Cruella isn't old, she's emaciated. Which makes sense considering her perfectionist attitude towards appearance and fashion. Bear in mind that as Roger stated, she and Anita were in school together. Therefore Cruella can't be more than a few years older than Anita, but they are most likely the same age.
Reminds me off those posters at my school with very ugly people smoking that said "smoking is beautiful" Crulella smokes like a freight train. She also probably had a few botched plastic surgeries.
Also her hair was chosen to be black and white because of the book. Disney bought the rights to a children's book, and Cruella had black and white hair in it. It'd be an insult to scrap that design feature.
Honestly, considering the time period in which the movie takes place, it could’ve been cocaine or meth. People did (and still do) a lot of messed up things to fit into high fashion.
@@teddypeople6933 me neither until I saw it at a Blockbuster or Hollywood Video when I was young. I loved that movie so much. My parents must have bought a copy for me because I remember owning the VHS after a while 💜❤️♥️ the art isn't as good (common with many Disney sequels) but the story captured me when I was a little kid. It's been so long I don't even remember what happens lol
@@RedRoseSeptember22 Drag queens usually prefer to go by She when in drag and being referred to by their drag persona, however from what I've read Divine usually did go by He. He went by the stage name of Divine whether in or out of drag and identified as a gay man, and from what I've read it seems like most people close to him always used He.
One you left out was Gaston! While I've never seen early art of what his character was supposed to look like, I've read descriptions. He was originally designed as a scruffy, older outdoorsman with a giant mustache, (which makes me imagine him as a more old-timey version of Amos Slade from "The Fox and the Hound") only later being adapted into the arrogant, muscular hunk he ultimately ended up as. What stayed consistent were his profession as a hunter and his determination to woo Belle and "kill the Beast".
I actually looked it up and he looks more like he was originally meant to look like an old 1770's man with a white wig, like some of our early colonial
@RedRoseSeptember22 no, Gaston's look was modeled after the character of Avenant from Jean Cocteau's La Belle et La Bête, except maybe they were influenced by Superman in that the character has black hair whereas Avenant had light colored hair. Disney did this a lot: stealing characters from old films. For example, Aladdin was taken from Thief of Bagdad (both the 1920s version and 1940s version) and from The Thief and The Cobbler. And Snow White was taken pretty much entirely from a Betty Boop cartoon
@@wha9962Fun fact : Natwick ,the guy who came up with Snow White's final design ,had initially worked for Fleischer Studios where he designed and animated Betty Boop. Walt Disney considered Natwick an expert on animating women and, knowing he would need him to make Snow White look pretty and believable, Disney recruited Natwick to his studio in 1935.
This reminds me that Sora from Kingdom Hearts was going to have even spiker hair and a lion's tail. he almost looked like Goku from the original Dragon Ball. makes me wonder what would have happened if that was kept?
Fun fact Ariel wasn’t always destined to be a redhead! There was a push to make her blonde from execs because they wanted her to resemble Daryl Hannah in Splash, which had recently been a big hit. There is concept art of blonde Ariel, but the animators went with her now iconic bright red hair for a few reasons. One was that they, in some clashing with execs, didn’t want her to look like other popular mermaids in order for her, and by extension the movie, to stand out. The others were the decision that red hair would look better than blonde when shaded for darker lit scenes, and they realized they could use complimentary colors by combining red hair with a green tail to create an instantly iconic character design, and boy did they!
The point is, it's sad that the foremost details most looked at for female characters are always their g00damn looks. How about brains, personality, strength and flaws etc.
I get being frustrated about beauty standards, but that isn’t really what’s going on in this case. Getting down a good, distinct character design is essential in animation, regardless of the character’s gender. The color palette is a huge part of what makes a memorable design. A good example of this for a male character is Roger Rabbit, where the animators gave him a red, white & blue palette (white fur, red pants, blue bow tie) because the combination would already look aesthetically appealing to audiences because of American iconography.
As a historical fashion buff I feel the need to point out that Pocahontas is put into Victorian undergarments (1840-89ish) when she was alive in the 1600's (they had a different skirt shape and the torso would look straight but thin ). Historical fashionistas were masters of disguise and that's why they look like they have tiny waists. (It's why the live action Cinderella looked like she had a tiny waist) although young ladies of high status did tend to over-cinch their corsets to try to get a man (but they didn't really have any other good options at the time either.) It's where the term "she let herself go" comes from. Because by then they no longer cared to catch a man and were more concerned with their kids and comfort than what a man who was apt to beat her or cheat on her had to say.
Pocahontas was also 11 when she met John Smith. She was kidnapped, married to an older man John Rolfe, and died without ever seeing her people again. It's why I won't let my kids watch it.. I feel like it's really disrespectful to her tragic life story. Imagine if they did that to Anne Frank. Had her aged up to an adult and fall in love with a Nazi. There would be an absolute uproar. But because she's a Native American girl, no one cares.. My point being, I don't put it past Disney to mess up costume accuracy, look at Jasmine in the cartoon Aladdin.
Yeah, isn't it amazing how Disney always uses Victorian corsets even in the wrong century? In POTC they "tight-laced" Lizzie Swan into her corset, even though tightlacing wasn't even a thing at the time. Those 17th-century corsets were stiff and uncomfortable, but definitely not too tight to breathe. But hey, any metaphor to bring across an age-old overused clichee: the "modern girl caught in a historic setting"...
Fun fact on that live action Cinderella - since I heard it a bunch in a women's study class: That's actually the actress's [or was if it's changed in all these years] body size. And she was so upset with everyone who blamed Disney for "digitally shrinking her waist to an unrealistic size" when that was, in fact, her actual waist.
I think it’s because she doesn’t have these exaggerated curves other disney princesses do. In the early designs she is thinner, but she does not have an hourglass figure.
You are correct. I actually remember seeing something that Disney put out that said she was meant to be a blonde. I’m also wondering if the “original” drawing was from Disney, or if it was from the book of the actual tale that was the inspiration. People forget, there is a much darker original tale from the base books. Like, Cinderella’s step sisters where said to have actually cut off their toes to fit into the slipper.
And it's more likely that Hans Christian Andersen imagined her to have dark hair like himself, as she was a self insert character. He never actually specified a hair colour, though, so it's up to the reader to decide.
As a person that enjoys discovering the design process of animation and more it's not shocking for 1 character alone and even the story itself to eventually have 50 different versions before the final. Always enjoy seeing the journey and what inspired the changes plus the many directions taken. Some designs I like but can understand after discovery why changes happened and some I wish still remained or at least grabbed my wonder of "What If".
fun fact: the guy who designed the characters for hercules was gerald scarfe, a political cartoonist who also animated pink floyd: the wall. you can really tell when you see hercules' concept art
Personally i liked how Disney made them look and I'm happy with the way they turned out even though it might not have been they should've looked like I still love how Disney made them look
Beast in beauty and the beast is just a furry who took off his suit in the end xD Edit: OG snow white wasn't 14. She was 7. The queen tried to kill her 3 times. First by lacing her bodice too tightly, second time with a poisoned comb and lastly with the apple. But because of the last two times, she didn't trust the apple (it was half red, half white. red was the poisoned side) so the queen cut it in half and ate the white side to prove it wasn't poisoned. Once "dead", she laid in that glass coffin for "a long, long time" until a prince stumbled across the dwarf house and saw the coffin, wanted it for himself and begged the dwarves to have it (i know, creepy guy wanted a dead girl). The dwarves dropped the bloody coffin which dislodged the apple and woke her up. So snow white, woke up years later, with the mind of a 7 year old, to become the wife to a prince she had never met before xD Old stories are wacky as shit.
Little Mermaid die-hard fan here, still I think some of the concept art for Ursula (especially Glen Keane's) look more interesting than the final version.
I think with a lot of the older princesses the reason their waists were so thin was because they wore corsets :) it was a big fashion thing back in those eras. Also, they're just cartoon characters so their bodies never bothered me lol. To compare one's real body with a cartoon is just silly.
THANK YOU for being sensible. Cartoons are exaggerated, nobody takes their shape seriously. I grew up reading Asterix comics, but I never aimed to develop a huge cantaloupe-shaped nose...
I would have loved to have seen an evil Elsa with short, dark hair. Would have made the story much more interesting, Let It Go aside. Also, a punk Ursula would have been awesome! Low-key, she'd still be as scary as she is if they kept with that design.
Sometimes, they don't have a voice actor in mind when the part is played, so yeah - the character design would change when the person doing the voice has been hired on.
The rescuers isn’t one of the most popular movies but the villain, Madame Medusa, was initially supposed to be Cruella de Vil (again) wearing an alligator coat You can definitely see the similarities between the two both in looks and, especially, personality
Timon and Rafiki from The lion king got a species change. Timon was once an African civet and Rafiki was a cheetah. Timon almost went through with being a realistic meerkat.
I always thought Cruella and Ursala were beautiful when I was a child, now as an adult i realize I'm just attracted more to how people make themselves look over their physical features which makes sense with what i thought when i was little.
Woody being a bad guy is a lot more surprising than Elsa, because he wasn’t even the antagonist. I could actually see him being the bad guy though if his jealousy overtook him.
Belle as with many classic princesses was clearly wearing a corset as many women did in those time periods. Completely realistic and achievable with the right under garments.
Technically they would have beens stays which were worn in the 18th century were the story takes place ... Kind of ... There's a background character who has blonde locks that resemble more of a 19th century look,but if we take Gaston's and the Beast's design as an anchor point the story takes place in the late 1700's
Seeing all the rough drafts and first designs of the characters makes me glad they changed them and made look like the ones we see and know now, especially for Tinker Bell and Alice.
I get that they want representation for different body types but these are cartoons. Exaggerated features are pretty much the whole point Also Jane Porter is probably my favorite Disney girl
The fact that they took "evil woody" design and made it not only different character, but also main baddie of the second movie, is hilarious and brilliant.
Not too happy about that dig at thin women with Moana's bit. It's a pretty common mistake in body positivity activism, but there *are* actual people who look like some of the classic disney princess body types and there's nothing unrealistic about most of them. they're just not very common. and for some of those older princesses, they would have been wearing a corset under their clothes in their historical time.
Scar definitely looks so much better, his design is so beautiful and sassy now. He definitely looks the part as the evil lion brother, he's personally one of my favorite Disney villains
OMG THIS could soo be a fun Disney mash up movie!!! Letting the old 'what could've beens' of beloved Disney characters cross paths with the versions they are now. Like kind of how the multiverse game is.
I feel this idea could of been part of the 'Epic Disney Multiverse' if the Epic Mickey game series had lasted, was a huge success, and Epic Donald was made.
The Moana portion made me cringe into my seat. It's okay if characters are drawn with unnaturally skinny propositions, because it's a cartoon. What about the weird giant eyes, and impossibly skinny fingers, and tiny feet? Not everything has to be made to reflect the flaws in others.
10:02 - "Name a more iconic Duo than Sully and Boo, we'll wait." These are just the ones off the top of my head in less than 15 minutes. Imagine how much more I would include with any actual research. Batman and Robin Bugs and Daffy Goku and Vegeta Sherlock and Watson Bonnie and Clyde Mario and Luigi Han Solo and Chewbacca Brian and Stewie Naruto and Sasuke Mickey and Minnie Orville and Wilbur Tom and Jerry Romeo and Juliet Sonic and Tails Shaggy and Scooby Doo Shrek and Donkey Doc and Marty
The final Dumbo look that they used is actually pretty similar to the initial designs; all they did was remove some of the more noticeable details like the wrinkles in his trunk.
I heard about big changes they made in "Pocahontas". In history, John Smith was about over 40 and Pocahontas was about 12 when they met. Disney made John Smith was about nearly 30 and Pocahontas was about 18. And Pocahontas was the only princess didn't have big eyes, but we didn't know she was about have big eyes in her earlier design.
The perfect live-action persona for Mulan would be Korean actress Park Eun-bin, who starred in the series The Porcelain King as well as the series A Lawyer Extraordinary.
Beast or Prince Adam (that's his human name) had all these animals features if u couldn't tell. A lion's head, with a bull's horn, boar's tusks, bear's body, and obviously wolf's lower half. I didn't any buffalos in him. The actress who played Snow White was the same for Betty Boop so that helps with what could've been too.
At Disney, a lot of unused ideas find their way into other animation. For example, Sleeping Beauty used a lot of ideas discarded from Snow White, the biggest being the one where the villainess captures and imprisons the prince to stop him rescuing the princess (used in the comic book version of Snow White as well).
I've always loved seeing concept art. So this was a fun watch. ;D I'm hoping that you'll do a continuation someday. An idea could be to delve into some Disney animated TV series designs. Seeing how much those changed.
Huh. That one iteration of the Beast's design that kind of bears a resemblance to a wild boar mixed with a wolf is almost exactly the version in the storybook I had as a child. The artwork in that book portrayed the Beast as tall and kind of thin, with a long face that looked a lot like a boar's snout mixed with a wolf's muzzle and some of the head shape. That's pretty much always been my go-to vision of how _I_ picture the Beast, even after the Disney movie.
They definitely took inspiration from the more thin and fishy Ursula for her sister in The Little Mermaid 2, i have no idea what she was called anymore but she was a thin squid whereas Ursula was a plump octopus, and she had a shark buddy
With the early designs of the 90´s movies I can see how for example Don Bluth would have went with those designs insted of the type Disney end up with. It is really hard to decide becuse all the designs have to work togheter and then the type of animation you are going for works diffrentley for diffrent styles. Again look at Do Bluth movies and The Thief and the Cobbler. Excellent animations but so diffrent still.
Well I mean Mulan didn't really change...but Muschu 😱 but I mean...Buhlan was also a kick in the ass 😭 I would be interested to see Esmeralda and Quasimodo in early stages ❤️🔥🥰❤️🔥
Weird, that original little mermaid looks been around since the 80's in an old UK thing for kids. It was called 'Storyteller' and you used to get it fortnightly. A magazine with an audio cassette to 'read along' or kids. You can find most of them from Storyteller 1,2 and little Storyteller here on TH-cam. It was called 'Geordie's Mermaid' and is the tale if a little mergirl named ShellPink, who swam up river because "I want to go to the circus" Geordie's mum sewed her a little pink vest, and they took her to see the circus. (Which of course, offered her a job, with Geordie as her 'trainer' lol) While the artwork isn't quite as cartoonish, t was the first thing I thought of, when I saw the concept art. (Tho, ShellPink was around 10 to 12 years old looking, so the vest didn't need to cover much lol, and was just modesty, unlike Disneys teenaged Ariel)
Cruella isn't old, she's emaciated. Which makes sense considering her perfectionist attitude towards appearance and fashion. Bear in mind that as Roger stated, she and Anita were in school together. Therefore Cruella can't be more than a few years older than Anita, but they are most likely the same age.
Reminds me off those posters at my school with very ugly people smoking that said "smoking is beautiful" Crulella smokes like a freight train. She also probably had a few botched plastic surgeries.
Plastic surgery, chain smoking, and *EXTREME* dieting
Also her hair was chosen to be black and white because of the book. Disney bought the rights to a children's book, and Cruella had black and white hair in it. It'd be an insult to scrap that design feature.
Yup that's right
Honestly, considering the time period in which the movie takes place, it could’ve been cocaine or meth. People did (and still do) a lot of messed up things to fit into high fashion.
"She was originally a fashion designer."
Cruella the origin story movie thing: *write that down!*
They actually put that in when they did the live-action 101 Dalmation in 1996
Also it's from the book Disney bought the rights to. Not to mention the CD rom game where Anita works in a fashion company and Cruella is her boss.
The one taking the notes: **plays tik-tak-toe** by themselves
Ok I will :D
Ursula's first look is a lot like her sister in Little Mermaid 2. As a kid I wondered what inspired that character's look. Now we know!
Also sort of like the villain in Ariel's Beginnings. I forget her name, but I can see it.
Oh i didnt know there was a little mermaid 2!
@@teddypeople6933 me neither until I saw it at a Blockbuster or Hollywood Video when I was young. I loved that movie so much. My parents must have bought a copy for me because I remember owning the VHS after a while 💜❤️♥️ the art isn't as good (common with many Disney sequels) but the story captured me when I was a little kid. It's been so long I don't even remember what happens lol
ursula’s first look reminds me a lot of how the match maker in mulan looked after mulan messed up during their meeting lol 😂
There are three. @@teddypeople6933
Ursula was based upon a famous dragqueen named Divine who was popular during the creation.
Yup. Plus she got murdered. Its a sad story.
@@jaguar4120 How sad is that? Poor Divine! I bet she was one of the best drag queens ever. Plus she had seriously good taste in style.
@@jaguar4120 Divine died of a heart attack.
@@jaguar4120 *He as a dragqueen is a man who dresses as a woman for entertainment purposes.
@@RedRoseSeptember22 Drag queens usually prefer to go by She when in drag and being referred to by their drag persona, however from what I've read Divine usually did go by He. He went by the stage name of Divine whether in or out of drag and identified as a gay man, and from what I've read it seems like most people close to him always used He.
One you left out was Gaston! While I've never seen early art of what his character was supposed to look like, I've read descriptions. He was originally designed as a scruffy, older outdoorsman with a giant mustache, (which makes me imagine him as a more old-timey version of Amos Slade from "The Fox and the Hound") only later being adapted into the arrogant, muscular hunk he ultimately ended up as. What stayed consistent were his profession as a hunter and his determination to woo Belle and "kill the Beast".
I actually looked it up and he looks more like he was originally meant to look like an old 1770's man with a white wig, like some of our early colonial
Gaston was modeled after Superman :)
@RedRoseSeptember22 no, Gaston's look was modeled after the character of Avenant from Jean Cocteau's La Belle et La Bête, except maybe they were influenced by Superman in that the character has black hair whereas Avenant had light colored hair. Disney did this a lot: stealing characters from old films. For example, Aladdin was taken from Thief of Bagdad (both the 1920s version and 1940s version) and from The Thief and The Cobbler. And Snow White was taken pretty much entirely from a Betty Boop cartoon
@@wha9962Fun fact : Natwick ,the guy who came up with Snow White's final design ,had initially worked for Fleischer Studios where he designed and animated Betty Boop. Walt Disney considered Natwick an expert on animating women and, knowing he would need him to make Snow White look pretty and believable, Disney recruited Natwick to his studio in 1935.
This reminds me that Sora from Kingdom Hearts was going to have even spiker hair and a lion's tail. he almost looked like Goku from the original Dragon Ball. makes me wonder what would have happened if that was kept?
Dragon balls x Disney crossover
Also have a chainsaw instead of a keyblade
Probably a lawsuit would've happened lol.
@@paulinebunag4875omg a chain saw? Like ash from evil dead? The key blade does oddly resemble a chain saw, just saying
@@RedRoseSeptember22 that’s what I was going to say😢
Fun fact Ariel wasn’t always destined to be a redhead! There was a push to make her blonde from execs because they wanted her to resemble Daryl Hannah in Splash, which had recently been a big hit. There is concept art of blonde Ariel, but the animators went with her now iconic bright red hair for a few reasons. One was that they, in some clashing with execs, didn’t want her to look like other popular mermaids in order for her, and by extension the movie, to stand out. The others were the decision that red hair would look better than blonde when shaded for darker lit scenes, and they realized they could use complimentary colors by combining red hair with a green tail to create an instantly iconic character design, and boy did they!
Amazing choice. Now her red hair is iconic.
Gucci Ariel
I was waiting for some one to mention this
The point is, it's sad that the foremost details most looked at for female characters are always their g00damn looks. How about brains, personality, strength and flaws etc.
I get being frustrated about beauty standards, but that isn’t really what’s going on in this case. Getting down a good, distinct character design is essential in animation, regardless of the character’s gender. The color palette is a huge part of what makes a memorable design. A good example of this for a male character is Roger Rabbit, where the animators gave him a red, white & blue palette (white fur, red pants, blue bow tie) because the combination would already look aesthetically appealing to audiences because of American iconography.
As a historical fashion buff I feel the need to point out that Pocahontas is put into Victorian undergarments (1840-89ish) when she was alive in the 1600's (they had a different skirt shape and the torso would look straight but thin ). Historical fashionistas were masters of disguise and that's why they look like they have tiny waists. (It's why the live action Cinderella looked like she had a tiny waist) although young ladies of high status did tend to over-cinch their corsets to try to get a man (but they didn't really have any other good options at the time either.) It's where the term "she let herself go" comes from. Because by then they no longer cared to catch a man and were more concerned with their kids and comfort than what a man who was apt to beat her or cheat on her had to say.
Pocahontas was also 11 when she met John Smith. She was kidnapped, married to an older man John Rolfe, and died without ever seeing her people again. It's why I won't let my kids watch it.. I feel like it's really disrespectful to her tragic life story. Imagine if they did that to Anne Frank. Had her aged up to an adult and fall in love with a Nazi. There would be an absolute uproar. But because she's a Native American girl, no one cares.. My point being, I don't put it past Disney to mess up costume accuracy, look at Jasmine in the cartoon Aladdin.
Thank you!
Yeah, isn't it amazing how Disney always uses Victorian corsets even in the wrong century? In POTC they "tight-laced" Lizzie Swan into her corset, even though tightlacing wasn't even a thing at the time. Those 17th-century corsets were stiff and uncomfortable, but definitely not too tight to breathe. But hey, any metaphor to bring across an age-old overused clichee: the "modern girl caught in a historic setting"...
Fun fact on that live action Cinderella - since I heard it a bunch in a women's study class: That's actually the actress's [or was if it's changed in all these years] body size. And she was so upset with everyone who blamed Disney for "digitally shrinking her waist to an unrealistic size" when that was, in fact, her actual waist.
Thank you!
Why is nobody talking about how gorgeous the original tinkerbell concept was! Sooo fashionable!
I really wouldn’t say that Moana used to be thin, her old design just made her look younger, more like Julia from Luca
Exactly, she looks 12-13 in those early drafts.
I think it’s because she doesn’t have these exaggerated curves other disney princesses do. In the early designs she is thinner, but she does not have an hourglass figure.
Ariel wasn’t always a red head. She was Sketched as a blonde. They changed it because it clash with the background.
I thought they'd changed here's from being blond because of the movie Splash.
But you're right, she wasn't always a redhead
You are correct. I actually remember seeing something that Disney put out that said she was meant to be a blonde. I’m also wondering if the “original” drawing was from Disney, or if it was from the book of the actual tale that was the inspiration. People forget, there is a much darker original tale from the base books. Like, Cinderella’s step sisters where said to have actually cut off their toes to fit into the slipper.
And it's more likely that Hans Christian Andersen imagined her to have dark hair like himself, as she was a self insert character. He never actually specified a hair colour, though, so it's up to the reader to decide.
I thought they switched Ariel from blonde to red head because the red popped more and stood out against the background, etc.
As a person that enjoys discovering the design process of animation and more it's not shocking for 1 character alone and even the story itself to eventually have 50 different versions before the final.
Always enjoy seeing the journey and what inspired the changes plus the many directions taken. Some designs I like but can understand after discovery why changes happened and some I wish still remained or at least grabbed my wonder of "What If".
i feel like Ursula's skinny scary type was given a new life in the little mermaid 2 as her crazy sister
The Moana concept art was clearly her as younger, she looked like a normal 6-10 year old
I loved Jane's look. So glad they made her resemble Minnie. Love her! ❤️
fun fact: the guy who designed the characters for hercules was gerald scarfe, a political cartoonist who also animated pink floyd: the wall. you can really tell when you see hercules' concept art
Personally i liked how Disney made them look and I'm happy with the way they turned out even though it might not have been they should've looked like I still love how Disney made them look
That’s why they make the big bucks! Lol
It may also be because you're used to the way they look
Genie also had a concept art that made him look scary. And Shan Yu, he had one that made him look like an actual MONSTER!
Beast in beauty and the beast is just a furry who took off his suit in the end xD
Edit: OG snow white wasn't 14. She was 7. The queen tried to kill her 3 times. First by lacing her bodice too tightly, second time with a poisoned comb and lastly with the apple. But because of the last two times, she didn't trust the apple (it was half red, half white. red was the poisoned side) so the queen cut it in half and ate the white side to prove it wasn't poisoned. Once "dead", she laid in that glass coffin for "a long, long time" until a prince stumbled across the dwarf house and saw the coffin, wanted it for himself and begged the dwarves to have it (i know, creepy guy wanted a dead girl). The dwarves dropped the bloody coffin which dislodged the apple and woke her up.
So snow white, woke up years later, with the mind of a 7 year old, to become the wife to a prince she had never met before xD
Old stories are wacky as shit.
That's just one adaptation of it lol. There are many different ones.
Fun fact: they changed sisu's design because they found it was harder to make toys with the original one
Little Mermaid die-hard fan here, still I think some of the concept art for Ursula (especially Glen Keane's) look more interesting than the final version.
I really like the hippie version of Ariel tbh. And the cute fat green Sebastian 😂
Her final look has always seemed kinda bland, especially compared to other Disney villains
@@Annatomova7 Well you know Disney wasn't gonna have Ariel swimmng around with her titties out lol.
@@RedRoseSeptember22 yeah, but I still like that design 🤷🏻♀️.
Ursula's final look is based on Divine. Though, I'm guessing that more punk-like one was as well.
Yup. Plus she got murdered. Its a sad story.
@@jaguar4120 Divine died of a heart attack, not murder.
I think with a lot of the older princesses the reason their waists were so thin was because they wore corsets :) it was a big fashion thing back in those eras. Also, they're just cartoon characters so their bodies never bothered me lol. To compare one's real body with a cartoon is just silly.
Yeah, especially Cindy and Aurora. They were both from around the same fashion era, so they both had that Dior "New Look" silhouette.
I always saw it as a stylistic choice. /shrug
THANK YOU for being sensible. Cartoons are exaggerated, nobody takes their shape seriously. I grew up reading Asterix comics, but I never aimed to develop a huge cantaloupe-shaped nose...
Exactly but people want to complain about something.
aurora's corset is even visible 😭
I would have loved to have seen an evil Elsa with short, dark hair. Would have made the story much more interesting, Let It Go aside. Also, a punk Ursula would have been awesome! Low-key, she'd still be as scary as she is if they kept with that design.
Scar is just Jafar as a lion from the facial features to the voice exactly the same💯
What do you expect? Animated by the same guy.
Pretty much
Omg, yes! Finally! Someone agrees!
I agree. Just different VOICE ACTORS
One thing I've noticed in Disney films: The lead characters many times have faces that very much resemble the voice actors who portray them.
Sometimes, they don't have a voice actor in mind when the part is played, so yeah - the character design would change when the person doing the voice has been hired on.
I agree with that especially certain Princesses.
This video is seriously entertaining. The editing is fabulous!
I went to high school with a girl who looked like a live-action version of Tinkerbell. Unfortunately, she had quite a nasty personality.
Well Tinker Belle sometimes had a nasty personality in the movies if you think about...
@@stitch_2159 True... Very true...
Fun fact, Frozen was supposed to be called the Snow Queen, and yes Elsa is supposed to be the Snow Queen.
Emily Blunt portrayed a fantastic Snow Queen in Snowwhite and the Huntsmen :)
One thing:
If aerial thought a fork was a hairbrush, did she think her father ruled the ocean with a giant golden hairbrush…?
The rescuers isn’t one of the most popular movies but the villain, Madame Medusa, was initially supposed to be Cruella de Vil (again) wearing an alligator coat
You can definitely see the similarities between the two both in looks and, especially, personality
Timon and Rafiki from The lion king got a species change. Timon was once an African civet and Rafiki was a cheetah. Timon almost went through with being a realistic meerkat.
ooh, cheetah... but I guess that would've ruined the concept of uniqueness in the midquel
@@user-cu9hy6hn9b I always wondered how he was expected to lift up little lion babies for everyone one to see as a cheetah
I always thought Cruella and Ursala were beautiful when I was a child, now as an adult i realize I'm just attracted more to how people make themselves look over their physical features which makes sense with what i thought when i was little.
I learned at one point that Ariel was originally going to be blond, however, the red hair that we all know and love looked better with the teal tail.
Woody being a bad guy is a lot more surprising than Elsa, because he wasn’t even the antagonist. I could actually see him being the bad guy though if his jealousy overtook him.
Belle as with many classic princesses was clearly wearing a corset as many women did in those time periods. Completely realistic and achievable with the right under garments.
Technically they would have beens stays which were worn in the 18th century were the story takes place ... Kind of ... There's a background character who has blonde locks that resemble more of a 19th century look,but if we take Gaston's and the Beast's design as an anchor point the story takes place in the late 1700's
Seeing all the rough drafts and first designs of the characters makes me glad they changed them and made look like the ones we see and know now, especially for Tinker Bell and Alice.
On behalf of girls with overbites everywhere, I’m glad that they went with Jane’s final design😃
Ariel wasn't always a redhead! She was blond until another movie was using a blond mermaid (Splash, I think?) so she went red late into production. :3
“Because I’m a lady that’s why 😒💅" Actually cracked me up 😂😂❤
Fun fact: the original Hades looks like that because he was modelled after Jack Nicholson since they wanted him to be the voice actor
He straight up looks like James Woods though, who IS the voice actor 😄. But I don't doubt that they put some of Nicholsons features in there as well.
4:40 Grandma:“who are you meant to beeee”
Moana: looks at her old self “not this”
I get that they want representation for different body types but these are cartoons. Exaggerated features are pretty much the whole point
Also Jane Porter is probably my favorite Disney girl
The fact that they took "evil woody" design and made it not only different character, but also main baddie of the second movie, is hilarious and brilliant.
Not too happy about that dig at thin women with Moana's bit. It's a pretty common mistake in body positivity activism, but there *are* actual people who look like some of the classic disney princess body types and there's nothing unrealistic about most of them. they're just not very common. and for some of those older princesses, they would have been wearing a corset under their clothes in their historical time.
I actually like that goth look for Ursula.
Woody being a villain actually makes a lot more since now.
I'm surprised you guys didn't touch on Ralph from Wreck-it Ralph. Some of his early designs were really wild!
Scar definitely looks so much better, his design is so beautiful and sassy now. He definitely looks the part as the evil lion brother, he's personally one of my favorite Disney villains
Did you just say sassy?
@@jbrisby No I said "photosynthesis"
Those Little Mermaid concepts are so fascinating to me.
OMG THIS could soo be a fun Disney mash up movie!!! Letting the old 'what could've beens' of beloved Disney characters cross paths with the versions they are now. Like kind of how the multiverse game is.
I feel this idea could of been part of the 'Epic Disney Multiverse' if the Epic Mickey game series had lasted, was a huge success, and Epic Donald was made.
This is an awesome idea! Get in contact with Disney lol
The Moana portion made me cringe into my seat. It's okay if characters are drawn with unnaturally skinny propositions, because it's a cartoon. What about the weird giant eyes, and impossibly skinny fingers, and tiny feet? Not everything has to be made to reflect the flaws in others.
Seeing the older sketches of Aladdin and Jasmine really cements the “Cobbler and the Thief” theory.
10:02 - "Name a more iconic Duo than Sully and Boo, we'll wait."
These are just the ones off the top of my head in less than 15 minutes. Imagine how much more I would include with any actual research.
Batman and Robin
Bugs and Daffy
Goku and Vegeta
Sherlock and Watson
Bonnie and Clyde
Mario and Luigi
Han Solo and Chewbacca
Brian and Stewie
Naruto and Sasuke
Mickey and Minnie
Orville and Wilbur
Tom and Jerry
Romeo and Juliet
Sonic and Tails
Shaggy and Scooby Doo
Shrek and Donkey
Doc and Marty
You must be fun at parties.
@@Naogostoumorra I am, wanna party?
Jasmines original sketch was so pretty, yet she looked like villain. 😭
The final Dumbo look that they used is actually pretty similar to the initial designs; all they did was remove some of the more noticeable details like the wrinkles in his trunk.
It was a sketch. Obviously Scar wasn't going to be more "cartoony" than the rest of the lions.
Right? A bunch of these are just different art styles, not redesigned characters.
Ahhhhhhhhh!!! That concept art of ariel is freaking amazing! I would have LOVED THAT
This is excellent, I just love it ✌
I heard about big changes they made in "Pocahontas". In history, John Smith was about over 40 and Pocahontas was about 12 when they met. Disney made John Smith was about nearly 30 and Pocahontas was about 18. And Pocahontas was the only princess didn't have big eyes, but we didn't know she was about have big eyes in her earlier design.
I love villian-elsa so much, i wish they would have went with it
Amazing video 👌
Moana has always reminded me of Lilo's sister. And Triton from the drowing looked like the Genie from Aladdin
Toy Story gave me enough nightmares, if Woody looked like that I could only imagine how much worse they'd be
Woody being a puppet is actually the reason why he’s named Woody. To be related to the reason that he is made of wood.
Keep in mind that *corsets* really alter your waist if you wear them long enough.
Like *REALLY* alter your waist
The beast’s first look for the beauty and the beast was actually stunning
The perfect live-action persona for Mulan would be Korean actress Park Eun-bin, who starred in the series The Porcelain King as well as the series A Lawyer Extraordinary.
4:49 oh great... A naked woman with a vest . If Disney added this character they would be IN SERIOUS TROUBLE
Beast or Prince Adam (that's his human name) had all these animals features if u couldn't tell. A lion's head, with a bull's horn, boar's tusks, bear's body, and obviously wolf's lower half. I didn't any buffalos in him. The actress who played Snow White was the same for Betty Boop so that helps with what could've been too.
Fun fact: Other designs of the Beast are used for his statues around his castle
At Disney, a lot of unused ideas find their way into other animation. For example, Sleeping Beauty used a lot of ideas discarded from Snow White, the biggest being the one where the villainess captures and imprisons the prince to stop him rescuing the princess (used in the comic book version of Snow White as well).
@@Goodiesfanful It's also like how in the Aladdin remake, Will Smith's Genie shows concept art of the original Genie.
We could've had a Jasmin and Aladin brother/sister Dynamic?! Man that'd been great
That first alternate Jasmine is pretty great.
I have to say, I adore Cruella's long hair! 😭🖤
I've always loved seeing concept art. So this was a fun watch. ;D I'm hoping that you'll do a continuation someday. An idea could be to delve into some Disney animated TV series designs. Seeing how much those changed.
Some of these are insane! 😮🤩
Huh. That one iteration of the Beast's design that kind of bears a resemblance to a wild boar mixed with a wolf is almost exactly the version in the storybook I had as a child. The artwork in that book portrayed the Beast as tall and kind of thin, with a long face that looked a lot like a boar's snout mixed with a wolf's muzzle and some of the head shape. That's pretty much always been my go-to vision of how _I_ picture the Beast, even after the Disney movie.
One of the concepts for the beast from beauty and the beast looks like the beast from the live action: beauty and the beast.
They definitely took inspiration from the more thin and fishy Ursula for her sister in The Little Mermaid 2, i have no idea what she was called anymore but she was a thin squid whereas Ursula was a plump octopus, and she had a shark buddy
"Name a more iconic duo than Sully and Boo"
Fucking Sully and MIKE?
Jesus dude, it was right there. He also had a considerably different design
Why the skinny-shaming? We know cartoons aren't supposed to be "realistic" but what's wrong with having slender characters? Jeez
Ursula's original look would be perfect for a Nobody for her in Kingdom Hearts.
The red head tinker bell would've been accurate to Marilyn because she was naturally a red head but went blonde
I’m glad we got the Ursula we ended up with lol
I love seeing the process
I watched the making of Beauty and the Beast, it was amazing how different versions of all the characters were...
I love this 😍 It's so interesting.
P.S. I like the 2nd Sadness sketch. Super cute with the little curls, big eyelashes, and striped outfit 💙
Loved this video ❤❤❤
With the early designs of the 90´s movies I can see how for example Don Bluth would have went with those designs insted of the type Disney end up with. It is really hard to decide becuse all the designs have to work togheter and then the type of animation you are going for works diffrentley for diffrent styles.
Again look at Do Bluth movies and The Thief and the Cobbler. Excellent animations but so diffrent still.
crabs are usually green/gray/blackish when they are alive and turn red when they are cooked :) (this is a comment for Sebastian)
"Name a more iconic duo than Sully and Boo."
Timon and Pumba.
A round of applause for the editing of this video 👏
Well I mean Mulan didn't really change...but Muschu 😱 but I mean...Buhlan was also a kick in the ass 😭
I would be interested to see Esmeralda and Quasimodo in early stages ❤️🔥🥰❤️🔥
Tinkerbell and Cruela are literally gorgeous in their first sketches
That's so amazing good job 👍
I have a pleasant experience watching your videos 💛💛💛
Where did you find the hippe ariel concept art? I did a surface search and cant find it, it looks so cool!
SADNESS’ FIRST DESIGN WAS SO CUTE THOOOOO
Weird, that original little mermaid looks been around since the 80's in an old UK thing for kids.
It was called 'Storyteller' and you used to get it fortnightly.
A magazine with an audio cassette to 'read along' or kids.
You can find most of them from Storyteller 1,2 and little Storyteller here on TH-cam.
It was called 'Geordie's Mermaid' and is the tale if a little mergirl named ShellPink, who swam up river because "I want to go to the circus"
Geordie's mum sewed her a little pink vest, and they took her to see the circus.
(Which of course, offered her a job, with Geordie as her 'trainer' lol)
While the artwork isn't quite as cartoonish, t was the first thing I thought of, when I saw the concept art.
(Tho, ShellPink was around 10 to 12 years old looking, so the vest didn't need to cover much lol, and was just modesty, unlike Disneys teenaged Ariel)
A Bette Midler based Elsa could've been good.