I just realized, Roboute couldnt meet Dante's Gaze cause he was wearing Sanguinuis's face. He couldnt look Sanguinius in the eyes without remembering of his failure
@@lavatun”my lord, it would take supernatural power to pull off” “Dante, Dante, Dante… I DO have supernatural power, it’s called being RICH lmao you brokie, now fix this place up. My bitches have castles, and this is not a castle”
"Lord Regent. I it would be allowed may I ask one small boon?" "Of course, if it is within my power I will provide it, my son." "Please tell me of my gene-father. The truth of the man he was, not the legends we are taught in the scholia as children." Dante's face showing but the slightest hint of emotion as he spoke his request. Robute's face showed a moment of sorrow, then he smiled. "Of everything the legends say of my brother, this one thing is most true; Sanguinius was the greatest among us. What I respected most about him, and as I am shamed to admit quite jealous of, was how easy it was to like him. Of us all, he was the only to befriend each of our brothers. His presence bringing the warmth of brotherly love from those brothers who rivalries were not unlike hatred."
To continue the story: Guilliman looks up to the sky as if expecting his brother to descend from them as Dante steps towards the parapets and looks over the desert. Dante: "My father was many things to the blood. Gene-sire, primarch, legend. But perhaps the more important thing that he was, was a brother to you, my lord. I sense your solitude and sorrow having awoken to a broken empire such as what we have now." Dante looks up to Guilliman whose gaze still affixed to the sky. A sense of kinship fills Dante as he looks at the primarch despite them not sharing lineage. Guilliman:"He was my brother, yes. As i have said he was the best of us. We had him then but now he is not with us. But his blood runs strong in your chapter, his sons and all your successor chapters share this strength as well. Let us look to ourselves on matters that concern the now but not forgetting his memory for though i may want him here with me, i have no power to pull him from death. We must move forward with what we have now." Dante looks down at the helmet he held in his left hand. The one thing he had of his father that he could hold. Dante:"yes, my lord. Our father, your brother may be long gone but his teachings and blood still indeed runs strong in us and we will endure. My deepest gratitude for the small kindness you have given me." Guilliman averts his eyes from the sky to now look at dante. His right hand pointing to sanguinuis' helm. Guilliman:"keep it safe, dante. For though you are the one who bears it in battle, it is my brother's face etched on it."
Guilliman is right in building up the Empirium into something beautiful and worth defending. More of the galaxy should have been more like the 500 worlds of Ultramar.
he is probably the only living being(outside of chaos) who really know what the imperium should have been and what the great crusade was trying to accomplish.
Ahhhhhh this comment really hit the feels, the idea of Poppa Smurf looking down at Dante and him looking back up at him not knowing why a demigod now looks both happy and sad all of a sudden.
Indeed, I thought the same thing too. Must be why Guilleman didn't mention Sanguinius name when he speaks to Dante. Guilleman is just too lonely at the moment. He wanted to have someone that he can speak to openly. He needs his actual brothers. The chatty ones would be nice haha.
@@anastasiosgkotzamanis5277 i thought that either 1- sanguinius' soul is trapped on the vengeful spirit 2- he got split into the sanguinor and mephiston
@@rayhankazianga6817 thing is his soul is not trapped in the vengeful spirit, since he was able to manifest to a dying Dante, telling him it isn't his time yet.
Everyone is overlooking something very important here. Guilliman, who lived through Warmaster Horus's betrayal of the Emperor himself; arguably just decided to appoint what is essentially ANOTHER WARMASTER. We KNOW Gulliman understood the irony, dangers and given his character even the potential HYPOCRICY of doing this. Thats how worried and perhaps even frieghtened Guilliman is about the state of the Imperium. He is attempting to succeed where even his father failed...
Akios Eres Mah man, you need to read up the dark imperium novels, Bobby G, said multiple times when he woke up he regretted slimming down the legions to chapters he felt he made a mistake and then he starts the indomitable crusade and basically broke the rules with the primarius guys I think the are the “unamed sons” or something like that but yeah Bobby ultimately sees his flaws in wreaking the astartes and changes the rules my HOMIE lolol
Horus fell to Chaos simply because he was open-minded. The Blood Angels and its sucessors chapters are true believers of the Imperial cult, with Dante always setting an example. They'll be fine.
It's not lost on him, he knows the indommitus crusade was waged by a legion in all by name (Unnumbered Sons) and had to broke them off into the existing chapters and new ones for that reason And when Mathieu, his apostle, goes against his orders and kick-starts a series of events that save him he gets furious with him because his actions caused imperial forces to fight each other, reminding him too much of the heresy
@@Halfort57 I think it is the Black Templars who are the only "true" Imperial Cult followers among the Space Marines. The Blood Angels, like most other Astartes, revere the Emperor but don't actually worship Him as a god. And Horus didn't fall to Chaos because he was open-minded. He fell because he had always been very ambitious and arrogant, and the Dark Gods used that to manipulate him into turning against the Emperor. But I agree that the Blood Angels should be fine. They inherited their Primarch's humility and nobility.
@@wessex8031 He is still human thou. And honestly, Dante, an Astarte, borderline has more numerous achievements than him. He is older than him too. Maybe not bigger achievements, but still very very many achievements. It would surprise everyone. I can understand the compliment.
Guilliman saying "We need to be better" gives me chills. He truly is a great primarch. The one the imperium truly needs in its darkest times. Not only is he intelligent but he is also kind and cares about every citizen of the imperium.
@@antonkukoba3378 technically, couldn't you call Astartes non sexed anyway? Except for the EC's of course who spend all their time fapping to serpent Hentai... and of course the Lion who likes clapping Alpha legion cheeks in that gay bar in the basement of the rock... (sorry... I think I'm overdosing on MajorKill again)
Your presentation is so different to other 40K channels, with your relaxed and friend-like demeanour. I see great things in your future, Rho. Great content good sir.
Wolf Lord Rho’s channel like stopping by the house of that neighbor who will excitedly share the cool bits from the book he’s reading while you play with his dogs. 🙂
@@SilentHotdog28 Everyone, and I mean everyone, no matter their rank or importance, knows that Dante has had that dog in him longer than any of them have been alive. He’s the equivalent of the 65 year old knight everyone is shit scared of bc no matter how old he gets, he can and will throw down with anyone, including SPOLERS FOR THE ARKS OF OMEN: Angron. Him and his sanguinary guard straight up jumped angron when he was summoned
I love the fact that Guilliman seems determined to make the Imperium actually more than just a mass of haughty nobles with planets of serfs to slave for them in a monster beaurocratic machine , like it seems so common sense to me that " if every minute of your life is shit and the devil offers you a cheeseburger , would you really turn him down?" logic of his is , and why it seems NO ONE in the ENTIRE IMPERIUM has ever considered the idea that making the worlds they live in NOT shit might actually close off roads to the eternal enemy , just boggles the mind.
Because Slaanesh exists too, and look at our world. Countries get rich, birth rates drop to shit, people start putting things in their arses. Imagine that on a galactic scale. I'll take my chances with working them so hard they don't have time to have emotions except despair and hope, and not too much of the latter. Having everyone destitute allows some radicalization which can be dealt with, giving people time to think about things is what needs to be avoided. Come on mate get your head out of your arse.
@Ved Singh I mean if you want to get real with that conversation, youtube will just delete my comments, the stats are verboten. But regarding 40k, and the extrapolations I draw from that, the framework is "survival of humanity" and within that, the subjugation of humanity to that end is fine, and a good thing in my opinion.
Thats the main reason the Emperor launch the great crusade and the reunification .. So that all human in the galaxy would live like the golden age if possible.. Unlike the current emperium now that almost hell like it self.
@Ved Singh You wouldn't consider it poverty because you would be properly indoctrinated to consider it a voluntary sacrifice, or you would be executed for heresy. I dont know what you don't get here.
Plz be aware that im not super deep on 40k lore, i just watch it on and off. Guilliman is something of an oddity in 40k. A demi god from the distant past awakening into a universe he barely recognizes. Unlike others though, he's actually setting about to do something about it. And sense right now he is quite litterally THE final say on any matter, he's not afraid to do it. He's keenly aware that he'll probubly ruffle somones feathers (no pun intended) as he goes. Appointing dante is practical but also helps solidify that he's not trying to throw out the old guard. Improving the imperium from the ground up also seems to be another of his goals. A weak foundation speaks ill of the house built upon it. And the imperiums foundation has been shaky at best for a long time. I doubt guilliman can solve all the problems or that he's fool enough to try. But he seeks to be doing what he can, where he can.
I just realized I listen to these stories for therapy. Brothers who honour each other and know their place and purpose in the great world. As it should be.
The line about seeing a Dataslate in his hands more than Weapons is perhaps the most interesting line of the story. It encapsulates what it means to command - and that for all his Fury on the Battlefield, the real battle is won and lost in Logistics, supply, organization etc.
Something to consider about the relationship between these two - Gulliman is a Primarch and the greater of the two in terms of power and authority, but Dante his actual elder. Gulliman dates from more than ten millennia ago, sure, but he spent the vast majority of that time in stasis. His active lifespan was nowhere near Dante's 1500+ years, and even though he knew and was taught by the Emperor and served in the Great Crusade and the Heresy, his experiences are a fraction of what Dante's been through. Superhuman demigod or not, Gulliman's obvious respect for Dante is perfectly understandable. To have lived so long, to have fought for the Empire for so long, and without the benefits of being a Primarch is beyond amazing. Gulliman fell in combat to one of his brothers and was left behind by time. Dante has lived through a millennia and a half and never truly met lasting defeat, not even at the hands of his own traitorous brethren. Which of them is truly the better servant of the Emperor in the end?
Gulliman did conquer 500 planets in less than a decade before being found by the Emperor.....i mean that a lone saved a lot of time during the Great Crusade. He lead the Great Scouring and reclaimed all that was lost from the Horus Hersey and created the Codex Astartes. Also fought back the 13th crusade and stabilized the Imperium and saved Terra from Khorne... Pretty efficient for servant whos been around for a few centuries.
Really interesting point. Do we know from the lore how old Guilleman is? Other factor here is that Robby G is a demigod; he’s experiencing existence at a pace far greater than Dante, so chronological age wouldn’t be be determinant between them? There’s a cool moment in ‘Know No Fear’ where we see this about Guilleman; he processes something like 1200 data bulletins in fifteen minutes whilst thinking of something else entirely.
Papa G is a conquerer, A leader, and Was part of Horus Heresy... The Horus Heresy alone gives Guilliman ten fold of experience then dante and rebuilt the imperium.
The age in which they both live are different. The times of Guilleman was of the age of crusades. The conquest age to reclaim back worlds with vast legions. The times where Primarch walks among men. The times of Sanguinius. The times where Dante served was the time of bitterness and hopelessness. The age where men had fallen to such an extent where dying would be a better choice. He persevere through it all and that itself was a miraculous deed no one can and could challenge anytime soon. Guilleman respects that and he probably even hoped that Dante could live longer until a successor comes. The Lion still slumbers.
Considering the Blood Angels already know so much about their Primarch, they seem to have the most complete memories of their gene-father, they still have their home world, many, many relics, what new knowledge could they gain from such a conversation.
@@kelman727 I dont think so. There is no objective argument to support that. All that you wrote are just your subjective wishes. On the other hand, presence of information is always objectively better than lack of it.
Empire Empire By definition there is no such thing as an objective opinion or argument. What an absurd point. It is also ignorant of writerly craft and basic plotting, and seems to even take pride in it. Guilliman only shows up at the very end of the novel after Dante has already broken the back of the Hive Fleet. The plot is resolved; no new situations or events must be introduced. Egregious info-dumping at this point merely highlights shoddy construction.
Nice touch Guilleman, humanities supreme existant being requesting to join Dante and his brothers. ''May I join you?'' The sincere humility of a being with such power and presence uses manners, a common trait of decency throughout all humanity. The author goes on to emphasise and reiterate this in the following paragraph.
I've always wondered how an astartes of another chapter would view a Primarch (not theirs), this sums it up brilliantly, with utmost respect and it seems that Guilliman really does see these Astartes as his Nephews, which was awesome. He really respects and cares for Dante, doesn't just see him as a pawn. I feel like Guilliman is one of the few perfect Primarchs, along with Vulkan and Sanguinius in terms of how they view humanity and care for others. I wish Vulkan and Sanguinius were still around to lead with Roboute, those 3 are the best Primarchs, along with Russ (becuase he's badarse).
Guilliman sees the old wolf arrive on his wolf drawn sled. Logan Grimnar or I hear they call you the old wolf. No... as grimnar looks off into the distance. my fenrisian brethren have given me another, and ill bear it till my dying breath... they call me.... Viking Santa Clause
Didn’t the fel-handed know and fight beside. Papa smurf? That conversation would be most interesting indeed...even it it was not, bjorn is of the 30k. He remembers what was... wouldn’t that be something to have him start a bew chapter of the Russ and put him at the head of those primaris to kickass and take names...I guess i can dream...
@@HammarPwnsYourFace I don't think Dreadnoughts can be Chapter Masters. Otherwise the Fel Handed would still be Chapter Master. I think he was the first chapter master when Russ left. It's crazy that the Fel-Handed may the only person left in the Imperium that was from Guilliman's time.
@@blackmark2899 there was a dreadnought as a chapter master of a blood angels successor chapter back in the Blood Angels Omnibus with Rafen, i can't remember who it was or what chapter offhand but i do vaugely remember that
Had Matt Ward written this the final line would have been. "As Dante looked upon his new Spiritual Liege leave, he felt a overwhelming sense of sadness. Dante then knew why all the Grey Knights really had wanted to be Ultramarines."
To be fair, Bjorn has always been taciturn in every one of his depictions. I think he would get along really well with Rogal Dorn, but I have a feeling Bjorn would find Guilliman a bit stuffy for his liking, and it's likely that Guilliman would be unimpressed with the SW chapter *STILL* not adhering to his codex. But I mean, if Bjorn was able to knock back some barrels of mjod with the man, they could both get along famously, I think. As soon as they both removed those pesky sticks from their bums :P
@@brigandboy1425 why though Gulliman came back and Immediately threw out the codex. So why's he care? And if anyone can chat with him about the old days, like a brother. Which is well known he desires. It can ONLY be Bjorn. For now anyway
Going by the Dante's tertiary mission to better mankind, I can see him appointing Chapter Master Tu'shan of the Salamanders to be his right hand man: both highly respected by the Blood Angel's, despite his lack of seniority, with the ability best suited for building ties with the populace. A skill that every other Chapter could only hope to emulate.
Yes, that would be a great idea, especially since the Salamanders and the Blood Angels are best buds. These two Chapters are among those who care the most for common people of the Imperium, and them teaming up would totally make sense. It's too bad Nocturne and Baal are on different sides of the Great Rift, so this alliance is virtually impossible for now.
@@Saber2793 Not necessarily. Appointments can be lead by a delegation of those who embody Salamander ideals, giving us a cache of models and story options for GW, and still operate under Dante's influence. Selecting 'Sally Chapter Master as the honorary head would still add prestige, and direct Guilliman's eyes to another capable master on his end. Something he can use to expand a similar remit on his end. ...Giving the Salamanders a Imperial remit, and not just a partial role. Add a 2-3 named Salamanders, and flush-out the squad with assigned Blood Angel attendants for flavour/"look out sir" roles. This fluff is already seen under Tycho's grave monument's honour guard. Naturally, this squad detachment could replace Dark Imperium members with Ultra Smurfs, Primaris, etc to represent different factions or locations.
@@7hart2 If you're talking about a limited or token presence, as is the case with various monuments and Space Marine honour guards throughout the Imperium, then yes, it can be done. What I'm saying is that Chapter-wide cooperation between the two Chapters is improbable for now. The Blood Angels cannot abandon the Imperium Nihilus, and the Salamanders won't leave Nocturne defenceless, too many hostile forces active nearby. They could still send a sizeable force if Guilliman completely negates his limitations on Chapter size, though.
"Dante had seen tools of administration in guilliman's hands more often than weapons" there you have it! Lord commander is the technocrat primarch that's why papa E loves him so much I guess 🤔
I really love how much effort the writer put into showing genuine good leadership from Guilliman and being subtle with the issues he may bring. Even just reading about his words here makes it hard to disagree with him.
*Guilliman:* Commander Dante, you served the Imperium with a diligence few can match. *Dante:* Thank you m'lord, but I am quite weary, perhaps retiring after all these centuries might do me go... *Guilliman:* In recognition of your efforts, I appoint you to command part of the Imperium, escalating your stress and responsibilities a thousand fold. *Dante's mind:* 😡 This blue cheese didn't listen to a word I said
I agree that they missed a shot at Dante asking about Sanguinius. When Guilliman reinforced Rynn's World he spoke to Kantor about Dorn (albeit very briefly!). Devastation of Baal was a brilliant read. Thank you for the video! Great work.
Guilliman stresses the point of Dante removing the mask more than once. You have to wonder if Dante bearing his brothers' likeness offends him in some way. Especially considering the line "There is no need for you to bear the Angels' likeness when a real primarch walks among you."
Mega-Buster Shepard very real since Guilliman has really only been back into the fold since the heresy for such a short time. It literally must be like yesterday for Guilliman.
@@mega-bustershepard5537 I hadn't really considered that. Papa Smurf hasn't been back all that long so the heresy era is probably still fresh in his mind.
neilnightblade Gulliman was in the middle of the Scouring when he fell, then put in Stasis and woke up to M41. The Heresy for Gulliman was give or take to him less that 7 years.
Yea there might still be pain and sadness within him. And again like Dante said he is more like human so those emotion really logical. And there is also the point that Dante is trying to keep up with Sanguinius or be like him maybe.... How tiring that be.... To set yourself an expectation of a primarch..... For 2000 years? Just waw
Whenever Wolf Lord Rho makes a video, I almost cry. I would promote you to a reader of stories, and distribute all your readings across the Imperium. Damn. I would do that IRL. Let the children and workers listen to your voice, your stories. You are sure worth it. I'm damn sure you do.
This is one of my favorite channels. You really bring voice to these characters, and make the world of 40k feel... real. human. personable. I guess I have to start reading the books, now don't I?
I had to come back to this video after watching The Templin Institute's video on Lord Commander Dante. Such a great moment between two heroes of the Imperium.
The writing here... so fuckin crisp and beautifully done. You know these men are basically gods and at the same time as human as any of us. The burdens, the grandure, the sense of duty and forces of will they show even at rest. Incredibly done.
Removing the mask seems good to me. He is not Sanguinius, great as hawkboy was. In his own way, Dante is greater than any Primarch. He fought longer in realspace than any of them (as far as we know). He deserves to be recognized for himself, and his individuality. The mask distanced him from that for too long.
I can see your point, but by now the mask has become part of Dante, part of what he is. He’s recognised for his own deeds by friends and foes alike, and the mask is inseparable from his legend, just like the golden armour and the Axe Mortalis. So I doubt he’ll ever remove it for good, he’d just stop wearing it while talking to Guilliman.
I can't wait till see his interactions with the other first founding chapter masters...... wonder how the great wolf will take to him and his new Primaris Marines??
There is some sort of issue are roughly 7:05-7:12-ish. I would get stuck there every time. Even coming to your Channel proper. I had to FF a bit to get the audio to start playing again. :( Stops at The Genesis machines are working correctly, and then I had to skip to something about the Neophytes.
It could just be me, mate. No matter what I did, it just hung up there for about 5-7 seconds worth of audio. I was able to listen to the whole thing was I just FF past that section.
Guilliman has steadily increased in my books, since his return. So much character development. Cruel lives create Angrons...:( PS: son, as a term of endearment, not literal...:)
Regarding your background music (which is awesone), let's hear more about the mechanicus!!! Forges of Mars and The Great Work are exceptional, it has given me new perspective into the faction. They run parallel to the Imperium but not the same. Very cool stuff.
the last conversaton was SO GOD DAMN TRUE, i was thinking of that for so a long time, like the space marines have been fighting with the same horros the dark gods offer them, why would you choose to fight with people who has suffered the most, which actually learned to fight through the same horrors they were ment to destroy....what kind of messege that gives to the space marines? like they are the ones meant to destroy what they have become?, save the people who teaches them through the horrors they face? which is the difference between that and the despicable gods? instead, if they were to learn about the beauty, compassion, life, etc. They would never (as some chapters) even think to betray what they protect, as a man who fights for what he believes and love will fight till his last breath, till his last drop of blood, till the last gasp of his soul leaves the body, and even in death they would prevail.
it's simply terrifying how old the dante model is, it makes me feel so OOOOLD! I love this, I dont think anyone, even the Dark Angel's, Sanguinius was almost war master anyway
Devastation of Baal is genuinely a great read. As a long-time Blood Angels player on the tabletop, Dante being named Lord Commander was a great moment of recognition for a guy who has given over a millenium to every corner of the Imperium. I would also make the subtle distinction between emotion being a "weakness", which implies that being emotional is a flaw when it isn't, and it being a vulnerability. Something that is not inherently weak, but can be muddied and confused, which leads to uncertainty and insecurity. Emotion is a vulnerability precisely because it is such a point of strength. If you damage the strongest pillar of a structure, the entire structure may collapse.
Irony is actually having seen this and watched it once, but finding it again in my suggested feed and "misreading" it the second time. "wait... Guilliman disappointed Dante?"
Best story yet and why we all love Dante so much. I must admit even Girlyman is starting to impress me since his return. Writing is really good and this was so epic. Also can someone explain why they named an imperiam after nihilism? I mean I get it but it seems a bit too on the nose
i know this is just lore but: you fell for that charm offensive?? its like the president holding a baby, its like the king supporting an old sick man, all ive heard/ read whas that girlyman is sucking up to dante and makes use of both their feelings for sanguinius. calling him his brother, stating that there is so much dante has done. make him taking of his mask so he can be more intimidating and intense ,and all for having a loyalty forged to ''never let him down, i will not let you down, i know you won,t'' making it 3 times a promise. make no mistakes girlyman needs allies that put up with his shit and most important his upcoming shitstorm. he needs as many a world as many a system or segmentum on his side as he can. the only difference between horus and girlyman is that when horus did his charm thing even his brothers believed it.. and only loken saw tru its charade.. but we will see, i hope the stories get more intricate and interesting..
Love to know where Yiu got the background gothic music. It's what makes your videos stand out! Going to post this on every video in the hopes I'll get a reply :p
I agree with you on the idea of talking about his Dantes father. Something simple as a response. Probably something that you would not expect as an answer. Instead of how great and powerful he was, just the talk of his personality and will.
This just makes me think that guillaman is one of the few people that I think would consider an alliance with the greater good once the greater evils had been expunged, they could synergize and help make the worlds a great place to live
Bruh I could just imagine some random Xeno Civilization looking into the Milky Way Galaxy in WH40k when the Galaxy split in half lmfao Xeno 1: "Wtf is going over there" Xeno 2: "No clue, but sounds like a them problem" 10k years later *Tyrranids Arrive*
My favorite part wasn't just when Dante meets the Lord Regent, but when he's on his way to. Barely alive and sees his birth fathers face instead of the priests. But in all honesty the last few chapters has a few tear jerking moments. Im not a huge fan of the blood but damn that was a good read.
I just realized, Roboute couldnt meet Dante's Gaze cause he was wearing Sanguinuis's face. He couldnt look Sanguinius in the eyes without remembering of his failure
Guilt magnified exponentially....
Sage
Nice observation……….for an Ork.
Sorry, just had to make that joke 🤣
So you are saying that while Dante felt humbled under Guilliman's gaze, the mask meant Guilliman felt humbled under Sanguinius's gaze.
@@ThePathStrider maybe not humbled but guilt, shame,sadness, loneliness.. Robouté misses his brother, Sanguinus was pretty close to him.
"I have the resources, Dante. I will expend them as I see fit." Straight Imperial hero baller.
Polite primarch way of saying "bitch, i'm rich!"
@@lavatun”my lord, it would take supernatural power to pull off”
“Dante, Dante, Dante… I DO have supernatural power, it’s called being RICH lmao you brokie, now fix this place up. My bitches have castles, and this is not a castle”
@@3adgamd3r "you truly are top g, my lord."
@@3adgamd3r 😂😂😂😂😂
Dante, I'm promoting you to honorary primarch.
wait... what?!
Honorary half emperor.
Dante the new WARMASTER
@@rebeccaschroder3000 okay calm down
Wish they'd promote his model to honorary not crap
"Lord Regent. I it would be allowed may I ask one small boon?"
"Of course, if it is within my power I will provide it, my son."
"Please tell me of my gene-father. The truth of the man he was, not the legends we are taught in the scholia as children." Dante's face showing but the slightest hint of emotion as he spoke his request.
Robute's face showed a moment of sorrow, then he smiled. "Of everything the legends say of my brother, this one thing is most true; Sanguinius was the greatest among us. What I respected most about him, and as I am shamed to admit quite jealous of, was how easy it was to like him. Of us all, he was the only to befriend each of our brothers. His presence bringing the warmth of brotherly love from those brothers who rivalries were not unlike hatred."
If.. If only Magnus did nothing wrong.
To continue the story:
Guilliman looks up to the sky as if expecting his brother to descend from them as Dante steps towards the parapets and looks over the desert.
Dante: "My father was many things to the blood. Gene-sire, primarch, legend. But perhaps the more important thing that he was, was a brother to you, my lord. I sense your solitude and sorrow having awoken to a broken empire such as what we have now."
Dante looks up to Guilliman whose gaze still affixed to the sky. A sense of kinship fills Dante as he looks at the primarch despite them not sharing lineage.
Guilliman:"He was my brother, yes. As i have said he was the best of us. We had him then but now he is not with us. But his blood runs strong in your chapter, his sons and all your successor chapters share this strength as well. Let us look to ourselves on matters that concern the now but not forgetting his memory for though i may want him here with me, i have no power to pull him from death. We must move forward with what we have now."
Dante looks down at the helmet he held in his left hand. The one thing he had of his father that he could hold.
Dante:"yes, my lord. Our father, your brother may be long gone but his teachings and blood still indeed runs strong in us and we will endure. My deepest gratitude for the small kindness you have given me."
Guilliman averts his eyes from the sky to now look at dante. His right hand pointing to sanguinuis' helm.
Guilliman:"keep it safe, dante. For though you are the one who bears it in battle, it is my brother's face etched on it."
@@chuck2703 THAT WAS LORGAR GODS DAMN IT!
@@greyknight5813 Erebus: *laughs his heretical ass off*
@@lavatun Where can you read this? I want to get into the 40k world but don't know the order or number of books
I think Guiliman was trying to avoid talk about Sanguinius because he didn’t make it to terra in time
He even said it was his greatest failure not rushing to his brothers aid when he needed him.
He couldn't have known. He isn't going to Terra and not bring the whole wrath of the 500 worlds. Unlike Sanguinius who's following his vision.
Guilliman is right in building up the Empirium into something beautiful and worth defending. More of the galaxy should have been more like the 500 worlds of Ultramar.
he is probably the only living being(outside of chaos) who really know what the imperium should have been and what the great crusade was trying to accomplish.
but...but... That would be BORING.
No Name That’s right, that’s why we worship Khorne. 😎👹👺
@@axelNodvon2047 yes inquisitor, that one there.
Yes ultramar was what the imperium should have been, in that light he was right to preserve it as imperium secundus
Guilliman was probably thinking that Dante reminds him of Sanguinies a lot.
For sure. Bet it makes him sad inside to see a likeness of his favourite Brother, and yet know that he had died years before.
Ahhhhhh this comment really hit the feels, the idea of Poppa Smurf looking down at Dante and him looking back up at him not knowing why a demigod now looks both happy and sad all of a sudden.
Indeed, I thought the same thing too. Must be why Guilleman didn't mention Sanguinius name when he speaks to Dante.
Guilleman is just too lonely at the moment. He wanted to have someone that he can speak to openly. He needs his actual brothers. The chatty ones would be nice haha.
NM6467 I feel like Vulcan in particular is what the Imperium and Guillemen need right now
@@ImmaDBZvillan I think so too. Vulcan is the most 'humane' primarch unlike the rest. Other chatty ones should be Russ, haha
Somebody just give Dante angel wings and call him Sanguinius Jr already
You think he will be the vesell for Sanguinius's reincarnation?
@@anastasiosgkotzamanis5277 i thought that either
1- sanguinius' soul is trapped on the vengeful spirit
2- he got split into the sanguinor and mephiston
@@rayhankazianga6817 thing is his soul is not trapped in the vengeful spirit, since he was able to manifest to a dying Dante, telling him it isn't his time yet.
He is not on the level of a primarch he can never be on that level . He is one the greatest astartes to ever exist though which is impressive
@@commissaryarrick9670 Commissar I thought you died?? How do you still live and breath?
Guilliman telling Dante to raise his people from squalor and barbarity is a great moment. This is good characterization.
Cruel men make cruel warriors. I just realized, that was a shot at the Night Lords. Their original recruits were from the dungeons of Terra.
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He was actually referring to how most loyalist SMs are recruited in 41st millennium.
@@cgavin1 WTF? How did you even extrapolate that? That is not at all what Guiliman implied.
wozzlepop. You
Sir are hilarious.
Everyone is overlooking something very important here. Guilliman, who lived through Warmaster Horus's betrayal of the Emperor himself; arguably just decided to appoint what is essentially ANOTHER WARMASTER. We KNOW Gulliman understood the irony, dangers and given his character even the potential HYPOCRICY of doing this. Thats how worried and perhaps even frieghtened Guilliman is about the state of the Imperium. He is attempting to succeed where even his father failed...
Akios Eres Mah man, you need to read up the dark imperium novels, Bobby G, said multiple times when he woke up he regretted slimming down the legions to chapters he felt he made a mistake and then he starts the indomitable crusade and basically broke the rules with the primarius guys I think the are the “unamed sons” or something like that but yeah Bobby ultimately sees his flaws in wreaking the astartes and changes the rules my HOMIE lolol
Horus fell to Chaos simply because he was open-minded. The Blood Angels and its sucessors chapters are true believers of the Imperial cult, with Dante always setting an example. They'll be fine.
It's not lost on him, he knows the indommitus crusade was waged by a legion in all by name (Unnumbered Sons) and had to broke them off into the existing chapters and new ones for that reason
And when Mathieu, his apostle, goes against his orders and kick-starts a series of events that save him he gets furious with him because his actions caused imperial forces to fight each other, reminding him too much of the heresy
@@Halfort57 I think it is the Black Templars who are the only "true" Imperial Cult followers among the Space Marines. The Blood Angels, like most other Astartes, revere the Emperor but don't actually worship Him as a god.
And Horus didn't fall to Chaos because he was open-minded. He fell because he had always been very ambitious and arrogant, and the Dark Gods used that to manipulate him into turning against the Emperor.
But I agree that the Blood Angels should be fine. They inherited their Primarch's humility and nobility.
Strange thing is Dante won't disappoint his new position like horus did.
We need more artwork of space marines and primarchs in civilian clothes, not a lot, but some. They are weapons of war, but they are human.
this comment is hillarious.
I wouldn't mind seeing an Astartes in an elegant suit.
Fulgrim.....in sweatpants and Crocs. The horror....the horror....
+@@barlotardy mmmn, crocs. That's some sweet heresy right there.
Genuine Weeb You shut your mouth, crocs are comfort made manifest.
"Son of my brother" - So much more weight than nephew.
Sanguinies may be gone and Gullimen may know that, but Dante is still the son on of Sanguinies.
This makes Guilliman sound like a really really caring uncle hahahaha
Nice but its Sanguinius , not Sanguinie :D
Sanguine linguini!
Sang-winnebago
I nearly cried when Grandpa Smurf said that. It sounded like he actually cared, like that IS his nephew.
"My historians couldn't gather up your deeds, they are so numerious." Oh you! What a charming fella this Guilliman is. Charm lv 100. I'm blushing too.
Crazy that he gave such a big compliment being Guilliman the way he is xD
@@wessex8031 Ohh. Kind of didn't suprise me. And it's not that he is lying. Btw: 5:19
@@Kareszkoma He is not lying, but I mean Guilliman is not the compliments hugging bear like Vulkan
@@wessex8031 He is still human thou. And honestly, Dante, an Astarte, borderline has more numerous achievements than him. He is older than him too. Maybe not bigger achievements, but still very very many achievements. It would surprise everyone. I can understand the compliment.
Guilliman saying "We need to be better" gives me chills. He truly is a great primarch. The one the imperium truly needs in its darkest times. Not only is he intelligent but he is also kind and cares about every citizen of the imperium.
One of the reasons I think that he would ally with the tau, as they have ways to improve their tech exponentially and create better lives for many
Yep we need transgender Astartes, not just the Astartes who fight best
@@antonkukoba3378 what makes you think transgender astartes couldnt fight just as good?
@@antonkukoba3378 There's always an imbecile bringing up politics or social issues in something totally unrelated.
@@antonkukoba3378 technically, couldn't you call Astartes non sexed anyway? Except for the EC's of course who spend all their time fapping to serpent Hentai... and of course the Lion who likes clapping Alpha legion cheeks in that gay bar in the basement of the rock... (sorry... I think I'm overdosing on MajorKill again)
Your presentation is so different to other 40K channels, with your relaxed and friend-like demeanour. I see great things in your future, Rho. Great content good sir.
thank you! That's what I like about the channel. I'm just talking 40k with friends :)
@@wolflordrho hes right, nobody comes close to this channel!
The Sanguinius of 40k content creators
Wolf Lord Rho’s channel like stopping by the house of that neighbor who will excitedly share the cool bits from the book he’s reading while you play with his dogs. 🙂
The mask still represents Sanguinius. SOMEONE has to wear it, and nobody but Dante is worthy. Sanguinius himself said so.
Sanguinius would see Dante as a fellow gigachad, that's why.
@@SilentHotdog28 Everyone, and I mean everyone, no matter their rank or importance, knows that Dante has had that dog in him longer than any of them have been alive.
He’s the equivalent of the 65 year old knight everyone is shit scared of bc no matter how old he gets, he can and will throw down with anyone, including SPOLERS FOR THE ARKS OF OMEN:
Angron. Him and his sanguinary guard straight up jumped angron when he was summoned
Guilliman does make an amazing point about not resisting hell when one already lives in it.
I love the fact that Guilliman seems determined to make the Imperium actually more than just a mass of haughty nobles with planets of serfs to slave for them in a monster beaurocratic machine , like it seems so common sense to me that " if every minute of your life is shit and the devil offers you a cheeseburger , would you really turn him down?" logic of his is , and why it seems NO ONE in the ENTIRE IMPERIUM has ever considered the idea that making the worlds they live in NOT shit might actually close off roads to the eternal enemy , just boggles the mind.
Because Slaanesh exists too, and look at our world. Countries get rich, birth rates drop to shit, people start putting things in their arses. Imagine that on a galactic scale. I'll take my chances with working them so hard they don't have time to have emotions except despair and hope, and not too much of the latter. Having everyone destitute allows some radicalization which can be dealt with, giving people time to think about things is what needs to be avoided. Come on mate get your head out of your arse.
I'd sacrifice systems for Chaos just to get infinite Subway Sandwiches
@Ved Singh I mean if you want to get real with that conversation, youtube will just delete my comments, the stats are verboten. But regarding 40k, and the extrapolations I draw from that, the framework is "survival of humanity" and within that, the subjugation of humanity to that end is fine, and a good thing in my opinion.
Thats the main reason the Emperor launch the great crusade and the reunification .. So that all human in the galaxy would live like the golden age if possible.. Unlike the current emperium now that almost hell like it self.
@Ved Singh You wouldn't consider it poverty because you would be properly indoctrinated to consider it a voluntary sacrifice, or you would be executed for heresy. I dont know what you don't get here.
Plz be aware that im not super deep on 40k lore, i just watch it on and off.
Guilliman is something of an oddity in 40k. A demi god from the distant past awakening into a universe he barely recognizes.
Unlike others though, he's actually setting about to do something about it. And sense right now he is quite litterally THE final say on any matter, he's not afraid to do it.
He's keenly aware that he'll probubly ruffle somones feathers (no pun intended) as he goes. Appointing dante is practical but also helps solidify that he's not trying to throw out the old guard.
Improving the imperium from the ground up also seems to be another of his goals. A weak foundation speaks ill of the house built upon it. And the imperiums foundation has been shaky at best for a long time.
I doubt guilliman can solve all the problems or that he's fool enough to try. But he seeks to be doing what he can, where he can.
Yep, and one could argue that he os the exact Primarch the empirium needed first.
@@gilsonpassos1047 arguably the best superpower to have is the power of super-administration skills
Guilliman built a great empire in ultramar . He is a proven empire builder so he is mankind's best hope
THE KING OF THE NORTH!!!
THE KING OF THE NORTH!!!
THE KING OF THE NORTH!!!
THE KING OF THE NORTH!!!
You spelt "the" wrong 4x times lol
@@lewys9204 😂😂😂
@@jeffkais it got edited lol
@@Cavstic haha he did yes lmao
Why?
I just realized I listen to these stories for therapy. Brothers who honour each other and know their place and purpose in the great world. As it should be.
As it should be, brother
Gotta love Guilliman. A kind heart and the man to lead humanity forward. Even though hes a demi God hes more human than so many in the 40k universe.
The line about seeing a Dataslate in his hands more than Weapons is perhaps the most interesting line of the story.
It encapsulates what it means to command - and that for all his Fury on the Battlefield, the real battle is won and lost in Logistics, supply, organization etc.
I love the the Humanity and care Guilliman shows, especially in his Primarch book. Vulkan and Guilliman by far love humanity as a whole.
Galloleyman: "You remind me of Sanguinius."
Dante: "Oh, so you're going to show up too late and leave me to die, too?"
That was a spicy exterminatus of a burn there.
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@@shanegrimes3455 woosh
Oof
Not to Guilliman crown Angel Boy into a high, respected position of power.
Oh how history rhythms
Something to consider about the relationship between these two - Gulliman is a Primarch and the greater of the two in terms of power and authority, but Dante his actual elder. Gulliman dates from more than ten millennia ago, sure, but he spent the vast majority of that time in stasis. His active lifespan was nowhere near Dante's 1500+ years, and even though he knew and was taught by the Emperor and served in the Great Crusade and the Heresy, his experiences are a fraction of what Dante's been through. Superhuman demigod or not, Gulliman's obvious respect for Dante is perfectly understandable. To have lived so long, to have fought for the Empire for so long, and without the benefits of being a Primarch is beyond amazing. Gulliman fell in combat to one of his brothers and was left behind by time. Dante has lived through a millennia and a half and never truly met lasting defeat, not even at the hands of his own traitorous brethren. Which of them is truly the better servant of the Emperor in the end?
Gulliman did conquer 500 planets in less than a decade before being found by the Emperor.....i mean that a lone saved a lot of time during the Great Crusade. He lead the Great Scouring and reclaimed all that was lost from the Horus Hersey and created the Codex Astartes. Also fought back the 13th crusade and stabilized the Imperium and saved Terra from Khorne... Pretty efficient for servant whos been around for a few centuries.
Really interesting point. Do we know from the lore how old Guilleman is? Other factor here is that Robby G is a demigod; he’s experiencing existence at a pace far greater than Dante, so chronological age wouldn’t be be determinant between them? There’s a cool moment in ‘Know No Fear’ where we see this about Guilleman; he processes something like 1200 data bulletins in fifteen minutes whilst thinking of something else entirely.
@@andrewlauselfdefence possibly 200-300 years old as horus heresy.
Papa G is a conquerer, A leader, and Was part of Horus Heresy... The Horus Heresy alone gives Guilliman ten fold of experience then dante and rebuilt the imperium.
The age in which they both live are different. The times of Guilleman was of the age of crusades. The conquest age to reclaim back worlds with vast legions. The times where Primarch walks among men. The times of Sanguinius.
The times where Dante served was the time of bitterness and hopelessness. The age where men had fallen to such an extent where dying would be a better choice. He persevere through it all and that itself was a miraculous deed no one can and could challenge anytime soon.
Guilleman respects that and he probably even hoped that Dante could live longer until a successor comes. The Lion still slumbers.
Oh i agree with you that he should have asked guillman about sanguinius. That would be very very interesting.
Empire Empire
Interesting but bad story telling. The story’s over by this point. The narrative needs to snap shut, not drag on.
Considering the Blood Angels already know so much about their Primarch, they seem to have the most complete memories of their gene-father, they still have their home world, many, many relics, what new knowledge could they gain from such a conversation.
@@kelman727 I dont think so. There is no objective argument to support that. All that you wrote are just your subjective wishes. On the other hand, presence of information is always objectively better than lack of it.
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By definition there is no such thing as an objective opinion or argument. What an absurd point.
It is also ignorant of writerly craft and basic plotting, and seems to even take pride in it.
Guilliman only shows up at the very end of the novel after Dante has already broken the back of the Hive Fleet. The plot is resolved; no new situations or events must be introduced. Egregious info-dumping at this point merely highlights shoddy construction.
@@kelman727 there is no such thing as objective argument? 500 years of modern science begs to differ
just called Dante warden of the North
haha i legitimately thought it was going to be said
Why the warden if the north? What the mining of that )m? Can you explain to me ? Sorry for bad English.
@@Daubeny-pm8vk
I think, it is about Game of Thrones
@@Daubeny-pm8vk it's a nod to game off thrones.
Nice touch
Guilleman, humanities supreme existant being requesting to join Dante and his brothers.
''May I join you?''
The sincere humility of a being with such power and presence uses manners, a common trait of decency throughout all humanity. The author goes on to emphasise and reiterate this in the following paragraph.
I've always wondered how an astartes of another chapter would view a Primarch (not theirs), this sums it up brilliantly, with utmost respect and it seems that Guilliman really does see these Astartes as his Nephews, which was awesome. He really respects and cares for Dante, doesn't just see him as a pawn. I feel like Guilliman is one of the few perfect Primarchs, along with Vulkan and Sanguinius in terms of how they view humanity and care for others. I wish Vulkan and Sanguinius were still around to lead with Roboute, those 3 are the best Primarchs, along with Russ (becuase he's badarse).
I'm curious how Guilliman will react to the Old Wolf if and when they finally meet.
Guilliman sees the old wolf arrive on his wolf drawn sled. Logan Grimnar or I hear they call you the old wolf. No... as grimnar looks off into the distance. my fenrisian brethren have given me another, and ill bear it till my dying breath... they call me.... Viking Santa Clause
@@Trajiun more interested in seeing Bjorn the fell handed meet guilliman
Didn’t the fel-handed know and fight beside. Papa smurf? That conversation would be most interesting indeed...even it it was not, bjorn is of the 30k. He remembers what was... wouldn’t that be something to have him start a bew chapter of the Russ and put him at the head of those primaris to kickass and take names...I guess i can dream...
@@HammarPwnsYourFace I don't think Dreadnoughts can be Chapter Masters. Otherwise the Fel Handed would still be Chapter Master. I think he was the first chapter master when Russ left. It's crazy that the Fel-Handed may the only person left in the Imperium that was from Guilliman's time.
@@blackmark2899 there was a dreadnought as a chapter master of a blood angels successor chapter back in the Blood Angels Omnibus with Rafen, i can't remember who it was or what chapter offhand but i do vaugely remember that
Had Matt Ward written this the final line would have been.
"As Dante looked upon his new Spiritual Liege leave, he felt a overwhelming sense of sadness. Dante then knew why all the Grey Knights really had wanted to be Ultramarines."
Tim hahah haha good one
And I thought everyone wanted to be Grey Knight.
😂😂😂😂
You know, if we're only counting years awake, Dante is a lot older than papa smurf...
i think dante is arounf 10,000....its been a while sine i read my BA codex
@@TrenchCoatDingo Dante is about 1,200 years old at this point
@@Indoor_Carrot he's been chapter master for 1200 years (around the time of the 13th black crusade).
He's like 1600+ now.
Yeah but hes doesnt have the intelligence of a primarch
Castle Road Official 1500 years speaks for itself
blood angels are my favorite astartes chapter in the 40k universe, and having to be talked of them is always good ^^
Just had a fan moment! What happens if/when Guilliman meets Bjorn! Like have we met before??? Lol.
"Bjorn! You look great"!
"%&#@ off Guilliman"
So Dante served for 2000 years and gets half the imperium, Guilliman, like wtf do I get. I went fist for fist with Magnus more than once.
@@TherealSBlair That would be hilarious!
To be fair, Bjorn has always been taciturn in every one of his depictions. I think he would get along really well with Rogal Dorn, but I have a feeling Bjorn would find Guilliman a bit stuffy for his liking, and it's likely that Guilliman would be unimpressed with the SW chapter *STILL* not adhering to his codex.
But I mean, if Bjorn was able to knock back some barrels of mjod with the man, they could both get along famously, I think. As soon as they both removed those pesky sticks from their bums :P
@@brigandboy1425 why though Gulliman came back and Immediately threw out the codex. So why's he care? And if anyone can chat with him about the old days, like a brother. Which is well known he desires. It can ONLY be Bjorn. For now anyway
"He felt naked in guilliman's gaze",
Oh boy.
Going by the Dante's tertiary mission to better mankind, I can see him appointing Chapter Master Tu'shan of the Salamanders to be his right hand man: both highly respected by the Blood Angel's, despite his lack of seniority, with the ability best suited for building ties with the populace. A skill that every other Chapter could only hope to emulate.
Yes, that would be a great idea, especially since the Salamanders and the Blood Angels are best buds. These two Chapters are among those who care the most for common people of the Imperium, and them teaming up would totally make sense. It's too bad Nocturne and Baal are on different sides of the Great Rift, so this alliance is virtually impossible for now.
@@Saber2793 Not necessarily. Appointments can be lead by a delegation of those who embody Salamander ideals, giving us a cache of models and story options for GW, and still operate under Dante's influence.
Selecting 'Sally Chapter Master as the honorary head would still add prestige, and direct Guilliman's eyes to another capable master on his end. Something he can use to expand a similar remit on his end.
...Giving the Salamanders a Imperial remit, and not just a partial role.
Add a 2-3 named Salamanders, and flush-out the squad with assigned Blood Angel attendants for flavour/"look out sir" roles.
This fluff is already seen under Tycho's grave monument's honour guard.
Naturally, this squad detachment could replace Dark Imperium members with Ultra Smurfs, Primaris, etc to represent different factions or locations.
@@7hart2 If you're talking about a limited or token presence, as is the case with various monuments and Space Marine honour guards throughout the Imperium, then yes, it can be done. What I'm saying is that Chapter-wide cooperation between the two Chapters is improbable for now. The Blood Angels cannot abandon the Imperium Nihilus, and the Salamanders won't leave Nocturne defenceless, too many hostile forces active nearby. They could still send a sizeable force if Guilliman completely negates his limitations on Chapter size, though.
@@Saber2793 Strictly token/emissary units for fluff and fun in both games and story.
Cheers!
"Dante had seen tools of administration in guilliman's hands more often than weapons" there you have it! Lord commander is the technocrat primarch that's why papa E loves him so much I guess 🤔
I really love how much effort the writer put into showing genuine good leadership from Guilliman and being subtle with the issues he may bring. Even just reading about his words here makes it hard to disagree with him.
*Guilliman:* Commander Dante, you served the Imperium with a diligence few can match.
*Dante:* Thank you m'lord, but I am quite weary, perhaps retiring after all these centuries might do me go...
*Guilliman:* In recognition of your efforts, I appoint you to command part of the Imperium, escalating your stress and responsibilities a thousand fold.
*Dante's mind:* 😡 This blue cheese didn't listen to a word I said
The rage intensifies.
Never did I expect to hear Guilliman called 'Blue Cheese' in my life. Thank you for the laugh 😂😂
@@RhantheSlayer Well he got riddled with bullets by the alpha legion once so it's not wrong.
Only in death does duty end. No Astartes "retires"
Starting today and forever onwards I will refer to all of my nephews as "son of my brother"
I guess Dante could now force the Angels Vermillion to stop with their rituals and such since he now has the authority over them no?
Keep in mind they blackmail him
That might turn into a civil war tho.
He cant change stuff in one day he has to do it slowly
Love Guilliman dialogues, he is so much what the empire needs and what the emperor's dream represents, more even than the own Emperor.
This channel wins SO HARD
I agree that they missed a shot at Dante asking about Sanguinius. When Guilliman reinforced Rynn's World he spoke to Kantor about Dorn (albeit very briefly!).
Devastation of Baal was a brilliant read. Thank you for the video! Great work.
Thanks for putting the book in the description. I often forget after watching your video haha
Such a good commentary and reading. I am going to look to your other videos but I hope that you continued this kind of content. Thank you.
Hearing the why they talk about Guilliman reminds of Rob Zombie "More human than human"
Just wanted to say I'm loving your videos Wolflord! Keep it up
thank you!
Intressting hearing your worry back then about the dark angels now with the lion active again 😅
Guilliman stresses the point of Dante removing the mask more than once. You have to wonder if Dante bearing his brothers' likeness offends him in some way.
Especially considering the line "There is no need for you to bear the Angels' likeness when a real primarch walks among you."
Pains him probably. He is likely still grieving for his brothers lost.
Mega-Buster Shepard very real since Guilliman has really only been back into the fold since the heresy for such a short time. It literally must be like yesterday for Guilliman.
@@mega-bustershepard5537 I hadn't really considered that. Papa Smurf hasn't been back all that long so the heresy era is probably still fresh in his mind.
neilnightblade Gulliman was in the middle of the Scouring when he fell, then put in Stasis and woke up to M41. The Heresy for Gulliman was give or take to him less that 7 years.
Yea there might still be pain and sadness within him. And again like Dante said he is more like human so those emotion really logical. And there is also the point that Dante is trying to keep up with Sanguinius or be like him maybe.... How tiring that be.... To set yourself an expectation of a primarch..... For 2000 years? Just waw
Epic videos man, your narration really serves as an incentive to get deeper into the lore.
Wooo been waiting on this one! one of my Fav part of the book and now i get it read to me! Thanks for all the 40k content, it means a lot!.
Whenever Wolf Lord Rho makes a video, I almost cry. I would promote you to a reader of stories, and distribute all your readings across the Imperium. Damn. I would do that IRL. Let the children and workers listen to your voice, your stories. You are sure worth it. I'm damn sure you do.
This is one of my favorite channels. You really bring voice to these characters, and make the world of 40k feel... real. human. personable. I guess I have to start reading the books, now don't I?
I had to come back to this video after watching The Templin Institute's video on Lord Commander Dante. Such a great moment between two heroes of the Imperium.
The moment you realise that Dante has been fighting longer than Guilliman
WOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!
The writing here... so fuckin crisp and beautifully done. You know these men are basically gods and at the same time as human as any of us. The burdens, the grandure, the sense of duty and forces of will they show even at rest. Incredibly done.
"..I name you Jon Snow, Warden of the North."
"May your story arc have a more satisfying conclusion, and may your character development remain unfucked."
I’d like to read a meeting with Guilliman and the Space Wolves. Especially with Bjorn the Fell-Handed.
Removing the mask seems good to me. He is not Sanguinius, great as hawkboy was. In his own way, Dante is greater than any Primarch. He fought longer in realspace than any of them (as far as we know). He deserves to be recognized for himself, and his individuality. The mask distanced him from that for too long.
I can see your point, but by now the mask has become part of Dante, part of what he is. He’s recognised for his own deeds by friends and foes alike, and the mask is inseparable from his legend, just like the golden armour and the Axe Mortalis. So I doubt he’ll ever remove it for good, he’d just stop wearing it while talking to Guilliman.
I can't wait till see his interactions with the other first founding chapter masters...... wonder how the great wolf will take to him and his new Primaris Marines??
I want Guiilliman to meet tu shan
“Please let me die”
“I promote you to responsible for half the Galaxy”
I'd love to see Dante become elevated to a Primaris marine level, similar to Marneus Calgar.
It's easier to listen to you than Fear to Tread and Devastation of Baal. Really good reader.
Loved that book! Just picked up Vaults of Terra: The Hollow Mountain :)
There is some sort of issue are roughly 7:05-7:12-ish. I would get stuck there every time. Even coming to your Channel proper. I had to FF a bit to get the audio to start playing again. :(
Stops at The Genesis machines are working correctly, and then I had to skip to something about the Neophytes.
That's strange, sorry I don't know why that's happening I've checked the video and it rendered fine.
It could just be me, mate. No matter what I did, it just hung up there for about 5-7 seconds worth of audio.
I was able to listen to the whole thing was I just FF past that section.
Man, I will have to re-listen to this. I don't remember any of this. :(
Guilliman has steadily increased in my books, since his return. So much character development. Cruel lives create Angrons...:(
PS: son, as a term of endearment, not literal...:)
I'd love to see gilliman to meet the lementors, being one of the few chapters with a strong sense of empathy and getting screwed over again and again
Regarding your background music (which is awesone), let's hear more about the mechanicus!!! Forges of Mars and The Great Work are exceptional, it has given me new perspective into the faction. They run parallel to the Imperium but not the same. Very cool stuff.
the last conversaton was SO GOD DAMN TRUE, i was thinking of that for so a long time, like the space marines have been fighting with the same horros the dark gods offer them, why would you choose to fight with people who has suffered the most, which actually learned to fight through the same horrors they were ment to destroy....what kind of messege that gives to the space marines? like they are the ones meant to destroy what they have become?, save the people who teaches them through the horrors they face? which is the difference between that and the despicable gods?
instead, if they were to learn about the beauty, compassion, life, etc. They would never (as some chapters) even think to betray what they protect, as a man who fights for what he believes and love will fight till his last breath, till his last drop of blood, till the last gasp of his soul leaves the body, and even in death they would prevail.
I remember someone saying to guilliman, "Mind yourself, for he is not Sanguinius." when they spoke of dante
Wow me watching while I’m eating ramen haha so damn entertaining this channel is!!!
Guilliman is remembering his brother Saguinius and his love of art knowing that Dante a soldier might not realize who his gene father was.
it's simply terrifying how old the dante model is, it makes me feel so OOOOLD! I love this, I dont think anyone, even the Dark Angel's, Sanguinius was almost war master anyway
Dante is Frodo Baggins but a Badass. Well done.
Fantastic! Well done, sir. Or lady. Whatever you prefer but I assume Sir will suffice. Outstanding work.
Devastation of Baal is genuinely a great read. As a long-time Blood Angels player on the tabletop, Dante being named Lord Commander was a great moment of recognition for a guy who has given over a millenium to every corner of the Imperium.
I would also make the subtle distinction between emotion being a "weakness", which implies that being emotional is a flaw when it isn't, and it being a vulnerability. Something that is not inherently weak, but can be muddied and confused, which leads to uncertainty and insecurity. Emotion is a vulnerability precisely because it is such a point of strength. If you damage the strongest pillar of a structure, the entire structure may collapse.
To have Mephiston leave your presence by *politely asking* him to.
That, my friends, is command.
Also, I love how Guilliman basically goes "Yo, dude, can you chill down for a sec? We can't keep up counting your antics..."
Irony is actually having seen this and watched it once, but finding it again in my suggested feed and "misreading" it the second time. "wait... Guilliman disappointed Dante?"
Best story yet and why we all love Dante so much. I must admit even Girlyman is starting to impress me since his return. Writing is really good and this was so epic. Also can someone explain why they named an imperiam after nihilism? I mean I get it but it seems a bit too on the nose
i know this is just lore but:
you fell for that charm offensive?? its like the president holding a baby, its like the king supporting an old sick man,
all ive heard/ read whas that girlyman is sucking up to dante and makes use of both their feelings for sanguinius.
calling him his brother, stating that there is so much dante has done.
make him taking of his mask so he can be more intimidating and intense ,and all for having a loyalty forged to ''never let him down, i will not let you down, i know you won,t'' making it 3 times a promise.
make no mistakes girlyman needs allies that put up with his shit and most important his upcoming shitstorm.
he needs as many a world as many a system or segmentum on his side as he can.
the only difference between horus and girlyman is that when horus did his charm thing even his brothers believed it..
and only loken saw tru its charade..
but we will see, i hope the stories get more intricate and interesting..
Love to know where Yiu got the background gothic music. It's what makes your videos stand out! Going to post this on every video in the hopes I'll get a reply :p
did you get the music of this video?
@@gadrielvanorion9872 yeah I did thanks. If I have trouble falling asleep I throw this on and sends me. Off within 20mins lol
@@st1mp0 Can you share the name of the Soundtrack please....and suggest some more if possible. Brother Chaplain
I agree with you on the idea of talking about his Dantes father. Something simple as a response. Probably something that you would not expect as an answer. Instead of how great and powerful he was, just the talk of his personality and will.
This just makes me think that guillaman is one of the few people that I think would consider an alliance with the greater good once the greater evils had been expunged, they could synergize and help make the worlds a great place to live
Dante: can I please retire
Roboute: Best I can do is incharge of half the imperium
D : by the emperor
R : I know, it sucks, let it all out
Bruh I could just imagine some random Xeno Civilization looking into the Milky Way Galaxy in WH40k when the Galaxy split in half lmfao
Xeno 1: "Wtf is going over there"
Xeno 2: "No clue, but sounds like a them problem"
10k years later
*Tyrranids Arrive*
Dante: I’m so weary. I just want to die
Guilliman: best I can do is a promotion with even greater responsibility
Thanks for the great video just finished Dante and the devastation of baal both superb 😁
Dante's armor always reminds me of a Stormcast Eternal. Don't get me wrong, I love it. It's just similar.
*I miss you Sanguiny, rest in peace Hawk-Boy*
Another fantastic upload! Cheers
I wish he told Dante "Your father would be proud of you"
*"A society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its laws written by cowards and its wars fought by fools."*
Just started watching your videos and love them ive read most of the books but you have definitely picked up on stuff that i have missed
My favorite part wasn't just when Dante meets the Lord Regent, but when he's on his way to. Barely alive and sees his birth fathers face instead of the priests. But in all honesty the last few chapters has a few tear jerking moments. Im not a huge fan of the blood but damn that was a good read.
Huge flex from Kabandar, love the idea of erecting a monument to yourself after you help your mortal enemies in their absolute hour of darkness.
You should really do the part from "Scars" where the Khan faces off with the Alpha Legion in space, that passage was incredible.
I’m sure that can be arranged 😉
@@wolflordrho I'd love that, it's one of the best highlights of the entire book!
I dont think Dante needs to ask about Sanguinius. He probably knows more about his gene father than Guiliman.