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thanks I'm not the only one! Did a check of all my audio devices^^
I have the Rodecaster Pro 2, and would suggest the newly released Duo if you do not need 4 XLR/line inputs - the Duo has 2, which might be plenty for most streamers.
RCP 2 for the win going forward
Wondering if the RODE Streamer X would be a valid alternative, too. And agree, the RCPII is banging, the Duo looks solid too.
Duo would have been nice if it had a line in channel for something like consoles
I bought the Rodecaster Duo to replace my GOXLR and it's a beautiful little machine the sound quality is noticeably better than the GOXLR, I know it's a subjective statement. However I did return the Rodecaster Duo and went back to the GOXLR for one simple reason, the Rodecaster can't do submixes and that was deal breaker for me. Rumour on the street is that will be fixed in the very near future with a patch according to the Rode Software development map.
@@johnqcanadiantoo4174 They got submixes awhile ago. They have it under routing in the menu.
Roland BRIDGE CAST !!! It's a musical instrument maker, and the sound is good! It is convenient to have 4 channels of loopback.
Roland Bridge Cast is also a great device to replace the go xlr
Saw your tweet, was disappointed. I always used to recommend GOXLR to my clients. Razer Mixer has few bugs which are still not addressed yet since it release. I appreciate you taking time and releasing the video in 8 hours from the post. You have always helped me in ways you cant imagine. Thank You
More reasons we need to have companies to build their software/firmware in mind in that if they ever closeup/go under then open source software can replace it.
Probably won't happen till the EU mandates it, but would be a huge proponent to stopping unnecessary e-waste, while also getting more people in to programming and modding.
This. I still have some fantastic firewire interfaces that I keep around because I love the preamps on them. But dead driver support means I have to plug them into another interface just so I could use them. Which sucks because a couple of my older interfaces have motorized faders, full transport controls and all the bells and whistles.
this is not profitable and will not happen
@@wigglerlesbian how is it unprofitable when the company closes up or goes under? Like unless they're bought out or sell off their IP, they're going to the grave and not making money anyways.
That's too bad. The GoXLR is my favorite device for streaming.
It had a solid place in the markrt
@@EposVox I have no issues at all with mine. Everything works perfectly. I'll continue to use mine untill it no longer works.
The RCP2 that you recommend doesn't have nearly as good of audio routing capabilities according to one person I know who has used both devices.
As far as I know nothing else on the market has such good audio routing. The GoXLRs audio routing table should be a standard UI on all similiar type devices imo.
@@AnthonyGoodley I own both and i still love the GoXLR more because of the fact that you only need one usb cable for all 4 mixers where as with the RCP2 you need to connect two usb-c cables to your pc just for the same functionality, on top of that I've had issues with the RCP2 randomly disconnecting or sometimes my mic would stop being detected.
I'm going to be honest I have an updated the software for it in years it does exactly what I needed it to do
I'm still really happy with the Avermedia Nexus tbh. Especially since they added a routing table. Been getting consistent updates too. Does everything I want, and works as a solution for 2 PC setups too. I feel like it got a bad rap on launch. The Stream Deck+ has some unbeatable value for anyone wanting to use their own interface or a USB mic too.
I need to check it out again
Have they fixed where you have to go to two different places for one channel and its sub mix to change the volume?
@@UnknownReverence Ever since i first owned it, i set a button to change between creator and audience mix. Id press the button, change whatever audio levels i want to audience mix (and its monitoring in the headphones so I can hear how it sounds to the audience as im making the changes), then press the button to switch back to creator mix and all is well. Its easy.
I have it also and I love it, but some stuff really annoy me; like compressor on it is really trash, there is no limiter whatsoever, EQ is fairly good, but no options for custom Hz, so for some music recording or else it's pretty basic.
Also it could be I don't know how to set it up properly, but I either sound compressed as hell, or to low volume with still clipping somehow on sm7b
The PreSonus Revelator IO24 becomes totally useless after updating to the latest firmware. It has so many annoying problems, like the phantom power shutting down after a reboot. Even though they released an update recently, it's still a mess and has major issues, such as the last active preset getting reset every time you reboot it.
I put a few tickets in with them. They acknowledged it but didn't say others were having the same issue. Just advised to roll back the software and drivers. Which I did. Still no new update with a fix though. Frustrating.
I have been using the Wave XLR with the Rode Podmic for about 4 months now and it is great. Picked up the Stream Deck + a little over a month ago and it has been game changing.
Question if I purchase the wave xlr and I connect my rode PodMic , how do you use your headphones like where do you have your headphones connected and what kind a headphones do you have ? I don’t know too much about this
@@Xmatador20 there is a port for headphones on wave xlr. . .with 3.5mm jack
It's mad that official support for a product so expensive can just... end. Welcome to 2023, I guess!
I bought the Rodecaster Pro 2 as a replacement of my GoXLR a month ago to have the possibility to plug instruments and do some new stuff on my streams. I am not disappointed. It's really a good device, but it's quite expensive (but if you do the math of all the things it can do, that's not really the case).
Unless you are using all 4 mic inputs it´s waste of money and there are interfaces that comes along with pluging in instruments, that are made for it, Rodecaster was not made for it but is possible.
@@luk7n List the interfaces you recommend, then.
@@ChaseFace the Rodecaster Duo! Its functionally the same just smaller and 200 bucks cheaper. You lose some inputs and whatnot but its still more than enough for the average user
I don't know how people are using the Rodecaster as a GoXLR replacement without some major compromises. Only 3 USB audio devices (and you have to use up TWO ports on your PC). Whereas with GoXLR, you had 5 USB audio devices. The upgrade path just isn't there if you want to keep it similar to your GoXLR setup.
Don't really understand why behringer does'nt weighs in with a "streaming-specialized" product. I use a Xr18 for years, works great just need a reduced and more user friendly version.
I would love to see what you think of the Roland Bridge Cast. It seems very promising as something that could replace a GoXLR.
Ditto
I’ll still be using the goXLR it’s not like you can’t use it. And it has already gotten the updates we needed. So I don’t understand why people say rip
Well, for example. Say windows makes a big update or has windows 12. There is no guarantee that the GoXLR will work with windows being updated
Someone didn’t finish the video
Can anyone help me understand why this means the GoXLR is dead? Why would this piece of hardware need software support updates to stay fully functional and "alive?"
Don't buy revelator! Hardware is good, sort of. But software is trashier and buggier with each update. 2+ years, they can't fix settings saving issue after pc reboot.
Picked up a Rodecaster Duo and it is not a replacement for the GoXLR. The sliders/faders are assigned to a USB input. Which means you can't control your game, system, music, voice chat, mic volume, individually. The only workaround I was able to find is to connect a second usb-c from PC to Rodecaster Duo and assign my music to that input. So my music was controlled by that fader, and everything else was controlled by the other fader. Ulltimately I ended up returning the Rodecaster Duo because it just missed the mark.
It was too expensive and when completing solutions appeared, the prices should have been lowered.
Wow lol... I use this thing heavily.. so this sucksssss
Opps! The GOXLR is ALIVE and well. Updates are back and being released by the Denmark Team.... YaHoo
The RODE Duo and Streamer X just came out too.
GoXLR was ahead of its time but didnt keep up as others copied and added more. I remember in 2018 it was gamechanger but now jsut a oversized box i use only as xlr mic host
Sad news.... make a video review over M-Game, please. Thanks
I'm supprised that you do not mentionned the Roland Bridge Cast, i bougth one nearly 3month ago to replace my GoXLR, and it is realy good.
I love my Presonus IO24 coming from GoXLR: The IO24 has Monitor outputs so I can hear good music without headphones. Great inexpensive hardware sounds great and yeah less expensiv then a Wave XLR. I wait for Rode Streamer X and roadcaster duo MK2 versions.
Having a single xlr input is the issue, sound guys like me with 2 nice mics set up for online radio or interviews, we want 2 xlr channels for mics like every Dj mixer. Rode caster pro 2 has too many coloured buttons for my liking, I prefer broadcast mixers but they’re Uber expensive all over 1200 euros to 15k. That razor looks nice but again just a single xlr.
Would love to see a review about the new Roland Bridge Cast.
It seems like a great GoXLR alternative with a lot of physical control.
My wife just bought the damn thing!
I have been using the Rodecaster Pro 2 and I am one of the ones that swear by it. LOL. I have 2 pc's and a ps5 connected to this thing and it has severely simplified my setup. Gaming console does not work properly if you connect it with a usb-c. You will have to get an audio extracter at least for the PS5 and a balance 3.5mm to 2XLR Male Stereo cable and connect it to 2XLR female ports on the RC2. Great thing is you can combine the 2 ports to 1 knob on the device through the software and is very easy to do. Great thing is you do not need a hum destroyer to get the noise out. This works very well for my 3 device setup as I do not have to switch cables or do anything extra. With all the audio features to process the sound the way I want it connected to my sub and 2 studio monitors, it is like i was in a new world that I was missing out on. LOL
I'm still on my Babyface.
Any suggestions on the best 2 pc setup for the Wave XLR? Willing to grab the Stream Deck + as well.
It's strange that you didn't mention the "Rodecaster Duo" that runs at exactly the same price as the GoXLR and the new FIFINE AMPLIGAME SC3 that runs around $50.00.. I know you haven't reviewed them but would really like your input on these devices..
Honestly today is the first I’m hearing of the Duo. Fifine mostly makes junk so I don’t bother recommending them most of the time
Can we get a update on this
Been using the Revelator IO24 with the Stream Deck+ and MV7. Its been great, the only sore point is the IO24 and some of the quirks in the software interface. If you set it and don't mess with it, its fine. However it had a great tendency to seemingly revert settings which is frustrating. When I get tired of it ill most likely step up to the Rode line of products.
People should also take a look at the Yamaha AG08 too, as a GoXLR alternative.
I might be a little bit bias here, as I helped getting the opensource GoXLR Utility working on Windows (yes, the windows version is the port from the Linux one).
I would say, use the stable firmware, it should be possible to flash back if your on the beta. I don't think the firmware will be opensource, and there is some encryption when flashing, making it hard to reverse engineer without support from tc-helicon.
For the opensource GoXLR Utility, the device has never been more alive. Everything is controlled through an API, that means that everything you can do from the app. A plugin can also do.
So now it's theoretical (until a plugin exists) possible to control the device from not only Stream Deck, but also OBS and similar. And you will also be able to use multiple plugins (not like the official one that was limited to just one).
The opensource version also a lot better when it comes to accessibility, and can now be used by blind or visually impaired people.
For the Windows version, it does require the official tc-helicon drivers (Linux and MacOS does not). And you cannot run it at the same time as you run the official GoXLR App (as the official one gets confuced and crashes).
All in all... the device has been "dead" before, and only time will tell if this is the case for now.
However... I understand the skepticism as there is basically just one developer on the opensource version at this point. I would suggest all that starts using the free opensource version to consider sponsor the developer (I do monthly), but that's not a requirement.
What? how? I'm sorry for your loss.
So, I should return the GoXLR that arrived from Amazon today...or, should I keep it, since legally it would need to work through the end of its 3 year warranty period and the company would be responsible for a solution if it failed during that period 🤔
Actually just got around to upgrading to XLR recently and got the Yamaha ZG01 as my interface. Super solid and has the more basic overall features you could ask for and then some with the HDMI switch that pulls surround sound audio.
no audio splitting which is critical for content creators/streamers
@@ArthurTully It does split the audio though. Full separate channels with individual mixing dials for voice and game.
If anything the main problem is what most everyone points out in that it's a brand new mixer with only HDMI 2.0
All I'd love is an XLR interface with the ability to run custom VST plugins on the device. I know that would require additional hardware because they wouldn't be able to run on the DSP as most of the time that's quite specialized hardware, but just adding in what is effectively a microcomputer with just the capabilities of running VST plugins, even if limited to just a couple and under a certain size, would be very nice. It's often necessary to still add further effects to a voice other than just the typical noise gate, EQ and compression provided on most DSPs. Not that running a couple VST's cause that much work for the PC, but it's not completely negligible if you're already close to bottlenecked.
For the Rodecaster Pro 2, they have released the Duo recently which is 2 XLR ports instead of 4 and 4 faders instead of 6. It's $200 cheaper at 499 instead of 699, still on the high end but you still get all the features as long as 4 physical faders and 2 XLR ports are enough.
The Avermedia Nexus is getting better with each update, I still find it lacking a bit from what I've seen.
As for the Beacn Mix and Mix Create I agree that most of the functionality can be achieved with a Streamdeck+ if you have one, however you'd need to find a separate solution for a routing table. the Routing table in Beacn software is in my opinion the nicest to use routing table I've seen in a software yet, and hopefully other companies take note of how intuitive and easy it is to use without lacking flexibility, I just seriously, seriously wish they have just added an XLR port to it, the idea of getting it alongside another interface is a bit silly. For USB microphones it would be fine, but for XLR setups you need an XLR interface along with the Mix. Honestly I wish they'd just release a version of the Mix Create that basically just took the internals from the Beacn Mic and connected it to XLR instead of the analog signal directly from the capsule, it'd be nice to use the Beacn software and features (for example the noise removal, not noise gate, which I haven't seen really anywhere else) on any XLR microphone.
Wave XLR let’s you run VSTs
@@EposVox I meant on the device, not just in the processing chain. I like how interfaces with built in DSP's help to offload the processing off your device. While the Wave XLR allows you to run VSTs prior to the sound being emitted to the output, those VSTs as far as I can tell run locally, not on the device, meaning the processing takes up CPU resources. I'm just saying I'd like a device that allows you to upload VSTs to the device and have the device run a VST host that processes the audio before being sent to the PC.
Compared to DSP which is designed to be very fast, effectively running highly optimized simple math on a stream of data with very little latency between input and output, VSTs can be quite intensive sometimes and may introduce a sizable amount of delay, so it most likely wouldn't be able to be monitored effectively without hearing the delay.
Wtf it's the most popular device family of its category and it seemed like streaming is big business.
I was just thinking when you'd upload again and my god you did
So happy you're fixing the audio errors with the Mac, this video is riddled with pops and clicks...
Wow great video thank you for this!! I am specifically looking for something that is known for its low latency. I just want to ensure the audio coming from my gaming PC and going into my headphones (which i imagine will be connected to my mixer) is as close to real time as possible. What do you suggest?
Wow, that was a close call, i was looking in the market for a new interface and was thinking about the boxer but wanted something that was a bit smaller but i was very close just to buying it, so I dodged a bullet on that one.
Voicemeeter Potato with a AKAI MidiMix Mixer. My only complaint is the driver is unable to be used on multiple programs at once, so if you wanna use some of it with obs and some with voicemeeter you have to setup a relay program. Which AKAI would update this.
I would not recommend any other audio interface that doesn´t have features like the GOXLR, the only interface that can surpass it is Rodecaster Duo, which costs 500$, I am surprised that you don´t know about this unit, Razer dogsh*t no, waste of money, Elgato Wave yeah, great as interface doesn´t have mixer, unless you buy streamdeck but it is not that pretty and doesn´t have such a high quality audio, avermedia nexus not even try. I mean how can you recommend a replacement for GOXLR something that doesn´t even touch his legs? Rodecaster Duo is the only replacement for it and that´s it.
how do I make a copy for the installer/firmware updater like you mentioned? would that be somewhere in my program files? Definitely want to future proof as much as possible.
Just download from their website
voicemeeter potato + Korg nanoKONTROL2 works like a dream. although obviously a rather different solution to a lot of these products.
Bought a rodecaster 2. Hated it. Sound was horrible. I couldn't get any help for routing. Sent it back. Got the goxlr back. Now this new. Crap.
I went with a medium-sized analog mixer (Mackie 1402VLZ4) instead of a GoXLR because I was concerned about losing software support someday, among other things. Glad I did.
dont forget the newest rode products. they're actually insane and literally the same price, if not cheaper, than the Goxlr. Rodecaster duo & streamer X are like their biggest ones
GoXlr should legit open source everything they have, their clients deserve to be able to have that kind of thing especially since they paid so much money on a product that promised alot and didnt deliver.
What didn’t GoXLR deliver on that it promised on?
@@Ginjah Their software isnt even out of beta yet. It still has alot of bugs.
@@AviatorXD The stable, live release has virtually 0 bugs that affect usability. And the beta that adds submixing is also very stable.
I know a lot of these kinds of mixers/interfaces have features that streamers and creators love, but I've always found the interfaces offered by established companies with a track record and history of quality audio engineering hardware design and making to be much better performance wise such as quality preamps and much more reliable. I went with an Audient iD14 mk2 a year ago and have no regrets. It lacks some of the not really critical fluff style features of streamer style mixers, but it's got a damn good preamp and has been solid, plus cost less. I wish GoXLR users the best, but a healthy level of suspicion for new companies and products can help save future headaches
😢 my hopes for a dry wet nob for vocal effects has just died. I wish the goxlr would have continued support for many years. Sad to see a solid audio interface not be supported.
I use Deckboard app (its free) and Arturia Minifuse 2 interface for mic. GoXLR was too expensive and too big for my table. Your recommendations for Razer, Elgato and especially Rode (for 700€ :O) .... come on, you know that those are overpriced stuff. Elgato is overpriced, Razer is just garbage rebranded AliExpress stuff, Rode is for professionals.
I hate it when companies don't release source code that's not gonna be used. I know it's an "asset" that can be sold to potential buyers, but still.
Lesson learnt, won't buy anything of that company ever again! It's not cheep and they just stop upgrades or at least maintenance just like that...
... I just bought mine on Amazon prime day... I just got it...TODAY.....
I have been using the RodeCaster Pro 2 since it was released. It is awesome!!!
Sad, its the best everything else is really "you get this but not this, you get that but not that" and goxlr had no trade offs. Easy to turn my ps5 on and have it running on one device with my pc discord etc. Just an amzing product.
Buy a UAD Apollo TwinX Quad if you've the budget. If not, get a Midas MR18.
Meybe there is posibility to see you doing review of this thing? I kinda looks promising, just not can’t find value review
I valued having the built in sound pad a little more than submixing so what I ended up picking up recently just with how approachable the cost was compared to the GoXLR was the Zoom Podtrak P4. Also being a podcaster, I can also enjoy having the built in recording functionality on top of 4 XLR ports each with phantom power and the ability to link my phone as an input and output as a USB interface.
Man am I ended up selling mine. I got it at release but quit streaming shortly after. Almost kept it, but posted on eBay and auction ran up to about $1K
I know this will get lost in the comments but here are some answers for those of you worried: I spoke to the SweetWater rep, who works close with TC Helicon and their company and I brought this to his attention. He spoke with the guys at TC Helicon and its not as extreme as this video puts out. They still have support and development for all of their products, including GoXLR, they did have a few offices close up in Canada, but not ALL of development and support. They will be moving forward with it for some time still, of course until the next model comes out of the GoXLR. So for those of you that are worried, you don't need to be 😁 hope this clears some air for people.
The entire team that actually designed and made all of the original TC/TC-Helicon products are gone. Music Tribe still has the brand and has people under it, but don’t expect much.
Damn thats rough. But thanks for the update
welp thanks for the awesome product even though mine has it's 3.5mm jack break down twice within 1 year of use.
But quick question though, does anyone really removed their protective film?
Not meeeee
Its time to compare budget av1 codecs? rx7600 x 4060 x a750?
Razer mixer is garbage for the price, preamp is subpar, the software is trash
and people was thinking i'm crazy i went with the razer mixer instead of this trash lmao gonna laugh at some people now XD
The sad news is my software is in japenese.,..and I cant use it
Shame. I was planning to upgrade my traditional Mackie mixer to it. Incidentally the new Mackie DLZ looks interesting as a replacement and hopefully you can take a look at it as well.
Had a feeling this news was coming sooner or later. :(
Lewitt Connect 6 and Beacn Mix Create here, both of them have been pretty good for me so far.
I’m playing with the Lewitt soon, stoked for it
The Rodecaster is amazing, but it is overkill for most people. However, they have now released small versions which are more akin to the GoXLR in terms of price that may be worth visiting
I love to work/contribute on GoXLR open source ...
I feel like this is a weird video considering that the Go-XLR is still amazing hardware thats yet to be matched for its price and feature set. Like if you need what the GoXLR can do there is still nothing like it. I understand that the fear of lack of software support sucks but ive seen projects centered around less popular products go a lot futher. Honestly I have a lot more faith in it now that the software is open source, than a year ago.
My only concern is the firmware, which hopefully they would consered making open source too. Its a big ask given the discord post but you never know. This is a story we dont know the ending too and to asume the worst rather than hope for the best idk.
The video came across more like the obituary in the news paper rather than an appreciation of what the product was. It really was a one of a kind thing, this lighning in a bottle that got the short end of the stick due to basically no markeing. The community has held out for something that can replace it, thats why the hype behind beacon was so high only to come crashing down.
No hate, just the vibes came across extremely gloom and doom.
Well this explains why my mini hasn't gotten an update in forever.
They never made it available for Mac… can’t say we didn’t see that coming.
And today they announced their white model. Fire sale?
I use the Roland Bridgecast and love it.
not dead just no longer oficaly supported its now open sourse and still supported in that way the go xlr is still solid
Damn...welp, I guess that's the kick in the pants I needed to move on to the Wave XLR. I stopped streaming and making content a few years ago but the GoXLR was great for my remote work and the content I create in the context of my job. However, ever since I upgraded to Win 11, the whole thing turned...clunky. The Stream Deck plugin always needs a few restarts of the GoXLR app to kick in. Even the app itself seems to have a delay between switching profiles and them registering on the device. I've been itching to switch to a more software based solution and the Wave is perfect. RIP I guess....
it is currently a paper weight. newest windows update broke mine
wow this is crap paid big money for a product then tough we are no longer supporting our product .
I have the presonus it works on my Mac,iPad,pc
legit thought this was a clickbait post and advertising but damn, its true
Its on sale rn on amazon 56% off should i get ??
Guess i'm staying with my ag03 for just a lil bit longer lol
I love using my stream deck plus with my SSL2+ audio interface. IT'S PRETTY AMAZING. My rodecaster 2 sits on the side if i ever need it. With having both im covered.
I literally just bought mine wtf
What and excellent and very upsetting public service announcement. 6 months ago I started using Wavelink (Thanks to EposVox's videos) between my two PCs, I put my GoXLR back in its box and hadn't thought about it till now. Wavelink is a digital mixing board, It's 2023, I am not gonna go turn an analog knob on physical device like a freaking caveman. That being said I am still going to watch every product Mr.Vox gets his hands on... And possibly buy one... Balls in your court Rode. Lol.
I would've kept using a GoXLR if the USB-B wasn't so awful. I tried a couple different cables and none of them worked. Every time I went to the discord to talk about it, they never once blamed their own product and just suggested trying other cables. How could it be that even the cable supplied with the unit would not fit snug and cause it to disconnect if my desk made the slightest movement?
Either way, really happy with my Elgato Wave XLR. It is a much more stable product and even supports VST plugins through Wave Link. It is really great.
Weeeeell, Shiiiieeeeet. 🙃 That explains literally all of my conversations with anyone (formerly) on the GO XLR team back when I was trying to find out how to do Submixing. I'm glad I've had it for over a year at least. Still... that's an expensive purchase that I hope lasts a few more years before the software craps out.
why can't new products make it easy on console gamers (streamers) to route their party chat to a separate channel and easily route audio the way goxlr does?? literally the only reason I haven't gotten rid of it. i have the rcp2 but the table routing is hardly user friendly and doesn't allow chat audio to be separated even with their routing table that is only for use via USB. how hard is it to just clone goxlr routing app??
Wave XLR with stream deck plus