I suppose anything that keeps a person on the ground is a good thing from a safety point. But the scaffold tower is probably handier and quicker in the long run.. and cheaper. Great video Dave thanks for sharing.
It looks a great tool I just wandering on narrow places if can do the job so far on open areas there is not problem That is my question, obviously the price It's another factor How much are you going to charge to the customers ...!!!
Dave I have never known an industry like windows/gutters/roofs that brings out so much new equipment all the time. No price on the Ionics site but considering it's over £8k Sterling in the US this might be difficult to sell.
@@AlexRie1987 fair enough. I saw the product itself for £8100 on a US site. Fair play to anyone that wants one, but £19000 over 5 years is over £300 a month. I think I'm to old for this sort of shenanigans anyway 😂
@@Hoverwash-rr1uk still depends what it includes in that price though. As I said in my original comment I have never known an industry like it for bringing out new equipment all the time.
Is the unit shown in the video a preproduction prototype? The exposed wiring and lack of Ingress protection around the control panel will corrode any wiring in no time
I love the idea of this but in my opinion its very property (and access) specific, doesnt save a huge amount of time and takes longer to set up than a scaff tower. Plus the cost makes this extremely unobtainable for most. Hopefully they can scale this up to make it more affordable.
@@tihbm it take me an my guy 20 minutes to put up a tower. Cost is irrelevant as it’s down to location and the business doing it but you couldn’t use this on a new build estate for example.
@@tihbm yeh of course larger jobs will always be better but based on the cost of the equipment plus the rarity and difficulty to find the perfect jobs for this set up it just doesn’t make sense to buy it plus it’s not usable at every job. Obviously earnings per hour will depend on what you charge but based on the size just looking this job would be close to £2000
@@KirbsideCleaning Most people have been using the Roof Wand as a single person setup so far. You're immediately cutting the cost of labour, plus working safely from the ground. Steve - from this video - is completing roofs by himself in half the time it's taking people working off towers. We have some testimonial videos on our channel from business owners that use towers and cherry pickers that have switched to using the roof wand. Obviously we want you to come on a training course, but for good reason. You'll get to learn first hand from Steve who has cleaned over 300 roofs using this method now 👍
@@ionicsystemsUK completely understand that in certain situations it’s would save some time but the time factors and labour saving is certainly outweighed by the cost. It’s just my opinion and I don’t do hundred of roofs a year but if you did then I’m sure it’s defiantly worth the investment. All I’m saying is for almost all the roofs I’d completed this year you wouldn’t have been able to clean the sides due to access issues so it would mean either bring a tower and an additinal staff member as well as the kit, it doesn’t make sense to me based on the jobs iv completed but I’m sure for some it would be a great investment 👍👍
Yes sometimes I need to stand on a neighbours property to clean a side pitch. To date this has never been a problem and as a result I’ve ended up cleaning plenty of neighbours roofs.
Looks good on the front and rear but the sides surely need nice neighbours to work from their gardens. Looks good for some jobs and I bet coming from Ionics it's not cheap. From an engineering point of view it looked a bit like a prototype.
@squeakycleandave1 the only price list available on ionics site is 3 packages all monthly payments over 5 years. Maybe you'd have to ring them to get a purchase price. Either way a hefty chunk of change.
@@AlexRie1987 I hadn't seen that until I scrolled right to the bottom of the page. Fair play to anyone who wants to give it a go but wow that's alot of money.
How did they donthe sides of the roof. They needed to be a long way back. Looks like a cool but of kit, but can you really see what you're doing from the ground.
They did the sides from the next door neighbours gardens. It’s pretty clear from the ground and even if you miss some slight patches it’s still a better clean then scrapping it. It is biocided so anything missed will come clean like it does on a scrape
It’s amazing how some companies don’t know or don’t care that they are damaging their customers roofs. Are they cleaner? Yes, but applying pressure especially with turbo nozzles is 100% significantly shorting the roof’s lifespan. The granules on the shingles are there to protect the roof. They are not on there for decoration purposes. The roof manufacturing companies and siding companies all have the same cleaning recommendations. Where I live you would instantly lose any warranty if you clean using this method. Applying pressure like this will remove at least half of the granules and loosen most of the rest. When you have moss or lichen have roots so when you blast them off then it should be common sense what is coming off as well. If you educate yourself and put your pride to the side then educate yourself on the proper use of soft washing and allowing chemicals to do the work. Doing this will kill all the algae, mold and moss then it not only is done much more effectively and efficiently it will also stay cleaned for at least 2-3 years longer without damaging the roof since the all the algae is eliminated not just what you but what you don’t see. You apply your house cleaning solution with a low pressure (no more than 300 psi) and after allowing the cleaning solution time to dwell you can rinse it off after everything is killed by using a low pressure to rinse it off or have Mother Nature to do the rinsing. Roofs are not concrete so hopefully some of you will have an open mind and learn the proper ways. I’m not selling anything but instead hoping for some of you to learn the proper methods of cleaning exterior surfaces.
Don’t think it would be for my business I think it’s a little restrictive to property size. A lot of my work would be 3 bed semi I’d need to be on other side of street with that set up. Cudos for thinking outside the box though.
Price for this job was £1500 reduced slightly so the customer would let us film. It took one operator just under 8 hours to complete. Filming slowed the job down but not by much.
A pole with turbo nozzles and a tripod to stabilise is not exactly a radical idea. Surrounding space to allow work to commence was my first thought. If the prices that others have mentioned are true then it’s pretty laughable.
Scott, you will most likely be sued in the US for destroying your customers roofs using this method. You never use high pressure to clean a roof or siding.
I can do this roof under 30-45 minutes and it will not just be more cleaned on what you see but also what you don’t see. That way the cleaning results will last 2-3 years longer and it won’t destroy the customer’s property.
In My honest opinion there's no way your cleaning a roof that quick. The Clean up alone takes a couple of hours, with Gutters, Facias, footpaths and Windows. The tower for me is much better for roof cleaning as you can take of the brunt of the moss and follow with Biocide treatment that has to be dry to apply for best results. It's not all about how quick you can clean a roof. It seems all too rushed. I think if your powerwashing roofs your opening up a can of worms , yes some roofs lightly pressure washed but with neighbours next door and spray going everywhere it's not for me. Just my opinion.
Steve is particularly quick with the Roof Wand as he has been using this system for a few years now during development and running his own roof cleaning business with the kit. Whilst you can clean roofs quicker with this method, the main benefit is being able to complete jobs from the safety of the gound 👍
1,Based on bits flying everywhere alone this is not good set up and spraying BIOCIDE with this?!?lol hope you have fully comprehensive in palce m8 spray drift will cover half of the neighborhood 2.having to go around with soaked,dirty,rotting,smelly,covers ?!?messy business… 3.complicated bulky set up with lots of ongoing maintenance and hefty starting price 4.Very limited application due to space requirements and reach limitation best of luck with multi dimensional multi level roofs ,you still need the scaffold for most jobs , logistically makes little to no sense 5.hope you have big van with loads of space and even more of the time and patience to get this in and out in one piece without losing your mind 6.That clean up job afterwards …?!?Jesus Christ in heaven …the entire place covered uptatits with muck …?No thank you very much. 7.Ionic Systems = Overpriced +Overcomplicated ,definitely not accessible or practical for most users and applications. 8.Summarized mathematically to other available methods again makes no sense. 9. Interesting exercise aimed to reinvent the wheel resulting ultimately in lead ballon. 10.Thank you for trying any way ,every effort is appreciated.
The chemical he used is barely having any effect. Using the correct dilution ratio and the correct chemicals and surfactants you will see the moss turn white and then it will start turning brown. When it turns brown it’s ready to come down.
I suppose anything that keeps a person on the ground is a good thing from a safety point. But the scaffold tower is probably handier and quicker in the long run.. and cheaper. Great video Dave thanks for sharing.
Worked with Steve years ago, got to test the first prototype of a lorry system he designed which minimise holes in the highway. He`s a top bloke.
Brilliant concepts coming out in this game,id hire one depending on property,thats for sure.
We're running the next BWCA training course February 29th if you would like to try it for yourself and learn from Steve 👍
Great one of the best videos I’ve seen on this product nice to see you again Dave
Really interesting Dave 👍
Steve is a beast, best in the business
For 1 operator to set up around the back and start cleaning took circa 20 minutes which included putting tarpaulins over the extension .
It looks a great tool I just wandering on narrow places if can do the job so far on open areas there is not problem That is my question, obviously the price It's another factor How much are you going to charge to the customers ...!!!
As a general rule If you can see it from the ground you can clean it
We have a video on our channel of Steve cleaning a roof within a tight garden, limited access. Spolier: he makes light work of it!
Dave I have never known an industry like windows/gutters/roofs that brings out so much new equipment all the time. No price on the Ionics site but considering it's over £8k Sterling in the US this might be difficult to sell.
£19,000 spread over 5 years on their site if you get the full system package
@@AlexRie1987 fair enough. I saw the product itself for £8100 on a US site. Fair play to anyone that wants one, but £19000 over 5 years is over £300 a month. I think I'm to old for this sort of shenanigans anyway 😂
@@kevdubbleyou yeah not for me at that sort of money either🤣
Ionics has just brought out a base model which is circa 5K.
@@Hoverwash-rr1uk still depends what it includes in that price though. As I said in my original comment I have never known an industry like it for bringing out new equipment all the time.
Is the unit shown in the video a preproduction prototype? The exposed wiring and lack of Ingress protection around the control panel will corrode any wiring in no time
Yes I think this is an older model
I love the idea of this but in my opinion its very property (and access) specific, doesnt save a huge amount of time and takes longer to set up than a scaff tower. Plus the cost makes this extremely unobtainable for most. Hopefully they can scale this up to make it more affordable.
@@tihbm it take me an my guy 20 minutes to put up a tower. Cost is irrelevant as it’s down to location and the business doing it but you couldn’t use this on a new build estate for example.
@@tihbm time wise would be a 4pm finish I recon with full tidy up
@@tihbm yeh of course larger jobs will always be better but based on the cost of the equipment plus the rarity and difficulty to find the perfect jobs for this set up it just doesn’t make sense to buy it plus it’s not usable at every job. Obviously earnings per hour will depend on what you charge but based on the size just looking this job would be close to £2000
@@KirbsideCleaning Most people have been using the Roof Wand as a single person setup so far. You're immediately cutting the cost of labour, plus working safely from the ground. Steve - from this video - is completing roofs by himself in half the time it's taking people working off towers. We have some testimonial videos on our channel from business owners that use towers and cherry pickers that have switched to using the roof wand. Obviously we want you to come on a training course, but for good reason. You'll get to learn first hand from Steve who has cleaned over 300 roofs using this method now 👍
@@ionicsystemsUK completely understand that in certain situations it’s would save some time but the time factors and labour saving is certainly outweighed by the cost. It’s just my opinion and I don’t do hundred of roofs a year but if you did then I’m sure it’s defiantly worth the investment. All I’m saying is for almost all the roofs I’d completed this year you wouldn’t have been able to clean the sides due to access issues so it would mean either bring a tower and an additinal staff member as well as the kit, it doesn’t make sense to me based on the jobs iv completed but I’m sure for some it would be a great investment 👍👍
Yes sometimes I need to stand on a neighbours property to clean a side pitch. To date this has never been a problem and as a result I’ve ended up cleaning plenty of neighbours roofs.
The main advantages for using this kit is safety, cleaning efficiency, quick set up , versatility and build quality.
How much does this kit cost
How did you do the sides of the roof. You ever mentioned or film on this. I would like to know. Thanks
He did them from the neighbours garden.
Looks good on the front and rear but the sides surely need nice neighbours to work from their gardens. Looks good for some jobs and I bet coming from Ionics it's not cheap. From an engineering point of view it looked a bit like a prototype.
I thought exactly this. And the price is £19k over 5 years on finance apparently 😬 (someone replied to my comment above).
It's definitely not cheap but you can get a lot of work done with it in a day
I'm not 100% sure of the cost but I don't think it's that much unless it's the cost of the finance that puts it up to that. @@kevdubbleyou
@squeakycleandave1 the only price list available on ionics site is 3 packages all monthly payments over 5 years. Maybe you'd have to ring them to get a purchase price. Either way a hefty chunk of change.
@@AlexRie1987 I hadn't seen that until I scrolled right to the bottom of the page. Fair play to anyone who wants to give it a go but wow that's alot of money.
How did they donthe sides of the roof. They needed to be a long way back. Looks like a cool but of kit, but can you really see what you're doing from the ground.
They did the sides from the next door neighbours gardens. It’s pretty clear from the ground and even if you miss some slight patches it’s still a better clean then scrapping it. It is biocided so anything missed will come clean like it does on a scrape
There will 100% be properties you can't do with that bit of kit for access
Not for me, good luck with it whoevers involved with it
@@craigbirrell2732 we have video testimonials of businesses currently using the kit 👍
Wish i would have a free trail for this machine. How do you get the undersides of the tile roofs?
Not sure what you mean by the undersides???
We're running the next BWCA training course February 29th if you would like to try it for yourself and learn from Steve 👍
It’s amazing how some companies don’t know or don’t care that they are damaging their customers roofs. Are they cleaner? Yes, but applying pressure especially with turbo nozzles is 100% significantly shorting the roof’s lifespan.
The granules on the shingles are there to protect the roof. They are not on there for decoration purposes. The roof manufacturing companies and siding companies all have the same cleaning recommendations. Where I live you would instantly lose any warranty if you clean using this method.
Applying pressure like this will remove at least half of the granules and loosen most of the rest.
When you have moss or lichen have roots so when you blast them off then it should be common sense what is coming off as well.
If you educate yourself and put your pride to the side then educate yourself on the proper use of soft washing and allowing chemicals to do the work. Doing this will kill all the algae, mold and moss then it not only is done much more effectively and efficiently it will also stay cleaned for at least 2-3 years longer without damaging the roof since the all the algae is eliminated not just what you but what you don’t see.
You apply your house cleaning solution with a low pressure (no more than 300 psi) and after allowing the cleaning solution time to dwell you can rinse it off after everything is killed by using a low pressure to rinse it off or have Mother Nature to do the rinsing. Roofs are not concrete so hopefully some of you will have an open mind and learn the proper ways. I’m not selling anything but instead hoping for some of you to learn the proper methods of cleaning exterior surfaces.
Don’t think it would be for my business I think it’s a little restrictive to property size. A lot of my work would be 3 bed semi I’d need to be on other side of street with that set up. Cudos for thinking outside the box though.
👍Same the majority of my cleans are three bed semis. So far no problem. If I’ve got the space I’ll use it if not I’ll work short or from an angle .
1.5 hours as 30 quid an hour, not bad.
How do you clean the flank end from the alleyway ?
He did them from the neighbours
Are you just using pressure or is it steam cleaning? Also do you treat the roof after??
It’s just pressure and quite low and it’s treated with a biocide after
@@squeakycleandave1 do you not damage tiles with it???
Price for this job was £1500 reduced slightly so the customer would let us film. It took one operator just under 8 hours to complete. Filming slowed the job down but not by much.
Why does it cost £1500? That's a right bit is it not?
A pole with turbo nozzles and a tripod to stabilise is not exactly a radical idea. Surrounding space to allow work to commence was my first thought. If the prices that others have mentioned are true then it’s pretty laughable.
I was always told if you have nothing good to say, don't say anything at all. Therefore my mouth is sealed shut on this.
What about the sides of the roof?
He did those as well. I just didn’t include them in the video
@@squeakycleandave1 with the same tool? Does not seem like there is enough space.
Yes he did them from the neighbor's garden@@PottersWindowCleaning
Not sure about all that biocide spraying about tho
Must admit I was a bit concerned about that
If the conditions aren’t suitable we will use a WFP, backpack and spray nozzle, or use a Safe wash.
Nice 👍🦾🦾🦾🦾
Can it do cedar shake???? Can you get this in the US
Never tried on cedar shake. If I did I’d swap out the rotating nozzles for 2 x fan jets.
@Hoverwash-rr1uk probably not available in the United States 😕
Scott, you will most likely be sued in the US for destroying your customers roofs using this method. You never use high pressure to clean a roof or siding.
Providing your marketing is good pay back on investment is quick. Work comes via referrals , passing trade, social media and website.
Take my money!!!
I can do this roof under 30-45 minutes and it will not just be more cleaned on what you see but also what you don’t see. That way the cleaning results will last 2-3 years longer and it won’t destroy the customer’s property.
In My honest opinion there's no way your cleaning a roof that quick. The Clean up alone takes a couple of hours, with Gutters, Facias, footpaths and Windows.
The tower for me is much better for roof cleaning as you can take of the brunt of the moss and follow with Biocide treatment that has to be dry to apply for best results. It's not all about how quick you can clean a roof. It seems all too rushed. I think if your powerwashing roofs your opening up a can of worms , yes some roofs lightly pressure washed but with neighbours next door and spray going everywhere it's not for me. Just my opinion.
Steve is particularly quick with the Roof Wand as he has been using this system for a few years now during development and running his own roof cleaning business with the kit. Whilst you can clean roofs quicker with this method, the main benefit is being able to complete jobs from the safety of the gound 👍
I wonder how they’ve cleaned the sides of the roof 🙄🙄
From the next door garden
1,Based on bits flying everywhere alone this is not good set up and spraying BIOCIDE with this?!?lol hope you have fully comprehensive in palce m8 spray drift will cover half of the neighborhood
2.having to go around with soaked,dirty,rotting,smelly,covers ?!?messy business…
3.complicated bulky set up with lots of ongoing maintenance and hefty starting price
4.Very limited application due to space requirements and reach limitation best of luck with multi dimensional multi level roofs ,you still need the scaffold for most jobs , logistically makes little to no sense
5.hope you have big van with loads of space and even more of the time and patience to get this in and out in one piece without losing your mind
6.That clean up job afterwards …?!?Jesus Christ in heaven …the entire place covered uptatits with muck …?No thank you very much.
7.Ionic Systems = Overpriced +Overcomplicated ,definitely not accessible or practical for most users and applications.
8.Summarized mathematically to other available methods again makes no sense.
9. Interesting exercise aimed to reinvent the wheel resulting ultimately in lead ballon.
10.Thank you for trying any way ,every effort is appreciated.
I couldn't believe what I saw with them applying biocide like that! So dangerous 😳
Typical ionic another over priced pile ov rubbish
If you have your own pressure washer the base model price is 5K
Still solving a problem that wasn’t really there mate if you have to gain access to neighbours to do the sides it ain’t worth it mate@@Hoverwash-rr1uk
The chemical he used is barely having any effect. Using the correct dilution ratio and the correct chemicals and surfactants you will see the moss turn white and then it will start turning brown. When it turns brown it’s ready to come down.