Hybrid Vs Road Bike... Why I Sold My Trek FX Hybrid For My Domane Road Bike!
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I’m 75 years old right now. I love bikes, My first serious bike was over 40 years ago: a Schwinn High Sierra. I took a break for several years, and then bought a GSX Schwinn 21 speed hybrid. A few years later, I acquired a Trek 8.3 DS. This year I purchased a Trek Verve + 2, and then I just had to try one of the new electric bikes, so I bought a Trek Electra Townie Go 5i. I love that bike because it allows me to set the intensity of my workout in almost any condition. Two days ago, I rode straight into an 18 mph wind with the temperature at 46 degrees. But I’ve never wanted a road bike because I don’t need to go over 20 mph, and I much prefer the upright position. I love the diversity out there with bikes. I’m trying not to look too hard at a folding, electric, fat-tire mountain bike, but the lust for one is building. I still have and ride all the bikes listed above. I just wish I could resist the folding, electric fat-tire bike.
Really well done video, personal and heartfelt with just enough technical specs to make your points. I experienced the same when I started riding a road bike years ago. But I am turning 68 years old and recently became frustrated that my best times and performance was behind me. So I switched back to a hybrid FX3 with a 1x10 drivetrain and I am thrilled that riding is fun again. Yes, I miss the precision of my 2x11 ultegra, but I’m riding more now and enjoying it more. Bike on!
was road bike not comfortable anymore ? Which road bike did you have ?
My FX3 got me into the sport too. 11 months later I ordered a Domane for all the same reasons.
I just started working in a Trek store and found your commentary about FX vs your choice to purchase a Domane interesting. Glad you are enjoying your new road bike. The FX series is popular in the shop I work at. Helping someone determine the right bike is sometimes challenging if customer is clueless about where they intent to ride the bike and fitness level.
Just upgraded 2 months from an FX1 to a Domane AL5. I did a half century on the FX1 when i had it but I had to work much harder to achieve the same goals as what I am getting with my road bike. With my road bike I have already done a half century, metric century and full century since my purchase in September 2021. Now I am working on my power and speed now. Great video and I have the same perspective.
P.S. I kept my FX1 to ride around the neighborhood with the kids or a light trail.
Done 39 on my FX S5 🤩 and love it but give you props for this video. Also, Domane is just Emonda letters in different order! And so is Madone! 😂
Good job on the 39!! Keep at it. I love the FX series, as it was my first love. Good catch on the letters! 😂
@@johnmanuel7561 Thank you for this video!
The video, however, does not support your claims:
A. you claim 30mph on the trek FX 3 - actually you can reach 36mph at 100rpm - is restricting, yet your maximum speed on the road bike is roughly 20mph.
B. You claim there are not enough hand positions on the hybrid's flat bar which is true, yet you never get your hands off the hoods on your road bike (and for a good reason - you do not want to be too far away from the brake levers...).
@@kottelkannim4919 what’s going on Kottel. Great points you bring up. I’ll address both of them here. #1 When it comes to speed, I said I could not go faster. There are lots of variables that go into speed, being over 6ft tall and 215lbs has a lot to do with it. Secondly, the fastest I’ve gone on my road bike is 46 mph. I’m sure I could beat that, especially since I’ve upgraded my wheels to carbon aero wheels. However, in its stock form I was able to go about 18mph faster. Grant it, I should be going faster, we are talking an $800 bike vs a $3000 bike.
#2. Yes in this 7 mins segment of this ride I did not move my hands as I was not pushing it and just cruising, however, when I achieved my tops speeds, I was in the drops and when I climb a lot I get on the tops and when I’m on longer rides I switch from The hoods to the tops to the drops frequently. Great questions though and hopes this helps clarify.
@@johnmanuel7561 Enjoy your new bike. It is of superb quality and design!
1. I intentionally did not bring up the price difference. Yet the additional 2200$ bought additional 3mph at 100rpm, scraped off 4.1lbs in weight - negligible for a 200lbs rider - and all the bells and whistles of comfort Trek can offer (carbon frame, iso-speed, multiple position handlebar etc. ).
Actually Scott Metrix 30 or Merida speeder 200 ( 23.5lbs) have drive trains similar to that of your road bike at a price point lower than that of your trek FX 3 hybrid. This is what Zane Ullmann was referring.
At this price point, your road bike is no longer intended for an urban commuter. 3000$ bikes are rarely seen locked to a pole in the street.
2. You made a great choice. Never look back!
@@johnmanuel7561 46 MPH! Pretty darn good Manuel!!! Were you going downhill? I hit about 41 MPH on a down hill on my FX4 Sport Carbon (I have a 46 tooth chainring). To get my speed up, I need wind or hills - otherwise, I'm averaging about 14/15 MPH on my hybrid. Thanks for the video.
Thank you for sharing the progression in your thought and need of a specific bike but also reiterating that each bike quality is still good. I'm in the market now of determining between hybrid or straight road. I'm not sure i can justify the extra few hundred in road only. But you video is very helpful in figuring that out.
Hi, Just came across your videos on TH-cam....I appreciate all the different aspects you bring to cycling, The technical and subjective/emotional....I'd ride with you. Thanks for your good work.
Great analysis and review. I was on the fence about it FX 6 or a Domane. Thanks for helping me make up my mind.
Glad I was able to help Rob!!
I've gone full circle. Started with a Trek 1000 road bike, went to a Trek 8.3 Dual Sport, then a Cannondale Trail 5, then a Fuji Cross 3.0, now waiting on my Domane SL5. I still own all these bikes, the Dual Sport became an eBike. I'm a big believer in the correct number of bikes to own is N+1, where N is your current bike count. Ride on brother!
What’s up brother! Yea full circle for real! I can’t wait for you to get that SL5! At least you have options to hold you over until that SL5 comes in.
Loving that N + 1 factor.
What is your favorite one ?
Great video and has helped me decide which to buy next month
I really enjoy your channel.
Pretty informative.
Thank you 🙏
Adding to my collection of N + 1 bikes.
I currently use a Trek FX 2 Hybrid. Currently waiting for my Domane SL 5 Carbon to show up.
My reasons were similar to yours for the upgrade.
thanks for sharing. I was thinking of getting the FX Sport 6 or the Checkpoint.
All the reasons you mentioned of why you got back into biking this time around is exactly my experience. 👏
Thank you for the Video
I have FX3 and now moving to road bicycle as well. The same reason as you said FX3 is the great bike but we want more
Yes indeed! Welcome to the club.
Looks like Frederick, MD! Great video.... I'm pondering the exact same decision -
I’ve sticked on fold bikes/mtb since 2013. Then I got my Trek fuel ex8. This is the first time I felt the bike was joined with my body. The frame really makes a whole difference. This is a foundation of everything. I started to seek for more. I have my Domane. I believe I have a lot to discover. Riding is now again, full of joys.
You said it best with riding is again full of joy! That’s the best way to put it when you find a bike that suits your needs.
did you get tired of riding or are you still enjoying it like when you first got it?
I started on a hybrid (REI CTY) bicycle two years ago to get into better shape. I then started commuting to work on the bicycle which I still do over 90% of the time. I really enjoy commuting. Then a year and a half ago I decided to get a road bike as I really enjoy riding fast. I found a good deal on a Domane SL6. I commute on the Domane when the weather is nice but I usually use it for longer fun rides. I still ride the Hybrid 70% to 80% of the time. I'm currently looking for a gravel bike I can put fenders and a rack on to replace my commuter bike. Not sure what I will end up with especially with no bikes in inventory.
Something about those hybrids that just makes you want more and more. It’s cool that you still ride your hybrid to. And just like you said, the Domane excels when it comes to longer rides. Good find on the SL6!
Started with the FX 2 which was brutal on my ass. I get my new Trek Checkpoint SL5 tomorrow. So stoked.
I'm hoping I see a huge difference.
Oh yea! You will definitely feel a different and the Checkpoint offers a lot of versatility, especially going off road. Congrats on your new bike!!
Just got my sl5 5 days ago and I’m loving it! I would watch your videos because I wanted to get into road biking… now I’m waiting for my wheels….
Let’s go Randy!! That’s awesome! Congrats on the SL5!
Bought a Trek Dual Sport 2. A week later I sold it to a friend and bought a Domane AL 5 disc. I absolutely love the Domane.
I had wanted to get back into biking after a hiatus of several years. Prior to that I had ridden only road bikes all through college and for 20 years after that. I could not get used to the feel of a hybrid bike, my muscle memory begged for turned down handlebars, and changing gears was non-intuitive. Test drove the Domane at the Trek dealer and felt right at home so I bought the bike. Now I ride it on the road, on trails, on gravel, on dirt and find riding the bike very intuitive.
One of the things that convinced me to try the Domane was one of YOUR videos, and another thing was a good friend of mine, a serious rider, who had ridden a Dual Sport for several years and traded it for a Domane.
Congrats on the Domane and I’m pleased to hear I was able to assist you in your decision. That muscle memory plays a huge role in how something feels to us.
@@johnmanuel7561 . I like the look of the sleekness of the Domane but I prefer the flat bar. Love biking, keeps you young at 78yrs .
Hey John. Thanks for this! I am in the exact point of making a decision as you were in when you chose to switch over to a road bike. I’m replacing my 15-year-old specialized globe hybrid. Until a few days ago I’ve planned on purchasing the trek FX 6 sport. There’s one in stock at a Trek store about 80 miles away. They’re just waiting for brake parts to be delivered before it’s ready. I keep questioning my riding position’s aero efficiency and wondering if it’s really right for me. The reason I keep going back to the FX6 is that it comes with carbon wheels while still coming in several hundred dollars less than the road bikes that I’m researching. There’s also an element of availability. I’m wondering if changing up the handle bars on a fx6 could get me in a more aero position when I want that? I imagine there’s lots of options out there. Wishful thinking?
I'm on the same page right now, I'm selling my e-bike to switch to a road bike, so I feel you 100%. Thanks for sharing.
Sounds great Alessandro! Hope you enjoy it as much as I have!
Thanks I’m in the situation and this was well done
I just did the switch too. Switched for a Domane AL. I've picked up 3mph on my standard loop. The Domane is so much quicker and at least as comfortable. Wish now I had just bought it from the start.
Hi John, many thanks for your videos, I have watched many of your videos of your experiences on FX and Domane. Appreciate share your experiences of positions on those 2 bikes. is there huge difference in sitting position? Hybrid should be more upright, however is the difference huge given domane's more endurance geometry? what are your feelings after relatively longer ride say over 80miles on those 2 bikes? I have pre ordered Domane sl 5 especially thanks to ISOspeed, however can't forget FX sports 4. You know that I love Comfort😁
Thanks for sharing. Did you notice a big difference with your climbs?
Saludos, John! This was a very good presentation of your journey. I also started out with an FX (model 2) which is an entry level fitness/commuter bike with disc brakes which got me excited about cycling. I quickly found its limitations though. I ended up upgrading to the FX6 with carbon wheelset while my wife who is also an enthusiast went for an Emonda SL5 disc. The FX6 has some very good things going for it but single hand position like u stated is not one of them. My solution to that was the Ergon GP4 with bar end. That provides the relief of an extra position and aids climbing as well. So many options along the spectrum of speed and agility on one end and comfort/endurance at the other. Working on my power to weight ratio and conditioning. I'm looking to pick up a power meter soon to help with that.
Saludos Luis, I appreciate that! Nice touch with the ergon bars. The power meter will defiantly be a game changer in being able to see your fitness levels and help improve on it.
I have a hybrid (Cannondale Quick 1) and a road bike. The hybrid is good because I have knobbier tires on it so I use for gravel/dirt paths where I'm not that worried about speed. It's versatile and comfortable. Then the road bike is of course for more serious riding.
That’s not a bad combo at all. The more bikes you have, the more variances you can have in where you ride!
I have a hybrid bike but recentley bought a ridley fenix sla road bike and i am having some issues with the different geometry. How do you feel about the fact that you have a bigger "drop"? Does it affect your mobility in any way?
Loved it
Good video I have a 7.4 I'm considering adding a road bike And a pure gravel bike to my collection
I've got a specialized sirrus pro as my main bike for now until next year but iam not going to sell her.
I'm going to use my hybrid for going to the Walmart or work. It's pretty much gonna stay as my daily driver But if I wanna do along bike ride well that's when I take out my new one.
My first real good quality bike at the time (I had a lot of bikes from Walmart ,zellers and Canadiantire) was a Fuji hybrid
I understand completely the switch I have a Grey Fisher mountain bike. I switched it up and needed more speed. Now all my friends want to get a road bike like myself.
That’s funny! Once your friends saw you get one, they wanted one as well.
Hey John, thanks for the video. I've always been obssesed with Cannondale. I plan to get back into cycling after so many years. I basically need to go from point A to B, run errands and go to work. Thought about a Hybrid and the first to come to mind is the Cannondale Bad Boy 2, then I saw the Trek FX Sport 6 and liked it very much and is a pretty strong competitor BUT I've had mostly mountain bikes and just 2 road bikes in the past and sportbikes (motorbike) for over a decade and I am not sure if Hybrid would be a good choice or the road bike better. Bike now a days are completely diferent than what I used to ride. Your point on the gears really got me thinking ...
Saludos from Costa Rica
Hey Luis, so the FX 6 actually has the same gearing as the SL 5 models. So it would be more about positioning. Which alludes to performance. However, to run errands/ go to work, the FX sport 6 is all you need.
I started last year with. Cannondale trail 8 then upgraded to a Trek FX Carbon Sport 4. I really enjoy the comfort of the hybrid, but I now have the itch for a Domane SL5 or SL6. I was able to hit 50 miles with little training. Next goal is a 100 miles
Way to go Patrick, That’s amazing!! Keep knocking down those milestones!!
Same here. Started out on a Norco hybrid, went on and bought a Specialized Roubaix, which had rim brakes and thatI sold last year to get a Domane SL6. Now this one I will keep for a long time for sure. I just love it.
From Norco hybrid to SL6! Nice Jaque! Funny thinking back at us on our first bike compared to what we upgraded to. Thanks for sharing.
is braking huge difference between rim brakes and the hydraulic disc of SL6?
@@JitinMisra Hi Jitin, disc brakes definitely brake better under more severe conditions, like rain or mud, and I would say in general. Their efficiency is evident. They also permit riding with wider tires where the rim version is more limiting. Mind you, rim brakes are fine and certainly would do the job also. That being said, all the major bike manufacturers are now going for disc brakes and abandoning the rim version. To give you a better idea, I am sure that you can find here, on TH-cam, a disc vs rim brakes comparison. Take care.
@@JitinMisra Yes, Disc brakes have a more immediate breaking impact than rim brakes. Along with having a stronger braking capability in bad/wet conditions.
@@johnvandermause9218 Hi John, mine was the same year but an SL4 Sport. It was a good bike. The thing is, it was a 54cm and my SL6 is a 56cm and just fits me better. That being said, I am definitely more comfortable on the Domane and just as fast if not more so, not that it matters all that much to me anymore. That being said, the Domane is more versatile as mentioned by John Manuel and the disc brakes allow me to run wider tires. I went as far as riding with Schwalbe's G-One Speed in the 35cm with no problem. Now I don't know how your Comp compares to my SL4, but I think you will find that the Domane does just as well. Happy riding!
I am going to buy a FX3 and have the LBS upgrade the drive train to 50/34 Tiagra 11-36T cassette in about two weeks. I need an upright riding position.
My first bike is a Giant Excape hybrid which I still have. I thought I was fast as shit and told myself I would never get a road bike because I didn't need it. Then I went on a long ride up in Westchester in a bike path and I was struggling to go up an easy climb and was getting dropped by other riders lol. So I bought a used trek emonda ALR4 and it was such a big difference. I wanted more so I bought a Scott Addict a few months ago and I'm glad I made the switch to a road bike.
Nothing will make you upgrade faster than getting dropped on a ride! I’m sure that Scott Addict feels like a rocket compare to the original hybrid.
I've been riding a Marlin 5, since January. In hindsight I wish I had gotten a road bike as well. Hope to upgrade to something like a Domane when they become more available.
Marlin 5 is a nice bike but like you have figured out, it’s completely different riding style.
I'm in the same situation. I bought a hybrid bike in October and was looking to upgrade a month later. I've been looking a carbon hybrids (Sirrus 4.0, Trek FX Sport 6, Giant Fastroads) but now I'm debating if I should just switch to a drop bar endurance bike. I've been feeling I don't need a dropbar in NYC but now I'm unsure. Any recommendations?
The hybrids can go as fast so if you are looking for endurance bike, it would be for long endurance rides of 40-50 miles+. Otherwise you may benefit from the hybrid.
I think that is why many like myself have multiple bikes to accommodate different moods. My self have fitness, touring, and road bikes. I just got rid of MTB in recent month and got a Cannondale fitness bike. for those looking for bikes, wide selection of bikes are now available. my new fitness with 32c tires and 50/34 crank is fast enough for regular riding of 15-20 miles without dressing up like I have to do with road. my touring bike with 42c tires are perfect for C&O trails and occasional overnighter. did lot of road biking last year when everything was shutdown but I am not riding as much except for occasional group riding. if you really enjoy being "outside" you might want to pickup biking touring :-)
Great suggestion on the bike touring Johnny!
Hello, my first bike was a Trek Emonda ALR. I then went to a Domane SLR, and now ride a Emonda SLR Disc. My main reason was to go from aluminum to carbon, with better components.
Nice path Wesley! You have great taste in bikes! I’m sure that Emonda SLR feels amazing compared to the original ALR.
Carbon all the way indeed
Same journey here John. I bought a Specialized Roubaix this month and can't for the warm weather. Another enjoyable video! How do you like your GPS, and what brand/model is it?
Hopefully the bike arrival coincides with warmer weather. I love it. I’m going to do a video on it here soon. It’s a Wahoo elemnt bolt.
I added sqlab hight ends to my fx3 and I'm definitely staying with it. Roads, pavements no probs. Why do present switching to road bike as an upgrade??? I don't. I ride along road bikes and keep up easily. You just need high ends to ride it really fast.
Nice Mariusz. The FX3 is an amazing bike! I’m glad you are enjoying it. For me I’m talking about from a price standpoint without adding “high ends” that you mentioned and sticking with stock set up. Because a $3000 bike should be better than a $1000 bike if all things with a rider are equal.
Trek FX3 to Trek Domane AL5...similar paths but I didn't spring for the carbon :)
Hey Sumedh, That AL5 is a nice bike and a nice upgrade over the FX3. So many of us took the same route.
I started on a mountain bike F29 CANNONDALE FULL CARBON then a Giant Defy advance 2 now Up grade to a DOMANE SL6 all for the same reason you did the addiction is real
My nephew, who I ride with in lots of my videos, went a similar path from cannondale, to an older Fuji road bike to Defy advance 2. This path allows us to figure out if we like it and gradually grow as our interest(addiction) grows.
Great !
Given the problems you discussed, you would have been fine replacing the crankset and handlebars, and removing the spacers on the fork to be lower
That is also a possibility John. Thanks for sharing an alternative idea.
The Geometry doesn't always work... And then the problem with road shifters being different and very expensive. Overall, a costly affair
What goes around, comes around. At the age of 69, I find myself shopping for a hybrid bike to replace my Cannondale CAAD9 road bike. I need something more upright, with lower gearing, and with bigger tires nowadays. The FX 3 & 4 are top candidates, but the CAAD9 is so fast it is hard for me to pull the trigger and downgrade. My body is insisting, though.
Thanks for the excellent video. Enjoy that speedy road bike experience!
That’s so motivating that you are out there and being active at 69 years young. I like how you say what goes around comes around as we circle back to our beginnings. Thanks for taking the time to watch and keep on riding!
I ended up buying a Specialized Sirrus X 5.0. I'm very happy with it; it's superior to my old road bike in almost every way. Except: it feels less fast, and it isn't cool. I'm confident I can put those two superficial concerns behind me, soon. Soonish.
@@ichirofakename congrats Ichiro!!! Glad you got something that you enjoy! That’s the most important thing!
My first TWO bikes were Dept store hybrid bikes with totally different geometry. I didn't understand why they felt so different from each other, why I preferred one over the other, and why they were so challenging to ride more than for casual runs. With a little more education, I sold one and the other is my back-up that I probably will never ride again. It feels like a "kids" bike. My next bike was the Trek FX 3, which I am currently riding. It is a SIGNIFICANT upgrade, and I LOVE it. However, like you, I want a little more performance. I know more than half of the equation is me and my own fitness level (I am improving), but clearly a road bike would be helpful. You have sold me on the Domane. Since I will have to wait a while due to short supply anyway, I may as well do more research and get the best value for my budget. Currently I am trying to decide between the AL and SL. Thank you for the insight!
Lots of us share that same path. Where we don’t know much and realized that we want more than what the entry level provides us. The FX3 was amazing and loved it as it made me want more. Let me know when you get your a Domane.
@JohnManuel your video hooked me into deciding whether or not to get hybrid or road. @Karen your comment, along other comments, sold me on getting a road bike as my first bike instead of a hybrid bike. Initially, I talked to my local trek dealer and they recommended an fx5. But I mainly what to ride for fitness, distance and most importantly speed! I was told the hybrid wouldn’t be that much slower but judging from your video, it may be best to jump straight to a road bike.
@@johnnylong2049 glad to hear you are looking into it Johnny! The biggest difference is the geometry, sitting more upright, will catch more wind, especially at higher speed. On a road bike you get in the drops, to cut that down and allow you to go faster/maintain your speed longer.
I've spent the last 10+ years on a Trek 7100 (bottom-end hybrid). I road it hard initially till I had an accident on it in 2015 (lets just say I gave birth to my ankle!) and just recently started picking it back up. I've made some minor upgrades to it - trigger shifters, butterfly bars, etc - which have made a huge difference! For example, I can now ride 2hr/30mi or more with out my hands going painfully numb! Still, the crappy suspension and overall weight is holding me back (Bike + rack and bags is ~47lbs!). I've been looking at possible future upgrades and both the Domane AL 5 and FX 5/6 are on top. As I will be rounding 40 in a couple of years, I'm leaning more towards an FX6 with butterfly bars over the more aggressive Domane drops but still open to the idea!
I’m 71 years old and got back riding in 2020 after hip replacements. I’ve largely done it on my old 2008 Trek 7100 hybrid. Yes, suspension fork and heavy. Changed to Ergon grips with bar ends to help with hand positions and a better saddle. I’ve completed multiple metric century rides over the past 2 years, but want to upgrade. Considering Trek FX3 or 4 and Specialized Sirrus X4.0. I also have a 1998 GT Strike in good condition and 28mm tires for days when I’m feeling a bit more limber and want to ride a road bike.
I made the same transition. I went from a Trek FX Sport 6 to a Domane SL7 eTap and never looked back. My FX is reserved for buddies who don't have bikes and want to ride with me.
That SL7 eTap sounds nice! Also that’s pretty smart to keep the FX for friends.
@@johnmanuel7561 The TREK dealer touted the FX Sport 6 as a Domane with flat bars, but as you stated in your video, the flat bars do make a huge difference in getting more aero. I enjoy your videos. You and I have the same taste in bikes and riding styles.
Great minds think alike David! Haha. But yes the bars and positioning make a huge difference.
David, how quickly did you upgrade from the Hybrid?
Funny. My Madone with Ultegra has wires from Shimano computer to hoods. Can see exact rear sprocket and front chainring. Also Shimano rear derailleur indicator inline on cable loop in front of handlebar.
I started off on a Giant Escape hybrid just to commute to work and casually work out. I would see drop bar road bikes and tell myself that I’d probably never get one or be that serious. Fast forward I have a Domane SL6 and don’t see myself looking back.
It’s amazing when we start off saying, I don’t need something that serious until you start to fall in love with the sport and then you become serious and get that nice road bike. Thanks for sharing Alberto!
@@johnmanuel7561 The fx3 is ideal for me since i only ride around neighborhoods and 30-45 minutes at most, even then, i wish sometimes i had drop bar endurance bike.. My only cons of drop bar bikes is the wheelbase is small for riding around neighborhood and cutting through tight spaces at slower pace, especially if you are using flat pedals, there is toe overlap.
@@JitinMisra Hey Jitin. Yea that sounds like the FX3 is the perfect bike for you. I’m glad you are enjoying it and is serving you well as it is a really good bike.
I'm currently riding a FX3 XXL but want to get a road bike and looked at the SL6 but my local shop wants to do a guru fit since I'm super tall at 6'7"...might have to drop major $$$ on a custom build.
@@BluGiant14 hopefully it’s not too much. I was curious to see how many took the same path as me. And seems a lot of us went from hybrid to road.
He said to keep away from devices and has a device on his handle bar lol 😂
I bought the FX3 last year, and now I find myself in the same position. Split between the Domane SL5 or Specialized Roubaix Sport. I need a bit more money first though.
Test ride them if you can. Both really great bikes.
I’m riding an fx1 and looking to upgrade don’t know if it will be gravel or the domans I just completed a century on the fx1
Great job on the century Jason!!
Just went from the FX3 to Domane AL 4. Such a difference!
Welcome to the Domane family Todd! Congrats on the new bike.
The main thing that’s stopping me making the change is my back. I’ve had some trouble with it in the past and the upright seating position of the Hybrid bike minimise’s this IMO. That been said I currently have a Trek fx1 and seriously need to upgrade 🤣
Very valid concern. I love the fx series. That was my first love.
@@johnmanuel7561 to help not losing out I fit bull bars on the fx, they are a great addition. Really helps you dig in going uphill and get into a nice position while going downhill also
I agree totally.
I bought a Trek FX4 last summer and I rode it almost everyday throughout the year. I want to advance in cycling. Im planning on getting a Trek Domane in the future. I am not going to sell my FX4 though.
Not a bad move at all jrock. FX4 is a really nice bike. I would love to hear if you end up getting the Domane. Thanks for taking the time to watch.
I'm 5'8" 220 lbs do you think I'm to heavy for a road bike? I own the 2015 Trek 7.4 FX and I also own a 2013 Scott Foil 20 road bike but I felt the Trek 7.4 FX is more comfortable, I do go faster on the road bike though by a couple miles per hour on my usual rides. Thanks it's funny that we have a lot in common on choices of Bike types but I am having trouble getting comfortable on my road bike do you have any tips to make a road bike more comfortable for larger riders?
What’s up Charles, and you are definitely not to big for a road bike. Most are have a limit of 275 lbs. as far as being more comfortable, I would say invest on a good pair of bibs and then you just need to spend time in the saddle. Focus more on time and not distance and gradually increase it.
@@johnmanuel7561 Thanks man! I'll do that.
I also ride a Trek 7.4. It has been a great bike and I have logged 1000s of mikes on it.I just got a Giant Revolt to see what drop bars are all about. I like it a lot, but I will still be putting miles on the Trek. I'm keeping them both.
@@Chefmasterkaga I like that strategy a lot.
i had a giant escape 3, i felt the wider tyres and weight of the bike was a limiting factor. It was always in the back of my mind what if i could have a machine which was actually designed with speed as a priority in mind, as even with the hybrid i was occasionally chasing cars on 30mph roads and them being stuck at the lights i would just swift pass them but this was with me fully puffed out. I now haver a roadie, and pschycologically its satisfying atleast that the most limiting factor now for speed would be myself.
I’ve been riding my trek fx 2 for about 2 years, and this year was able to pick up a specialized allez base, as my first road bike. It’s a good bike don’t get me wrong, buuut it trades versatility for all out speed, and while I do like speed, I’m much more concerned with versatility and durability. I think my next bike will be an expensive hybrid, cause I just don’t go far enough for drop bars to make sense to me.
Excellent reasoning and I can totally see that how that expensive hybrid fits your needs better.
@@johnmanuel7561 and I thank you for understanding that I prefer hybrids, instead of pushing me into getting a more expensive road bike. I’ve had too many other veterans urge me into a road bike, and now I’ve got one that will sit in my garage for most of the year, while my hybrid will sea all season use!
That’s the thing about bikes. It’s not about which type of bike is better, it’s about which type of bike fits your needs better and most importantly, which bike will get you out and riding more. Be safe!
I fully get it. Purchased a Trek DS-4, totalled in accident 9 months later. I replaced it with FX-6, a carbon hybrid. I highly recommend this bike. It's comfortable and fast.
I've done 1000 miles last year on my trek DS2. It's time to upgrade.
Great job Jeffrey!! Make sure to let us know what you decide to upgrade to.
What kind of computer do you have
Is this Frederick? I’m planning to move there in July and I’ve been looking at the FX3 for commuting
I had a Cannondale CAAD Optimo but unfortunately sold it.
Yes this is Frederick. FX3 is a great bike for commuting.
I'm in the market for 1 .... 1st. of Nov. is when I'll try to purchase. All through this video... your riding on the hoods. I watch a lot of gravel bikers... riding together.... all are riding on the hoods.
In my youth... I also rode on the hoods.... except when I had a head wind... the drops made it a lot easier to cut through the wind. Seems if your on the hoods.... you have the same position as a flat bar. COST.... a Trek FX Sport 5 is 2100. Full carbon frame. except for flat bars. If I purchase a Domane... for that same cash... I do not get a carbon bike. I get a Alum. frame... but very light... and a 2x front chainring. Most of those the.... crank is a 50/34. More speed for downhills and tailwinds. I suppose it doesn't matter much with me.... I wanna get back into cycling... to try and make myself good and strong in the legs.. @ 71 years old.... it will most likely be just neighborhood rides. BUT I think I might come out ahead if I but the FX Sport 5 and then have it converted to drops. I'm not sure about how that would turn out for me.... I may even go the other way and get some Jones Bars.. so I'm up even higher in the wind. LOL good video !
Exactly where I am. Getting a domane sl6
I have a 2022 checkpoint alr5 and HATE it I have 2023 FX sport 6 and LOVE IT!!!!
Why do you prefer the fx more ?
I got Domane, its great, thinking about buying Dual Sport to use it on mountains and as a commuter. But my dream is to get 920. Expensive and imposible to buy in my country.
Not a bad way to go at all Andre.
My biggest concern is if my back can handle it. I haven't ridden in years.
Valid concern! The FX3 may be the right bike for you.
I am at the same point. I have outgrown my hybrid bike faster than I thought. Unfortunately my Doname doesn't arrive till Mid December.
Fingers crossed you get some good new before December that it’s coming sooner.
Hi John! Very interesting video as I a currently ride a TREK Dual Sport 3 VTC, coming from a 2007 TREK VTT, but already thinking to upgrade to a road bike... So, the DS3 is a lot faster/smoother ride than my old bike and I am very happy with that, but I must come to the conclusion that I ride almost 100% of my time on roads... so that the DS3 (starting with its weight and geometry) appears not to be the best solution for my use. I am consequently thinking about keeping the DS3 for family/leisure/easy trail rides, while acquiring a road bike to satisfy my new addiction. Now, I am looking for Domane also (AL4 or 5 versions) but I am a bit sceptical about its weight (+10kg...)... My budget would lead me to other bikes around 8.5-9.0kg so I am hesitating to go further with TREK Domane or with another manufacturer... As I saw your videos, the weight of your Domane SL (also around 10kg) does not seems to be a real issue? Would you say that your upgrade from the FX (already lighter than the DS3 due to the carbon fork and tires) to your Domane was a night/day difference to enjoy the road? And did you had the opportunity to compare with other (and lighter?) road bikes? THX and salutations from Belgium!
Hello Greg, great questions. One of the reason the Domane is heavier is due to the ISOSpeed system in the bike. This system supports the front and the rear (seat) of the bike by adding cushioning that will reduce rider fatigue and allow you to go faster. Along with the aero elements the bike has, this allows the bike to go faster. I do feel its night and day due to the different riding styles and you are able to go faster, just by the geometry of the bike.
If you are looking to do distance or long hours on the bike the Domane is for you (or a similar bike like the Defy or Roubaix). If you just want pour speed and ride in a more uncomfortable position to achieve it and don’t have current back, neck or shoulder issues and are more of a flexible person, look at the Madone (which is more expensive). Just want to climb lots of hills, at the cost of comfort and and a bit of (flat riding speed), than look at the Emonda. Hope this helps.
@@johnmanuel7561 I guess comfort would be the key word in order to ride long distances without suffering too much pain issues. But as you do a comparison with the Defy or Roubaix, which are both endurance bikes too, they are slightly lighter too... In the case I would go for the Domane, I would not want to have the feeling of having chosen the slowest one, and remaining curious about other models after having made my choice. Which other models did you consider before going for the Domane? And what did finally seal your choice? Have a nice day!
@@johnmanuel7561 In the meantime, I saw your 9 months review video and it does answer to some of my questions. Looks great to ride in Dominican Republic! Domane stays in my wishlist! Stay safe and enjoy your rides!
Sorry I mean to say above the ISOSPEED allows you to go further. I did look at the Roubaix and they are very similar. There’s some proposed “engineering”, gimmick or not that claims the bike remains fast with the added weight. What sealed the deal for me was when I test rode the bikes. I honestly thought I was going to like the Roubaix better, more so because my shop had a matte black version available. However, when I rode the Domane, it just “felt better” to me and they were pretty much identical, to me in regards to performance.
It was amazing! Especially since it was cold back home. Stay safe!
Its crazy cuz i have a FX4 Sport with a carbon body. Now im interested in the Domane +LT
That’s what happens, it draws you in and makes you want more. Great problem to have!
@@johnmanuel7561 but it's electric🥺 in a road bodyyyy
@@Enzo575 whatever gets you out there! There is no judgements here. Assisted pedaling is better than sitting on a couch! You have my full support on that!
I need to go the other way, unfortunelty. Started to develop nagging low back pain after my rides that last for days on the Domane, even when making it as upright as possible but on my old Hybird it isn't an issue. Looking into selling my Domane for a high end Hybrid now. Perhaps a Cannondale Quick 1 or Trek FX Sport 5
Ohh Thanks for sharing, I also suffer from lower back pain. I am currently riding my hybrid and was curious about a road bike. but could be a costly mistake.
Glad I’m not alone. I have three herniated discs on my lower back. I got a 2023 Trek FX3 with the Carbon fork but I decided to exchange it for the 2023 FX4 Sport since it’s all carbon frame but when I realized they both had Deore I placed an order on a 2023 Trek FX Sport 5 in Red Carbon Smoke 🔥. Looking forward to her arriving. Did you also end up getting the FX Sport 5?
I’m on an fx1 and I top out around 27mph where I am practically a parachute. I’m going to add a better gearset and drop bars. I have about 600 miles on this bike, I’m really attached and won’t sell it. If I see myself riding it long distances, maybe I’ll spring for a good canyondale.
Also, it’s my first bike.
Interesting. I got a 2023 FX3 a few days ago with the Carbon fork for $1049. I did like it but felt very rough in sidewalks here in Chicago. So I went back to the Trek dealer to exchange for a 2023 FX4 Sport full carbon bike. But then I noticed it had the same Deore Shimano parts so I splurged and ordered a 2023 FX Sport 5 with the upgraded Shimano in Red Carbon Smoke. Looking forward to her !!
@@gustavogo2915 why not but something like an emonda or a domane, those are lighter.
Also, when you say rough, how exactly do you mean?
I initially ordered the Dual Sport 5. But then I kept looking at other bikes and wanted more speed. I couldn't afford a Malone so I went with the Domane 5. Canceled the Dual Sport order.
Nice upgrade to the Domane and glad you were still able to cancel your order.
I wanted a Trek Domane but the Dealership said the bike would not come in until 2022! I have too many hobbies and springing for a Carbon Road bike is too expensive. I have a Trek Mountain bike, and now I have a Specialized Diverge Elite.
The wait times have become outrageous on some of these bikes. I agree with you, that if you have other hobbies and interest, I would not go above what I wanted to spend. Glad to hear that you do have some alternatives that will allow you to get out and enjoy being outdoors.
I am wondering how you add the Speed information in your video.
I use this app called Garmin Virb Edit on my Mac.
@@johnmanuel7561 Thanks much.
You must have some smooth roads out there, in England riding a road bike on a normal road is a death sentence 😆
Its NOT just the aero. You also 4 Lbs lighter and got the 105 groupset.
Great points Jason!
I have FX2 now waiting on Domane sl5
Nice! So many people have taken a similar path. Congrats on the SL5!!
just pick it up had to drive 2hrs, I also got insurance on it from watch your last video.
Look cool 🤣😂😅
😂 it’s all part of the game. 😆
Hybrid bikes have a place. If I were commuting in a city, a hybrid would be my go-to. Wide tires, racks, an upright position? That's great in traffic, on the way to work. But if I am packing on miles, I want a drop bar. A Domane is a great bike. Enjoy.
Well said Peter!
Dudee the road is awesome for biker i hope all road like that your county
Now they are doing 1x gearing up front. Too easy to spin out with only 40T. So going for a road bike is the best bet for any kind of speed.
40t! Sh1t I'm on a 30t mountain bike and it's not THAT slow 😆
Damn speed racer! 30 mph is not fast enough for you on a bike 😱😱😱
Always room for more! 😂
Hybrid bike is much easier on my back and that is why I just bought a trek FX 3. I will try and sell my carbon Trek Madone for this reason. I am more distance not speed.
Great bike...but please describe in functionality, , "coolness" is subjective...
sell the domane & get the speed concept!
Domane is over a band too much
Oh my goodness. What a waste of time to watch. This dude thinks road bikes look cooler and they are faster. Um duh..except for the subjective cool ruling but he did point out the cool factor is subjective at least... thanks