Why Sonic Unleashed Hasn't Been Remastered
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ค. 2023
- A Sonic Unleashed remaster or PC port has been requested for years. But despite the requests, a port of the game still doesn't exist, but why is that? Let's discuss this in today's video!
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edited the video title because it was misleading. Sonic Unleashed can still get remastered but this video was just supposed to be speculation on why they haven't done it yet!
my apologies for the confusion
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@@zb3397 oh nah
Hopefully Sega sticks to what Iizuka said in the interview and remasters Unleashed next like all the fans want
sega said in a video that if the fans want it they'll remaster
I always assumed it was because they lost the source code or porting to current hardware would require massive rewriting of the game's code, given how they were made for X360 (PowerPC) and PS3 (Cell). But the theory about the Havok licensing makes a lot of sense!
Your theory might explain why from Lost World onwards Sonic Team never used the Havok engine again and why the controls and physics from then onwards degraded so much. Peharps Sega prohibited them from using the Havok engine and they had to create something new from scratch.
pretty sure Cell is powerPC
LW and Forces ARE made with the Havok engine and Frontiers improved the physics again. This is just capping.
@@acwbit2368 Yes, it is PowerPC, bit the PS3's Cell processor had its own particularities that made it very different from any other chip at the time. It was pretty much its own thing, because no other consumer products ever used it, like how Sony intended. I think only the PS3 and a workstation used the Cell, then it was scrapped
@@lpfan4491i'd believe it, but source?
I dont think sega could still sell sonic generations on steam if they dont have the license for the havok engine, which, they still do.
So, some clarification/context
1. Havok isn't a full engine, it's a physics engine/plugin. Unleashed runs the Hedgehog Engine 1.0 which has Havok Integrated into it to handle Physics. Just like how Zelda BOTW/TOTK runs Nintnedo's EPD In-House engine with Havok Integrated to help act as a simulation engine for physics.
2. Sonic Colors Ultimate was mainly a case of mismanagement and time, Blind Squirrel showed they were perfectly capable of making an excellent remaster with their previous effort on Mass Effect Legendary Edition. SEGA contracted them and gave them a goal (remaster Sonic Colors for all platforms, including/especially Nintendo Switch), and gave them not enough time and/or budget to complete the project. Therefore, leading to the jank with Godot Engine being used as a wrapper for the render and how slapdash it feels.
So Sonic Unleashed not getting a remaster yet is purely time/investment based, SEGA either hasn't found a developer/want to remaster it, or they have found a developer/team and are giving them actual time to remaster the game properly like Blind Squirrel's 2 yearlong effort of making Mass Effect Legendary edition.
Theoretically, a new engine for Unleashed could work out...if care was put into the porting/refactoring effort.
Wrappers can be used...but have shown their inefficiencies (Colors Ultimate and GTA The Trilogy DE)
However, there are 2 other types of upgrades that can be done
There's the type that Retro Studios and Monolithsoft did for Metroid Prime Remastered and Xenoblade Definitive Edition, and also what could be what Rockstar may be doing for the rumored Read Dead Redemption Remaster, AKA port the game to the most modern version of their in-house technology (Mainly the renderer for XBC:DE)
Then there's another route which could lead to massive dividends and room for adjustments if the codebase of the original is just right, aka a direct porting into Unreal Engine.
The example of this is Crisis Core Reunion from Square Enix. The original Crisis Core's source code is purely C++ which, becuase UE4 can take C++ perfectly, allowed them to pretty much /import Crisis Core's PSP version into UE4's editor and work from there to enhance and tweak it.
So if Hedgehog Engine 1 was purely written in C++, they could theoretically move it's source code and assets into UE5 if the formats are right. Or better yet, if HE1 code isn't incompatible with Hedgehog Engine 2's Editor (Frontiers), just directly up-port it like Metroid Prime Remastered or Xenoblade DE.
You know this stuff better than me lol
Xenoblade DE is the best example of how a remaster should be made
I mentioned this in my reply to this video as well, the director of Sonic Frontiers stated in an interview last year that Hedgehog Engine V1's source code was actually lost. He mentioned that they came to this realization during development when they went to try and integrate movement options and control styles reminiscent of what they did in Unleashed and couldn't not find complete libraries of the code so they had to rebuild what they could from feeling and what little documentation had survived over the past decade or so. Really wish there were better ways of preserving this type of data.
That sounds promising ^ that said, I do agree with SF on this one it's not something they need to rush at all. If you're going to remaster this game... do it in a way that does it justice. I only played this game last week after years of hearing it was kind of mid and I was legitimately surprised by how fun it actually was.
One thing I should note as well is Sonic Heroes using RenderWare isn't necesarrily a deal-breaker as while Renderware itself is no longer supported EA does still allow those previously held a license to re-use the engine which is what they themselves did with Burnout Paradise's remaster. That said, given how old Heroes it's hard to imagine renewing that license would be worth the return in revenue.
@@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective well, Stellar Entertainment (developer of Burnout Paradise Remastered and NFS Hot Pursuit Remastered) are made up of former Burnout developers who made the Renderware engine which EA 100% owns after acquiring Criterion Software and Renderware from then parent corporation, Canon (the camera company), back in 2003. That's how they had access to the Renderware HD engine (as well as it being integrated into DICE's Frostbyte), but the engine as a whole being unsupported and unavailable is why GTA: the Trilogy was ported to Unreal Engine for the (not so) Definitive Edition release and why games like Katamari Damacy Reroll and We Love Katamari Reroll are ports built in Unity Engine as those engines have adaptive plugins that support porting Renderware natively but it isn't 100% and still requires the devs to do some work to get some things running.
What I am getting at is that it is doable but Sega doesn't really have the track record for me to think they can do it correctly.
Coming back here to say Sonic Generations is getting a remake, so they could easily remaster Unleashed now
Its just a remaster im pretty sure, not a remake
@@codysvlogdays It's literally in a different engine
@@RandomAnimeGamerwatch them ruin the physics to be like sonic 06 which we had in frontiers and yet again you need mods to have a fun experience and console users are fucked over once again. sonic team is a joke, if they cared they would take the week of work it takes to integrate the physics and controls from a mod like trackers physics into the game for everyone, but they don’t
@@emeneensj445 Sonic Frontiers physics is just Sonic Generations physics with sliders and toggles. You don't have to mod frontiers to have good physics you literally pause the game. Sonic fans outing themselves as never playing their own fucking games
@@RandomAnimeGamer idk why people have such low standards for game studios now to the point they’re fine with getting fucked over spending $60, no objective explanation matters when i paid 60 bucks and the movement is absolutely horrible, no slope physics and he does gain or maintain momentum. its actually baffling how momentum isn’t in it, you could be playing a roblox pizza delivery game and it has momentum, it’s such a basic concept that let alone a SONIC game can’t add in
also it literally is not generations physics, it’s clear you haven’t played it since you don’t know the purposes of the sliders. the last time you could walk around a loop at 1 mph was SONIC 06. shows where the series is going.
Sonic generations got a remaster, so maybe there is another hope.
Fr, secret rings, Lost world, Sonic heroes and dark Knight deserve one too
@@ursinhobugado740 and the adventures games too
I think the main reason why Unleashed never got a port or remaster is because it was harshly panned by critics at the time the game was released. Most of the hate Unleashed received was the result of it being the next mainline game after Sonic 06 and that was the time when hating on the Sonic franchise became a trend.
Couple that with the polar extremes of the daytime stages being the fastest Sonic has ever been before or since to the point of being unwieldy for many and the nighttime stages being slow, methodical fares with a severe lack of animation-cancelling, and it was a recipe for disaster at the worst possible time.
Well, Fuk it! The fans will do it themselves and put effort to make it work just like Sonic 06 Pc project
@@Omega-jg4oq The Xbox one series x version of Unleashed as stronger frame-rate.
as time pass unleashed is getting more and more love, even though the critics absolutely shat on the game, i think if they see the fans actually want a remaster, they might remaster it
I just recently beat this game for the first time on my Xbox series X with 60 fps boost and it played rlly smoothly. Moments like these im happy to have an Xbox :,)
Played it too, but 720p is hard to watch on 50" TV. That's why we need proper re-release atleast with 4K/60fps support
@@Silverinisarticles online say it’s 4K 60fps on series x and 1440p 60fps on series s. Is this not actually the case?
@@Moj895 no it's not
Unleashed got only FPS boost feature. While Generations got up to 4K as well
@@Silverinis It's weird that Generations runs at native 4k on Xbox but they couldn't give Unleashed a resolution bump. Maybe Unleashed doesn't have built-in UI scaling like Generations does.
Xbox is so much better at Ps with backwards compatibility!
While Havok might still be a potential issue, I think the bigger issue is hedgehog engine which is not supported on modern consoles as it was phased out for the updated hedgehog engine 2. The game's code would have to be updated to work with the new engine or completely changed to work with a different engine (like what they did with colors ultimate probably because the outside team did not have access to or did not know how to use hedgehog engine). moving the game to a different engine is a time-consuming process that can have mixed results as shown by colors ultimate and I doubt any of the internal teams familiar with hedgehog engine 2 are available to remaster this game so there is a good chance that if the game was getting remastered, the engine will get changed. This is assuming the game is getting a remaster and considering colors ultimate's reception and the higher ups at Sega knowing the costs of remastering one of these games now, I don't think a remaster of this game is likely.
Colours Ultimate runs on a weird hybrid of Hedgehog Engine 1 (the Unleashed/Colours/Generations/Lost World engine) and Godot Engine (the Cruelty Squad engine).
Sonic Colors Ultimate runs on HE1. They could fix that version up for a port.
While true, there’s a chance that Hedgehog Engine 2 at least shares SOME compatibility with HE1 since they’re different versions of the same engine, right?
I think it might be because of UnWiished. For colors and gens, the secondary versions are almost completely different and considered inferior, whereas with Unleashed theres some contention on which version is better, and either way they would be disappointing some fans so maybe they'd rather just not touch it and hope the demand goes down
In Colors' case, I think a lot of people actually prefer the DS version
@@SFproductions1 True, but from Segas perspective they'd probably rather port the Wii version over the DS version since the Wii version is 3d, even if more people prefer the DS one
Bruh. I already know they would ignore Unwiished. As someone who has that game in his Sonic top 3 and never played Unleashed, I could live with it. Actually, it is exactly because I see these two games as seperate that I could live with it. If they never port or remake Unwiished like with Colors DS not getting a remaster, then it is still a net positive of another Sonic game being ported. If one cannot have both, then choosing is better than having neither.
It'd be cool if they made all THREE versions of Unleashed playable
Is that asking too much? Probably
It'd be neat tho
@@beastmode4tm We don't talk about the phone game. Unless it is a remake that makes it good.(I can say I would have it be in as a side-mode for an Unwiished Ultimate if I ever get the cash money to pay a devteam to make it. The idea just sounds sick to me, in the good sense of the word.)
I remember sometime last year I was playing the game on my Xbox via backwards compatibility, and I just spent ages trying to complete Eggmanland as fast as I can. I managed to get a time of 10 minutes and 55 seconds :)
The Core gameplay of Colors Ultimate was completely fine. It was just Blind Squirrel being incompetent/Lazy and SEGA being greedy and rushing it out the door.
Still better than Nintendo
@@MarkiBoiBlox if you like consistently getting garbage products, yeah SEGA is definitely better than Nintendo
"Better than Nintendo" sure bud 💀
@@nmr7203 Nope, Shit ton of bugs and a Laggy Menu are still present
@@Terminal_Apotos bullshit ive played the game myself didnt see any bugs
I'm fairly confident that the lack of any word on a re-release of the game has nothing to do with an unwillingness to license the project off to other developers. SEGA's not the biggest company in the industry, but they're big enough to have multiple divisions working on different projects at the same time. They could easily handle it in-house by having the Sonic Team division working on the newer mainline games such as Sonic Superstars while another division of SEGA handles porting the already existing Sonic Unleashed to newer hardware.
Replacing a song isn't really a big deal either, as mentioned in the video they could simply have the song get re-performed so that they have a version of it that they can use, or just replace it with a completely different piece of music entirely. They might get some flack for it either way, but if it gets the game out then I think that's the thing people would more care about.
I don't even think that licensing the Havok engine is even the problem. Even if for whatever reason they're unable to acquire the necessary rights, having to redo physics on a new engine wouldn't even be all that big of a deal for experienced devs. It would be a lot of work, but that only amounts to them doing their jobs.
Therefore, my speculation regarding why it hasn't happened yet is this; Publishers care about two things primarily: Money, and franchise growth. Just earning profits isn't enough, they need to be able to expand the reach of a franchise to new customers to multiply those profits. As such, a fanbase of guaranteed profits isn't necessarily enough to get a project greenlit, there needs to be something convincing them that such a game will do better than that on release and attract new customers, and that needs to happen at a time when either a division of the company isn't occupied with developing anything else or there's reason to trust a third party dev studio with the project.
i hadn’t considered a lot of these. i hope maybe one day it can come to fruition but the beauty of unleashed is that they could honestly rerelease it as is without having to fix much (maybe besides the drift but even then i wouldnt be too mad if they didnt) but the graphical fidelity is still top notch and with a frame rate and resolution boost, i have a version of unleashed that i would be more than happy with
Well, we can remove the speculation about the havoc engine since sonic generation is comming to new console
Exactly and the music they manged to work around sonic 3k
Tried Unleashed on my Xbox Series X with FPS Boost, was really smooth. Don't think it really needs much of a remaster beyond that.
I'd just say an optimized and slightly improved port on all consoles is all we really need.
@@kinggalactixInclude the DLC levels in the remaster too!
Usuary of play station:💀
I hope that it will run good on my Xbox One.
How about Sonic fans with a PS4/PS5: 💀💀
Okay, no. Blind Squirrel is not an “inexperienced” studio. They did a port job of the mass effect trilogy which ended up great literally right before Sonic Colors Ultimate. There’s plenty of port houses that could remaster Unleashed, but if Sega wants it done internally, they have internal studios all across the world who could get it done.
Inexperienced with Sonic sorry I should've elaborated
7 months later they announce sonic x shadow gens
I like Nathan Sharp's music and all but I feel like Jared Reddick's original vocals are too iconic to replace for a potential re release. I hate that the original isn't on streaming services too.
I still hope for the day I hear the beginning of Endless Possibilities start playing during a Nintendo Direct or something.
So uh what’s their excuse now I mean generations is getting a really good looking port at the end of the year
3:03 welp....
This is the reason why I'm tried of people saying I want a Sonic Unleashed remake
A remake means it’s made from scratch. A remaster means improving old assets like models and a remake means making new models.
Ok but wouldn't you? Everyone thinks its the best Sonic game ever and they're just showing their love for it.
My question would be, why do we "need" an Unleashed remake / remaster? I am not sure who "everyone" is but I personally don't think it's the best Sonic game ever and whilst that may not be everyones opinion, I doubt it is a minority view.
Colours, like Origins made sense as "legacy content" Sega spoke of off the back of the movies success to expose the new audience to previous games. But, these games are well regarded as top tier entries in the franchise. Unleashed, really isn't. When Unleashed first came out I thought people were far too kind to it, in more recent years that has changed to a more divided opinion. Why would Sega bother?
Another thing that seems to really baffle me is this "preservationists are concerned" etc about "not being able to play these games" - really?? Preservationists?? It isn't a Viking Longboat, it isn't an ancient Egyptian artefact, it's a mass produced piece of software that you can pick up anytime for less than an hours wage. The console to play it on is in abundance for about an hours wages too, why is everyone making this "preservation" argument for video games little over ten years old all of a sudden that are so readily available?
@@Zaphod-ef9yz Yeah ok not reading all that, anyway reasons why Unleashed needs a remaster:
1: its beloved by fans, id say way more than colors in this current day and age
2: it does need a remaster, as good as the game is we can all agree it has extreme flaws
3: graphical improvements though this is basically just the same as reason 2
@Zaphod-ef9yz the game doesn't need a remake/remaster, literally shifting the game on modern console and pc works fine, cus the game still holds up incredibly to this day
Hey, so Sonic Generations is getting ported to newer hardware. Unleashed is still a possibility if they somehow worked around whatever the problem was with Generations :D
well now we have sonic x shadow generations so i dont think havok is the issue😭😭😭
Sonic Unleashed used the Hedgehog engine, which is a really powerful (for its time) game and physics engine. On top of that, SEGA and Sonic Team are the ones who made it and they used it for Unleashed and I’m pretty sure they used it for Colors too. Therefore there won’t be any licensing issues when it comes to game engines
The Hedgehog Engine is only a graphics engine. Havok is the physics engine.
@@SFproductions1 Then why doesn’t Unleashed credit it like Generations does?
@@Tam3603 it does. It says Havok right after the hedgehog Engine animation
@@SFproductions1 Really? I’ve been playing Unleashed ever since I was 3, 12 years ago, and I never saw it
its there lol
At this point i would love a whole remaster/remake-ish, they can take as long as they want, it could incorporate reimagined wii levels at full hd with hdr and such
This is actually my guess as to why Sonic Frontiers uses Unleashed and Generations levels in Cyber Space
They can’t port the games so they ported the stages instead
i dont think thats why, i think its just because they didnt have the time to make new levels for cyberspace
No. They just lazy.
@xNeroGamerPL here we go again with someone calling them lazy. Do you not understand what goes on at Sega
its not that they were just lazy, its that sega constantly doesnt give sonic team the time and budget they need, so they're forced to cut corners
@@xNeroGamerPLthis is not how game development works lmao
Blame sega who doesent give sonic team enough time and money
They already had to make 3 big islands and on top of that 30 boost stages
Game developers in most cases wants game to be good even more than us lol
Hopefully this video gets them to do it or at least makes them consider it. Maybe they had some coders trying to make the physics without the Havok Engine and it just became overwhelming for them and took too many years so they just dropped the project.
Amazing Video! Thanks for all this information and this is my favorite game of all time and I learned a lot here. Thank you :)
Glad you enjoyed it!
Generations is finally ported so now unleashed is possible
Im still hoping for a remake/remaster of unleashed. Its such a great game and its sad that so many people are not able to play it on modern consoles unless you get a copy for xbox, ps2, or ps3. Hell, I went and got my old ps3 to play the game. Atleast the game is not hard to come by.
I heard the ps2 port sucks.
@@thegamingprozone1941 Due hardware limitations yes, its better to play the xbox 360 or ps3 version.
@@triledink The Xbox one series x version of Unleashed as stronger frame-rate.
I have hopes it might be a possibility now since Sonic Generations is getting remastered and that game includes assets from Sonic Unleashed.
3:08 well now we have Generations being remastered... so this one's off the table.
After Colors and some parts of Origins, I'm afraid that one day more remasters of old games will happen including Unleashed, which is one of my favorites.
Somehow they managed to ruin Sonic 3 & Knuckles, which is my favorite game of the classic era, at least several fixes have been made now with Origins Plus, but still one cannot help but say that Sega took too long to fix them and that a company that wants the trust of its buyers should be more careful with its products at launch and not leave to fix everything afterwards.
I also feel like it could possibly have something to do with Sonic Unleashed using the 4Kids cast. I dunno if 4Kids is still around or not, but if they were to remaster Unleashed, they'd have to go through 4Kids or, at the very least, pay the cast for using their voices. We know how the fan base would react if they used the new cast to re-dub everything.
If this was the case then adventure 2 would've gotten redubbed in 2013 they'll never touch the voice acting unless the voice actor did something absurd
That probably isnt really a problem at all seeing as Both SA1 and 2 got rereleased in 2010 and 2012 respectively well after the time the SA cast cast got phased out
The Xbox one series x version of Unleashed as stronger frame-rate.
Thank you for being thorough and informative, and getting straight to the point. youve gained another subscriber. I think at this moment in time, Sonic unleashed on xbox series consoles is the way to go for a legal way to play unleashed at 60 fps (fps boost not on xbox one consoles)
The licensing issues for both the theme and engine don't seem very likely if you ask me. Mainly because the game is still being sold digitally on the Xbox and PlayStation stores. Maybe it's more complicated than that, but I think the reason is that Sega is too scared to.
Why? Well back when the game came out it was mercilessly ridiculed by a bunch of out of touch news outlets and people who didn't even play the game because they thought the Werehog was dumb (which it is, but it's not trying take itself that seriously when he literally has stretchy powers). People like Egoraptor to this day always bring Unleashed up like it's this gross stain on the franchise like "lmao, remember when he furry" despite how Unleashed probably has the highest budget and most amount of polish out of any Sonic game before Frontiers.
I'm not saying that a port won't ever come, in fact I think it's very likely considering Sega recently has shown Sonic's history a greater deal of respect, even with games like 06 like making new art of Elise, adding Mephiles to the mobile games, and giving 06 an entire section in the 30th Anniversary Symphony alongside Unleashed. It's just that either Sega is unsure about its potential or they just don't have the time or resources to do it right now.
"Is it really that bad?"
I want to point out that sega has not once ever given us a remix of (And rarely ever reuses):
Marble Zone
Spring Yard
Labyrinth
Star Light
Scrap Brain
Excluding the versions for stuff like Sonic Genesis, and we finally got something at the Sonic Symphony, and I'm PRETTY sure its for this reason. They make an exception for Green Hill, simply because it would be weird for them to not do so for the first sonic stage, and the stage they keep bringing back over and over again
That's a really interesting theory of yours. I never even thought about a licensing issue
How does sonic unleashed/generations use both the havok and hedgehog engine 1, is one of them just for models and the other for how the game works?
Correct. Hedgehog Engine is purely a graphics engine while Havok is a physics engine
@@SFproductions1 ah ok Thankyou
Honestly i agree with everything you said, if they make a port of the game, they should take their time
Sonic Unleashed Port/Remake
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i mean rn we are going to have sonic gen remaster sooooo????? can u answer me?
Sonic Unleashed could be remastered. SEGA is making a remaster of Sonic Generations so if that is possible. Then the Unleashed port is also possible.
I think they might remaster unleashed next since we getting generations
@@iatepacman745 tru
Endless possibility is actually on Apple Music now
Now that generations is getting a remake, I’m hoping unleashed does too, it could fix the few issues the game has
The reason I bought a Xbox series x was to play unleashed at 4k60fps and it was definitely worth it, best way to play the game imo 👍
IS it 4k? I thought it was only 60fps @ 720p.
@@ThePreciseClimber yes it is 4K on the series x and 1440p on the series s
Nope, it's still sub 720 on series x.
It only ever got an fps boost, not a resolution boost.
@@IchigoLazer u sure? I played the game in 4k
@@Sb129Gaming the TV resolution will state 4k for pretty much any game.
Sonic unleashed ran at about 640 x 640. If you look at the game, especially next to Generations, you'll see that it was not updated to run at a higher res.
I grew tired of trying Unleashed on both the RPCS3 and Xenia Emulators. It was nothing more than a headache inducing experience.
Although I'm still grateful for the ability to play it on my Series X along with some of my favorite 360 games on 60 fps.
At this rate, I think the only way this game is getting a port in any capacity is if it's decompiled by fans, though it'll be a while before that might ever start, let alone be completed.
I've had my thoughts on why. But you just made it plain and simple.
Im just glad to own it on my series s and i pray to god that sonic unleashed doesnt get lost to time.
I played SONIC UNLEASHED since 2019 on my Uncle's PS4 via PS NOW and I was stuck through 1 airplane level and never played it again, however on June 5th, 2023, I obtained a copy of UNLEASHED (cuz some people are calling it as the best sonic game due to it's gamplay and story) and played it on an actual XBOX 360. I managed to get through those airplane levels plus going back to scramble for sun and moon metals, and let's not forget about Eggmanland cause I just beat the level in under 43 Minutes plus more werehog Torture. and finished the game on June 15th 2023.
Well sonic x shadow generations is coming out soon now sooooo what could be said about unleashed?
Should be noted that Sega has ported other Havok engine games in fairly recent times.
i tried playing this on my pc which is decent and it crashes every time and when i searched it up its the same problems to others
"Don't rush out a project or draw 25 cards"
Sega with like the entire UNO deck:
So if I'm understanding it correctly, then today, in 2024, there is a chance at least. The main point was the Havoc Engine license which Unleashed and Generations uses. A Generations port/remaster with Shadow was announced in 2024. So does this mean there is a chance now for Unleashed?
So wait, the current voice of Chuck E. Cheese worked on the Sonic Series?
WAIT WHAT
Welp, the Generations remaster happened, so I guess an Unleashed remaster is quite possible now.
0:25 wait which stages run at 60FPS? I’ve never played the PS3 version.
Cool Edge Day and.... I think there's one more I can't remember 🤔
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3. Sonic Lost World Deluxe on Nintendo Switch, PS4, PS5, Xbox One, Xbox Series X/S and PC
4. Team Sonic Racing - Angry Birds Update
5. Sonic Adventure Deluxe on Nintendo Switch, PS4, PS5, Xbox One, Xbox Series X/S and PC
jaret said that hes fine with them using endless possibility, its some copyright issue with some other artist that also worked on endless possibility.
Im Sad if We Never Get A Port. This is Easily Top 3 Games
Aw man! I was hoping for more DLC characters like *Shadow* …..
but it does run above 1080 on series?
Nope. Still 720p stretched out to 4k to fill up modern displays. I think a lot of people forget that the game still runs through backwards compatibility, it's not a port
I also heard they might have lost the source code. But I don't know if it's true.
"generations can't get a next-gen port"
sonic x shadow generations : let us introduce ourselves
Depending on how Sonic x Shadow Generations turns out, it could be the sole reason that Unleashed does end up getting a remaster after all. If Sega uses Havok again for SxS Generations then perfect, if not then it will still be fine assuming the game doesn't suffer the same fate as Colors Ultimate. Either way, if SxS Generations turns out to be a success I would hope that Sega looks to Unleashed next.
well since generations is now being remastered along with new shadow content, that makes some of these points invalid
Could u make an update to this video because of sonic x shadow generations? Cuz that’s getting a “remaster” (if you can call it that cuz it looks exactly the same)
I mean the video would pretty much be the same so idk
@@SFproductions1 well it might be using the havoc engine so…
I feel like another little reason they wont do it is because sonics voice in unleashed was different he was voiced by jason griffith so yeah it would be a lil confusing and i dont think sega is willing to release a remaster game like sonic colors ultimate but onr with jason voice unless they récord all sonics lines again with rogers voice but fuck that
Reasonings like this forget that Sega of China literally brought the SA games to Steam during the 2010s. Why would Ryan confusing new fans be any diffrent from Jason confusing new fans?
I have a series x and I still sometimes drop down to 30 fps
I have a series s and it stays at 60 consistently not dropping once
If Unleashed did get ported over it would be nice
Nice to complete the game for a 4th time cos of how much i adore this game
Now that Sonic Generations it's going to get a remaster, and it's made in-house by Sonic Team, there is literally NO WAY they can't port Unleashed, NO EXCUSES.
They ported the shitty game of Lost World to PC, so the reception is not an excuse.
SO WHAT'S THE DEAL SEGA... WHAT'S THE DEAL!!!!!
This is the sonic game I really want remastered I've had the PS2 version and the PS3 version it's great. This game holds a special place in my heart. This was the very last sonic game was very very excited to play. It also had the best SONIC trailer ever. If anyone gets the chance which the high Europe trailer that was the best
wait havok isn't wolfenstein 2009 also on that engine?
What if one reason could also be just the voice actors? Most ports/remasters we’ve gotten nowadays are from the classic era or solely the Roger era and if there’s a contract with the older voice actors and their games then it’d make sense considering Generations is getting a remaster(even tho Shadow Generations is clearly gonna have different physics from the Og)
Good job on the video. I would love for this game to be ported over. But who knows, just maybe in the future.
One thing to note though, i believe (if im not mistaken) that Unleashed runs at 4k 60FPS on the Xbox Series X.
It does not. The game still runs at 720p upscaled to 4k for modern displays. It doesn't run at 4k natively sadly
@@SFproductions1 I knew that, thats what I meant 😅
Tbf, that is basically 4k visuals for the purpose of playing the game. If they made it run in native 4K, then it would look way worse because the textures were not made for that.(Source: SA games on Steam being HD, but not using HD textures, lmao.)
No no no its still 720p quality but just stretched out to fill up 4k displays. it still looks like 720p. sorry i shouldnt have said upscale
@@SFproductions1 Oh, yes. That's really bad, yeah.
After those 10 month sonic generations got a remastered with a shadow extension so seeing a sonic unleashed remastered might be possible if they want to remaster it then probably they will wait on sonic birthday
Hopefully most of Sonic's games like Unleashed can get a remake soon, because a lot of them are on older hardware like secret rings, black knight, the advance trilogy and the rush trilogy. The only ones we've seen get remaster on current gen hardware is Sonic colors.
i dont think a remaster is entirely out of the question, but i think they may just rerelease it on PC like lost world if they can, if not they might have to do a remaster just for the physics engine
Doesn’t sonic unleashed on the xbox series run at 4k?
Nope
I kinda of a theory where when Sega remasters/remakes a Sonic game they try to one up it. Like Shadow x Sonic generations with a whole new campaign and Sonic origins is the classic games rebuilt. So they might be trying to find a way to one up unleashed, Heros, adventure 1/2 or 06
Isn’t the game engine is Hedgehog engine and not Havoc?
Hedgehog engine is the lighting engine
Unleashed doesn't need a remaster. All it really needs is a port with some upscaled textures, and an entire remaster isn't necessary to do that.
2:56 actually SEGA has a good relationship with Havok’s owners which is Microsoft. I don’t see why Microsoft would have a problem with SEGA using it. 😅
its not that simple unfortunately
Wait, Microsoft owns Havok? I legit didn't know, lol.
Hmm, also sonic forces is credited for using the havoc engine but frontiers no, so they changed engine recently?
It makes sense considering that Frontiers has completely different physics
They certainly did.
sad if that's true. I would personally love remasters to both generations and unleashed or even definitive editions that combines both versions of generations and unleashed into one awesome package. But only time can tell.
Sonic Heroes actually would probably be easy to bring to PC I'm assuming, since it got an official PC release with physical copies back in the day. I'm kind of a noobie when it comes to that stuff so idk but I'm assuming since it already exists on PC it would just be a matter of simply optimizing the application to run well on modern systems and OS, right?
Pretty much but the engine it used, Renderware, is now owned by EA, making it hard for a rerelease
@@SocksFCThere should be memes about EA holding Shadow hostage.
@@SocksFCPersona 3 Portable and Persona 4 Golden are still RenderWare, and SEGA ported them on PC and consoles.
Also, GTA Trilogy: The Definitive Edition runs on a weird hybrid of RenderWare and UR4.
I only played on the 360 and it ran at 30 fps and the lag was really bad during Jungle Joyride
Interesting video! You have pretty good points 🤔
Glad you enjoyed
Hey SF, it seems like someone got really inspired by your content! I stumbled upon a video titled 'Por qué Sonic Unleashed NO PUEDE ser remasterizado' that appears to be a direct copy of yours. Just wanted to give you a heads up. Greetings!
Thanks for letting me know!
Considering the xbox series consoles got multiple patches to enhance the framerate, I don't think they would remaster it anyways, but a port is still possible. All Sega would have to do is sell Sonic Unleashed on the ps5 store and make a physical ps5 version (ps5 can't play ps3), and for the xbox version, just slap a "Xbox Series X/S enhanced" sticker on the packaging for physical copies
Unleashed is basically the next Sonic 3 in terms of getting a port:
1. The game doesn't get ported in a long time.
2. Fans start BEGGING for a port with no luck.
3. Eventually fans remake the game.
4. Sega releases a mediocre port shortly after the fan remake releases.
6. The fans hate Sega's port due to it being unpolished.
7. The fan port becomes the definitive way to play the game.
The best way I found to play unleashed on pc is on the ps3 emulator you can actually play the game from star to finish but still the frame rate is still the same and sometimes it freeze not as frequently as the 360 emulator tho.
I think I heard that Sega lost the source code for Unleashed.
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Sonic Unleashed is a game I’ve been begging to try out but its been stuck on older consoles and i only have a PlayStation and Nintendo switch but I ain’t going buy a whole new console for one game, I’m hoping i can play it some day but i might try to emulate it instead
Sonic generations is getting a port, so at least we know havok isn't the problem, im hoping during a sonic central it could be announced
if Sonic x Shadow Generations is a success and is good then I have faith on an Unleashed remaster. Maybe with more refined controls but still feeling like Unleashed and not Generations.
What I’ve heard is that they legitimately lost a decent chunk of the files. I can’t remember where, but that’s what I heard
Sonic Generations is still on digital storefronts like Steam lol; Havok licensing is not an issue.
Unleashed most likely won't get remastered for the same reason it was delisted from PSN/XBLA in the first place: low review scores.
Renderware remasters keep coming out all the time so I'm not sure what you mean by "defunct" since the rightsholders continue licensing the engine out