Why spend an EXTRA $12,000? | CBR 1000RR vs CBR 1000RR-R SP
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 มิ.ย. 2024
- Today we are looking at how Honda's CBR 1000RR stacks up to it's bigger and WAY more expensive brother the CBR 1000RR-R SP! Does the extra $12,000 really make sense?
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Think I’ll just wait for the RRRR version
I think Imma get the cbr1000rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr model.
Nah get the cbr1000rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr fireblade sp version
LMBO
Y'all crazy. LMBO
@@dan3thegoat fire blade MAX
I’m going to say this again. As an owner of the RR, it’s not worth it. The bike is brilliant, more comfortable, has more power than you could feasibly use. I ride it to work, weekend rides and track days. It’s a phenomenal all round bike that’s very comfortable for a sports bike. Slap a titanium akra exhaust on it, flash the ECU (which you can do yourself) and you’ve got yourself nearly a 200hp bike (191BHP at the wheel) for 10k less. More comfortable, awesome looking. Unless you have the money and don’t give a shit and just want a trophy bike (and let’s be real, if that was you, you wouldn’t be here) then get the cheaper bike and live your best life my guy.
This
RR SP OWNER here perfect balanced bike with all the electronics for the geeks ligtweight and more than enough power when flashed!
Like 80% here can even use the 200+ hp the RRR got and believe me its heavier than the sp and sp2.
@@bslugz 100% with you on that
2021 CBR 1000RRA owner. I'm happy I didn't buy the SP model
I want to own a bike that gives value when my son sells it.
OC: I'm buying a 600 and performance riding classes, and trailer, and basically unlimited track days for that $30k. Rider mod > bike mod.
Good job. Chase did a video year1/2 ago claiming he would do comparisons and n 600cc motorcycles after he did a 650 shootout. He apparently don’t care about newer riders bcuz he doesn’t comment on my requests of when he’ll release the video
@@cdubbrider3740 If you are a new rider and are also looking at anything 600cc and up, you're doing something wrong anyway.
A 600cc Supersport is the second last thing you should be looking for as a beginner.
650cc is recommended if your "beginner" mind is mature enough.
Anything higher powered is just dumb (for a beginner), because if you looked at any of the R7 videos in this channel you'd know that even that is pleeeenty for even experienced riders.
@@Daniel-dj7fh ur not 100% accurate. As I still consider myself a newer rider bcuz I have so much more 2 learn as a rider. I be had my license 2-3 years and have owned ninja 650 4 a year now. I think a 600 is an adequate learner bike 4 anyone who has common sense a a rider. Not every rider is a throttle head (contrary 2 popular belief). A beginner rider can do the same thing as a 600cc does.
@@cdubbrider3740 Of course a 600cc can ride the same as a 125cc, but most of the people who want to ride bikes want to ride fast or be cool. And therefore a big bike is not a good idea.
You said you have had a 650 for a year now, but you also have had 2 year pre experience which doesn't mean you have learned everything. But you are not a fresh beginner anymore.
Anyone who is responsible and has the right mind can even start on a 1000cc if they want. But not many have either traits.
@@Daniel-dj7fh yup. My point is that a foolish rider can get hurt on a 125cc if it’s not a 600 tho. So it’s technically not gonna save everyone 4rm riding dumb.
I wish Honda would re-design the 600 rr and then make a ‘RRR’ SP version of that.
It would also be really cool if they did a 250 RRR SP that revved to like 20k rpm and made 55-60hp
Your wish has been granted, the new 600RR is going to be revealed in August!
Umm guess what
Oh boy do i have something to tell you😅
I too had this choice. I bought a new old stock 2019 CBR1000RR-SP. Got the more comfy ride position of the RR, and the fancy electronic ohlins suspension, and titanium bits that make the SP special.
And I got it all for 15 grand brand new.
Does the standard RR have Ohlins?
@Mike Hunt the standard RR has Showa suspension, look it up. I know the retail price was too cheap for full Ohlins
I know it's like apples and oranges but how does that compare to the Hayabusa I have a 2005 I want something smaller for the garage is it more comfortable or the same
I personally loved the styling of the RR SP fireblade with the gold wheels and silver frame/swingarm over the current RR-R SP. A gorgeous machine and more capable than I could ever hope to be.
The comparison should have been between:
RR SP vs RR-R SP
Coming from European rider, I have to note it's comparison of two completely different generations of the bike with a huge leap between them. In Europe and other non-US markets the double-R is discontinued and there is a "plain" non-SP triple-R available in stead of double-R, which would be more fair comparison. Double-R is still the good old road-oriented sportsbike, while triple-R is an all new race-bred sportsbike with the namesake being the only similarity, hardly comparable in my opinion.
That being said, I love all Fireblade content, old and new, so thanks for the vid :)
It’s because the SC77 does not meet the EU5 regulations and is not sold anymore. My wife has a 2017 with Akrapovic which is fantastic to ride and an awesome bike (we slapped braided brakelines in and some extras).
The new SC82 meets EU5 regulations
I recently went to a Honda dealership as I want to purchase the brand new CBR650R... I saw the RR and RR-R SP and damn, they're huge! The rear tire so sooo fat, I love the look of them, I can only imagine how crazy these machine are honestly!
The 650r has a wide rear tyre too
they have the exact same tire xD
The 650R has a 180 section, vs the 190’s on the 1000’s
The older model does come in an SP Version I have a 2017 I think that would have been a better comparison SP Vs SP
I agree. Or the standard vs the standard.
@@MikeB..69 Standard isn't available in the US (yet)
I am loving this preview so far
R R is the best bike ticks all the sections and RRR is too aggressive for street use, more track focused. Hence , my choice would be RR standard ❤️
OC: As much as I love the SP I think I would want to build a regular RR into the way I want WHICH I think can be as exciting at the end of it all. PLUS you never really see a fully built Honda CBR 1000 at bike meets which can also be a head turner. I know with my type of riding I’m on the bike every weekend and wouldn’t make it out to track days much. I’m a weekend rider and bike night/cruise kinda guy. To me turning a bike that is out-the-box “ok” into a head turner is equally satisfying as having a track ready, the Mark Marquez experience Honda RRR SP
I still have the 2017 SP 2 that i built (big budget), and the new RR-R SP.. 2 different feeling machines, love the SC77 chassis, looks and comfort. the new bike is for those times when it is about putting out your best performance..
Love this comparison setup 👌
Nice review. I have one and you’re spot on regarding some of the qualities of this marvelous machine!
I have the 2018 CBR1000RR and I have no complaints. The bike is comfortable for a super sport motorcycle and I used it to commute and have fun, the only modifications it has are power commander V, Akropovic full exhaust system, K&N filter, body sliders, and double bubble wind shield. The RRR is awesome but it is out of my price range and I would never be able to use its full potential.
Exactly I just bought a 2021 cbr rr who is gonna run 212 mph this guy looks like he might but only to grab some crispy creme gtfoh he's talking about a bike but admits he is a mediocre rider at best
@@russellcheng8992 How much did you pay? I'm looking at 21 RRs brand new and I think I might be able to negotiate a bit.
@@chorseundgrd I truly hope you get to the dealership wouldn't budge at all they knew what they had and the demand is way higher than the supply I paid around 19k out the door i wanted the matte black one or i wouldve spent the extra 300 on the 2022 I've put about one thousand in upgrades and about to drop another one on ECU flashed and dyno tuned honestly it's a great bike but I hate the fact they put so many restrictions on it
the Blacked out version of the RR looks great
Love your videos man.
You missed they biggest difference between them. The RR is the old model (first produced in 2017) which is still produced for the US. You don't get the new MY21 "base" model for some reason. It is labelled the CBR1000RR-R.
What you have essentially done is compare a first gen BMW S1000RR with an M1000RR.
Cbr1000rr sincr 2004
If the standard 1000rr had the RSP front fairing and headlights it'd be one of the best looking reasonably priced 1000's on the market in my opinion.
I like the way rr look, rrrsp way to techie for me
@@hilmiyahya3027 me too
OC: can you do a video on the S1000RR vs M1000RR. Love your vids. Watching from London 🇬🇧
OC: If I had the cash and a track nearby, I’d go with the SP model over trying to build up the regular model. That being said, I don’t have that kind of cash and I’m not much into CBRs but if I were…
2 different generations of blade, why didn't you test rr sp against the rr-r sp? That would of been a proper comparison, track day bike against track day bike.
Or didn't the u.s. get the sp of the older bike?
They are so different because they are two completely different bikes. The older generation is the SC77 and the new generation is the SC82. The new generation is a complete redesign of all components. The SC77 was offered in 2 SP models, SP-1 and SP-2. SP-1 like mine is the trackday variant and the SP-2 is a road homologated race bike. The new CBR1000RR-R is a different animal all together.
Cbr1000rr-r sp is the most beautiful looking bike Honda has ever made. Might have to pick one up used in few years. 😍
Love this Vlog
Outstanding content.
The CBR 1000 RR-R SP is the first bike i am really in love with. However we cant afford a 1.5 million pesos here in the Philippines.
Support bro..
Thanks for sharing.
The back tire size looks different ( bigger ) on the sp or is it just me?
OC: For my money I'm going with the RR, a trailer, 5 sets of tires and as many track days as I can get. The RR delivers the power in a far more approachable manner and it's output is closer to ideal IMO. In the years that I've been riding, it seems like anything too far over 150bhp makes me more concerned about how the electro nannies are going to react if I go into the next corner too hard for its liking or what the fuel cut will be like if I give it too many beans on corner exit. I'd rather ride hard on a machine that has its handling and traction engineered into it rather than programmed.
Well said!
This. I can push a 600cc to the max, 1000 is a different breed, needs a good track, and a fkin experienced rider. I'm not getting very much out of RSP, but I appreciate the tech and consider it to be the best 1000cc out there.
IMO the SP is really the answer to Italian's super bikes that are more powerful, may look more aggressive but less reliable. At the end of the day, I will only ride any of the big four from Japan and Honda is the no 1 for me.
@@georgiaguardian4696 Great minds think alike brother, I'm of the same attitude and a total Honda fanboy for the same reason. For me it's Honda and then Suzuki, but cause my old man likes Suzuki lol.
It’s messed up that the North American RSP (Fireblade) has 30hp locked up with electronic limiters. It has 186hp here in America but in Europe it’s has 215hp. Thankfully with a flash to the ECU you can unlock the full 215 hp. But when you pay $30,000 for a bike you should have access to the full power without having to flash it. On the bright side looking at the glass half full you can upgrade the air filter and exhaust then flash the bike and dyno tune it and basically unlock 45 to 50 more horsepower which is nuts. Because 186 hp is no joke that’s still a lot of power and to have an extra 50 hp waiting to be activated is just insane.
Fyi, MY2017 Honda CBR1000RR there's a SP version, but they split it into 2 SP versions. I think maybe you already know that, the SP1 and the SP2. The SP1, the front suspension is already use Ohlins semi active suspension and the front brake calipers are already use Brembo calipers. What about the SP2 ? Actually it's the same as the SP1 version, but in the SP2 the wheels are use from Marchesini forged wheels, which provides much lighter handling than the standard version and the SP1 version
need more videos like these!👍🏻
We are working on a consistent strategy for comparison videos. We know you guys love them but they are SOOOO much harder to make. Don't worry though, we will get there!
@@chaseontwowheels Hey since the Honda CBR1000RR R-SP is close the the price of the Kawasaki Ninja H2 I think that would be a cool and fair comparison to watch. If you can get a ride on one that is. I know 650 ib has let people ride his but his is modded to h2r basically
Perfekt Review!😊
OC: SP and track days for sure. I'm still waiting for my first bike to show up at my local dealers....it's an SP...a Yamaha MT-09 SP. I need to get a few years/4000+ miles under my belt before thinking of additional bikes.
Love you chase!!!!
Chase has put on some lbs. I was a subscriber back in 2014 and grabbed a sweatshirt I purchased a while back and looked up the channel and legit didn’t recognize him
In canada if you buy a new cbr1000 they only sell the rrr sp. We dont have the option to buy the standard version
OC: short answer to your question is RSP + trailer hands down.
but outside the choices you gave.. i'd get a 400 or 600, a trailer, money for riding schools/courses, and track days. :)
It sounds like vtec cam change. I love that in honda
A fair comparison would have been the cbr1000rr sp vs the cbr1000rrr sp. Would have been more fair. The previous sp has full ohlins semi active suspension and brembos also.
i agree. This comparison was a bit confusing so everyone is trying to figure out the model year of the stock bike. 2017 or 2019 ?
rode a cbr 250 for the first time and had a blast. cant wait to get behind a 1000cc
Haha I have a 1000 and it runs past 600’s you might want to reconsider that it’s your life after all 🤷♂️
My cb1000r has same motor. Just asking what is the difference besides price and programming for top end? Its still 3.3 to 60 and 120 in second gear. My r is naked. Still fast af. Top out hard at 168. Still dead and quick enough lol. It a 2022 with mono rear. Engine brake trac control abs and stable. At 13k. And looks sexy naked. Sounds sexy. And who needs go over 168?
Please tell us what other bikes that would compare to the CBR's.
In Australia we only have the RSP model for $55k. Could you upgrade the RR to RSP specs?
OC : chase... you gotta do a comparison between the R-SP and the M1000rr
When will Honda bring the "standard" RR-R SC82 in to the U S.??? Or is there no possiblety of that?? It's the same bike without the electronic suspension and it cost less than the SP.
The engines are not the same if the rr-r has a different bore and stroke with titanium rods and lighter pistons. That's a huge difference
OC: If I had to chose from either bike I'd take the normal cbr1000rr, I really liked the 2011 model.
If I had to take a Honda, I'd rather take the cbr650r because it makes more sense. But the R7 is kinda stomping over the cbr650r in my head atm.
I dig your down to earth perspective and review. I’d Never watched you before but good job!! I’ve always loved Honda’s but I’m having a very hard time with the $$ of the SP and you didn’t mention the SP 2 or it’s price. How much more is the extremely limited production RCV? Seems like if considering an SP or Sp 2 why not the RCV? Also SP1 - SP 2 comparison. It Doesn’t sound like there really is any comparing the CBR to the SP1 or 2. Sounds like those are in a different league, of course for that price difference they better be
RCV Is $125k if I remember correctly!
Has he ever tried the new MV Agusta Brutale 800 RR ive been trying to look for videos but cant find a single one on the new one
Such straight, unbent, arms with wrists taking the load when riding. I'm always reminding myself to relax, bend elbows, grip tank, and use my shoulders to steer. I guess I can do vids also without being able to ...
I can't finish vid.
Honda is back on top with the SP. Brentuning has unlocked it
I never understood why people need to tune their already 3x overpowered bikes
@@Daniel-dj7fh for improvement in mid range and throttle response especially when you’re running a full titanium system 🥴
@@VR46YAMAHA The engine stock is very likely tuned right for the exhaust system.
Yea, I mean you can have abit more midrange if you want, but at 200hp, why do you need more?
I could understand, if someone is tuning their bike to have a linear power delivery through the rev range to have a nice smooth pull, but that doesn't necessarily mean upping power. Which 90% of people who tune their bikes do.
@@Daniel-dj7fh why buy a bike and only get 70% of its power? And some ppl actually use ALL OF THE POWER.
@@2wheelsonly614 I'd love to see some of those "people" actually use all 100% of this bike on the track where it was designed to be.....
OC: honestly? I'm track prepping a 300-400 CC bike and having track days for a couple years.
In my country the RR got booted off in favor of the RSP. I always thought the RSP is the next gen CBR-1000RR.
What's confusing is that Honda in my country does not have a decent middleweight option (CBR-650R/CBR-600RR) and only has the anemic CBR-500R and next up in the lineup is the RSP
only three CBR models are available here with very huge gaps in performance; CBR 150R, CBR 500R, CBR 1000RR-R SP
Wanted to leave this I also had a problem with the price until I start thinking about ducati's and European bikes and how expensive they are
and we ride them on the street just the same so maybe the price isn't that bad on the SP after all when you compare it others in the same price range
The final edition, CBR1000 RAWRRR
would you take this bike over the v4r?
Titanium engine bits, the incredible electronics (they are better tuned on the sp), the absolute savage of a motor, and the looks. The SP is the way to go...if you have the money to. The standard cbr falls short if you can get a base s1krr for about the same money.
The CBR1000RR has been deemed as one of the more streetable 1000’s due to its light weight and ergonomics which aren’t as aggressive as most the other super sports. And let’s be honest, no one needs a 1000 on the street, nor will anyone like you and me ever come close to the capabilities of any liter bike. With BMW you also need to deal with maintenance costs. For someone stacking the miles on, the CBR1000RR is the objectively the best liter bike for the street…
@sleeper.simulant7327 very logical thinking, and I agree. But I've ridden that sp and it is incredible and feels special to ride, the cbr 1000rr is fine and that's about it. So it depends on the riding experience you want.
@12:06 V-tech just kicked in yo!
OC: im not taking anything away form the two monstrously awesome bikes you discussed here, but im just more of a lover of small bikes, so i would probably get a 2022 grom, a monkey and a Honda Acty to show them off on at car shows and to take them places to ride with frieds.. Dump a bunch of money on to all three vehicles in mods and i may still be under budget. thats my smiles per galon though, other viewer's milage may vary.
I don't have $30,000 to spend on a bike and I don't plan to go to a track so I decided to buy the RR. I got the 2018 CBR1000RR back in 2019 and got her paid off 4 months ago and I still love to ride my bike. I have put 15,400 miles on my bike and still get me exited :) The bike is comfortable and I have take her to Rolling Thunder and Gettysburg bike week. Finally, the RR has way more power than you could ever need and you can modify it.
The tripple R - sp is a monster. The best bike i ever bought.
i have driven Honda diferent models for 30 years and they have
always been criticised for beeing to soft and lack of power.
The tripple R - sp is the total oposite , its wild and crasy powerfull
full of smuth elektronics that is working so perfekt.
still people are complaining on Honda , its to uncomfertable , to
expensiv , no tourqe at low rev and so on.
Test ride this bike , you will love it or hate it. remember it is actualy
built for the race trac.
Call it a Fireblade for the RSP and RR for the regular
would you say blade is better than r1m?
OC: with that $30k i would buy the RR and make it my own. choose what i want and how i want it.
OC nice video
OC: definitely would grab the sp. I Have a cbr 600 right now and I'm looking into getting a 1000 soon. I just hate bills so I've been pushing it off
I went cbr to 1000 also. Check my channel. A 1000 is gonna change ur life.
When are we going to get a review on the 2022 Diavel 1260S?
Id love to get on one soon while we have a Rocket 3R Black in the shop.
You should make a video on the Honda rebel 500
What about the Honda Rebel 500 would you like to know?
RC30, RC45, RC51…maybe it should have been the next iteration in that series.
They have a 2023 Suzuki Hayabusa at the dealership five minutes from my house for $17k, that has like 200 miles on it. I would probably finance that if I had to have a super powerful sport bike. They don't even charge the exorbitant fees on that Busa, unlike pretty much everything else I've seen in that showroom.
I know that the new Honda Fireblade is more technologically advanced and probably faster despite having less engine displacement than the Hayabusa, but the Busa is so much less expensive.
I bought a 2014 sp I wanted to buy the new sp but I didn’t because this time it didn’t come with gold wheels that’s a must for me
You should do a video comparing the RSP to the Yamaha R1M
Agree apart from comfort
In VietNam we have sp1 and sp2 idk why they didt just have one to compare with rrr instead base version
The difference between the cbr 1000rr-r sp and cbr 1000rr-r fireblade sp has brembo brakes instead of nissin and ohlins instead of Showa.
Rrr fireblade sp my Dream
You've got to try Ducati Panigale V4S 2021!
Sp looks so much better
Wish they made the SP minus the wings and called it the RR
Like every other manufacturer does
Not totally different designs
I like the RR design better man idk
I'm kinda confused at why your base model over there in America Is different to our base model here in England. Our base looks identical to the SP, same bodywork with the wings built in, it still has the showa suspension and nissin brakes, compared to the ohlins and brembo parts of the SP. Our base has the titanium akropovic too. Over here, the bike hasn't sold very well, so you can get an SP registered in 2020, but brand new with zero miles, for the same price as a 2021 registered base model 👍🤠
My 650R feels like a childs toy with these bikes around
I think it could be a good idea for Honda to have a cbr1000r “single R” that is even more relaxed ergonomically. And maybe tuned for more torque. Kinda like a sport tourer? I’ve also seen some concepts for a version that would be like an adventure sport bike. Kinda like the s1000xr
They do have a CB1000R that is basically what you're talking about, just has a bit of a retro styling, they also made a sporty looking variant up to 2017 but that was replaced by the retro look. The adventure touring option is also a thing, in the form of the NT1100 but whilst that's looking like it'll be a very similar chassis to the XR or the Tracer 9, it'll have the 1100cc africa twin engine which is frankly garbage. Typical of honda to chose the most boring and underpowered engine in their entire lineup to put in an otherwise interesting motorcycle...
@@AntaresSQ01 yeah I’m aware of the cb. It’s a cool bike but I’m looking for something with fairings. I’ve seen rendering of the sport tourer with the twin and the 1000 I4. Hopefully they make the right call once it’s official 🤷♂️
I agree. They need a replacement for the cbr1000f they had years ago. They could dress up the cb1000r like what kawasaki did with their z1000 into the ninja 1000.
Here to put my BIG AGREE in here. I have a CBR650R I basically love because it's a "softer" way to get the 600CC screamer thrills (and still more than enough power) in a way more comfortable package (I have full hardbags all around!). I'd love that for an upgrade, a CBR1000R that's still full fairings & is basically just the regular sportsbike but with slightly more relaxed ergos, tuned suspension and ECU, and low exhaust. The low exhaust especially helps in order to mount full bags
@@BigDonkMongo Here I am a year later. Still wishing that was a thing. Closest thing we have to it right now is the ninja 1000 SX. And the new GSXS 1000 GT. Both really good options if that’s still what you’re looking for.
Why the r6 gives off more heat then the cbr600rr?
OC: If I were a serious track junkie, the smart thing to do would be to buy an already track prepped RR. That would get the most for my money. On another note, the SP is not the right tool for someone that only does a few track days per year. It's way overkill. And if you wanna track the shit out of an SP, you'd better be prepared to have a backup SP in your garage.
not a oc but i do watch your video all the way to the end
i love both bikes...but the Fireblade is Honda's S1000RR...i want one of each lol
I'm going double R now but they may change later.
I think the quad R version needs to come with an eye patch and a hook hand
That in the car world is what we call. When v tec kicks in yo baaaaahhhhhhh
in my country the 1000RR cost about $60k and the rr-r sp cost more than twice of the 1000RR (shoutout to my country crazy taxes regulations lol)
12:34 That's V-TECH baby 👀
The problem is that RR is not the current cbr. It’s what the US gets as the base model. It’s just the same as the 2017 RR. There is a base RR-R. We here in the US only get the SP version.
OC: Oh hell ya dude. I'm grabbing the SP and trailer every time! That's if I had To choose between The SP and the RR. Now If I had 30K to put into my other bike I'm going that route.
If you had a 17-20 SP, you might be surprised that you would ride it more than you think against the new RR-R SP.. trust me i know.
OC: How about 2 R7s and a trailer!! lol 1 for track and 1 for everyday!!
OC: in this scenario with those two options only, SP and a trailer.
Cycle World is now rumoring that an SP2 RR-R (R RRR R RR R R R R RR R R R) is now apparently in the works for 2022.
Guess you now have another review coming in the future :)
In Europe. The 2020/2021 cbr1000rr has the same bodywork as the SP, just the colours are different. The model present here as the CBR1000rr is the 2019 model year
no that stock model was released 2017. new decals 2019 what i can see from spec sheets.
@@mathiashammar1 yes that’s what I meant. It was discontinued in 2019 I believe
LMAO , great job. Especially when you consider that you couldn't really explain a lot of the mechanical nuances of the bikes !!
OC: would take the fireblade in a heartbeat over the standard CBR. I love the looks of it and the sound is just absolutely awesome.
They are both Fireblades
@@Daniel-dj7fh maybe in some places, but not here in America my dude
@@dylanmalfatti8537 the cbr1000rr is not a fireblade in the US?
Yo someone has to smack the crap out of the people who sit in the naming departments over there.. Yamaha fz, Scion instead of just Toyota, and now the fireblade isn't a fireblade because it's missing an 'r' and "sp"
@@Daniel-dj7fh dude, you're telling me lol. Luckily Scion is gone now, so it's just Toyota, but yeah if you look on the Honda Powersports website here, it's just the "CBR1000RR" and the "CBR1000RR-R Fireblade SP"
@@dylanmalfatti8537 lmao
So, as far as I know Honda's 1000cc supersport bikes are called "cbr1000rr fireblade", fireblade more of a nickname.
And currently on our German site, we have the cbr1000rr-r sp, like in the video. And a cbr1000rr-r, a non sp.
Two models back there was also a normal and an sp version of both bikes. And how I understood the whole thing is, that the rr-r replaces the rr.
There is also no basic cbr1000rr on the Honda website over here.