This is one of the best musical parts of the movie imo because this is when Joaquin’s Joker really felt like comic book Joker and gave me Mark Hamill’s Joker vibes because him killing people while singing is exactly what his Joker would’ve done.
Unironically, that is the biggest tragedy for me personally. I enjoy the first movie A LOT, and I wanted to enjoy this sequel irrespective of what the fans and critics say. But in the end I just ended up disliking the movie as a whole. Certain scenes in isolation look incredible to the point where I could easily gaslight someone into thinking Joker 2 is good. But when you watch the movie as a whole and let the passing of the movie play out, you end up feeling blue balled... I hate that I hate this movie...
@@ArynWellspring the movie was a let down to fans of the first movie. But if you watch folie a duex a second time, it’s actually a little bit more enjoyable.
@@randomserbianguy5677"I hate that i hate this movie" probably my same feelings i have mix feelings with this movie because is not the worst movie ever made like some dumb people are saying but I think is terrible as a sequel because it doesn't feel like a sequel to me
I like to imagine the last scene was in his head and that he’s still alive. If they made a Joker 3 and turns out he’s still alive I’d like to see a 3 Jokers adaption with the inmate at the end.
The cinematography in this movie was great, shame it couldn’t have same quality as the story and genre Edited: Why the fuck is there a war going on less than 24hrs
I honestly love this scene, it's like the only scene where Arthur feels like the real Joker from the comics. I've always loved this version design, from the face paint to the red and yellow suit, and I feel this scene makes a pretty strong argument of how good of a Joker design these movies have.
No puedo expresar lo mucho que me encanta esta escena, el sentimiento y las actuaciones son increíbles, sumandole el significado de esta cancion que me parece espectacular, simplemente 10/10
This is the best scene in the movie for me. I neither love or hate the film because the ending has me in two minds. But this is exactly how I wanted the musical aspect to be, where the songs are combined with unhinged hallucinations, violence, and theatricality. It's a great way to showcase Joker's twisted mind, instead of singing just for the sake of singing. Most other musical numbers didn't really work for me but this one nailed it
@@Maxime_G I mean this song is Arthur convincing himself that he's the joker which is what makes him want to take control of his own case and become his own lawyer. This is literally the only song in the film that actually moves the plot forward in anyway and gives us insight we could've have otherwise gotten.
“Folie à Deux”: A title rich with meaning, suggesting a shared madness between two. It captures Harley’s delusion entwined with his, but it also reveals our own fantasy as the audience. When Arthur turns away from the Joker's legacy, he fractures the dream we all shared. No longer the fearless rebel, he stands revealed as a man, stripped of the myth we once adored. Folie à Deux-a collective daydream woven between Harley and you, the audience. Did you ever truly care for Arthur? Or was it the intoxicating allure of the “Joker” that drew you in? You reveled in the fantasy of rebellion, not in the man carrying its weight. Here lies the brilliance: as the audience turns its back on the film, the art finds its purpose. Folie à Deux becomes a haunting echo of our reality. In the beginning, we see Arthur fleeing the shadow of the Joker, yet by the end, his followers chase after him, pleading, “Wait, don’t go, we still love you.” They cling to the fantasy, blind to his humanity. Harley, too, rejects him, unable to reconcile the jester with the man beneath. And in a cruel twist, his most devoted follower-disillusioned-turns the knife, betrayal born from a dream shattered. Do you not grasp the truth? None of you are ready to ignite chaos or challenge the system. The Joker is your shared fantasy, a reflection of your own desires. You cheered for the rebellion, but when the curtain is pulled back, revealing the fragile man beneath, the fantasy disintegrates, and you, like Harley, turn away. Box office numbers may label it a failure, but as a work of art, it transcends the understanding of the masses-complex, haunting, a masterpiece that compels us to confront not only the myth of the Joker but the unsettling truth of our own complicity in the fantasy. I can't necessarily argue with anyone who has a problem with this movie, because in a sense they are right. It doesn't carry the momentum of the first movie, but in a way that's the entire point. It's about a man who created a character to survive in the world and that character/shadow became too great of a burden for Arthur to carry. At the end Arthur discovered who he really is which is not a murdering psychopath, but a beaten man who at the end of the day just wanted love more than to be "seen or noticed". No it's not necessarily a "comfortable" movie to watch, but in my opinion an important one.
My favourite musical number of the movie. Incredible use of lights and brilliant acting by Joaquin Phoenix. Great movie, maybe not perfect, but diferent, bold and commited.
Ok, i don't care i need Joaquin to be the Joker again in that Matt Reeves movie, he feels like the ultimate Joker especially in this scene, I'm so mad 😂
Don't know how anyone can say this is one of the worst comic book movies of all time when it's this beautiful to look at and so well made and acted. Even if you hate the story, this is still extremely well made compared to something like Madame Web.
the thing is the people hating it didn't even go see it there is 50k reviews for the first movie but this movie got like 5k reviews its obv that its a hate campaign from the biggening
Can you imagine if joker hijacked the court room and actually performed with her as a gag, while killing all these folks in real time and not a dream sequence. Would have been so peak. Still love this film though.
Genuinely I actually liked this movie and this scene is one of the biggest reasons. The movie feels a lot like a stage musical a lot of the time and I think this especially captures the actual vibe of the Joker as a character
People are brainless, they think they're smart by being non-comformist and by taking something out of context. I mean, good for them if they've liked the movie, but listening to them it's wonderful 🙄
Its been happening a lot lately and its lowkey annoying. Look at Star Wars Prequels or Spiderman 3. When it was released, people HATED IT. Then somehow, they loved it. People are bipolar, i guess 😂
I think a better explanation is Arthur has a breakthrough towards getting better by accepting accountability. He openly admits to murdering not 5 but 6 people. He embraces being Arthur Fleck not the mask of a character he created. He admits that he is Joker and that he is responsible. im not sure what thats upsetting to people - hes just essentially denying the charade of being the cities martyr to blame the awakening of people to their problems and how society has abandoned them . Hes saying i did this all for me not for anyone else. He is still just as much the Joker but thats not what people wanted. Most people just went to theater expecting more or less of the same. Shame
@themadladorian4364 to address the ending it completes his character Arc and goes full circle. His life is a tragedy not a comedy. He gets murdered for being just Arthur Fleck even tho him and Joker are one and the same .
Lyrics: There's always a joker in the pack There's always a lonely clown The poor laughing fool falls on his back And everyone laughs when he's down There's always a funny man in the game But he's only funny by mistake And everyone laughs at him just the same They don't see his lonely heart break They don't care as long as there is a jester, just a fool As foolish as he can be There's always a joker, that's the rule But fate deals the hand that I see The joker is me! I don't care as long as there is a wild man in the deck As long as I see his frown Then I won't be lonely, that's a fact I stand here and wait for his sound, ha, ha, ha The joker is me the joker is me The joker is me (Included lyrics from the Lady Ga Ga version to see how it would work. I think it's fine but....who knows 😂)
I kept thinking “thank Christ, it’s finally about to happen.” Him wielding the revolver around randomly was awesome and true to the joker character. The stool, and gavel, great. And then the worst shyamalan twist😒
This scene is the closest Joaquin Phoenix’s Arthur Fleck has gotten to being like Joker from the comics. He sings and dances while killing people at his own trial. It’s probably my favorite scene in the movie. Then of course shortly after this scene he basically says, “The Joker’s NOT me” 😂
Huh...no. sorry, but no. Even excepting the wrong flaws that stupids like to talk about, it's not a good movie at all. Not a good movie, not a good sequel, not a good musical, not a good Joker movie.
@@Jester_Jingles Quentin Tarantino disagrees. Dude, I've seen a ton of people say that the guy that kills Arthur at the end is a young Heath Ledger Joker. A lot of people straight up believe in total bullshit when it comes to this movie
@@whereami2477 that's your argument ? "Quentin Tarantino" ? Do you even know what he said ? If people are stupid, here it's because the movie's so bad that they try to connect it with someone better to give it some sense
if the musical parts were more like this, a sort of sadistical fantasy, they’d make for a much better element the movie. i mean the rest of the character arc would still make no sense 😂 but it’d have been much better.
3:00 gaga had always reminded me of harley back in 2015 (yes, i've also watched suicide squad & margot was aight) but i called it that gaga would make a very unsettling harley if they made one in a very different universe. haven't seen this yet & i've heard she wasn't utilized enough, but damn this captured what i thought back then!
The fact he turns out to not even be “the joker” automatically ruined both movies for me. The first movie ended ambiguously so even if you didn’t think Arthur would become the Batman villain, it didn’t confirm whether he was or wasn’t. This scene is pure joker from the comics and animated versions so that ending reveal was really stupid.
Arthur was the Joker's first host or the Joker was Arthur's shadow but left him for another host when Arthur gave up. The Joker is a demon fed by narcissism, that's why there are many Jokers, but the same demon. Joker is a mix of the shadow and the trickster in Jung's archetypes, not a real person.
@@johnmartinskyrie I really hate what they did in this sequel because Arthur is gone at the end of the first movie, there isn't any duality anymore, he said that to his mother that the Joker is his real persona, that's the reason I don't think this sequel is canon.
@@norm-bb3bb Don't forget that Arthur was a good man who had a bad day. In psychology he was an abused people pleaser. All he wanted was attention and recognition. His shadow was this narcissistic monster known as Joker that he finally embraced when the medication he took wore off. When he was arrested and put back to Arkham, they put him back on stronger meds and the shadow/Joker was put back in chains until he had with Lee another motivation to stop them again and let the Joker out. The Joker as a spirit feeds on anger and narcissism thus the lack of compassion. But near the end, Gary reminds him not only that he loved him, but that Arthur was also capable of love. The process of redemption started there, and the true love of the cellmate that the guards killed played the final role in his redemption arc. With that amount of love/light, there was no more place for the shadow. The Joker had to find another host. The Joker really is a demon, not a person. Childhood traumas are often triggers that open doors to that kind of spirit. Joker 2 in a way is a redemption story. Arthur maybe got rid of Joker out of love for Gary who was scared of that entity.
this really is the perfect joker. Just a normal guy willing to do the craziest things. If he was in a world with super heros and he was just a guy banging them over the head with a gavel it would be so dope
this theory is gonna sound rather stupid, considering th fact that the director said that arthur wasn't the real joker, but just hear me out for a second. You might remember that in the ending Arthur gets killed by someone else right? I believe that this happened in his imagination, meaning that it was like a sort of symbolism of his "Joker" personality getting rid of his human side (the human side being Arthur)
Don't listen to Todd, he's a fool , he said in the first movie that Arthur is the mask and he's the real Joker, and you're theory makes sense because that inmate looks like a hallucination from Arthur, a TH-camr had the same theory.
Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker is really awesome! For me, he would be my third favorite Joker. 1. Mark Hamill 2. Heath Ledger 3. Joaquin Phoenix 4. Jack Nicholson
@@salmonfish2197Yeah, I agree. Despite what the movie was, I still believe Joaquin is a great Joker. The real problem was Todd not letting his Joker shine. Same with Lady Gaga as Harley.
This scene just proves how much better the movie would have been had they made an actual Joker movie and not the steaming pile of feces the rest of the film sadly was
![Arthur kills three guys in the subway | Joker [UltraHD, HDR]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/mUPJckUSdzo/mqdefault.jpg)
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This is one of the best musical parts of the movie imo because this is when Joaquin’s Joker really felt like comic book Joker and gave me Mark Hamill’s Joker vibes because him killing people while singing is exactly what his Joker would’ve done.
It's trash...
@@idiot_city5444why
@@idiot_city5444no
@@idiot_city5444 first word of your name describes you lol it's dumb when people call every little detail "trash" just bcs they dont like the film
@@idiot_city5444if you think this musical number was trash you’ve never played the Arkham games!
The only time we got some Jokering in a Joker movie. Absolutely fucking crazy
This is some self sabotage by the director
@@JoeChilltonwell he was force to not by the fans. I consider it a masterpiece underrated (and you never seen it or never watch it carefully)
@@LingoLane-db8hcoh stop it’s horrible
@@LingoLane-db8hc Shut up you pretentious douchebag
@@kdizzle901your mother is horrible 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I wish the whole movie was like this, when he's actually acting like the Joker. There's so much potential and they wasted it.
Certain scenes in isolation make the film look better than it is, that’s probably the most upsetting part
Unironically, that is the biggest tragedy for me personally. I enjoy the first movie A LOT, and I wanted to enjoy this sequel irrespective of what the fans and critics say. But in the end I just ended up disliking the movie as a whole. Certain scenes in isolation look incredible to the point where I could easily gaslight someone into thinking Joker 2 is good. But when you watch the movie as a whole and let the passing of the movie play out, you end up feeling blue balled...
I hate that I hate this movie...
@@ArynWellspring the movie was a let down to fans of the first movie. But if you watch folie a duex a second time, it’s actually a little bit more enjoyable.
@@randomserbianguy5677"I hate that i hate this movie" probably my same feelings i have mix feelings with this movie because is not the worst movie ever made like some dumb people are saying but I think is terrible as a sequel because it doesn't feel like a sequel to me
Very true
@@randomserbianguy5677same
This was by far my favorite part of the movie. This would be one of the best Joker scenes ever if it didn’t turn out he wasn’t the Joker.
He was the Joker. If you pay attention, you'll see and hear that he passed the torch to the guy who killed him.
@@ASchopenkeeper I was thinking the same especially when he sang. He said I think "my boy" or "my son"
@@APAMVs Yes, and the guy is cackling as he lifts the knife to the corners of his own mouth and cuts!
@ Exactly so he’s not the Joker, the guy who killed him is.
I like to imagine the last scene was in his head and that he’s still alive. If they made a Joker 3 and turns out he’s still alive I’d like to see a 3 Jokers adaption with the inmate at the end.
That cinematic shot at the end is so powerful. The cinematography in this movie was beautiful.
3:11 This should be the ending
Yes
No
I dont care if this movie is so terrible but I really love their performance
If the movie has a lot of big problems, acting isn't one of them
Joaquin deserves another Oscar nomination for this even if i hate the movie he was fantastic
@@Maxime_Gexactly!
Oh no one’s really arguing about the performance being good, it is entirely on the script in this case
@@norm-bb3bbno he doesn’t lol he’s cringe in a lot of scenes
For sure one of the best bits of the movie
The cinematography in this movie was great, shame it couldn’t have same quality as the story and genre
Edited: Why the fuck is there a war going on less than 24hrs
Wasn't even that great considering we've lost the "horror-movie" cinematography that we had in the first when he was dancing and everything
Theme was literally the same as the first movie: Identity
@@MarkFilipAnthony It contradicts the first movie quite a bit
@@Snavels not at all. First movie is about Arthur trying to find His identity, 2nd movie he finds it by abandoning the Joker persona
@@MarkFilipAnthonyyeah, but the genre changed. First was a thriller. Second was a musical. That changed everything.
Glaring portrayal of how Arthur's fame is not really his. Powerful!
The Joker archetype is immortal.
3:21 im obsessed with this shot and joker's smile - so cold
I honestly love this scene, it's like the only scene where Arthur feels like the real Joker from the comics. I've always loved this version design, from the face paint to the red and yellow suit, and I feel this scene makes a pretty strong argument of how good of a Joker design these movies have.
Yes and that's why I'm pissed, Joaquin for me is the best Joker but they decided to butchered his character, I'm so sad and mad
Favorite part of the film.
No puedo expresar lo mucho que me encanta esta escena, el sentimiento y las actuaciones son increíbles, sumandole el significado de esta cancion que me parece espectacular, simplemente 10/10
Me encanto también Joaquin es increíble
Arthur five minutes later: There is no Joker, kek.
he shoots the joker aka himself at the end
Maybe the real joker was the friends we made along the way
Maybe the joker was the friends that we made on our way
That why everyone hates the movie
😅
Fire pfp dude, love Taxi Driver
This is the best scene in the movie for me.
I neither love or hate the film because the ending has me in two minds. But this is exactly how I wanted the musical aspect to be, where the songs are combined with unhinged hallucinations, violence, and theatricality. It's a great way to showcase Joker's twisted mind, instead of singing just for the sake of singing. Most other musical numbers didn't really work for me but this one nailed it
Now this is truly my first favorite musical, even unfortunately it could be a distraction but still my personal favorite musical.
BEST PART OF THE MOVIE ❤
whether we like the movie or not, this sequence is so great!
In itself, yes, but it's completely useless
@@Maxime_G I mean this song is Arthur convincing himself that he's the joker which is what makes him want to take control of his own case and become his own lawyer. This is literally the only song in the film that actually moves the plot forward in anyway and gives us insight we could've have otherwise gotten.
@@TommFoolery it's the only one that is a bit interesting and useful at a psychological point of view, but not really in term of the writing
i liked it😀
the best musical scene ❤
“Folie à Deux”: A title rich with meaning, suggesting a shared madness between two. It captures Harley’s delusion entwined with his, but it also reveals our own fantasy as the audience. When Arthur turns away from the Joker's legacy, he fractures the dream we all shared. No longer the fearless rebel, he stands revealed as a man, stripped of the myth we once adored.
Folie à Deux-a collective daydream woven between Harley and you, the audience. Did you ever truly care for Arthur? Or was it the intoxicating allure of the “Joker” that drew you in? You reveled in the fantasy of rebellion, not in the man carrying its weight.
Here lies the brilliance: as the audience turns its back on the film, the art finds its purpose. Folie à Deux becomes a haunting echo of our reality.
In the beginning, we see Arthur fleeing the shadow of the Joker, yet by the end, his followers chase after him, pleading, “Wait, don’t go, we still love you.” They cling to the fantasy, blind to his humanity. Harley, too, rejects him, unable to reconcile the jester with the man beneath. And in a cruel twist, his most devoted follower-disillusioned-turns the knife, betrayal born from a dream shattered.
Do you not grasp the truth? None of you are ready to ignite chaos or challenge the system. The Joker is your shared fantasy, a reflection of your own desires. You cheered for the rebellion, but when the curtain is pulled back, revealing the fragile man beneath, the fantasy disintegrates, and you, like Harley, turn away.
Box office numbers may label it a failure, but as a work of art, it transcends the understanding of the masses-complex, haunting, a masterpiece that compels us to confront not only the myth of the Joker but the unsettling truth of our own complicity in the fantasy.
I can't necessarily argue with anyone who has a problem with this movie, because in a sense they are right. It doesn't carry the momentum of the first movie, but in a way that's the entire point. It's about a man who created a character to survive in the world and that character/shadow became too great of a burden for Arthur to carry. At the end Arthur discovered who he really is which is not a murdering psychopath, but a beaten man who at the end of the day just wanted love more than to be "seen or noticed". No it's not necessarily a "comfortable" movie to watch, but in my opinion an important one.
Least pretentious Folie à Deux enjoyer
Thats alot of word to defend a bad movie lmao.
How do I become ready?
I just thought the songs interrupted the flow of the story and the ending was kind of lame
Nobody reading allat lil bro
I want it to be Joker 3. It could be the thing I want most in my life.
My favourite musical number of the movie. Incredible use of lights and brilliant acting by Joaquin Phoenix.
Great movie, maybe not perfect, but diferent, bold and commited.
Ok, i don't care i need Joaquin to be the Joker again in that Matt Reeves movie, he feels like the ultimate Joker especially in this scene, I'm so mad 😂
Perfect scene! and perfect song!
Ahead of it's time
Don't know how anyone can say this is one of the worst comic book movies of all time when it's this beautiful to look at and so well made and acted. Even if you hate the story, this is still extremely well made compared to something like Madame Web.
The only musical number that I loved :))
My fav part of this film to be honest.
best scene in the movie is this scene. And Joker meeting Gary.
In 6 months from now this movie is gonna be loved.
Awesome film.
That's not how public opinion works. At least not that quickly.
the thing is the people hating it didn't even go see it there is 50k reviews for the first movie but this movie got like 5k reviews its obv that its a hate campaign from the biggening
@@themadladorian4364 ok 12 months …
Fuck no
no
This was my favorite song in the whole movie
The Next Scene:
Arthur: I was kidding your honor
These musical scenes feel like they'd work best as TH-cam parodies.
This is such an incredible scene
I'm disappointed that no one's pointing out that this is also the theme song for Kath and Kim
Best sequence of the movie by far. That closing... Ufff 🛐
Not that hard, honestly
Todd Philips became the same director that we saw in 2019 only in this 5 min
Can you imagine if joker hijacked the court room and actually performed with her as a gag, while killing all these folks in real time and not a dream sequence. Would have been so peak. Still love this film though.
What a mind blowing scene in Theatre. I love it so much❤
Genuinely I actually liked this movie and this scene is one of the biggest reasons. The movie feels a lot like a stage musical a lot of the time and I think this especially captures the actual vibe of the Joker as a character
I love how everybody all of the sudden loves this movie in the comments 😂
People are brainless, they think they're smart by being non-comformist and by taking something out of context.
I mean, good for them if they've liked the movie, but listening to them it's wonderful 🙄
@@Maxime_G Please stop insulting people's intelligence simply because they like a movie you do not.
Dude seriously. At first you see all these "it bombed the director hates the fans" now it's a masterpiece.
@themadladorian4364 🤓
Its been happening a lot lately and its lowkey annoying. Look at Star Wars Prequels or Spiderman 3. When it was released, people HATED IT. Then somehow, they loved it. People are bipolar, i guess 😂
The Joker is meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee great Joaquin
I think a better explanation is
Arthur has a breakthrough towards getting better by accepting accountability. He openly admits to murdering not 5 but 6 people. He embraces being Arthur Fleck not the mask of a character he created. He admits that he is Joker and that he is responsible.
im not sure what thats upsetting to people - hes just essentially denying the charade of being the cities martyr to blame the awakening of people to their problems and how society has abandoned them .
Hes saying i did this all for me not for anyone else.
He is still just as much the Joker but thats not what people wanted. Most people just went to theater expecting more or less of the same. Shame
Well put
Fucking thank you 🗿
No I went to the theatre expecting a well written story this was not that!
Interesting how you left out the ending as it's the most shallow part of the film and wouldn't rhyme well with your interpretation.
@themadladorian4364 to address the ending it completes his character Arc and goes full circle. His life is a tragedy not a comedy. He gets murdered for being just Arthur Fleck even tho him and Joker are one and the same .
I enjoyed this song
Finally someone uploads it! For me the best scene and song
This movie is so fucking good. And i'm tired pretend it's not
Tell people who hate it that they wouldn't get it.
My favorite, joker song
This movie was great
Lyrics:
There's always a joker in the pack
There's always a lonely clown
The poor laughing fool falls on his back
And everyone laughs when he's down
There's always a funny man in the game
But he's only funny by mistake
And everyone laughs at him just the same
They don't see his lonely heart break
They don't care as long as there is a jester, just a fool
As foolish as he can be
There's always a joker, that's the rule
But fate deals the hand that I see
The joker is me!
I don't care as long as there is a wild man in the deck
As long as I see his frown
Then I won't be lonely, that's a fact
I stand here and wait for his sound, ha, ha, ha
The joker is me
the joker is me
The joker is me
(Included lyrics from the Lady Ga Ga version to see how it would work. I think it's fine but....who knows 😂)
Most over-hated movie in history
real
I kept thinking “thank Christ, it’s finally about to happen.” Him wielding the revolver around randomly was awesome and true to the joker character. The stool, and gavel, great. And then the worst shyamalan twist😒
"Shyamalan twist" 😂
This scene is the closest Joaquin Phoenix’s Arthur Fleck has gotten to being like Joker from the comics. He sings and dances while killing people at his own trial. It’s probably my favorite scene in the movie.
Then of course shortly after this scene he basically says, “The Joker’s NOT me” 😂
I really loved this movie!
Aaaa my favourite scene! ❤
1:38 Gaga is as hot as hell in every scene in this film
bro she is normal
Simp!
Beautifull voice!! I love you Arthur (Joaquin Phoenix)🤩🍷🚬🗿
Best song and musical sequence in the movie imo
Why couldn't have the rest of the musical numbers been like this?
CINEMA! 🃏🔥
The best scene in the entire damn movie😂❤❤
I've been looking for this for EVER
Been waiting for this scene to be uploaded.
Why wouldn’t Todd Phillips just made him the real joker. SMH
I know he was so good in this looks like something you’d see in Batman the animated series
@ I just love Joaquin phoenix as the joker. He’s perfect.
One of the most intense moments when they still laughed at his pain😢🤡
WOW!! Joker: Folie A Deux is AWESOME!! I watched Joker: Folie A Deux on October 4th!! A MASTERPIECE!!💜💚💜💚
No it's not
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Underrated and misunderstood movie
It's not misunderstood. Nothing about it was subtle. It just wasn't good nor consistent with the first movie.
Huh...no. sorry, but no.
Even excepting the wrong flaws that stupids like to talk about, it's not a good movie at all.
Not a good movie, not a good sequel, not a good musical, not a good Joker movie.
@@Jester_Jingles Quentin Tarantino disagrees. Dude, I've seen a ton of people say that the guy that kills Arthur at the end is a young Heath Ledger Joker. A lot of people straight up believe in total bullshit when it comes to this movie
@@Maxime_G I disagree
@@whereami2477 that's your argument ? "Quentin Tarantino" ? Do you even know what he said ?
If people are stupid, here it's because the movie's so bad that they try to connect it with someone better to give it some sense
One of the best scenes in this brilliant unique movie!!
Nice troll
Why is that? Coz we don't think the same?! 😏
@@TheVeganJOKER no, 'cuz you're just wrong. If you liked the movie, good for you, but that doesn't make it good
And then he folie a deuxed all over the screen
Joaquin can folie whatever he wants to deux to me 😍
Best scene in the whole movie
This movie could've been better if the scenes aren't arthur's imagination
This scene in particular should’ve been in reality
And how would that work
@@adamtel9105You talking to me?
@@adamtel9105Actually, it can
It could work like the Murray Scene but musical
@@adamtel9105If there wasn’t any music in the background and it was just him singing that it could work
the best song in the movie and the other one that was peak was the montain one
No. Arthur Fleck isn't the Joker. I was the Joker for deciding to watch this film
Me after finishing this movie: 3:22
if the musical parts were more like this, a sort of sadistical fantasy, they’d make for a much better element the movie. i mean the rest of the character arc would still make no sense 😂 but it’d have been much better.
3:00 gaga had always reminded me of harley back in 2015 (yes, i've also watched suicide squad & margot was aight) but i called it that gaga would make a very unsettling harley if they made one in a very different universe. haven't seen this yet & i've heard she wasn't utilized enough, but damn this captured what i thought back then!
Movie was trash but I liked the cinematography and acting
This is all a perfect build up for the Joker to summon his Persona. True cinema indeed
Very good movie imo
Even thou I hate the movie but this scene is gloriously good
My fav scene of this goat film
The fact he turns out to not even be “the joker” automatically ruined both movies for me. The first movie ended ambiguously so even if you didn’t think Arthur would become the Batman villain, it didn’t confirm whether he was or wasn’t. This scene is pure joker from the comics and animated versions so that ending reveal was really stupid.
It didn't ruin the first movie for me because the sequel doesn't feel like a sequel I can watch this sequel like a "what if" instead of a sequel
Arthur was the Joker's first host or the Joker was Arthur's shadow but left him for another host when Arthur gave up. The Joker is a demon fed by narcissism, that's why there are many Jokers, but the same demon. Joker is a mix of the shadow and the trickster in Jung's archetypes, not a real person.
@@johnmartinskyrie I really hate what they did in this sequel because Arthur is gone at the end of the first movie, there isn't any duality anymore, he said that to his mother that the Joker is his real persona, that's the reason I don't think this sequel is canon.
@@johnmartinskyrie I just read The 3 Jokers and I recommend people read that. There are 3 Jokers in this movie. Just sayin
@@norm-bb3bb Don't forget that Arthur was a good man who had a bad day. In psychology he was an abused people pleaser. All he wanted was attention and recognition. His shadow was this narcissistic monster known as Joker that he finally embraced when the medication he took wore off. When he was arrested and put back to Arkham, they put him back on stronger meds and the shadow/Joker was put back in chains until he had with Lee another motivation to stop them again and let the Joker out. The Joker as a spirit feeds on anger and narcissism thus the lack of compassion. But near the end, Gary reminds him not only that he loved him, but that Arthur was also capable of love. The process of redemption started there, and the true love of the cellmate that the guards killed played the final role in his redemption arc. With that amount of love/light, there was no more place for the shadow. The Joker had to find another host. The Joker really is a demon, not a person. Childhood traumas are often triggers that open doors to that kind of spirit. Joker 2 in a way is a redemption story. Arthur maybe got rid of Joker out of love for Gary who was scared of that entity.
Best movie scene ever!
I really love this song, the joker is me~~
this really is the perfect joker. Just a normal guy willing to do the craziest things. If he was in a world with super heros and he was just a guy banging them over the head with a gavel it would be so dope
I love the movie 🥰
I liked the first 40ish minutes but the more it went on the more iffy it got…except for this part which I kinda liked
I actually like this part of the movie
History will be very kind to this movie, which doesn't even deserve a tenth of the rabid internet hate it's gotten from people who never even saw it.
The problem is gaga is a raging woke nutjob that thinks she can grow a penis.
4 some particularly reason, the one where he bust them upside there head with a stool & the hammer while entertaining had me laughing 😂😂😂😂
This is one of the only songs and Scenes I liked in the film 👍
If only he embraced the power instead of giving it up. Number 1 rule about the Joker never feel bad. This is the only good part of the movie
If that happens, the film would have been successful.
I really enjoy this part
this theory is gonna sound rather stupid, considering th fact that the director said that arthur wasn't the real joker, but just hear me out for a second.
You might remember that in the ending Arthur gets killed by someone else right? I believe that this happened in his imagination, meaning that it was like a sort of symbolism of his "Joker" personality getting rid of his human side (the human side being Arthur)
Don't listen to Todd, he's a fool , he said in the first movie that Arthur is the mask and he's the real Joker, and you're theory makes sense because that inmate looks like a hallucination from Arthur, a TH-camr had the same theory.
Una de las ejores peliculas Joker 2
Several minutes later and Arthur died from getting shanked from a *British clown man* 💀
My favorite part of the movie
The Joker is me.... We were straight up lied
Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker is really awesome! For me, he would be my third favorite Joker.
1. Mark Hamill
2. Heath Ledger
3. Joaquin Phoenix
4. Jack Nicholson
Todd Phillips: There is no joker
@@EJP3076 blame the director..Joaquin Phoenix deserves a better director and story for his Joker.
@homelander858 No it was that he had a dream he sang as joker. That was just what initiated the premise of the film. The story was Phillps.
@@Jester_Jingles yep, true.
@@salmonfish2197Yeah, I agree. Despite what the movie was, I still believe Joaquin is a great Joker. The real problem was Todd not letting his Joker shine. Same with Lady Gaga as Harley.
This scene just proves how much better the movie would have been had they made an actual Joker movie and not the steaming pile of feces the rest of the film sadly was
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