Plot Holes That RUINED Naruto..
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The biggest plot hole in Naruto is how Tenten got those mirrors on the ceiling to cheat during the chunin exam without the proctors noticing.
Lmao
They saw it 😂 they actually saw everyone who was cheating but only caught the ones with no creativity
Or Gaara's very obvious sand eye
They probably only negated points from people who used zero intelligence or ninjutsu/genjutsu to cheat. Basically the ol fashion way we mortals cheat
The point was to be clever with your Ninjustu/ Kekkei Genkei to cheat. That's why when you see others just straight up look over to cheat they get a point taken even if it was more subtle than TenTens mirrors on the ceilinf
Is it ever explained how people can rip the eyeball out of someone else's head, shove it into their own eye socket and it just works as a functioning eye, magic abilities and all?
😂😂😂 ikr!
Bruh they perform magic as ninjutsu basically and take insane amounts of damage that isn't humanly possible and you're worried about an eyeball? Lol
@@RemyBeastyea but if that’s the case, how they all switching eye balls like a pair of shoes. But guy never gets his legs back 😂
@@armaansidhu6233 That's actually pretty funny. We haven't seen anyone try to snatch a leg. I guess those are more complicated in this universe lol.
@@armaansidhu6233they have technology now too. They better Lt. Dan my boy Guy. Also doesn’t make sense that Sasuke never used the six paths like pain did like he could rewrite reality to have two rinnegans or whatever n then go in that big ol mouth mf n get the eye back. Hell his arm too. He could give guy his legs back too. Like what the fuck?!
Hiruzen not taking care of Naruto like his own child is the biggest and most glaring plothole that Kishimoto retroactively created by going down the "muh protagonist is related to the most awesomest characters" trope.
The anime kinda explains that by showing hiruzen as a bad father and a not so involved grandfather
I still don’t get why Hiruzen didn’t make it official that Naruto is 4th’s son
@@madster01It was stated that it was to protect Naruto from being targeted as the son of a Hokage on top of being a Jinchuriki, which already makes him a target. Naruto being a Jinchuriki was actually ordered to be kept secret in the village. If Naruto being Minato’s son was made public knowledge, enemies of the village would easily be able to figure out who the Nine Tails had been sealed inside I guess 🤷🏻♂️
@Kaiser_MHA the thing is he is thr only one with blonde hair and was given the name Uzumaki which only kushina was in the hidden leaf
@@daddy_pancake4039
Hiruzen isn’t very smart…
A plot hole you missed was obito placing a perfect jinchuuriki under genjutsu for years with base sharingan. They say its impossible for perfect jinchuuriki to be under genjutsu because of the partner method. Even more, if obito's genjutsu was that good why not use it on naruto and killer bee instead of spending like 100 episodes fighting them.
Who was it, i mean who was obito controlling?
@@user-fs3rp3qv8e three tail jinchuriki
@@user-fs3rp3qv8e 4th mizukage, yagura.
Edit: spelling
@@user-fs3rp3qv8e they're talking about Yagura, the fourth mizukage.
I wouldn’t jump straight to calling it a plot hole for a couple reasons:
• ‘Base Sharingan’ is not true. Obito has MS, but the series always shows it as base Sharingan until the fight just before he’s unmasked. They had to do that to avoid revealing that he had Obito’s eye before the intended moment. So nah, Obito has MS.
• Yagura is indeed a perfect Jinchuriki who has full control over his Tailed Beast, but having control isn’t what prevents Genjutsu. We see that Perfect Jinchuriki CAN be placed under Genjutsu but the Tailed Beast can then snap them out of it. A simple explanation is that Yagura (who we know was a cruel leader before he was even under Obito’s control) simply didn’t have a good relationship with Isobu, therefore Isobu didn’t help him break free.
So I don’t think we can say it’s a plot hole, since there is a valid explanation. The only times we’ve seen a Perfect Jinchuriki breaking out of genjutsu is when their friendly Tailed Beast actively chooses to help them. Yagura was most likely not on good terms with Isobu so Isobu chose not to.
Kishimoto spent years claiming the appearance similarities between Naruto and Minato were coincidental and he absolutely was not Naruto's father.
Lol, raise your hand if you belive that.
(Entire village raises hand)
Had to be my first conspiracy theory💀😂. The funniest part is how Minato’s face monument hair changed throught the story from straight to spiky💀.
@@matthewpopow6647 especially with how few blond characters there are in the universe. Obvious Naruto and Minato aren't the only ones but there aren't even really any background characters with blond hair. There's maybe 5 or 6 notable chars with blond hair
Maybe kishimoto forgot in advance
which if true miserably failed since naruto last name is uzumaki and there was only one uzumaki in the village, just like nick said give another surname
Why no one in the village ever figured out who Naruto was is always going to be infuriating to me. The fact that common sense could tell who Naruto's parents were and somehow the village never figured it out. Did the villagers have tunnel vision or something?
Jonin knew but why would adults know since Kushina being the nine tails isn’t public info
@@Axel-ye8tt Even still, Uzumaki is a pretty unique name. There was only one person in the entire Village with that name, and she just so happened to be married to the Fouth Hokage. It's like knowing the First Lady. Pretty sure someone would have known Kushina Uzumaki was married to the Fourth Hokage and pregnant with his child. Even if Kushina was a nobody, people would still remember her as the being Hokage's wife.
@@NinjaCman1Well considering that Kushina and Minato died on the day the nine tails attacked, someone could just spread the news that the Hokage's child dies along with them and Naruto could just be said to be another unknown Uzumaki who happens to have blond hair. Also, since he was the nine tails jinchuriki, he was hated so they probably wouldn't put 2 and 2 together
@@mawandembatha6622an uzumaki with the Hair of the yondaime .. and the nine tails in him.
Damn i wonder who this kid is
They could have just died Naruto's hair or had him have a different hair style, long blond hair and poof, he doesn't look like Minato.
I definitely agree with the Danzo one being a plothole. Not only would Danzo have been the most obvious choice even without use of hypnosis, he should have been a much better-seeming choice than Tsunade. Tsunade was, at the time, an inactive missing-nin with a gambling addiction. Why was she the council's only choice?
Nepotism:
Hashirama’s granddaughter
Bullshit, I know
@@micahcoleman2760 stronger than danzo
@@ADEtheMayhemnot at the time she was chosen.
Cuz Danzo wasnot exist at that time. Some idiots try to make sense that but it has no obvious reason than he wasnot existed. If he was than its a huge stupid decision by danzo.
@@mehmetcelik-td8bmyeah if they wanted to hint at him earlier they could have just had it that he got fired and vanished in the mess following the uchiha massacre, so nobody can find him and he isn't an option, and then have him reappear after Tsunade's coma, and make up some goal that Danzo and ROOT had been pursuing in the meantime.
The Kurama helping Naruto one never felt like too big of a plothole to me. We find out that only 1/2 the Kyuubi was sealed in Naruto, with the other half being sealed in Minato with the Reaper Death Seal. It’s possible imo that Kurama wasn’t entirely certain if he would reform if Naruto died because no other tailed beast had ever been split in half like he had. Hence deciding that his best bet was the slow & steady method of “full possession + manifestation”
Yeah but the whole split into Yin and Yang thing was so dumb and didn't make sense
@@furiousgamerxz5141minato split it when he sealed him in naruto and himself
They split from the 10 tailed and can reform so ofc he will refom after Naruto dies. He is just a mass of chakra where is he gonna go?
also using Naruto as vessel would help him being hidden because he surely knew people were after him and until he was ready to come out it was better to help naruto to survive instead of trying to escape from the moment he could, also you can see kind of a sympathie from early on because if how Naruto was treated
Yesss exactly
Not sure if this is a plothole, but the fact that Neji was told he was completely wrong about life being fated by naruto and how your circumstances at birth dont matter, hard work prevails, etc. , only for us to find out Naruto inherited the genes of a clan with one of the craziest Chakra reserves, has the strongest tailed beast sealed inside him by his hokage father upon birth, and is the reincarnation of A. LITERAL. DEMIGOD.
Edit: I just learned what a retcon is lol
Then Neji died for the Hyuuga clan…
It was showing that people love to bullshit themselves into thinkin there's no such thing as Fate, when their is lol. Fight as hard as you want, try to outsmart Fate all you want, plan something out as much as you want, shit is always going to go, EXACTLY as it was always going to. Whether you like it or not.
Naruto defied his fate and proved Neji wrong. All incarnations of Asura are fated to battle Indra for all eternity. Naruto ended that cycle.
@@TheCrackerSeal No, the cycle ended because Zetsu's plan reached it's end....lol, his plan wasn't meant to go on forever, if Kaguya's return wasn't till two reincarnations after Naruto, you would say that person broke the cycle. Everything ends eventually, Naruto was destined to be the one who got to end the eon's long plan of Zetsu lol. Even prophecies are bound by Fate.
@@ItApproaches That is literal head canon. Just because Zetsu triggered the cycle does not mean his plans conclusion also ends it. It could have very easily gone had Naruto not been the one to end it.
Still want to address the plot hole that Obito didn't need to declare the 4th Ninja war, he could've used the Zetsu's to transform into ninja from other villages , since it was said that their transformation was perfect, even down to replicating the same chakra as the person they transformed into. With that, the Zetsu clones would then attack other ninja villages and have all the villages declare war on each other. Then in the confusion Obito could then capture Naruto and Bee.
To do that they had to actually get some of the chakra of the person they wanted to transform into, though. That's how they used this same tactic during night 1 of the war (And on day 1 you can see a white zetsu trapping and siphoning chakra from Neji, who is then the most important person impersonated in the night-raid of the medical ninja area)
That wouldn't work as they needed to get chakra of the person they wanted to transform into.
@@jaydenc367 He had 15+ years to gather it dow
@@jaydenc367 He's also Obito?? He could very easily kidnap some lower ranked ninja's and some higher ranked ones and then send them off at other villages.
Very cool theory.
@@toonlink_v2 Easier said then done especially with how many people he would need, he would become noticed pretty fast.
What theory?
Obito staying out of the hidden leaf because of “jiraiya” is hilarious
To be honest, the Akatsuki's plan was terrible at rip. Two man teams? Bro. One member literally crippled the leaf. Imagine if every time the Akatsuki wanted to capture a Jinchuriki they literally all went. No village stands a chance against every single akatsuki member at once.
Now perhaps this would have forced some sort of allied Shinobi Forces way earlier in the series, or a different plan from Itachi. But to be honest, when they started losing members to literally only the leaf, it's pretty obvious that they needed some more manpower for some of these operations.
From what I've seen of Naruto in the earlier episodes when he still couldn't control the Nine Tailed Fox whenever he would get really angry he would start turning into the Nine Tailed Fox. If the people in the hidden leaf village knew that if Naruto got too angry the Nine Tailed Fox would start to emerge you'd think they try to treat him a little better.
I'm not sure if that would count as a plot hole.
Nah not a plot holes, just Stupidity from the Villagers
At least with Itachi not curing his illness I would theorize he wanted to die after the massacre and in his depression contracting an illness that would slowly and painfully so going through with finding a cure for his disease is something Itachi saw as undeserved on the likes of him for his deeds.
That’s pretty much exactly what I was thinking too! Just keeping himself alive long enough for Saskue to take him out.
That makes far to much sense.
I thought it was pretty clear why Itachi didn't cure his illness. His whole plan was essentially to have Sasuke kill him, take his eyes to fain eternal Mangekyou, and return to the village. He took medicine (eyedrops) just enough to live long enough/to fight sasuke but just weak enough to give Sasuke a fair fight perhaps also as a way of atonement for what he did to his clan as well as Sasuke himself.
This is exactly why I really wanted to see how itachi dealt with the consequences of the massacre on himself , similiar how we saw kakashi crying after he killed rinn and kept washing his hand at the sink
Problem is that we never shown Itachi really struggle with what he did or something like that because he just being in such a pit of self loathing he never reached for help beyond what was needed to keep himself alive would make sense taking into account he is the one who killed every adult in his clan and did nothing to stop the death of the children. Like it makes a lot of sense but also its never even implied, like kisame respected Itachi enough to probably say at least "hey you should get that checked" and man just getting ignored or something but i did not read any of the novels so maybe there is something else there?
The amount of plot armour that sasuke had especially against deidara always tilted me like really hard, everything was convenient for sasuke in that fight
What NCH said is correct tho. Deidara made the false assumption he was out of chakra because he deactivated the sharingan and thought it was a forced deactivation and thats kinda how the anime presented it. In the manga deidara says that he still has chakra left but willingly deactivates the sharingan because sasuke isnt taking him seriously and already decleared the fight to be over which pissed him off even more
Sasuke vs Bee was worse, IMO.
Bee had Sauske dead to rights 3 or 4 times during that fight lol.
On par with Naruto vs Pain.
The entire fight was written so either wins. Plot convinience at it's finest.
Deidara being so vulnerable to Lightning Style was the biggest mistake for me.
You must've read or watch the fight once
Why didn’t Madara use the Six Paths Jutsu to make six puppets for himself to enact his plan? If he really was “Madara”, wouldn’t Chakra range be laughable to him? I know he only awakened the Rinnegan much later, but he still could have done this much like Nagato still did it despite being a walking skeleton.
Madara died right after awakening it, so I do not think he had a chance even if he wanted to.
@@micahcoleman2760 No, Madara didn't dies right after awakening Rinnegan. He himself gives his rinnegan to nagato, then saves Obito and does ots of things and then dies
In defense of #8 Madaras insane Rube Goldberg revival plan, he seemingly lived in isolation for over 50 years after his fight with Madara. With his later years being completely alone in dank & dark cave with black and white Zetsu as roommates.
You’d probably start having some weird ideas too lol
Yeah, fighting yourself does sometimes end that way.
Another plot hole that really bothers me, is that Kabuto states you need genetic material of whoever you want to reanimate, but a few of the people he reanimate wouldn’t have had any to use, such as Sasori and Deidara
Material can be gathered before death but you're right with deidara especially
Deidara'a arm was in the Kamui realm after Kakashi sniped it so Obito could just fetch it and give it to Kabuto
@@mawandembatha6622 thats a bigger asspull than kaguya
Their genetic material was collected before they died. Kabuto was using Orochimaru’s materials to create the reanimations. The same Orochimaru who tried to take Itachi’s sharingan and failed. Stealing genetic material in comparison would be relatively easy.
If you could get genetic material before death, then why not also re-animate jiriya....?
I always assumed the reason Itachi never did anything about his illness was because keeping it made it more believable that Sasuke could beat him, which is what he ultimately wanted. I'm sure I remember someone saying he had to go all out in that fight so being full strength he probably would've won. Just more convenient to keep the illness to improve Sasukes chances.
You also need Senju cells to use Izanagi .
He definitely wasn't going all out 😂
@@gonzafreytes9006i don’t think you do, if I remember correctly the uchihas that used it in the flashback of the itachi vs kabuto fight didn’t seem to posses Senin Chakra but who knows except kishimoto
No, from what i've seen, itachi did not even have the intention to fight properly. From the very start, i think itachi already plotted his death to be killed by sasuke, no matter sasuke strenght, so even if sasuke still weak, the moment they properly fight, itachi just act and let sasuke kill him.
@elfielspectra3107 oh he definitely intended to be killed by sasuke from the get go, im just saying having that illness made that task more achievable and lowered the possibility that Sasuke would realise Itachi held back.
Not only did Naruto fail the graduation exam multiple times, meaning that he had the opportunity to take it. An opportunity that I'm certain, if a student could request a graduation exam when self considered ready, Sasku would have requested one years before. Plus, Naruto was in the same class, same students that he graduated with, from the beginning.
You can’t prove that😂 only flashbacks we see are him in his konoha 11 class and most of those flashbacks were filler anyway. It’s very reasonable to assume he entered the academy earlier.
I came across the other kids' graduation years. Itachi without sharingan 7 years old. Izumi (with sharingan)11years old. Obito and Rin 9 years old. Kakashi 5 years old... The golden generation and Neiji "the Hyuga genius" all 12 yo...
It's incomprehensible that Sasuke, with his desire for revenge, didn't choose to take the exam earlier around 9-10 years old when he was already quite talented.
20:45 Based on what I've heard, the theory behind Naruto being able to fail the test three times while remaining in the same class as everyone else is that schools in Japan often conduct tests every three months. However, this is mere speculation since the series was created for a Japanese audience, and perhaps they could relate to it more.
That's what I was thinking. Is it stated that they only do exams once every year at the same time with no special retakes?
If that isn't stated then naruto could've taken the exam like 3 times in like one week.
we see the graduations and naruto being on the swing but correct me if I'm wrong we don't know how much time is between those graduations. The academy could have a rotation of students graduating at different times throughout the year
Japanese, and Indonesia as the nation that got influenced by Japanese in terms of education system, both conduct difficult tests every three months. But it's not graduation tests
Now, imagine for a second if you will, that they gave that nature chakra expelling stick to Might Guy and he proceeded to break it in half and connect a chain between them.
Night Guy weilding nunchucks taking on Madara
This is an amazing think to thought
Regarding Naruto failing the final exam, I always thought it was a matter of him getting a second and third chance a relatively short time later. So the way I interpreted it, it wasn't a year between each time he failed the exam, but maybe something closer to a month where he was given a little more time to figure it out.
As for Madara being revived, my theory is that with enough chakra a person can bypass time limits on Rinne Rebirth and even restore a body to youth, but the chakra required would be massive. Considering they were gathering the tailed beasts, its possible by utilizing tailed beast chakra or becoming the Juubi's host Nagato might have been able to do it.
The actual biggest plot hole in Naruto is the hashirama cells being used to create white zestu, (we even see a white hashirama coming out of the wall when obito explains the white zetsu) only to be explained that the white zetsu and black zetsu is kagaras creation. Even though Naruto’s chakra used to respond to white zetsu to creat trees because there hashirama cells, we literally see evidence that there hashirama cell, yet later they scrap that entire plot point just to say there kaguyas creations. The same with black zetsu when we literally see madara create him with our own eyes but gets explained a way as kaguyas creation. And if they weren’t hashirama cell, then madara shouldn’t have gained the renigan because that was what was used to create white zetsu as well as give madara the renigan
The plot hole that infuriated me the most by far was Madara breaking the Resurrection Jutsu because he knew the hand signs. Tobirama invented the jutsu, and yet doesn't break the contract from his end when Orochimaru resurrects him during his attack on Konoha. Also, I admit it has been quite a while since I've watched Naruto, is it ever stated when Madara (or Orochimaru for that matter) ever picked up that knowledge?
And idk if you'd call it a plot hole, but the massive contradiction between the messaging of the beginning and rest of the series on destiny bothers me so much. Look at the Naruto vs Neji fight at the Chunin Exams. Neji talks about how your birth defines your role, and your role defines your destiny. Naruto disagrees, and when he wins you're supposed to take that as his worldview winning out. Then Kishimoto spends the rest of the series saying that Naruto is wrong. Every single kid in Naruto's class in Konoha grows up to be just like their parents, including Naruto. In the world of Naruto, who your parents are is literally all that matters when defining your destiny. The lack of consistency frustrates me.
I mean, Naruto's destiny was to kill Sasuke and perpetuate the cycle of Indra and Ashura. He broke that cycle, defying his destiny. The theme of destinies is still at play to the very end
I don't think Kishimoto does enough to justify the view that Naruto is destined to kill Sasuke. IMO the story directly contradicts that. Indra and Ashura is the only major pairing that ends with one killing the the other. Hashirama didn't kill Madara (I guess you could say he did on a technicality since Madara stayed alive by taking some of Hashirama's flesh). They're also paralleled to Jiraiya and Orochimaru, and that didn't happen with them either. The cycle had already been broken at that point.
i believe orochi had reinforced the strenght of the bindings to the seal with Hishi's cells. We all know you can do anything with his cells.
Its true about Naruto and some other characters, but there are still good ones that bring that message. Like Might Guy coming from no special family and becomming the strongest ninja of all time, even tho only for a short time. Or Rock Lee and also Sakura, wich her Parents werent even Shinobi, still she manages through hard training to become one of the strongest shinobi of all time.
Why does that not bother you that hashirama instantely break the edo tensei without even handsigns? Then the REAL theme of naruto is not overcoming your condition but rather is about understanding between one and another hence why the so called " talk no jutsu " is one of naruto's best and most efficient technique since he used it the first time on zabuza. Hence why is has to know pain ( rip jiraya 🙏)by defeating (going through ) the six path of pain to really be to understand the sufering of the world , being able to endure it ( that's what ninjas do ) and overcoming it and become the bridge between people and even bijuus. After all naruto is a story heavely rooted in budhism. Overcoming your Destiny is just a subtheme in naruto and part of his character arc but its not central
I'd like to add onto the Leaf Academy Graduation one. How did Rock Lee ever pass? Naruto says he failed three times because he couldn't perform the Clone Jutsu. It's well established that Lee can't use Ninjutsu or Genjutsu and the Clone Jutsu is ninjutsu. So again, how did Rock Lee ever graduate from the Academy?
He just threw a smoke bomb and got gai to stand next to him on his knees
Probably got a different test
Certain schools in real life give alternative tests for people who have a disability that would prevent them from taking the normal test.
So, probably that.
Or he screamed,'the power of youth!' Until they passed him.
He doesn’t need to do a transformation justu Since his taijustu skills were peak and he was well read and since he didn’t have the ability to do ninjutsu he probably shouldn’t be tested like other kids
He ran fast enough to leave afterimage of himself just like shishui
Another head cannon thing is for the Rinne Rebirth with Madara, I think it worked the way it did because the body he was revived in was his younger body whereas everyone who got revived by Pain got revived in their current body.
I feel like the Kurama helping naruto could also be explained that maybe Kurama just never knew he'd reform if his host died, or thought it'd be easier to try and coerce naruto into relying on Kuramas chakra if he saw how powerful it was allowing him to leak more and more out and eventually be freed
One thing that has always bothered me is that Edo Tensei is supposed to grant ‘infinite chakra’, and yet Tobirama complained that he was only able to make two shadow clones (shouldn’t you be able to make infinite?), and claimed that he couldn’t teleport to Naruto and free him from Madara’s woodstyle because he was “out of chakra” 🤨
Edit: Sorry, it was Edo Tensei Minato who said he was out of chakra because his last flying hirashin drained him of his last reserves. How do you run out of infinite chakra?
I always imagined it to be a pool of chakra that refills itself all the time, but you can't just use infinitely much chakra in one go. Otherwise you could just win by using the simplest jutsu infinitely many times, and that would be stupid.
@@KartonRealista2 That’s true. But then kishimoto really a shouldn’t have called it “infinite chakra”, since if you can run out, it is by definition not infinite. He should’ve called it enhanced chakra recovery or something. I guess that doesn’t sound as cool.
I think it depends how you define "infinite." I'm not sure what word is used in the original Japanese. You can think of it like this: edo tensei also grants you infinite limbs. Not all at once, but if your arm gets destroyed, it will re-grow infinitely. There's no reason to believe Chakra acts any differently. It regenerates once it's gone.
@@BlueBoboDoo100 That’s how chakra normally works though. When it’s used and the reserves are no longer full, it recovers over time. Albeit the speed differs between people. By that logic, couldn’t just normal chakra regeneration be said to be “infinite” too?
That, and limbs don’t normally regenerate. But as edo tensei they do. So the comparison isn’t quite the same.
@@Icezoot yeah i think infinite chakra is a bit of a weird thing since he did run out, i imagine its as was posted a limited pool, but their chakra regeneration might just be buffed, so whereas normally if someone is out of chakra they need to eat drink and get some rest, Edo Tensei's just need to wait a little bit
The other day I was thinking about Pakkun (Kakashi's ninja hound). He has a headband... how did he get it? Did he graduate from regular ninja academy? Did he go to doggy ninja academy? WE NEED TO KNOW
There are also other ninja animals. How did they get one? What makes you different from an ordinary animal and a ninja animal? You could have a ninja dog that talks then there's Kiba's dog who doesn't. Does that mean his dog isn't special? How do you find these dogs. Do they have their own dimensions? When you summon an animal, where are they? Where do they go?
We need answers!
Yo, I never even questioned it! I need to see animal ninja academy now
Imagine if Tenten somehow acquired the anti-sage mode bonk stick and became a pivotal character in the fight against Madara… until for plot reasons the stick gets broken and can’t do that one thing anymore because that’s just how manga writers would handle that sort of scene
24:55 it gets even worse Naruto being an Uzumaki would attract more attention because the other villages massacred the Uzumaki clan because they were afraid of them
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I still think Naruto should have been secretly adopted by the Yamanaka clan instead of made an orphan. I don't think having one more blond kid in their clan would have stood out and they're literally the best choice for finding out what's going on in Naruto's head with Kurama.
This is a very cool idea! But i think it could work out in world and also have some fun narrative potential if he was "adopted" by Jiraiya, since most likely he actually does have some kids around with all his activities.
@@ivello Jiraiya's version of the Baker Street Irregulars would be interesting to explore.
Naruto and Ino having a sibling vibe would have been wholesome as hell.
It always bothered me how all these powerful ninjas were friends with Naruto's dad but still let him be neglected as an orphan. I think that's one of the biggest plot holes in this show.
It's probably due to the political check and balances in the shinobi council. Simply put, this is better explained as: "if Danzo can't get the weapon, then no one can."
The thing about Itachi not killing Danzo is what I was questioning for 5 months now since I finished shippuden. And also that nobody knew who Naruto was is stupid, not only that, but how he lived alone, why Kakashi or Mikoto never visited him, and a lot of other stuff about his childhood. The only explanation I came up with that this way is convinient for the plot which annoys me a lot
He didn’t even need to kill him. Itachi had ample evidence and the ear of the Hokage, as well as the respect of his family. The fact he couldn’t organize anything to work out a situation in which Danzo is exposed and can use his alleged genius to explain how everyone has been manipulated, either speaks to Itachi being mentally handicapped or Kishimoto just not thinking things through.
@@pogo8050 I totally agree that he didn't need to kill Danzo, could have exposed him instead, but Shisui died because of him, (and he is a horrible guy I just wanted him dead sooner). I guess it's both Kishimoto not thinking things through and as a result Itachi being a messed up character. Being a genius and not even a thought about any other way accuring to him is so weird to me
The responsibility of naruto was actually suppose to be more of hiruzens job and yea we can see how he was the worst hokage
@@pogo8050there was no way to organize anything. Watch the show and pay attention while you watch it. The uchiha had a reputation for being evil and were pushed to the edge of the village where they were outcasts. They were also staging a coupe, even if he exposed danzo who would be in his side? Who would help the uchiha not be slaughtered when they’re also planning on slaughtering the village? There was absolutely no plan they could’ve worked out since the reputation of the uchiha was already tainted and on top of planning to take over the village.
@@chefxhyrule242 if I was a member of the ninja CIA, had ample evidence all the circumstances around my murderous family being ostracized was based on the manipulations of one guy. And I also happened to know the ninja president, my first solution isn’t “okay I guess I’m gonna have to murder all my family members to get guarantees for my brother to survive”. Unless the Uchiha are literally too stupid to be reasoned with, im bringing that evidence to them and telling them “I have Hiruzen on the other side of the line, we’re working this out tonight”. It would at least give them some pause. But I mean, maybe Itachi knew his family were that dumb, in which case I say good riddance.
The biggest plothole of the entire series is why hagoromo never cared to go into Madara's mind to tell him that Infinite Tsukuyomi aint a jutsu of bringing peace to the world. Instead it is a jutsu for summoning Kaguya.
Dude literally said a whole ass backstory to naruto and sasuke but never said it to madara 💀💀💀💀💀
I thought itachi wanted to die
Wood style jutsu is easily one of the most wtf powerful jutsu's in the entire series easily top 3 for me. As the story went on wood style was seemingly able to do well......anything the biggest being the tailed beast sealing and even negation. It's so unbelievably versatile and has hacks for literal miles.
I agree tho my personal head cannon is rhats its water earth and sage chakra fusex together
And the other top 2?
@@gustavoneri.2297 crystal release and snake sage
I said it before the video got flagged so I'll say it again: Why was Danzo not executed for trying to kill Hiruzen?
Because Hiruzen was too forgiving, he overlooked it because he figured itd be easier to forgive danzo than find a replacement to run the root. Danzo to him was like Sasuke is to Naruto, so it makes sense that he’d keep giving him second chances out of hope that he would change for the better
We see why. as annoying as it was to have someone like danz, who withholds info and does betray you. hiruzen understood that he had no control over root and the shinobi underworld. so he let danzo live because without him there would be a huge power vacuum that no could really fill at that time.
Filler.
@@Oblivion___ ha, that’s actually really funny. I forgot that episode was filler.
Y'all head cannon ppl are funny
Love your content, I’ve always loved Naruto and I’ve watched thousands of hours worth of it and related content and I’ve never enjoyed someone’s takes and content as much as yours. Please keep it up 👏
Some good evidence for the two types of Kotoamatsukami is that danzo was using izanagi to stall until he could use Shisui’s eye again and why he was so heavily debating on sacking it to izanagi.
Naruto’s parentage being a secret smacks of Kishimoto initially wanting him to be something like Ace from One Piece where his mother was a discreet civilian wife of a famous man, but at some point plans changed and Kushina had to become this ultra badass as well.
I’d actually be interested in seeing you do a deep dive into how and when did the Uzumaki go from just being Naruto’s surname to this incredibly important Ninja Clan. 🤔
Yup i agree
They changed the whole story so much in shippuden that things didn't even make sense anymore lol.
I wouldn’t even consider Rouge an entirely normal civilian given that she’s a member of the D. clan
Also iirc Ace being Roger’s son wasn’t initially the plan and it only became a thing when Oda said to his editor something along the lines of “ya know, it’d be kinda cool if these two were related”, and then ran with that all the way to the bank.
I do get what you’re getting at though and yes it’s aggravating seeing and hearing more and more how the writing of Naruto is held up by duct tape and bubblegum. Even down to the MC’s heritage/lineage
@@ManyTanks1 I'd say that Ace not being Luffy's biological brother is probably planned throughout the whole series. I have 2 reasons.
1. Ace's choose the name, Portgas as his surname.
2. Ace wasn't shown in Post Enies Lobby when the Monkey Family was revealed (Luffy, Garp, Dragon).
Being Roger's son is probably the change that happened.
@@Alexander-2956true, ace was not meant to be Luffys biological brother by the time he made it into the series. Or at the very least was meant to be half bother. His name and his curly hair and freckles were all indications he wasn't a proper brother.
@nchammer23 this would be a good video. Uzamaki-Zero to Uzamaki-Hero
The problem with the deep ocean isn't breathing, it's the pressure. Could Kisame survive an entire ocean of weight pressing on him?
Plus he still has lungs and would get the bends, but I suppose decompression is easier when you have gills
Also could've sent a shark to go look
@@dustinlewis4948 If chakra sharks are susseptible to pressure, they too would have gone poof before reaching bottom.
Defending Naruto's plotholes is like defending whore's virginity.
bro had suigitsu that man is made of water
I mean, yeah probably. Didn't he create a metric crap ton of water. Also there's no info on how deep it is
In my mind, shinobi graduations happen seasonally, rather than yearly, that way they can strengthen their troops in quantity, and work on quality through the jounin sensei. That makes the most sense to me concerning Naruto doing the grad exams three times.
Hey Nick I liked this plot hole video if you make a second one can you talk about how broken the substitution jutsu is please?
Kakashi could use Kamui on himself - he did so while fighting Obito. He Kamuied himself back to the "real world" once. And even if he couldn't use it on himself, he can use it like an inch in front of him and just make it big enough.
Then what's the point of having a close range kamui.
@@andrepayne4349 Well, the close range one lets you slip through things and absorb by touch?
The kakashi ability was in chapter 608 or 609 i think btw
@patrickhenry1249 the long range and short range can both teleport to the kamui dimension, kishimoto might as well just made them the same.
@@andrepayne4349Amateratsu and the fireball jutsu both burn stuff, Kishimoto might as well just made them the same
@@andrepayne4349A knife and arrow both pierce people, Kishimoto might as well just made them the same
I always thought that Itachi's sickness and how he couldve just cured it and delay it so that Sasuke could kill him, was just a way of atonement for him. He killed his family, and every other Uchiha (obviously with Obito's help) but when he got that sickness he couldve not only simply use it as a way to atone for what he had done, for him to suffer and not cure it so that he wouldnt just have simply waited for a way for him to get killed by Sasuke. Maybe it was his way of asking for forgiveness, and although remorse was thrown out the window, the guilt of killing an entire clan and still being one of the ones to live must of weighed heavy on him.
Me too. I mean man did kill every adult and did nothing to save the children while being just a kid but sadly its never really portrayed in such a way that we can be sure thats the answer though because of that its one of the plot holes that annoys me the least, we can make a head canon that makes sense within the universe because while we know he held responsability above all else he could not bring himself to kill his brother so we know he is not some emotionless machine.
I think your onto something
"The guilt of killing an entire clan..."
Which guilt though
I hate it when naruto fandom keeps inventing itachis supposed sorrow and guilt
When in the end he explicitly says that he has " no regrets "
This is a pure copium theory. Itachi never regretted his decision, he just didn't like that he had to do it. His only regret was not telling Sasuke everything from the start, which made him become evil, and even that was likely a retcon since Itachi's plan of having Sasuke not hate the village was poorly planned out.
I don’t get why people think he could of been cured, is it not possible for him to just have an illness that he can’t cure himself from?
I don't think Madara's Rinne rebirth bringing him back to his old body is really an issue. He expected to come back after all the fighting and capturing of the tail beasts were done and probably could manage becoming the ten tail's jinchuriki to manage the infinite tsukiyomi's genjutsus because he had a mixture of Hashirama cells and was directly connected to the tree. And if he isn't needed for the infinite tsukiyomi then he could've had Obito do it since he didn't have an issue with it when he became the jinchuriki and was in his prime's body during it because of the reanimation. Maybe I need to see it again to know why him being brought back was important in his plan in the first place but I hate that part of the story lol
For the second plot hole (Kyubi lending his chakra to Naruto before the 4th Great Ninja War), I remember reading that Kyubi could weaken the eight trigrams seal sooner by providing more chakra (and the weaker the seal got, the more chakra he could provide). By the time of Part 2, Kyubi was confident that the seal was about to break soon (eg. the fight against Orochimaru and the fight against Pain), likely much sooner than it would take to regenerate if Naruto died. Furthermore, Kyubi was bored and putting his strength on display allowed him to flatter his big ego. However, Minato had outsmarted Kyubi through redundancies (sealing some of his and Kushina's chakra so they could restore the seal in an emergency, and entrusting the key to Jiraiya).
I guess that bestowing his chakra to Naruto when he was falling off a cliff and all the times Kyubi held back from hurting Naruto's comrades would still qualify as a plot hole if we consider that Kyubi's only goal was freedom.
For the third plot hole (Madara using kamui), it was seen before Obito became the ten-tails jinchuriki that the long-range kamui could work on the user (Kakashi once used kamui on himself to escape the kamui dimension). Even earlier, Kakashi almost succeeded in using long-range kamui on the Gedo Statue's head (and the Gedo Statue is a part of the ten-tails). My guess is that ten-tails Obito only lost the passive "phasing" effect of the short-range kamui, although that explanation is not stated outright in canon.
Here's another plot hole you could mention if you make a part 2 video: during Haku's fight against Naruto and Sasuke, Haku says that chakra is supposed to be invisible at all times. And yet there are many cases where characters with normal eyes can see the "concentrated chakra" used in certain jutsu (to name a few examples: rasengan, the chakra threads used by Suna's puppeteers, and the Akimichi clan's butterfly mode). Thus, Haku's skepticism is arbitrary.
That's possible for us the watchers to see
@@luiszx1385 If you're talking about my last paragraph (chakra that can be seen without a dojutsu), then I'll concede that in some instances the chakra is highlighted for us watchers (eg. Naruto practicing walking on trees), but the rasengan and butterfly mode are visible since they are noticed by characters without a sharingan or byakugan.
If Naruto using Kyubi Chakra weakened the seal then it'd be beneficial to Kurama to give Naruto Chakra in ways the reinforces his continued use of it. If Naruto accidentally killed his friends he'd be less likely to use it.
@@xdragoonzero0 The explanation would work when counting only the times Naruto was in control (eg. the entirety of Part 1) plus maybe the Part 2 fight against Orochimaru (Kyubi's chakra poisons Sakura during this fight but this could be counted as accidental). But two events contradict that explanation. During the time skip, he caused Naruto to attack Jiraiya during a training session just after Jiraiya had used the key toad to weaken the seal (an event which directly made Naruto and Jiraiya more reluctant to use Kyubi's chakra during Part 2). Later, in Part 2, Kyubi caused no additional casualty (according to Katsuyu) during the fight with Pain even though Kyubi thought he was just about to free himself.
The absence of Kyubi casualty during the Pain fight and the reveal that he wasn't in control of himself during his rampage on Konoha were likely intended to foreshadow Kyubi's redemption. This is the Doylist explanation. But Kyubi attacking Jiraiya (during the time skip) and Kakashi (during the Kazekage rescue mission) yet avoiding harm to Sai and Yamato (during the Sasuke Retrieval arc) or to Hinata (during the Pain arc) is a minor plot inconsistency.
In the case of Itachi, calling it a chakra illness kind of differentiates it from a mere bodily illness. Maybe the fact that it's his chakra using the izanagi to recreate his body that makes it to where the chakra illness never actually goes away.
It’s like blaming people for not curing their AIDS by using their immune system.
@@rishisaaptachaMore like Ninja tuberculosis.
@@sean5364 That's what happens when you're so sociosexual-- I mean use your chakra too much
Good one! I also think that he just wanted his life to end. There was too much burden to carry
I thought Izanagi was like a small time reversal tech. You could rewrite a certain amount of time from where you activate the ability. Madara activates it so he doesn't take damage from the last hit.
Danzo uses it everytime he is hit so he isnt hit.
It could only redo a minute of time or so. From what I recall.
Exactly
ya bro was dead wrong on the Itachi one.
Your argument' is not making sense. If you're saying Izanagi undos the last minute that's incorrect because Madara was already buried when the technique he timed brought him back to life. While yes Izanagi does rewrite reality within a minute, that's what Nick was trying to say. Itachi could've gotten another eye from obito's lab, let the disease eat away at him, rewrite it's effects, and get his other eye back.
@andrerodney454 I don't see how that would be more effective than medicine. In order for izanami to cure a disease, you would have to undo the exact minute you contracted it, which is impossible to know. And if it's genetic or congenital there's no way izanami could help at all. At best it could only help you undo a specific coughing fit.
Plus, it's clear that Itachi wanted Sasuke to take his eyes to get eternal mangekyo. Why else would he tell Sasuke how to obtain it? He explicitly knew how to use izanami and izanagi, but chose not to because ONLY a brother's eyes can become eternal.
I was gonna say the same thing. But yeah.. he was way wrong on that one. And it’s only the first one.
Anyway I am fan of yours videos and ideas and the way you explain things
around 23:00, if i recall he wasn't named a namikaze because his dad not to long ago killed over 1000 people in one battle and with him dead wouldn't his son be the target of all those families which would also fit into the whole revenge and justice cycle the show brings up sometimes
11:45 To be fair. There are TWO scenes in the war arc were Kakashi uses long range Kamui to escape the dimension. He had to crouch or curl his body into a smaller space. Then use his hand to block his vision from any further point. And was able to create the long range portal directly ontop of himself and escape the dimension.(Long range Kamui creates a portal on the target of his vision.) And he only did this after years of using the ability. And the first time he did was clearly a hail marry attempt. Which explains why he never did it before. Using kamui on Minito's rasangan before it fully crushes his chest. stopping the nail pain shot at him before it pierces his eye. Are all clear examples he's able to create a portal close enough to himself. And he did put Killer bee in full transformation state into the dimension and then back out again when they initially fight the first stage of the tentails. So if Kakashi can use long range Kamui to send other people entirely whole into the dimension and he can use it to escape it. There's no reason to assume he can't use it to travel into the dimension. Madara using it with zero prior experience and not using anything to focus his vision directly infront of or ontop of himself however is most definitely a "Because Madara" Plothole.
It's also possible that he didn't know that the kamui dimension even existed until the war arc when obito pulled him into the kamui dimension. It's possible that madara knew about the kamui dimension because he did train obito and it was possible that obito told him about the kamui dimension.
kakashi just didnt know who could kamui himself so he nevre used it that way
@@arjunmenon8572 When Kakashi first describes Kamui, he says that it sends material into an alternate dimension. So he definitely knew about the Kamui dimension by the start of Shippuden.
@@ClashBluelight He wouldn't think a person would survive in it...Though I wonder...wouldn't Deidara's arm be in the Kamui dimension somewhere? Imagine if it was on the ground when Kakashi and Obito fought each other lol.
madara looked at his nose and made a portal there big enough to take his whole body. 👃
We saw how Sakura was treated in the parallel dimension from the Road to Ninja film where her parents were dead while Naruto's were alive, and she got a glimpse of how Naruto lived for years since Kurama attacked Konoha with the help of Obito. And while Naruto was treated like a hero after the Pain arc, he certainly should have been treated better in his childhood like Sakura probably was in that other dimension. The fact that nobody realised that the lone Namikaze clan member and the lone Uzumaki clan member in Konoha, who were living together as a married couple with a child on the way, were the two ninja that Kurama killed because they sacrificed themselves to protect their only child from being killed by Kurama astounds me. Everyone saw what Naruto looked like, what his hair and eye colours were, and should have either figured out that he was Minato's son (seriously, how many adult ninja in Konoha had hair as yellow as Naruto and Minato?) or have seen photos of Minato and Kushina throughout the village.
Another plothole in regards to Naruto himself was how he and Karin had no idea that the other was a member of the Uzumaki clan (Karin had Kushina's red hair, though Naruto didn't know that because he unfortunately was too young to remember Kushina) or that they were both the only living members remaining from that clan. Even Kakashi, who knew Kushina back when she was alive, should have seen Karin's red hair and been reminded of Kushina. Same with Sasuke when Karin first introduced herself to him. He should have gone "Uzumaki? So you are from the same clan as him, then?" while being reminded of Naruto. And even in a flashback to the Forest of Death part of the Chunin exam where Sasuke first met Orochimaru, Karin was also participating in that same Chunin exam and was infatuated by him (much like every girl in the academy because Sasuke was the mysterious bad boy type who no longer had a family and became a lone wolf of sorts). She at least should have also heard the name Naruto Uzumaki once during that part and began questioning if there were other members of her clan out there somewhere (though Naruto inherited more from Minato than Kushina, he was still the child of an Uzumaki which keeps him connected to that clan).
First video I've ever seen of you, I like the content. But I swear the twitchy talking/moment gives me coffee/cocaine vibes 😂
30:06 "beat like some meat on December 1st"💀
A few plot holes that anoy me beside those you already mentioned.
1) Madara knew about a way to release himself from the edu tensi and rescind the contract but Tobirama who created the justsu had no idea about it?
2) The third coffin Orochimaru summoned
3) The fact that Minato was a perfect sage and know one on mount myoboku knew about it.
4) Minato learning to become a perfect jinchuriki while he was sealed in the ripper death seal
- How do you know Tobirama didn't know about it? He never said...Maybe he did but didn't think anyone else knew?
- What about the third coffin? It was empty...it popped up but the fourth wasn't inside so it failed. Or some half summon happened. Either way it failed as it should have.
- That was because he was learning that while inside the reaper death seal....(silly I know, but he wasn't a sage in his actual life time)
- He never was a perfect jinchuriki....he tames the half of the nine tails in him, but he was never a perfect jinchuriki.
It's safe to assume minato already knew sage mode since he already had a contract with a toad. Sometimes in story it's easier to just show you something that overly explain. Those aren't plotholes.
If Jairiya was reanimated, I could see Naruto being happy to see him again and tell him all that happened after his death. Naruto mastered Sage mode, he save the village and got the adoration he so longed for. He also convinced Nagato to change his was and redeem himself, he met both of his parents and mastered the Nine-tails Chakra.
Personally, I think the Tailed Beasts simply reforming sounds simple and painless, but we don't know for certain what they experience during that process. As such, Kurama might have an aversion to allowing himself to die alongside his host even if he knows it's temporary. The alternatives are either that Kurama and the Tailed Beasts, for all their apparent hatred of humanity for sealing them away, sympathize with the majority of their hosts on some level for one reason or another and can't simply allow them to die in good conscience. Another theory is that the transfer of Tailed Beast chakra is not fully within the Tailed Beast's power or their conscious control, and that their Jinchuriki can forcibly tap into that power when in a state of extreme emotional distress or are otherwise in sync with their Tailed Beast's emotions for the transfer to be possible. However, these latter two possibilites hinge on one key factor; does the Jinchuriki actually die if the seal wears down enough to let the Tailed Beast out, or is the death of the Jinchuriki tied, not to the breaking of the seal itself, but the Tailed Beast escaping and not remaining connected to its Jinchuriki or returning to the seal before they expire? Because to our knowledge, Tailed Beasts like Shukaku HAVE gotten loose from their seals without killing their hosts, because Shukaku fully manifests every time his host falls asleep because of the shoddy seal work being used to bind him, yet Gaara lived after this presumably happened several times over the course of his childhood.
To be fair without minatos and kushina chakra he would have gotten out sooner or later
they don't care. bad reason
@@DisplayDefenders That's demonstrably untrue. The Tailed-Beasts can be extremely friendly with their hosts and genuinely care for them. And I also gave potential reasons why the Tailed Beasts wouldn't allow their hosts to die even if they didn't care about them or the consequences their deaths would involve, like reincarnation being extremely painful and/or traumatic for a Tailed Beast or the Tailed Beast not fully being in control of how their chakra mixes with that of their hosts.
So there are no bad reasons(aside from Kishimoto just being a hack of an author...), just preferences to whatever canon-compliant explanation is the most palatable to you.
@@Brutalyte616 Dude, Kurama was literally a psychopath. He wanted rage, and he did not care AT ALL about naruto's feelings. He wanted to get out of the prision. You need to think in the context of the season.
"The alternatives are that Kurama, for all his apparent hatred of humanity for sealing him away, sympathize with his host on some level for one reason or another and can't simply allow him to die in good conscience."
^^ "he does not care. bad reason" was in response to this paragraph. it's false.
@@DisplayDefenders I'm not talking about JUST Kurama though. Or are you somehow implying Kurama is the only Tailed Beast?
I gave a list of reasons as to why the Tailed Beasts would give their chakra to their Jinchuriki even if death had no consequence to them, and compassion and sympathy was only one of the three reasons I gave.
And on that particular topic, let us briefly discuss Kurama's feelings throughout the series for a moment.
Even though Kurama is consumed by hatred and resents Naruto as his prison and jailer, most of that hatred is directed towards people other than Naruto because in his moments of relative calm and lucidity, Kurama recognizes that Naruto himself isn't to blame for their current arrangement and, while Naruto is a convenient outlet for his anger and frustration, Kurama CAN sympathize with Naruto, even if that sympathy can only be expressed by the two both being full of hatred and rage, because Kurama DOESN'T enjoy how Naruto is treated and the things that piss Naruto off piss him off as well, mostly because it validates his hatred of humans in general, but also because he knows the things happening to Naruto are wrong based on his own experiences and the moral philosophy taught to the Tailed Beasts by Hagoromo. Kurama encourages Naruto to get angry and lash out at things because it weakens the seal and brings him closer to freedom and revenge; that much is true, but it's also because, in those moments that Naruto gives in to his own rage, the two are truly on the same wavelength and able to cooperate with one another in their mutual hatred. However twisted that may be, that is STILL sympathy and compassion for another innocent being made to suffer and rage against the injustices of the world, and it lays the groundwork for Kurama's later friendship with Naruto, because Naruto understands and appreciates Kurama's pain more than Mito and Kushina did and helps him work through it.
When Tsunade tells Sakura about Danzo, she says he was part of a faction opposing the third hokage, so i think it would be too soon for him to hokage after the person he was directly opposing. Also Jiraya was thought as a pick for hokage, and it is first when he tells them he doesn't want to be hokage, that he immidietly brings up Tsunade and that he can find her. Danzo may have been in the running for hokage if Jiraya had taken to long though
I think that Kurama didn’t want to let Naruto die because Kurama knows that half his chakra is sealed in the Shinagami and doesn’t know if he would reform due to his other half still existing elsewhere.
Now ur just trying find excuse for bad story telling
I said this when the video was pasted yesterday before being flagged 😊
The gold and silver brothers directly debunk that reasoning though.
Also I would say revenge against both Minato and Kushina might be a reason for him not wanting to let Naruto to die, it would be a far greater form of revenge if he could take over Naruto's body by having his willingly break the sea or using too much of Kurama charkra instead of just just not helping and have him killed by a random enemy.
At that point in the story I would belive he was so filled with hate that he was willing to delay his freedom just so he could give the biggest FU to both Minato and Kushina.
@@reagenlionel How so? What am I missing?
I always assumed Kurama didn't want to die. Whether that is because dying, or he was proud that he hadn't died since he was born and didn't want to break the winning streak. Possessing Naruto gets him out without reappearing disorientated in a random location.
While very solidly in headcanon territory, I can invent an excuse if I were in Kishimoto's shoes: Kurama can't reform because half of him is sealed with Minato in the Death God. If the half of him inside Naruto dies, he stays in limbo until the other half, at least, gets out. As far as Kurama knew, that could be forever.
It’s explained in the anime as the seal weakening as he pours his chakra through it so the more Naruto relied on his chakra the easier it would be for him to break the seal.
@@AtelierGod Yes, but if he doesn't help Naruto in the moments where they'd die, Kurama should reform and be free in a relatively short time.
People are wondering why help Naruto when Kurama's options were help the kid and play the long con game of weakening the seal or let Naruto die and reform in a few years.
@@nousername191 do we know the reform time? If not maybe dying would be an even longer long game than being breaking the seal.
@@AtelierGod Fair point. It's hard to pin down when the 4th Mizukage died.
I think why Kurama doesn't wanna die with Naruto and him saying it would be troublesome could be tied to how the Tailed Beasts are said to be weaker in intelligence without a human host.
Or maybe that being reborn leaves them in such a primal state without higher intelligence they have to regain first.
Before the concept of tailed beasts were written its likely reincarnation was not on the table and they could actually die, or their return was not certain as the archetype they had back then were either spirits or demons. Remember when Kurama was kind of scared when Kabuto almost killed Naruto and the inside world became dark?
I think theres a better explanation for the Kurama chakra thing. We know from later on that half of Kurama was also sealed inside Minato, perhaps he wouldn't be able to reform, simply because the part of him in Naruto is not his completed form.
I think the point of Pa's stick wasn't that the stick was special, it was that when your meditating and your eyes are closed, you are at peace and not focusing on your body, so you wouldn't notice it going poorly, so he would smack you and the pain is what breaks your focus and you move around due to the pain, resulting in the stopping of you absorbing nature energy and being saved.
The problem with that idea is that if you start transforming, it means you already have enough nature energy to fully transform into stone, so something would still hav to remove it.
@@jamtone4492 By moving it leaves the body, hence why there's a time limit when Naruto uses it. It lasts for 5 minutes then has been expelled from his body.
@@jamtone4492only true when you have mastered it aka becoming a sage, while naruto at that stage hasn't mastered it, merely disturbing his concentration the natural chakra would turn him into stone.
Who else saw him accidentally upload this video yesterday
Not accidental, it got age restricted so he took it down
@@xdetheralwhy did it get restricted?
Me
The thumbnail was better yesterday tbh
I watched the entire video yesterday
chakra natures weaknesses mattering only that much how it did in the sasuke vs deidara fight for plot armor is one of the things that never sat right with me
I remember back in the day people were arguing with me on Narutoforums about Naruto being Minato's son. It was clear as day to me. People claimed it may be his uncle. It was too many hints and the timing of it all. The villagers had a case of PIS (plot induced stupidity).
For Sasuke Surving Deidara's C0, the main problem is the time frame.
Sasuke is 10-20 feet away from the C0 and summoned Manda, used genjutsu, jumped into his mouth, and then used reverse summoning jutsu all before he was disintegrated by a bomb the size of an atomic bomb that explodes at thousands of MPH minimum.
If Sasuke already had something prepared in advanced, then it wouldnt be a plot hole, but he doesn’t start doing anything until AFTER the bomb already explodes.
@funpox5062 Most people agree that Sasuke had little to no chakra, but because only Deidara said Sasuke was low on chakra and not Sasuke himself, some people like to use that as a counter argument to validate Sasuke having chakra.
@@andrepayne4349sasuke was unable to even stand properly after that so yeah low chakra
@yuugenr7549 I agree. he couldn't even maintain the sharingan either, yet I've debated biased people who actually try and argue against it.
Also managed to get his sword back somehow
This is such a minor thing that I don’t get why it bothers anyone, explosions move slowly for dramatic effect all the time in all media lol
I live for these videos! Keep em comin nick!
I'll take a swing at the plot holes and see what happens
1.For the Izanagi thing, I think Itachi didn't use it to prolong his life because he wanted Sasuke to believe he was at full strength. If Sasuke showed up and Itachi only had 1 eye, to Sasuke it would have been fighting with a handicap. On top of that, I believe that Itachi knew that after he died his eyes would likely end up being implanted into Sasuke, and because only the activation of the Rinnegan can reverse the damage to the eye by Izanagi, he would have only had 1 eye to give Sasuke instead of 2.
2. I think there is a reason for why Kurama did not allow Naruto to just die, and that reason is there is likely a cost to the tailed beast. It might be that whenever a tailed beast dies with their host, they lose a portion of their total chakra capacity. Kurama is already at half his maximum capacity thanks to Minato ripping half of it out of him, which in turn made him smaller. So maybe Kurama does not want his total chakra reduced further, likely because of his personal standing among the other tailed beasts. This is only a theory though that there is likely some form of cost to the tailed beast being revived through their host's death.
3 & 4. I've got nothing about the Kamui thing.
5. Nobody really thought of using it, especially because they did not know they would be coming up against nature chakra. I don't believe the stick would have done much vs 10 Tails, and while it could work vs Madara, they would have to strike Madara with it first. Madara being the enemy that he is, he likely would turn the stick around and beat tf out of Naruto with it (lowering or removing his own nature energy) or straight up destroyed the stick. It's not like that stick is a battle grade weapon after all, it's a stick. Plus, the Hashirama attachment can just constantly re-absorb more nature chakra.
6. I do not believe Donzo was being allowed to. The elders at the time likely would not have backed Donzo knowing the kind of man he was, but the Hyuga thing is also a good reasoning.
7. Yeah I got nothing for the Renne-Rebirth thing.
8. Black and White Zetsu were pulling the strings on things. So even if Madara did not end up reviving, Black Zetsu would have just moved on and made another new plan to revive Kaguya. And it's likely that Zetsu was watching over both Obito and Nagato to push the plan along, and would have ended up manipulating them to the point of Madara's revival knowing that Madara would have won in the end with how powerful he was.
9. I've got nothing about Naruto being the same age as everyone else.
10. I've got nothing about why they hid Naruto's identity.
11. I've got nothing about why he did not kill Donzo except knowing that Donzo was the head of Root, which helped Konoha from the shadows. So destroying Root at the time would have caused major issues, on top of losing the entirity of the Uchiha clan in stopping the revolt.
12. Yeah it's likely them loosing their seals could be why he lost his healing ability.
13. It's possible that the reason Obito left Naruto alone for so long is so his organization could build up. He went after Kurama at the time because of how easy the seal would have been to break (as he did) and use his Sharingan to control Kurama like how Madara did. His plan at the time was likely to take Kurama and use him to get his hands on the other Tailed beasts, but because Kurama was sealed into Naruto with a sealing Jutsu that very few knew much about because it was custom made by Minato himself, he figured it would be fine to just come back for him later. Plus he had to recover for getting his ass beat so hard and likely learn to refine his fighting style to take on tougher opponents in the future.
14. Yeah Sasuke surviving the explosion was a bit of an ass pull.
15. It's possible the rain washed away the genetic material from the blood. The arm likely sank in the water, and later it's possible Amado could have figured out a ninja tool to reach Jiraiya's bones to use as genetic material to clone him. But would not have been genetic material available to Kabuto at that point in time to revive Jiraiya for the war.
On the subject of Kurama reforming after Naruto's death is maybe since Kurama wasn't whole he couldn't reform. Or that half would join his other half in the reaper's seal
Wasn’t Manda reverse summoned after Sasuke climbed in? I always figured that, the reason they both weren’t obliterated by Deidara’s last explosion was that they were only caught up in a bit of it before Sasuke could barely manage to unsummon Manda at the last second. Then, there was the fakeout of Karin saying that she could no longer sense Sasuke’s chakra, when, in reality, he was just somewhere far away. From here, Jugo summons them back to their location, which I think was what was leftover from the battle.
I knew some of these and never considered a few, but holy shit this is just so glaring I feel like I lost IQ points by how bad these are in hindsight.
That being said I would love to see your take on not only how to fix these, but do it in a way that certain events i.e. the Uchiha bite it and the war happens, still happen.
Right after hearing the 4th sealed the 9 tails into a baby I had an inkling it must have been his child. When a story starts with a random orphan you just know the orphan is NEVER random.
Edit: What is random though is both Jiraya and 3rd agreeing to take care of him, yet he lives alone at the ripe age of 11.
For plot hole #7, can’t we say that the reason Madara would come back in a good body was because he’d have the rhinnegan later after Obito did Rhinne rebirth?
It’d be exactly like Nagato did when he siphoned off killer bee’s chakra during the war arc to put him back in his prime.
Just a thought
I think Kurama was just bored in most cases and just helped Naruto for entertainment. If I can recall as long as Naruto knew he existed and could’ve asked him for his Chakra willingly or not,the seal would’ve weaken in time anyway as he got older. Remember when he confronted Nagato and his eyes were still active because of Kurama being annoyed by Nagato’s ideations lol.
Another thing is that kurama doesnt like people and if he was free people would constantly be bothering him.
Nick I have MAD RESPECT for U it takes u hours to create these videos thank u❤
Didn’t he upload the same video yesterday?
@@Jopriisyummy he said it got flagged so he re-uploaded it
@@dmaple22 oh okay thanks
I think there might be 2 reasons why Madara was brought back in his prime. 1: I think a reason why someone would be brought back in their prime is if their original body had decomposed already. we saw in the pain attack that most if not all the people who died still had their body intact which is why their spirits just returned to them. Madara, by the time the war arc rolled around, his body would just be a pile of bones. so maybe he was brought back in his prime because the closest thing he had to a body was his reanimated body which we know that you can bring whoever you want back in whatever form you want. and since Kabuto had reanimated Madara in the form of his prime, it could make sense why he was brought back in his prim. it could also explain why when Madara was getting revived, all that happened was that his reanimated body started steaming and lost all the paper looking layers that you can see on regular reanimations. 2: I think another way Madara could've been brought back in his prime is through the use of the abilities of the king of hell. we saw in the pain fight that when any of the other paths of pain would get heavily damaged, the king of hell could bring them back in their best condition aka, their prime. so its plausible that black zetsu could have influenced the was Madara was brought back combining the ability of the king of hell with the renne rebirth to bring Madara back in his prime. although the only fault to this theory is that the king of hell wasn't used to bring Madara back in canon. then again the king of hell could just be an embodiment of the abilities and not actually required to use them.
You where slightly off about naruto still having the six paths Chakra, the Chakra itself is anchored to him by the mark on his palm just like sasuke, so when they blow eachothers hands off in the valley of the end they lose access to it (except sasuke gets to keep the rinni-sharingan because kishimoto definitly doesn't have favorites)
Small correction, after sealing kaguya the sun and moon seals were taken back by hagoromo, they weren't destroyed during the valley of the end fight
Naruto never had the sun seal blown off of him. It returned to Hagoromo after they sealed kaguya. That's why Hagoromo at first said he couldn't do much but after receiving the seals back on his hands and his Chakra returned he was able to teleport all those people to his location.
Thank you I was looking for this
Yep, i was coming to say that as well. The anime even makes a point of showing closeups on their hands
At least some people pay attention
I have a headcannon for why/how Jiraiya wasn't reincarnated.
He learned a sealing jutsu from Minato, Kushina, and/or Mito for sealing his soul preemptively, expecting to die fighting Pain and prevent himself from being revived.
As for why Minato or Hiruzen never did this, it's because they died unexpectedly. And this is a high level sealing jutsu not many people can perform.
But it would explain why there were no Uzumakis revived despite their sealing jutsus being some of the strongest.
it’s explained why he wasn’t revived by kabuto…. His body was too deep underwater to retreave and in that same chapter obito said he’s not giving kabuto danzos body because he didn’t want Shisui getting revived bc he would have too much power
@@ItzShiki_ I know the canon reason is Jiraiya was too deep underwater, but it still feels like a cop-out. Like his blood was all over the battlefield after his fight with Pain.
@@iRazenrak u forget that it rains a lot in the village lol and the only place he spilt blood was in the water and when nagato asura path injured his arm. The place was destroyed by tendo pain and asura pain. The blood ofc will disappear in the water and the rain will just wash it away
This video is full of things that have explanations and rational answers, but the hypothetical maybes kill it.
On Madara's Resurrection plan: I think it was Black Zetsu's plan entirely. Based on how Black Zetsu talks about his part in Shinobi history, I firmly believe that he has some kind of Kotoamatsukami-like ability to inception ideas into people's minds without leaving a trace or a breakable Genjutsu, so long as you have hatred in your heart. So I think most of what Madara, Obito, Nagato, and Kabuto in the war arc do is actually Black Zetsu's plans.
But why did he needlessly unplug himself and make a super convoluted revival plan? Because Black Zetsu fucked up. When Madara was killed by Hashirama, Black Zetsu hid himself inside Madara's corpse, presumably because he knew that Madara had successfully taken a bite of Hashirama and therefore was Black Zetsu's best chance to produce a Rinnegan in over 2000 years, so he wanted to keep a close eye on that.
And Madara did indeed create his Rinnegan at the end of his natural lifetime, which makes the decades Black Zetsu spent in hiding worth it, but then he realized he's trapped inside the body of someone who doesn't actually know he exists. So he has to come up with a plan reasonable enough to release himself from Madara's body without raising suspicion in Madara that he was an outside force.
That plan was Madara's revival plan. It makes enough sense that Madara would go through with it for the chance to reclaim his younger body, but more importantly it would cause Madara to "create" Black Zetsu as a "manifestation of his will" for Obito and Nagato to draw from. This not only freed Black Zetsu from hiding within Madara, but also cemented him in the minds of the Akatsuki's leadership as an extension of Madara, meaning NONE OF THEM would ever question his true loyalties and he could exist in the open as a member of the Akatsuki without drawing suspicion.
Black Zetsu NEVER cared about Madara. He only ever cared about creating the conditions necessary for Kaguya's return, and Madara was never an essential piece of that plan, only his Rinnegan were. Creating the situation were Madara was dead but his Rinnegan still existed gave Black Zetsu freer reign to diversify his approach to making the Eye of the Moon plan happen, and the only reason he probably manipulated Kabuto into Edo Tensei-ing Madara back in a younger body was he wanted a backup in case Obito got Talk-no-Jutsu'd, which he did, and so all the pieces were in place for Black Zetsu to spring in and bring Madara back as the vessel for Kaguya.
Tl;dr Unfortunately, we gotta realize that Madara wasn't the actual mastermind of the Eye of the Moon plan; it was Black Zetsu. So all of the convoluted plots that crop up have to be looked at as if Black Zetsu was the one planning them, not Madara, Madara's Resurrection plan included.
You didn't even have to say all that. People think it was Madara cause that's all they cared to think about. Madara thought it was his plan and black zetsu after being alive for so long was definitely gonna make it happen some way or the other
loved the way you explained it and honestly I really think this is how it went down
Thank you. My boy who made this video didn't do enough research
Even the part of creating something that is the "manifestation of your will" is so weird and no one in the show ever did anything similar. You can argue it's the yin-yang release similar to the creation of the tailed beast, but it's such an ass pull ability. "I am barely alive hanging to the Gedo Mazo, but I can use a technique that the peak sage of six paths used to create life"
I know Madara didn't actually use it, but he could not simply be that dumb to not notice right?
I think Kurama helping Naruto would be because reforming probably isn't easy and possibly takes a long time. It might take Kurama decades to reform, plus by helping Naruto he would be loosening the seal. He weighed his options and decided helping Naruto would be faster
Gr8 vid. P2 when?
@NCHammer23 You mentioned Kakasi couldn't go in and out of the Kamui dimension, but since I'm rewatching it, Kakashi is able to go in and out of the Kamui Dimension, it's around episode 374 or slightly earlier
This a reupload? Still gonna rewatch it just asking
you read my mind lmao
also the toad stage stick expelling chakra thing. becoming a sage is really rare in naruto. naruto was the only known alive sage in the series at the time of the pain. it would make way less sense that the one time he fights someone with sage pwoers which was madara to think about a training stick for expelling chakra.
How I always thought about madara using Kamui was that he chose a spot to go to Kamui but because he's so fast he got to the portal and got sucked in that way. As people have been able to dodge it so maybe if you ran at it when your not its target you can also go to the Kamui Dimension. But it not something you'd usally want to try as it most lickly to go wrong.
What? That made no sense
Jiraiya is just a very badass and outstanding person, which he has often said about himself.
He made the qin-gon jinn in a way.
Jiraiya was a Sage and may have found a way to bind his soul to heaven or to prevent his soul from ever being abused or manipulated in any way. that he can be completely free and independent in life afterwards. He didn't want to have any shackles in life and after his life too.
I always imagine the opening with Jiraiya sitting at a table on the green meadow and writing a book. Maybe this is his heaven and he has made sure that no one can take him away from it. Jiraiya also knew about Edo Tensai very well and may have been looking for a way to ensure that he could never come back as a zombie to cause harm. especially not against his village and friends. especially since he knew who can use eo Tensai and also likes to use it. his ex-friend who wants to harm Konoha. and since Hiruzen died and was generally too old and Jiraiya was simply too strong and would be too much of a threat to Konoha, if he were used it would be to attack. He has found a way that this can never happen.
Izanagi can pretty easily be explained as not being able to rewrite things up to a certain point. Like if something happened X Years Ago, you can’t Izanagi it away. Or more likely it only works during the period the jutsu is cast.
Izanagi is genjutsu as said by karin, she said real danzo is there which means it's not gonna work
I always thought it's more about changing causality rather than reality. Like you can rewrite how you dodged therefore you didn't get hit, but you couldn't rewrite something that "just happens". Like if you die by being crushed by Susanoo you can just say "No I dodged before you grabbed me actually" and thus you weren't actually hit. But a disease just happens, you can't dodge it or anything. So you can't just say that you didn't get it because there's no logical way of causality to make it so.
@@EskChan19 it's genjutsu bro
@@EskChan19That makes sense. And even then, Itachi wanted to make sure his eyes got to Sasuke. Using Izanagi would put a dent into that plan (assuming Izanagi cannot create more sharingan eyes)
I always thought of Izanagi more of a way to rewrite causality ratherthan complete reality. Something like you can change "I didn't dodge" to "I dodged left" and therefore the attack didn't hit you. But since illnesses are a natural cause I don't think you could just say "Oh no I didn't get that sickness actually"
Also Itachi was planning to die to Sasuke to begin with, he never had the intention to survive so I don't think it's a plothole that he didn't seek a permanent cure to his disease, when he never cared to survive it anyway. His goal in life was to survive until Sasuke could kill him, thereby redeeming the Uchiha clan. So seeking a way to permanently survive when you are planning to die would make no sense honestly.
But yeah everything around Madara was pretty much bullshit. Kishimoto just wanted to make someone super broken, rules of the world be damned. Also one thing you missed that I kinda HATED, even though I guess it's not TECHNICALLY a plothole is that pretty much ALL of Nejis arc and Narutos interaction with Neji was "Fate doesn't matter, you make your own destiny", just for the finale of the show to reveal that Naruto and Sasuke have been the chosen ones all along and it was always their destiny to fight and seal Kaguya and then fight again. I thought that was really cheap and devalued Neji as a character immensely.
I don’t see why it isn’t possible that Itachi simply had an illness which wasn’t curable
You sound a lot like Ryan Reynolds haha I hope you make a part two bro, love your videos.
Plz do a part 2
With Itachi not killing Danzo, I could easily forgive it for his age, were it not for ALL of the times his genius was specifically remarked upon by how skilled and brilliant he was as a child. I am generally against using "did this crazy feat while super young" as a primary proxy for genius intellect because it fails to acknowledge social learning and maturity and experience needs for a lot of things, BUT, if you're going to make Itachi a brilliant leader and tactical genius in Anbu as preteen, you can't ALSO justify him being easily manipulated because he was a child.
I think the plot hole around the Uchiha's is bull. The Uzumaki's were viewed so dangerous that they were basically nuked but you find Uzumaki's everywhere just not in name. On the other hand everything Uchiha was wiped out? I could give it a pass on the ninjas because they keep records but there were a lot of civilians and they somehow took out every Uchiha in the world other than the main characters in the show.
They could literally have been to a brothel during a mission and made a random prostitute pregnant with a sharingan baby...
Sasuke was saved by itachi so why would he die
The Uzumakis mixed with everyone, but the Uchiha didn’t mix as much and this is explained in the story
I might have an Explanation for Madara and the Komawi. Perhaps him being a sage, after snagging it from Hashirama, was able to use it because of it being mainly senjutsu chakra
And Obito wasn't able to use it because he wasn't as accustomed to dealing with senjutsu chakra. Especially when it's That much of it
In regards to Itachi using the Izanagi, I think there are multiple reasons he didn't heal himself, the major one being that he wanted to die, the only reason he lived for so long was because of Sasuke and after Sasuke got his revenge he wouldn't have any reason to stay alive since he wasn't planning on telling him the truth about the massacre. The other reason he didn't do it probably has to do with Tobi/Obito, I don't think Itachi was aware of the stache of Sharingan eyes and even if he was 1.) he wouldn't want to be as weakened as he would've been after implanting the eyes as Tobi or someone else might take advantage of that and 2.) I am not personally aware of if he'd get a Mangekyo from the implanted eye since he'd get it as a Sharingan and if it didn't transform then he'd be in quite a lot of trouble. This is mostly headcannon but I'm pretty sure it makes sense.