I’m ngl I found this to be a very interesting and creative way to open the movie as it really sets the tone of how Arthur loved being Joker in the first film but in this movie, he’s at war with himself and his Joker persona and wants to run from the Joker’s shadow.
Which I found a bit contradicting the first movie ending. Arthur went to the Murray's show with intent to kill himself on public as he didn't saw point to continue his miserable life. But eventually embraced his dark side at the last point because he didn't want the joke to be on him anymore. Why then he would struggle later with the new found purpose in life and want to get back to who he was if nothing holds him to the past? Him being "Arthur Fleck" sucked and Joker acknowledged that several times in the original movie
@@Ocelot835I think Todd Phillips didn’t want people idolizing The Joker, so he pivoted in the second movie. Not the right choice in my opinion but it turns people off from being copy cats.
So I’m starting to realize that ‘Folie a Deux’ is not strictly about Lee and Arthur, but more about Arthur and The Joker persona. OBVIOUSLY, given the video we see. This madness is also spread to the audience that is influenced by this shadow, such as the supporters at court and that one particular inmate. It’s a bit of a coincidence that this movie came out so closely to ‘Batman: Arkham Shadow’ because there are a lot of parallels between the two.
I’m in the minority who didn’t mind the sequel, but does agree that it wasn’t necessary or needed. But man, this is by far one of my favorite sequences from the movie. As someone who grew up watching Looney Tunes when I was a toddler, this made me smile. I do hope that with the success of “The Day the Earth Blew Up: A Looney Tunes Movie,” WB and other studios start to become a lot more interested in doing traditionally animated theatrical shorts and films in theaters.
When I first saw the opening, I was like, "What everyone talking about, it's looking good so far," and then you know I watched the first 30 minutes of the actual movie than I left the theatre and bought Brian Azzarellos Joker comic because that felt more like the Joker than this movie
Он не лучше, а можно сказать это и есть фильм Джокер 2. Напм проспойлерили всё что будет, а потом это показали как оно есть. Что сначала у него признание все дела, а потом кучка охраны сделала вот таки он окончательно не хочет быть ярким
I dont think this cartoon retells us the ending of the first Joker, rather what happened immediately after. Joker got his followers back to Murray's studio and preformed infront of his rioters, perhaps as a celebration of his new Joker persona. But since he's preforming, and thus can be picked from the crowd, the police seized this opportunity to arrest him AGAIN, thus why he's in Arkham Asylum awaiting trial in the second movie.
People don’t understand silent storytelling anymore. This isn’t just some cartoon. It does a lot for the movie if you understand what it’s telling you. Edit: Why am I surprised that I got dumbass replies of people putting words in my mouth. I never said I liked the movie. I never said this is why everyone hates it. I’m just implying that it’s over hated. It isn’t “dogshit” or “terrible” as everyone is describing it. It’s only kinda bad.
In the directors commentary to Joker 1 Phillips talks about Arthur's shadow, so these Jungian themes have been present in Phillips mind from the outset.
I only saw this opening from the entire bootleg recording of this movie. And in many ways, you can tell that, believe it or not, it's done by Sylvain Chomet, the same guy who did The Triplets of Belleville, The Illusionist and the upcoming Magnificent Life of Marcel Pagnol.
The animation itself is flawless - a great work. However the subject matter of the animation completely retcons the ending of script to the original _Joker,_ by introducing the narrative device of the, "shadow."
@@PhantomScion I see, but I don't remember if the Nine Old Men used police violence, blood and crime in their animation subject. Also, I believe Disney Nine Old Men used many frames in their works as many stretch and squish.
I don't get why people love this introduction scene so much. Yes, the animation is cool af, but It still forshadows the end's horrible character twist. That being, Arthur was never the real Joker. It was just the 'dark side' or '*shadow*' of himself who comitted the crimes.
People act similarly to the "the Joker" musical scene, saying its the only time he is really "the joker" in the film... yet that whole scene pretty unsubtly (if still metaphorically) shows the entire main theme of the film or at the very least the next ~30 minutes. Arthur is being more performative and looking for excuses and attention, Arthur actually feels quite miserable, the Joker is just what he turned to for catharsis/a coping mechanism, etc. People just want to the most surface level power fantasy interpretations of both these films and are mad the sequel doesn't let them do that in the end.
The film is called the joker, supposedly based on a character who's been around since 1941 called the joker, but didn't in fact feature anything in it that's even reminiscent of the joker. If they made an adaptation of king lear, and none of what's in the play ended up on screen, that would be just as annoying.
@@Rigatonidolmio Yes and no, I believe this duology was dissonantly based on the Joker comic book character and world from the start. If it wasn't it clearly would have been more superhero/villain-focused rather than sociopolitical, and I like myself a bit of homage and influences from the DC universe as addition to that story the director Todd Phillips wanted to tell.
@max4furious I didn't mind the first one stripping back the joker to just the basics, it was interesting to see someone who had issues, but was something similar to an everyman, being swallowed up by a cruel world and spat back out as the joker. But in this sequel, there's nothing like that. I wasn't expecting comic book supervilliany or anything like that, the first one never tried to set that up, but no version of the joker would ever disavow his own existence. That's become key to his character, once he's descended into that madness, there's no going back, and he revels in it. I think a huge problem of the film was that it lacked a fundamental grasp of good and evil, and the joker is supposed to represent evil in the modern world. It was a problem in the first too, in that batman's story was under represented as the jokers opposite, but such a balance is completely lacking here. It came across as a very transparent exercise in narcissism and nihilism, from a studio desperate for money, a director desperate for respect, and an actor desperate for another Oscar. Edit, also I've no idea where they were going with the songs. It's so obvious to say that it's petty, but never in all the comics I've read of this character, have I ever got the impression that he fantasises about starring in musical numbers. It was just bizarre, and not in a good way.
@@Rigatonidolmio Joker has been known to sing in some animated adaptations like shows and movies, but other than that I see where you're coming from. I essentially came into this film with an open mind, though expecting beautiful cinematography, an interesting story that doesn't have to be Joker-related, decent musical numbers, and whatnot and ended up watching something with my brother that be both agree was an impactful and wild film. I believe all the hate it gets is somewhat fair as movies that betray the audience are more hit than miss to be fair and I just happened to be the minority with a positive opinion on the film that wasn't swayed much by the negative feedback. How I see Arthur in this film at this point is that its more or less his fall, the first once was about the rise of Joker if anything. And the point of everyone and society wanting him to be Joker came across quite often when truthfully he just wanted compassion and understanding and still does. It's what brought him down the path he went on in the first movie, and its why in this one he gave up being Joker. The world was never kind or cared about him, even when achieved his fame which ended up being parallel to Murray. In the end, the ending story of a broken man wanting help which we got got does not seem to be as appealing to most as a clown prince of crime who wants to challenge morality and push forth a dangerous idea of absurdism. I am chill with both ideas.
@@max4furious thing is though, if he wanted to sing, he'd do it for real. If he wanted to sing and tap dance in a nightclub, he'd lock the place down, force everyone to watch, and do it for real. He doesn't fantasise about anything, he literally just goes and does whatever he feels like doing. That's key to the character. It doesn't even hold up that he was in custody, the point is, if he wanted to do those things, he'd find a way out and do them, especially when there's a cult of personality build up around him that could set him free anytime he wanted. And there's just no way he'd ever give up being the joker, even if he knew how to. Even if he didn't just do the things he did out of instinct, which he does, he's such a narcissist and so in love with his own persona that he would always choose to revert to it in any kind of crisis, regardless of what anyone thought about it. He fully owns his identity and role as the joker, what others think of it wouldnt even be a concern to him. The fact is the joker is an evil character, a victim of a cruel world, maybe, but his own desires and choices have led him to become something far worse than anything he ever had to endure. For a character like that, there are no limits. Thats what makes him so dangerous. I really think Phillips failed to grasp that, and that's what led to the mess of joker 2. Either that or he just didn't care, I dont know. He stayed on his ranch in the middle of nowhere during opening weekend so i think he's just resigned himself to the fact that he may have killed his own career.
I knew that the opening to this film was going to be a cartoon segment because it was said on IMDb trivia. I was not expecting something like this at all. I was expecting it to be like the Birds of Prey opening scene.
Honestly the movie would have been more entertaining if Arthur had fully embraced his Shadow-Joker persona, spontaneously bursting into songs while causing chaos and being all comedic about it
Just realized that while this cartoon seemingly is unrelated to the rest of the film, it actually foreshadows the theme of Arthur and Joker being two different personalities
It’s not about them being different personalities, but about the joker being the metaphorical shadow that Arthur created, the expectation people have of him and who he believes he needs to be to be accepted, while being completely self destructive, locking himself inside a metaphorical locker and hurting who he truly is/wants to be in the process
@@ermanbumaguin8063 the movie intentionally flopped because 1. The message of the movie is about the love for the "little guys" in society. And Arthur in becoming the joker ultimately hurts Gary (the analogy for the audiences who romanticized and misunderstood the first movie and ultimately was wrongly-influenced by it). Arthur reflects and understood that what drove him to become the joker is the lack of love, and see that, as the song suggested here, what the world needs now is love. Not revolutionist ideals or romantic fantasies. The audiences in real life leaves the movie just like the supporters in the movie leaves Arthur, for betraying them. Todd purposefully want people to walk away from this movie, from Joker. 2. Also, Todd want the wb execs to stop bothering him about the sequel so he made the movie into crap for that. Lady gaga being confused about why people hate the movie is just hilarious to me. But that said, yeah, the movie wasn't without it's flaws, it has many. Especially the part where they kills him (which was done to make sure WB couldn't revive the series again, but it really hurts the narrative.). It wasn't too shallow by any means. It's not citizen kane but i do think people judged this film too quickly. The execution could have been better (even without the purpose of being intentionally bad. the "humiliation ritual" scene is one of them.), but the messenge it tries to send is a sweet one to me.
@@弘睿甫Okay, you got so many things wrong. Philips made this move because he’s a bitter lazy old man who just could’ve said no but didn’t. Gary doesn’t represent the teenagers, he’s just a wasted character whose role could have been bigger and more meaningful. And the supporters are everyone leaving because the movie was a pile of shit. Literally, the only reason why people still think about this movie is because we want to know if WB intentionally knew this would happen or not.
@@弘睿甫 if todd phillips was going to make a film out of spite, he should have fought harder not to make it at all, and wb turned out to be goofies blinded by the fantasy of making another billion dollar box office
@@liamerolduffy7738 i didn't present them as a fact, it's my read on it. Also you didn't really make any arguments here at all. Your answer to why i am wrong is just saying "because you are wrong"
The only bad part about this intro is that it didn't have any sense with the rest of the tone of the movie. Maybe if the ending was a an over-the-top musical number where Harley sings That’s Entertainment, acting out a theatrical, musical version of the plot from the two movies. The final chorus like: “The world is a stage... the stage is a world... of entertainment.” then he takes Harley and gives her a kiss, with cartoon hearts popping up, as a Looney Tunes-style outro plays. The movie would end, forming a full circle from the cartoon intro. Everything stays surreal enough to keep people guessing about what really happened. So, we still get the mystery, plus a fully realized Joker at the end. Everyone’s happy, and we get a 60% on Rotten Tomatoes, haha!
I would watch an entire movie with this animation style
The director of this segment made a movie called the triplets of belleville, which is pretty similar
@@michelerusso9745I love triplets of Belleville
@@Lolakitten78haven’t seen it, what’s it about?
@ it’s about a grandma trying to find his cyclist grandson from the mafia with the help of three singing triplets
@@Lolakitten78 i love how random it must sounds to someone who has never seen it
I wish 2D animated movies were in theaters again.
Same here! More 2D animated Disney and Warner Bros flicks, fr!
I think movies are too long especially superhero films
If it was a particularly short movie I wouldn’t mind a short cartoon
The Day The Earth Blew Up comes out at the end of February! Spread the word!
@@Chris-on4jp Oh, don’t worry. That’s my most anticipated movie of 2025, I’m going to see it.
是非とも日本に来てください。
一年中、手描きアニメが放送されています。
年間の興行ランキングTOP10はほとんどアニメです
Im a manager at a movie theater I’d always make sure to do my theater checks at the beginning because I really liked this part.
Just only show the first three minutes of the film and nothing else. Period. Actually would make a lot more money, ngl.
@ agreed
I’m ngl I found this to be a very interesting and creative way to open the movie as it really sets the tone of how Arthur loved being Joker in the first film but in this movie, he’s at war with himself and his Joker persona and wants to run from the Joker’s shadow.
Which I found a bit contradicting the first movie ending. Arthur went to the Murray's show with intent to kill himself on public as he didn't saw point to continue his miserable life. But eventually embraced his dark side at the last point because he didn't want the joke to be on him anymore. Why then he would struggle later with the new found purpose in life and want to get back to who he was if nothing holds him to the past? Him being "Arthur Fleck" sucked and Joker acknowledged that several times in the original movie
@@Ocelot835I think Todd Phillips didn’t want people idolizing The Joker, so he pivoted in the second movie. Not the right choice in my opinion but it turns people off from being copy cats.
This is probably the best scene in the whole movie
this quite literally sets the tone, approach, & themes for the entire movie ❤
So I’m starting to realize that ‘Folie a Deux’ is not strictly about Lee and Arthur, but more about Arthur and The Joker persona. OBVIOUSLY, given the video we see. This madness is also spread to the audience that is influenced by this shadow, such as the supporters at court and that one particular inmate. It’s a bit of a coincidence that this movie came out so closely to ‘Batman: Arkham Shadow’ because there are a lot of parallels between the two.
I’m in the minority who didn’t mind the sequel, but does agree that it wasn’t necessary or needed.
But man, this is by far one of my favorite sequences from the movie. As someone who grew up watching Looney Tunes when I was a toddler, this made me smile. I do hope that with the success of “The Day the Earth Blew Up: A Looney Tunes Movie,” WB and other studios start to become a lot more interested in doing traditionally animated theatrical shorts and films in theaters.
This and the Gary scene are the most redeeming moments of the movie
The actual best part of this movie
The opening cartoon > the actual movie
Even then it makes no sense that there would be a show about joker
When I first saw the opening, I was like, "What everyone talking about, it's looking good so far," and then you know I watched the first 30 minutes of the actual movie than I left the theatre and bought Brian Azzarellos Joker comic because that felt more like the Joker than this movie
Facts
Yeah
Literally, bro! It actually looked like the movie had potential at first! What were the writers thinking afterwards is just beyond my comprehension.
This pretty much encapsules what the movie was trying to say, a lot faster and a lot better.
And it also did it without needing to use r@pe to make Arthur realize this.
@@MardenNewAcc omg grow up
@@gaynarchist bro what??
@@gaynarchist ???
Yes thats the entire point of this scene, good job
The best part of the movie.
This is all rubbish
@@VcrgsebfFSFbnodbvdelete your account kid
This and the courtroom scene with Gary
@@TheSweetTeaGuyReal
@@VcrgsebfFSFbnodbvnot all, most but not all
How is this 3 minute animated short better than the rest of the movie?
Он не лучше, а можно сказать это и есть фильм Джокер 2. Напм проспойлерили всё что будет, а потом это показали как оно есть. Что сначала у него признание все дела, а потом кучка охраны сделала вот таки он окончательно не хочет быть ярким
Lady Gaga isn't stealing the limelight here with all her singing.
The three policemen beating him foreshadows the three prison guards beating him later in the film.
i thought they raped him
I think those are suppose to be the same guys
"Beating"
And his death
Classic Todd Phillips. Totally incapable of subtlety.
As a Tom and Jerry fan I give them credit for doing this 😂
Don’t you mean Looney Tunes?
merri melodies actually
@@Nicholas_Chen_ it meant to be Merrie Melodies and Looney Tunes, but it looks more like Ralph Bakshi Aninated Films in the 70s and early 80s.
Real.
My favorite part of the movie
0:56 - I never noticed they just use a photograph of Robert De Niro there! 🤣
It would be cool to see an animated Joker movie , in this style of animation , or at least an animated TV show like this.
Конечно
Yes yesss ot shorts
Shoutout to animated sequences in live action movies
Gotta be one of my favorite genders
I love it shows cartoon version of what he actually looks in cartoon form. Brilliant!
1:40 Sung by NICK CAVE
The best part of the movie
0:41 The clown on the right is holding the same sign that Arthur was hit with at the beginning of the first
Seeing this in the theater was sick asf it’s like gremlins 2 opening I love it.
This segment is probably the only best part about the actual movie itself.
well yeah all movies can only have one best part
@@BillyBobFergusondon't start
@@JoeChillton fym don't start 💀 it's a good movie
Gary. Puddles.
Yep. The rest is like eating rice cakes while watching paint dry.
Love how the “good” version is also wearing joker makeup, they are both the same
I saw the movie and I can sadly say… this was the best part!
When only the best part can be seen for free, you did something wrong!
This is the best movie opening I ever seen before
That's genuinely depressing you haven't seen that many movies
@ I think you should more respect other guys opinion or subjective thought thank you
@ ight
what do you think abt the dp and wolverine opening?
@@Sp1d3rCh3f I think is very cool in other words I’m very glad to talk to English with you pal because I’m Korean recently I learning about English
Best part of the movie, it was all downhill from here
LOVED this part!❤
I miss this kind of cartoons
Amazing start to an amazing film.
Saw this film and loved it but I did miss the beginning cause of my damn dad. Really wanted to watch this cartoon beginning.
This is better than the animated stuff we get now 😂😂😂
Delete your channel fake animation fan. 🙄
I dont think this cartoon retells us the ending of the first Joker, rather what happened immediately after. Joker got his followers back to Murray's studio and preformed infront of his rioters, perhaps as a celebration of his new Joker persona. But since he's preforming, and thus can be picked from the crowd, the police seized this opportunity to arrest him AGAIN, thus why he's in Arkham Asylum awaiting trial in the second movie.
I never thought of that. We never saw how he got arrested again after the car crash.
Best opening scene of 2024, Looney Tunes rated R!
This part is the highlight of the movie. The next two hours are as dull as rice cakes.
Esta animación de al principio de la película es lo q le da sentido a la película y lo que veremos a lo largo de ella
Why does it take a movie 2 hours to say what this short says in 3 minutes? 😂
01:13 a callback to Joker kissing Dr Sally from the first film
People don’t understand silent storytelling anymore. This isn’t just some cartoon. It does a lot for the movie if you understand what it’s telling you.
Edit: Why am I surprised that I got dumbass replies of people putting words in my mouth. I never said I liked the movie. I never said this is why everyone hates it. I’m just implying that it’s over hated. It isn’t “dogshit” or “terrible” as everyone is describing it. It’s only kinda bad.
In the directors commentary to Joker 1 Phillips talks about Arthur's shadow, so these Jungian themes have been present in Phillips mind from the outset.
Nothing silent about it.
It’s not subtle at all, everyone understands it
Oh you a big boy you understood the most barebones unsubtle visual storytelling
So we're all dumb for hating the movie then? We can understand what he's going for with the toon
I only saw this opening from the entire bootleg recording of this movie. And in many ways, you can tell that, believe it or not, it's done by Sylvain Chomet, the same guy who did The Triplets of Belleville, The Illusionist and the upcoming Magnificent Life of Marcel Pagnol.
Why couldn't the whole movie be like this 😔
The animation itself is flawless - a great work. However the subject matter of the animation completely retcons the ending of script to the original _Joker,_ by introducing the narrative device of the, "shadow."
a lovely introduction.
the animation was very good❤🎉
I LOVE THIS "CARTOON SCENE" OF JOKER: FOLIE A DEUX THOUGH, BECAUSE I REALLY, REALLY LOVE "CARTOONS" THE MOST.
Ok
when a 3 minute recap cartoon is better than the rest of the movie
Ik that this video will get deleted soon, but just wanted everyone to know that this was phenomenal
Amazing this intro
This and the HISHE short should have been one whole movie instead of what we got.
When I saw this (enjoying it) I also wondered what Joaquin Phoenix thinks of this, it's basically him in cartoon form 😁
WOW!! Joker: Folie A Deux is AWESOME!! I watched Joker: Folie A Deux on October 4th!! A MASTERPIECE!!💜💚💜💚
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@@SigvaldtheMagnificentPrince hi Bot.
@@o-shawnspecific80 Warner bros have bots commenting how good the movie is
@SigvaldtheMagnificentPrince sure they do. Or maybe the Internet just has trolls who follow the hype and can't formulate their own opinion.
Great musical melody ! Thx for the upload
THANK YOU FOR POSTING THIS! I loved this movie and thought this was such a creative and awesome opening to the movie!
It looks like Ralph Bakshi animated films around the 70s and early 80s more than Looney Tunes.
Those were rotoscoped.. This is all hand drawn. It's more aching to classic Nine old Men Disney.
@@PhantomScion I see, but I don't remember if the Nine Old Men used police violence, blood and crime in their animation subject.
Also, I believe Disney Nine Old Men used many frames in their works as many stretch and squish.
This movie is so fucking epic. kill me But i love it
Garbage
Обожаю Джокер 2
@@clintparker9700Your life? Haha
It's a great film that pisses off whiny little bitch ass DC fan girls. I love it.
🃏 I LOVE IT 🤩
I don't get why people love this introduction scene so much. Yes, the animation is cool af, but It still forshadows the end's horrible character twist.
That being, Arthur was never the real Joker. It was just the 'dark side' or '*shadow*' of himself who comitted the crimes.
People act similarly to the "the Joker" musical scene, saying its the only time he is really "the joker" in the film... yet that whole scene pretty unsubtly (if still metaphorically) shows the entire main theme of the film or at the very least the next ~30 minutes. Arthur is being more performative and looking for excuses and attention, Arthur actually feels quite miserable, the Joker is just what he turned to for catharsis/a coping mechanism, etc.
People just want to the most surface level power fantasy interpretations of both these films and are mad the sequel doesn't let them do that in the end.
Best segment of the whole movie
It's a very good movie, not a Batman movie but a great movie.
It was garbage.
It had nothing to do with batman
Отличный фильм
@@Oscar-z3d bro thought he added to the conversation
@@TAPE_W0RM
Did the film even added Bruce Wayne? Noi don't think so
This animation I incredible
Love this movie
This is better than the rest of the movie 💀💀💀
The moment I saw this opening I knew the film was gonna be a 10/10 masterpiece, shame on the haters. They only cared about Joker, not Arthur.
The film is called the joker, supposedly based on a character who's been around since 1941 called the joker, but didn't in fact feature anything in it that's even reminiscent of the joker.
If they made an adaptation of king lear, and none of what's in the play ended up on screen, that would be just as annoying.
@@Rigatonidolmio Yes and no, I believe this duology was dissonantly based on the Joker comic book character and world from the start. If it wasn't it clearly would have been more superhero/villain-focused rather than sociopolitical, and I like myself a bit of homage and influences from the DC universe as addition to that story the director Todd Phillips wanted to tell.
@max4furious I didn't mind the first one stripping back the joker to just the basics, it was interesting to see someone who had issues, but was something similar to an everyman, being swallowed up by a cruel world and spat back out as the joker. But in this sequel, there's nothing like that. I wasn't expecting comic book supervilliany or anything like that, the first one never tried to set that up, but no version of the joker would ever disavow his own existence. That's become key to his character, once he's descended into that madness, there's no going back, and he revels in it. I think a huge problem of the film was that it lacked a fundamental grasp of good and evil, and the joker is supposed to represent evil in the modern world. It was a problem in the first too, in that batman's story was under represented as the jokers opposite, but such a balance is completely lacking here. It came across as a very transparent exercise in narcissism and nihilism, from a studio desperate for money, a director desperate for respect, and an actor desperate for another Oscar.
Edit, also I've no idea where they were going with the songs. It's so obvious to say that it's petty, but never in all the comics I've read of this character, have I ever got the impression that he fantasises about starring in musical numbers. It was just bizarre, and not in a good way.
@@Rigatonidolmio Joker has been known to sing in some animated adaptations like shows and movies, but other than that I see where you're coming from. I essentially came into this film with an open mind, though expecting beautiful cinematography, an interesting story that doesn't have to be Joker-related, decent musical numbers, and whatnot and ended up watching something with my brother that be both agree was an impactful and wild film. I believe all the hate it gets is somewhat fair as movies that betray the audience are more hit than miss to be fair and I just happened to be the minority with a positive opinion on the film that wasn't swayed much by the negative feedback. How I see Arthur in this film at this point is that its more or less his fall, the first once was about the rise of Joker if anything. And the point of everyone and society wanting him to be Joker came across quite often when truthfully he just wanted compassion and understanding and still does. It's what brought him down the path he went on in the first movie, and its why in this one he gave up being Joker. The world was never kind or cared about him, even when achieved his fame which ended up being parallel to Murray. In the end, the ending story of a broken man wanting help which we got got does not seem to be as appealing to most as a clown prince of crime who wants to challenge morality and push forth a dangerous idea of absurdism. I am chill with both ideas.
@@max4furious thing is though, if he wanted to sing, he'd do it for real. If he wanted to sing and tap dance in a nightclub, he'd lock the place down, force everyone to watch, and do it for real. He doesn't fantasise about anything, he literally just goes and does whatever he feels like doing. That's key to the character. It doesn't even hold up that he was in custody, the point is, if he wanted to do those things, he'd find a way out and do them, especially when there's a cult of personality build up around him that could set him free anytime he wanted.
And there's just no way he'd ever give up being the joker, even if he knew how to. Even if he didn't just do the things he did out of instinct, which he does, he's such a narcissist and so in love with his own persona that he would always choose to revert to it in any kind of crisis, regardless of what anyone thought about it. He fully owns his identity and role as the joker, what others think of it wouldnt even be a concern to him. The fact is the joker is an evil character, a victim of a cruel world, maybe, but his own desires and choices have led him to become something far worse than anything he ever had to endure. For a character like that, there are no limits. Thats what makes him so dangerous. I really think Phillips failed to grasp that, and that's what led to the mess of joker 2. Either that or he just didn't care, I dont know. He stayed on his ranch in the middle of nowhere during opening weekend so i think he's just resigned himself to the fact that he may have killed his own career.
Now just imagine if the movie was good.. damn what a perfect opening
Jeez! I haven't seen a movie fall off after an impressive intro since Hype William's 'Belly'!
I knew that the opening to this film was going to be a cartoon segment because it was said on IMDb trivia. I was not expecting something like this at all. I was expecting it to be like the Birds of Prey opening scene.
There’s a song called Sidekick by a Artist named (Jokerr) it’s a song that I believe fits perfect with this.
the animation is a foreshadows from what is gonna be on movie
Fore Shadow… lol
The 3 best minutes in the film, maybe the only good 3 minutes
Honestly the movie would have been more entertaining if Arthur had fully embraced his Shadow-Joker persona, spontaneously bursting into songs while causing chaos and being all comedic about it
Joker 2 is 9/10 for me ❤
Holy crap this is incredible.
It’s like an actual looney toons cartoon!
It says a lot about our society!
Gypsy crusader cartoon, hell yeah!
Subscribed to this channel! Thanks for putting these songs of joker on TH-cam
It's probably the only fun part of the movie
Just realized that while this cartoon seemingly is unrelated to the rest of the film, it actually foreshadows the theme of Arthur and Joker being two different personalities
It’s not about them being different personalities, but about the joker being the metaphorical shadow that Arthur created, the expectation people have of him and who he believes he needs to be to be accepted, while being completely self destructive, locking himself inside a metaphorical locker and hurting who he truly is/wants to be in the process
I didn't see the movie yet and thought this was fan made for a minute until i read the comments.
Beautiful animation 😭
It is sad that not everyone is not able to understand the movie
מה יש להבין, 2 סרטים שלא הלכו לשום מקום בסוף הוא חוזר להיות הלוזר האלמוני שהיה בהתחלה והג'וקר האמיתי הוא חקיין, מה עשיתם מזה איזה סרט עמוק😂😂
@@ermanbumaguin8063 the movie intentionally flopped because
1. The message of the movie is about the love for the "little guys" in society. And Arthur in becoming the joker ultimately hurts Gary (the analogy for the audiences who romanticized and misunderstood the first movie and ultimately was wrongly-influenced by it). Arthur reflects and understood that what drove him to become the joker is the lack of love, and see that, as the song suggested here, what the world needs now is love. Not revolutionist ideals or romantic fantasies. The audiences in real life leaves the movie just like the supporters in the movie leaves Arthur, for betraying them. Todd purposefully want people to walk away from this movie, from Joker.
2. Also, Todd want the wb execs to stop bothering him about the sequel so he made the movie into crap for that. Lady gaga being confused about why people hate the movie is just hilarious to me.
But that said, yeah, the movie wasn't without it's flaws, it has many. Especially the part where they kills him (which was done to make sure WB couldn't revive the series again, but it really hurts the narrative.). It wasn't too shallow by any means. It's not citizen kane but i do think people judged this film too quickly. The execution could have been better (even without the purpose of being intentionally bad. the "humiliation ritual" scene is one of them.), but the messenge it tries to send is a sweet one to me.
@@弘睿甫Okay, you got so many things wrong. Philips made this move because he’s a bitter lazy old man who just could’ve said no but didn’t. Gary doesn’t represent the teenagers, he’s just a wasted character whose role could have been bigger and more meaningful. And the supporters are everyone leaving because the movie was a pile of shit. Literally, the only reason why people still think about this movie is because we want to know if WB intentionally knew this would happen or not.
@@弘睿甫 if todd phillips was going to make a film out of spite, he should have fought harder not to make it at all, and wb turned out to be goofies blinded by the fantasy of making another billion dollar box office
@@liamerolduffy7738 i didn't present them as a fact, it's my read on it. Also you didn't really make any arguments here at all. Your answer to why i am wrong is just saying "because you are wrong"
Would have been cool to see Joker in a more traditonal cartoon style with the putple suit and no eye or nose makeup
Clearly this and Lady Gaga is where most of the budget went into.
_SWEET LOVE_ 🃏✨👌💯
The only bad part about this intro is that it didn't have any sense with the rest of the tone of the movie. Maybe if the ending was a an over-the-top musical number where Harley sings That’s Entertainment, acting out a theatrical, musical version of the plot from the two movies. The final chorus like: “The world is a stage... the stage is a world... of entertainment.” then he takes Harley and gives her a kiss, with cartoon hearts popping up, as a Looney Tunes-style outro plays. The movie would end, forming a full circle from the cartoon intro. Everything stays surreal enough to keep people guessing about what really happened. So, we still get the mystery, plus a fully realized Joker at the end. Everyone’s happy, and we get a 60% on Rotten Tomatoes, haha!
I think this scene replayed on a loop for 2 and a half hours would be better than what we got
This was animated by the guy who did The triplets of Belville
The fact that The Joker's fucking SHADOW had better writing than him
Absolute kino
THIS IS AMAZING!
Also the sound the police make is hilarious
So this is where the budget went.
When I first saw this intro, initially I thought “Am I watching the wrong movie?”
This Animation is Amazing!
I still can't figure out if this movie is a misunderstood masterpiece or a complete waste of time. Or both.
Thanks for posting!
Most underrated movie I've seen, someday it'll be considered a classic
...no.
The movie sucks.
This is the ONLY good part of the film.
No
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@@clintparker9700it’s crazy how many different scenes I’ve seen people say the exact same thing about as you just did
Best scene in the film
Watching this in cinema had the same feeling of watching a GTA V Movie
Arthur kind of reminded me of Trevor Phillips
This was way better than the actual film
Ohhhhhh... Hold on a minute, this is actually from the movie, isn't it? Not made by you... This is utter gold out of context.
It's silly, but funny