@@Sornemus That didnt have to do with intelligence. Because he hated Zeke so much, he had a low opinion of him as a person. He felt zeke was full of shit so he underestimated his determination.
@@ljeans531 gonna have to disagree here. Levi not more than what 3 hours prior threw like 4-5 thunder spears at zeke in his titans nape and it didn’t kill him. What the hell is 1 thunder spear gonna do? Nothing as literally both of them survive the explosion. And zeke regenerates so why the fuck wouldn’t he go for the pseudo kamikaze. Levi would’ve been perfectly fine by continuously chopping his limbs off. The thunder spear was completely unnecessary, except to serve as zeke’s escape
Cannon being “anti Eren” and Carter becoming a Jeagerist it’s hilarious, we really got both sides, love this! Can’t wait for tomorrow, one of my favorites
@@CarterAndrus are you a manga reader? either way eren's true motive for the rumbeling was stated in the one hour special "when i knew humanity stil existe outside the walls i was disapointed, i wanted to wipe it all away. i'm sorry" this is eren's ugly truth finaly exposed without all the premade excuses. i know it's hard to accept but eren was always unhinged since day one we were just in denial just like mikasa and armin
Levi is such a tragic character. He is overpowered but yet he can't save any of his comrades. Almost everyone that has been around him his entire life has died, but not him. He has witnessed the most horrible things one could imagine but he still never gives up. Goated character.
I really don't get why so many people hate Levi. People complain that he's overrated. Well he's actually one of the most underestimated and criticised characters in the fandom. And I don't see overrated as a valid reason to hate a character.
I couldn't watch that scene again where his comrades became titans, it's so stressful! 😢 Levi's mental strength has always been admirable throughout the story.
@@bunchberry9957 He's underrated because people think he's overrated. Like on surface level, he's an epic dude that obliterates titans, but he's actually a very deep character who went through a lot, compared to even Eren.
I always find this episode so funny because Eren is such a strategic mastermind in his encounter with Armin and Mikasa. He knows well he could never beat Mikasa in a physical fight, and he could never beat Armin in a battle of wits. So he instead argues with Mikasa and beats up Armin. What a clever bastard
Damn bro that's crazy, this is totally the first time I've seen this comment and I've literally never seen it plastered on literally every social media or forum relating to AoT. Eren is goated for this, you've changed my entire life with this my dude.
For those wondering why Levi didn't kill Zeke. Not only do they potentially lose another titan to Marley, but Zeke is the key to activating the rumbling. Without a titan of royal blood Paradis can't activate the rumbling anymore. Remember the current plan is for Historia to inherit the Beast Titan.
Well, not entirely true. They just need any titan with royal blood line - so mindless-titan-Historia would also work, apparently. In any case, it is not bound to Beast titan, it is just the royal blood + being titan. Thought it is not guaranteed that it can use Founder's powers without limits - because Historia is from royal family's branch that pledged a vow renouncing war, so they cannot wish to "free Paradis" at all. Zeke thought, is from royal family's part that stayed on continent, so his branch is not bound by this vow. The show, sadly, never stated if there is any such difference at all. Everyone (both Eren and Levi/Hange/Co) just didn't want to use Historia in such a way - so they all were determined to only go with Zeke's option.
@@Sornemus The vow renouncing war would affect anyone from the royal family using the founding titan. Zeke would have been bound by the vow too if he'd had the founding titan. The show explains later how he got around that. Yes Historia as a mindless titan would work, however they wouldn't be able to transform her into one until she gives birth, or the royal bloodline would be completely gone and it obviously means condemning her to death.
Zeke's tone whenever he's fighting against Levi is honestly so funny. It's like both piss pants terrified and "why won't you die why is it always you I'm so tired."
@@Kilimanjarooo stop pretending to be dense. He's an extremist and effectively a Satanist. He's still that coward but now with too much power to bully and kill whoever he wants.
I just appreciate Armin every time I watch the table scene. He's so protective of Mikasa that he's willing to fight _Eren._ We all need a best friend like Armin 😔 Edit: Also the "who's the slave that bows to a bastard again?" Lmfao Armin Arlert, even though gets beaten to pulp, will always have the last laugh 😂💀
Levi has witnessed countless deaths of his friends & comrades. Levi’s level of brutality is a reflection of his rage towards Zeke, who was responsible for so many of those deaths and Especially for Erwin’s.
Season 1: "I'm a monster, but she has nothing to do with that!" Season 2: "I'll wrap that scarf around you as many times as you want." Season 4: "You guys are important to me. More than anyone else." Also Season 4: "I've always hated you." One of these things does not match the other, one of these things just doesn't belong
@@ViewOf I kinda can see what you’re saying but just because they’d “hate” him doesn’t mean they’d stay out of the conflict entirely and not fight. They’re soldiers. Also Eren had no problem involving them in the conflict in Marley, so why would he change his tune all of a sudden?
I know the part you’re talking about but I don’t think those are tears. Those just look like a typical glare drawn onto eyes. I feel like if Eren were actually crying they’d draw more attention to it, to make it obvious.
Eren's entire conversation with Mikasa and Armin felt like it was a lie but mixed in with the truth. Ackermans do have a free will and the ability to choose what they do and do not. They control their own freedom, we know this because of what Kenny and his grandpa said back in season 3. "The king fears us Ackermans. Why? Because he can't control us, the Ackerman defied whatever the royal decicded to do with the eldians, that's why we are being persecuted." There were also hints all the way back from season 1 of Armin kinda liking Annie which also writes off the statement that "Bertholdt" was in Armin's head and manipulating him. Last episode in the conversation between Yelena and Pyxis, Pyxis said this "The most convincing lie has a pinch of truth mixed in it."
Honestly the fact that you got the two people who haven't watched the series have conflicting viewpoints on how the show should proceed shows how incredible the writing is. At the end of the day, there is no "wrong" or "right" answer in the decisions and viewpoints that these characters have. They're at war, and they're doing the best they can to stick to the beliefs they have, whether it be for humanity that they know, or humanity that they don't know. Personally, I stopped being team Eren when he beat up Armin and called Mikasa a slave. However I completely understand why people would stand with him 100%. At the end of the day, morals are extremely subjective. As much as we'd like to believe they're inherit or at least learned through our teachers, morals are something that have to be constantly questioned. And that's one of the main highlights of this manga/show. There's no such thing as black and white in morality. Finding your shade of gray is what makes an individual figure out what to fight for.
Agreed! Best way to word it really. Really love this gang- the different opinions and the contrast in reactions. They're kinda arguing a bit at the end and I feel sorry for laughing 🤭😅. It's okay guys, that's just what the show does. Ps. I had similar thoughts with you Cannon at this point of the show. ☺️
Interesting, but I disagree. We start from two realities: Objective is that which we cannot deny and that regardless of whether we understand it or not, it will affect us all equally, just as gravity does with us, no matter if we are good or bad gravity exists and affects us equally. Subjective is that which is proper to the subject, they are points of view that may well differ from those of other people or not, but even so, they do not affect the objectivity of the object in question, in other words, my subjective opinion will not affect the existing reality of the object. Objective truths are undeniable truths, which even by attempting to deny them you actually deny your assertion, such as the statement "There is no truth". Morality is objective, the way in which people have applied it is subjective. Subjective morality poses the ignorance of objective rules. Each human being is free to dictate his own rules of behavior, therefore, there are no moral or immoral people. For example: We are wrong if we believe that torturing puppies for fun is a morally wrong act. For in such an action there is no objective property that tells us precisely that it is immoral.
Genocide is never morally acceptable, but then again Eren doesn't concern himself with such things because his main concern is survival and freedom, not a moral high ground. He accepted the people he is going to kill are mostly innocent like the fez kid, but he needs to become a devil to archive his goals, its the fate he has resigned himself to be. In short, is Eren morally right? No. Is he justified? That depends on how far you are comfortable with atrocities that benefit you.
The arguments about ideology these boys are having are so emblematic of the whole fandom when this first came up, and we're watching reddit arguments unfold in real time. It's so cool to watch lol
Isayama the author said he wanted to see how viewers would react to a protagonist who is a good person first but later starts doing bad things. I think he wanted to see if the viewers can see the person’s action apart from the person himself.
in the manga we learn at this time that the ackerman have the power of a titan in them except that they do not transform, this explain their strength. I don't understand why they forgot such important information 🥹
its like what levi said, he either dont know what is right and who is right, we all just moving forward and fight for the best. everybody has their own believe. everytime i've seen the pov someone, 100% i do understand the reasons why they're doing it. they are always have something to fight for
True, my headcannon is that the reason Armin is the only one besides Reiner that know Berthodlt have a feeling for Annie is because Armin also have feeling for Annie, so when Armin was about to stare at Annie, ofc he will notice Bertholdt also staring at her.
Nah bro while I could see that interaction being built ito something its not enough imo to be in love. Also after seeing all Annie did as the female titan that should destroy most feelings for her imo.
@@joshuawalters7520 I mean, it’s definitely hinted that Annie had much more compassion towards armin, compared to anyone else. If anyone else was in armins position, fighting the female titan, Annie would have killed them. She couldn’t bring herself to kill armin in that moment
This levi fanboys are annoying asf. Want to imagine him in every other situations and scene. I know ur fav is a big hot shot in this story but without eren this island and levi had no further future, so stop bulls**tting around.
Watching this is so weird to me, because when i was watching it for the first time it was so obvious to me that Eren was lying to distance himself from them so they wouldn't suffer. Like throughout the first 3 seasons haven't we seen enough to know he cares so much? In this season, he literally said they are important to him more than anything. It was so obvious, I thought everyone would understand it when they first watched it. I really love Eren, more than any other character, so this conflict was so hard to watch. I don't think there are right or wrong sides, but at this point in the show i used to think that they were being too passive for people who want freedom until Eren actually made a move.
One moment that I thought was important from season 1 is when Eren learns the lesson from the female titan chase through the forest- trusting your comrades gets them killed and he needs to take the moment into his own hands and fight for himself. He regrets so much that he didn’t transform in time to help Levi squad fight. I feel like that moment helped me understand or at least grapple w his mindset this season. But wow I hated him saying that to mikasa and armin, but especially to mikasa. To strip someone of their humanity completely and insult them like that is insane. I personally think mikasa still has agency and isn’t completely controlled by the Ackerman thing, sheesh! Love watching you guys, totally brightens up my morning! I feel for u cannon! This part of the show is so painful!
Zeke will say later on that the Ackerman thing is not a disease but just really strong love, so Mikasa surely had her agency. Also, Levi wouldn't be able to let Erwin die if he was completely controlled by that.
@@districtskz from official guidebook Attack on Titan ANSWERS (p.168) - Huh!? (Shocked) This part hasn’t even been drawn in the story!! So the liege of Mikasa is Eren, and by the same logic, Kenny’s is Uri… Isayama: "For Levi, that person is Erwin, whose existence exceeds that of Levi’s own. But is it acknowledgement as much as it's due to the Ackerman bloodline? I would say it's probably instinctual."
I can say this because they have finished the show, but you can see the pain in erens eyes at points when beating armin, he is setting something in motion im sure, I wonder if it will have to do with the next part or if it was just to start the rumbling
It's because he's in love with Mikasa and Armin is his best friend, and one of the main reasons he does it is them. In the finale everyone will understand everything there
@@CrownNdWealth I already read the manga, but it doesn't make sense to pull a Lelouch if he actually killed majority of the world's population 🤣 Lelouch painted himself as a villain, but there were lots of living witnesses to vouch for what really happened
@@zekie106 huh? Eren just wiped out 80% of the world, everyone sees him as the devil of eldia and he absolutely is the villain of the world, and eldians from paradis stopped him. AND if the rest of the world didn't care and still wanted to attack paradis they can't because of eren wiping out all their militaries, he was their scapegoat who also gave the world time to actually think and not retaliate instantly. Please, reading comprehension is not that hard.
6:00 Eren looks like he's about to cry here. you know sometimes when you're mad and at the same time holding back your tears 'cause you actually feel miserable but you don't want to admit it.
I like the 1 episode format with lots of discussions after, cause this season is where things get real murky with everyone's loyalties and motivations. Keep it going guys!
Its so funny to watch the after episode discussion...because you guys are exactly what happened to the fandom (except you are talking to each other in nice way and try to prove your point with normal facts and not with insults) :DD DAMN tho, it is interesting to watch how Isayama brought politics into the show and ideology that is very on the edge and suddenly people that were behind one banner suddenly were torn apart and fight each other who is right
omg Cannon’s right, finally someone get Eren’s Actions! he’s a slave to freedom and wanted to be freed. the ending of the Manga realistically makes sense!
its so cool seeing this guys literally going through it. Around this part of the anime, the fanbase that have been with each other for so long start turning against each other. and you are literally representing that perfectly
Eren knew he can’t beat Armin with words and that he can’t beat Mikasa in a fight. So he chose to argue with Mikasa and beat the crap out of Armin instead. Dude’s a mega genius Chad.
@@seancarroll5803 not really, its only mentioned when people talk about this specific episode, its not like those petra x tree jokes where that has been said everywhere
I went from not liking cannon to liking him the most, dude is just me in s4😭. Also Levi Man, Despite being an overpowered character he is just goated. He lost his mother, his friends, his uncle, his squad, his comrades and then Erwin and dude is still standing like a Man. And Just like cannon said his loyalty towards Erwin is just 🐐. His mental strength is just crazyy to me.
Brig, Levi cant just kill Zeke!!! Without Zekes royal blood there will be no Rumbling and without Rumbling the island is doomed which would mean that everything Levi had to go through will be meaningless. Plot holes that big doesn't exist lmao.
Expressions in this series always has meanings to me, Especially Eren’s… When Hanes and Sasha got killed he laughed, and this is an extreme way to show how someone can handle something that he has trouble accepting. So he distance hisself from the fear or pain of the circumstance by laughing it off. In the manga when Eren killed the civilians in Marely his face shows how he really feels about what he has done, he knew that this is the only way and it has to be done like that, but nevertheless it goes against his nature. In this episode sadness is drawn in his face, he knew what he was going to say to them even before they started talking, and he knew what is the outcome of it.
I despise Floch, because he didn’t need to do that. I think Eren has a lot on his shoulders and wants to protect everyone that is dear to him, so he will be the slave so his friends can be free
You inherit memories. Not feelings. Armin and Annie had a bond since the beginning, so when Eren pushes the whole "You're now Bertholdt" thing, it's just a flat out lie.
Bro what Cannon said is literally how I felt after finishing the aot manga. Bro is one of the only people I can agree with on attack on titan because anyone else is blinded by their love for Eren even though what he did is so incredibally morally wrong
Armin had this idea when he was younger that in order to win, there has to be some monster that is willing to sacrifice anything. Floch and Eren are this idea elevated to the absolute. For some reason, people love to simplify everything: this group of people is good cos they are protecting island, this group of people is bad cos they are trying to stop them. It was this simple only at the begining, but it is much more layered and complicated now. Moreover, show criticises this way of thinking, Eren still chooses to see everything like it's black and white (or, it's more accurate to say that he acts as if the world was black and white), it's easier. That way there is a simple solution to everything. But, since world is not black and white, it doesn't solve anything, the destruction and more suffering is the main result. I believe this message to be the main reason this show even exists
I think it's pretty clear that Eren already understands that the world isn't black and white. Especially when you look at the newest episode, he's extremely conflicted morally but knows that there is no perfect choice to make. Eren has always prioritized freedom and his loved ones, and the only option that both keeps them free and ensures their safety is the rumbling. From the Mikasa backstory we know Eren will take freedoms from others if his own is threatened. To him, the euthanization plan is unjust, as the only ones who end up with consequences are the Eldians (when they lose their right to reproduce and exist in the future). Why should Eldians be punished when the Marleyans have been oppressing them for so long? Eren also sees Paradis government's inaction as a slow death. Though they have the best morals, they don't actually have a solution and nothing gets solved. Eldians staying on the island isn't what he wants either. Because of Armin, Eren wants to go and see the world. To Eren, the plan of staying on the island and using the rumbling as a threat will never make Eldians truly free and essentially just traps them in a cage. By this logic there's no way to make Eldians free, besides the rumbling. The show critiques racism, war, and fascism really well. Isayama shows how easy the road to radicalization and violence really is. It's no ones fault that they are in the situation they are in; Eren killed thousands because Reiner killed thousands. Reiner killed thousands because he was brainwashed by ideologies ingrained into him as a kid by Marleyans. Marleyans are like this because they were also taught this by their ancestors. Their ancestors think this way because they lived through Eldian oppression. This can be traced forever into the past. "We gotta get the children out of that forest at the very least. Or else... We would just keep on circling around the same place. That's why, it is the burden of us adults to shoulder the sins and hatred of the past". To end the cycle of hatred and violence we must learn to forgive, or else we will keep passing the hatred and trauma to future generations again.
@@asc_1949 Eren knows the world is complicated, hence I said "he acts as if it was black and white". "I wanted to save Eldia, BUT there is more. When I learned there were people outside of the walls, I was disappointed. I was so disappointed, I wanted to wipe it all out". He is irritated that the world is too complicated. That there are no objectively bad enemies he can wipe out to obtain freedom like before. Rumbling is just that - an easy solution. The only thing he can and always could do - is destroy in order to obtain this fake "freedom". In fact, it was made pretty clear that all people are already free. Even though Reiner was "brainwashed", he chose to proceed with the mission in order to achieve his dream of becoming a hero even after realising how horrible his actions are. Even though Erwin was led by his dream to know the truth, he chose to discard it in order to do the right thing. Everyone can make a choice that impacts their story. Eren wants different freedom - he wants a freedom obtained from destroying the one, who is restricting him. People outside restrict him from experiencing an empty, "free" world. Ofcourse the other main reason he did the rumbling was to protect his friends. It doesn't make it the right choice. It doesn't fix anything, it only destroys things and shrinks the world down to 1 island, where there is still enough space for hatred
every time Zeke realises that Levi still exists, his reaction always cracks me up ! 😂 being caught up with the show makes this episode a bit more bearable to watch because i hated it so much (though today it is painful to watch for different reasons we are aware of now) and every emotional reaction Cannon had was so relatable 😭 in the next videos, even when he blinks i’m sure i will be like ‘SAME’ um... omg, doesn't matter what we know today, this episode still leaves me speechless, i can't believe it. everytime i try to think of something to say, the clown emoji keeps popping up on every character's face, especially those guys who volunteered to beat up Keith Shadis. seriously... clowns everywhere, except Eren of course... that mastermind puppet master...💔
he is a slave to the emotions he felt when that titan ate his mother. He saw it and since then he will do anything to destroy those who are responsible for it
@@hgo6000 Eren was in the wrong, and Armin was in the right in that scene. Eren was demonstrating emotional immaturity, thinking that saying the "true" thing is better than saying the "right" thing. Its not about whether what he has said to mikasa and armin is true or not, it was that he was burning the bridges between him and mikasa/armin, the two people that stuck with him the most. Armin punched eren on behalf of mikasa, both hurt and betrayed by Eren.
@@hgo6000 Yes if the circumstances are "normal" like in a bar and someone antagonizes you, but not in extraordinary circumstances like this show, where the stakes are terrifyingly high, you are a military personnel, and the person who u thought was your friend is also an insurgency leader who has just brought his troops to you.
Eren was telling facts and speaking honestly about how he feels. Armin resorted to shouting, attempting to silence Eren, and violence. Armin, who's always pro-dialogue, even with murderers who've killed thousands of people. Armin, who has once said to his childhood bullies: "you're resorting to violence because you can't win an argument". The one who's immature here is Armin. Eren is closer to Armin's ideals in this episode, because he at least tried to talk things out, even though he didn't have to.
I really like Carter's way of thinking and how he doesn't form his opinion based purely on emotions and tries to see the bigger picture. That's the right way to watch this show and understand characters' actions, and it will be rewarded by it. That's kinda the thing with Yeagerists as well. Most people just immediately start hating them just because they oppose most main characters, without seeing that their only goal and everything they're doing is to protect the island and their people from being exterminated by the outside world
13:43 i still remember how this episode cut off here(because translation in japan cut off and we here got it translated only from translations)and i thought it was full episode cause it was fine of an ending
Season 1 Studio Gek: five wholesome bros getting hyped for epic anime
Season 4 Studio Gek: Jaegerist bros vs Anti-Jaegerist bros
who is jaegerist?
😂😂😂
So true, that was the whole arc for us this season.
@@sn.9057 yeah who are jeagerists?Is it Brig?
I think carter McKay and brig are jaegerists
Levi really deserves the title Humanity's Strongest Soldier because his mental strength is amazing. 😭
Not the smartest one, though, as we would witness in the end of next episode :D
True, all he went thru, losing his friends and he still there.
@@Sornemus That didnt have to do with intelligence. Because he hated Zeke so much, he had a low opinion of him as a person. He felt zeke was full of shit so he underestimated his determination.
He might just be my favorite character
@@ljeans531 gonna have to disagree here. Levi not more than what 3 hours prior threw like 4-5 thunder spears at zeke in his titans nape and it didn’t kill him. What the hell is 1 thunder spear gonna do? Nothing as literally both of them survive the explosion. And zeke regenerates so why the fuck wouldn’t he go for the pseudo kamikaze. Levi would’ve been perfectly fine by continuously chopping his limbs off. The thunder spear was completely unnecessary, except to serve as zeke’s escape
Cannon being “anti Eren” and Carter becoming a Jeagerist it’s hilarious, we really got both sides, love this! Can’t wait for tomorrow, one of my favorites
I’m just too loyal to eren I still can’t believe he’s the antagonist😭 I have a theory cookin tho….
@@CarterAndrus are you a manga reader? either way eren's true motive for the rumbeling was stated in the one hour special "when i knew humanity stil existe outside the walls i was disapointed, i wanted to wipe it all away. i'm sorry" this is eren's ugly truth finaly exposed without all the premade excuses. i know it's hard to accept but eren was always unhinged since day one we were just in denial just like mikasa and armin
@@kikima258 we also learn that there was a second stage to his plan, read the last chapter and you'll know. hint, it's got a little lelouch to it
I read the “anti Eren” part of this comment exactly when Cannon said it.
@@CarterAndrus he's not the antagonist wtf he's still The protagonist
Levi is such a tragic character. He is overpowered but yet he can't save any of his comrades. Almost everyone that has been around him his entire life has died, but not him. He has witnessed the most horrible things one could imagine but he still never gives up. Goated character.
I really don't get why so many people hate Levi. People complain that he's overrated. Well he's actually one of the most underestimated and criticised characters in the fandom. And I don't see overrated as a valid reason to hate a character.
I couldn't watch that scene again where his comrades became titans, it's so stressful! 😢 Levi's mental strength has always been admirable throughout the story.
Everyone has a skill issue, and Levi is just goat
@@bunchberry9957 because those fucking PPL who are saying underated . They don't respect each characters
@@bunchberry9957 He's underrated because people think he's overrated. Like on surface level, he's an epic dude that obliterates titans, but he's actually a very deep character who went through a lot, compared to even Eren.
The look of disbelief on Levi’s face when he saw Zeke running. He was like “how many times do I have to teach you this lesson”
“Old man!”
He’s like .
“You know your not going to escape. Right?”
with that look he said "oh, for f*cks sake, this guy doing this AGAIN?"
@@liloisreal2129 "I understood that reference! 🫵🙂"
@liloisreal2129 thank you 😪
I always find this episode so funny because Eren is such a strategic mastermind in his encounter with Armin and Mikasa. He knows well he could never beat Mikasa in a physical fight, and he could never beat Armin in a battle of wits. So he instead argues with Mikasa and beats up Armin. What a clever bastard
Armin is an idiot. He is a waste character in season 4
That’s y hes the goat 🗣️🗣️
I've never saw it that way 🤯
Yeap and prior to that he emotionally gaslight them to have doubt.
Damn bro that's crazy, this is totally the first time I've seen this comment and I've literally never seen it plastered on literally every social media or forum relating to AoT. Eren is goated for this, you've changed my entire life with this my dude.
6:02 Cannon is a genius. He called eren was a slave to freedom.
For those wondering why Levi didn't kill Zeke. Not only do they potentially lose another titan to Marley, but Zeke is the key to activating the rumbling. Without a titan of royal blood Paradis can't activate the rumbling anymore. Remember the current plan is for Historia to inherit the Beast Titan.
THIS! I think Brig forgot about this for a sec. 😅
Yeah almost like putting a thunder spear in his abdomen when he couldn't transform or do anything anyway was counter intuitive in the first place
Well, not entirely true. They just need any titan with royal blood line - so mindless-titan-Historia would also work, apparently. In any case, it is not bound to Beast titan, it is just the royal blood + being titan.
Thought it is not guaranteed that it can use Founder's powers without limits - because Historia is from royal family's branch that pledged a vow renouncing war, so they cannot wish to "free Paradis" at all. Zeke thought, is from royal family's part that stayed on continent, so his branch is not bound by this vow.
The show, sadly, never stated if there is any such difference at all.
Everyone (both Eren and Levi/Hange/Co) just didn't want to use Historia in such a way - so they all were determined to only go with Zeke's option.
Wrong, they don’t want to sacrifice her.
@@Sornemus The vow renouncing war would affect anyone from the royal family using the founding titan. Zeke would have been bound by the vow too if he'd had the founding titan. The show explains later how he got around that.
Yes Historia as a mindless titan would work, however they wouldn't be able to transform her into one until she gives birth, or the royal bloodline would be completely gone and it obviously means condemning her to death.
I love how Gabi kept saying “ILL KILL THAT EREN JEAGER!” And then he’s there and she’s just petrified as hell
Well, if he treats his friends like that...
@@IvyHilts 🤣😂🤣
Ikr it’s like so where did all that confidence about killing Eren go lmao.
How could she not?
She is in front of The Founding+Warhammer+Attack Titan, The Colosal Titan & an Ackerman. She'd wish she invicible there...
@@ozielka3157 U forgot the Drip titan
Zeke's tone whenever he's fighting against Levi is honestly so funny. It's like both piss pants terrified and "why won't you die why is it always you I'm so tired."
Props to Cannon for realizing what Floch really is. They ain't here for freedom, they're just on a power trip lmao.
WRONG! Floch is a HERO who fights for Eldia no matter what... a true nationalist. Hail King Floch.
@@Kilimanjarooo stop pretending to be dense. He's an extremist and effectively a Satanist. He's still that coward but now with too much power to bully and kill whoever he wants.
About Armin being a slave due to memories. If that's true, how can Eren confidently state he's free when he has the memories of 3 different titans?
Eren is the God of titans
Coz eren is not in love with a girl who he has no relation like armin and annie
Because Eren is self aware of that fact while Armie wasn't
@@SHISH_STYLE No, it's because
Spoiler?
it's not true lmao
@@districtskz ppl talk a lot and read too little
I just appreciate Armin every time I watch the table scene. He's so protective of Mikasa that he's willing to fight _Eren._ We all need a best friend like Armin 😔
Edit: Also the "who's the slave that bows to a bastard again?" Lmfao Armin Arlert, even though gets beaten to pulp, will always have the last laugh 😂💀
so true. when they started arguing that armin punched first im like ???? that punch response is realistic. id punch eren if it was me too
@@beetleorangejuice you and armin = 🤝 good bffs
I love Armin so much😢
My guys never fails to get the last jab in like 😭 if he ever does I just know he finna stay up all night thinking bout it
Thank you! So right!
Cannon's face at 5:33 is hilarious lol, bro is so unearthly pissed at what erens become
He would forsure fight eren if he was in that room 😂
Levi has witnessed countless deaths of his friends & comrades. Levi’s level of brutality is a reflection of his rage towards Zeke, who was responsible for so many of those deaths and Especially for Erwin’s.
Season 1: "I'm a monster, but she has nothing to do with that!"
Season 2: "I'll wrap that scarf around you as many times as you want."
Season 4: "You guys are important to me. More than anyone else."
Also Season 4: "I've always hated you." One of these things does not match the other, one of these things just doesn't belong
And now imagine that when this chapter came out in the manga, many believed in it))))
"I’ll wrap that scarf around you as many times you want." Happened at season 2 final episode*
Well he wants them to stay out of the conflict. The only way to keep Mikasa from staying by his side is making her hate him.
@@НикитаСимонян-ж5е specifically the ppl who shipped erehisu which was bonkers af
@@ViewOf I kinda can see what you’re saying but just because they’d “hate” him doesn’t mean they’d stay out of the conflict entirely and not fight. They’re soldiers. Also Eren had no problem involving them in the conflict in Marley, so why would he change his tune all of a sudden?
Fun Fact: If you zoom in on Eren's eyes after he beat up armin, you could see the tears he is holding back in his eyes. 5:59
Nice observation. Thanks ❤️
@@mordor4309 thanks man but I can't take credit for it. It was a huge thing on the internet since this episode aired.
@@KamiSama_gg I appreciate you for writing this comment man. I didn't pay much attention to it when I saw it for the first time. Thanks.
I know the part you’re talking about but I don’t think those are tears. Those just look like a typical glare drawn onto eyes.
I feel like if Eren were actually crying they’d draw more attention to it, to make it obvious.
@@OMGitsShrimp The whole point of the scene was to not make it obvious.
Eren's entire conversation with Mikasa and Armin felt like it was a lie but mixed in with the truth. Ackermans do have a free will and the ability to choose what they do and do not. They control their own freedom, we know this because of what Kenny and his grandpa said back in season 3. "The king fears us Ackermans. Why? Because he can't control us, the Ackerman defied whatever the royal decicded to do with the eldians, that's why we are being persecuted."
There were also hints all the way back from season 1 of Armin kinda liking Annie which also writes off the statement that "Bertholdt" was in Armin's head and manipulating him.
Last episode in the conversation between Yelena and Pyxis, Pyxis said this "The most convincing lie has a pinch of truth mixed in it."
Good to see someone using facts and argumentation for once. Although, most of this information is unknowable to the cast.
@@scepii we know but still on TH-cam they haven't watched it so understand the chronology
@@scepii By cast I mean characters in the show. None of them saw Kenny, for example, it was a flashback only for us, viewers.
Exactly, that's why Isayama put Pyxis's quote before that scene, to gave us clue.
yeah the whole armin Annie thing is beyond debate imo. there's no doubt there's been romance hinted there since season 1
6:02 Cannon cracking the code to the whole story on his first watch is omega crazy!
literally word for word..."slave to freedom"
@@milesgrimm6924right i'm surprised not more people are talking about it, my jaw was on the floor
Cannon is literally me. Events are happening but what's really important is Levi's loyalty to Erwin and his promise 🥲
me too!!! 😭😭
Fr!
Everyone's a slave to something and eren is a slave to his future
Well, ironically, in a cruel twist of fate, Eren intense yearning for freedom has turned Eren into a slave for freedom.
Eren sought freedom more than anything, but was chained by fate, but he was never alone, he was always loved. (By mikasa and armin yeah but also me.🤚)
Eren is a slave to his emotions more than anything, as the ending shows.
I love Eren so much 😭❤️
Levi's whole "I can't save anyone" vibes is basically the theme of this show in a nutshell.
Kenny’s dying words are so thematically relevant to the show
From anime haters to anime geeks, i love this arc!
We've all been there
problem is after AOT, Vinland Saga, Monster, and FMA there isn't much left
@@biggestbullsfan8569I can think of a few more, like Jujutsu Kaisen and Chainsaw Man, berserk
@@Kitajima2 berserk needs a real adaption. jjk is a little too goofy for me. chainsawman was good need to see how they wrap up thte story
@@Kitajima2 code geass and Parasyte too perhaps
Honestly the fact that you got the two people who haven't watched the series have conflicting viewpoints on how the show should proceed shows how incredible the writing is. At the end of the day, there is no "wrong" or "right" answer in the decisions and viewpoints that these characters have. They're at war, and they're doing the best they can to stick to the beliefs they have, whether it be for humanity that they know, or humanity that they don't know. Personally, I stopped being team Eren when he beat up Armin and called Mikasa a slave. However I completely understand why people would stand with him 100%. At the end of the day, morals are extremely subjective. As much as we'd like to believe they're inherit or at least learned through our teachers, morals are something that have to be constantly questioned. And that's one of the main highlights of this manga/show. There's no such thing as black and white in morality. Finding your shade of gray is what makes an individual figure out what to fight for.
Agreed! Best way to word it really. Really love this gang- the different opinions and the contrast in reactions. They're kinda arguing a bit at the end and I feel sorry for laughing 🤭😅. It's okay guys, that's just what the show does.
Ps. I had similar thoughts with you Cannon at this point of the show. ☺️
Interesting, but I disagree.
We start from two realities:
Objective is that which we cannot deny and that regardless of whether we understand it or not, it will affect us all equally, just as gravity does with us, no matter if we are good or bad gravity exists and affects us equally.
Subjective is that which is proper to the subject, they are points of view that may well differ from those of other people or not, but even so, they do not affect the objectivity of the object in question, in other words, my subjective opinion will not affect the existing reality of the object.
Objective truths are undeniable truths, which even by attempting to deny them you actually deny your assertion, such as the statement "There is no truth".
Morality is objective, the way in which people have applied it is subjective. Subjective morality poses the ignorance of objective rules. Each human being is free to dictate his own rules of behavior, therefore, there are no moral or immoral people. For example: We are wrong if we believe that torturing puppies for fun is a morally wrong act. For in such an action there is no objective property that tells us precisely that it is immoral.
Genocide is never morally acceptable, but then again Eren doesn't concern himself with such things because his main concern is survival and freedom, not a moral high ground. He accepted the people he is going to kill are mostly innocent like the fez kid, but he needs to become a devil to archive his goals, its the fate he has resigned himself to be.
In short, is Eren morally right? No. Is he justified? That depends on how far you are comfortable with atrocities that benefit you.
@@KornerIsabel Why do you think Morality is objective?
The arguments about ideology these boys are having are so emblematic of the whole fandom when this first came up, and we're watching reddit arguments unfold in real time. It's so cool to watch lol
Just Jaegers breaking the hearts of the Ackermanns.
Cannon has been the most relatable character lmao homeboi cannot let go of Erwin like Erwin’s got him by the balls in a death grip from the grave 💀💀💀
He's just like us 😔
He’s just like us fr
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What can I do? Help😂
@@cannonandrus5554 DON'T LET THEM PEER PRESSURE YOU OUT OF HONESTY
slave to freedom, word for word.. cannon you freakin genius
They said like a year ago they got into an argument because Jackson binge-watched an anime, now they're all arguing again because of anime 😂😂😂
Hahahahaha that is a great memory right there😂😂
Isayama the author said he wanted to see how viewers would react to a protagonist who is a good person first but later starts doing bad things. I think he wanted to see if the viewers can see the person’s action apart from the person himself.
Only cannon can, apparently
@@JD-jl4yy maybe jackson too
People spectacularly failed his test
The "why are you pro psycho" comment was golden, laughed so hard.
I choked
I felt so called out. 😂
When Armin beat up by Eren, he hadn't felt more violated since the time he was Historia.
Bruh what
Armin... WAS historia??
@@ShadowTheHedgehog003 yes he had to dress up as her in season 3
@@ShadowTheHedgehog003 Yeah, at the start of season 3. They had Armin and Jean dress up as Historia and Eren to throw off the kidnappers.
Nice spoilers
I always love Cannon's takes so much
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10:37 "What gave you the idea that you could escape from me?" That always give me chills!
in the manga we learn at this time that the ackerman have the power of a titan in them except that they do not transform, this explain their strength. I don't understand why they forgot such important information 🥹
What happened if an Ackermann became a Titan?
@@MrJockeys97 i’m not sure they can.. but that’s a good question
@@MrJockeys97 they don't ever really transform into titans. They're immune to that. They have the power of titans but in human form.
its like what levi said, he either dont know what is right and who is right, we all just moving forward and fight for the best. everybody has their own believe. everytime i've seen the pov someone, 100% i do understand the reasons why they're doing it. they are always have something to fight for
Armin and Annie has been a thing since s1. Specially the "Good Person" conversation between them.
Honestly yeah
True, my headcannon is that the reason Armin is the only one besides Reiner that know Berthodlt have a feeling for Annie is because Armin also have feeling for Annie, so when Armin was about to stare at Annie, ofc he will notice Bertholdt also staring at her.
Nah bro while I could see that interaction being built ito something its not enough imo to be in love. Also after seeing all Annie did as the female titan that should destroy most feelings for her imo.
@@joshuawalters7520 I mean, it’s definitely hinted that Annie had much more compassion towards armin, compared to anyone else. If anyone else was in armins position, fighting the female titan, Annie would have killed them. She couldn’t bring herself to kill armin in that moment
yeah i remember thinking it was random but then when you rewatch it you can see that maybe isayama was gonna make them a thing lol
"Can't process what their seeing" I'm dead we just stun locked watching
Eren: Your entire life has been dictated by your Ackermann blood. You can't touch me.
Levi appears.
Levi: Want another beatdown you lil shit?
😂
This levi fanboys are annoying asf. Want to imagine him in every other situations and scene. I know ur fav is a big hot shot in this story but without eren this island and levi had no further future, so stop bulls**tting around.
Yj18 chill dude... Get a life
@@yj1864 is this living rent-free in your head? A pity dude.
@StormEsper You felt the need to comment that rubbish is what tells me eren lives rent free in your mind. This show is not all about levi u know.
Watching this is so weird to me, because when i was watching it for the first time it was so obvious to me that Eren was lying to distance himself from them so they wouldn't suffer. Like throughout the first 3 seasons haven't we seen enough to know he cares so much? In this season, he literally said they are important to him more than anything. It was so obvious, I thought everyone would understand it when they first watched it. I really love Eren, more than any other character, so this conflict was so hard to watch. I don't think there are right or wrong sides, but at this point in the show i used to think that they were being too passive for people who want freedom until Eren actually made a move.
they 2 be going thru what we go thru here😂, accept or denial, i like how they both choose different things
Bro Carter at this current point saying he'd back Eren's murderous rampage if Armin, Mikasa, Hange and them were all fighting with Eren. :(
This is why i love this show so much, it brings so many intererting conversations and differents points of view.
"Why are you pro psycho?"
Cannon, you are my legend, and thanks for that
One moment that I thought was important from season 1 is when Eren learns the lesson from the female titan chase through the forest- trusting your comrades gets them killed and he needs to take the moment into his own hands and fight for himself. He regrets so much that he didn’t transform in time to help Levi squad fight. I feel like that moment helped me understand or at least grapple w his mindset this season. But wow I hated him saying that to mikasa and armin, but especially to mikasa. To strip someone of their humanity completely and insult them like that is insane. I personally think mikasa still has agency and isn’t completely controlled by the Ackerman thing, sheesh! Love watching you guys, totally brightens up my morning! I feel for u cannon! This part of the show is so painful!
Zeke will say later on that the Ackerman thing is not a disease but just really strong love, so Mikasa surely had her agency. Also, Levi wouldn't be able to let Erwin die if he was completely controlled by that.
@@krtkjkr Mikasa's love and protection for eren has nothing to do with her being Ackerman. Ackermans are just enhanced powers
@@districtskz from official guidebook Attack on Titan ANSWERS (p.168)
- Huh!? (Shocked) This part hasn’t even been drawn in the story!! So the liege of Mikasa is Eren, and by the same logic, Kenny’s is Uri…
Isayama: "For Levi, that person is Erwin, whose existence exceeds that of Levi’s own. But is it acknowledgement as much as it's due to the Ackerman bloodline? I would say it's probably instinctual."
Levi is literally the most caring towards his comrades.
I can say this because they have finished the show, but you can see the pain in erens eyes at points when beating armin, he is setting something in motion im sure, I wonder if it will have to do with the next part or if it was just to start the rumbling
It's because he's in love with Mikasa and Armin is his best friend, and one of the main reasons he does it is them. In the finale everyone will understand everything there
@@НикитаСимонян-ж5е excited to know, I figured the first part, the reason is one of the few things I haven't had spoiled though I have a few ideas
Most plausible theory which is also the same as what Reiner was saying.. Is that Eren is trying to pull a Lelouch
@@CrownNdWealth I already read the manga, but it doesn't make sense to pull a Lelouch if he actually killed majority of the world's population 🤣
Lelouch painted himself as a villain, but there were lots of living witnesses to vouch for what really happened
@@zekie106 huh? Eren just wiped out 80% of the world, everyone sees him as the devil of eldia and he absolutely is the villain of the world, and eldians from paradis stopped him. AND if the rest of the world didn't care and still wanted to attack paradis they can't because of eren wiping out all their militaries, he was their scapegoat who also gave the world time to actually think and not retaliate instantly. Please, reading comprehension is not that hard.
Carter's hot take: "I'm a low-key Jaegerist." 😁
6:00 Eren looks like he's about to cry here. you know sometimes when you're mad and at the same time holding back your tears 'cause you actually feel miserable but you don't want to admit it.
Cannon’s literally a heated cannon right now with Eren (and I agree!!!)
“This is the Cristiano Ronaldo of episodes”
“So not the highest rated on IMDb”
That was great lmao
Ronaldo the 🐐
@@fahadiit9144what colour is Ronaldo's wc? The real GOAT 🐐 🇦🇷 has a wc.
@@SamirSiraj8542 LOL rigged world cup with 6 penalties lmaoooo. No one cares
@@fahadiit9144 4* and 3 normal goals, 3 more than shawarmanaldo
CR7 🐐🐐🐐
6:19 dude just say what eren say in end of the show. eren: i am a freedom slave
I like the 1 episode format with lots of discussions after, cause this season is where things get real murky with everyone's loyalties and motivations. Keep it going guys!
Its so funny to watch the after episode discussion...because you guys are exactly what happened to the fandom (except you are talking to each other in nice way and try to prove your point with normal facts and not with insults) :DD
DAMN tho, it is interesting to watch how Isayama brought politics into the show and ideology that is very on the edge and suddenly people that were behind one banner suddenly were torn apart and fight each other who is right
Right?!! I was laughing when they were arguing at the end. 🤣 Ahhh, I love this show.
omg i was arguing with people online when s4 came out😭😭
omg Cannon’s right, finally someone get Eren’s Actions!
he’s a slave to freedom and wanted to be freed.
the ending of the Manga realistically makes sense!
its so cool seeing this guys literally going through it. Around this part of the anime, the fanbase that have been with each other for so long start turning against each other. and you are literally representing that perfectly
After watching the ending, it’s crazy how right Cannon was about Eren.
it’s honestly impressive. word for word, bar for bar.
Eren knew he can’t beat Armin with words and that he can’t beat Mikasa in a fight. So he chose to argue with Mikasa and beat the crap out of Armin instead. Dude’s a mega genius Chad.
This joke is annoyingly overused
@@seancarroll5803 It's new for the reactors
@@seancarroll5803 yeah Ik just upholding the unspoken tradition lul
Idk how I've never seen this 😂
@@seancarroll5803 not really, its only mentioned when people talk about this specific episode, its not like those petra x tree jokes where that has been said everywhere
0:40 Jackson : freedom, justice, and security to my new empire ! 😂 I love that reference
6:13 I agree. He's a slave of his own dream. Sadly and tragic.
How many times has levi's have to go though this.Levi's lost so many people both friends I don't even know if he could shed tears anymore.💐
Studio Gek!!!! Been having fun these last two weeks watching your new videos and I’m sooooo looking forward to you guys watching Part 2!!!
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Levi is such an amazing character. A goat fr. And has some of the best shots from the entire show. It's pure beauty.
“Why are u pro sicko” is the cutest argument ever hehehe :)
i knew cannon was my favorite since day one for a reason
I went from not liking cannon to liking him the most, dude is just me in s4😭.
Also Levi Man, Despite being an overpowered character he is just goated. He lost his mother, his friends, his uncle, his squad, his comrades and then Erwin and dude is still standing like a Man. And Just like cannon said his loyalty towards Erwin is just 🐐. His mental strength is just crazyy to me.
😂❤️ we both had character development
@@cannonandrus5554 fr💀
Brig, Levi cant just kill Zeke!!! Without Zekes royal blood there will be no Rumbling and without Rumbling the island is doomed which would mean that everything Levi had to go through will be meaningless. Plot holes that big doesn't exist lmao.
20:29just like kenny said in season 3 everyone is a slave to something . isayama is beyond jenius
bro called eren being a slave to freedom this early, dude is smart
I was so proud of Armin for defending Mikasa.
Expressions in this series always has meanings to me, Especially Eren’s…
When Hanes and Sasha got killed he laughed, and this is an extreme way to show how someone can handle something that he has trouble accepting. So he distance hisself from the fear or pain of the circumstance by laughing it off.
In the manga when Eren killed the civilians in Marely his face shows how he really feels about what he has done, he knew that this is the only way and it has to be done like that, but nevertheless it goes against his nature.
In this episode sadness is drawn in his face, he knew what he was going to say to them even before they started talking, and he knew what is the outcome of it.
It’s a good discussion to have, definitely worth sharing your thoughts at points during the show.
I despise Floch, because he didn’t need to do that. I think Eren has a lot on his shoulders and wants to protect everyone that is dear to him, so he will be the slave so his friends can be free
I love how you all don’t interrupt each other when you’re trying to make your own points
You inherit memories. Not feelings. Armin and Annie had a bond since the beginning, so when Eren pushes the whole "You're now Bertholdt" thing, it's just a flat out lie.
Zeke "you are trapped here with 30 titans and the beast titans in this forest!
Levi " I think it's you who's not understanding the current situation"
Bro what Cannon said is literally how I felt after finishing the aot manga. Bro is one of the only people I can agree with on attack on titan because anyone else is blinded by their love for Eren even though what he did is so incredibally morally wrong
Armin had this idea when he was younger that in order to win, there has to be some monster that is willing to sacrifice anything. Floch and Eren are this idea elevated to the absolute. For some reason, people love to simplify everything: this group of people is good cos they are protecting island, this group of people is bad cos they are trying to stop them. It was this simple only at the begining, but it is much more layered and complicated now. Moreover, show criticises this way of thinking, Eren still chooses to see everything like it's black and white (or, it's more accurate to say that he acts as if the world was black and white), it's easier. That way there is a simple solution to everything. But, since world is not black and white, it doesn't solve anything, the destruction and more suffering is the main result. I believe this message to be the main reason this show even exists
I think it's pretty clear that Eren already understands that the world isn't black and white. Especially when you look at the newest episode, he's extremely conflicted morally but knows that there is no perfect choice to make. Eren has always prioritized freedom and his loved ones, and the only option that both keeps them free and ensures their safety is the rumbling. From the Mikasa backstory we know Eren will take freedoms from others if his own is threatened.
To him, the euthanization plan is unjust, as the only ones who end up with consequences are the Eldians (when they lose their right to reproduce and exist in the future). Why should Eldians be punished when the Marleyans have been oppressing them for so long?
Eren also sees Paradis government's inaction as a slow death. Though they have the best morals, they don't actually have a solution and nothing gets solved.
Eldians staying on the island isn't what he wants either. Because of Armin, Eren wants to go and see the world. To Eren, the plan of staying on the island and using the rumbling as a threat will never make Eldians truly free and essentially just traps them in a cage.
By this logic there's no way to make Eldians free, besides the rumbling.
The show critiques racism, war, and fascism really well. Isayama shows how easy the road to radicalization and violence really is. It's no ones fault that they are in the situation they are in; Eren killed thousands because Reiner killed thousands. Reiner killed thousands because he was brainwashed by ideologies ingrained into him as a kid by Marleyans. Marleyans are like this because they were also taught this by their ancestors. Their ancestors think this way because they lived through Eldian oppression. This can be traced forever into the past.
"We gotta get the children out of that forest at the very least. Or else... We would just keep on circling around the same place. That's why, it is the burden of us adults to shoulder the sins and hatred of the past". To end the cycle of hatred and violence we must learn to forgive, or else we will keep passing the hatred and trauma to future generations again.
@@asc_1949 Eren knows the world is complicated, hence I said "he acts as if it was black and white". "I wanted to save Eldia, BUT there is more. When I learned there were people outside of the walls, I was disappointed. I was so disappointed, I wanted to wipe it all out". He is irritated that the world is too complicated. That there are no objectively bad enemies he can wipe out to obtain freedom like before. Rumbling is just that - an easy solution. The only thing he can and always could do - is destroy in order to obtain this fake "freedom". In fact, it was made pretty clear that all people are already free. Even though Reiner was "brainwashed", he chose to proceed with the mission in order to achieve his dream of becoming a hero even after realising how horrible his actions are. Even though Erwin was led by his dream to know the truth, he chose to discard it in order to do the right thing. Everyone can make a choice that impacts their story. Eren wants different freedom - he wants a freedom obtained from destroying the one, who is restricting him. People outside restrict him from experiencing an empty, "free" world.
Ofcourse the other main reason he did the rumbling was to protect his friends. It doesn't make it the right choice. It doesn't fix anything, it only destroys things and shrinks the world down to 1 island, where there is still enough space for hatred
Even if Levi drinks the wine he won't turn into Titan as he is Ackerman
They really be talking over each other to prove the points of fictional characters. We're all so invested, ✨ y e s ✨
Cannon knows what's up
The sky ;)
every time Zeke realises that Levi still exists, his reaction always cracks me up ! 😂
being caught up with the show makes this episode a bit more bearable to watch because i hated it so much (though today it is painful to watch for different reasons we are aware of now) and every emotional reaction Cannon had was so relatable 😭 in the next videos, even when he blinks i’m sure i will be like ‘SAME’
um... omg, doesn't matter what we know today, this episode still leaves me speechless, i can't believe it. everytime i try to think of something to say, the clown emoji keeps popping up on every character's face, especially those guys who volunteered to beat up Keith Shadis. seriously... clowns everywhere, except Eren of course... that mastermind puppet master...💔
Damn Cannon was on to it early, Eren is the biggest slave of the entire series.
he is a slave to the emotions he felt when that titan ate his mother.
He saw it and since then he will do anything to destroy those who are responsible for it
He is, I agree. But he’s still my favorite, I feel sorry for him
Eren is a slave to freedom. What does freedom means to Eren is still yet to be answered.
That’s the tragedy of Eren. He craves for freedom, but paradoxically he is a slave to himself and the circumstances he was put through
Just not to the attack titan, quite the opposite)
7:30 God, I love Carters little head raise. You can instantly see what's going on within :D
I was expecting a stronger argument than "Armin swung first" 😂😂
Yeah after Eren verbally abused Mikasa and made her cry 😭💀
Iz facts tho
@@hgo6000 Eren was in the wrong, and Armin was in the right in that scene. Eren was demonstrating emotional immaturity, thinking that saying the "true" thing is better than saying the "right" thing. Its not about whether what he has said to mikasa and armin is true or not, it was that he was burning the bridges between him and mikasa/armin, the two people that stuck with him the most. Armin punched eren on behalf of mikasa, both hurt and betrayed by Eren.
@@hgo6000 Yes if the circumstances are "normal" like in a bar and someone antagonizes you, but not in extraordinary circumstances like this show, where the stakes are terrifyingly high, you are a military personnel, and the person who u thought was your friend is also an insurgency leader who has just brought his troops to you.
Eren was telling facts and speaking honestly about how he feels.
Armin resorted to shouting, attempting to silence Eren, and violence. Armin, who's always pro-dialogue, even with murderers who've killed thousands of people. Armin, who has once said to his childhood bullies: "you're resorting to violence because you can't win an argument".
The one who's immature here is Armin. Eren is closer to Armin's ideals in this episode, because he at least tried to talk things out, even though he didn't have to.
Y’all are great. Thanks for constantly uploading great content fellas!
I think Isayama would be really happy to see people discuss about each episode of AoT:D
6:03 he says "and grab the kid who killed Sasha"
It really got me, because he really did care about her, same with anyone in the group.
I really like Carter's way of thinking and how he doesn't form his opinion based purely on emotions and tries to see the bigger picture. That's the right way to watch this show and understand characters' actions, and it will be rewarded by it. That's kinda the thing with Yeagerists as well. Most people just immediately start hating them just because they oppose most main characters, without seeing that their only goal and everything they're doing is to protect the island and their people from being exterminated by the outside world
Yeah I think most people don't disagree with the Yeagerists goals, just their methods.
"Why are you pro psycho?"
*Eren Whispers in his ear*
"I don't know"
„Why are you pro Psycho?“ seriously this is a question for all Jaegerist fans😭
I'm with you Cannon, everything cannon said here is so real he gets it
❤❤❤ till the end of the line
@@cannonandrus5554 anti-jaegerist from the start love to see it🤝
Cannon spilling the truth!!!
Zeke ripping up that titan to throw at Levi was the most brutal thing ever 💀
11:30 Just found out that was Zeke's jaw moving. Thanks Brigg
13:43 i still remember how this episode cut off here(because translation in japan cut off and we here got it translated only from translations)and i thought it was full episode cause it was fine of an ending
"Eren is a slave to something"
Future Eren: 'So anyways i started blasting'
guys trust me, nothing makes sense right now, but it gets way better. you will love where this is going after all the pain here
Cannon being anti jaegerist is massive GREEN flag