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- Naruto is often criticized for having "weak villains" that compromise on their ideals in the end, but I feel like this complaint
often displays a lack of understanding in regards to the kind of story Naruto was trying to tell. In this video, I discuss the themes of Naruto and why "Talk no Jutsu" was actually a stroke of genius.
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Confrontment
Grief and Sorrow
Hinata vs Neji
Demon
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Sneaking Nightmare
Walking on the Path of Hatred
Strangeness
Departure to the Front Lines
Setting Sun
Mission
The Crying God
Loneliness
State of Advantage
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The Rain Stopped
Hidan
Hurricane Suite
Many Nights
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0:00 Introduction
1:02 Haku and Zabuza
4:50 Naruto vs Neji
7:20 Naruto vs Gaara
11:26 Naruto vs Sasuke
14:20 Lady Chiyo
16:58 Kakuzu
20:53 Naruto vs Pain
29:06 Naruto vs Sasuke Part 2
33:18 Naruto vs Obito - บันเทิง
Did I just get Talk no Jutsu’d on Talk no Jutsu?
Yes. Yes we all did.
It's really a gen jutsu,
I-
This is literally nothing it’s cause he’s the main character and it’s just how the show is
SO META
*Defending Talk no Jutsu using Talk no Jutsu*
do you want me to punch your face or talk to you?
@@sergelucca635 your punch probably wouldn't hurt so I'll choose that
gapple * the hell happened in this comment while I was gone for a year?
I mean, you gotta look at the hipocrisy of naruto-fans-gone-haters.
They forgot what brought them in the first place, leading them to later hate Naruto. And this video brings it up.
It really is a talk no jutsu.
“Using the stones to destroy the stones”
Naruto: falls asleep in woods
Haku: I’m about to start this mans whole career
Damn, this is a whole new way to use it, lol
Haku Talk no Jutsu'd Naruto.
Huh.
underrated lol
Underrated as heck
Im about to start this man's whole ideology
Most effective jutsu in the history of shinobi: *saying “I too have experienced pain”*
It's always like this, lol I am not against this concept, but when the author repeats the same dialogue structure over and over again, he is basically insulting the intelligence of his audience. If you don't know how to write dialogues, then don't use this every time to solve conflicts ffs
MY PAIN IS GREATER THAN YOURS!!! *insert pain derp face meme*
OH NO HERE IT COMES- *the swing*
@@Vanessa-rl5qy tururu 🎶
@@RRRRRRRRR33 Spoilers for Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood, but Envy here is a perfect representation of the "realistic" audience who cannot accept Sasuke, Obito, Pain, Orochimaru and maybe some others being forgiven for their sins (by "just talking") - th-cam.com/video/-HwPhoIHK-Y/w-d-xo.html
Proof that Haku was the most important character to the whole series and plot
Trash Daddy facts
Trash Daddy You know. BESIDES Naruto, Minato and even Obito
Cough Iruka cough
@@Matt-vh2ci coughHiruzen Sarutobicough
You misspelled "Iruka"
It may not be flashy, but talking it out is actually core to Japanese martial arts. The founder of my Jujitsu dojo always said you haven't truly defeated your enemy until you've made them your ally.
Reminds me when Mr Dorian suddenly become retarded because he got talk no jutsu by Ritsu when the guy said "you've never won a battle" Pretty fascinating about Baki fights isn't it?
Damn Vegeta flashes to mind 😂
not just japanese. I learned shaolin kung fu. My teacher said similar. Avoid conflict, but stand your ground when necessary. I remember there was one situation that had gotten out of hand. My trainer wasn´t mad at me for using my fists. He was mad at me for not even trying to talk to the guy i knocked out. it was an extreme situation. my girlfriend was severely ill. her bones were weak as shit. broke her arm with a hug once. and that guy threatened t obeat the living shit out of he.r there was no debate whether a single punch would kill he.r it totally would. Word against word so the headmaster was worthless. Meaning i had to deal with the situation. And i took violence. My trainer was not happy. Absolutely not. I never did more push ups in my life than that evening. It would have been okay for my teacher if i tried to talk to him. not threaten him, talk to him. Well a threat would have been after talking to him and then using force, but the first step should have been "talk to him" and Thomas did not let anything slide along the lines of "there´s no use talking to this guy anyway". I didn´t try i couldn´t know. And he was adamant about this in every situation unless the other party threw a punch first. and even then: as much force as necessary to protect ourselves. That could mean fatal force if we couldn´t save ourselves in any other way, but if we can restrain our attacker with easy and we break every bone in his body, we´re out. The best fights are the ones not fought.
Or you can end them, that works too.
Then since being ennemies and being allies are reflective relations, doesn't that also mean that you also truly lost when you become allies....
Villain: I destroy world
Naruto: “Flute theme”
Villain: Oh shoot nvm
Why did you all give me Reddit gold it’s not that funny
Exactly. Everytime that Flute Theme come up, i was like "Oh shit, here we go again"
Here it comes... The swing
Villain: Oh boy here we go again.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
what is reddit gold?
"Your words cut deeper than any blade kid" -Zabuza Momochi
naruto is a shi.tshow with basic dialogs and to change ret'arded villains who destroy villages for miner reasons and then some du.mb kid who doesnt study with zero knowledge changed their minds by giving basic logic talk even after meeting hundreds of mature ppl and gets shi'tton of plot armour and asspulls from his bf kishimoto with no explanation and dudes doesnt even train for his modes and he's from a elite clan from da start has a plot device inside of him and gets plot armor from random ghosts and side characters ar treated as trash no spotlight for them and ppl die for no reason and they make that sh!t emotional crap kishimoto loves dic.kriding naruho'e and dude cant even create shadow clone from beginning how dafuq was he able to create multiple clones just by seeing the scroll for a seconds this anime belongs in da dum.ps
naruto is a boring flat character and who was just simping over sakura and screaming the shi.tout of his rivals name the whole show
- people who watch more anime besides naruto
@@andrewdasilva7786 wha.t is w.rong wi.th u?
@@andrewdasilva7786 Honestly, I don't understand you. Naruto is one of the greatest for sure and you just full of hatred for no reason. You don't like that naruto is kinda dumb? Umm, Kishimoto didn't like very smart characters and anyway, why? If a character is not smart enough to your vague definitions, does it mean he's bad? Not good enough? And.. emotional crap? What do you want from this anime, to be a dry piece of I-dunno-what? And this point about clones? Yeah, Kishimoto did say that he shouldn't've added such a powerful thing at the begining of the anime, but then what? Truly, not very thought out, but try and create a story with such a scale without flaws, I would've looked into that.
He's not boring, he's a persona, he's got his story and that's the way he is. He was simping for quite a long time, but as any person he changes and he changed by the end, though not completely. Naruto remained the same person, persued his goals til the end. And what is wrong with screaming his rivals' names?.. He is a child after all, something like 14 in the first season and 17 in the second.
Honestly, this is just your opining, surely fueled very distinctively by hatred and stuff. You're just mean.
What anime do you really watch? How a person like U can really appreciate any other piece of art if you can't simply appreciate such a vast anime like naruto. It may not appeal to you, that's ok, but what's the reason for so much shouting and cursing for something you don't even care?
Millions of people do care--so think about it before hating something, especially if you can't see, can't comprehend why people love it.
You can say that i'm just a blind fan of this anime, and yes, you'd be right, in a way. Good ppl are able to appreciate and see, and that's all. I appreciate any piece of work even if i don't like it.. Have some respect, Naruto is not that bad.
And the main question is: what do you appreciate?
@@andrewdasilva7786 All you wrote is nonsense.. becuase Naruto is fiction.. and every fiction is different from our normal world.. it's a fiction world so the rules there is dif from the real world.. You think you're soo smart but your just showing how shallow your brain is
“You have to wipe your own ass”
-Jason Stathem
Honestly if talk no jutsu wasn't a thing people would just say Naruto is just your typical fighting anime/manga
Correct I think the overlaying emotional aspect of naruto was what set it apart and made it one of the best big three to date I mean hell my hero is another one it's not just action you get very emotional speeches and scenes that add real depth and character development
@@TrojanPiece well in the fight with kakuzu not a lot of people liked it because it wasn't interesting because there was no emotional moment or not a lot
@@strawberrycake3474 again, variety, they could find a mid ground
TrojanPiece "some variety"
This is as vapid as asking for variety because *gasp* a battle series always does battles! You're acting under shallow, surface-level thinking.
Some people are saying that, though.
Can't wait for the 90 minute video on Sexy Jutsu.
Kato ^This
Lotion ready
Kato he sounds like onision
Kato but neji was correct to say it to naruto because hes asura. While neji surpassed hinata but she wasnt done growing who knew who would win in shippuden. Hinata is strong as fuck now.
Kato sasuke is also right detachment is of eastern asian culture. You Keeping attachments is an american thing.
I love how Haku had more importance in one episode than Tenten in the whole Naruto franchise
💀💀💀
Fucking tenten bro
Tenten is so thoroughly forgotten and ignored that there aren't even any videos talking about how she was forgotten and ignored, lmao
And people have the audacity to call Sakura useless 🙄
@@mikeexitsjesus Christ 😂
This is how a fighting anime teaches you violence isn't the answer its genius
*glares at TLOU2*
@@instantregret7858 last of us 2 is one of the most brilliant games ever made.
@@everettenjeze6276 debateble
@@everettenjeze6276 it has major contradictions between the message and the gameplay and a predetermined ending not a chosen one doesnt help
@@zarqornd6881 we are not controlling ellies action. We are simply watching her make those decesions. We dont get to make the choice because its not about the player its about ellie, abby, and all the characters in the game. We are simply there for the ride. It feels so real because we can understand why people make these crazy choices. And most of the time it takes the last minute for us to realize if this is truly the right thing to do. It happens everyday in our own world. People be doin stupid things everyday and usually back out at the last minute. The gameplay is the best shit ever but the story is on a nother level. The world was bot ready for this game.
Evil Person: "HaHa I am evil and I will take over and or destroy the world"
Naruto: "No"
Evil Person: "Oh. Ok"
Lmao that's like a Teen planning to go out late at night but were forbid
Teen: Im'a go and Bag my girl
Mom:No
Teen: Oh, Ok
James Cadet you tried
@@lzi9452 nah but someone else I know did
@@jamescadet4450 you tried to be funny
@@lzi9452 you can say that
Literally any evil character in Naruto
Naruto: I’m about to end this mans whole career
Lil Lol **Switch
Omfg thats so true😂
Madara: Bet.
Nergana madara *explodes*
Orochimaru is still quite amoral though, he's not good or evil and never was. Naruto never convinced him, nor did Sasuke really, at the end of the anime he's still experimenting and testing for his own desires. Naruto can convince evil characters, but not all "villains".
Villain: *kills people*
Naruto: “I didn’t have parents.”
Villain: “Understandable, have a great day.”
@@ummerfarooq5383 ?
@@ummerfarooq5383 then why are here then lol
@@ummerfarooq5383 it is a joke sir lmao
@@user-jg6vw5ft6m low level criminals have a soft spot for orphaned animals. It's the real high level criminals who eat orphans.
Naruto is terrible
I mean lowkey, if people just learned to communicate irl life would be less complicated.
So maybe TalkNoJutso isn't that crazy of an idea.
It's not like that's the whole message of the show or anything
Here listen this is my legendary talk no jitsu .naruto is a shi.tshow with basic dialogs and to change ret'arded villains who destroy villages for miner reasons and then some du.mb kid who doesnt study with zero knowledge changed their minds by giving basic logic talk villains even after meeting hundreds of mature ppl and naruto gets shi'tton of plot armour and asspulls from his bf kishimoto with no explanation and dudes doesnt even train for his modes and he's from a elite clan from da start has a plot device inside of him and gets plot armor from random ghosts and side characters ar treated as trash no spotlight for them and ppl die for no reason and they make that sh!t emotional crap kishimoto loves dic.kriding naruho'e and dude cant even create shadow clone from beginning how dafuq was he able to create multiple clones just by seeing the scroll for a seconds this anime belongs in da dum.ps
naruto is a boring flat character whos just being depressed all the time for no reason and keeps thinking about his past and the swing instead of moving forward and who was just simping over sakura the whole series and screaming the shi.tout of his rivals name the whole show
Hunter x Hunter is a better show easily
@@andrewdasilva7786 if you have to devalue a show for the show you like to be or sound relevant, I’m sorry, but you have no respect for the show you like.
To be truly successful, you have to surpass someone, not bring them down with you. But in this case, you bring the show down. Fix your argument. I respect those who likes Hunter x Hunter.
@@qirinezra432 Yeah that’s the one thing I hate the most that anime fans like to do. Bring down other anime to prop up the one they like.
@@andrewdasilva7786 You didn’t even say why hunter hunter is better. You just trashed the Naruto series.
character: is evil
naruto: hokage dattebayo
character: wow so deep
Gtfo bitch
LLLOOOOLLLL
Lmao
Hotel trivago
Don’t forget “I too have experienced pain”
Kakuzu: You used me... FOR CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT?!
Guys with five hearts finish last!
Kishimoto: YOU DAMN RIGHT I DID
Am I the only one who gets the reference?...
@@Gemnist98 I don't 😅
@@luiseduardoperezvilchis3698 It's a SpongeBob reference; in one episode SpongeBob tells Plankton "You used me - FOR LAND DEVELOPMENT!"
I love how Pain was the only one who actually made Naruto question reality, then had to actually beat Nagato's Diva path in order to get to him.
Evil character exists:
Naruto: hokage dattebayo
Evil character: oh wow ok
when you steal a comment
@@04mifamilia He didn't the other comment was different.
@@04mifamilia When you act stupid
@@ethanwilkins662 can't relate
I switched up the words that’s good enough leave me alone
Obito is like the evil Naruto, he even has his own Talk no Jutsu that makes people lose hope as shown with Nagato and Kakashi.
Such truth.
Yeah your right
@Nigga-San Yeah i know
Their both like the Yin and yang of each other
Damn, I didn't look at it that way. Another reason for me to like him.
i like it, I don't really know for what reason Kishimoto used the talk no jutsu, but I believe problems aren't solved by fighting they're only temporarily gone, real solutions come from an understanding of each other's thoughts and calm, open-minded, honest discussions.
Yea i kinda agree with you but u can't expect everyone just to go with that way of dealing problems. there will always be someone who won't agree with what your saying and there will always be disputes among us. And that's wat makes us human. When the day everyone agrees with everything will be the day everyone will stop being human. Cause to be human is to not be perfect but try to perfect yourself to the best of your abilities. And for some people (like criminals), why is there way of living wrong but for a nice person who doesn't do bad things and do good deeds all the time way of living is right? These are questions I try to answer but always never get the answer. And let's say 2 countries go to war and they kill the kids in eachothers respective village so they won't grow up and and make there enemies army stronger. Is it bad that there only doing that to protect there village and there families?
Indra Otsutsuki sounds like those two countries need a talk no jutsu
@@brittanyalej that's not wat I was getting at I'm just saying u can't assume everyone is gonna be ok wit that way of going about things.plus I was using the countries as an example
"I don't really know for what reason Kishimoto used the talk no jutsu"
----you answered your own question with the rest of your comment. I get that Kishimoto may have had other reasons in mind but above all else, I'm sure he was aiming for what you said.
@@thebrandonrobert5693 yo I'm actually lost. U mind explaining?
I think what makes talk no jutsu so great is that Naruto had every reason to be evil, just like his villains. But unlike them, he doesn’t let his past effect his personality or future in a negative way, and that’s why he’s so inspiring, both to those he talks to, and the audience.
That’s not actually true. Naruto admitted he hated the villagers and tried to take revenge on them, the only reason Naruto is not evil is because of his comrades, if it wasn’t for Iruka, Naruto could’ve been like Obito or Garaa.
@@dana4801 Which is what Hyper Hedgehog just said, right? He doesn't let his past affect him and just focus with Iruka and his comrades
@@Michelle-pd3ke but Naruto did let his past affect him tho, but he copes with his comrades. Literally at the start of the series, Naruto stole the forbidden scroll, he was he going hurt the villagers, but Iruka’s speech changed his mind. The second time he almsot killed everyone when fighting pain, he was going to let the Kyuubi lose, but Minato stops him.
@@dana4801 and that's what make him so much interesting charachter because in the end of the day he's a human right ? he failed many times he doubt himself many times he wanted to kill pain despite hearing his past and that the leaf really fucked up his life but again he just didn't let his emotion of satisfaction to get in his way because he knows that wouldn't serve any puropose in the long terms
@@Michelle-pd3kehe didn't let past affect him solely due to support and love of his friends. Every time he was ready to snap there was someone giving him a hand. Meanwhile, every time Sasuke was on a crossroad he was manipulated again and again and led towards hatred. Shows how much loving connections with others can influence your situation
Pains speech literally brings me to tears every-single-time. Naruto was the first anime I got into. I watched every episode and filler (God help me) and this will forever me my favorite moment. Pain turning Naruto (a person who had such conviction and someone I looked upto at that point) into a mute, I lost it. Its like Pain was talking directly to me.
This was a legitimately well thought out and interesting video. Great work!
JaxBlade neji was right cause naruto is asura. And 4th kage saved him from giving up on vs nagato. So naruto whole story bullshit
JaxBlade who had good heart but his mind is not smart. He was destined to be great he touched hearts simply but his own blood still gives him war. As reincarnation of ootsuki he is still attacked by his original blood. Its uplifting but hes still wrong. If rick lee became hokage then he was right. If youre an alien god jinchuriki son of the 4th then no that whole change your destiny talk was a bold faced lie he told
Big Deo I know right I thought he hadnt that much free time
James White
I’m imagining Neji’s ghost appearing to Naruto occasionally going “Told yaaaaa…”
James White - Wow your comments are hard to read. Anyway, Neji was wrong. He was not forced to die for the main branch, he chose to die for Naruto and Hinata because he cares so deeply for them. Also both Naruto and Sasuke broke destiny because their Destiny as the reincarnations of Asura and Indra were to forever continue the battle that will leak into future generations. However, they broke the cycle of battle between the brothers and therefore opposed destiny.
Dude not gonna lie this was probably the best Naruto analysis I have ever seen and I have seen a few. Definitely worth the 50 mins watch time.
God damn. 50 motherfucking minutes I thought it was 10 XD
Not only that, it's a perfect summary of some of the largest character arcs through Naruto's growth and thus the show itself. 700 episodes summarized in 50 minutes ;)
I absolutely agree this was an excellent analysis.👌
I agree he made it so much more interesting.
Halpher madara was using obito, but I do think feel like arguing tbh, so I'm just going to say ok
Something I love about Boruto is that it shows the opposite of Naruto. Naruto was a story about a boy with nothing being able to get everything. But Boruto is a story about a kid with everything but doesn’t except it then he loses all of it and realizes what he had.
I’m pretty sure that’s been done before in other shows also doesn’t boruto get a eye power that no one else has and he never loses that and if that eye is the reason why he becomes so powerful it will show you that the only consistent thing in naruto is that that birth determines everything neji will always be right and that’s why he got killed by kishimoto, just so neji doesn’t call out narutos bullshit that’s just so wrong so so wrong.
@@dinogt8477 I think your right, if someone parents our rich and good to them they will have a good life even though they did nothing good, and someone born poor will be the opposite
Oh yeah Yeah neji is right
@@dinogt8477 Dragon Ball GT is better than Boruto, change my mind.
Jantheking it is better than boruto
Naruto's voice acting during his talk with Pain, the one he says he will destroy pain, makes me breakdown every single time
I said the same thing! Junko Takeuchi is such a good actress! You can hear the pain in Naruto’s voice when talking to Pain and that’s what carries that emotion to the viewers she’s so good at what she does and I feel like she isn’t appreciated as much.
@@andrewdasilva7786 omg would you PLEASE stop spamming this shit, we get you don’t like naruto
Also we're in Boruto now, Naruto is hokage. We're the fuk is the pace at? O damn Naruto it turns out you can't just create pace by beating up people that want to change the world in a meaningful way.
Naruto ideology is basically neo liberalism. Dont change systems (the ninja system as kakashi described) just get strong (rich), become hokage (tech billionaire)
,???(??) And then change the world, some how. Elon and bezos are still stuck at the ??? Phase.
@@TheNewblade1 what the fuck
I never got into Naruto so I don't have a formed opinion on Talk no Jutsu, but damn if I can't respect the amount of effort that clearly went into this video regardless.
i like naruto..trust me its not worth it..dont get into it ..start with boruto..naruto was a bunch of ass at times..good but terrible at the same time...i hated it but enjoyed enough of the characters comedy drama heart messages fights lure that i liked it but i can see why many don't ..it has story writing and world flawes that drag it down like the direction of arcs ...some just go nowhere..chasing sasuke flashbacks and speeches get annoying...
Honestly it's needs a rerelease like DBZ Kai, That shortens the series to an manageable length.
if you were going to watch it, skip all the filler. There are some lists on the internet you could use.
@@razkable Did you just say start with Boruto?
Dont watch boruto first no matter what. Also before you watch Naruto please dont skip to many filler episodes instead just make a list of them (ask someone online) and skim through them when ever you notice to many of them jammed close to each other. I watched and re watched the series with its fillers because I had the time and there barely were any shows I was interested in back then but i dont think you should do the same (there are way to many shows you should watch instead of the fillers). On the other hand Boruto will never be as good as Naruto because you cant make the show that exciting and dangerous with two god like characters walking around. So you probably wont even see any good development till Boruto grows up which takes long af. Also the shonen aspect in Boruto is complete ass since the characters always find a new trick up their sleeve 50 episode+ in . Even the creator said he has done everything he wanted with Naruto story in 699 chapters .
Even if kishi has given him some advises here and there ,it would be just FANFICTION.
I thought I was the only person who understood this about Naruto and understood why the dialogue is damned near the heart and soul of the series. (Coupled with the character of the heroes.)
I'm surprised that you understood things about it that I hadn't even thought about.
I understood that battles in Naruto are conflicts between the philosophies of the characters, but I didn't think of the idea that the losing character loses because of an inner contradiction. I thought just the better philosophy won out in the end. (Naruto's.)
You've got a new subscriber. :P
Thank you two for making me feel like I'm not the only one who appreciated the dialogue. I personally find purely evil characters to be a bit.... boring and an old way of thinking. This is better storytelling imo. Just think about having to write the series. You would literally need to setup a big philosophical/ethical dilemma and create arguments/counter arguments and finally, come to your own conclusion that millions of people would read. Kishimoto has problems as a manga creator, but his writing is one of the best if not, the best in shonen history.
...and then Boruto happened
I thought naruto was preachy and condescending, tbh I thought everyone was being condescending toward Sasuke
Ryan Seneczko The Best? Hell No. Far From It.
@@wahuigi6843 Sasuke was the one who was being condescending towards everyone.
Talk no jutsu was the best part of the series for me, after I look at it after years of watching Naruto. The chills and nostalgia the scene where he talks the Antagonist down is amazing,I mean Naruto vs Haku or Naruto vs Neji are so memorable due to the talk no jutsu present in it.
Lol most of it is childish and trash
It's good in some fights, trash in the rest. YES! The battle with Neji was memorable because of the talk no jutsu. But at the end of the series, that fight became the biggest joke because of the same talk no jutsu. Neji said fate exists and it's useless to fight it, Naruto said it doesn't. Well, guess what? Naruto is the fcken child of prophecy and Neji died for Hinata (the main Hyuuga line member). Neji was right, Naruto was a hypocrite. Naruto was destined to be a great figure because he's the child of prophecy and the fcken reincarnation of a ninja primordial god or smth. And Neji died doing what was expected of him as a side line of Hyuuga, to protect the main line of Hyuuga: *Hinata.*
Damn. Made me remember why I loved Naruto....
Here listen this is my legendary talk no jitsu .naruto is a shi.tshow with basic dialogs and to change ret'arded villains who destroy villages for miner reasons and then some du.mb kid who doesnt study with zero knowledge changed their minds by giving basic logic talk villains even after meeting hundreds of mature ppl and naruto gets shi'tton of plot armour and asspulls from his bf kishimoto with no explanation and dudes doesnt even train for his modes and he's from a elite clan from da start has a plot device inside of him and gets plot armor from random ghosts and side characters ar treated as trash no spotlight for them and ppl die for no reason and they make that sh!t emotional crap kishimoto loves dic.kriding naruho'e and dude cant even create shadow clone from beginning how dafuq was he able to create multiple clones just by seeing the scroll for a seconds this anime belongs in da dum.ps
naruto is a boring flat character whos just being depressed all the time for no reason and keeps thinking about his past and the swing instead of moving forward and who was just simping over sakura the whole series and screaming the shi.tout of his rivals name the whole show
Hunter x Hunter is a better show easily
@@andrewdasilva7786 Cool
@@andrewdasilva7786 i don't want to begin the debate but... you truly did not understanded Naruto's characters' mindset at all.
I'm 99% sure you didn't see the video before commenting because if you do, then what do you don't understand??? Kishimoto said absolutly EVERYTHING about this show so it makes sense, what is wrong with that???
Sakura, Ino, Hinata, Temari, Haku. How could you forget the baddest bitches of all time?
btw dibs on all of them, my waifu harem
I like how Naruto flexes that he started alone, and never met his parents.
Same i like characters who flex
Social outcast who’s also an orphan gang
Shoutout to the ppl wit evil beast inside of them trying to take over them, which leads to them being a social outcast GANG
naruto could of turned out like the villain so he sympathizes with people who did not have an iruka or did not have that option...he feels guilt that he could of been that for sasuke and it kills him inside as his biggest regret
you forgot the part about him being the reincarnation of Jesus Christ and being given special treatment by the third hokage.
Little fun fact. Neji had a fatalistic world view because of his eyes, in part. His special sight allowed him to see people's inner chakra, so he studied people a lot and was able to find lots of patterns in behavior and results due to what he sees inside of people.
That is why when Naruto convinces him that he can control his own fate, he sees a bird gliding in the wind. He can see the chakra within that bird and saw how it was gliding on the wind, and it was something he never saw before. The visual aspect of the bird freely gliding represented freedom from fate, and Neji saw this being visually represented as Naruto was verbally expressing it.
the ironic thing is, fast forward to the end of Naruto, Neji was right about destiny determines fate. Don't believe me? Think about the power Naruto and Sasuke have and think how much of it has to do with Destiny or inheritance?
@@Shootingfoul If that was the case then why didn't the show end with either Sasuke or Naruto dying? That was their whole destiny, the reincarnatons of the sage's son fighting until one of them died. Neji's death was similiar to how his father died, he didn't die becouse he was destined to, he died because he chose to sacrifice himself for his brother. Neji could have, you know, not taken the attack from Obito to protect Hinata. Hinata didn't force him, no one did. It was at that moment he chose his own destiny and died protecting Hinata, like how his dad did.
@@Shootingfoul bruh you're saying nonsense.... you can't watch this video and still blab out ignorant shit
Weizi think you misunderstood bruh
@@boidoo3191 It was never destiny for the sage's sons to kill each other it was just a grudge/conflict that would always happen between them throughout generations that "could've" lead to either one dying! "The children of prophecy" is a prime example of how Neji was right 2 ninja "sasuke" & "naruto" were destined to do great things despite them working towards that goal! The concept of Kekkei genkai is also another nod to nejis point about those who are born being geniuses! Naruto was not only a child of prophecy but was born from the uzumaki which resulted in him having abnormal amounts of chakra from birth! A clear advantage that most ninja dont have! The only one who proved neji wrong was Rock Lee due to the fact that he was the true underdog that naruto never was & proved that you can be something even if you are from nothing by working hard! But, even then hard work has its limits compared to those chosen by fate "naruto & sasuke" being the stronger than Lee despite him working harder than them for example!
i feel so sad when people say that Sasuke leaving the village in Naruto makes no sense when literally Sasuke tells Naruto all of his reasons of why he has to leave and the only thing Naruto can bring himself to say is "but everyone risked everything to bring you back and well be so sad if you leave :c", like people pls the guy lost all his family to his brother and that brother came back to humilliate him and try to kidnap his only friend, of course hes gonna leave if someone comes to him with a way to get power quickly and the only person that comes to stop you only can say that you have to comeback because we are friends dattebayo and doesnt even try to understand you
It's literally because they were trying to save him that he left
@@alexdale8705 i mean thats reducing it a little too much i think but i guess thats one way to see it xd
Yeah naruto was basically saying our shits been worse because of you but you can make it up to us if you come back
@Itachi Is superior to you exactly lol I agree they are fucking annoying glas there is someone who agrees with me
@@andrewdasilva7786 bruh didn’t watch the video or this other guys videos on naruto I can easily go through you crappy biased hating points but I can’t be bothered there is no changing you’re mind it’s really sad that mindlessly hate on naruto when it’s actually amazing maybe you’re a troll
I'm gonna be honest the amount of depth in this show still amazes me to this day
Yeah, I'd say he lived up to his aspirations in Togashi-sensei. :)
I love talk no jutsu because wanting it or not, the villains are still PEOPLE.
They have feelings, thoughts, experiences and motivations.
If you can get into it, and they are somewhat wrong, with the right conversation they WILL change, or at least weaken.
They are not objects to be punched and broken by our heroes.
Every villain Naruto converted had some connection with him and them found themselves with him or saw the truth from a different perspective, other than the desperate and manipulated one.
They are *not* absolute, not to change. Treating your characters like people are the best thing an author can do.
Tell that after they kill you.
@@ritabratachakraborty1191 *See Pain Arc
@@SpookyMarine and?
@@ritabratachakraborty1191 nigga deadass revived the whole village after Naruto hit him with a sad backstory that shit pissed me off ngl
@@navar1295 why did that piss you off? You think its just for plot convinience?
The Narutoverse would be a better place if Haku wasnt...............
*declared to be a guy.*
I liked that very much :)
It‘s because it‘s shonen so a female Character can’t be useful or strong so Haku couldn’t be female 😂
true..but i guess it's too much to have a deadly female character
Sadly that is true
Himiko Toga. Cute but very deadly.
What a great retrospection honestly didnt think of some of these myself, but the Kakuzu contradiction feels like it was realised when he talked with reanimated Itachi and how Naruto wanted to take on the world by himself then how Itachi said Naruto would end up like Madara if kept having that thought. The act of him trusting Itachi I think helped him realise that contradiction.
Evil person : "I will destroy the world"
Naruto : "Talk (rasengan)"
Evil person : "understandable have a good day"
I think this and Swagkage's Sasuke dissection are two of the best pieces of Naruto on TH-cam. They are such good analysis videos that shed some light on Naruto's more contentious aspects.
TheBrandonRobert Judging by the comments people seem to love and enjoy this content.
PREACH!
my biggest issue with naruto is how after the neji fight naruto does not check up on hinata in the hospital even though the last thing they heard was she is going into cardiac arrest after he pushed her so hard and he then made his vow but he does not think to go look at her?.....and how he does not think to check up on her and she just happens to show up in his life before the neji fight when he was not even looking for her and then he ignores her until he again bumps into team 10 on accident in shippuden after years and then we don't see her again until the itachi pursuit mission something naruto did not create so its luck they meet up again and then theres the pain moment which again naruto has no control over she just shows up and he does not thank her after ...then you have the war his clone saves her she helps him vs the ten tails...but then after she escapes the dream world cacoon the only time you see naruto and her again in the manga is at neji's funeral...and they don't talk..just like at the hiruzen funeral or when he left the village...and they don't talk in the final episode of shippuden really..he says one word to her...smdh as they are getting married..he says ready or something ..smdh..really?..its just weird to me how naruto forgets hinata exists in the manga...she just happens to show up in his life ..same thing in the last..he was totally not going to date her or seek her out..she came to him then he saw her memories thanks to a lucky genjutsu...and then the rest is history
@@razkable yeah but I honestly like Hinata and her pair of Hinatas :)
@@razkable Uh you kind of can explain these
sometime someone needs someone to TALK TO THEM
THATS THE POINT
I too have experienced pain... That sums up ALL the talk no jutsu moments. Every antagonist in this series is the same damn thing, they all are in pain, here comes bishop naruto and repeats the same demagoguery over and over and over again. That's not how dialogue works, we were all children when the author started this crap, lol That's why we only noticed this obvious literary flaw much later
@Jkong Hong oh sure, an amount of events... Like obito, wants to destroy the world because his friendzone died. Then, he wants to live in a dream world with his friendzone, that is his final plan. And guess what argument brought him back to the light? There's no major antagonist in modern shonen with a worse backstory than Obito
@Jkong Hong tragic, lol don't be ridiculous. He is incredibly badly writen. Not only him, but pretty much the entire cast. Gaara: momma doesn't love me, so I will kill for love. Sasuke: brother doesn't love me, so I will hate everything. Obito: my friendzone doesn't love me, so I will destroy the goddamn world. The author tried to direct part of the blame for the "shinobi system", but he failed tremendously. There is no system, it is a mess, villages attack each other for no reason, there's no logical background. The little neji flashback is the perfect example, the village dynamics makes no sense whatsoever. This is the "system" obito wants to destroy... Just as bad as the friendzone justification. And this nonsense about madara "manipulation", this is a obvious gimmick. Everyone is manipulated, obito manipulated pain, but oh wait, madara manipulated obito.. But wait, zetsu manipulated madara, but wait... Kaguya manipulated zetsu, etc, etc... Such a shitty story
R yet you’re watching this video.....
@@jamrah8713 do you really assume that TH-cam is solely used to watch videos? Comment sections can be used as English practice. Also, I was trying to read this abomination again, trying my best to accept all the inconsistencies and bad writing... But I could not go beyond the "Naruto peptalking Nagato" bullshit... This shit is unbelievably bad, just awful. An entire volume of cheap motivational speeches
Obito: I killed your parents, your best friend and started the 4th great Shinobi war.
Naruto: Will you be my friend?
Lesson learned : Naruto should have been a therapist instead of a ninja
Not gonna lie I still love Naruto talking down a villain and having a philosophical debate with a antagonist 👍👍always added the most feels in the shows and made it different from others
Because Kishimoto doesn't make antagonists evil for the sake of being evil. Everyone is just some person with rough past that leaded him to such and not other conclusions. That's why so many of them do have redeeming charater qualities, regardless of commited crimes. This uniqness is something for other anime to take notes from.
Negro Otaku Same. I actually like seeing villains change. Letting them stay “evil” for the whole series bores me.
Joker has been pure evil for years and yet he is anything but boring! Also, pure evil villains are underrated. I like complex villains, but it is nice to have cruel and evil villains who can still be nuanced and not easily swayed by words.
@@tayojones9460 I like complex villains far more but Orochimaru cruel and evil to the core. Even as a child he was somewhat twisted and sadistic but it wasn't as fleshed out. But adding some tragic background of loosing parents and living during a war where he has seen a lot of death (he did care about his comrads back in the day) adds dimensions to his character. He is completly evil and unsymphatetic yet still has that 3dimensional aspect of complexity if you pay attention to his hatred towards concept of death which developed to obsession of immortality and using his eternal life time spent to discover everything. You can craft "pure evil" and complexity at the same time.
Also people dislike most pure evil villains because of how flat most of them are. Joker doesn't apply to that category because he has very interesting dynamic with the protagonist. He has something to do with main character. But *MOST* of pure evil ones are just boring, cocky obstacles without unique character traits. Oozai from ATLA is good example of that. Great series but writing of it's climax was a let down when you don't fanboy over all that flashy bending showings.
Sorry? But what about Bloody Kilgrave from Jessica Jones? He had a,tragic back story but still became a pure evil monster. He was evil but still complex. The very idea that you cannot have complex villains who are also pure evil is simply ridiculous! And just because a villain is pure evil with no complex motivations does not make them flat. It just makes them entetaining and I like to be entertained!
What’s interesting about talk no jutsu, is that Kishimoto seems to have been inspired by Rurouni Kenshin when it came to villains changing ideals through words, which makes sense considering Kishimoto has stated that he was influenced by Rurouni Kenshin as he read it during college. So Kenshin could really appeal to you as its the predecessor to Naruto in a way, the difference is that I think Kenshin was executed better due to it being shorter but that’s my opinion, and that’s not even to shit on Naruto as I think Naruto did a lot right as well.
True. Kenshin's villains always give a speech before they die.
Isn't Kenshin literally written by a known pedophile?
Zephyr Nepres gotta be that guy don’t ya? ;(
@Nicholas Robinson sure
Talk no Jutsu works, I’ve used it countless time, defeating school bullies, or even greater having the bullies become your actual friends. If you have the power of words (word smith) you can really force reality to your will.
I wish to learn it!!!!
of all the things that didn't happen, that happened the didn'test
@@SpiralingOceanWhirlpool4729 it takes time, be you can, learn to listen and to see things from others perspective and learn how to be an empathic listener
Terence McKenna would be proud.
I don’t see many people who like talk no jutsu, but to me, it was always one of my favorite parts of Naruto.
People forget it only works on a certain type of person
exactly!@@ben0789
@@ben0789 Yeah, they forget that it doesn't always work. He tried it on Deidara and he didn't budge because he didn't understand anything Naruto said.
Holy crap this video just made me fall in love with the plot of Naruto all over again. Seriously hindsight really is 20/20
Here listen this is my legendary talk no jitsu .naruto is a shi.tshow with basic dialogs and to change ret'arded villains who destroy villages for miner reasons and then some du.mb kid who doesnt study with zero knowledge changed their minds by giving basic logic talk villains even after meeting hundreds of mature ppl and naruto gets shi'tton of plot armour and asspulls from his bf kishimoto with no explanation and dudes doesnt even train for his modes and he's from a elite clan from da start has a plot device inside of him and gets plot armor from random ghosts and side characters ar treated as trash no spotlight for them and ppl die for no reason and they make that sh!t emotional crap kishimoto loves dic.kriding naruho'e and dude cant even create shadow clone from beginning how dafuq was he able to create multiple clones just by seeing the scroll for a seconds this anime belongs in da dum.ps
naruto is a boring flat character whos just being depressed all the time for no reason and keeps thinking about his past and the swing instead of moving forward and who was just simping over sakura the whole series and screaming the shi.tout of his rivals name the whole show
Hunter x Hunter is a better show easily
@@andrewdasilva7786 how can you expect to talk no jutsu someone when you can’t even spell correctly…
@@andrewdasilva7786 Lmao did you not realize that Naruto world is different from ours. They mostly follow Buddhism'. They don't have Abrahamic religions' Hell and Heaven. Death is not the end of person's journey.
which my vision was
The reaching is too vague in here
Wow; I've never really read or watched much Naruto analysis before so maybe much of this was already floating out there, but watching this video has transformed my understanding of the subtext and philosophy of the series. I can't believe it's possible to construct such a coherent and rational throughline for the progression of Naturo's character and ideology as well as the increasing complexity of his opponents, and as a rationalist I love the idea that all of these conflicts are ultimately settled by logical philosophical debate, characters being willing to abandon even their most deep-set ideologies when it's proven to them beyond a shadow of a doubt that they have a fallacious foundation. I went back and re-watched the episode where Naruto wins over Nagato, and I hadn't really understood what'd convinced him the first time I saw it, but now I can watch it in terms of the subtextual meaning of each chunk of their exchange and it MAKES. SO. MUCH. SENSE. Bravo, sir; you've given me a much deeper appreciation of Naruto, and I look forward to hearing more of your thoughts in the future!
I know right? It's crazy how we find out that we loved the series so much and at the same time we weren't even close to grasp it's REAL greatness before somebody makes an essay about it. Mathwiz deserves an order.
naruto is a shitshow with basic dialogs and to change ret'arded villains who destroy villages for miner reasons and then some du.mb kid who doesnt study with zero knowledge changed their minds by giving basic logic talk even after meeting hundreds of mature ppl and gets shi'tton of plot armour and asspulls from his bf kishimoto with no explanation and dudes doesnt even train for his modes and he's from a elite clan from da start has a plot device inside of him and gets plot armor from random ghosts and side characters ar treated as trash no spotlight for them and ppl die for no reason and they make that sh!t emotional crap kishimoto loves dic.kriding naruho'e and dude cant even create shadow clone from beginning how dafuq was he able to create multiple clones just by seeing the scroll for a seconds this anime belongs in da dum.ps
naruto is a boring flat character and who was just simping over sakura and screaming the shi.tout of his rivals name the whole show
@UC0RBKLxT4fDQU6cJMMMKmoQ nigga your name is Andrew. Shut the fuck uom you actually out here calling Naruto shit when you probably think Boruto is better.
@@andrewdasilva7786 dawg you have 70 comments on this channel spreading this shitshow analysis find something better to do with your time
You have no idea how many times I recommended this video to my friends and even discussed it in classrooms about symbolism and I always bring this video up. I’ve watched this masterpiece so many times because it’s really good!
Peeps, Kishi taught us to look underneath the underneath during the bell test.
This video is just that. Well Carved Out Analysis.
that was really great to watch, thanks for taking your time to make it ^^
Oha shoot you're here?
Here listen this is my legendary talk no jitsu .naruto is a shi.tshow with basic dialogs and to change ret'arded villains who destroy villages for miner reasons and then some du.mb kid who doesnt study with zero knowledge changed their minds by giving basic logic talk villains even after meeting hundreds of mature ppl and naruto gets shi'tton of plot armour and asspulls from his bf kishimoto with no explanation and dudes doesnt even train for his modes and he's from a elite clan from da start has a plot device inside of him and gets plot armor from random ghosts and side characters ar treated as trash no spotlight for them and ppl die for no reason and they make that sh!t emotional crap kishimoto loves dic.kriding naruho'e and dude cant even create shadow clone from beginning how dafuq was he able to create multiple clones just by seeing the scroll for a seconds this anime belongs in da dum.ps
naruto is a boring flat character whos just being depressed all the time for no reason and keeps thinking about his past and the swing instead of moving forward and who was just simping over sakura the whole series and screaming the shi.tout of his rivals name the whole show
Hunter x Hunter is a better show easily
@@sniffer2853p
Maybe I'm suffering from confirmation bias but after all the bitching, whining and memes I see of Naruto, something like this really makes my day
Naruto is just easy to shit on by people who don't understand or people who got tired of waiting weekly for episodes of filler which is definitely relatable, but I think overall it's very enjoyable.
The thing is people pick the rather small bad parts of Naruto and Hate on it really really hard. No other Anime gets that much unnecessary hate
Ashleigh Tompkins ash slay those tompkins girl you so beautiful
Ahmxt Sxnjuu DBZ, dbgt, bleach, SnK get a hate for small stuff it's nothing new
Thato Omphile I mean Aot doesn't get much hate at all and in DBZ gets some hate but out deserves that partly. That's just my opinion
Kakuzu was a once honorable Samuai who simply lost all morals due to being a warrior for so long, thats what I got from it.
Kishi himself also said that he wanted to write that in for Kakuzu, as well as backstory and additional powers for Hidan, but was forced to rush this arc due to back pains and a deadline.
Well at least Hidan did provide a lot of development for Shikimaru.
man those two are one of my favs from akatsuki, i would love to read their backstories someday
@@sakshamsharma2840 probably never gonna happen. Kishi is taking it easy now.
@@snakey934Snakeybakey yeah ik. still makes me kinda annoyed I didn't get to read or watch what he wanted to do.
I just watched itachi's memory arc which included them recruiting Hidan, and his backstory is literally "there's a homocidial maniac on the loose, we've received payment to go kill this man. oh fk he is immortal, let's force him to join the akatsuki."
I think pain’s contradiction was also the fact that he said that people could never understand each other but the reason that konan followed him was the fact that they understood eachother.
That and the fact that while he kept saying mutual pain would drive people to peace his pain was driving him to vengeance
also the fact that konan already told him to stop yet he still continue
So you and Craftsdwarf upload videos on Naruto right after each other with almost the reversed thumbnail of the two lead characters respectively. Nice.
well that's the "CCC" at play
there is zero percent chance that that was an accident.
Ost at 12:53??
Funny how people seem to think Neji was right in the end. Naruto kept fighting destiny up to the very end. Indra and Ashura were always meant to fight and kill one or the other to the bitter end. They were meant to reincarnate to keep replicating that destiny but Naruto fought that destiny and ended the chain. He fought that one thing he was literally destined to do: to be part of a never ending sibling rivalry. So if we're talking about destiny being pre-determined, Naruto just kicked that in the balls by finally settling things right with his counterpart: Sasuke.
Yeah, they seem forget that all the time.
His Destiny was also to unite the tailed Beast to fight someone with powerful eyes and to find peace within the ninja world
Agreed!
@Joshua Jung Um no
@@hungrywarrensapp4871 um yes. Kishimoto decides everything, therefore everything that naruto does had been destined by kishimoto.
Talk no Jutsu is one of the best parts of this series, and arguably defined it. Glad to see someone else see it that way.
Apparently Having human to human conversation is Talk no justsu now, people really just want to see dumb fighting with no real meaning
But the problem is talk no jutsu is overuses and become cliche. It almost always around Naruto.Recycle dialogue named "I have experienced pain".
When you watch your first anime and think it's great, and then watch more and think it isn't, and then watch a 40 min analysis video and realize it really is great
IKR!!!
same!
and then you rewatch old clips/episodes of naruto or shippuden
Halpher lol that's your opinion. The mass thinks naruto is great.
Tekey six according to you what the mass think is what is right. The mass don’t view naruto as a top 10 anime so you must also believe that is right?
All the talking scenes is literally why this series is a legend.. It really gets you on the feels, and it's not just a typical anime where they fight with *power* . They have amazing fighting plans that's really unexpected..
So feels equal quality no wonder naruto and modern shonen shows are so bad
@@dinogt8477 if something gets you emotional then it’s good if something connects you to a character so well that you get sad when they die then you’ve truly written a good character
Seasaw that’s not even true you naruto fanboys really are delusional you guys think feels equal good writing when that isn’t true I wasn’t upset when jiraiya died I was happy so did kishimoto really make a good character? There are shows that don’t make you cry and are way better than naruto. I can’t believe you actually just said that.
I can Say Some Scenes with talking is Good & like u say it’s legendary but Tbh it’s soo boring I watch Naruto Talking Scene is Good but some Scenes don’t need to be talking all the time that’s what’s makes me Turn off about the show and the manga. No talk no Jutsu is Plot armor itself. The whole Entire Villains we have deal with no Talk no justu there’s no Real Good villains that Actually won a battle that Challenge the main Protagonist, and protagonist Partner that whats makes me mad about the story. When things not going on what Naruto “Wants” no Talk No justu will do the trick like the last Resort. Don’t get me wrong but the battle with Haku & Zabuza is perfect for No Talk no Jutsu to have that moment of Naruto his ninja way and let it be known and that’s it end of the arc. And also No talk no justu is really annoying it doesn’t Get you on the feels it always Telling “Oh hey I’m going to talk you out of it”. The fights is Legendary Hands down but Naruto always have to bring No Talk no justu to change anyone’s mind. The fighting plans was Awesome I wish they Replace with no Talk no justu. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but Naruto Story is awesome but what make it Cancer is no talk no justu, The potential characters that wasted (Inari, Sakura etc.) and a lot more.
@@DDYL4N no lol most of the emotions are artificial and made up
It’s just so funny seeing people in the comments go: -villains in Naruto are shallow and Naruto is a piece of shit anime.
Well, let’s address it because I’m honestly tired of being in the sidelines:
1- Talk no justu: remember when Hagoromo appeared in Naruto shippuden and explained the backstory of the otsutsuki family, he mentioned that before ninjutsu ( indra’s invention ), there was ninshu ( Hagoromo’s own shinobi creed ), a way of connection and understanding between people through chackra. That was the reason ashura was able to defeat Indra the first time they fought, he had tapped into the chackra supply of all his most trusted friends. That is also the reason Indra’s will and ashura’s will we’re passed down through the generations, although they started using ninjutsu to battle, they were still born in and primarily thought ninshu as a way of life, that allowed them to transmit their will to their followers even after death, not power or any special ability, just their will. Proof of this is the fact that hashirama , the first hokage, had wood style, an ability exclusive to him as a reincarnation of the will of ashura.
But how does this all relate to Naruto you ask? If you haven’t yet realized, Naruto being a ashura reincarnation means that he carries the will of ashura and therefore the ability to connect with people through ninshu, literally seeing through them which allows him to say exactly what they need to hear because he has seen it in their hearts. Naruto does this unaware of the implications up until shippuden when he meets Hagoromo and finds out the true meaning of “talk no justu”.
The villains: they are not bland, well most of them:
-Zabuza and Haku: they were a perfect foil to Naruto. While at the time, Naruto believed being a ninja was about protecting your home and loved ones, Zabuza being a former ninja turned rogue and older that Naruto, having seen and participated in the previous ninja war, said ninjas were nothing but a tool for the village they represented, they were raised child soldiers and used until they lost purpose then discarded, that how Gatou, Zabuza’s employer got all the bodyguards he had, they were all washed out ninja. Zabuza being a mercenary for hire was his way of saying: “if I’ll be a tool, it will be to achieve my own goals”, namely money and freedom from duty.
Naruto changed Zabuza’s mind on the grounds of showing unparalleled compassion to Haku despite him being another “tool”, not killing Haku after injuring Sasuke seriously and instead breaking down in tears in witness of Haku’s love for Zabuza, the one that saved him from a life of misery and took care of him less like a tool and more like a partner despite his beliefs. Naruto pointed this contradiction in Zabuza’s actions and after Haku sacrificed himself for Zabuza, he finally understood he was looking for a legit reason to fight and live all his time as a rogue, the hidden mist( his home hence Zabuza of the hidden mist ) didn’t give a shit about him way back when so he left, then he found Haku and despite what he said about the reality of ninja, he unknowingly found peace in his partnership with Haku, deeply caring for him since he was a child he found living in squalor, he had found something, someone worth fighting for that justified his existence as a ninja and not just a “tool” however his realization came only after the fight, which is why he breaks in tears and with nothing less to fight for in this world, sacrifices himself to defend Naruto and the team as well as ending Gatou, his employer, also as way to honor Haku, whom he basically saw as family due to the fact that a man as devious as Gatou took advantage of Haku.
While watching the series it is easy to understand the major themes and ideals of the characters but you did a great job explaining some of the nuance
It is kinda sappy... but hearing Naruto actually give a damn about people in a world what was so critical...was something to behold.
Everyone in Naruto tries to convince him to be cruel or emotionless, they try to convince him to become a monster.
But he never gives in. He is broken, and looses so much but always believes his "ninja" way.
Ironic...he makes a terrible ninja...but a great leader and hero
I agree with everything except him being a terrible ninja....like what? Explain that.
A Ninja's historical role was to be a stealthy assasin...Naruto aint very stealthy lol
Wow, Naruto really has strong willpower. It's almost as if he is a fictional character. It would have been better if that was actually believable.
You dumb? Naruto tried to kill Haku. Naruto was willing to kill Gaara if he needed to. Naruto tried to kill Deidara and Itachi. Naruto was willing to murder Pain and even planned on killing Nagato before changing his mind. Naruto did attempt to kill Obito as well, using deadly techniques with the intention to kill him, before Obito changes himself.
Naruto IS willing to kill, but he doesn't kill people who have changed for the better, and lets them atone for their own mistakes.
Funny, he doesn't kill people who are trying to become better people.
@@lisaanderson976Naruto was a terrible ninja because by the "instrument of death" definition of the current desire of all shinobi naruto did more than fall short of greatness but stood as a totem of disregard for truth and destiny. In other words a total failure.
this may be the best naruto analysis video i have watched.
while i enjoy memes on "talk no jutsu", i never really understood it.
always thought that there is clearly more going on than naruto tells his enemies, "i am right, you are wrong" and just talks them out of their ways. just so much more contexts behind it than just plot conveniences, or him magically convinces them by motivational speeches.
well done.
I've always loved Talk no Jutsu. It was something different when it came to shonen. I loved how Kishi approached it where Naruto actually confronts the antagonist through words by battling their ideals while also improving his own.
One of the best analysis of an anime I've ever watched.
I think talk no justu is the best part of naruto
*Sad Japanese music plays in the background*
@@stevenmendoza3732 More like the worst part.
@@colindowden2182 Explain why?
@@dingodango4714 Plot convenience. Kishimoto basically just dont have enough skills to write a good story so he just throws the most easy-to-write kind of conclusion to any conflict, talk no jutsu. This is also commonly known as "lazy writing."
@@bayekofsiwa5847 how is it plot convenience.
This video is a masterpiece. I've always likes talk no jutsu but didn't even understand it that deeply. Thank you for this amazing analysis. I hope more ppl will come to understand and appreciate this aspect of Naruto.
Here listen this is my legendary talk no jitsu .naruto is a shi.tshow with basic dialogs and to change ret'arded villains who destroy villages for miner reasons and then some du.mb kid who doesnt study with zero knowledge changed their minds by giving basic logic talk villains even after meeting hundreds of mature ppl and naruto gets shi'tton of plot armour and asspulls from his bf kishimoto with no explanation and dudes doesnt even train for his modes and he's from a elite clan from da start has a plot device inside of him and gets plot armor from random ghosts and side characters ar treated as trash no spotlight for them and ppl die for no reason and they make that sh!t emotional crap kishimoto loves dic.kriding naruho'e and dude cant even create shadow clone from beginning how dafuq was he able to create multiple clones just by seeing the scroll for a seconds this anime belongs in da dum.ps
naruto is a boring flat character whos just being depressed all the time for no reason and keeps thinking about his past and the swing instead of moving forward and who was just simping over sakura the whole series and screaming the shi.tout of his rivals name the whole show
Hunter x Hunter is a better show easily
@@andrewdasilva7786 keep spamming that message kid u know you people actually the reason so much hate are on this world like sheeesh get some remorse did your parents abandoned you and u have no one to socialize so you come here in the internet and say this pathethic bullsh*t???
@@xdioximidex5476 man u just killed him
Grow up clown he's obviously reaching to justify bad writing it's disgusting
@@xdioximidex5476 at least he's telling the truth rather than complicating bad writing
The only problem I was have with talk-no-jutsu is that Pain and Sasuke were the only people to directly challenge NARUTO'S philosophy
But that’s why naruto changed in that manner. He was looking at the world with rose tinted glasses and in a narrow view until he saw the big picture. Pain and sauske changed his view on life.
@@everettenjeze6276not really that’s the thing about Naruto he never really changed he always been the same person with a lack of intelligence and common sense the world just works in his favor since he’s the main character. Throughout the entire show Naruto’s whole mindset is “everything will be fine no matter what that’s my ninja way”. Another way of saying I’ll get everything with no sacrifice he says he’ll save sasuke and the village, he was spouting becoming hokage when he was a trash ninja until he got sage mode but he could get away with it cause of nine tails, he’s always talking about being a jinchuriki and how hard it is like he hasn’t been surrounded by love basically his entire life. To me naruto is easily one of the least interesting and dynamic characters on the show
@@qdakid7776 You are virtually wrong in everything; it's actually hilarious.
To say Naruto never changed is entirely wrong. The video itself already provides arguments, but I'll go further.
Itachi confronted Naruto. Naruto believed he should become a Hokage to finally be recognized by the people. Itachi called him out and told him it was the exact opposite; that he needs to be recognized in order to be a Hokage. This changes Naruto quite drastically. His goal is the same, but his reasoning is different. That's a trait of maturity and growth.
When Naruto is faced with his darker self, he needs to look inside, see what a part of him feels. Naruto is, therefore, forced to confront himself. He is told that hatred was the thing making him move forward, that people only liked him because now he served a purpose, and that his pain would always remain. Naruto had to tackle each point to grow. He understood that hatred, although an important driver for his power, was the love of others that made him grow. To prove his lack of resentment towards his village, he made a signature, symbolizing that he had moved on from being resentful towards his own people and truly wanted to provide his signature when he was asked to. He then embraces his dark side, his solitude, and anger, which is stuck on a vicious circle of pain and hatred, and he accepts it, makes it a part of him, understands it, and transforms it into a source of good. Maturing to the point of embracing all his trauma and issues is a massive narrative moment for the character, one where the audience is finally told what everyone already knew, but Naruto was keeping hidden to then be explored and embraced.
Naruto doesn't lack common sense. Seriously, did you bother watching the video? Naruto always provides valuable arguments backed with actions and previous build-up. He might be overly positive, but he is well aware of the issues surrounding him and others. It's a main theme in the series.
Saying Naruto isn't a dynamic character is again an objectively wrong claim. Do you even understand the meaning of the word? Or are you just throwing it around aimlessly? The video very clearly provided you with some of the most important dynamics in the entire series. Naruto has so many dynamics, whether that's with his sensei, enemies, or even friends. There is always a reason behind his dynamics: growth, contrast, parallels, etc. You might not like Naruto's dynamics, but he clearly doesn't lack them. They are very important narratively speaking and some of the best narratively wise in the series.
Then you spout the nonsense that Naruto was able to repeat he was a Hokage although he was untalented while getting away with it. Did you bother watching the series? Naruto was never able to claim he was a Hokage; people literally laughed in his face. Nobody believed in him. Seriously, you don't make sense. That's just his own confidence as a character. He is trying to convince himself and prove a point. He never "got away"; people just laughed at him for saying it, and not once was he taken seriously until later on. You are truly clueless.
Then you have the audacity to say he managed everything with no sacrifice. He constantly put his life on the line, lost his childhood, lost friends, and lost family, and trained hard. If he trains and risks his life, he is clearly committed to his goal. He becomes a Hokage through hard work and relevance in the village. He saves Sasuke after hundreds of episodes and build-up to their conclusion.
This was one of the most disingenuous comments I have ever seen, full of incongruences, fallacies, and incorrect information, or at least a purposeful intent to misinterpret the entire story and the main character.
still, i never seen no argument that naruto didnt just get abso everything he wanted because of the red dog inside of him which was essentially the plot device for the author to get outta any inconvenience the main character faced lmao
let me go further there too:
1st what the fuck is a clone and why kishi thought it was a good idea to enter them in naruto is weird, along with genjutsu, great job kishi now ur viewers dont even know if whats on screen can even be trusted what a flying joke this show was:
these fights have absolutely no weight to them, stakes all the fucking time created by artificial kills, meaningless crap, any time the important characters get "hit for real" its always a clone, even the audience recognizes how mediocre that is, or if you are lucky enough to be the only fucking uchia, u get hit, ofc its a genjutsu xD how more lame can u get ohh nooo but the villain gets hit, shit ma boi shoulda learned clone or genjutsu xD aside from a select few clone justu or genjutsu of villains (itachi included) that i can count both categories ensemble with only one hand, a villain doesnt realize ever that shit, if i get into trouble maybe faking my death would be saving my ass
a few i remember how bullshit they were:
orochi vs "some old ass bum"
shit hiruzen pulled something weird outta his ass, better leave a clone to save my game, and i mean, snakeboi does have omnipresence because of his experiments but essentially here it was plot convinience go ahead and deny lmao xd it was helping him as most as possible because sasuke needs to get his corruption, but if he was just some random ass villain with no story, that would've been it orochi, u getting erased now lmao, tough luck
naruto vs orange naruto
shit naruto is preparing a rasengan and my social distance jutsu is on cooldown, but he's so far away, he wont make it in time anyway, but ill leave a clone here, just in case xD boi you should have xD u really fucked up there didnt u yahiko orangotango, he made u dance slick cus apparently ur puppeter has too much chakra, no room for intelligence in the brain no more lmfao
naruto vs carnival naruto
oh fuck they figured out my jutsu, i might need to be more careful, i dont want them to figure out im obito, they already know im not madara anyway, imma leave a clone in case things get dire for my side....(some time later)....oh shit naruto tricked me, my mask will be blown off and ill be revealed, good thing it was a clone, NOT HAHAAHAHA XDDDDDD fuck obito that rock truly made ur smoll brain even smaller didnt it now, if u really couldnt leave a clone, didnt madara ever teach u to dodge incoming attacks at the very least? what a waste xd
obito vs kakashi
this fight is lit sure, but personally it pisses me off, here kakashi once again shows how the "heros" always come out unscathed (unless its for dramatic effect) here we see clearly obito's about to go down on kakashi and possibly end him, but oh wow, ofc kakashi remembers that the best way to get outta pinch is a clone, see obito? use a clone bro and u might have a better chance at not dying xd maybe, but yeah that shit is just meaningless to see, i guess the animators wanted to show obito stab something to make him look more evil, ofc not the opponent tho, that would be bad for him, lets make him stab a clone that will electrify him too xD on god that obito doesnt want to kill kakashi anyway but he musta know it was a fako, because he was going for the kill lol xdd
dont remember more, maybe later sc
@@isaakyhsialf4369 Your arguments are all wrong or a willing misunderstanding of the narrative.
A clone jutsu is a technique included by the author since the very start; you need to use hand signs each time to use it, and each time those hand signs were shown on screen, very clearly.
Sharingan and Genjutsu are another technique introduced since the start; again, they always make you know when these are being implemented by the user.
Kurama was introduced since the very start, as the previously mentioned techniques; this is a plot device, you are right. Devil fruits, anti-magic, curse techniques, the list goes on, they all are. A plot device is a narrative tool, hence not a valid criticism.
Every time Kurama saved Naruto, there was a reason for it. If Naruto dies, so did Kurama, and the more chakra Kurama let out, the weaker the seal becomes. Kurama was taking advantage every time of Naruto, to either escape or not die. Kurama is an inherent part of Naruto; they are not separated as you are trying to make it seem. Bijuus were also established since the beginning, and the 9 tails being the strongest was also presented from the beginning.
The viewer is very aware of what's going on, exactly why the choreography of Naruto is heavily praised; that you cannot personally follow it, that's on you. It's very clear what happens.
Saying fights have no weight is objectively incorrect. Many characters died while fighting: Jiraiya, Asuma, Itachi, Hiruzen, Pain, Obito, Neji, the list goes on.
Saying every time they get hit is a clone is again completely wrong. And no, that's not how genjutsu's work. Itachi was a master of genjutsu, and many other techniques were explored.
Obito Vs Kakashi
Your breakdown of this fight shows how absolutely clueless you are.
Obito needed to get his heart pierced to remove Madara's technique and become the 10 tails. Kakashi only won because Obito wanted it that way. It's so clear you are not using your head.
Then you claim Obito wasn't trying to kill Kakashi, which effectively debunks your entire meaningless breakdown. He was never going for the kill, and we saw Kakashi use his hand signs to create the clone; you are not making any sense. Clone jutsu is a technique included since the start, and in this case, it was used effectively, without making anything up. You are criticizing the established rules of the series, which is moronic. Worst of all, you refuse to acknowledge the entire purpose of the fight, which is for Obito to get his heart pierced. Kakashi got out of losing by using a valid technique, and Obito reacted to willingly die and let Kakashi use his other technique, piercing his heart.
Naruto Vs "carnival Naruto"
I don't even understand what you are saying; I'm assuming you are speaking about the fight between Obito, Kakashi, Guy, and Naruto. The strategy they were going to use was made clear to the audience; they clearly understood the weaknesses. Naruto's team, with this understanding, forced Obito to use his technique and send his face to the other dimension; otherwise, he was going to get him. With Kakashi's second half of the Kamui, they were able to send a clone of Naruto. It was a great strategy very clearly stated.
Send a clone and wait for the part of Obito to arrive to hit them. Obito was outnumbered. They forced him to react with Kamui, which enabled the clone to attack Obito in his pocket dimension.
Naruto Vs Pain
Please use your brain. Not every character can use the clone jutsu; furthermore, that's a jutsu requiring chakra. Pain was on cooldown; he couldn't clone himself or attack. Naruto forced him into that state to have enough time and hit him with his technique. Either way, I don't understand your criticism; this wasn't the reason Naruto won that fight, which makes your criticism even more nonsensical.
Pain can't use every technique, nor was he able to. How can Pain use a technique he doesn't have? And if he did, would not have enough chakra to use? You are being extremely disingenuous.
Orochimaru Vs Hiruzen
Orochimaru doesn't have omnipresence; what are you on about? He is a master of jutsus and creates many on his own. Hiruzen used his most powerful technique, and Orochimaru used his; both pulled unseen techniques out of nowhere, that was their introduction to their power levels.
Orochimaru only survived the seal because he swapped bodies. Otherwise, he was dead. Either way, the fight had a massive impact on him, and he couldn't use his arms for a long time.
It's also stated that Orochimaru was stronger than Hiruzen, and Hiruzen was past his prime. He still gave Orochimaru a massive fight. Orochimaru only survived for his body-swapping techniques, which were previously mentioned.
Next response, less sarcasm and more coherent sentences; with your high-school vocabulary, it's barely understandable what you are writing. Next time, write more clearly, state your points more accordingly, and less sarcastically.
There are so many things to criticize; Hashirama cells, introduction of Izanagi and Izanami, Madara's death, Kaguya's introduction, Obito's change. Genuinely, you could have chosen so many better arguments, and far better fights to complain about, like Deidara Vs Sasuke, but you chose some of the best, such as Obito Vs Kakashi, and Naruto Vs Pain.
I understand you hate Naruto, but you have far better arguments to employ than the nonsense you wrote.
this is hands down the best naruto video i've ever seen. you truly understood this opera and make the justice it deserves. Thank you.
This is one of my favorite analysis videos of Naruto ever. You've just earned yourself another sub for sure. You talked about this motif perfectly and managed to flawlessly go in depth into it and delve into whatever else it branched off to in the entire series while keeping your focus on the main thing, Talk no Jutsu. You kept it interesting , informative and consistent despite how long the video was. That was 46 minutes of my life that was worth it.
This anime series is a masterpiece as a whole in my opinion. A work of art (literally and non-literally). Thank you for the nostalgia and making me love it even more.
"FLAWLESSLY"?????? There are so many things that are wrong with this analysis and most of the things that he got right are just basic ass statements.
He said that Naruto's ideal remaining consistent during that Neji fight?
Before that fight even began, we saw Naruto a bunch of times just always relying on his fox powers. He said that hard work beats talent, but he is just as a hypocrite here as Neji was with his battle with Hinata. He said that he works hard but he is a guy who hates studying and hates learning ninja techniques? Hell, this guy was not even familiar with the world "chakra." Instead he cheat his way in and steal the scroll for the multi shadow clone which jutsu he was just able to pull off because of his innate talent (fox powers with his dad's Yellow flash semen and her mother's continent-level chakra egg cell) and not because of fucking hard work. You know who worked harder than anyone else in this series? Rock fucking Lee who did not have any power at all and worked his way up by working very hard and training until his bones cracked.
The only stark difference between Naruto and Neji's ideals during the Tournament Arc was that, at the middle part of Shippuden, it proved that Naruto was spouting bullshit and that Neji was right, talent beats hard work. Who has the most chakra at his disposal wins the fight since they are the ones who can generate nuke-level powers. Neji's ideal is the real essence of Naruto. You're useless garbage if you don't have talent (strong genes, eye powers, tailed beast powers)
Bam the 25th Night and he thinks the shallow themes are what make the show good let’s just ignore all the bullshit and bad writing shall we
@@bayekofsiwa5847 that is the concept of show , whatever you just wrote is non sense
This video is the reason i love Naruto the anime and the character sooo much. Thank you for making the characterization more clear and giving your views on it
Wow, you really helped put it into perspective and appreciate and love the series even more. Thank you
This honestly does deserve more views, it's proabably the best dissection of naruto anyone could honestly make. 10/10.
It's not that Talk-no-jutsu is bad. I think it was handled well earlier in the series. But I think the writing got more rushed and it became less compelling and the dialogue was more stale. I think my favorite talk-no-jutsu was with Naruto and Zabuza. In defense of the final fight, I believe that was written well, too and I felt like Naruto genuinely convinced Sasuke that things could be better if he were to not be alone.
Nailed it!
My favorite talk no jutsu was with gaara.
Talk no jutsu is still bullshit
I like how on a small scale this also applies to Shikamaru in Part 1. His sexism is first validated with an easy victory over Kin, then challenged by Temari and ultimately disproven by him losing to Tayuya and then getting saved by Temari at the last moment.
It is also cool how even when he fights alone Narutos style basically simulates teamwork with his clones, plus the actual teamwork with his summons and Kurama.
I geuss sasuke was right about Naruto and shadow clone jutsu.
Its the jutsu that had covered up his loneliness. Sure there's the physical way because it makes tons of naruto's but there's also the mental way.
Naruto tried so hard to master that jutsu because it was the very jutsu that he felt aided in perpetuating his loneliness. He couldn't use it when everyone else in the academy could, and being that he was already an outcast having his peers look at his weak abilities as such made him feel even more lonely.
And yet the poetic justice in that jutsu is it has been used and is now always used to protect those dear to him. I mean remember the scene where naruto made the hand sign for it when all hope was lost against madara and Obito. And then the shinobi allied forces showed up.
Showing that naruto was no longer alone, he didn't have to rely on himself (or in the clones cases copies of himself) he had an army of friends and allies right behind him now.
2 years ago, I got mugged.
I had talk-no-jutsu’d the guy into returning my phone and wallet!!
It worked. The guy returned my valuables and told me, “I am not a bad guy. I am just hungry!”
Conclusion: Talk-no-juts works!!
Same thing happened to my friend!
My friend used talk no jutsu.
The mugger responded by shooting my friend 72 times in the chest.
I always want to use talk no jutso in thieves, but the fear of getting shot is greater haha
the thing is u should beat him before talking , so yeah this example isn't right . give one scene where naruto used directly talk no jutsu without a fight and it worked ? there is none
@@TENDECK great point 😂
proof that Talk No Jutsu doesn't always work. It's very possible for ppl to have a diplomatic discussion but the ppl involved in said discussion can still come off disagreeing with the things said
@@anass123ism good point
Villian: You all make me sick. I am going to burn you all.
Naruto: I feel you
Villian: bro ♥
My problem with Naruto is that they wasted great characters to develop the weird relationship of Sasuke and Naruto. All the great characters like Rock Lee, Orochimaru, Neji, Shino and more from part 1 wasted like dust.
Deathgun 2019 Yeah especially Shino like wtf happened to him
Don Nguyen After the chunin exams and Sasuke retrieval arc these characters had no direction. Kishi didn't know what to do with the characters he created.
Orochimaru was scattered throughout Part 2 so that's wrong.
sandmanofchaos After killing the third hokage in the first part especially turning Sasuke to a rogue ninja. You would think he would be a important character throughout part 2 but he turns into another side character.
It's such a weird flaw because every shounen does this. Basically introducing characters in new arcs and then tossing them aside later. It's such a weird situation that Kishimoto made these characters so likable that so many people don't realise that they (Lee, Neji etc) actually have the same level of relevance as someone like Vivi in One Piece or Lyon in Fairy Tail.
I guess the moral is don't make your side characters too good I guess?
I gotta say, as someone who fell out of Naruto during the Fourth Ninja War Arc and admittedly thought the series was becoming a waste of time, this video really got me reminiscing as to why I loved this show on the first place. I had nearly forgotten the brilliance in some of these fights and how much I used to love the talk no jutsu, even when everyone else was shitting on it. Great video and I can't wait to see the others.
Everything before the war was good, but the war.... well it really screwed the series over
It probably wouldn't have been as bad if Kaguya never happened.
the war was not that bad, it had flaws, but it has some of the greatest moments of naruto and is underrated
Jon Magician true like naruto and Sakura obsession for Sasuke, not destroying the rinnegan, calling Obito the coolest guy, Neji death, the defeat of Madara
@@MyLittleGreenHairdedMermaid no it didn't
Hey I just want to say , even after three years of this , you really helped me out with life , just off this video, was conflicted with a lot of shit mentally , and like a lot of us , we look up to naruto every so often , why would it be one of the most memorable anime’s out there if not . Just thank you for breaking it down and really driving in my head the examples and idealogical issues when confronting with life. I really appreciate you and because of you I’ll help others including you. Just thank you 😊.
Listen bro the way you explained everything in this video and in all your other exceptional videos is just amazing you just manage to find the words for what I feel but can't express and bring things that I wasn't even close to analyzing correctly even in my head regarding this amazing story I really thank you
To me this plays off the reliability of Naruto as I remember a time when I was on familiar downhill spiral in my life. Losing faith in the idea I had set up my life to be as at that time I had nor the willpower, nor the motivation to push my ideals of the optimistic mind set I had made for myself to follow. Soon I realized my laziness and boredom undermined the ideals I had strived to follow in my life which threw me into a depressive state. In which I hated everything about my life as instead of realizing my hypocrisy and then trying to better myself I went through a stage of self pity and regret. This in turn led to my downfall for a few years and it came at the possible worst time in my development as at this point I had run out of time to just rely purely on my mind for the ability to pass school. Because now I had to try harder putting in more effort and then I instead chose to try even less than before. This led even further points in my downfall with friends and family failing to connect with me on a emotional level as they either didn’t care enough to try and connect to me or did not know exactly how to connect with me. So over time as I thought more and more about my life I realized that no one else is to blame for my failure to be a hard working man and that I was to the one to be at fault. But at the time it did nothing to change my actions. Soon though when I had time to recuperate my thoughts during the summer I gained spikes of motivation through happy moments which in these moments I would think about self betterment and how to make myself a happier person. This led to instead of letting my family try and help me to me trying get help for myself getting a therapist and then through hard work I was able to rehabilitate making me a better person. Because now I actually began trying in life instead of letting it go past me.
Sorry for making my story really long and if it got somewhat sloppier a bit at the end because I’m tired and this is at 2 AM. But this story just shows the relatability of Naruto as the story of Naruto parallels my story in a way where it’s basic situations can compare to a normals persons emotions and situations. As if I were to be honest parts of Naruto led me to the conclusion of that I was the problem. I made sure to try my best and make sure the video sounds at least somewhat like the statements I made so you can think about the situations and maybe even compare them to your own. Sorry about dumping my emotional stuff into the comments it’s just that Naruto hits me in the feels when I compare it to my emotional points in my life and this video just hit me in a strong way when it was talking about the ideals of people and how they can be hypocrites at some points when it comes to their ideals. To say sorry one last time is that the whole story may just come off as edge and dumb but even though it may be that I’m happy you read so thank you.
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Sorry forgot to mention that this video is really well put together showing off how well the conflicts of Naruto bounce of each other and make a compelling story showing off each of the characters ideals and just how scary and real some of their thoughts might be. So just good job too!!
No I understand, I have been in a similar situation.
I can relate to Sasuke been in a similar situation only less deathly
It's why it feels weird understanding and feeling empathy with Sasuke.
While the entire fanbase is telling how worthless he is.
Could have used a 'Naruto' in my life.
Bad character: *about to do anything bad*
Naruto: no no bad
Bad character: oh sorry I’ll go now
Orange Moose egg well in the case of pain and obito, it was kind of after
Or they get stomped by Naruto and have no other choice but to listen
i cant stop laughing
@@callmejason3520 this really isn’t that funny
@@n0va436my sense of humor is just that low
This is such a wonderful video. Makes me respect Naruto (both the character and the series) even more than before
I think that the entire kakuzu moment is very interesting because it is essentially the only time that he went against his ideals and then Jiraiya dies, which could be seen as a consequence to him straying from his path
I first want to start off that I really appreciate all the receipts that are shown via clips from the show, all in Japanese so that it's possible to actually hear word-for-word what the characters said. Additionally, the persuasive tone I think was really effective, and I saw and noticed things about my own understanding and experience with Naruto that I hadn't before and I have this video to thank for that.
Now, tbh I don't outright disagree with the thesis behind this per se. Rather, it's the conclusion that I disagree with, that Kishimoto is a genius writer. Specifically, I'm assuming that the conclusion is that the decisions and methods that he chose to display these ideological battles shows his High tier level as an author. I disagree. The issue that has become more clear to me after watching this is that Kishimoto intentionally puts Naruto's ideals on a pedestal, I'm assuming because he shares them.
After watching this, I'm convinced that in the instances you mentioned (Neji, Nagato, Obito), there was some underlying hypocrisy, as you so succinctly put it, in each of the antagonist's flaws. But that said, I want to emphasize that the their losses (particularly Neji's) had a lot to do with their own fallacies, rather than Naruto's rock-solid ideology (which obv was not so rock-solid initially). Does this mean that Naruto had nothing to do with changing their minds? No, BUT I feel like Naruto gets unjustly rewarded for 'winning' these ideological arguments. Probably the most infuriating one being Nagato's death, and the resurrection of everybody who died during his attack. Naruto (the show) had its lackluster moments before this, but I would argue that they were overshadowed by the engaging story and the focus on a smaller cast of characters. This decision that Kishimoto made was, imo, his first big mistake, and should have been my first clue about what kind of writer he is. The Naruto vs. Nagato discussion was significant because Naruto still did not have a definitive answer to the problem Nagato saw about the cycle of hatred, prompting him to hold convictions that would allow him to reach Sasuke later on down the road. But initially, Naruto chose not to kill Nagato as one of the early steps to stop contributing to the cycle of vengeance all shinobi had contributed to. This is impactful bc there were REAL CONSEQUENCES to this type of decision. People would die and not be avenged, people who were murderers would be allowed amicability, and wars against other nations would be discarded in favor of a pacifist stance. We can see that this was the line of thinking Naruto got to, bc when dealing with Sasuke's spiral into murder later, Naruto asked his friends, who could no longer let Sasuke's actions go in good conscience, to let Naruto deal with Sasuke. When Omoi and Karui came to get info out of Naruto, Naruto chooses the pacifist route and refuses to engage in a fight (which would only add to the list of actions that could be avenged). This path he chose had consequences. The decision to not fight in a world that was built fundamentally on the idea that you needed to fight and kill to survive and protect things important to you would have major fallout. But nobody would know it by the fact that everyone comes back to life after Nagato dies. Naruto's ideals are just that strong. Intentionally or no, this turn of events rewards Naruto's ideology and punishes Nagato's, literally by giving life to Naruto's friends and taking Nagato's. Rather than showcasing the flaw in Nagato's worldview, the focus shifts to how much better Naruto's is, which I think is a much more shallow portrayal to decide to execute. It's re-framing Naruto into a savior role, as life is bestowed to his friends because his choice is supposedly the more righteous one.
In contrast, Naruto and Sasuke's story, I think, is the most fulfilling and engaging ideological discussion in the show. Mainly because it strays away from focusing too much on competing ideologies, like what happened with Nagato. Yes, there are ideological differences between Sasuke and Naruto on the surface, but in reality, Sasuke was unable to fully cut off the connection he had with Team 7. More to the point of this though, Naruto tries desperately to UNDERSTAND Sasuke. To know what he's going through and to know why and how Sasuke made the decisions he did. Once he does that, now Naruto can stand on the same playing field, to discuss idealogies with him. However, I would argue, that it isn't Naruto's ideology that wins over Sasuke in the end, but rather, Sasuke's own reciprocal bond with Naruto stimulated by Naruto's blunt declaration of empathy towards Sasuke. Naruto's strength in conviction plays a role initially, but his loyalty to Sasuke is what confuses him prompting Sasuke to grill Naruto about where this fits into his ideology. To Sasuke, the punishment for possessing the losing ideology is death. One of them needs to die. To Naruto though, it's not all about the ideology. He says that he feels pain when he sees Sasuke try and bear everything on his own, finally reaching him. At this point, Sasuke is already well-versed in discussion about worldviews (since he's changed his like five times at this point), but when faced with simple, straightforward, sincere, and true empathy, that's what prompts him to reconsider his path. What makes this work is that the crux of the battle IS 'the power of friendship' in a way. The focus is less so (but not nonexistent) on how there's a flaw in Sasuke's worldview and how Naruto is basically God so his view is de facto better, but rather on how Naruto's empathy towards Sasuke is more important. That's what tips the scales in Naruto's favor, and is a much better display of Kishimoto's ability.
There's more I want to say (haven't even touched on Neji and Obito), but this is already too long, and these were kinda the biggest takeaways I got after finishing the video.
TL;DR Kishimoto shouldn't focus too much on ideologies. While the ideologies are cool, Naruto becomes more of a vessel for Kishimoto's views than an individual character who must bear consequences for his worldview (Neji's death was fine and all, but this has its own problems in Neji's storyline than in Naruto's). Besides, Kishimoto's 'power of friendship' theme is more compelling in some instances anyways. BTW, great video.
Glad to hear I wasn't the only one who picked that up between How Naruto and Sasuke operate.
And how and why it eventually went doen the way it did.
Thanks for putting it into words.
Edit: and something I almost forgot about.
Kishimoto doesn't use Naruto as a vessel for his ideology.
Because he actually agrees with Sasuke and said would do the same in his position.
So he shares more with his ideology even blaming Naruto for not understanding Sasuke better.
And not verbatim he said also something along the lines of, this is still a shonen series, for explaining why he made certain story decisions and it had to be uplifting and sorts.
The thing that you missed in your analysis of the Naruto and Nagato debate is that it's really not about who has the best ideology.
One of the very strongest theme of Naruto is Heritage, the herited will of fire from Konoha that was build with the hope of a world at peace.
This will was carried on through generation and Jiraya was one of the strongest holder of that will.
Naruto and Nagato were both disciple of Jiraya, and Nagato claimed that what he wanted to do was what Jiraya really wanted, but after Naruto "talk no jutsued" him, he realized that he was completely wrong, and a detail that plenty of people have forgotten is what Nagato said just before reviving all the people he killed in the village : "that's the least i can do for the damage i caused", which were the exact same words than Jiraya when he decided to teach Nagato Yahiko and Konan the ninjutsu for repayment of all the destruction Konoha had done to their country. By doing that Nagato comes back to the real heritage of Jiraya one last time to help Naruto building the better future they all wanted.
Also, Jiraya wasn't revived so it's really not like there was no big consequence, him alone staying dead is far more than enough to be a big sacrifice to endure for Naruto.
The point is that it's also very important to show that if you stay truth to your nindo and never comes back on your word, like Naruto and Jiraya did, to find peace, there will be good consequence at one moment. Naruto having stayed true to his heritage and having not attacked Nagato, the reviving of the dead was a very good way to show a reward for that.
Woah
You absolute mad man you did it
You articulated all thoughts
Thank you
@@SuperBallani very specific point there. i never thought of that. if only you can do bunshin and reply to these people who absurdly demoralize nagato's decision to revive them as a form of none sense.
I haven't watched an actual episode of naruto in awhile. I just look up theroy videos, crack videos, or anything else. But watching this made me realize what I felt watching the original naruto. It makes me want to fully watch it again. So thank you.
Same here
I love this video so much. Thank you for the effort put in to dissecting Naruto's character and ideology!
This was a fantastic dissection of Naruto's storyline and ideas. Intelligent justification of talk no Justu; congratulations u changed my mind about talk no justsu being silly and I thank u for it.
I personally thought the fight with kakuzu was a way for naruto to begin to understand sasuke like he failed to do so in the past. Like you said naruto when he tried to retrieve sasuke never really tried to understand him, more so forcefully bringing him back without acknowledging his side. So by rejecting the help of his comrades which was the path he always took, he instead went down the path sasuke choice by rejecting bonds and attaining power by himself. By doing so he gained a deeper understand of sasukes path by experiencing it himself however little it might be. This is just my thoughts and I could be wrong.
Tfw LadyChiyo is a Baby Boomer.
That's exactly what I thought lmao. That's a social commentary if I ever saw one. The same thing probably happens in real Japan which is probably why Kishimoto added that.
SynysterDawn what does that mean?
This is as simply as I can put it: Baby Boomer's were born roughly between the 1940's and 1970's and caused a huge spike in the US population because people were marrying at a younger age, wanted to start a family, and were generally hopeful about the future. This sudden and large increase in population was followed by an economic upturn that improved the standard of living pretty much everywhere. They reaped the benefits of a booming economy then subsequently destroyed it by habitually cutting their own taxes and needlessly borrowing more and more money, among other things, and are now blaming future generations despite them simply being born into their mess with far fewer opportunities. It's why you see think-piece articles about how "Millennials are destroying X business" as if they're maliciously targeting X business, when in reality Millennials just don't have the money to spend on whatever X business has to offer like the Boomers did.
Oh ok. Thank you. I actually learned something today.
Skeith
You’re probably right, in that it tends to happen with one previous generation for the newer one
JUST AMAZING! Congratulations for the hard work and the wonderful video!
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True, i was feeling too that Obito wanted to confirm his ideology through Naruto, like Naruto is the last "test" for Obito to be convinced by his own choices/ideology
It maked Obito appeared a little more human, and not the Madara’s monster
I am glad someone else gets it. its not just a talk no jutsu its the running theme of the naruto series of self fulfillment nd self evaluation which is a theme that ran from the beginning with Indra and asura all the way into naruto and sasuke. both side have strong resolve to believe there motives and approach being right bt what wins out is the will ENDURE through the suffering and remain true to yourself, as stated by hashirama and the last few lines of the show by Sasuke, "shinobi r those who endure"!
Lots of shinobis endure but most of them die since they don’t have plot armour
Your taking this too deep when it isn't lol
Cool guy it’s called Stockholm syndrome
Wait people dislike Talk no Jutsu?? I like talk no jutsu!!
Well sometimes It's good
But most of the times It's just stupid.
For an example Nagato, He was right. The world shall know the pain because Leaf Village really deserve because of Danzo and others. But of course Talk No Jutsu always have to work, because yeah *friendship*
KnuckSon Agreed. Nagato was speaking straight facts!!!
@@osc-oldschoolclips5204 thanks
@@knuckson8304 aside from nagato being 100% right , I just hate the fact that he had done all of this , fuked the village up , killed hella a lot , was drove by vengeance ,hatred and revenge through those years . But here naruto changes his whole ideology in a matter of minutes which had happened with other villains than nagato . It kinda pisses me off .
@@mahmoudsameh3219 I know right ?
Gaara was a scary villain not because of his abilities or talent, but because of his ideology.
"Naruto" as a series had the power to immerse me and make me vulnerable and emotional. And that's enough for me, as far as art goes.