The Adventure Time Finale was pretty bad...
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- I'm aware that this is going to be a HUGELY unpopular opinion, but in all honesty I thought the Adventure Time finale episode Come Along With Me was a disappointment. Considering how great the series has shown it can be, and given the world its built over the 8 years its been on air, is this really the best they could offer as a fitting closure to what was once my favourite cartoon series?
By the way, if you liked the episode and enjoyed it that's completely fine. This is after all just MY OPINION and I'm glad you got a great viewing experience from it. I only wish I could have done too.
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Biggest problem: Finn is no longer the central character. If you don’t work to give him a satisfying arc, you’ve cheated the fans who’ve stuck with his story for years.
Also, why do half the characters end up at boring desk jobs?
Ya, I think it because the show runner change at session 5 and the replacement like other character more then Finn. They forget that Finn is the Catalyst Comet. The reincarnating agent of change for good. That he has all the memory of all his past lives but block it out because as a baby he could not handle it. Finn even put off enlightenment to stay with those he love.
What annoy me was they also de-canonize the canon comics that was work on by the original people that did the show. There was a issue that take place in the future that shown that Finn and Bubblegum kissing and did in fact had feeling for Finn. Keeping in canon the comic that support Marcelin and bubblegum.
The show basically listen too much Tumblr shipping people and listen to them. This not the first show were i see canon, story, and character development ignored all for the sake of shipping. I remember a show were the cool badboy lady man was tough by the guy (who love the girl) he like that he didn't need to pretend to be the cool bad boy that he need to be himself then the next time he showed up he did talk to the girl he like but is back to his old self flirting with some one else. His character development was ignored because Tumblr did like the pairing.
@@Underworlddream Are you talking about Neptune from RWBY? Because that's the exact issue I had with his character after Vol 2. After all the buildup to get with Weiss after learning to stop being a flirt because he likes Weiss he just randomly goes back to flirting and they never get together.
And yeah I agree that they really forced Bubbline. Finn and Bubblegum were set up early on to eventually get together, and Too Young confirmed that she did like him but then they ignored it. They definitely pandered to the Bubbline shippers and that was one of the reasons I dropped the show in season 5.
@@coolman229 you have to remember though, bubblegum would outlive Finn, the reason they hit it off when she was younger was because the age gap was removed. Bubblegum is hundreds of years old and has know marcy much longer then Finn.
They did the desk job thing because life goes on and fun's fun but they have to get a job
pescando remember when fin risked his life for P.B but she still didn't accept him...
The worst part is the show had the potential to be so fucking incredible. The early days had this raw surreal passion to them. I blame the fact that a lot of writers left.
@@londonjackson8986 Girl where? The biggest problem is they don't even address drama anymore. Really uncomfortable exchanges happen between characters that never get brought up again or get closure, and that's in between mountains of filler episodes.
the show wasn't really the same after the creator left, it's true.
and yeah I agree with Lamb, they really should've scrapped FIller eps in favour of the story arcs
@@sarafontanini7051 I dont think Pendelton Ward actually left the show, just renounced complete ownership of the franchise, so he could focus more on being a writer for his show rather than just managing the business
I agree, I loved adventure time, but my viewership dwindled in late season 5, and during season 6 is when I stopped watching. Too many side character episodes made me lose interest.
Moat people agree that the show is incredible. Your expectations are too high for a children's cartoon.
A villain that suddenly show up for the final fight without any proper build-up or early introduction is a badly written villain!
The show got canceled I dont blame them for the rushed episode it was a good ending it hit the feels
Noah Bradshaw the ending sucked . i absolutely hated it. it only hit me in the feels because of the time Adventure song but it sucked as a whole. finn and jake got no focus and the show forgot what it was supposed to be about.
@@Godoftheinternet. it got canceled they literally didn't have the time to do what they wanted so ofcourse it sucked but it was still worth while to watch
@@Godoftheinternet. no they had to end it that's why it was poorly made
Bro golb only has been in 2 episodes so that is kind of b*** s**t. No wonder nobody knew what was going on, Finn saw for like a split second in the pillow world and then forgot instantly and magic Man didn't explain anything except for the fact that Ice king had to fix it instead of the actual main character
It's fine to give side characters some development.
What's not fine is completely disregarding your *MAIN CHARACTER.*
They make him depressed and single
it started off with him being the main character, yet it didn’t seem to end that way.
@@link9790 so
DIO!!!
Yah true
The Lich shoulda been the final villain confrontation. Golb just came out of nowhere.
Haha makes me think of the ending of FF9
The lich became good remember he got adopted by tree trunks
@Devin Chen yeah, but not as a villain. There was that one arc a few seasons ago about that "world destroying" comet. That was built it way more than the Golb. Then when the comet came, it was like finn's mom or something. I never really got that ending. I just know they built up that horrible thing that was taken care of in a few seconds.
Have a banana productions
But there where a lot of moments teasing the litch returning. I was so unsatisfying to not see him returning,
as a yes the Lich was a terrifying villain but he was just a “scholar of Golb”. So if one of the most terrifying characters is just an underling, then the boss is obviously a more powerful being, which is Golb. Also the purple catalyst comet wasn’t Finn’s mom, she was still a conscious being before that comet hit Ooo. The comet was an entirely new entity that had Orgalog and Finn not interfere with, would have reincarnated as a being who could change all of a Ooo. We just didn’t what purpose it had.
To put your review in a nutshell, Adventure Time had all the "Adventure" but it never had the "Time" to properly flesh out a good story.
they had 10 whole ass years to flesh out something, but because cn got greedy, they artificially increased the shows duration 5 seasons more
@@santiagocarrer7394 Exactly, I feel that Adventure Time would've been better if Pendleton Ward was still involved within the production.
@@alessandrogordillo1998 yeah, he wanted the series to be much shorter, but cartoon network wasn't just gonna let it's cash cow slide away, so they kept making season after season and it started to feel like the show was transforming into Steven universe, a show that was only ever even popular because people wanted closure to the lore, with no actual character development or anything like that, tho adventure time got a much minor version of the effect
@@santiagocarrer7394 Actually there was little to no charecter development in Adventure Time, actually.
I wanted Finn to remember his reincarnation lives and harness the powers of the comet. I wanted Marceline to become less callous and laid back and become more responsible and mature. I wanted PB to lose her controlling and probably sociopathic nature and have respect for life and her friends and appreciate free will. Most Importantly, I wanted Ice King to achieve peace in his mind, reverting to Simeon while still possessing Ice powers ( Ice Professor!)
So many possibilities, so little running time.
@@alessandrogordillo1998 All it needed was time
What about the fact that they introduced most of the villains of adventure Time to fight for the war but they didn't actually do anything in the war except for running
Away from golb
yeah that's another problem which would've been solved if they gave the war with Gumbald its own episode/season rather than cram in everything in like one.
Blue TDG
I hated that more than anything.
Literally the previous episode and they crammed all that shit in the finale instead.
ME MOW RETURNED AND ONLY APPEARED FOR LIKE A FEW SECONDS TWICE!
Ricky Archuleta III Me-Mow was my fav villain!
Because that was the point
Another problem is that the finally also didn't conclude about Fin's relationship. I really hated that they forced him and Fire Princess to break up and after that hinted of possible love interest just to not have it settled in the end.
But in the episode "wild hunt" it's hinted that huntress wizard and Finn are going out
@@KEEPTALKIN8215 But again, the finally never concluded that if they got to together or not.
Gumballfan 123 i think they are going out just off screen i mean why else hw was in finn seventeen birthday party
@ballownfist 34 the point is thats an utterly unsatisfying conclusion to Finn's relationship plotline. Imagine how upset the Bubbline would feel if after all that buildup, they didn't get any of those moments in the finale for Bubbline.
Finn and HW had no interaction whatsoever in the finale despite HW being there and thats just as bad as the lack of overall resolution for characters.
@@gumballfan1232 So that's it then? Finn is NEVER gonna score?
They did Finn so dirty. Forgetting entirely about your main character and doing excessive fanservice to side characters and such was pretty much just downright awful.
HAHAHAHA.... i would love to see your reaction to the opposite of this
"oh forgetting your main character for side characters is bad"
dragon ball: THIS IS THE GOKU AND VEGETA SHOW WHO NEEDS SIDE CHARACTERS
dragon ball is so goku and vegeta focused all the side characters do absolutely nothing but watch goku and vegeta do all the heavy lifting SINCE THE NAMEK SAGA. even in the tournament of power the beginning was just kicking out all the side characters and the other half was goku and vegeta. i personally love it when shows use the side characters a lot, it gives the world a sense of life and like they are REAL people with REAL emotions and not just watching 1 guy do everything for them
@@leoneyamada5408 comparing goku to finn is funny af, finn becomes useless bruhv
@@higatoria6005 im not comparing fin to goku. im making fun of you by saying dragon ball fans BEG for the side characters to do something because the side characters have watched the fights and doone the whole "HE HAS REACHED A NEW POWER WAAAAAA" for like 30 years now... so you saying you hate how they build up the characters in a show that has been around for so many seasons and gone threw fin and jakes story and then some is silly. fin is A HUMAN, not only is he just human he is human in a world with giant mech gumball machines and vampires and glob who is A GOD LIKE CREATURE who can be summarized as bad feelings but in giant baby form. no normal human kid is going to go out and murder armys with a swing blow. the fact your complaining at all just shows how small minded you are. i enjoyed seeing the other characters views because i find fin to be the most boring character in that entire world and even his side kick jake is cooler then him. he got his arc and once that happens i wanted to see other peoples arcs. if you want to watch 1 person adventure for 10 seasons go watch one piece, that show is about adventure and the main hero so its boring enough for you to enjoy. and dont bother replying i wont be reading it
@@leoneyamada5408 omg you deadass wrote an essay just to respond to a virtual opinion on a tv show that was made for kids, absolutely tragic. You missed the point too, the main character should never be thrown out and using dbz as a comparison is horrible. Finn is useless from season 6 and on which just made the show go stupid bc you progressing this char for (mind you) 5 seasons and throwing him to waste
@@higatoria6005 i guess i wasnt clear enough on the last line for your dumbass to understand. I DONT CARE SHUT UP AND GO DO SOMETHING OTHER THEN COMPLAIN ABOUT AN OLD KIDS TV SHOW. i hope thats clear enough for you. i pray your mom gets 5 minutes of peace that isnt you being a bitch baby
I am glad people can see how much Adventure Time diverted from what was originally established. Development should have always been finn focused. Many elements changed, but what was always weird for me was how bubblegum changed when she went back to her age. Her attitude changed to Finn and she was a lot less enjoyable. They neutered Marcelines personality and role in the series as they pushed the bubblegum relationship.
i always took that transition was bonnie "growin up", or well her innocent side kinda caved away as more and more threats arose to the candy kingdom. It wasn't all fun and games anymore, and she had to protect her people
I agree I stopped watching when Marceline’s character became more neutral and boring... and you’re right bubblegum did change... and I don’t think it’s because she matured... she was 1000 years old and she hinted even in earlier episodes how her job isn’t fun and she has a lot to deal with etc. she hinted at matureness more than enough in earlier eps... so I disagree...
People have many, many sides to them. PB was complex. The 'changes' they made were us getting to know more of these sides. Look at Patience St. Pim's vision board of PB when she's first scoping her out. That is a well-rounded analysis.
it did change but that isn't exactly a bad thing
Also Marceline got her own mini series. How is that neutering her role? And yeah she went from being edgy in that very first episode we meet her in which you're clinging onto to, to being well-rounded.
and they've used the second last episode on a freaking Minecraft Ad
Moraco Mole that was the most stupid thing I ever watched
That entire episode felt like comic relief...
That episode was more relaxing and fan service in a good way
It was a special, not the penultimate episode.
oh no what a tragedy i hate the series now MY GOD your so right the episode before the last one.Nice you fucking idiot
Controversial opinion, adventure time never knew what it was or what it wanted to be, and as such, had a problem finding a good story or main character to anchor on to for the series later on. I think the earlier episodes were fantastic, but later episodes were so annoying disorganized that I stopped knowing what to care about halfway through the series.
The series definitely knew what it was in the earlier episodes and you could the lack of structure is the result of Pendleton ward stepping down in season 5.
JJ_1002_ 2 yeh in the early days it just wanted to be a goofy comedy show for kids in this apocalyptic world. If was entertaining and interesting, now it seems as if it was trying too hard to be like game of thrones or something
@@znightowlz6585 the apocalyptic feel from the flashbacks added some very needed depth
Elijah Manzo yeh but the show should’ve stayed like that
Me too
Gravity Falls is the perfect example of a finale done right. It closed off the central narrative with a satisfying resolution, while keeping that open-ended feel Adventure Time was aiming for. I supposed that’s the result of having a tighter, more focussed story overall though.
That because gravty falls had only tow story lines that conected togther one ended in seasson 1 the other ended in seasson 2
Doesnt change the fact that gracity falls finale is better
honestly though....not perfect they wasted potential on that whole ritual thing that was built up since the beginning. They both had good finales though that were done right.
Yeah even gravity falls was rushed yet they managed to make a WAY more better ending
aydee peperoni I don't know about a better ending but a better finale
Okay I wasn’t the only one who thought it was rushed. It should’ve had more time. The whole series (I think around season 6.) FELT RUSHED. I blame Cartoon Network and maybe some time constraints, (and probably some lazy people on the animation or writing team...)
Yeah, it felt as if they had a check list of plot points to end, and had so many that they had to make every one in just one or two episodes. "The alien from another dimension that is the real father of Jake"? One episode. "The origen of the candy kingdom"? One episode. And so on and so forth...
Victor Valls ALSO, there wasn’t any explanation on why Me-mow got huge. (Unless there was an outside source that says he got bigger because that’s how he was supposed to be OR he was in the background somewhere where he was shown getting bigger through magic...) and now here I am just left with baseless assumptions.
@@lisabarnes924 And don't get me wrong, it's okay to leave some plot points so that the fans can theorize about them, but when you use three freaking seasons to cap every plot point, the unaddressed ones look just forgotten.
I blame Cartoon Network too. The show needed at least another 2 seasons o tell it's story. But I still enjoyed the finale very much.
@Bret Hart Adventure Time never really had a bad plot, it's trying to tell more with it's plot, and I honestly didn't see many jokes in the finale. You could point out bad things about anything all day. Nobody is going to like everything. Let's just accept that we're all entitled to our own opinions. Here, I'll give you a few examples: Steven Universe can't tear itself away from Steven, if a character is developing, Steven needs to be there. Regular Show has zero logic, nothing holds up and everything is anticlimactic. Smash Ultimate tried making a rpg style adventure mode that no fan cared about because that's not what Smash fans play Smash for. I could go on and on about billions of bad things about hundreds of popular things. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion...
Unless you like The Emoji Movie, if you like that trash your opinion doesn't count.
The problem is "Adventure Time" introduced many story arcs throughout the series and they decided to finish all those arcs right in the final episode instead of just giving a right concluson to them in their rightful episode slots. But those slots were taken by pointless filler episodes.
Thats true i wish we got there Character Arcs concluded much earlier
technically, lemongrab x LSP was hinted at in a brief scene in the episode ''normal man''
but it was more for a joke than anything
Just Bluestick It‘s freaking me out that there‘s food on the blanket!
@@dubbingcollapse9966 ?? what do you mean?
@@dubbingcollapse9966 oh! ok I get it now just found the scene it makes sense now
I still don't think it was a confirmed ship or anything. I think it was more like a "I think we're all gonna die, let's have one final kiss."
yeah I just think of bill cypher who was always looming in the background always watching and planning
I've never seen a protagonist been written out of his own show so god damn hard
Jake is the protagonist to, it's not just Finn the human
@@PrinceFloof Well then it’s just plain unreasonable. Why does Finn get the short stick beating him?
that did not happen here though
Yeah they ruined Finn
@@PrinceFloof I would say Jake is "only" his older, goofy brother that Finn looks up to(less so as the series progresses) who sometimes acts as a mentor figure.
Imagine being a secondary character in your own show 🤦🏽♂️
What are you even talking about? His character arc ended in the comet with him learning over the course of the latter half of the series in stuff like seventeen.
Finn was the best character, I don't know why the producer's made him a secondary character 😭
Reminds me of the mixed reception of the final episode of Samurai Jack had.
Yeah... that's another finale I didn't appreciate either.
Steve Simpson
With that finale, I mostly found it average. Given how season 5 was building up to the theme of leaving teh past behind, I thought it would have jack come to the realization that even though he couldn't return home, he could at least fight for the future. And while I expected for Jack's allies to help him battle Aku, it was too convenient for them to just so happen to show up despite being distances away from the location.
Admittedly, I stopped watching Adventure Time around the fifth or sixth season, mainly because Cartoon Network stopped promoting it for long durations of time. With the finale, I thought it was okay, but was largely unaffected by it because I hadn't kept up with the show for a couple of years. As for main issues...I guess Marceline and Princess Bubblegum. Now, I am not saying that because I am anti-LGBTQ; quite the opposite. I am all for having them represented in any form of media (yes, even children's shows) as long as it doesn't feel forced. Really, I get the sense that at that point the writers of the show were pandering heavily to the fanbase with the kiss. To me, the kiss seemed a little too forced. I mean, that the writers had animated this scene, but they needed to add something on because it would seem that the scene would be otherwise lacking. I wouldn't even mind for the two to be a couple without the kiss, but at the very least, the relationship had more build up to it than Korrasami.
I also felt cheated with the idea that there was supposed to be some big war only for it to quickly get resolved. As for the actual plot, I will agree that GOLB is a formidable foe being the primordial embodiment of chaos and discord, but at the same time, GOLB's arrive felt kind of undermining.
in my opinion it should've ended with jack killing future aku, saying goodbye to all his friends, ashi telling jack how she won't exist if past aku is killed, and him going back to the past, killing aku and becoming emperor
Robby apparently Rebecca sugar pushed for the Marcy and PB kiss and it happened, I didn't even watch the finale and everytime I saw a review I would cringe everytime they brought up how happy they were for it to happen and yeah I guess it is nice to have lgbt rep for peeps that go that way
@Aspiring Marauder I think it would have been perfectly executed if they gave a few seconds to show it during down time instead of mid war. Like just a epilogue scene of them watching tv and having a kiss would have felt more natural.
I hated how Finn and Jake were just side characters for the finale
Same it made no sense
BMO did more against Golb than finn
Exactly like they were the main characters overall to begin with and they just got tossed to the side
I was kinda fine with the finale but I was disappointed that finn didn't at least have a loving relationship with any girl. He was perfect with huntress wizard.
The kid is just 17
He doesn't need to be in a real relationship
I think i'm fine with him just not having a relationship, he decided that he needs and maturity to be in another relationship and I'm ok with it, you know he pretty much *blew it* with FP, he wasn't mature enough to understand that in satisfying his own desires he was hurting both FP and Ice king.
I didn't really care about him being in a relationship.
Elton Xavier the kid is almost an adult
@@eltonxavier5523 "The kid is just 17" is such a poor excuse. Gumball Watterson was able to hold a relationship with Penny, and he's around the same age. TAWOG made it work and it was very satisfying. It's a true damn shame how absolutely nothing worked out for Finn in the end.
Off topic, but same goes for Mordecai. Sure, he has a wife now, but all that build up with Margret and CJ over nothing was a pretty large let down. Not to mention Adventure Time and Regular show were the two shows I would watch religiously.
i think gumbald's death was the most dumb thing they did when they ran out of idea's
Gumbald didn't die-- well, he kind of did actually.
gumbald has no impact or significant role in the last episodes tho , you can remove him , remove the war , and still have the same if not a better ending
@@Coitus_Cream No that would leave the viewers wondering what happend to gumbald or why was gumbald even there
@@Coitus_Cream And leave a hole
I agree him becoming a candy person was pretty dumb
I will still consider Ed,Edd n Eddy's Big Picture Show as a perfect example of a Finale. Everyone got equal time to develop moreso then Come Along With Me. I do want to clarify that the Journal 3 book did explained that it took weeks for Grunkle Stan to get his memories back. Though i don't blame you for not liking how that was handled in the episode. I reccomend getting Journal 3 because it clarified more of the show's backstory. It's also perfect material for a potential Season 3. Seriously why can't Alex Hirsch Adapt Stanford's journey into the Portal? That's Perfect Season Material right there. I think having Season 3 be a Prequal Season would be PERFECT.
I read some comments and suddenly the word "Journal" caught my eye. I read your comment and saw something about Gravity Falls. I am happy.
Not tryna turn this into an Ed Edd n Eddy comment section, but i feel Johnny didn't get proper closure by the end of the movie. I feel the whole Cpt Melon Head plot was a cop out for the writers having no use for Johnny... just imo.
Deciding when you had enough of future cartoons is no easy matter
Ed, Edd n Eddy has a wholesome series finale than adventure time
GraCity falls has put it's gags past the edge of maturity
Adventure Time started going in the wrong direction a long time before the finale.
How so
@@audreyharris7643 started taking itself too seriously. The golden age was season 2 to early season 5, then it got weird and boring.
@@XP-nt9iy adventure time was always weird from the Start it didn't get weird. But if you're not a fan of the the more serious aspects of the show that's fine
This video basically sums up my entire opinion of the show itself. There are so many moments of genius and so many glimpses of amazing potential, but the pacing was always so rushed that what should have been its best moments rarely hit. The only episode that I really felt did what it set out to do well was the reveal of the Ice King's past as Simon. That episode basically spent its entire run-time laughing at the ice king's expense, only to very suddenly and jarringly turn that around on you when the truth was revealed, making you feel like such an asshole for laughing at him, which is exactly how Finn and Jake felt when it happened. But most of the other episodes that had moments that could have felt just as powerful don't land because the show tries to force every story to be resolved in 11 minutes, which is not enough time to build up a proper emotional beat in many cases.
It's really sad to me because I WANT to like Adventure Time a lot more than I do. I love it's oddball sense of humor, it's surreal art direction and setting elements, and it's more serious moments had the potential to be so amazing.
But they just didn't give the stories room to breath.
The exception, however, is what you said at the end about the show not feeling like it concluded. There, I disagree. That I actually feel is a good way to go about making the world feel alive. It doesn't end just because we stopped telling the story. Finn and Jake don't just stop being Finn and Jake because we've reached the end of the plot. The world and it's characters go on. We just stop talking about them because you have to end a story at some point and generally, it's best to end it at their greatest accomplishment. Nothing will top the defeat of a god, so stop the story there, but make the audience aware that they kept on doing what they did. Let our imaginations have some stuff to linger on, play around with, and enjoy for a while after the show ends.
In the last few seasons there were too many damn characters. It was like making a stew & tossing everything in the kitchen into it.
I've heard rumors that Pen Ward kinda gave too much free reign on the show, even before he dropped down from Season 5.2, and that the other writers had their own ideas for what would happen to the characters, which was never properly communicated between them.
*no...Best show.... Period*
@@aflickingbadger7489 they have their own opinion you have your own. Period
@@panckaes2022 *i am god so you will obey me. Period*
"Emergency plot armour"
That alone makes any show/episode loose a few points.
7:41 Today I learned emergency plot armor is the best kind of plot armor.
It's like adding a extra item in Rock paper ✂️ scissors that beats everything because you just can't lose..
@@Bonesph and that item is called "Mary sue"
@@aydeepeperoni6018 or marty stu, or does that depend on who's using it?
eh...how many points? as honestly I wouldn't call it "plot armour"
TBH, I preferred the earlier seasons when it was simple, not exestensial crisis and edgy beltlords.
I remember that i cringe when Jake asked Finn if they could kill themselves in the episode Slime Central
i feel the same way man. Adventure time was supposed to be a light hearted comedy and i liked it better that way. Then it started getting deeper and i just didn't enjoy it as much. not saying the later seasons were bad but it was just better when it was simple. They should have focused the finale and season 10 on The litch and build finn and jake to become great heros/adventurers and leave a legacy maybe even get billy involved along with everyone else. AND KEEP MARCELINE AND BUBBLEGUM AS FRIENDS!!
@@Godoftheinternet. how old were you when you started watching?
Timothy Marsh like 11 or 12 but that was in 2010
Ivan Ringle Adventure time in it's early seasons is what the show was supposed to be when the Pendelton Ward the creator was still writing it.
"Temple of Mars" felt more like the "real" ending with glimpse of the future and Betty coming to terms with her past. Also, Betty is the worst and almost everything that happens is her fault.
Erik Morton yeah Temple of Mars is my fav episode
To be fair she was crazy because of magic
But she sacrificed herself to save Ooo
Isn’t that how it all works? All of our problems are caused by ourselves. Just heard that from somebody
how was almost everything her fault? like I get some stuff but almost all of it?eh...
EDIT: wouldn't say having temple of mars be the final episode would be a good idea honestly....I feel it wouldn't be as satisfying as it was here in come along with me
I thought the finale was flawed but fun, and I don't think it was meant to be a traditional finale, like in regular show. Adventure Time is a never ending story in which we only got to see a chunk of. I think this episode was trying to say that although the show maybe ending, and the biggest threats have been defeated, the Adventure still goes on. It even says so in the theme song: "The fun will never end."
Yeah
agreed
Yep
the ending still ain't good. Sorry fam
@@lapplandkun9273 well that's your opinion
What actually bothered me a lot is the 1000 years in the future thing. Like,most of our beloved characters are either dead or unknown. Also it shows Ooo as an abandoned waste land,which is really depressing.
Agreed
‘Most of our beloved characters are either dead or unknown’ yeah, cause most of them aren’t immortal. But I see your point for Ooo looking like a Dystopian society.
I actually cried with the ending, not because it was sad or anything but because they presented us a whole new season full of ideas and characters for potential adventures we will never experience. For me it didn't work as an ending because nothing ends and it makes me feel strange knowing the adventure will never end but we won't be there to see it continue anyway, it isn't a satisfactory finale as all the potential the show has will never be exploited.
Also, Finn's reincarnation looks like Max from Sam and Max.
Omg yes
It literally says "the fun Will never end" in the intro
I think that was the point, we only see a tiny chunk of Ooo’s history, the story isn’t over, we just won’t be there to see it
I mean, BMO explained it pretty well; after the finale, people just kept on living. That's all they've ever really done throughout the entire show's run. Part of why I never got into it, but also why I respected Adventure Time, was that character and plot development and everything that would normally be important in your usual overarching plot cartoon can be placed to the wayside for who knows how long because other things are just happening anyway. But at the same time, those overarching plot elements don't really disappear. Not my thing personally, but the finale always seemed to represent everything the show has always been, good and bad.
the point of the show: the adventure never ends
you: BUT THE ADVENTURE DIDNT END.
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This is in stark contrast to the Regular Show Season Finale. The ending was so insane and awesome, yet also so emotional when Pops sacrificed himself to defeat Anti Pops and save everyone, that it left my jaw dropped the whole time. It felt like the perfect finale for the series.
Regular show was great
This finale was definitely better than the regular show one. The last season of regular show was also terrible so that doesn’t help, nothing that show did even comes close to adventure time honestly
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My least favourite part of the shows finale had to be when the villains they brought in in a previous episode just up and left. When they brought in a sizeable amount of villains form older seasons, I expected a fight or something involving them as well. But when Golb showed up, all of them (except the ice king) just up and left. They had so much potential, and for me a lot of hype, and they just threw it away. Otherwise I loved most of the finale, but it wasn't my favourite part of the series as a whole.
Was really hoping fern would murder bandit princess because of what she put him through. tho it might just be me hating Bandit princess with my entire heart and soul
I agree the pacing was poor due to the amount of loose threads trying to be tied up. However, I think the larger issue is a loss of focus. I didn't like how Finnand Jack were relegated to identical to the supporting cast. While the show had success fleshing out and strengthening the supporting class, I still feel AT worked best when focused through the eyes of Finn and Jake, particularly Finn. I thought the finale lost its focus and it was indicative of the larger struggles of AT. I didn't hate the ending, but I think AT will ultimately be rememered fondly as charming and highly influential, but at the same time a flawed show and this conclusion solidified that.
Keep Cartoon network made it shorter
They probably should've just made it a 90 minute movie
It's finale in a nutshell:
One question is answered
Hundred more take its place.
More like “women good, men bad” “socialism good, capitalism bad”
@@MikehMike01 the first one was actually a really nice depiction, second one not so much
@@MikehMike01 How
@@MikehMike01 I don't get the first one either
@@MikehMike01 not really
Ever since Pen Ward let go of the reins, the show's been weird in a not so good way. It lost some of it's innocent charm and also felt like I was constantly being told to like what they put in front of me or else.
I don't know. It felt condescending, maybe?
keep in mind dumb cartoon network made it shorter
got weirder but I wouldn't say it was a good or bad way just a interesting path they've choose and wouldn't call it condensending
It got better with time
But I also agree that the gum war should’ve been in a previous episode so we could have more focus on Golb and other character interactions... I would’ve liked a larger glimpse into future Ooo as well, reading about how Pups became the dominant species on Ooo and such made me really interested , hopefully they might continue with comic issues !
The worst part for me whas when they reavealed all the villians in the second last episode and then in the final episode there are like 2 of them running away in the backround
Exactly, why the hell do you bring them all back when you literally don’t see any of them engage in anything throughout the entire finale, do the writers not think of this shit one piece at a time?
@@dinnermeats2 Suddendly i ended remembering Exit 9B from Regular show and how they portrayed that battle that involved returning villains. Of course making every single one go carefully would be hard due off trying to keep things under contrl but still...one felt dread and also urgency in stopping that army. And that was a season opener, not finale, so i dont get what excuse had adventure time.
(EDIT: I’ve never gotten so many likes on a comment I don’t think! Thanks so much hehe)
I think the main reason it didn’t feel like a finale was because in the end it wasn’t trying to be one. One of the biggest appeals of the show to me has been its expansive universe and the crazy and amazing inhabitants of it. I agree with you when you noted that it didn’t actually end anything , instead it seemingly set up more stories and plot lines for further seasons, though of course there are no more to come. Personally , I adored this move on their part. It keeps alive what was so enticing about Ooo; seemingly infinite adventures and stories , and unsolved mysteries we may have to deduce ourselves. With this “finale”, the crew stays true to the words of the intro: “the fun will never end, its Adventure Time!”
In addition, that leaves the series open for a reboot in a couple generations
@Some ugly guy um, no, its not permanently gone. Have you noticed the cartoon network trend of rebooting their content? In ~10 years theyre bound to pick the series back up to exploit those with nostalgia for the original series. And maybe by then theyll have realized quality content is important
Some ugly guy what I meant about leaving the series open ended was mostly about keeping the personality and legacy of Ooo mysterious and seemingly endless. Of course , as I said, that isn’t the reality, but think a little more creatively! I wasn’t even thinking of a potential reboot hehe but I did hear they are continuing some elements through comics and stuff.
@Some ugly guy a lot can change in 10 years. They could enter a second ren... rennai... a third golden age.
Maybe, and I mean MAYBE, they might continue the show later on in ANOTHER dimension. Like (Because of the lack of examples with me I'm choosing a game) Undertale and Deltarune, different dimension BUT with the same characters, similar story and that one dude who knows both universes. It could take place in Adventure time like it did with Finn and Jake and their female counterparts (which I was never able to understand because I missed MANY episodes). Let me know what you think.
Y'all remember when it was just a goofy show about a weird kid and his magical dog? Just roaming around trying to help people and have fun? Yeah, I miss these episodes
Those were the good old days....
you calling Finn a weird kid, is why they changed it in the first place, 🤦🏾♂
Loved your critique. Though I think the "end" feeling like another beginning was intentional as reincarnation was a fairly persistent theme throughout the series. Not how I'd end a series but I understand its purpose.
There's a New Adventure Time Spinoff Show Called Marceline and Simon is Coming In 2019
Joy Galler actually, it’s a comic, I think
Well, those WERE the most interesting episodic episodes of AT. I wanted Bubblegum to get her own spinoff show, or to become the surprise villain of the series. Neither happened.
dpeical
omg fucking for real? come on
i'd watch the fuck out of that. I love Simon and Marcy's relationship
Adventure Time kinda lost its touch, when they started getting a tad bit serious.
Me and my sister used to watch it a lot, but we slowly lost interest.
because you're children
@@clubdonk9651 Well this is a children's show...
@@ve6009 meh not really
@@clubdonk9651 Sure
Timothy Marsh It’s literally 12+
Marcy and Bubblegum is one of the most forced toxic relationships I've ever seen in fiction. It's so cringy bad.
Dude your profile pic is toxic
That is just fffffffff relationship
@@generalman9241 The good kind of toxic. Mmmmmm
@@Bopperann no the hella bad toxic
@@generalman9241 Nah nah. Ya got ya senses mixed. NPCs aren't toxic. Bleep bloop bleep.
Marcy and Bubblegum were a terrible idea. They fight constantly. The season finale death fake out was cringy cringe, and not because they are both female but because it was a stupid forced fake out. Horrible relationship, so very very forced, not organic at all.
People only like the relationship because they're gay, and those people have serious problems. That's not how ANY decent relationship should be/is.
imo they introduced way too many characters in the later seasons. Some of them are pretty cool but like there were so many characters introduced that I wish they had just kept the cast slightly smaller.
So many characters proved the show went downhill
The series made way too many episodes
Hiatus stressed me out
Yep no need for gumbald and company.
To bad fin didn't get his arm back while turning back with Betty and Simmon
Right? The other two 'reverted' but the fact that Finn never did bothered me.
I mean, I love the fact that he's got to live with his disability, but it canonically doesn't make sense with what Golb was doing to them while digesting them. Finn should have been affected as well, even if it was just to grow his arm back.
@@bigschmill294 glad I wasnt the only one who thought of this. like it wouldve been a really good way he couldve gotten his arm back.
BigSchmil well, I think Golb was digesting them into their most basic forms, not their previous forms. Finn was destined to lose his arm and he was still himself as IK and Magic Ma’am reverted back to Simon and Betty, they faced drastic change while Finn has just grown
I just realized that *NOW*
It's because he's finally content with him losing his arm.
Adventure Time started to rapidly go downhill after Season 5, and this film is when it completely burned out and lost the chance to become a classic show.
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Omg it’s the racist tracer
I don't care about you
To me it was pretty bad too...
- No redemption for Fern;
- Finn doing nothing heroic overall in the episode;
- Betty being Deus ex machina for the Nth time;
- They "Kumbayaad" the shit out of Golb;
and the list goes on...
For me fp. She didn't do anything. She got one punch and that's it.....
Fern's redemption was deciding to reconcile with Finn, kill his grass demon and fought with everything he had left against GOLB even if he couldn't realistically do anything.
Finn stopped Bubblegum from throwing her entire life away and letting his closet friends fight in a war that would've ruined thier world. Fighting was only going to lead to bloodshed and nightmare juice was the only way to control the conflict before it could spiral. Plus, if the battle actually happened, then by the time GOLB arrived everyone would either be dead or so weak they wouldn't have had the strength or energy to fight back. The world would've actually ended that day, and it would've been his fault if he didn't appose Bubblegum's orders. Also, without his help, Ice King would've never gotten up to Betty, that crown would've never been to its wishing function and Jake wouldn't have tried to fight Golb with song if he didn't know that Finn got eaten by GOLB.
Betty was a self-destructive deus Ex Machina as all of her actions would actually hurt and traumatize the show instead of help it. Her final act may have saved the world but it punished her and fused her existence into an Elder God with no chance of escape. She saved Simon, yes, but she also left with even more surviors guilt and self-hate that will never be undone. Plus, this was the only time she actually was effective in her deux ex machina bull.
The cast made one last stand against GOLB and the show acknowledged that it wouldn't be enough with harmony even if it wasn't effective. All the song did was give GOLB a tummyache and torture his monsters. If Betty didn't make her wish, GOLB would've still made monsters and once the main cast would lost their voices, then they would have no chance. The stars was aligned for them and they just went with the flow. That's all there is to it.
@user-bv8pn6sg7d The things that were poorly written wouldn't have happened in the way they they did if a detail changed but this specific poorly written setting was kept the same...what an insight...
You can bend anything to be anything...Betty being whatever kind of Deux Ex Machina is not good, It doesn't matter "the guilt she felt" Deus Ex Machina is poor writing, nobody can be a hero cause Betty is the hero she has to sacrifice herself she figured out how to solve the problem. Her sacrifice was not tragic...it was heroic...why? Cause the writers apparently loke her...
However you spin it this ending was a clusterfuck...
Honestly I don't think any of your suggested fixes would've worked. There was simply not enough time to address everything, and slapping Golb in there was just completely out of nowhere and needed more time to build up (like, MULTIPLE episodes).
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought the Finale was bad. For me, though, the primary reason was Finn. He didn't do ANYTHING of substance! The only thing he ACTUALLY accomplished in that finale was convincing Fern to be good again. Oh, and Fern "dies" immediately after, because why not? lol
He doesn't stop the war. Some people might get easily confused and THINK he did, but no. Finn tried a thing and it DIDN'T WORK, forcing Nana Gum to step in. Nana Gum stopped the war, not Finn.
And why did the war have to be stopped anyway? Oh, right, because it was the Final Episode and they wanted to squeeze in Golb so basically the war wasn't allowed to happen under any circumstance, even though the episodes up until now had been building up to this war and the previous episode revealed a rogue's gallery of all of Finn's worst enemies ready to take him on in what would've no-doubt been an EPIC FINAL BATTLE.
Oh, except no, because Finn wasn't going to participate anyway because he suddenly turned into a wuss on us.
No don't give me that "He's matured" bullshit. None of that "peaceful solutions are always correct and violence is always wrong" nonsense. If you recall that was the ENTIRE THEME of an old episode called "His Hero". Remember that one? When Billie tried to convince Finn and Jake to give up violence BUT IT KINDA TURNED OUT VIOLENCE CAN SOLVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS IF YOU DO IT CORRECTLY? Now we're un-doing that lesson so we can show off how "mature" and "thoughtful" Finn is? No, fuck that. That's hashtag-not-my-Finn.
#NotMyFinn
Adventure Time has grown a lot since the first season. It's become a pretty great story encompassing a wide variety of characters with real heart in them, especially Ice King, who was always my favorite even before the deep stuff, but just got better after.
But... it's... Adventure Time... with FINN. AND. JAKE. You'd think they'd get to have the spotlight in their OWN FINALE, but if anything this Finale only showed off how well the writers thought the story could do without them.
I thought that moment when Finn was banging uselessly on the inner walls of Golb's cube-stomach was a great metaphor for how I felt his role in the finale had been treated. He's only allowed to be in the finale at all because his name is still in the title of the show, but other than that, the story cares NOT for Finn, the Human.
I guess the only thing I can say I like about this is that it at least shows that Ooo can finally survive without their hero, having basically handled all the threats in this episode by themselves with none of Finn's help at all. I kinda get that. It's important, y'know? For a long time it was made pretty painfully evident that Ooo was like a sad, helpless baby and Finn basically had to do EVERYTHING for it (which is why he ended up being the greatest hero, not that he doesn't deserve that title mind you).
But damn... it was just handled so poorly. Finn didn't get a fond farewell, he got tossed aside like garbage. I don't like it.
I agree except war where thousands are slaughtered gruesomely for the ego of a "leader" is not the same as correctly right timed violence or as i like to call it use of force. If a war can be resolved peacefully without loss of life thats always the right path so finn wasnt immature or being a pussy in that aspect.
What the fuck is wrong with learning you can't help a situation sometimes and that you would feel useless at certain times? Also, violence doesn't solve EVERYTHING, what the fuck is wrong with maturing and being a more diplomatic person? The Billy stuff was the he felt hopeless and pessimistic and Finn helped him to understand you can't let evil win just because it doesn't have an end. Ooooh, like this dumb finale!! Why everybody hates open finales? Haven't you read a book? Or it's that you can't move on the show that you need a hopeless squared end?
I agree DJFlare84, I agree
@@persondavis1294 I wasn't looking forward to the war itself, I was looking forward to the 1-on-several rematch between Finn and his rogues.
Also war is a bad thing. Good on you for knowing basic shit. Did they avoid it in a way that was satisfactorily well written? No.
@@DJFlare84 i apologize for commenting in a way that warranted a disrespectful tone. I was just pointing out that finn trying to stop the war was a mature thing and not a wuss move as you put it. Also i did say i agreed with everything else you said and only responded to what i thought i understood what you meant and if you meant it a different way then alright.
What bugged me the most was how Bubblegum pretty much got away with all her shit, and even "Gets the Girl."
Throughout the show she always came off as a horrible person who can't really be stopped because, well she's a Princess, she can do as she pleases. Yeah she gets dethroned and get a reality check, but that just means she got a slap on the wrist as she just regain control not long later.
I think what should have happened is if she had the Heroic Sacrifice of some kind. Like she prepared a powerful explosive on her incase she was captured during the war, or getting eaten by Glob. "But Tomha, the bomb wouldn't kill Glob." Well then we could have 1 of 2 things happen.
1) The pointless sacrifice becomes a tragedy. The battle will be a bittersweet victory and we'll be given a morality debate on if Bubblegum had redeemed herself for what she attempted, or not. I think it'd be more satisfying then the happy, sugar cane ending we got where everyone got what they wanted.
2) They use some bullshit explanation that the nobility, and compassion served as a weapon of it's own, combined with the harmony of the song to overwhelm Glob, not the actual bomb itself.
Even though it's been a year since it ended, hearing come along with me gives me depression
sameeee
for me it cures my depression
It wasnt even a year when this comment was written though
Now 2 years
Well, we're now getting a new miniseries for HBO Max with four hour long episodes. Let's see if they can address some of the issues in the finale.
EDIT: I regret what I said years ago, Together Again addressed NOTHING from the finale.
@@seans3159 counterpoint your opinion is trash
@jacquelinedavis9948 Screw Bubbleine.
Cartoon Network's face after they made the most open ending in the history of animation and the specials don't even talk about 90% of the new stuff, heck even Fionna and Cake series answered more questions while it wasn't even the main goal
I agree with everything you're saying except the wanting closure on the adventure. I like how it keeps it open. It makes it seem that, even though the show is over, you know that there will always be an adventure.
I stopped watching the show after the whole Finn and his father thing
Because your not a very smart person that did not have to click on this video
@Erios 50
lol. okay
*You're
@@erios5057 You're not a very smart person either kiddo. Just go away.
@@erios5057 dude don't be rude
im just angry they never had a gum war at all
I wanted to see death,guts,and blood.
yah all of that lickerish and hawain punch
I wasnt *ANGRY* but more *DISAPPOINTED*
Exactly, all the fucking buildup and tension for what could have been an ultimate showdown ruined for a wacky random Luigi’s dream team sequence, how fun would it actually have been if this just revolved a show down of all those numbers with the Gum War and with the main characters duking it out with the main iconic villains addressed in Gumbaldia that we saw throughout the entire series, I’d also be as hell satisfied to see Fern and Finn have an ultimate brawl while this all goes out because it revolves around their conflicted characters interfering with each other, and Finn’s attempt to get Fern to understand while doing so. The writers could have actually gone with what their previous episodes actually built up towards, but what do we get instead? We get the most rushed godforsaken anticlimactic brewed mess of a storm that I still can’t forgive to this day. And now Finn and Jake are dead and we’re not gonna get anymore action with this iconic duo forever.
I hate it cuz Finn is single and deppresed
The ending really needed to be more of Finn and Jake-centric. After nearly a decade of character development, it would have been a lot more impactful to see how Finn has grown from an impulsive kid to an adult, showing how he's learned from specific lessons throughout the series to be able to defeat the big bad thing at the end.
I agree that if they knew that it was going to be the final season of the show they should have finished most of the story stuff with the different characters before the final episodes so the ending could have focused on the final battle and saying good bye to all the characters and the world.
Its very important to me that when a show ends it spend lots of time saying good bye to everybody.
From the start this story was about Finn and Jake, they are explicitly mentioned in the opening song. As the show went on, especially after Ward stepped aside, they kept losing focus on the development of their characters and put more spotlight on others in the world, or made a bunch of crappy filler. The finale should have come full circle and let Finn and Jake shine in some epic feats, maybe even killing off/permanently removing one or both of them from the story. One of my favorite fantasy/sci-fi series of books is called "Heroes Die" by Matthew Stover and I think this phrase would have been good to keep in mind for the writers of this show. It doesn't have to be graphic or over the top but something should have happened to one or both of them (IMO Jake should have been killed or sent to another dimension or something similar.) If they had kept things goofy and light perhaps not, but as the plot got serious and dramatic the tone changed and the ending needed to reflect this change in tone. Instead it deflates or ignores our main characters and puffs up others that it shouldn't. It leaves you with a real lack of satisfaction or closure. This should have been the end of Finn and Jake's story together in one way or another, it would have been sad but in a good way. Perhaps this is just my adult brain expecting too much from a children's cartoon but it's how I would have liked to see things end...bittersweet...victory over evil but at a cost. They are okay pushing the boundaries with gay characters but not willing to show true loss...
so we ignoring grass fin? ok.... *~R U D E~*
@@leoneyamada5408 GRASS FINN!? How dare you call him Grass Finn!
This is sarcasm lol
@@leoneyamada5408 eh he's cool but his death would have worked well if the ending wasn't so abrupted
I didn't know ward left, makes sense why the show got worse as it went on
Well putting focus on others was fine really. It does not deflate or ignores our main characters though and it puffs up others that it should. No it does not, you feel satisfied and feel closure too. They did show true loss, Fern, Simon cannot see Betty again for as long as he lives, etc.
The finale was rushed, Finn only played a minor part, gum war sucked. All legitimate points, but somehow so many find PB and Marceline being the deal breaker? Come on. I hate SJWs and PC culture as much as the next guy but that scene was acceptable. It wasn't good nor bad. Finn's arc and development tho to me was done a long time ago in previous episodes. Egress, Islands and Comet eps, etc, all pretty much complete his arc, but yeah not having anything actually happen to him in the final episode sucks. It's also funny seeing people complain about him not shown to end up with anyone. Finn's whole romance arc is that he doesn't necessarily need a partner and he's OK with that. Yeah, he has something with HW but leading up to that he learned to be happy being by himself, which I personally think everyone needs to go through in real life.
King PePePe the problem is he’s the main character so as the main character he has to have the center floor with most things... relationships, breakdowns, literally anything... and honestly I don’t think The whole ok with being alone thing was represented clear enough for the audience...
the gum war was rushed...but I don't think it sucked. not sure entirely how to deal about finn...on one hand this is a lot bigger then just him but he did deserve a role obviously.
Honestly Marceline and Bubblegums relationship bugs me. Mostly because I hate bubblegum and think Marceline deserves better. Also can anyone explain how their relationship was hinted at at all? Maybe I'm just blind but I saw no hints of that romance at all. Especially because both characters were never shown being attracted to women at all before the last episode. All their previously shown relationships were with men.
Yeah but I love bubblegum
Bubblegum's p-jama t-shirt
I actually only liked the first 2 seasons, because they don't handle emotional scenes very well. I know that sounds bad, considering how people cream themselves over the new HBO reboots, which I think belong in a dumpster fire, but I really just liked the innocent first 2 seasons.
The firsts Two seasons of the show where the worst...
@@danielmedinagimenez2503 poorest of taste.
Those two were the only ones I watched and I actually enjoyed them. I kinda prefer if they left it at that. I felt it was a pretty good conclusion where I left off with the Lich and Finn being with his girl who freakishly became his age.
I lost interest around Season 4 I think it was? Where they introduce that dumb character the Huntress Witch, who is so out of place in Adventure Time and feels more like a fanfic character. I liked the Simon and Marcy stuff, even if it was different than the first two seasons. It did however signal what was soon to come
@@tacosunbirth If you look at the pilot. PB was obviously supposed to be Finn's girlfriend. I think they at first intended for her to be a "hard to get" character. Then they realized after doing this for multiple seasons, they called it quits for that and made huntress as a compromise, and then copied other shows by making PB a lezbo (I SAID IT).
I loved the old comics. My favorite was the one where Finn and Jake try out Ice King's dungeon but end up in the Lich's dungeon of psychological torture, if only the book was actually made well. Flipping through the pages made them come off.
New comics kinda suck. The most recent I read was of this brain guy who liked eating the memories of Finn because they were so adventurous. It read out exactly like a fanfic. I feel like the entire story was to just get an excuse to write about adult fin topless in bed with flame princess. I'm not joking.
I wish the show didn't turn into garbage. Probably my least favorite aspect other than the attempt of inclusion inserts is how they portrayed Finn's dad vs Mom. They expected us to hate Finn's dad, and love Finn's mom. I hated both. they did an awful job at trying to show how much of a jerk Finn's dad is, like how the boys did with soldier boy, who they tried to make look awful, but actually looked decent in my eyes. And his mom was a complete jerk as well, except I guess since she's the wife of Finn's dad we're supposed to ignore that.
The best love relationship was Simon and whatever her name was. My name chef
The only comment I have is I like the fact they ended it open. That's my taste tho. The reason is it's open because the show is trying to convey that the world is real. Their will always be more stories and will always be more going on. The adventure is never over, it just simplies continues. This can be seen as good, or bad, cause personally I want more! I want to know what happens! But at the same time I'm content. I know that these characters will continue to live on in their imaginary world that was brought to life by extremely talented people. It's not perfect, but I think it's a suitable end to a show with so much in it. Coudlve been better, but I still like it.
know the difference between open endings and unresolved plot points
Me too
While some of your complaints are valid. It's very clear you've only tuned in for the finale and haven't watched the show in a long time^
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- The Lich didn't want to take over the world
- the episode you're referring to wasn't supposed to be about Ice King turning back into Simon, it was about Betty in the first place, even titled "Betty" far as I remember
- Bubblegun's aunt was a previously established character
- Marceline defeats the monster because she's got the Vampire King powers stored inside
- the adventure not being over was one of the points of the ending
Yea but the ending is still bad or mediocre
Rookey Ji but not that bad it's atleast ok to good
The fact the show had episodes of buildup leading to a war only for it to be completely scrapped down the gutter in ten minutes is something that still conflicts me to this day. Looking back at Amphibia’s finale and I can see it quite literally was Adventure Time’s done right. Have the ultimate battle that you’d been building up to take place, THEN have everyone unite to face the ultimate big bad.
I can understand why he dislikes the episode. Imo, the show taught me that things must move on. That at the end of the day, even despite the fact we view everything around us as so important, our lives and what we know will be mostly forgotten.
I learnt that even though that thought might be incredibly depressing, the life we live is great and we should just enjoy it while it happens.
@Chicken Tendies shows teach life advice genius
The finale gets worse every time I revisit. Fitting since the later seasons get worse with hindsight.
Regular Show's finale was so much better
No not
The lich did not want to rule the world, he wanted to end all life, just a small mistake that I noticed that u said
Super good coment
I didn't think it was that bad but i did like the ending a lot because Adam Muto said in a interview with Polygon that its not supposed to be a definite ending, just a good place to leave this characters because they just end up living the rest of their lives. The show ends, but not the lives of these characters. With that said, the overall episode did feel rushed. But I still satisfied with what was there.
I think not making it a definite ending is a bad way for a finale to be created. If you want to continue the series or leave us to see that the characters will go on and exist in their world after it is all over then you can successfully do this by making the ending have a proper climax after careful structuring of how the episode will run. You need to clear up as many important plot holes and stuff that you can and dedicate enough time to each of them. You could have a badass fight scene and clear up some relationships between characters and really capture the raw emotion of saying goodbye to these characters for good(or just for now) however if the writing isn't there and it isn't done correctly then it falls flat and just leaves you wanting more when it may never come.
@Kyle D. Jonez
Thing is.. you can create a finale and give closure, and still give the finale references that the world goes on and only this story is ending.
They didn't do that.. they just kind of ended a season and set things up for a new season. They didn't give anyone anything that felt like a series finale; and things that did have "finales" like the gumball thing, was just rushed and forced.
@@frostmagemarii remember that regular show comic that picked up their lives after the finale? I'd be surprised if they didn't pull the same type of thing, maybe even go as far as revive it for a reunion episode or new season.
I remember exactly where I was when I first saw the Finale. I was a bit late to the party actually and watched it several days after it had been released. Just didn't have a good chance until then. I was at work on lunch break and I sat down with my little phone in the dark and watched it there while I ate some microwave Mac n Cheese.
It was everything I hoped it wouldn't be.
First of all, that huge fight that they'd been teasing for WEEKS up until the release of this Finale, we didn't get that. Remember the end of the previous episode when Ice King walks into Gumbald's meeting room or whatever and there's Finn's ENTIRE ROGUE'S GALLERY OF VILLAINS? I saw that and I was like "OOOOH SHIT THE NEXT EPISODE IS GONNA BE FUCKING AWESOME".
Yeah, that was a blatant, bold-faced, disgusting lie.
And then after that, not only did we not get the badass war we were promised, but Finn wasn't even allowed to be the one to end it, despite the fact that it was his goal all along (and his alone), and that brings me to the main thing about why this finale sucked so hard: Finn got completely shafted.
Finn only accomplished one thing in all of the Finale's runtime, and that was finally talking down Fern into being a goodguy again, although his reward for this is that Fern dies. So... 8/
Beyond that? He...
1. Made an attempt to end the war with that crazy dream juice plot. It seemed to work, but then it turned out nope it was never gonna work, but it's okay because Nana Gum is here and she fixed it.
2. GOLB appeared and started creating monsters. Finn did jack and shit here because he didn't have a proper sword to fight with (all of a sudden this hampers him?). But it's okay because we have Marceline and now she gets to kiss PB (which was great, but doesn't do much to justify the entire Finale imo).
3. Finn tries to rescue Simon and Betty by diving into GOLB's stomach after them. It is here where we have the best Finn scene so far, where he helplessly pounds on the walls to no avail. It is the best scene because it perfectly encapsulates Finn's treatment throughout the entire finale, being a useless nothing.
4. And finally, it is ultimately Betty, not Finn or even Simon who saves the day by sacrificing herself using the wish-crown to BECOME GOLB ITSELF.
The only good thing that happens to Finn in this finale is that PB gives him a pity kiss on the head at the end and remarks at how much taller he is now. "Congratulations you useless piece of shit you're way more mature than you were before.".
And in the end Finn really has nothing but his best friend and a relationship with Huntress Wizard that honestly wasn't built up enough for me to really care about. She was literally thrown at him at the last minute when they realized Finn can't end the series without a girlfriend or the fans would riot (but I'm still going to riot because Fubblegum would've been best. They had way better development and build-up, not that I hate Bubbline. Bubbline is good too, honestly, but I do regret that Bubblegum was Finn's only real narratively satisfying pairing).
... now that I think about it...
1. His attempt to end the war is outshined by Nana Gum.
2. He gets cucked by Marceline in both fighting monsters and saving the princess.
3. Betty shows him up once and for all and saves all of Ooo while he sits there on his ass being useless.
In every instance Finn not only failed to do anything useful, but this failure was immediately followed by a female character succeeding where he failed. Finn was cucked entirely for the sake of feminism, Jesus F. Christ...
... I will say ONLY THIS in defense of the Finale, though. From a realistic standpoint... it's actually the best ending. Just not from an entertainment standpoint (which is arguably more important but I digress).
It works if you think of Adventure Time as a story about Ooo, and not a story about Finn and Jake (even though THEIR NAMES ARE IN THE FUCKING TITLE but I digress...)
At the beginning of Adventure Time, Ooo (in particular the Candy Kingdom and Princess Bubblegum) is like a helpless infant, constantly in need of Finn to protect it from dangers both serious and trifling. Finn embraced this hero duty and did everything from slaying dragons to mundane everyday tasks like helping a tiny elephant find apples for her pies. He was a nanny, and this is technically a bad thing because, well... Finn the Human... is human.
In episodes like Puhoy and Goliad, we are given a glimpse into the true obstacle that Ooo faces in its future, what it will do when Finn is no longer able to serve as the hero. When he gets old and grey and can no longer save the day (though in "Goliad", Bubblegum's concern is for what her candy people will do without HER but it's a good reminder that Finn will also someday need a replacement).
I guess what I'm trying to say is that the Finale works on a very basic level because it's what the show was naturally building up to. It's important to this finale that Finn was so useless because Ooo needed to prove that it could defend itself, so it did.
I guess if this was the plan all along, props to them for holding to their idea. But to me, it felt empty and sad because Adventure Time wasn't about Ooo. To me it was about Finn and Jake and to see the title characters get tossed aside like this broke my heart. They accomplished nothing heroic or legendary in the FINAL EPISODE of their own damn show and that's kind of disgusting. It kind of makes sense, but fuck sense. I just wanted an epic and satisfying conclusion to Finn's adventures.
This ain't it, chief...
You took the words out of my mouth. I was also excited for the finale after the first teaser was uploaded by CN, waiting for months, imagining how Finn was going to stop the war and save everyone from GOLB. The promos for the finale, with Finn saying that he promised his friends that he'll always be by their sides in a serious tone, the promotional poster for the finale with Finn as the major focus, the song by Rebecca Sugar which really sound something like Finn and Jake would sing... I was hooked. Everything was pointing out to be a finale focused on Finn.
Then the finale came and I wanted to punch a hole in the wall. I haven't been so angry with an AT episode since The Red Throne. What the fuck was that? Why Finn does absolutely nothing? Why he doesn't fight? Why he doesn't sing Time Adventure with Jake and everyone else? Why he doesn't appear in other scenes in the ending montage while PB and Marcy get more scenes than him? Why isn't there anything with him and Huntress Wizard?
What the fuck was this ending? I really want to know what happened behind the scenes for this to happen. It's been eight months since AT ended and I'm still pissed off after how they treated Finn in his own finale. Even worse are the interviews: the majority of them are just Marceline and Bubblegum, and nothing about Finn. Nothing. No clues on what will happen in the future, nothing on his relationship with Huntress Wizard, nothing on him and Jake finding a new home, just nothing.
Most major sites can talk about all they want about the finale being a satisfying conclusion to your favorite characters, Bubbline, blahblahblah and other shit. For me? It's one of the worst finales I've ever watched alongside Samurai Jack. I still wish for CN to do another variation of the finale (like what they did with the original Ben 10 - TWO TIMES) to fix most of the shit no one liked.
@@TheStephanFS I didn't get the feeling of the finale "just" being focused on finn though it felt like something more about everyone
finn's whole arc was already complete honestly.the way it ended with his relationship being ambiguous worked IMO. he did fight though. him and jake would find a new home but not everything needed to be covered.
overall good finale
ok I will say the returning villians were never gonna be the main focus anyways it's not like they actually didn't do anything they did do some stuff.
honestly?Finn already proved himself to be a hero and prior got to finally meet the other humans.
Finns arc was already complete and they did help so they were heroic.
Nana gum ending the war made sense with her close connections to it all
marceline is superpowered so that makes sense.
Betty had to do something useful for once.
overall good finale
Amazing comment right here
The only time i see people praise this episode is when they're talk about the kiss
When Rebecca sugar took over the series she brought her lesbian obsessions from steven universe with her
Ssj Swag finally someone noticed, thank you
That makes me mad till this day
I wonder how anywone can take her to a job that has anything to do with children.
I wouldn't care if it was a normal kiss I wouldn't be pissed.
I care because it was a souless Rebecca sugar kiss I was super pissed.
Wow
you are the worst type of human being that exist and the people that say this is true
I hope you will be a better human being but until then fu#$ right off
I never understood the point of Shermy and Beth
One thing I found interesting thing was the way the commercials for the finale made it look like it was gonna be this super amazing final battle like DBZ style or something
Like the one where it cuts to Jake slowly walking up to the monster ready to fight but then cutting off to something else so you could get excited
*and then in the actual finale he fucking gets hit once and then curls up into a ball on the ground one second later*
never trust advertizements
From what I gathered, Shermy and Beth was supposed to show that the adventure continues. No shit the world continues. It's sad they felt the need to tell us "Hey guys, don't forget, the world doesn't end when the show does!" instead of actually giving a proper ending to the TWO PEOPLE WE FOCUSED ON THE WHOLE SERIES.
@@TheAngelOfTheBottomlessPit Shit i never thought of it that way :0
@@TheAngelOfTheBottomlessPit I'm pretty sure he would be incapable to throw golb miles away but I agree on the monsters
Shermy and Beth are seriously a waste of time character. They serve no purpose.
Regular Show Ending is better
It's much better
@@StevenJones851so adventure time ending is 2nd place? While regular show 1st place gumball could be 3rd
@@Tonzac thats pretty possible
Bubblegum deserved to be eaten by Golb's minions.
Shes a horrible person throughout the show, to a point where any kind of redemption let alone a happy ens should be far outside her reach.
I do not know why the writers made her "one of the good guys".
Didn’t Pendleton Ward himself say that Adventure Time did not revolve around Finn and Jake but the entire Land of Ooo. This story isn’t only about Finn and Jake but also about the changes in the world around them. Stuff happens that you can never expect. I do understand GOLB not being introduced well, but there were a few teasers. All in all the finale was good, even if there were a few mistakes.
Let's give the main character no screen time. brilliant....because tumbler fan service
what was tumblr fan service? Are you referring to bubblegum and Marceline?
@@enol1466 I think he referring to other weird ships like lsp x lemon grab and Gunther x turtle princess.
I watched the finale just now.... It literally ruined my whole impression of the series, especially the situation with Simon. A conflict for many seasons to solve it in 5 seconds is absolutely incompetent and stupid. Half of the arches are not closed, they were not remembered about them, or they were not fully remembered... It was very disappointing. I looked this show because of the good reviews, but in the end I was disappointed that I spent time on it.
Has anyone ever noticed that whenever someone says there vids gonna get tons of hate it never does?
Yeah and im happy about that :-)
I don't know man, part of what I really like about adventure Time is that some things that seem important end up not being important, and seemingly unimportant things wind up being very important.
Another overarching theme of the whole thing is that there aren't always answers, and things always work out, while things change ever so slightly, the fun will never end, and so only adding new plot points to the existing characters, as well as showing the presumed reincarnations of the two main characters feels like the best possible way to end a show like this.
It shows the characters as well as the audience how to let go. The point is to live and to feel and not to have some calculable answer to everything. It's magic. Literally the whole universe is made out of imagination.
I'll agree that some minor plot points were weird, but the show has literally always set up big plots, only for them to be taken down instantly. That's how life is, man, so that's how the show always has been.
My issues:
-No conclusion for Finn's love interest, zero interaction between him and flame princess, and very little focus on him and huntress wizard despite her coming to his party and giving him a gift, I was sure after the battle she would say just like Jake did her reasoning for why they can't be together was dumb, and they get together, doesn't have to be much.
-The battle promised was very lame.I was expecting a huge battle, full of Finn and Jake kicking ass, the evil gumballs vs the good, until Golb comes at which point they have to join forces to fight together. At the end, a main character dies off, like Simon, Jake, or PB, in a heroic last sacrifice, and several other side characters die off, maybe Lemongrab dies for Bubblegum, and she shows him praise and love while he lays dying in her arms, the thing he always wanted, or her evil uncle dies to redeem himself for her. Instead it was a huge cop out with generic power of friendship and peace message, like Steven Universe where they just decided to forgive the diamonds and assume it's all good like the diamonds haven't tried to kill earth off to grow gems and haven't done unimaginable evils including keeping people as zoo exhibits, shattering gems and forcing them to live as twisted amalgamations, opressing gems like Pearls and Peridots into slavery, putting Lapis into a mirror so she can forever be cursed to have people look at her and never be able to be free until Steven saved her.Zero weight, characters all fine except for Betty who I don't give two shits for.
-Finn got shafted badly, no resolution to character, lame ending of him doing nothing, no badass sword fighting, he is the main character.
-Bonne and Marceline has too much focus, it's not fair to give Finn a crappy ending but give them getting together and them living happily ever after.
-Betty becoming golb has zero weight or emotion, because they spend almost zero time interacting before this, and it again just cheapens the story, instead of big battle everyone just fucks off.
-No last battle of the evils of 000, I was expecting maybe the Lich, the zombie mutants, and other dark things throughout the series come to fight, the true battle of good vs evil.
True facts they really ruiñed the show by that ending like for me i also expected a lot more than just that like what is this i get it they're trying to deliver a message and peace is always better than wàŗ and also the important of friendship but come on man what the hack is this
Finn's love life was resolved in Season 10's first episode where he found a new girlfriend with Huntress Wizard who likes his wild and free nature. Although he didn't have that many romantic moments with her, especially during the finale, it still counts as something. Plus, it's sort of a reflection of Jake and Lady Raincorn's relationship. They are wild, untamed and reckless souls bound only by the adventures they go on and the family they have.
The war was never going to fucking happen because A. Despite this show being for all ages and aiming for a mature audience, Cartoon Network would've never allowed an onscreen apocalypse of all of their marketable characters, B. The War actually happening would contradict what this whole season has been about: aka stopping the mistakes of the past from ruining the future and 3. The world gets fucked up anyway 1,000 years later when Jake's decendants become imperialists and the humans industrialize Ooo to D E A T H.
Finn did get a resolution to his character, it just was different from everyone other animated protagonist in the 2010s and 2020s. Instead of fighting a overwhelming threat with violence a scrafical act, or the power of friendship, Finn realizes that all of that shit is gay and will do nothing to stop anyone. Gumbald is a characture of a warlord and Bubblegum is a extremist who does horrible acts because she sees no other option. Season 1 Finn would've done what anyone would've asked of him and he would just fight them but this time, it would not work. Finn showed real and honest maturity by using the nightmare realm to mindfuck all combatants and restore Fern's mind, even if it resulted in his death. Although he was unable to kill GOLB, his actions at least gave those he loved time and enough energy to fight back against discord and its only fair that after 10 seasons of Finn suffering and helping everyone get through their issues, all of his friends and loved ones return the favor and save him. Plus, Finn was a fucking teenager living in a land of danger, tyrants and random bullshit. It was time he grew up and started to respect his life instead of putting on the line all the damn day. Plus, we have Together Again soooo
Marcline and Bubblegum were the best written characters of the show and I don't even care the Bubbline ship. I'm sorry but this was endgame from the start. The staff wanted it since 2013 even if they weren't allowed to at that time, so it was going to happen here.
I never gave a fuck about Betty as a character, I only wanted Simon to be cured in a way that at least kept a copy of the Ice King alive somewhere and the show did exactly that. She deserves to be trapped in GOLB forever and I hope the spinoff of Fiona & Cake's true purpose is to help Simon let of his self-hatred and move on with his life.
The harmony stuff was there since the conception of the show. Harmony is what united Finn's closet friends together. Harmony is what helped Marceline cope with the Ice King. Harmony is what strengthen all and every character in the show. Harmony was never going to defeat Golb but it at least weaken his forces and unite every member of the cast.
Say what you want about the ending, but it at least did something different from every other cartoon endgame. It was told from the dystopian future, the main protagonist used his intelligence and some mind junk to resolve the final conflict, the final boss wasn't a built up antagonist but rather another eldrich diety with a loose association to it's minor overaching antagonist, the lesbian relationship made cannon at the end was actually well developed and made sense as a way to conclude character arcs, and the show's ending is just a self-repating controversy. Advenute Time took risks and every other show that followed try to take a page out of its book only to either get humiliated or forgotten. This was a 10/10
6:54 LSP and Lemon Grab went on a date in the episode “Normal Man” which occurred nearly 2 seasons prior.
I agree. The ending was utter shite
Adventure time was at it's best when it was being a silly comedy, like most I really enjoyed the "serious" episodes when they popped up like first ice king background story episode and such. I soon came to realize I only enjoyed them so much cause they were just a special little piece of chocolate. When the writers saw everyone loved them so much they made the whole series into a huge box of chocolate which as you know will get you sick. it went from a silly comedy to a pretentious melodrama. AT did not have the characters to pull off a serious story they should have stuck to their static characters honestly with maybe minor growth. For some reason just being a silly comedy is looked down on when I feel that's what made this show so fantastic in the early seasons.
*Hypes fan with all the fans with the land of Ooo badies/the main villains gumbald hired for war*
*Makes then run away with them helping no one or doing litteraly nothing while Finn sleeps*
Why did they do that
@@Elvusmiw I think they had no idea how to end the show when they made the episode. They decided to bring them back for a climatic ending for the Gumwar storyline. They then decided to break away from the gumwar storyline in favor of making all the characters stories "end" so to speak. The kiss, sweet pea being old, TV having a job, LSP and Lemongrab being in love etc. They decided to drop story building in favor of fan service.
@@bluebowser3121 stupid writers
@@bluebowser3121 I really hate when they do that.
I mean...so much trouble bringing different villains to form an army taht could had given the land of Ooo a huge problem to the magnitude off higher ones like the Lich...only to end that anticlimatically?
If they weren't going to commit to that then they should had not written that plot in the first place.
I never really like the show after it started going "downhill" that's just my opinion
Season 6?
same
Yeah
While I did love the finale, I agree with most of what you said.
Finn should have had a bigger role. Especially when he had entered Golb. Like he had no reason to be there, like maybe Golb reverts his body to a point where he had the grass arm which allowed him to open up golbs stomach or using his night sword to lessen the chaos golb was causing or something really.
And Golb really did come out of no where especially since it was building up the gum war. Like maybe have a previous episode where in the end we see normal man and Betty about to summon Golb and have a shot of Golb before ending.
I completely agree with what you said, one thing that made me sad about the series is you would have really cool episodes like the one where is fin opened his eyes he would be sent back to the dungeon and then they wouldn't have explination I was just disappointed by the finale because I feel like it was rushed and didn't resolve as much as it needed and just left more questions, Im glad the series was finally able to end but they should have put more effort into the finale.
The Hall of Egrees
This isn't my favourite type of finale but I liked it overall. I thought it was emotinal enough and reminds us that life is a cycle, it doesn't end with us. When we die, life goes on and adventure continues, whether we're part of it or not. I do agree though that everything is really RUSHED and because of that, there's a lot of inconsistencies. To be honest, I think all of the issues you described could've been solved with more time given. Same is happening to Steven Universe, imho. Episodes are too short, hiatuses are too long, plot is too big for such little time and space for development.
I mean, all life WILL eventually end. And we may be living in a period time when it will end. Other then that I agree.
The more I look back at adventure time the more I realize it wasn’t as good as I remember it.
Don’t get your opinion swayed by some TH-cam video, there is still a lot of good writing, emotional depth, and pay off in this show. It was a great shot with a pretty cool ending made even better with Distant Lands
The first couple seasons were good…then it went woke and took itself too seriously
@@Yupthereitism when did that happen
I agree with everything except your final point. A key theme of the series is that while everything changes, it stays the same really. Every thing carries on forever and ever; with Shermy and Beth (undoubtedly reincarnations of Finn and Jake, whether its literal of metaphorical is debatable), and how everybody's stories really just carry on. That message was important and fit with the rest of the show - a definitive ending would go against that.
Hey man I agree with you. The finale was almost a microcosm of the series as a whole.
Contrivance, plot lines that go no where, all that stuff is basically the series as a whole.
Not saying the series is bad per se, but it definitely wasn't one of my favorite series of all time.
The show summarized: hero boy chases after princess and it turns out shes lesbian
They hinted at Marcy and PB’s huge friendship that stretched way back ever since the beginning of the show but I think they were never meant to be a couple cause if they were there would be hints that showed they were, yes we saw hints that showed they had history but we never saw that one big hint that showed they were together before. I think what happened is that with the rise of LGBTQ pride a lot of LGBTQ members were in the Adventure Time fandom, like a REALLY huge portion of them like I saw PB and Marcy ships everywhere from 2016 onward which showed that a lot of the fanbase was LGBTQ and I think with a lot of your fanbase being part of that group they tried to make it appeal to them the masses rather than the actual fans and just decided “hey you remember all these hints of these two’s friendship well it turns out it’s more than a friendship”.
How about a summery of Steven Universe? No planning ahead, character height inconsistencies, contradictions, plot holes, filler episodes, poor character development, Steven never learning any lesson for more than an episode, hiring voice actors based on minority status instead of ability.
I second this - SU had potential to be so much better than it actually is and it feels good to see more and more people turning on it, as a result.
Same feelings I have with Star Vs. from Disney, as well, honestly - Ludo & Toffee are great, however. That's about it.
It is so weird tho to hire an actor based on 'minority status ' tho because there are so many great minority actors. I think it has more to do with who knows who.
wtf does "minority status" have to do with getting for all I know its never been the case, rather who you know as a connection the previous comment above me mentioned. could make the same case for shows featuring non-minorities where its just the creators relatives and friends.
Shakur Burton “it feels good to see more and more people turning on it”
What the fuck?
@@Cartoonist8000 steven universe is so shit now, shakur and others are right to turn on it
People really defending the ending
I know right? Like bro you have to remember the show itself is called “Adventure Time *WITH* Finn and Jake” like that’s the shows real full title I don’t know how much I need to stress this fact.
I loved the show for what it was. It was random, and when it needed to be serious, it hit hard. Each episode held their tone all throughout for most of the series. The ending was so disappointing because it felt like it couldn't decide what it wanted to be.
A show that ran for eight years, following and building the characters and their back stories ended on an episode that jumped around all over the place and was way too rushed. While it did have impressive animation and did tie up loose ends fairly well, it feels like the characters didn't get the farewell they deserved.
While a lot of then did in the end with the Distant Land spin off, it felt the main show kinda got ripped off that special ending it deserved.
We got Distant Lands
I think Adventure Time evolved into the animation equivalent on a video game where you can shoot guns, shut down evil corporations, solve puzzles, level up, change perspectives, speedrun, fight with other characters, etc. It's all over the place and so much going on and you just want to what's the main point?
The whole gumball at golb thing felt like they should've been separate arcs entirely. The whole thing felt rushed and unfinished. Its like putting the Cell and Buu arcs in a single episode from DBZ. You gotta thank Cartoon Network for that one... for cancelling Adventure Time before it could actually finish.
Introducing your final villain day one and setting the defeat of him as the end of the series (small brain)
Introducing your final villain in the last couple seasons when you KNOW the show will have limited time, but still enough to make a good final plot (normal brain)
Introducing your final villain in the last episode (genious brain)
Introducing your final villain in the last few minutes of the last episode right after the defeat of a hyped up fake final villain with extremely limited hints (God like brain)
Im gonna be honest, fin accepting his death had me crying.