WorldSBK Comparison | Honda CBR1000RR-R v ZX-10R v R1M v Panigale V4S v S1000RR | Visordown.com
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- WorldSBK Comparison - Honda CBR1000RR-R Fireblade SP vs Kawasaki Ninja ZX-10R vs Yamaha R1 & R1M vs Ducati Panigale V4S vs BMW S1000 RR.
They win on Sunday so they can sell to you on Monday... but which of the Kawasaki ZX-10R, Honda CBR1000RR-R, Yamaha R1, BMW S1000 RR and Ducati Panigale V4 S should YOU buy?
#hondacbr1000rrr #yamahar1m #ducatipanigalev4s #bmws1000rr #kawasakizx10r
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probably only 1% of the rider can make a full potential of these bike
And all of them are in MotoGp or WSBK!
Absolutely. And that would be on a track. For street riding, a 600cc class is more than enough.
I can.
Austin Zappas pahahaha
GT Nismo liter bikes have power modes, and most 600s are hella uncomfortable. I’m 6”1 and my 650 is small and 6r is uncomfortable.
Honestly, I've always revered Honda as a brand, just because they're known for their good old fashioned "quality," for which there is no technique or design, just effort and meticulousness. But I've intuited that in recent years, they've held themselves to a conservative agenda with their bikes - always conservative with the horsepower, and always well-rounded with everything but never flashy in any one department. Honda was always that solid bike that was "ok" at everything and really reliable. Ducati, on the other hand, is that flashy, romantic motorcycle that's Italian, fast and unreliable. Finally, Honda unleashed a beast that you really can't beat - potentially the most capable machine speed-wise and also the best in the humble thing called reliability and quality. And Alex McAllister wants one. Did I get the narrative right? Lol
It is really difficult to beat the S-1000 RR. It is really an all around beast.
Rides well & forgiving. Awesome power & acceleration. 2nd least expensive at only 15K - 16K pounds.
I really don't get this repeated claim that ducati is unreliable. Since audi got involved in 2010 they are a very reliable bike now as they have fixed the electronic weaknesses. I've owned a few, and a couple of fireblades in recent years and they have all been fantastic reliable superbikes
Ducati is far from unreliable
That died many many years ago
@@josephandreuccetti7270 but they're still very high on maintenance and fuel
Great bike....but that red and blue design has to go. Blue and silver or Black and silver
CBR1000RR-R Bro!☝🔥💯
I'm waiting for the REAL comparison video. You know, when all the bikes are actually compared on the same day in the same place!!
Hopefully soon!
Agreed, these ISO comparos do not cut it 👍
@@davidebbs2797 we need to be able to ride as a group, which at the moment, is not permitted.
You right
@@visordown you can be with 20 people at the time
Wow. Verdict was both Japanese bikes voted by blokes. Kudos to Honda & Kawasaki🤘👍
I love Honda bikes to death, but, the Ducati V4 panigale, to me, will always be the most gorgeous looking bike to ever grace the earth
I think ducatis are gorgeous but after the 2024 cbr1000rrr winglet upgrade i think the honda finally looks better
They are all amazing. I'll take the Honda first though.
On an R1, all you hear on car parks is “You gotta front light out mate”
Same thing on my 600
Me too -> Z750
I got that a lot on my CBR600RR. Can't wait to be freed of that annoyance once my CBR1000-RR-R-RRRR-RR-R SP is delivered :)
I've never liked the look of BMW motorcycles. That said I admit I like the look on that new BMW. Damn she is pretty
ZX10RR always to be my dream big motorcycle 😁
I personally like the 2017 version. It may not have all of the goodies but the livery scheme is absolutely beautiful. Also, the 2012 Honda Fireblade anniversary edition is gorgeous.
Same
Broke much ?
@@lairenjam4650 Corny
Now Honda just needs to put that engine in the CB1000R tuned for more midrange torque.
Nah, all the Honda needs is some more 'R's.
Difference is?
@@Fee.1 CB1000r is the naked street machine, lower rpms = more fun on the street
The CB1000R naked is built around its power and is not a super naked. Honda would have to build a naked fireblade and I don't think they will any time soon,shame.
I don't know about that. I had the privilege to test ride the bike at Nürburgring and there is no power to speak of under 8k rpm lke legit non. Honda really stretched the power only for the top end. Even after some tuning i don't think this engine will be a good platform for a naked bike.
People say "only 1% of riders can make full use of the bike" yeah so what? 90% of people cant make full use of their cars. Doesnt stop people from buying them and there is nothing wrong with it. They are beautiful and if you can afford one and are responsible enough to not kill yourself then get one. So what if you cant use it to it's full potential, as long as you have fun that's all that matters
Honda cbr 1000 rr r fairblade is the best bike
Lol. Shows MotoGP and wsbk flops.
Nah
The CBR1000RR-R just shows that the old adage Jack Of All Trades, Master To None applies till this day. If Honda tried to get some midrange power, it would lose all the craziness up top, making it the same like the other bikes.
zx-10rr,, SBK champion pedigree, through and through
The content of this channel is on point. Though I'm far from affording any one of these bikes, I'm glad to know all the info. Great content, keep up the good work.
Glad you like them!
You can always try to get a bank loan like for a car. Personally, I'd rather try for a personal loan. Its a bit harder to get but they wobt take your bike if you miss a payment. 😷🏍💨👍
Yamaha R1M 😘
Its crazy that we live in a time where all these bikes are amazing and are more capable than 99.9% of the riders. Just buy whatever looks best to your eyes and feels comfortable and natural to ride.
I couldn’t agree more. I think the BMW is the best bike that I’ve ridden on a track but I own a Panigale. It’s my dream bike and I’ll never be able to maximize either motorcycle...so who really cares?
RR-R to wipe clean this time.
They said that about the SP1 & SP2.
Losers.
Love my 2008 zx10r. Although I think all these bikes are great 👍. And unless you are actually racing, any one of them will make the owner proud. Which is the best? Whichever one you own. I also have an 07 zx10r. I'll keep them both forever.
I'll take the Honda anyday, my 900rr is a great bike to this day
I love my sc 33 1998, I have 2 of them one sc57 1000rr 2004 and last year I have buy VFR 750 rc36/ll 1997
Honda power of the dream
I stay with the Kawasaki for the price performance, the cbr has good performance but for that price I prefer the Ducati for that price
V4s =157.5 kw =211.2hp =214ps
CBR1000rr-r =160kw=214.5hp=217.5ps
S1000rr=152kw=203.8hp =207ps
Zx10r=149kw= 199.8hp =203ps
R1m=147kw=197hp=200ps
Get a cheaper older model and hopefully avoid the finance! Or be rich and buy without the finance. Either way, avoid the finance.
Honda is love❤️❤️in two wheelers and four wheelers too✌️
Great round-up Toad & thanks for all the good content of late👍
I don't think I'll ever be able to afford a new superbike (or even a used one at this rate) but it's always good to keep your fantasies up-to-date 🤷🏻♂️
I don't even know if I could afford the insurance.
A Honda that is more expensive than a BMW and costs the same as a Ducati. 2020 will indeed go down in history as the craziest year ever.
Thank Marc Marquez
It’s basically a MotoGP engine development bike based on the rc213v. You are paying a lot for the development.
@@theonlyredspecial except its nothing like a motogp engine, infact the 1 critical thing they could do to make it like the rc213v ( making it a v4) they didnt.
@@agentofenhanced2428 ok, ill be more specific. the internal dimensions in regards to the stroke and bore are based on Hondas own rc213V. The internal dimensions are shared with the RC213V MotoGP bike, using the MotoGP-limit 81mm bore and 48.5mm stroke (previously 76mm and 55.1mm respectively) There was a debate about the V4 option inside Honda, based on a contact in BSB I have and they felt moving to a V4 engine for the fireblade would destroy its inline 4 heritage. I think the 2019 was a better road bike, but the 2020 Blade, based on results so far from the Irwin brothers in BSB is proving that the changes to the older bike have worked as a track bike. Pretty sure this is why honda are selling the RR alongside the RR-R model. I actually traded in my 2020 blade RR-R a few days ago after 500 miles. it was killing my arms, but the engine is a lot of fun. Not something you could find out on a demo either sadly. Lost a few grand on that so more fool me. I actually just got a ping last week about a recall on the RR-R so will be interesting to hear how many are affected. recall is for sump bolts loose in the bottom of the engine. Have to replace the gasket and all the bolts too.
The aprilia, Fireblades and the s1000rr don't win on sunday but sell really well on Monday.
The funny thing is the last couple of years these bikes have been tested against one another the Aprilia and BMW turned the fastest laps. Honda was even turning faster laps than most bikes on many tracks despite being down some on power. Now with all that HP plus still having that 600cc handling it will be very hard to beat. The GSXR was also turning some of the fastest laps just behind Aprilia and BMW and even beating the R1. While Ducati and Kawasaki was at the bottom much of the time. Its a shame that Aprilia decided to back off racing after dominating for so many years. And BMW is the king at the Island of Man TT. Something else to mention only the new Fireblade RR-R SP and the R1M have the Ohlins top end electronic suspension with pressurized forks. The other bikes do not.
Not at all, Honda doesn't sell for shit anymore. And it's really sad because my 17' SP2 after being full tuned is easily the best bike I've ever had. Tbh of all 4 liter bikes from Japan I can see them being the best easily, but that price is too much.
@@ChaseN194 last year i somewhere read some sales figures. CBR did really well. I'm trying to find the link.
@@ninadganore idk about the market you are in. I know asia had TONS of sales, but here in the states the SC77 did not sell. Many dealers got them in limited supply, the ones that were for sale remained new old stock for 3+ years. Thats how I got my SP2, new old stock sale for WAY under msrp.
most of the honda dealerships in my area are focused on dirtbikes, beginner 650's and nakeds, the 600 and the 1000 have pretty much been made an order only bike.
Only one and the one R1 for ever! ♥
Buying a black 2020R1 this year👏
Id like to see the bhp gain on the new r1 when you tune it with a pipe and ecu flash. I heard around 10 or 12. If you need more than 210 bhp, then I guess an h2r is needed
Yes yamaha
@@jerryp1392 That's what I heard👈👍
Your r1 sucks.
Honda still needs to sell the 1000rr but with the new six axis imu & better traction control.
Pretty awesome comparison 👌👍
But Honda covered every expectation from
Durability, reliability, resilience 😎😎😍To prove that
I'm still using my 2005 and 2007 model on the track,
Good work Honda 👍👍👍😎😎😎
Looking forward to see you achieve in WSBK racing ,
Cheers
Thanks for sharing
R1 sounds the best in my opinion.
R1m good and strong🥰🥰
CBR1000RR R is the king
The comparison was superb, would've loved to see the gsxr1000 along with these beauties.
GSX-R1000 is slightly less powerful but it's okay at everything. It's also a lot cheaper than the group in the video
@@mertcalc3259but still it has superb low end, mid range and top end🔥
@@wolverine1854 i know
The GSXR was left in the dark AGAIN
😂😂😂
No one cares about Suzuki, bro
@@kierenmoore3236 well,we care about hayabusa 😂
Suzuki is not in WSBK
Cause that’s where it fucking belongs
I hope we'll have a dyno comparison in the near future, with all bikes measured on the same dyno!
Really enjoyed this video just what we’ve been craving in lockdown 👍🏻
Thank you! More to come
bmws1000 rr and fireblade my dream's!! argentina!
I hate people that say most people will never take this bike to it's full potential, or, its wasted on the street.
Most people don't take a civic or a pedal bike to it's full potential on the street either. How many people do you see doing 720 spins off a ramp or screeching the tires on a civic going around corners? If people wanted to get something that "just drove from point a to b" they would get a prius or a scooter. The point of getting performance vehicles is because of the fun, excitement and exhilaration they give you.
I agree with your statement about the brakes on the R1, I’m not satisfied with them after trying my friends S1000R
In New Zealand and Australia Suzuki is the second biggest selling 1000cc super bike behind BMW. Seems fitting to me to keep them in these kinds of comparisons.
Put an arrow exhaust and a tune on that Ducati and the rest is history
Don Cappo it will be in the shop every 2nd day broke down lol
My bike runs like a thoroughbred .. Ducati has stepped up
Just because you can’t afford one , don’t hate
@@steviedee71 Ducati got it right in 2008+ with the 1098 L-Twin engine. The cam belts went to chain, and the valve adjustment intervals were a lot longer too. Even the warranty was better due to these changes. It's not like owning a 916/996/998 or 748 anymore. Those were beautiful bikes to look at and race, but for owning one for daily, street riding.....its definitely not a Honda Fireblade or VFR of that same era, actually the total opposite. Ducati only got better after this; since the acquisition from Audi, via The VAG it can only get better quality wise. Great time to be a Duck fan for sure.
I'll pick CBR here bcoz of high top end. It there was a V4R here I would definitely pick that as it's my #1 dream bike. And you forget 1 underrated beast called Suzuki GSXR-1000R
Yamaha has is and always will be the best
Everything depends on money zx10r giving both power and money, it's just if you want unique take others all are good in their own spheres but everything boils down to MONEY and zx10r has most dominant history too
You get that for some reason he’s giving you altered info right? He’s giving the performance numbers of the ZX10RR but the price of the ZX10R base. Huge price difference. There must be biased or sponsorship money here.
This was an amazing video, covered just about everything except in my opinion the most important- reliability. In order which one has least problems, which has the most?
Excellent review with no bias which is rare. I personally see no reason to own one of these unless you are on the track. To me they are utterly useless on the road due to their nature. That is why I bought an MT10! If I had to choose, I am a Yamaha fan all the way so R1.....all are great though.
I want them all.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Ducati is an 1100cc, and can't be used in WSB unless in V4R form?
Waiting for the Honda CBR 600 RR and RR-R. It is about that time. First things first I hope they change the headlight. I had to skip 2013-2020 model just because of the headlight. Please launch it before I get a MV Agusta F3 after lockdown.
A few S1000rr repeat customers have noted issues with the new generation. I hoped this video would have mentioned them.
R1 out team
Great content. I can't believe how expensive these bikes are in the uk compared to the us!
Honda CBR 1000RR me big dream
If you want to be happy far away from garage nightmare etc...
Just take the MADE IN JAPAN and sleep well...👉guaranteed 👈
amen
Aprilia rsv4 is the best bike 🏍 man #apriliarsv4
Who are you trying to fool? That’s not a 2020 V4S! That’s a 2019. The 2020 V4 and V4S have wings, along with the V4R frame, revised suspension, EVO 2 traction control, rear cylinder disabling, etc...
CBR1000rr-r is the king and Beaultiful,ever💪💪🔥
@Meliodas Zeldris no no, It's wrong, CBR now be in third, 217 horses🤫😎
OMG. Finally ....Did they finally listen. Honda H.O. Tokyo I thought couldn’t hear, read or acknowledge what was going on. Felt they will drag the old model until the cows come calling. When Honda puts it’s mind to something they can get it 100% right💫. What a beauty. Best designed bike ever. Power, balance, fit & finish absolutely unmatched. Thank god they didn’t shrink it further. Buy it even if you don’t ride it. Showcase it in your room just to getup in the morning and have a look at this gorgeous piece of art. Honda designers and engineering did a phenomenal job. 👏. This entire team needs a raise. The king is back 👊. CBR1000rr-rsp.
Good review. Keep it up.
Everything looks good except the exhaust
5:33 i love crossplane😍
This is honda 4 in line
Great review and comparison video!
Thanks!
Just buy a zx 14r. It has it all and does it all. The only compromise is the extra weight
Utter nonsense.
@@RRSmurf have you ever ridden one? I have owned every litrebike and crotch rocket made in the last 20 years. The zx 14 r. Acceleration and torque unmatched
The Honda has changed the most due to before this new bike came out it was the same old bike for the past 5 bloody years!
But is it really worth 10kusd more than the 2019 SP that can be had new as a leftover? Or a like new 2017 Zx10RR for $15-16k USD?
@@MattieXMoto Questioning the cost first is exactly the reason why it isn't worth for you.
My point is, if you're worried about cost, then go for the Kawasaki, it's the cheapest.
But if you want a bike that beats the other bikes completely stock wise? Then go for the Honda.
If you're a rider who wants the best performing bike out there, you don't ask "but how much does it cost?", you just ask "what's the best out there".
Honda's track record shows that it just doesn't throw around price points like that "other" brand, and it always gives you the best bang out of your buck for the money you put into it. And not surprisingly, it didn't change this year.
New Fireblade has no opposition this time, period.
Oh, he said, "period". That means it's true.
I have a 2012 CBR 1000RR. I’d love to get my hands on a 2020 RR-R!
Get a 2024 theyre better and revised the sitting position
My 06 Fireblade is getting a bit old now. The S1000RR looks very good on paper, in person and in the budget category
so the conclusion is that they are all awesome. You should choose which ever you think is prettier
I used to sell bikes and people would come in and ask me the detailed specs of every bike on the showroom floor. After a few minutes, I'd say, "They're all within a few pounds, a few horsepower and a few dollars. Buy the one you think looks coolest and you're comfortable on."
Basically. The cost of general maintenance is an important factor for me.
@@Godric_71 then stay away from any european bike
@@Godric_71 go for Japanese manufacture
Easily the ducati. It’s actually the best selling superbike on the planet right now
Man this video was great. Congrats
Excellent channel.
Thanks for watching
If I wanted to feel a little bit of the aura of the greatest rider ever...Marc Marquez 93, I would choose definitely the Honda!!! Second in my list is the Kawasaki, it's a bike that wins in superbikes championship, so it has that winner feeling...
He wasn't so good Saturday....ouch
Gsxr1000r and keep the change ♥️
The only reason it didn't top the heap in 2017 was for fading breaks...They now have thicker discs and braided brake lines. Suzuki didn't make a huge deal of it all just fixed it.
@@moorepower13 My nearest dealer is Doing them for around 13k, that is a incredible motorcycle for the price compared to the competition.
@@-DC-right? This bike and alot of tires and track time could be bought before ya get to the price of the others. All these machines are really great, just don't let price keep you away from the class, Suzuki has ya covered.
Ideal road sports bike! Comfortable with masses of midrange and a bargain!👍
There is a reason they're priced so much lower than the competition... So all the teenagers can buy them. Jack out the swing arm, put some underglow on it, then wreck the bike and their credit in the process.
Ducati is NOT a liter bike! Nice video thought.
R1 M
Amazing content keep up with the good work, can’t wait to get a lider bike!!✊🤛
Appreciate it!!
I wish more manufacturers would focus on decent STREET bikes. Not so viciously track focused. Bikes like the hayabusa and zx14r are years outdated. And still more at home day to day than these track focused machines.
Zx14 and busa were drag focused bikes all meant to hit the highest MPH..
They were both faster than a blackbird, but I’m positive the blackbird was more comfortable to most than a zx14/Busa....
Regardless, they do focus on street bikes. They are just either:
A.) Out of your price range
B.) Too much street and not sporty enough for you.
Finally somebody mentions about the kawasaki and all its aftermarket parts that are available to make it something that it's not.
After all the kawasaki does hold the track record that one track with the SBK bike that beat all the MOTO GP BIKES!
All the bikes are pretty good here but who dose not flash the ECU and put a pipe on there bike.
The yamaha makes 240 horse power with the head work and bolt on parts.
The Honda 230hp that's the old one.
The BMW 220 with good parts the old one here too.
The Aprilla 208 with flash and pipe the old models from 2016 up.
The Duck 226hp with pipe and flash .
Kawasaki ?
The new machine should be quite something and act differently with these modifications.
Honda generally has a lot of cam choices which could enhance its low end performance and midrange this will make a good street bike.
Yamaha still the king of quickness.
But it's not winning races like it used to.
And it's never won a road race that I know of.
The suzuki has been quite a bike for quite a long time and the new one supposed to be bang on.
Yamaha just won both motoamerica super bike races this weekend
Why weren't you using the 2020 Panigale V4S? The improvements have made it much more manageable compared to the 2019.
Id buy the Gsxr 1000R
@@jdmikeg4 me lol no! What does that have to do with liking quality? Its a user friendly bike. And for the price with all the upgrades hard to beat.
i bought the 2020 gsxr 1000, no regrets. i have a 89' gsxr 1200 too and reliablity is what sold me.
You review the R1 & the R1M, but only the ZX10R and NOT the ZX10RR which is the real beast!
That honda new look too dopeeeeeeeeeee.. welcome back Myy kingggg
I own that BMW, and it’s pretty nice motorcycle. 908 miles in it so far. Great video. I would like to own a Ducati but the service and parts are too expensive. One thing that caught me off guard was the fuel mileage. I am only getting 33 mpg on street with normal riding. I thought it would be close to 45-50 mpg
LOL if you wanted great gas MPG you should have bought an R3. 1000's are built for speed not consumption. 33 MPG seems decent considering I average 28 riding like an ass.
Aurora Jones I think the exception to that rule might be the 17 cbr, as far as i have heard it has exceptional gas mileage
Well, I used to own an S1000RR and own a Panigale V4 now. It has good service intervals and the only expensive thing on it, is valve clearance adjustment. Which only needs to be done every 24.000 kilometers... shouldn’t be a reason not to buy one, if you can run an S1000RR, you can run a Panigale V4 as well.
Marcus W. Thank you! How do you compare the two? I use my bile in rain mode for office and in city commute, is the v4s easy to ride in city / low speed commute? Thanks
I've always got around 6l/100km (40 mpg) on sport bikes on the street with normal riding, not track riding. (CBR1000RR 04/06/08/12, GSX-R750 12/16, GSX-R1000 2014 and all 600's CBR, GSXR, R6 etc...). The worst one was the R1 2012 (crossplane) which was getting around 33 mpg. Ps. all my bikes were stock. Lets not forget that most of the new Super Bikes have 200 hp and+ which would explain the lower mpg..
I won a old 954 still looking for that great deal on a zx10 🤷🏾♂️ it is what it is......
I remember when superbikes were $10k
Zx10r amazing color
My dream bike zx10r 😘
Mine too
Bah love em all - can afford none of em! Love the hair splitting review tho!
Great videography chaps!
Thank you 😊
The new blade is going to be a rocket for the track. Waiting to see what the road tests are like
That r1m is soooo sexy
R1M like..very nice
2020 hypernakeds real street/track comparo hopefully coming soooon!
Nice video. I hope I can own a black zx10rr someday.
Wouldn't ducati's superleggera v4 would be the most likely bike to be in sbk from ducati?
Whatever bike Johnny Rea is riding. The Kawasaki
scott redding has entered the chat..
Wow.. great comparison and review. Thanks. These motorcycles are so much more affordable in your part of the world than mine😣
Thanks for watching!
i feel like the ninja h2 needs to be in this conversation, i feel, in spite of the fact that it isnt strictly a race replica. it fits in the price range set by the other bikes and has comparable performance figures.
Great review.
How many 'R's can the CBR have? It sounds like a pirate's party already. CB arr thousand arrr arrr arrr !
@LastRaven Ok, I lol'ed :'D
@LastRaven that was good
Give you $20 if you can tell me what CBR actually stands for.
@@pacificbaitchunk4126 you really wanna lose $20 over something you can just google?
@@gwot k smart guy tell me.
Cause google wont .
And no its not city bike racing
I’ll take an SP, an R1M, a Duc V2 and a Ninja, thanks. 👍🏼
Me : ok bud, lets roll it up!
My cb100 : damn.
When will we see this years 2020 Superbike Shootout? Can´t wait to see the NEW Panigale V4S in comparison against the Fireblade, S1000 RR and R1M!