Carbide Blades! My initial thoughts…
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I would think Woodmizer should be supplying these blades for free. You have their machine, front and center, on a ton of videos.
Great job Em.
Yeah! Woodmizer needs to step up with some sponsorships!!!
@@eviltomthaiWoodmizer needs to hire them to make, or to take part in promotional company videos. They should be Woodmizer’s faces.
At very beginning of video she mentioned a huge thank you to Wood-Mizer for sending her carbide blades to try out. That sounds kinda free to me. Maybe Wood-Mizer supports them more than we know? However, how would their opinions be if they were getting everything totally free? Whatever the case, I really enjoy watching and appreciate the hard work they do to send us great videos. 👍
@@bobblenuts I reckon the BBQ the Boss is using lately was sold to him for a very good price. Take that as you like. It’s the advantage of having a successful channel which we both enjoy watching, God only know why as I have absolutely nothing to do with lumber and never will. Mind you, in my youth I used to buy Playboy just to read the articles
You should be pleased with the life. These are typically made with a C2 grade of carbide. Has great wear characteristics and can handle some rough use. Tungsten carbide can be very brittle in some situations, but should be great in your type of work. The occasional nail will not hurt it. You should also be able to send back for re-tipping as long as the steel wasn't damaged. Spend most of my life in the carbide business. Made thousands of drills, reamers, milling cutters and inserts. Carbide tipped saw blades are one of the most economical uses there is. Enjoy using it!
The only downside is the blades start cracking way before carbide is utilized..
Great spokeswoman for the family and every brand stepping up to be a part of the story.
Carbide blades on my small saws cut like butter and last forever--love them, and that's all i ever use !!!!
Oh I wish I had a stick of 2x4 by 10 hickory. Nice straight grain for some handles.
I use only carbide drill bits and will not use anything else so i figure the blades will be super tough. There wont be any sharpening a second time without equipment for it. Fantastic video saleswoman of the year and videographer of the year. Thank you ladies happy sawing.👍♥️♥️
What an honest review...so refreshing...almost didn't think this was a woodworking video and the host got a free item and raved and raved and raved...keep um' coming Em and Jade...the Internet needs more product reviews such as this...
I’ve taught Industrial Arts, wood shop for 42 years. When I was in college 1974 and beautiful student flipped her long hair.
She was operating an Oliver 30” wood surfacer. Her hair and the wood were pulled towards the spinning cutter head. Her head was slammed into the exterior cast metal frame. She 🙏👼🏻survived. She lost a lots of her hair and blood. She also had a concussion with traumatic brain injury.
Please secure your beautiful red hair. 🙏
Sounds like the teacher should have provided a better safety briefing!
@@eviltomthai it was 1974 ,there was no OSHA then and employers did not care if you got hurt .
@@davidkettell6236 - I was in shop in 1972 and we got road pretty hard about safety around the power tools...
Where I worked, long hair had to be secured for safety reasons. Also any loose sashes, laces or ties had to be tucked in.
@@Snarkapotamus i agree with safety everywhere ,i was just saying that most employers at that time did not take it too seriously ,i know that G.M. did not when i started there in 1980.
Appears to cut like butter.. awesome blade for the job
Crikey that blade is super quick going through those logs 🪵
Great job Girls
Good ol hickory , lot of old tobacco barns are loaded with 2x4 hickory, stand on them loaded with tobacco and they won't break, matter of fact i don't remember one ever breaking. Only let city people drive a nail in seasoned hickory tho (we know better, ha).
Oh, nice blade and explaining it so well.
Looks like it was zipping through the logs. Hopefully you can get a days' worth of use out of each one. Thanks for videoing and sharing with us ladies, have a great evening! TTFN
Pleasure to see you girls out working in the summer.
Just a tip from a guys who dealt with 1000s of carbide round saws. You might want to put the saw on the mill before you pull the protective cover off the teeth. While they are very hard and sharp they do tend to be very brittle and will shatter if banged on steel or allowed to rub against the other teeth.
I just finished cutting my 100th log (60% eastern white pine, and 40% maple and oak) on my first carbide blade of a three pack I bought from woodmizer. I’m using a piece of crap harbor freight mill with a 7-8hp motor, and the blade still cuts like new. It is amazing. The finish of the cut is far superior to the steel blades, and I still don’t get the wavy cut boards I got with the steel blades. I couldn’t be happier. I think I paid $300 for the set of three blades. Worth every penny in cut quality, and not having to mess around with blades all the time. All I do is clean the wood chips off the rubber on the wheels, and keep the blade dry so it won’t rust.
Emerald, watching your videos is kinda satisfying; I'm not going to lie either. So I thought I had 10 cord of hardwood logs, but it appears my contract was for 25! All I need is a log picker, a log hauler, 180 miles worth of diesel each way and someone who knows how to drive a big rig and is willing to make a trip to your yard. It might be impractical but I am looking into it. I have 3 active foresters and a fourth is retired. Your videos are a great addition to those working in the industry; who just don't have the time, patience or inclination to explain things the way you do.
Indeed. I’m not going to lie. This edutainment is very satisfying. Your lumber yard deserves the best.
Hello all, enjoyed the video I bought 2 of the Carbide blades last year but have not tried them out yet, Have a log of walnut at a friend house but haven't got it moved yet that is what the blades were for, maybe this summer will get to it. Yours looks like it cuts really fast and smooth.
Stay safe Jla
The new blade cuts like butter!
Yep you definitely need a good blade for hickory watching big sister and little sister put the blade on you guys are so cute 😉🐝
The push for carbide blades came after the eruption of Mt. St. Helen. All the timber knocked down was soaked with volcanic dust ( pumice) and it dulled blades very fast. Of course there have been carbide tips for rotary mills for years.
I've been running Lennox Tri-Master blades for a couple of decades on an upright saw in my shop, they provide excellent cut quality and exceptionally long life.
I use the Lenox BI-Metal Blades on my bandsaw, and they hold up a long time. Very impressed with Lennox Steel.
@@KarasCyborg The Tri-Master is a carbide tipped blade from Lennox. I wouldn't suggest running one on wheels smaller than 20" or so.
While I don’t have a mill like you guys, I have used carbide circular saw blades forever it seems. They are pricey but they far outlast regular “throw away” blades. You pay more up front but you save in the long run.
Of course hunny I always enjoy watching you at work I really appreciate country gals
We did not get to see Jade open up the blade.
We only use carbide tipped circular blades in the Wood Shop on the table saw, radial arm saw and compound miter (chop) saw. However, we clean the gunk off those blades with solvent relatively frequently. I don't imagine your blades can be cleaned.
Pinesol in the saw water will keep the pitch buildup away
Good job emerald.
You are such a delight. Incredible young lady. Very pro!👏
Dang, that is so easy to put on a blade! Thanks for showing that. 👍
Their a little more spendy but I've found I can usually get 1200 to 1400 bd ft off a blade.. I use them when I get into fence line areas especially or if someone hauls in a yard log. They will slice thru nails and lag bolts and keep going usually.. enjoy them.
If your blade guide is messed upped that and any saw blade will wear out faster.
Cool video. I was going to buy a carbide chain for my saw. I knew how to sharpen from working on a power line clearing crew. But I was cutting some firewood from logs skidded out to my brothers pasture when they logged his property. Skidding can make logs extremely muddy - in spring or fall. My local fire department used carbide saw chains for fire fighting. But they said there were brittle and would sometimes break a tooth if you hit something - rock or metal object. So I got some 'diamond' chain. it is just steel teeth with diamond dust impregnated in them. A little harder to sharpen but they did work better, in extremely dirty oak logs, than normal chain - old chipper chain was better in dirt than chisel chain. Carbide is a wonderful addition to the logging industry - witness this video.
Save the slabs for hatchet & hammer handles.. Great job girls.
I love how Emerald says "yard." Cool accent.
A different grinding stone is used for sharpening carbide tools then is used for tools made of high speed or cobalt.
Enjoying your latest content. You’re doing well. Can’t wait to learn more.
Keep your blade as cool as you can for extended life. Found once the blade overheats the carbide tips start to disappear then they want to snag rather than cut.
TC Sawmills tested and got some really nice boardfootage out of carbide. I've heard the same about Sandvik/Bahco carbide blades. The same thing regarding carbide tipped chain on firewood processors...
I glad I found your channel thanks Boss man and family ❤
my only experience with hickory was a few years back I use to hang cabinets for a company any way I got to the job and unboxed them I noticed I couldn't move them about as easily as usual any I went thru 3 3/16 bits where one drill bit will normally do three jobs. I would also say they were about a third heavier. Was not a fun job but they will wear like iron. Also it is a nice looking wood with a tight grain
Carbide can damage itself (chip) by banging around. Why the cutters are protected in shipment. Hickory is my favorite for making stuff cabinets etc. Stringy tough wood but makes beautiful stuff.
Carbide is a very hard material. It is not tough. There is a difference. Carbide is only slightly softer than diamond. It is used to cut all kinds of metal. It will hold up well as long as you don’t pound on it. Think about it this way, you shape diamonds by chipping them. Carbide will chip easily if impacted. Carbide also has high red hardness. You can have red hot metal chips flowing off of a carbide cutter for hours on end with little wear. Your blade will easily handle a speed of 10,000 surface feet per minute with little wear. You have to keep the band cool so it will not stretch and crack. The teeth will be fine cutting at that speed. You should see significantly longer blade life. You will need a diamond grinding wheel to sharpen the blade. Woodmizer sells those as well. Cook’s should have diamond wheels to fit your sharpener. Take time to talk to someone that specializes in selling carbide cutters. They can help you understand the metallurgy. Talk to them about bimetal blades with high speed steel tips. They are not as hard as carbide, they do accept shock much better than carbide. I will watch with great interest while you discover the longevity of blade life.
You may find that the Carbide blades will cut nails as well as Hickory. Another You Tuber Matthew Cremona says he will never go back to regular blades after using carbide. He has the giant home built band saw.
Your intro music scene is high resolution now, nice! 4:23 is a nice edit/transition!
I was hoping you would show the technique of unfolding and folding band saw blades. It might be interesting to watch, especially if it doesn’t fold right the first try.
I was also hoping you would show us how you unfold the bandsaw blade. That is a good idea for another video. Show how to fold and unfold the blades. You might want to wear gloves for that one.
Something to ponder. In the shop I worked at, they used a variable pitch bandsaw blade for a lot of things. We cut 1/2 insh and heavier steel with them, with very little issues. They might be good on something like that walnut that had metal in it. Slower feed rate than what is normally used, but might be good.
The blade you used to cut metal was a C5 carbide. A different metalergic makeup. For wood you'll see Steelite and C2 carbide used for the cutting surfaces. Sometimes C2 is also used for soft metals. It is not so brittle.
You'll really notice the increase in life when you get back on pine . Carbide toothed blades are a bit of an investment. But remember the down time of blade changing, the increase in precision cuts , (this means your customers will be happier) are all the reasons to go carbide , just make sure your guides are not hitting the teeth anywhere.
I wish I lived closer to you guys, those boards look really good for making frames but it’s a long trip from NC.
You're going to like the carbides, I'm line operator at the factory I work at, in other words, I set and run all the saws and equipment on the line. I use band saws and giant circular saws in which I run some carbides. What I find with the carbides is they make more dust but they'll cut through just about anything and they'll cut a straighter line, albeit, a little bit thicker of a cut.
Another fun one o watch.
Wow that's what I call a dream team! My sissy but would have put gloves on for that played y'all are beasts
The blades can be resharpen. May have send them back to the supplier. They will cut thru nails. We had a band saw with metal cutting blades with carbide tips.
Did Woodmizer contact you and say we'd like you to try this out or did you contact them and say why don't you send us this to try it out?
Either way it's cool that they gave it to you. It's just cooler if they reached out to you.
The advantage of carbide blades is long life, which can more than justify the higher cost. But, if you ruin the blade by hitting a nail or something, that eliminates the long life benefit.
Emerald: "Oh that's kinda satisfying actually, I'm not going to lie" lmao I'm getting the feeling someone's going to end up addicted to carbide.
An diamond coated stone in a dremel will sharpen the carbide blade, very nice ring Miss Emerald, seemed you cut Miss Jade as much as possible from the video. Good job. I thank you for bringing us along.
Wonderful !
Fabulous camera work !!!
The carbide blade looks new ..the cut looks smooth dear 😊
it would be nice if they were all carbide tipped.. its like a circular saw blade you don't see many of them that aren't carbide tipped anymore even if its just a tiny chunk of carbide you can't really resharpen. That blade can be resharpened but I don't know the tool they use or if its different than what you have.. Its a really hard choice.. do you run it through wood you know has metal in it because it will cut the metal but then you risk the blade being damaged and its more expensive.. $70 isn't bad I was seeing them for $200 for your size mill when i took a look.. Its good to try your options and see whats the most cost effective.. you cut a lot of logs.. if you were a home user then all carbide might be worth it because you don't run it much .. there are a lot of different considerations I guess but I am glad you got one to try.. like always .. catch you next time.
Good job awesome camera work Have a super day everyone ❤👍😉☕️?
Silica content within the wood is a big issue, probably more so that the wood hardness. WR Cedar presents issues that way.
The recommendation I would note! Is to use the de-barker. Dirt isn't a friend on carbon points.
That would have been my comment too. The hickory bark itself it tough and it sometimes contains dirt and rocks. Removing the bark can extend the life of the blade more than anything else they can do. Carbide is tough to sharpen too.
4:33 It looks to me like the de-barker is running above the blade.
@Ross Smith I noticed that, too! I've been a machinist for over 30 years. Just a comment to warn others. These young ladies know their business, and she most likely already acknowledged this. Just forgotten to pass this information, for she accomplished so much important information in her explaining the unique process of using carbon tipped blades. She's only human.
"Em" Please wear your Eye Protection, God only gave us all Two👀Eyes, Protect them Baby 💙Blues.
best videos on youtube. Keep up the good work ladies.
Very good Video ❤
Sharpening with diamond grinder 5will allow you to reuse them and get more life yet still
You got new blades
I didn't know that there were carbide-tipped band saw blades. I've never seen them here in Italy.
SAVE the plastic protector, if you need to take the blade off and swap it temporarily, you can slip that back over the edge to give it some insurance against drops or hits from other objects.
Be gentle with those blade protectors, if they are anything like the ones for big saws, after you sharpen a saw, you can put them back on, keeps your carbide from getting damaged.
Best part of that saw is, the carbide teeth can be replaced.
The crucial issue is lumber value / blade cost. I'd expect that carbide will outperform other blades.
Mass produced by technology and efficient manufacturing will make the carbide blade the milling standard. Carbide blades will eventually become the millers norm and first choice.
my re saw band is $ 200 148 teeth carbide is nice.
Good one today 🎉 , looks like Jade got her vest on backwards 😅
The cost per cut of the same would type would be interesting to see Carbide vs. Steel blades. Add on the cost of a re-sharpening job and see if that makes it more cost effective. Easy enough to change out blades, eh?
Excellent camera work, Jade! Is that a diesel engine? What is required for annual maintenance (all maintenance items over a year)?
Emerald, did I just see you swipe left with the carbide blad at the top of the video. Nice transition.
Good work LCLY Girls! Interesting facts on the blade. Your both looking slim, trim and fit. Pretty soon the Bossman will be feeding ya both with yummies from the BBQ pit! Send leftovers my way! 👍👍👍👍😀😀
Iv'e seen diamond tipped circular saw blades on the market from Felder for their sliding table saws. I wonder if anyone's ever done diamond teeth on a bandsaw blade.
Oh yeah! Annother vvvideo!! 😹😹😹👍
Thanks so much and yes it will last longer for sure
Well I "saw it" here first
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That's the truth.
Like the idea of you trying it first...
🇨🇦😉👍
Love to hear how much longer the carbide blade will run…..
Y'all are awesome.
Jade, great job with the camera. ..
Well the blade will last allot longer than a day of milling at your rates. Full milling time should be three days if not more. Lets see a image of the blade and see what happens. SHORT of hitting metal.. carbine tips will not get past metal in the wood. However a fine tooth blade metal style blade will but very slow going through a log mind you. It can be done however really slow process and soapy water is needed for lubrication if you even try it.
Emerald, if you remain pleased with the carbide blade, do you intend to leave it on the saw all the time or only put it on when you are cutting more dense woods.
They will stay sharper longer but are more difficult to sharpen. At least thats what chainsaw carbide teeth are like.
Very impressive.
Wish you had shown how you uncoil a blade that size. With my regular bandsaw blades I toss them on the ground a distance from me. Would not want to do that with carbide since it can chip pretty easily on impact.
Channel sponsor and start doing the woodworking shows as a spokesperson for Woodmizer (or another blade manufacturer). I could see that happening.
I hope you guys are keeping at least some of the off cuts of that Hickory to use in smoking and grilling.
The carbide tipped blades that I use are so sharp that I try to mount them first and then remove the edge cover.
Think that would work better, Carbide tips can shatter if they strikes something hard sometimes
@@johnaddis1022 I have heard that, but mostly to protect my hands. I have even switched to using carbide tipped drill bits on wood.
I don't know if you or youtube place the thumbs up/thumbs down along with the share icon on the left side? As someone that uses the share icon a lot I prefer it to be on the right side.
With the thumbs placed on the left, I no longer bother with using it.
Interesting video.And thanks. As an observer you should tie up that hair and wear protective long sleeves. The machine your working on is not a Nerf Toy, Stay safe
I think Emerald knows what she's doing
Awesome, I want to know what the life span on that blade is before getting resharpened and what kinds of issues with resharpening it may have if any.
It is a more expensive blade because the carbide bits are brazed on one by one.
best blades on youtube.
I’m thinking you guys may end up with a dumping of lake effect snow this week.
Do you send the Carbide tipped blades back to replace any missing tips and resharpen?
Thank You.....all