarDLoLz Lol
@@zacsisolak Yeah. I wish the show got to prioritize its characters rather than the Uchiha clan hijacking the story.
"Rock Lee is the only character that actually exhibits the lesson the series is trying to teach." That's insanely accurate lmao
Go Time Now fax
@@licro4792 shed end up as suigetsu rival
@Go Time Now I always wanted TenTen to go up against Pain. Her expertise would have been great against Pain's gravitation powers. Just constantly throw shit at him so he uses up all his power and you hit him when he's on his cooldown.
They had a few bits of strategy earlier in the series but then it just became whoever has more magic points.... so disappointing.
OK, that's going to the other extreme. Lee is too simplistic of a person, too unidimensional.
@@MrAlepedroza and Naruto isn't?
i cant believe we watched literal ninja jesus say "just work harder bro" and thought it was deep
Nah you completely miss the point if you think this video is truthful to the manga. You have ninja jesus saying "work as hard as you can for peace and forgiveness". It was never about becoming strong or powerlevels. It was a story about Naruto not turning against the people who bullied him and instead be their hero.
For the guy above. What about the ninja kids used for a system that k1lls them most of the time?
Prophecy kid "broke" (not really) the cycle of hated but decided to let feudal lords and child missions exist bcs of "peace and forgiveness"?
Try to be less hypocrit if you answer
@@MrFlejon fr. This video misses the point of Naruto. Or he’s just slinging hot takes for clicks
Jesus suffered more than most people so
@@joaop4585 well in fact in Boruto, that I didn't really pay attention to, there's established peace so Ninja's have become more of a cultural inheritance than a real soldier army.
The existence of Ninja's and it's hypocrisy has been like the main plot line since the Pain arc.
Neji was absolutely 100% correct and Kishimoto killed him for it.
Hiw can neji be correct if naruto broke destiny
it reminds me of the meme, people didnt like jesus because he told them the truth lmao
@@yuvrajsharma1551 but neji did not tell thr truth
seems like you have a brain@@chalbramwell5353
@@chalbramwell5353 he did break it, no where in the destiny says that the reincarnations will alway fight. If anything he completed the destiny
Boruto : Hey dad, now that you're the Hokage and saved the world like 5 times, why haven't you stopped slavery in the Hyuga family ?
Naruto : I believe in it
Boruto: Hey dad, why cant you just have your clones do all your hokage work for you and spend time with us?
Naruto: Cause i believe you'll be fine without me
Naruto: Because the writers forgot about it.
he used clones to spend time with family and do hokage work himself though
@@monstergelo1072 Which is stupid cause of that birthday scene. If the clones can just randomly disappear like that then it causes more issue with the relationships of his fucking family. Which might not have been an issue if he hadnt make more clones than necessary to do dumb menial tasks that mean nothing in the grand scheme of things. Like taking packages around!
I legit think that Mr. Ruto's childhood messed him up. You see people saying he just wanted attention, right? Pulling pranks, saying he was going to be Hokage just to get people to give him the time of day, etc... and then, finally, when he gets recognition and 'love' from the whole village, it's only because he's saved them all.
So let's say that sticks with him majorly. Save the people, they like you. Saving is helping. Can't always be a Pein to beat to save, but you can help, so Naruto decides to keep everyone loving him, he'll HELP everyone. And that sad goal follows him into adulthood and poisons his relationship with his family, because even if he doesn't realize it, he's still the same attention hungry, family-deprived child he was when he was 12.
Or something. Just a random thought.
To be fair, he earned Jiraiyas attention by using prostitution. So that part was earned by...hard work?
Jiraiya got hard so it counts as hard work
Sweechie. Naruto thought smart. He foresaw the future of our political climate in the west and made a *recruit difficulty* button (sexy jutsu). Now all he needs to do is join twitch and be a titty streamer. 😁
Not only that but him being minato's son
well naruto came up with reverse harlem jutsu all on his own right??? maybe even sexy jutsu?
Ercushka Kulmetov that is his own jutsu and honestly has never really failed when he needed it. That's quite a jutsu he has when you think about it as it has been proven that even a higher being such as u kygua can be affected by it as it distracts the opponent at the very least. Allowing you to blind side them if you use it right.
Guy is the only true "self-made billionaire" in the series.
Rock Lee too!
Yes! And Rock Lee was my favorite. Hated how neglected he was as the show progressed.
He was given power by his dad...sakura kinda earns her made up powers
@@razkable Guy was NOT given powers by his dad. He was trained by his dad, and he can't use fucking ninjutsu in a ninja world, the biggest handicap imaginable.
Sakura had a literal hokage and sannin train her, and she's still not even 1% of Guy's power.
It is not even close, Guy is the strongest mf who got his powers by sheer practice and a strong will
@@karayi7239I think guy is the strongest character in naruto verse (excluding literal gods,borrowed power like tailed beast, EMS as you need another eye for EMS)
Also a thing that really bothers me is how Naruto wanted to change the whole ninja system, how people are treated and ridiculed just beacuse they were born a certain way and were affected by factors outside of their control. But what does he do when he becomes hokage?? Absolutely nothing, he doesnt change anything and even becomes a shitty father. Honestly this manga had such great potential but its ruined by random bs and bad writing it just makes everything frustrating
Your comment is the dumbest I've ever read xD
That‘s one of the dumbest shit I‘ve ever read. How can someone‘ media literacy and reading comprehension be so poor
boruto is not canon
Naruto even says to Neji at the end of the fight that he will change his destiny,NEJi'S destiny of being a slave forever. How? By changing the hyuga clan system once he will become hogake...but he doesn't,and neji dies as a slave. Just another example of something that Naruto said and has no resolution whatsoever.
There are still slaves in the village,still child soldiers,ninja are still used as weapons (the whole teaching/lesson of haku & zabuza also goes no where).
It's like the writer had great ideas but he didn't know how to execute them correctly,and connect them with the main plot in a coherent way.
Naruto should've went travelling and see the world on his own before becoming hokage imo.
@@myrongainesthegoat Boruto is canon
*”I started in Konoha, my father gave me a small loan of the second most powerful tailed demon sealed inside of me”*
China!
"My previous incarnation's fathers gave me a small loan of god-like powers".
Wait. So Naruto is Trump?!
Holy Shit Orange Hokage and Orange President are same
Quite humble beginnings
“I don’t know much about Naruto”
*knows everything that the rinnegan can do*
Did it ever occur to you that he might have looked it up?
Wikipedia's a thing
@@Richard-uu7eo GOT EMMM
Maaaaan the Rinnegan is so fucking stupid. Of all the dumb powers in Naruto, that might be the dumbest one.
Yea dont take him seriously especially that lie he spouted in the beginning that he dont know much naruto and pretending to forget names lmao
One more point that doesn't make sense: All the later power-ups aside, the people who run the village probably would have known about Naruto's heritage and the potential of leeching off of Kyubi's chakra, so they should have given him the hokage-training-treatment from the get-go. Instead, they let him waste away as a ramen-slurping loser? What a waste of resources!
Don't question, only consume.
what annoyed me the most it that DAnzo and those undercovered ninjas that had at his dispossal were not even mentioned or seen around Naruto, the fucking power weapon of the village and the son of the hero that saved it, since Shippuden, the moment he decided to make Itachi a good guy and shift the blame to Danzo, Danzo all of a sudden appeared to be the mastermind manipulator.Which indicated that he had no idea in the beggining of how he wanted the show to go on and when he decided at teh starto of Shippuden all the world building up unitll that point was thrown out of the window
@@Ikati-ny8fr for me it was the DBZ levels of fight, it was no longer Ninja battles.
@@thewanderingartists the transition from Naruto to shippuden was the same as dragonball to DBZ
@@Ikati-ny8fr The series was DBZ from the start.
Naruto is the living embodiment of “pull yourself up by the bootstraps. We get the same 24 hours, you just ain’t doing enough” from a legacy Harvard Chad who’s dad rowed crew.
That's why Naruto failed thrice to graduate, right?
That's why Naruto learned to walk on the tree so easily that he collapsed with exhaustion, right?
That's why Naruto managed to learn Jutsus like Sharingan users, right?
Cry harder, lazy donkey.
@@Chris-wl2tw shut up, lazy donkey.
Naruto pulled himself up, with only a small loan of one million chakra from the fox living inside him.
And then a bailout when his first investment failed by his reincarnated past life.
He's just like you and me!
@@aprinnyonbreak1290 Sasuke, Itachi, Kakashi, Nagato, Madara pulled themselves up with Sharingan, Rinnegan copying abilities that's just small portion of the eyes full capabilities.
Neji, Hinata, Hanabi, other Hyugas just used gentle fist, Byakugan X ray and 360 vision, a small part of Byakugan full abilities.
Naruto gets stripped of Kurama, is this close to death and gets saved by Obito and that's bailout by reincarnated life, gift power 💀
What about Sasuke and his Rinnegan?
If you hate Naruto so much, just stop watching. Naruto rubs your closed wounds of failure and you get hurt that Naruto got success.
Stop watching anime, lazy bum.
Agree with both of you. Naruto had the same 24hrs.
The same 24 hours of being trained by the top notch, Kakashi, Yamato and Jiraya (+ weird 4ss frogs) bcs of the red-dawg that his Harvard-chad father put on him and his chakra-rich-girl mother gave him
I never realized how stupid the branch family concept is. They act surprised that Neji is strong even though he is genetically the same as the main family.
the entire neji character it feels like exists to ship naruto and hinata and make it heroic and not unatural..but then you have the pain moment where neji is not in the village so...
@Goddamn 47 how would be neji bring them closer
Thats kind of the point not a flaw. Its their tradition but they want to show it was stupid. Pog acts like its bad that a show that shows this tradition is wrong has a tradition thats wrong
@@user-fo6ej3cl5u No. No on every account. First, there's many better ways you could write the family branch system. Second, just because pog calls out one thing, doesn't mean he said the show is bad. Remember this equation; criticism=/=hate.
@Ish how the hell Neji would bring Hinata closer to Naruto?? Lmao y'all stupid or what??
I always hated how they can literally walk up walls, but whenever there’s a time that it’s applicable, they completely forget about it
*Cough cough* hinata *Cough cough*
Edit don’t text me on some bullshit talking about “she was out of chakra” go read the comments
I'm not going to repeat my self to every hinata fan. So I'll say this one time and one time only I don't give a fuck about any female in naruto they are all badly written characters anyway.
it was a simple joke pertaining to what the original comment said get over it.
U lost your brain
@@aizen8308 me?
@@PappiiSensei101 nope Kage3k. I mean that krawberry guy or gay
@Star Killer wrong person my guy
Naruto defenders will say that he worked hard for his powers, but the point remains that the powers he worked hard for are nothing compared to the powers he simply inherited
Inherited.😂😂
Yep lazy donkey. Have a beast inside you that hates you so much and that beast being the reason your parents were taken away from you at the day you were born.
Having an organization that's hell bent to capture you and you living in fear everyday.
Being this close to end of life and somehow got saved by Obito and Sage only to be branded as the one who inherited the powers.
There would be no Naruto, dumb donkey.
Keep your laziness to yourself, lazy donkey.
you are right, the only thing he worked out how to do himself without any foundations is maybe the rasenshuriken and all its varients
if you take away 9 tails in the beginning of the series, his hard work will never amount to anything.
He will either still be a nobody with no talent or just plain dead
All his hard work would never get him out of the rank of genin...
Scratch that, he'd be dead in his childhood, in that flashback where he steals the scrolls of shadow clones, he wouldn't be able to make the clones to beat the guy who was trying to kill him and would be dead right there and then
@@crimsonpotemkin how do you know Naruto would never make it?
Naruto would have his parents if he wasn't a jinchuriki. That's even better.
The confidence of a lazy donkey that Naruto would be dead in his childhood. 👏
Get your laziness somewhere else.
If you could never achieve anything, stay where you belong to and stop spreading BS.
@@crimsonpotemkinIf you take away the 9 tails, he wouldn’t even be in a lot of the situations he was in during the series. Often times he was targeted for being the Jinchuriki. If you only alter him having the 9 tails, he’d likely still become a strong shinobi. He would still be the son of the 4th Hokage, an Uzumaki, and an Ashura reincarnate. He wouldn’t be overpowered, but he’d still be able to doing things like multiple shadow clones, rasengans, and mastering sage mode.
in retrospect, Naruto teaches us the most real lesson out of all the other anime.
if you are born rich, u stay rich and other less rich ppl have to destory themselves(work tremendously hard) to even for a single moment be near your amount of wealth.
never have we ever seen a more real lesson been taught to kids teens and young adults
How did you reach that conclusion?
@@SenpaiD119 Presumably by watching the video.
@@SenpaiD119
By not being as dense as you.
@@SenpaiD119
Because for all of the shows attempts to make Naruto the underdog, it ends up making him basically jesus in effect.
All the gifts and benefits he has end up helping him somehow while at the same time, much like bible and the original jesus, he has to suffer to "build his character". Except he never really does or the plot coontrives itself to make sure he suffers more due to his gifts because plot reasons.
@@SenpaiD119 By thinking.
Yeah, but Naruto had to sit on a swing with sad face.
Tururu
He also worked hard to get to where he is
*sad flute song*
@@crazygamer4260 Naruto won the lottery. Like, five times. And he didn't even buy a ticket. The only time he had to work hard was when he was a sperm swimming to his mother's egg. And even then, you cant be sure.
Dream Chaser I disagree, he still had to work hard, despite all the gifts he got. He had poor chakra contril thanks to the fox, and he wasn't exactly the smartest. He got as far as he did thanks to help from the most important people of the ninja world. For me, what really invalidated all of that was the reincarnation bit, since that was what really made him destined to be great.
Rock Lee was a monster in Naruto, but in Shippuden all he did was just standing
😞 this is really sad.Rock Lee will always be my favorite.He is the character we needed.
After Chunin exams he got nerfed hard
Like how can you build up a character just so you can turn him into a jobber
@This Is What Awesome Looks Like Agree
Ikr
Imagine killing off Neji just to get Naruto and Hinata together just to create the existence of 'Boruto' 🤢
Thats was not the reason he killed him
@@chalbramwell5353kishi killed him because he knew what was up
@@wallie8539 he didn't know what was up since part 1
@@chalbramwell5353 neji was right
All this effort to get one microwave burrito.
Leaf Village's economy is in shambles
Remember those moments that the show briefly brings into focus that all this is happening in a more or less modern world?
I giggle madly at the thought of the police pulling up in the middle of the war arc, dispensing some riot control, and tasing then arresting Madara.
"do you think anyone can become hokage by simply working hard enough?" I never really realized that
"His father, Might Dai."
No. His father DID die.
*Seinfeld Theme Plays*
Its funny because its crap
What iiis the deal?
Stop it. Get some help.
Father Did Die? Sure, I'm looking forward to the fifth numbered game in that series.
*The Price Is Right failure fanfare*
Then you realized Neji was right all along about destiny and fate. Naruto being the reincarnation of Asura. Kishimoto had Neji killed off because he knew too much
IMAO 😂🤣😭😭
😂 😂 😂 Conspiracy
Neji died for this
Lmfao that's funny asf
@Octavian Shut it down.
The hate he has for naruto's character is the hate I have for how much kishimoto botched itachi by turning him from a grey character to the whitest of white.
I have even more hate for the people who defend Kishimoto or shonen mangaka in general. They well always make the excuses for their bad writing and say "they are over worked."
@@Blueguy404it true though Japan has strict deadline for mangaka the would make you burn out
I hate the I'll bring sasuske home part.
@@Blueguy404they're still overworked tho
Just look at poor Horikoshi
Dude needed a vacation years ago
@@kalo_verahe should've took a three month break like Tabata
Rock Lee being the MC of the show would have been insane. Only his fight against Gaara got as much hype as Naruto vs Sasuke. And that’s exactly because of how genuine, hard-working and determined Rock Lee is. Naruto should have been a SC like the rest of the jinchurki. Notice how people aren’t really interested in the other jinchuriki except Naruto simply because they are pretty much vessels for a supernatural creature. Naruto is better than them simply because he’s the MC😂 Rock Lee as the MC, having everything against him and managing to reach a lvl of power similar or even stronger than 8 gates Guy, going against all these super gifted villains, would have been perfection😭
Rock Lee was real protagonist of Naruto.
no it wouldn't
@@snknero9935nah he's not he is irrelevant in shippuden 😂
@@thatomanaka323yes it would and he’s irrelevant due to bad writing 😂
that would totally suck
First thing he says:
"I don't know much about Naruto"
proceeds to explain entire plot
wut?
That's the joke.
Iridium have you ever heard of Sarcasm or a joke XD
Are you serious ?
He doesn’t know anything thing about naruto
no he fucked it so may times (not the jokes obviously) he was right to say he knew nothing
Naruto: “There’s no such thing as fate!”
Also Naruto: *the child of prophecy*
CAPA Naruto never had a choice, he was never going to become evil. He was ashuras reincarnation and he was good so was hashirama. Sasuke on the other hand was the one destined to be evil.
@@capa1575 I don't think Sasuke broke the cycle. He still tried to destroy the village and stuff. The difference is Madara was still alive. And when Naruto and Sasuke defeated him, to me, is what ended the cycle.
Naruto never said there's no such thing as fate🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
He Said if you dont like your fate then go out and change it
@@capa1575 so you have a fucking taled beast inside u and u fail and start passing again so ur cool? Nice.
@Jotaro97 if you dont like the fate you were dealt go out and try to change it it's kinda simple
If I'm destined to be broke my whole life I'm not gonna sulk about it I'm gonna try my best to change it
I love how you perfectly describe all my problems i have with naruto and how it is poorly written
Yet somehow others think it's the best piece of fiction
he was 100% incorrect though
@@garywebb2432 no he was not
He perfectly described and explained all problems he had with the show multiple times with proof
If you can't accept that then you shouldn't state negative opinions yourself
@@_Kronos_
no he didn't he misunderstood several concepts lmaoo for example hard work beating talent when TALENT FAILS TO WORK HARD would be a theme of naruto not "hard work beats talent period" cause SASUKE AND NEJI TRAIN TOO LMAOO and thats just 1 example of why this video sucks
@@garywebb2432 The internet in a nutshell - one guy making a well-reasoned and detailed argument one way, the other just going "nuh uh, you're wrong" like a retarded child and declaring victory.
You are talking as if those people have watched this video. Plus this video is just from his perspective. Peoples can disagree if they want.
The major problem with writing like this is that the creators misunderstand the difference between ambition and motivation.
Naturo is extremely ambitious. He puts so much energy into impressing other people. But he lacks any motivation to actually do anything.
''He apparently got so exhausted from beating Naruto's ass this whole time that getting hit in the chin once was enough to win the match.'' Lmao
It was a surprise hard punch
Haha haha I was watching and reading the comment at the same time as we all do and it's funny cause I read this line simultaneously with the narrator, love iT when that happens.
@@missinglinkk8936 somehow, from a dude who depleted all his energy and had to dig a hole.
Either way, Naruto really should've lost that fight by a count
@@InfernosReaper It's like in a MMA fight how it looks like one dude has the other on the ropes, but then the dude on the defensive hits the guy with a OK punch.
@@HuntertheWraithDragon Not really, because in a MMA fight, Naruto would've lost by count, because he *should* have lost by count in this fight.
Also, how in the hell did he manage to dig a hole underground and come out right above Neji? Like, I didn't think about it too much the first time I saw that fight, but on the second time, it was like "wait, how in hell?!"
No wonder everyone hates Naruto, he hogged the only swing in the village smh
G0DSPAGH3T1 Evertone hates naruto? Since when? There is a lot of people like the anime.
@@magnumdoinks5595 it was a joke, i love naruto. When i said everyone i meant everyone in the village not people watching the show
@@magnumdoinks5595 the people in the village dumb cock
@@magnumdoinks5595 WOOOSH
@@magnumdoinks5595 Students, if you look over here, you can see a real life lobotomy patient escapee.
My favorite thing is Kiba literally knocked him out for like 5 minutes in the chunin exams but because he’s the main character the ref didn’t react and let him get back up lol
Exactly right he also cheat his fight again Neji without Kurama power that loser would have lost that fight quick.
@@snknero9935Cheat?
@@snknero9935 Cheat, so is it cheating that Neji uses the byakugan and taijutsu techniques which were given to him since birth lol. Naurot bared the burden of hatred, kurama caused more bad for him then good so letting him get a tiny amount of chakra is more like rent.
@@snknero9935 True.
Small note: Kakashi is also related to a previous hokage, he was the student of Naruto's dad together with Obito and a dead girl. He is also the son of one of the greatest ninja's of the village aside from the hokages.
and naruto's dad is the 4th hokage
Lmao they really got into an incentious power vaccum with that.
Literally all the hokage are connected, sometimes in more ways than one. Leaf village wildin TF out
Kakashi's father would have literally become the 4th hokage had he not ended his life due to certain reasons .Heck he was an even more legendary ninja than the entire sannin . That most certainly says something about .The real reason why kakashi is no way near his father's power whilst having the potential to even eclipse him is simply due to sheer laziness and lack of effort in comparison to someone like might guy who trains day and night to be equal to the likes of kakashi .Had might guy possessed the same potential as kakashi ,he would have become the hokage a decade earlier than kakashi did
The Thunder village breaking their treaty by trying to kidnap a girl, then getting caught and trying to double down is the equivalent of a thief breaking into your home, slipping on an ice cube in your kitchen, and suing you for damages.
That’s how it works in California
Which is totally a thing
It is legal as well. Apparently, if a kid breaks into your yard to swin in your pool and drowns, the family can sue you.
@@dongod2786 that dosen't make any sense
@@Rob-hy6mg I agree
the last half of shippuden just came down to who had the coolest eyes
You made me laugh so much I got hickups. Right on the fucking money literally..
Exactly why i stopped watching when the woman god something shows up lol
@Go Time Now She's more like an alien rather than God.
😂😂😂😂
Well... if you didn't pay attention then sure 😅
Rock Lee is more of an inspiration than Naruto will ever be.
I think the real moral of naruto is just "be careful who you call ugly in high school in case he grows up to be the god president"
That Gaara mention. “He’s so gifted all he has to do is stand still” 😂
I laughed so hard at that 😂
Well he has sand that's basically alive protects him if you ask me that's pretty gifted
@ITS bullzie what that doesn't make sense
@ITS bullzie what sasuke copied Lee's move not his speed sasuke is already fast anyways
@ITS bullzie no no no kakashi literally said the sharingan is Capable of copying justu he said nothing about speed being apart of it
naruto against neji : fate is stupid lol
naruto in the last arc : you're the child of prophecy naruto , it was your fate to be here
That's why he had to die my guy.
Fate was Right
But Naruto in the last arc did nothing but deny the circle of reincarnation and make up with Sasuke, despite their "fate" being to fight to the death. And if you're talking about the frog's prophecy, it was changed twice in one arc, so it's not really a set-in-stone fate marker.
Bratanov I think that was Kishimoto's intention but he didn't convey that well
Considering the frog's prophecy was never for them to "fight to the death" but it was more "you'll fight somebody with op eye abilities"
Like nothing Naruto did necessarily "went against fate" considering the exact same thing happened in one Hashirsma and Madaras battle where they just kissed and madeup and ruled over the village for a while.
By "fight to the death" part I meant the reincarnation of Indra and Ashura part, not the frog's prophecy. The frog's prophecy changed when 1)Jiraya made a choice to send Naruto the message before his death, and 2)When Naruto chose to convince Nagato instead of beating him, after which the frog said that he didn't expect there to be two "children of prophecy".
And your example with Hashirama and Madara doesn't make a lot of sense, since they eventually DID fight to the death, fulfilling the prophecy. It was never stated that their first fight would be the one.
The problem with Naruto is that it proposes a hypothesis and then continues to prove that hypothesis wrong as the show progresses, but still seems to be under the illusion that it’s proving it right. Yes, hard work was necessary for Naruto to get where he did after a point, but he also couldn’t have done it without a hell of a lot of luck, prime genetics, and political connections he did not solely earn but gained by virtue of his parentage. It’s like when a millionaire’s child calls themself self-made when they only got where they were because they started with their parents’ money and connections. Yes, he did do far more with those things than others might have in his position, and he did suffer plenty in his childhood, but that does not mean his hypothesis and the hypothesis of the entire series was proven wrong through him. It reeks of nepo baby trying to justify how they earned their position by saying they had to work hard for it. Just because you worked hard, doesn’t mean you started on an even playing field with everyone else. You had privileges and advantages others could only dream of and you would not have made it to where you are without them unless you got incredibly, miraculously lucky. That’s the story of Natuto and it’s telling that he doesn’t realize this himself, but Sasuke and Neji have since day one. Naruto didn’t prove Neji wrong in their chunin exam fight, he proved himself wrong and made Neji’s point for him, all while believing he did the opposite. Big face-palm moment right there.
1. Neji talks about destiny and how everyone has a predetermined fate. Naruto disagrees with this and explains that destiny shouldn't be used as a crutch to be a jerk, like Neji is when attempting to murder Hinata or talking down to Naruto himself.
2. So was Neji right? Everyone seems to think so, but why? Is it because Naruto is the child of prophecy? Well, it was stated that the child of prophecy would either bring peace to the world OR destroy it. The simple fact that Naruto has both agency and a choice in the outcome already puts Neji's values on shaky ground.
3. BUT! You still disagree with me. Why? Because Naruto is the reincarnation of Ashura? Well, that's funny because, as Ashura's reincarnation, Naruto is destined to meet and battle with Indra's reincarnation, Sasuke. Now Ashura did hope that a future incarnation of himself could resolve things peacefully, but his intention doesn't matter as his actions contributed to a cycle that the Sage of Six Paths feared would continue when Sasuke wanted to have his final battle with Naruto.
4. DESTINY ITSELF, the concept Neji spoke about, ordained that Naruto(as Ashura's reincarnation) would do battle with Sasuke(Indra's reincarnation), and continue the cycle of hatred. This path where the two could potentially kill each other might have very well been the catalyst that pushed Naruto to fulfill the evil side of his prophecy in destroying the world(among other things), made even more evident with the treatment he received growing up as a Jinchuriki(that made him hate the world back for a time), and the antagonist that reflected his character(challenging his views, and in some cases, trying to make Naruto fall as low as they did).
1. "Hard work trumps talent" was the central theme for the chunin exams and the goal Lee aspires to
2. "Overcoming one's Hatred/Destiny to further understand one another" is the overarching theme of the series as well as something Naruto needed to do(its why he has the infamous "talk no jutsu")
3. Almost every arc in the series had its own theme to follow, but as stated above, the main theme of the series definitely isn't about hard work trumping talent(you would have a better argument for "hard work", but you all get SUPER specific that it NEEDS to trump talent)
4. If you thought the MC was going to follow what is essentially Lee's theme(who LOST against Gaara in the Chunin Exams) when he has the 9 Tails(that he used against Neji that same arc), then we will just have to agree to disagree.
😊 I totally disagree with his criticism of Naruto being lazy and a hypocrite. In fact, I believe that Naruto has put in a tremendous amount of effort within his capabilities. He seem to have forgotten that Naruto is an orphan who has been living on his own. Have he taken a look at his classmates? Do he think they are putting in more effort than Naruto? What motivates them to work hard? It's because they have parents and siblings to support them in practicing ninjutsu. Do he think Shikamaru invented the Shadow Possession Jutsu on his own? It was his father who guided him. In the show, it's shown that Sasuke's brother would practice shuriken techniques with him and even guided him in the Fireball Jutsu. Other classmates have family members teaching them ninjutsu, like Hinata and Neji training together in their family dojos.
As for calling Naruto lazy and not striving to learn ninjutsu, can you imagine having to study on your own without anyone to encourage or guide you? It's a painful situation. I believe that growing up in a self-motivated and self-learned environment, Naruto has worked relatively hard. Imagine coming home to an empty house and having no one to help you with difficult math problems or no one to supervise your homework. your grades are bound to suffer. Considering Naruto's growth environment with no guidance or training from anyone, isn't it natural that his ninja skills and techniques would appear to be inferior to those of his classmates?. And don't forget, when he was learning the Rasengan, there wasn't a day when he was lazing around. There were times when he practiced until he collapsed in the forest and then woke up to continue training. Does that sound lazy to you?
Furthermore, it's absurd to accuse him of being a hypocrite. Naruto has a strong moral compass. Apart from playing pranks, he hardly ever did anything wrong. He's essentially a good-hearted and kind young man. He's willing to sacrifice himself to protect his friends and the village. In simple terms, if you were in danger and asked for Naruto's help, he would definitely shed blood to save you. How does that make him a hypocrite? He'd only be a hypocrite " IF " he was saving people just for the cash or for the fame.
I believe that Naruto act of saving his friends and the villagers is absolutely selfless and just doing the right thing , If you really insist on repaying him , maybe just treating him to a bowl of ramen would be more than enough...your evidence for calling him a hypocrite because you think he's lazy
Additionally, you seem to criticize Naruto for relying on the Nine-Tails' power. What's wrong with that? As long as he uses it for good deeds, isn't that what matters? For instance, if he saves your life, would you really care if he used the Nine-Tails' power instead of his own abilities? As long as his actions are virtuous, who cares if he relies on the Nine-Tails?
@@user-cb3cj4kz1lJesus Christ ,man .The story of Naruto himself is being referred as one that is hypocritical in nature in the video .Not necessarily the character itself regardless of how poorly written it is and the fact that logical and persuasive arguements can be made in favour of Naruto being a hypocrite himself
@@SherlockHolmesb-kp4ru What are you even saying? This guy straight up calls Naruto stupid, lazy, and a hypocritical man-baby at the end of the video 41:40 How can you say it's not necessarily the character himself?
"Naruto works hard" goes away 3 years on training with jiraya: slightly bigger rasengan...
Shows how hard he worked to even do that. Talentless kid, no magical eyes having progress.
Exactly ! He didn't even learn the basics of his innate element in those 3 years .What the heck did he even do in these 3 years when you compare the dramatical increase of his own power in such a short timespan . It is ridiculous as to why he was so freaking weak after training with jiraiya for years .He more than likely spent all that time helping jiraiya to write his porn novels and movies
and also the opposite sometimes occurs: he trains for a weak, then all of a sudden is stronger than kakashi LMAO
Never forget Naruto And Sasuke got New arms after a pointless fight between each other while Guy was left on a wheelchair after his fight with Madara
Sasuke didn't
@Lionard Kirsch so should have madara at that time
Yeah "pointless" fight. It's not like Sasuke was gonna eliminate every world leader and then control the planet through fear over generations to come.
Yeah i kinda mad at it like you could make an arm for this bastard but could not make a leg for the guy who actually buys time for our piece of shit mc to revive from the dead.
@Lionard Kirsch Dude Gai never died, Naruto healed him with his newly attained god powers while he was close to dying.
Ninjas are supposed to be silent, stealthy and sneaky.
*Naruto wearing a bright orange jumpsuit like an asshat:* BELIEVE IT!
😂😂
😂😂😂
Lol😂
Naruto is easily one of the most absurd series i've watched. It never stays true to the ideas it's supposed to be representing. No other shonen to my knowledge has this problem.
@The Legend 27 Returns to TH-cam What?
It is like a story where you get to the top leaderboard in a MMORPG claiming to be a free to play player... while being the son of the developer.
1. "Hard work trumps talent" was the central theme for the chunin exams and the goal Lee aspires to
2. "Overcoming one's Hatred/Destiny to further understand one another" is the overarching theme of the series as well as something Naruto needed to do(its why he has the infamous "talk no jutsu")
3. Almost every arc in the series had its own theme to follow, but as stated above, the main theme of the series definitely isn't about hard work trumping talent(you would have a better argument for "hard work", but you all get SUPER specific that it NEEDS to trump talent)
4. If you thought the MC was going to follow what is essentially Lee's theme(who LOST against Gaara in the Chunin Exams) when he has the 9 Tails(that he used against Neji that same arc), then we will just have to agree to disagree.
Naruto emphasizes the other person's values and plans by saying, 'That is wrong, and I will try to break the chain of hatred,' but he himself does not mention at all where and how the plan is wrong or how to create true peace. He just keep repeating empty cries of "You're wrong! I'm right, trust me!" and when that doesn't work, instead of a logical rebuttal, he just appeals to emotions like "You wanted to become Hokage too."
The Rinnegan is like when your friend said that his superpower was that he had ALL the superpowers
This but unironically LMFAO
Eric Cartman´s super power when they played Ninjas
Not really. The standard Rinnegan does give some pretty powerful abilities, which could be why only 2 people were shown to unlock it as opposed to being given someone else's eyes, however it's not as if it makes someone omnipotent for example.
Telekinesis, soul steal, summoning, healing, energy absorption, telekinesis, and the asura path basically gives you every other generic superpower if you use it creatively
@@eidolon1407 Well, the Deva path can more accurately be described as control of gravitational force (although the anime does take some liberties with this concept) and experienced Rinnegan users like Nagato have been shown to be able to fly using this path. The Ashura path can only do 2 things; create extra body parts ie arms, extra faces, etc. (to more closely resemble the Ashura of Hindu and Buddhist teachings) and use of traditional weaponry ie blades, explosives, lasers. The Rinnegan does give some generic super powers, invisibility is one such example, however most exist outside of the Ashura path.
"Someone with basic common sense would be *very* dangerous in this universe."
And that's why Fanfiction exists.
Yep, But that would be a "Mary/Gary sue" in this world.
"Fanfiction"
Are there any that are actually good?
@@quote8066 Yes. You have to look for them.
@@quote8066 The Naruto fandom has some of the best fanfiction out there. I gave up on the series a long time before it ended, but I still read fics from time to time.
@@30251 Could you post them?
Lmao I've always felt this way about naruto
Like bruhh they try to make it sound like having the nine tails inside of him is a bad thing
And then it bails him out of everything and it's ridiculous
1. Killed his parents
2. Got him isolated
3. Bailed him out solely to slowly take over(which he nearly succeeded in doing of it wasn't for the 4th hokage)
4. Nearly killed him
5. Nearly killed his friends
6. If he didn't have it, he wouldn't have been in most of the situations that made it necessary
@@thewiseyounglad2699 finally someone who gets it.
I wish you would have something like nine tails or even more terrifying inside you.
@@thewiseyounglad2699
1. Technically it was Obito who did and even then Naruto forgave him too easily so it's a moot point
2. Yeah this was a source of angst early on but it's negated by the social advantage he quickly gets as an OP shinobi because of his endless pools of chakra
3. Kurama never took over
4. He's alive isn't he?
5. None of Naruto's friends were harmed because of the nine tails.
6. If Naruto didn't have the Kyuubi, he would have died during the Land of Waves arc, let alone the chunin exams against Orochimaru, or against Pain, and so on.
No matter how much you twist it, Kurama is an advantage to Naruto rather than a hindrance since the start of the series. If you want an inner demon who actually makes the MC's life worse, watch Jujutsu Kaisen.
@NotDaveGahan 1. TECHNICALLY Kuruma killed Naruto's parents with his nail. Forgiving Kurama was something Naruto HAD to do unless he be made a hypocrite with his whole "cycle of hatred speech"(didn't even forgive him for a while, they wuite literally had to join hands cuz tge alternative was worse)
2. Naruto's isolation affected him until the Pain arc(that ends when he saves the village), and left him with emotional issues he had to work out after that when he had to train to master the 9 Tails chakra
3. End of Pain arc, Kurama DID take over, Minato simply reversed the process
4. Say that to someone who survived a near death situation and see if they came out of it perfectly fine(this point was kinda stupid)
5. Sakura got harmed
6. If Naruto didn't have Kurama, he would have lived a normal life away from the bullshit that was the main story
I'm jot saying that the 9 Tails WASNT a benefit, I'm just tired of people saying that the drawbacks was miniscule in comparison.
2:30 You know that Kishimoto is running out of ideas or just being lazy when a lot of characters in the series feels more like a Naruto rather than giving them a whole new different personality.
Rock lee did a better job of being naruto than naruto
Nope.
Can't agree more... Rock Lee and Neji deserved the development that Naruto and Sasuke had
It's sad to see that is going to happen again with Boruto being the protagonist instead of Himawari in this new generation, always letting interesting characters in secondary roles... *sigh*
Considering both Naruto and Sasuke actually stole Lee's Taijutsu in order to get where they are now. You aren't wrong. If they had never fought an opponent like Lee. They never would've realized the importance of Taijutsu and speed.
@@peganuns355 Who cares about secondary characters? No one, it's the next generation now.
Neji was born in the second strongest clan and rock lee has unbelieveable talent in tai-jutsu (no idea how to write it). Everbody in naruto is born strong.
Beginning: punching and stabbing each other with kunais
End: punching and smashing each other with their family trees
Yeah, but for me.. I felt like it was worth it. That obito arc.... It was a masterpiece In my opinion.
@The Zoom I know it was a accident but naruto x sauske is cannon
@Down 4 clearly never watched the show
@Itachi Is superior to you , if Kishimoto was just going to have Sasuke and Naruto being descendants of Alien Gods from the Moon then I think that the series should have ended with Sasuke and Itachi killing all of the villages.
@Itachi Is superior to you , hell the conflicts of war ending the series in Peace ☮️ ✌️ with Sasuke, Itachi, and the rest of the Akatsuki would have made the series a much better series to watch, read, and play than in Naruto Shippuden all the way to the current Boruto Arc, and I’d be even fine if they wanted to do a series like Boruto with the Akatsuki then I’d be throwing out endless money to Kishimoto until he dies of old age with his endless wealth.
Naruto is full of plot-holes that condemned the show to me. Like, everyone during his childhood avoids him for being like the murderer monster itself but when he grows up no obe realizes he always had this power? God damn Kishimoto
All of the parents told their kids to stay away from him. Most, if not all, kids were never taught that he had the 9 tales. The 3rd Hokage made it illegal to talk about it.
Get the brand new 2024 Uzumaki Jincherokee. Four wheel drive, turbo Chakra injection engine, and a ten year powertrain warranty.
Isn't it sad that Lee is actually more hardworking yet he is literally just a comedy relief?
He gets severely nerfed after the Gaara fight and only ever does something one more time in the entire series... it's so sad
lee is generally the best character.
maybe thats why he is the comic relief character in naruto universe. a subtle statement showing that hard work is a joke and in order to make significant impact in life, you need to be destined for greatness, a reincarnation of someone great in the past, and craft the ultimate power known as Talk No Jutsu. screw hard work, babe
@@johans3164 and maybe that's what the series was trying to teach. DUN DUN DUNNNNNN.
lee is what naruto should have been in terms of work ethic
*Naruto:* You define your destiny, your destiny does not define you.
*Naruto Shippuden:* Destiny defines everything!
You do realized that destiny still doesn't define everything right? The series even blatantly spells out that naruto and sasuke defied destiny by being the first time indra and ashura overcame thier conflict. It still shows that destiny can be defied.
@@Nunmanji Yeah, I get that, but that doesn't change everything else about the series on how destiny is the one thing that made everything happen in the series. Hard work, the main message of the series, is ultimately made pointless because destiny and natural talent wins out overall.
Nunmanji
naruto being some sort of prophecy child is what prove that destiny and fate are legit
the sage of 6 path literally confirm that when naruto was holding hands with all the tailed beasts
@Nunmanji You can't keep riding the end of the series to handwave away all the other shit that happens.
Alex Kennard Don't let this distract you from the fact that IDGAF what BS eye power Kakashi has
Might Guy (the objectively hardest working person in the series) will always be stronger than Kakashi
That stupid plotline with the mainguy teleporting back to the living world never happened
This was the narutofandom's 9/11
Lee is my all-time favorite character, for his dedication and hard work
Still weak and unprivileged person = no power loser and a nobody
Wow, Neji’s father literally died in the dumbest way possible
Like father, like son
@@JayfroC Bruh you just made my day
@@JayfroC Beat me by three days
@@JayfroC Mans literally forgot his own technique, just like Hinata forgot what Air Palm is
Yeah, they should mobilize the shinobi army to war with Kumo because they ask for it they didn’t really want peace a little bit.
Neji: You can't change your destiny.
Naruto: No, you're wrong. We can change our own destiny
Later
Neji: *dies while protecting the main family basically fulfilling his destiny*
Naruto: *the chosen child*, *Incarnation of Asura*, *child of the fourth hokage*, and *the child of prophecy*
Neji: Dude... uncool
Naruto really doesn't have the right to speak to Neji about all the "Destiny" stuff😂
@@jamie_jaja4ppl371 same with neji lol
@@zelda5764 Neji was right about everything actually.
I understood that reference
Child of prophecy doesnt mean he is predestined to succeed
Also one thing that is worth to mention when it comes to the whole Hard Work vs. Talent debate is this, hard work beats talent until talent works hard.
naruto is like, the biggest missed potential of all time. It is and was such a juggernaught for it's iconography and helped kick start anime in the west. But man, a story about ninjas and their tactics and fighting upwards as an underdog really flew out the window early on. The whole point of real life ninjas was to fight back as an under dog, they had something good going for a while there.
A shame it had to die as a second rate machismo magical girl show with extra fighting.
Really, naruto was primed for 2 other core ideals instead of hard work trumping natural talent. Never giving up, and fighting with your demons. I use to think that narutos whiskers on hisface, and his instant mastery with shadow clones was a subtle hint that he was not fully human. The fox was literally a part of him, and made up part of his personality and power set. It's initially why he could use the sexy jutsu so effortlessly, because historically the nine tailed fox would take on the shape of a beautiful woman to lead people astray to their doom. The fox didn't need naruto, but naruto needed the fox because it was a part of his soul. If it were removed, we would no longer have naruto. No shadow clones, no sexy jutsu, and his personality would essentially be gone. Just a husk.
But the damn fox is evil. Before they strong armed the whole madara bullshit in, it attacked the village cuz it was a bastard that wanted to murder. Sealing it away in a helpless naked baby was a last resort, and they had to raise the devil child cuz if it dies then the demon comes back. Everyone hates naruto for what he is but they tolerate him because they have to so they can not be murdered by a giant evil fox.
My pet theory was that in a world of secrecy, misdirection, poison, or off the wall berserk figheters, naruto was a balance of technique and raw power, his clones literally being a technique manifestation of his mastery over ninja magic and his willingness to do something 100 times as many times as the next guy. Him experiencing what his clones do should have been a key point of the narrative from day one
I don't know where the hell this Dragon ball hard work message became the point of the series when it's extremely not true. Hell, Lee was both the proof that hard work pays off, and a caution about recklessly working hard. His extreme attitude nearly got him killed against gara because while his extreme efforts went a long ways, he was not prepared for every scenario, meaning you can't just throw the best punch and win. Naruto had the technique, tools, and ability to think on the fly to make up for what the rock lee brute force and training couldn't.
But then it turned into happy kingdom hearts magical slap fight "it was all a part of the plan" now face my high numbered whooshy whooshy magic powers oh my persona will fix everything without a care in the world. At least the merch and branding was cool. The world feel is really the selling point of naruto
Damn, i kind of loved your idea about the fox. Shame, it would make for a very interesting plot and character in general
1. "Hard work trumps talent" was the central theme for the chunin exams and the goal Lee aspires to
2. "Overcoming one's Hatred/Destiny to further understand one another" is the overarching theme of the series as well as something Naruto needed to do(its why he has the infamous "talk no jutsu")
3. Almost every arc in the series had its own theme to follow, but as stated above, the main theme of the series definitely isn't about hard work trumping talent(you would have a better argument for "hard work", but you all get SUPER specific that it NEEDS to trump talent)
4.If you thought the MC was going to follow what is essentially Lee's theme(who LOST against Gaara in the Chunin Exams) when he has the 9 Tails(that he used against Neji that same arc), then we will just have to agree to disagree
1. Neji talks about destiny and how everyone has a predetermined fate. Naruto disagrees with this and explains that destiny shouldn't be used as a crutch to be a jerk, like Neji is when attempting to murder Hinata or talking down to Naruto himself.
2. So was Neji right? Everyone seems to think so, but why? Is it because Naruto is the child of prophecy? Well, it was stated that the child of prophecy would either bring peace to the world OR destroy it. The simple fact that Naruto has both agency and a choice in the outcome already puts Neji's values on shaky ground.
3. BUT! You still disagree with me. Why? Because Naruto is the reincarnation of Ashura? Well, that's funny because, as Ashura's reincarnation, Naruto is destined to meet and battle with Indra's reincarnation, Sasuke. Now Ashura did hope that a future incarnation of himself could resolve things peacefully, but his intention doesn't matter as his actions contributed to a cycle that the Sage of Six Paths feared would continue when Sasuke wanted to have his final battle with Naruto.
4. DESTINY ITSELF, the concept Neji spoke about, ordained that Naruto(as Ashura's reincarnation) would do battle with Sasuke(Indra's reincarnation), and continue the cycle of hatred. This path where the two could potentially kill each other might have very well been the catalyst that pushed Naruto to fulfill the evil side of his prophecy in destroying the world(among other things), made even more evident with the treatment he received growing up as a Jinchuriki(that made him hate the world back for a time), and the antagonist that reflected his character(challenging his views, and in some cases, trying to make Naruto fall as low as they did).
1. Naruto vs. Kakuzu, Pain, and Obito
2. Sasuke vs. Deidara, Itachi, and Danzo
3. Sakura vs. Sasori
These fights and many others used a great deal of strategy and deception throughout shippuden.
Plus, OG Naruto had:
1. 4th Hokage vs 9 Tails
2. Naruto vs Gaara
3. Sannin 3 way deadlock
These were basically Kaiju fights. OG and Shippuden aren't that different(besides the aliens, of course).
Sorry but DBZ got anime popular in the west in the late 90s. Naruto honestly felt like it was riding coattails off DBZ success.. you have Naruto who is basically Goku and you have Saskue who is Vegeta and the only two characters that matter are those two sound familiar. And they aren’t exact copies but very similar characters.
The biggest joke thats not a joke is that rock lee should have been the main character
True I like the show but I have to seen it flaws
Any character that isn't from the main trio (Naruto/Sasuke/Sakura) would be a better main character tbh
@@bonxlinx even Tenten?
@@mayo_mix1386 I would count her as well if she had a character
Tyler Black Obito?
Everyone to sasuke: revenge is NOT the answer
Everyone to shikamaru when asuma died: i support u😍
@Sweet Dreams Exactly. Society is full of hypocrites when it comes to hate and revenge. And people complain about how bad the world is when they are the problems themselves
Narutotards in general are the reason misanthropes exist
Omg i knew i wasn't the only one thinking this
@@unknownbear9811 you're far from alone on this one
Same with Naruto when Jiraya died.
Idk for some reason some part of me wished that sasuke destroyed the hidden leaf they are all a bunch of hypocrites after discriminating uchihas causes so many wars sending children to fight them they consider themselves noble heroes and every other village are shown in a bar light
What's funny is the fact that, as you said, one of the main messages of Naruto was to prove that through hard work, one can achieve anything, but half of the cast of Naruto didn't get the chance to achieve anything even despite having the drive and putting in the work because Kishimoto sidelined half of the cast, so they couldn't have ever gotten the chance to do anything they dreamed of as a result. Hell, there was even a whole filler episode (I can't remember which episode or the name of it, so don't ask lmao) that really showcased how what's supposed to be the point of Naruto isn't actually true and that hard work won't really get you anywhere if you aren't naturally talented or talented enough to where you'd at least be average. Hypocrisy at its finest lmao
Cuz he wanted to rip-off Dragon Ball so badly with his own Goku and Vegeta
Kishimoto never wanted any of those characters. He just wanted the series to be about Naruto, Sakura, and Sasuke going on missions around the world before his editors made him do a tournament arc instead.
@@theking8347 Yeah but he made those characters interesting anyway and sacked Sakura anyway
1. "Hard work trumps talent" was the central theme for the chunin exams and the goal Lee aspires to
2. "Overcoming one's Hatred/Destiny to further understand one another" is the overarching theme of the series as well as something Naruto needed to do(its why he has the infamous "talk no jutsu")
3. Almost every arc in the series had its own theme to follow, but as stated above, the main theme of the series definitely isn't about hard work trumping talent(you would have a better argument for "hard work", but you all get SUPER specific that it NEEDS to trump talent)
4. If you thought the MC was going to follow what is essentially Lee's theme(who LOST against Gaara in the Chunin Exams) when he has the 9 Tails(that he used against Neji that same arc), then we will just have to agree to disagree...
@@thewiseyounglad2699 1. Yes and it makes Lee more interesting as a character and they were doing with Naruto to a degree, yet Naruto has never had to work for anything.
2. It's ridiculous it works especially on certain villains that wouldn't care what Naruto has to say/dead set on their goals/are beyond redemption.
3. Yeah because it's depressing for a show to say "some people are born better and you shouldn't try", especially in battle Shonen. Plus it definitely is somewhat when Naruto is an outcast with no real training so his success SHOULD be a triumph against all odds but instead he's born special.
4. It's a better theme and still works with Naruto's backstory
4.
I dislike how Naruto is willing to brush Konoha's wrongdoings under the rug
Did I really just watch all 42 minutes of Naruto getting roasted?
Yes I did, lol.
naruto is a tough main character to follow and neji fuck they killed neji for no reason
@Lionard Kirsch I still think his death was pointless because they're probably hundreds of different ways a writer could have set them up. The story just used the easiest and most dramatic way. Neji died for drama although I have to admit I liked seeing his goofy ghost.
@Lionard Kirsch yeah if anything more characters should have died. It's a war Damn it!
@Lionard Kirsch true but I still like that hospital scene. Having no regrets despite what happen makes Gai the biggest badass in Naruto. But if it was only his leg that was busted couldn't the doctors just amputate the leg and just give him a new one like how Naruto got a new arm?
@UCPqVBnv3A-pdxzpwaHX67xw Neji should have died protecting Lee. Both of them would have sacrificed themselves for the other but Neji was quicker at the draw symbolically winning their rivalry. Also kill off Ino cause I don't care about her don't care about her son and mind control wouldn't help her in the war. I would say Sakura but the series would try to make you feel sorry that she died and I don't want her to get anymore screen time so she can just disappear.
"I don't know much about Naruto"
*Proceeds to explain Naruto and it's lessons in great detail*
I cry when people Say they haven’t seen jojo you sound like a fuckin normie who has shit taste in anime
*its
@@wholesomebandit8532 fuck that anime
@ITS bullzie
I mean. It's more of a commentary of kishimoto's waning writing quality. The power creep was ridiculous by the end of the series
@ITS bullzie
Exactly. Shippuden completely destroyed the message with poor writing. In part 1, power creep was low and jinchuriki, kekkai genkai weren't so op. While they were exclusive sources of power, having one wasnt a requirement to he great. With skill and strategy you could overcome 'empowered' individuals as seen with shikamaru fights, lees fights and even zabuza vs kakashi. In narutos case, kyuubi was a detriment as it was the reason for his poor chakra control. And with naruto being a child, him being the hokage to be acknowledged was believable. And then with haku and then with sasuke you see naruto starting to grow... end of part one was pretty good. The problem is part 2. You would think with narutos new found resolve he would have educated himself. He doesn't really learn. Then kishimoto made naruto a mary sue into having all these abilities and trainers. It would have been more compelling if naruto had to claw to power like kabuto. Naruto started out as an underdog, but he lost that title when kishimoto made him over powered
I come back to this video every once in a while to see the sheer copium in the comments.
@@diegoseba12 I see you intend to employ the famous “no u” tactic.
Same thing with the dragon ball video right?
Same here. it's always funny.
just realizing naruto's story could've been completed if he just becomes like Jiraiya, traveling the world learning more about the people and himself and possibly being a writer instead of being a hokage
Ikr. Like the simple fact that naruto didn't want revenge on the leaf despite how the village treated him, and the fact that he wanted to be hokage, really annoyed me. His goal should've been " to become the strongest, so I can be acknowledged by everyone, " because I don't think the strongest ninja in the village would be sitting at a desk doing paperwork.
go watch one piece u watched naruto and didn't understand anything@@hibakhan692
@@hibakhan692I think you miss the part that he becomes strong through the power of bonds and he wants to protect that bonds. He sees the village as his family so doing desk job isn’t too far from being a dad
I feel the need to throw Orochimaru into the ring of Hard Work. While he was born very intelligent, all of his crazy powers were created by his hard work, none of that bullshit madness was just handed to him. He used the power of SCIENCE! magic to improve himself rather than simply being born a freaky snake man.
notsae66 i never knew orochi has nothing special and learned a lot of jutsus
As a bonus, despite being ninja Mengele / snake Michael Jackson, Orochimaru gets to become immortal with almost zero consequences.
Hard work. Of human experimentation
Freaky snake man 💀💀
And the problem is that the bad writing got him too, since all his plans always fails. The only time he shows how powerful he is, is in the fight at the bridge against the 4/5 tails foxy, but even then he had to ran away because he wasn't powerful enough to fight against the half-baked 9 tails. The series always portraits him as a legendary powerful Villain, but he always seems more like a cartoon villain that the powers are capped that is doomed to always fail like Dr. Doofenshmirtz from Phineas and Ferb
Naruto: “I hate you”
*5 seconds later*
Naruto: _talk no jutsu_ “Friend”
He never did that to Kabuto lmao
@@jaysmith3173 Itachi says hello.
@@andrei-cezarbleaje5519 Itachi isn’t Naruto
Sai: **Makes fun of Naruto’s balls**
Naruto: I hate you
Obito: **The reason why both Naruto and Sasuke’s childhoods were a living hell**
Also Naruto: You are the coolest!
@@hellothere10yearsago97 Or
*Kakashi, his teacher who he’s grown close to for the last few years dies*
Naruto: meh
*Hinata, a girl he’s never had a complete conversation with dies*
Naruto: 6 tails
“A magic dead mother shield”💀💀
Something I 've always found very confusing is the jinchuriki tail power system. If the 10 tailed beast (juubi) was divided into 10 beasts to weaken it that would mean that every beast including juubi itself should have 1 tail each (because 10 tails divided by 10 beasts equals 1 tail each). The issue is that Shukaku has 1 tail, Matatabi 2 tails, Isobu 3 tails, Son Goku 4 tails, Kokuo 5 tails, Saiken 6 tails, Chomei 7 tails, Gyuki 8 tails and Kurama has 9, which collectively equals 55 tails including juubi. It gets even more confusing since Kurama was revealed to have been "split in half" by Minato before he sealed half inside of Naruto and the other half inside himself. Again this was done to inhibit the beasts power (because the shows logic is that the more tails a beast has the greater its power is.) So why is it that both Kuramas had 9 tails each if 9 divided by 2 equals 4.5 ?
All of this would mean:
1. that the beasts were not weakened but had even greater power than they originally had
2. When Naruto absorbed all of the tailed beasts including the other half of Kurama he should have the power of not 10 but instead of 73 tails.
So wtf was the point of it all...
I always understood it as the Juubi was divided in half. One half was Kurama (9 tails), the other half was AGAIN divided in half to create Gyuuki (8 tails), the other half got divided again and so on. It would make sense for the Juubi to be 10 tails following this type of division. Though this way does makes Shukaku and Matatabi equal in power, so IDK
In jinchuuriki sense it would also mean that even if every jinchuuriki uses 1 tail of power, Naruto/Kurama's 1 tail would still be more powerfull than all the others, in the sense of quantity of chakra.
Also Naruto having only one half of Kurama sealed inside of him is kinda... hard to make sense, becasue if we follow the idea that I used before it would mean that he has the same quantity of chakra as would Bee/Gyuuki. Although it gets even harder to explain cause he only has the yang chakra of Kurama and Bee has the whole of Gyuuki's chakra (yin and yang)... The Naruto series doesn't really follow much the whole yin and yang thing, you could theoretically try to say that Naruto only has the yang Kurama so he only has those properties but as I said the series doesn't really use that for more than 'genjutsu is yin based and blahblah'
The amount of tails has nothing to do with power. 9 just has the most out of the bunch due to "hatred" being its source of power or some stupid shit.
the reason of thoese consistency is simple really, its retcon
my guess is that the juubi is not planned from the start,or even until later on shipudden, same with the detail of how minato sealed kurama
unlike one piece,nartuo doesnt exactly have cleaar end game so kishimoto is just winging the detail
Naruto is basically a dead rich man’s son who says he works hard (which he does), but the inheritance money helps A LOT
eh..
It's even more than that, like Plague says, He's the reincarnation of a christ analog - fitting because even the fan base calls Nardo and Sauce "The super jesus brothers" after the ending of shippuden.
That's a good analysis,he does work hard though, much more than other side characters (except Lee maybe) so him earning the fruits of that is understandable.
@@DarkAuraLord You know how hard it is to he a christ figure? Try having no friends, and even though you're helping everyone, they still resent you. Keep that up for a few decades see how easy and plot armor filled it is. Naruto had no joke the hardest life, and the highest chance of failure, his upbeat attitude in the face of what he was encountering throughout his childhood is a miracle in itself and why he succeeded more than the nine tails and plot armor. So did sasuke his life was a living nightmare. Great pain enables that great destiny by contrast but only if you can turn it into growth which they did, but that isn't like a plot guarantee naruto and sasuke could have failed at any point but didn't because they never gave up not cause of priveledges afforded them.
His father gave him a small loan of 9 million chakra.
Plus the reincarnation of Ninja Jesus's son.
Plus related to three of the other hokage
Plus related to literal royalty
Plus the Uzumaki bloodline
Neji was right about fate determining everything, no matter how much Naruto (both the character and the series) claimed otherwise. He just didn't know Naruto had the most ridiculous pedigree in the entire series
Naruto at the beginning: Hard work beats talent, nothing is pre-destined.
Naruto at the end: Everything was pre-destined, Naruto is a demi-god and the reincarnation of the creator of the ninja world.
@Go Time Now no not even One piece makes hella mistakes
@Go Time Now Dont get me wrong i like naruto but i agree with the retcons it has but stop hyping one piece up i might be a little biased when im critising one piece because i slept through half of the episodes but it has hella retcons
@@legacyabyss5228 I don't remember one piece having any retcons
Having potential is not equal to being powerful.
On the bright side in the end they change destiny, ever so slightly. Lol. Cause the reincarnations of Indra and Ashura were destined to fight forever, Naruto and Sasuke broke the cycle. Really the only plot point the show hits. All the other ones were dropped for god powers and destiny.
This was pretty cathartic to watch, embodies all the issues I have with the show. Also I must say one thing, Gaara might be the best written character that wasn't thrown into trash for the sake of the main duo. He was psychotic, lost a fight that forced him to listen, he took the advice and worked his ass off to overcome the mental torment and became someone good without being destined for it.
Gaara as a concept is great, but his character arc was lazily written. How does a character with heaps of trauma go from being a psycho who kills others for sport to become all good just because the MC talked to him? It makes no sense. If you're gonna try to redeem a character like that, make it make sense!
Gaara had the potential to become a raw ass villain though.
@@NotDaveGahan Fair but he's barely a secondary character so I let it pass, shinobi do have to mature fast by the world rules but some break those more than others anyway.
😊 I totally disagree with his criticism of Naruto being lazy and a hypocrite. In fact, I believe that Naruto has put in a tremendous amount of effort within his capabilities. He seem to have forgotten that Naruto is an orphan who has been living on his own. Have he taken a look at his classmates? Do he think they are putting in more effort than Naruto? What motivates them to work hard? It's because they have parents and siblings to support them in practicing ninjutsu. Do he think Shikamaru invented the Shadow Possession Jutsu on his own? It was his father who guided him. In the show, it's shown that Sasuke's brother would practice shuriken techniques with him and even guided him in the Fireball Jutsu. Other classmates have family members teaching them ninjutsu, like Hinata and Neji training together in their family dojos.
As for calling Naruto lazy and not striving to learn ninjutsu, can you imagine having to study on your own without anyone to encourage or guide you? It's a painful situation. I believe that growing up in a self-motivated and self-learned environment, Naruto has worked relatively hard. Imagine coming home to an empty house and having no one to help you with difficult math problems or no one to supervise your homework. your grades are bound to suffer. Considering Naruto's growth environment with no guidance or training from anyone, isn't it natural that his ninja skills and techniques would appear to be inferior to those of his classmates?. And don't forget, when he was learning the Rasengan, there wasn't a day when he was lazing around. There were times when he practiced until he collapsed in the forest and then woke up to continue training. Does that sound lazy to you?
Furthermore, it's absurd to accuse him of being a hypocrite. Naruto has a strong moral compass. Apart from playing pranks, he hardly ever did anything wrong. He's essentially a good-hearted and kind young man. He's willing to sacrifice himself to protect his friends and the village. In simple terms, if you were in danger and asked for Naruto's help, he would definitely shed blood to save you. How does that make him a hypocrite? He'd only be a hypocrite " IF " he was saving people just for the cash or for the fame.
I believe that Naruto act of saving his friends and the villagers is absolutely selfless and just doing the right thing , If you really insist on repaying him , maybe just treating him to a bowl of ramen would be more than enough...your evidence for calling him a hypocrite because you think he's lazy
Additionally, you seem to criticize Naruto for relying on the Nine-Tails' power. What's wrong with that? As long as he uses it for good deeds, isn't that what matters? For instance, if he saves your life, would you really care if he used the Nine-Tails' power instead of his own abilities? As long as his actions are virtuous, who cares if he relies on the Nine-Tails?
Gaara is literally Naruto if he's written right. They both have similar backstories, but the plot is written to not make Gaara having privilege. He has to work hard to be someone that is being respected (by being empathetic). The plus point is Gaara didn't contradict himself
@@user-cb3cj4kz1l ugh i see self-insert naruto fans here. Okay, what you said about him being kind is right, but as the story went, kishi's writing on naruto contradicted to what naruto is first introduced to us. Naruto taught us that hard work beats talent, but kishi's writing as time goes by we learn that naruto has infamous ninja bloodline, the political allies who knew his family. Hard work? Nah, Naruto was born with talent and connection already
As a fan of the series, what I'm pissed most about is that you're 100% right
As a fan of the series who don't listen to TH-camrs.nah he's not right.
maybe if you'd listen then you might agree with his points
@@ceet-rg3ur 🤣🤣. I'm sorry that I think for myself
"Hokage is the best fighter, so he does all the paper work..."
Damn, i actually never thought about how dumb it is, lol
President does a lot of paperwork too..
So....
#Sonu sharma he got elected NOT because he can punch better than his opponents. Here the difference. Tsunade also didn’t have any of “president education” she just heal very well and punch really strong. That’s all.)
Funnily enough, though, it's a thing IRL too. It's called "Peter's principle". After all, in the army, you COULD be promoted in rank thanks to your merits in battle... thus ending up commanding more and fighting less, and the moment you won't be promoted any more is either when you die or when you start being incompetent at your new job.
Yeah I never got that either. A Kage is usually supposed to be the best ninja in the village and a person people expect to protect the village if it's in danger but the Kage has to be the one stuck in the office doing all the paperwork. When Pain attacked the village Tsunade didn't even fight him. Everyone else did and most of them died and the village got destroyed
Kinda like the best player on a sports team being the manager instead of actually playing.
I mean last 270 episodes of shippuden are just flexing cool eyeballs
Edit: wow thanks for 1,8k likes never got that much before :)
I’m an Uchiha fan and find this to be true 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Oh... You trained for 9999999+ days just to fight me?doesnt matter my eyes are cooler than yours
Yeah like seriously.
The end fight was.
Sasuke: I have cooler red eye
Madara: but I have circle grey!
Sasuke fucking dies.
Naruto: I have cool eye of foxtoad.
Madara: *CIRCLE GRAY*
Naruto fucking dies.
Sasuke and naruto come back with better eyes.
Madara: I have grey circle eye!
Sasuke: I have a combination of your and my own eyes!
Naruto: I have art on my palm!
Madara fucking dies.
Ok Boomer But It's a Cat the end fight was with kaguya tho
@@noblelewis4620 probably the last fight of Madara
Kabuto is the best example of hard work challenging birthgifts.
wrong
@@garywebb2432 why?
cause he got power from merging with orochimaru and his chakra@@afonsodealbuquerque1879
U not absolutely wrong as 2 faced #sskissers to powerful ppl ,usually go far politically if u think abt it
Kabuto took out 5 anbu shinobi without making a sound and is a master medical shinobi he's not weak by any means
Grounded analysis of these detached power fantasy animes are fascinating, Eli is that guy that offers a sane perspective when everyone either goes off the rails or buys into the hype for better or worse he is consistent, Love these style of videos.
"His father, Might Dai"
No, his father DID die.
Oh man ... Best comment !
Dude I literally spit taked reading this.
"His political connections give him the best training money can buy." Holy shit.
It's facts though
At least it's realistic
To play a bit of devil's advocate here, his political connection to Tsunade seems to be 100% earned. He debated her, made a wager, then won that wager while simultaneously saving her life and helping her overcome her traumas. He also didn't use any dog power during this process except to gain a few extra hours of training time. The only inherent advantage I see here is that he was introduced by Jiraiya, but Tsunade didn't seem to be swayed very much by that fact. Overall, Naruto's political connection to Tsunade could have been fairly earned by absolutely anybody who was placed at the same dinner table as her.
i mean i dont remember him paying for it so the fact that he got it for free is an absolute steal
@@ClashBluelight He always more or less had political connections to her though. When they first met she clearly stated that he looked as bad/dumb as Jaraia's last apprentice IE his father. The only reason he was sitting across from her at that table and with Jaraia in the first place was because he was a Hokage's son. So it comes full circle.
I would like to add that Naruto's society pretends that men are women are (at least somewhat) equal. Yet, we almost never see a female character amount to anything. The function of the few female characters is simply to be tokens that hold the enemy until the products-of-divine-eugenics-and-magical-eye-science male leads arrive. Even Tsunade who is one of the more decent female characters is completely overshadowed by Jiraya and Orochimaru. Even Conan is a little more than a henchman to Nagato.
I wouldn't have had problem if the author wanted to explore a pre-modern society where not everyone is equal. However, that is simply not the case in Naruto where everyone is happily working together. Once again, the story pretends that it has a message of equality and "hard work and ambition always triumph" while always demonstrating the contrary.
Chiyo is prolly the only exception I can think off (the final boss doesn't really count). That's prolly because she isn't a cute anime girl designed for r34 purposes and an actual character.
Is Boruto any better when it comes to that? I'd fucking hope Sarada is allowed the screentime and relevancy
The author is so bad at female characters
no its realistic@@paperremix
@Dracozauryks bozo u literally comparing Konan a low to mid kage tier character to pain who is low to mid demi-god and expect her not to be overshadowed ? tsunade maybe would've been more powerfu lif shedidn't go on to drink and gamble all day after losing faith after dan and her brother died
kishimoto has admitted that he can't write female characters. which i struggle to sympathize with when, unless you're wanting to explore themes about gender (which naruto isn't), it is literally as simple as "just write the gd character and don't care about what's inbetween their legs"
People saying the theme is to overcome the cycle of hatred, but the only character that represents that is *Haku* despite being the antagonist of the show..
I don’t think it’s the cycle of hatred only either
It’s between gaining power through forming bonds or cutting them away.
Madara, Indra and sasuke gained their power by casting away their bonds, with the uchiha unlocks their strongest power from killing their closest aide and injecting themselves with their kin’s eye. Ashura and naruto gained their power through connecting with more people. As naruto meet more people, he gains more power.
There is also sub plot too like a world of dreams and lies against the brutal world of harsh reality. This one in particular is the one I’m mad about because introducing kaguya and aliens essentially killed this one.
For pain arc it was whether a peaceful yet dictatorial world built on fear is the right world.
For gaara and kurama it was hatred and having someone that reach out to you. If you watch when kurama finally accepts naruto, you can see the flashback of all of his “controller” before. All of them either are fearful of him and either wants to use him for their own good or lock and distant him while naruto was the only one ever to reach out and wanting to help him.
I don’t think this show has ever been about hard work beating talent and Lee lost against gaara should have already made it clear that in this world, hard work can only get so far. It’s actually probably the most cynical view that the author is secretly putting there.
So? It's the antagonists who defines the theme of a show, not some side character.
@@mvmsma antagonist are more impactful than side characters.
@@mvmsma it's a minor antagonist who actively overcomes hatred... Pain just kinda gave up .., Obito changed his mind twice ... Sasuke overcoming his hatred was really watered down .
Throughout the whole series we never learn about Minato's heritage like where did he even come from😂
He just there cuz he needs to be.
@Zanaki Senkai depends on what type of heritage we are talking about.
sakura is a perfect example for a heritage i hope minato's has.
@Zanaki Senkai only good training arc was naruto obtaining sage mode.
kishimoto fault for not explaining any of his powersysteem and skills.
Can't learn about Minato fam, gotta keep Naruto strong, that's all that matters
His heritage was kishimoto. Minato's dad is kishimoto.
So jiraiya, kakashi, and hiruzen all had a great relationship with Minato, but completley ignores his orphan son, it also baffles me how hiruzen says that he'll take care of naruto but all he did was put a roof over his head. Like at least put him in a orphan system or some shit. And jyria was so close to minato, he could've raised his son (who was named after a character in one of jyria's books) but no instead he was to busy "researching".
I agree with you, but kakashi or jiraiya taking care of naruto wouldnt make much sense in my opinion, it's out of character, especially for horny jiraiya. He's just a talented ninja who has little to no morals and is always drunk hahaha.
@@potxtoe Kakashi might would've done it and it not be out of character. Going off flashbacks, it's very weird that he didn't do it. It also makes no sense that no one told Naruto who his parents were.
It's almost as if all that backstory was Asspull No Jutsu
I don’t think being in a orphanage would have been good for him. I mean, he was in one when he was a baby. But being in a place run by people who hate/despise you mustn’t have been great for him.
@@CassidyStarke Once all the backstory came out for Naruto, it didn't make *any* sense for people to hate him.
Kurama was sealed into him in secret, so only a few know about it, and he's the son of the most beloved Hokage up until that point.
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It's not like Gaara whose mom died in childbirth and was constantly hurting people, because wasn't the son of a master of sealing techniques and is not of a powerful jinchuuriki host bloodline(Uzumaki can cling to live awhile after their beast is removed, but everyone else dies immediately).
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Naruto doesn't hurt anyone and there's literally no reason to be mean to him or blame him for the incident that incident, especially since Uchiha were also blamed for it
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I’m also not 100% how people found out. But it’s not that hard to piece together, I mean there were people around still.
I mean the 9 tails attacks the village, 4th and wife fight, 9 tails disappears, all there is left is a baby.
I’m guessing is that most found out but were either afraid to say something, of knew not to.
the two characters that embody the themes of naruto are sakura and lee, neither of which come from a special bloodline, both having to work for everything they have
that is not the theme of the show idiot
My favorite part is when u shit on Naruto for getting his ideology destroyed by neji
That part was BRUTAL 😂
1. Neji talks about destiny and how everyone has a predetermined fate. Naruto disagrees with this and explains that destiny shouldn't be used as a crutch to be a jerk, like Neji is when attempting to murder Hinata or talking down to Naruto himself.
2. So was Neji right? Everyone seems to think so, but why? Is it because Naruto is the child of prophecy? Well, it was stated that the child of prophecy would either bring peace to the world OR destroy it. The simple fact that Naruto has both agency and a choice in the outcome already puts Neji's values on shaky ground.
3. BUT! You still disagree with me. Why? Because Naruto is the reincarnation of Ashura? Well, that's funny because, as Ashura's reincarnation, Naruto is destined to meet and battle with Indra's reincarnation, Sasuke. Now Ashura did hope that a future incarnation of himself could resolve things peacefully, but his intention doesn't matter as his actions contributed to a cycle that the Sage of Six Paths feared would continue when Sasuke wanted to have his final battle with Naruto.
4. DESTINY ITSELF, the concept Neji spoke about, ordained that Naruto(as Ashura's reincarnation) would do battle with Sasuke(Indra's reincarnation), and continue the cycle of hatred. This path where the two could potentially kill each other might have very well been the catalyst that pushed Naruto to fulfill the evil side of his prophecy in destroying the world(among other things), made even more evident with the treatment he received growing up as a Jinchuriki(that made him hate the world back for a time), and the antagonist that reflected his character(challenging his views, and in some cases, trying to make Naruto fall as low as they did).
It's funny how Rock Lee was miles above anybody at that tournament. Nobody there stood a chance against him, every other fight after that looked like a kindergarten play.
Whisper quietly there was 2 jinchuriki there
TBF Rock Lee would've actually beaten anyone else in seconds.
You forget Naruto vs Gaara? With giant frogs, giant fox and giant sand monster?
@@pedromendonca1240 Naruto hadn't learned summoning and Gaara didn't need/want to use Shukaku in the first round.
Pretty sure Rock Lee admitted that Neji was better then him
"Naruto and Assmunch over here"
14 minutes in and that's how you introduce Sasuke
In naruto speech is genetic
I thought it was a pun on words sasuke hair is a literal duck which many people call him duckbutt so I thought it was that
As he should be
@Darth Revan How is Sasuke written amazingly, lol. He's just a power hungry and bloodthirsty, and half his actions makes zero sense.
@@ThomasNoname it does make sense lol you think madara obito pain had good reasons 🤣 their reasons were more petty compared to sasuke
Even when I was a teenager I could figure out that Naruto was explicitly targeted at rich kids with no special skills at all.
The ninja training is an analogy of a military academy, minus of course the boring uniforms and the stupidity.
There's of course Naruto, who's a terrible student, who gets assigned to a team with Sakura and Sasuke, both smarter than him. As the show progresses, what happens? Sakura, even though initially gifted, takes on a passive role, and Sasuke turns out evil, while Naruto gets bailed out by his hidden power in every fight no matter how stupid he is, and in the end everything works out and he becomes Hokage anyway.
The message is clear as water. As long as you were born in an influencial family, you will eventually reach power if you wait long enough. Don't worry, you can do stupid things and all will be fine, the smart kids at school will only take a secondary role or cause trouble. Although I respect Kishimoto-sensei for his dedication and ability, it's so obvious that what he did was create a story to justify the power of privileged and lazy bureaucrats. The only surprise is that you need to make a video to call it out lol.
Ya took the words out of my mouths, dangerously based
I think this video is super necessary to piss off these naruto fans
Capitalist Kishimoto?
dude, it is bad anime with stupid writing, you don't need to dig that deep(although mentioned is true but it's cliche of life)
bruh I never thought of the water as kurama's piss, but I cannot forget it
It's a urine colour