The UAD money loop of buying a 500+ dollar interface that runs UAD plugins while they only give you enough plugins to get you hooked. Then you find yourself buying 1000+ in plugins to justify your purchase of a 500+ dollar interface to run those plugins.
I did years ago. Spent $8000 on UAD plugs and PCI interfaces. But ever since I found out they were using sharc DSP chips I knew what the game was. Sharc are just x86 chips, and weak by any modern standards (of the last 15 years). A decade ago every year I would fill out their user survey comments section with "please just make the dsp's a dongle, I know the plugs can run native, stop limiting us to 3 plugins" (seriously when the neve 33609 can out we could only run 2 instances on a $800 card!!!!) Its took years of Slate and Softube kicking their ass until they finally gave in and go native (with subscription of course). I moved on years ago I ain't falling for it again. RME interfaces last decades can't fault them or their business model.
@@Dracomies If you would stop waving your hands around nervously, the camera would have a chance to focus. That nervous hand waving is also irritating to the viewers.
People flaming the video for imperfect filming are insane.. this is one of the most to the point informative videos by someone who actually knows what they’re talking about and nobody even realizes it 🤦♂️
I got my 3rd gen Scarlett 2i2 for $60 at a pawn shop. I feel like that's a perfect level. I see them all the time there so I pounced and everything sounds so much better than they did on my old interface
Exactly I swear these people are just mad they bought the “wrong” interface… there is no wrong interface for what money you have. You just have to make things work when they will… I’ve been using a Behringer UMChd404 since 2014 on Mac and PC and it works for me, only recently have I noticed the noise issues because I upgraded everything besides my interface. The Uphoria line is definitely better suited to live performance where noise floor is only as important as how quiet the venue is, and what kind of music/show is playing. For a jazz concert or a rock show it’s probably fine, but if your using it to mic a quartet playing classical with a lot of dynamic range, then most likely go for something a little less noisy and more robust. Home studio recording would be fine as well as long as it’s a noisy music type such as rap or rock, acoustic and a cappella will definitely be drowned by the noise floor… but this interface does monitor and output very high quality sound as long as the amp you are using can support high fidelity. I use it to drive analog sound to my home studio and theater… sucks it doesn’t have any type of digital output though such as optical or even HDMI… it does support analog quadraphonic which sounds great, probably one of the best DACS for quad mixing at that price point, especially since it supports quad channel at 192khz… you just have to find the correct drivers and make SURE you are not using any other sound drivers with it, a few sound drivers work well with the uphoria, such as asio, and digital cable for sound routing. It’s not stated by the manufacturer that this is more for old heads and advanced users rather than novice users, or streamers, or modern bedroom music makers (not hating, I started using this device as a novice bedroom beat maker- and have slowly turned into an old head that cares about quadraphonic, surround and analog mixing, due to this interface.) so really all of these devices have their own place in A STUDIO/EVENT, but that place is determined by the usage case and circumstances that the user finds themselves in, a scarlet 2i2 is great for traveling and or sampling, the the uphoria is great for tracking up to 4 tracks at a time in a super high res sample rate that can be later downsized without reducing quality or introducing to much aliasing. The maudio is good for a small collage or bedroom desktop set up… etc etc. I can go on and on about how none of these are trash… just trash in certain circumstances when not used in a manner that matches the design… especially for products intended to be used on apple platforms, that are trying to be used for windows, that just comes down to poor research, and not knowing the basics before you dive from the 50ft
The Apollo Twin starts at around 1000 Euros and comes with some decent Unison plugins for latency free tracking. I have an Apollo Arrow Thunderbolt version (was even cheaper) with a free plugin package and never bought any additional UA plugin - just added some 3rd party plugins for post production. Works great - no regret.
You're right! I remember the Arrow was the precursor to the current Apollo Solo USB. But yip I think where a lot of people can easily lose money is with the plugins, but you didn't fall in for that :D
please take this as constructive criticism. I think the information is lost in the filming style. First, the waiving devices around hurts the viewers eyes. Maybe set up cameras and show the device on a table, slowly moving around it not fast. Pointing at the interface thing you're discussing. Like when you're pointing out the solo microphone controls monitors maybe shoot role showing an example or just show the devices as stationary and you turning the knob. Second, the framing doesn't use half the screen the right side. Also the blurry background combined with the waving hands and device is off putting. my two cents.
You are 100% right. I really need to get a better camera, better camera logistics, better video editing, better camera positioning and get my videos done right. Thank you the heads-up!
People complaining about focus should instead be giving kudos for a glorious absence of music. How many videos I had to quit watching after just ten seconds...
Maybe your filming skills are not the best but : 1. You know what you're talking about 2. You are very clear and precise 3. What you said is true. Thanks for sharing your experience🥰
I absolutely love the Audient Evo series. The UI really clicks with me. The DI is really good, preamps are good, all the parameters of the interface can be controlled by the software as well and the hardware setting will be in sync with it live. The Loopback mixer is absolutely amazing. Nobody else offers that. The fact that none of the others in this comparison have that, make the others a no-go for me. It's just WAY easier to set-up streaming, online lessons etc. What I do not like about it is that the body is plastic; a side effect of which is that EMI sensitivity. I would have to definitely pay more for a metal one so I can't be complaining too much. I have made a mount for it so it lives next to the height adjustment control on my desk and it is on an angle, it's impossible to get a phone or something near it or coming out of it. This is a recent solution though and before I made that mount, I did get my phone near it and then it would make some noise and I would remember to move my phone away.
nice video! what mic are you using? and are there any post eq effects? if yes, how to make it sound so bassy and deep like yours? any good software recommendations?
Solo 4th gen and 2i2 4th gen have different pre amps. Solo is 58db max gain, and the 2i2 is 69db max gain. You will notice focusrite clearly lists the 2i2 gain in product descriptions, and on the Solo, you have to go into the detailed specs on their website to find it. Makes a big difference depending on the input devices you plan to use.
Great breakdown vid 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Here's my interface experience... Started with Native Instruments KA6 Mk1in 2011 used it up through 2022 when I went from MBP to Mac Studio. The KA6 was built like a tank, I loved it and will use it for mobile situations. My next interface was the MOTU M4 (USB-C) used it from March 2022 til Feb 2023. The MOTU just never grew on me, it's a great value unit from a really good company; I have it sitting in its box and need to get around to selling it. My current interface is the Antelope Audio Zen Q (TB) purchased in March 2023, I wanted a desktop unit with a big knob, great convertors, along with belonging to an eco-system of other units that would allow me to expand. I couldn't be happier with it! The one thing I don't like is the afx2DAW software which I find clunky. A friend pointed me towards OmniBus software and I find it to be really solid, well laid out and intuitive. I see myself adding an expansion unit to my ZenQ and growing this way.
I think, for now, not shaking the units so much while you're talking about them would help. I did like the information in the video, though, and it's cool that you can compare so many.
Disagree. Having good advice is rule #1. Pedant bullshit like focus, when I’m watching this vertically on mobile while reading comments, is basically worthless. I’m perfectly happy with the video.
i did not realize that the EVO 4 had EMI issues. I've been using evo 4 since launch, I heard pop so many times to the point where it wasn't usable and i thought it was my computer struggling. First year were good using it until i had driver issues. Audient support were able help me with troubleshooting. even with my beefy laptop the audient evo 4 still hearing the pop. I'm actually considering buying a SSL2 as my next interface. Thanks for this video and it really helped me out.
I also use it with the iPhone and live streaming. The Evo series look awesome on camera. Besides the quality, when you are running a one band show, audio, video, content and you are the talent on screen, simplicity is very very much appreciated. I had to choose between Evo8 and ID14 (which is better). Smart gain won me over (it is supposed to be a gimmick), but it can come in handy. You can't always monitor when creating content.
I recently got an Audient id14 mkii and I'm super impressed!! The pre-amps are crystal clear (for it's price), the headphone output can run both my 250ohm and 600ohm headphones, and I really enjoy the loopback feature since it gave me a way to stream audio in places where I couldn't and record a seperate mix in OBS that I made. I got it for 150 euros (i think the price is different for each country, since you mentioned that the id4 is listed at 200 dollars). The problem I had with focusrite were the drivers, I despise them, in comparison to the Audient drivers, my cpu had more load, meaning that in heavy projects I had to use a lot of latency, and I couldn't stream my whole PC because I would lose the audio of my DAW. The only workaround for that would be an app like VB Cables. In general it was a nice video mate!! Keep it up you gained a sub
Just saw your comment, that's a great price! Can I ask what eshop did you buy it from, if you bought it online? I usually see it sold for 200+ EUR everywhere, so I wonder if they just raised its price globally. If your eshop ships to other EU coutnries, it might be just cheaper to import it! :D
Great comparison. I've only used 2 interfaces, Mbox 2 with XP using Protools 7.3 and currently with Reaper on a Windows 7 machine, and a Presonus Audio Box USB96 on the Windows 10 computer. My criteria was for midi connectivity and mic/guitar/line input. All have separate volume knobs for headphones, line out (monitors) and line in (guitars etc). That has been a really useful feature. I have found the Mbox can be tweaked to compensate for latency (not bad for a 20 year old interface) while the Presonus cannot (at least to my efforts). I have recently acquired a second Mbox2 as I'm archiving older Protools files from an SSD with XP. The second hand market offers some cheap alternatives, and could be great for those using newish computers with older os and older daws. I would suggest researching what drivers the makers are offering before going this rout. Thanks for the post.
Yeah I've always been wary with Presonus interfaces. They're not known for doing great interfaces - at least I don't think so. I do hear nice things about their speakers though. But interfaces maybe aren't their jam. ie the blue Presonus Audiobox 96 (that had so many issues), the IO24 (kinda was a bust), the Audiobox Go (bested by other travel interfaces) etc.
I can't use my old Echo Gina24 (which I loved) because it's internal AND not even PCI so I bought a Behringer UM-4. Too bad I didnt see this first, because you are spot on. Headphone jack is dead. Noisy as heck. Big driver issues, especially in Linux. Luckily this is inspiring me to get. Thanks.
Hey, was curious on opions! im currently picking between the motu m2 and Behringer U-Phoria UMC204HD (under $200 with midi in/outs). Iv seen alot of people saying the motu m2 has alot of noise when using the monitoring but I really like it astheically. However if the $80 less id id have to pay for the UMC204HD isnt a major step down considering saving the money just going with that. I already have dac/amp (zen ifi stack) for everday use, so outside of monitoring I wont be using it for listening. My current plan is to just go with a shure sm57 and with the windscreen, so this might all be over kill but id rather future proof some. I know the UMC204HD wasnt directly mentioned but do you have experince with it and is it worth looking at over the motu m2?
@@Dracomies Much appricated! Im curious what your thought process is this on this one, just a much better all around product outta the motu m2 or is the 204HD just not very good? Is it just that the issues people have are QC and to get a replacement if you have the noise issues?
@@mdct77 So it’s a few things. So before I go on further please note that I do not have a Behringer UMC202HD or a UMC 204HD but spec-wise they are the same. If you watch this video here, you’ll see that the gain range of the UMC202HD is 51 decibels. The MOTU M2 is 60 DB. th-cam.com/video/uy4NknWXZT0/w-d-xo.html This is important if you plan to use the interface with gain-hungry dynamic microphones, ie the Shure Sm7B. The dynamic range of the UMC204 HD is much lower than those on the MOTU M2 and the headphone outputs aren’t as good either. (Layman’s terms you get louder output from headphones like HD6xx on the MOTU M2) Another thing to consider is that (if you look at the UM2) the drivers are no longer supported by Behringer. Behringer has questionable quality control. So if we were to look down the line, which company do you think would support their drivers, Behringer or MOTU? That said -- I have gotten people who had great things to say about the UMC series - but personally I'd rather go for the MOTU M2 over anything Behringer.
I loved my EVO 4 especially with promising features to beginners such as the Auto gain. Unfortunately, the EMI issues as you stated makes this extremely difficult to work with in small/compact setups.
i have the evo 4. You're right about the emi issues. I use a wireless mouse and it picks up the frequencies when i move it haha. Quite sure its just a shielding problem. The entire thing is just plastic, so it amplifies anything. The glaring issues about the big knob does everything is kind of fixed with the audient software for it. But at that point just get a different interface. Mostly bought it for driving my heavier headphones and using the mic input. For not being an audiophile this product is really user friendly in my opinion. I dont regret my purchase but would i buy it again? Probably not.
Whoa man! Just stumbled upon your microphone video and then this one and I must say I couldn't be more thankful to algo for recommending me your vid. It did help me just about when I needed it. Keep up the good work man 🙌
7 months ago I bought a Roland Rubix 24 and love this card. I'm very glad I didn't choose the Focusrite solo just because of the "hype" around it. Instead, I purchased a reliable interface. I am now using it with my Audiotechica ATH m40x and a RODE NT1 mic which works so well and without any audible noise from the unit, such a nice card ;)
I agree - I've found them to be unstable and stop and start working somewhat randomly (though not usually while it's in use). It's also often packaged as a bundle with cheap components
@@Dracomies i have been using the Gen 1 since maybe 2015ish.. I've had to replace the usb cable but besides that I haven't had any issues.. maybe i just don't know what I'm missing.. but if its just about those air/vintage modes, that doesn't feel like something i would want to be baked into the raw tracks..
It's moreso the self noise of the interface and the gain range and dynamic range. Lots of incremental changes. Not totally totally game-changing but quite a noticeable difference in noise between Gen 1 and Gen 3. @@MreenalMams
Scarlet 2i2 gen 3 is great, had it for years and no issues. I know what level to have it on and where to have the level on my daw and everything sounds great. Each to their own opinion. I think it's the person using the interface as much as anything..
hey great video! just wanted to ask if you found anything better in terms of portable audio intertface, i plan on recording guitar on the go. i use the usual drive sprectrum from super cleans to overdriven to high gain so one with super low noise is a priority and i'm on windows. would love to hear your thoughts, thanks in advance! i subbed btw because of how in depth you go into these things
I'd go with the F3. It's a bit larger than the AMS-22 but it has far better preamps but you also get 32 bit float recording and you do not need to use a computer with it. That said I'm not as knowledgeable about guitars.
I can agree on the fact that the evo4 is confusing sometimes with 1 knob and the random software issues that can occur. However, I got a professional setup for my significant other to use for work, including the evo4, and she NEVER has to adjust anything with the knob ever. Thankfully, it CAN be pretty "set and forget." Her earthworks icon pro always sounds great with it lol. So, for a very beginner or non-technical person, I can easily recommend the evo4!
Is there a problem with my audio interface(clarett+) ?Or has Focusrite Control been a problem for a long time? When using F CONTROL for the first time every day, the output options (speakers or headphones), when switching from Playback (DAW) to Custom Mix, the sound is skewed to the right, and I need to re-add the SOFTWARE (DAW) PLAYBACK ports to fix it.
I used an old 0404usb until 2023.. Figured I ought to upgrade my P.C, so 'upgraded' everything. I didnt like the sound of the Scarletts. Tried ssl for a week but ended up returning it and getting a Motu m4. Seems ok for now.
I love MOTU stuff! Of the interfaces sub $200 it's easily my favorite of the bunch. It's the most intuitive and easy-to-use interface. It just works! :P
looking to get one of these to just run my presonus eris 3.5 and its subwoofer, do these audio interfaces provide different output audio quality to the speaker? If so which would u recommend for my use case?
I don't have firsthand experience but my overall impression is that Claretts are great but for the price you definitely want to evaluate other options too. You might get what you're actually looking for at a cheaper price - or you might find something more premium if you pay a bit more - they're at a weird price point.
I have the previous version Clarett 4Pre USB interface. I record mostly drums with it, running it on Windows. Can't complain about it after over four years. And from what I read the + version is pretty much the same as mine with slightly improved audio quality.
Dude, I don't know what UAD did to you but you are giving bad information here, I had an Apollo Twin mk2 since Windows 7, now have a Apollo x6 with Windows 10, and in both cases ZERO issues, I say again ZERO issues with UAD Apollos and Windows PCs. Also, when you buy an Apollo you get a suite of plugins that are enough for any type of production, you can buy more if you want to, but you definitely DON'T have to buy anything at all, they can run with no plugins whatsoever if you so wish, they are not required. Again, I don't know what your beef is with UAD but your followers deserve to hear the truth.
"i dont like that" well dont buy the extra plugins that is running outside of your cpu then, it has nothing to do with the I/O of the interface that you initially was about to review... This whole video is stupid.
Great video. Justifications make sense. Lot of information. I understand it's off the cuff but pay attention to the speed of delivery/nervousness. It take away from a great advice video. Any experience on Linux? what would you recommand?
Thank you so much. And yip, I tend to talk really really fast. I need to work on that. I also bought a new camera today since everyone complained the camera angles were bad :D
@@Dracomies I listened and IMO you don't talk too fast. But I couldn't watch... your new camera may help, but I couldn't watch because you were constantly moving and shaking the products. Still, thanks for your planning and work on this!
Mackie Onyx Producer 2-2 USB Audio Interface works well under Linux. Be sure you install pavucontrol and open it before your recording software to set the input stream and lock the outputs and inputs. Its plug and play with newer kernels.
I love the Apollo. The quality is great you get free plug-ins I think $1300 worth of plug-ins off the bat That alone is worth it. I guess it depends on the quality of recording you want and the money you can afford to spend. I also have the Apollo solo on my laptop PC. No problems works great. And once again, you have access to plug-ins that actually sound very close to external hardware gear, which I own also. I’ve owned quite a few interfaces and I found out people are not just spending the money because they have it. There is a difference.
GOOOOOOOOD DAMN it why TH-cam recommended me this PIECE OF ART CHANNEL after I bought Rode mic with Focusrite interface. I wanted to buy the SSL interface but didn't do it. Man, I think YT is mocking me somehow😭.
Used rode mic with focusrite for a lot of years. It was good when I was a beginner but as you train your ears you’ll realize the quality isn’t really up there
@@Mychordchronicles I just got my Neumann last week, and I must say you're ABSOLUTELY wrong. The equipment plays a huge role, Rode mic had a weird low mid muddy sound as opposed to my new neumann which is pretty transparent and crisp
@@gliterott can u help me to decide what best audio interface that can make clean sound, i plan to buy xm8500 mic, but i dont know what audio interface that work good with my mic ? my budget is like $100
@@yoursupportsystems bro if your budget is 100 then look into M audio, it looks solid from the reviews but I’ve personally never used it. A better option would be saving up some more and going for a mid-ranged one. I’m currently using babyface pro fs btw and I can tell you that more you spend the better quality you’ll get for sure
@@gliterott If I have a budget that's just right, should I go for the M-Track Solo, or is it better to save up a little more to get the Focusrite Scarlett Solo 4th Gen ? I’m looking for the best quality audio possible.
I have had my EVO 4 since it was the only thing I could get during Spamdemic (no SSL in Oz) to replace my much-loved Balance interface. My EVO 4 is used every day for music & screencasts (Higher Hz reviews etc). It has been a super device with no issues at all. Sure it isn't designed to be a football as the case is bendable plastic - which makes it light for carrying. The audio has been perfectly clean. I wonder if people with interference aren't using cracked cables. The on-knob situation is unique but once you accept it, is dandy. Recorded a few clients with this with no stress. For a cheap interface, I always recommend this (along with the Behringer XM8500 mic). :-)
The preamps sound great. I remember when I first had the EVO4 I recommended it for quite some time. But yip the one knob drove me nuts after a while :P
I'm a huge RME fan and I really want to love the BabyFace Pro FS but I can't stand the arrangement of the inputs. They stick out on all sides, resembling some kind of medussa and making cable management a pain. I really wish RME would redesign it with all the IO on the back except maybe the headphones.
I'd kill for a partnership with RME and Zoom. Something with 32 bit float recording + RME Babyface preamps and capability + but Zoom's small size and simplicity.
I Had The BabyFace Pro FS As Well.. The BF Is Rock Solid But As You Mentioned I Didn't Like The Design/Layout And Arrangement Of The I/O So I Returned It Back To Sweetwater
Get the UCXii - it's exactly that. Super happy w mine and yeah the octopus setup on the babyface needs a lot of room but it's still far better among the set here.
I've been researching for months & here's where I'm at: a) If it's a budget issue, I would get the Behringer with the MIDAS preamps. Zero latency as well. b) If money is not an issue, then Audient id series. c) The 2nd option in the higher budget range would be the SSL.
I have a NI Komplete Audio 6. My problem is that its headphone slot is somewhat faulty. If you push the jack all the way, it won't have sound, you have to pull it a little bit to have sound. My other bigger problem with it is that i have to re-seat the USB slot every time i power the PC after a complete shutdown. A cousin of mine gave me an ART USB Dual Pre 2-channel Audio Interface / Preamplifier. But i can't find a compatible DC power plug for it yet. I'm curious to know if the ART ai doesn't have the re-seating problem i have with the NI ai? Any help, appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Hi @noiJadisCailleach, bummer you're going thru those frustrations. It's happened to me in parallel ways on many devices over the years. To solve your problem in this case, the main trick is to determine your cost-benefit situation (not just in $) between repairing vs replacing it. so for starters double check whether your interface is covered under NI's warranty policy. If so, then take that route. If not, unfortunately it's extremely unlikely that any pro audio repair tech would fix it for a price significantly lower than what the NI interface costs new. BUT if you have a friend who is can service it, or if you are eager to try to see if you can open it up and fix it yourself ... then maybe it'd be worthwhile. but beyond all that, the cost-benefit is also about how urgent or essential your need to keep making music or audio content .... and whether that's worth fixing even more immediately. If you do decide to get a different interface, check out the steinberg UR44 or UR242, which IMO offer way better value v $ than the interface you have. but what really matters most is to have a working device that you can use to create whatever content you've been dreaming up. so try not to let the tech road block get in the way of that .... still working on that advice for myself; but seems to be the way ...
@@toxo_wb Check out the Sennheiser HD6xx which is $199 USD. For speakers I'd go with the JBL 305 but that is only one speaker for what you're asking for when you'll need two. I don't recommend going cheaper than that.
It depends - but all of these interfaces should work fine for both of your stations. What sort of budget are you looking at? Is the size of the interface an issue or is portability important. I will add one bit of advice. Avoid 'streamer based interfaces' or those interfaces with too many buttons. Many of those have too many moving parts and break or have issues, ie the Presonus I024 (bust), the Rodecaster Pro (some problems rolling in), GoXLR (no longer supported and is dead). So stick to a dedicated interface - and most of those should work fine for your setup.
th-cam.com/video/N3vntwl3Utk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=0y_A6pr2Slx50Tav you wont find any better dualpc stream setup with optical audio transfer beteen both pc than this two rme
@@Dracomies The GoXLR support team has been reformed, albeit a smaller team. They did provide a beta software update on their official discord in Dec, It's nice to know that there is some form of support that has returned, so it is not fully dead which is nice.
I'll be buying studio monitors and the interface for the 1st time. So far I've had my eye on the SSL 2 interface and hoping to pair it with Adam Audio T7V's. It's within my budget. What I want to know is, am I better off with slightly cheaper gear if I won't be recording live instruments and songs? I'll only be making beats and most of all, improving my mixing.
I wanted to get the apollo solo for my windows laptop which has a thunderbolt port. And i already am using some UA plugins. Im torn between the Apollo solo, Volt 476p and SSL 12. Do the preamps and converters of the solo outperform their volt lineups? SSL sounds so good in all youtube videos. They are all similarly priced here in India. Please help!
Hi. I've been using universal audio Apollo's for a very long time. Here's the good and bad. The good. Universal Audio makes excellent, high quality products. Their plugins are top of the line. All the converters on the apollo's and volt's are very good. no issues there. The Bad. My concern with the Apollo solo or volt is that it has limited processing power meaning you can only run so many plugins at a time, especially in unison. Just a thought. If you really like UAD plugins take look at their native ones ( UAD spark) They are same plugins however you don't need an apollo or volt to use them. If you need a good basic interface, presonus is good for the price.
@@jmsdeco thank you for the recommendation. I decided not to go for the apollo series, since they have multiple problems with windows. I'm super bummed about how they don't create simple drivers for windows. I know there are workarounds for making them work on windows, but that seems like a hassle.
I've found the volt 476 to be pretty reliable - good quality preamps and the built in compressor is something I just leave permanently on. Don't buy it expecting to run UA's plugins on it though - it's only the Apollo series that supports them. You can still run many of them natively in your DAW though, so hardly a drawback in my opinion (wait for a sale before buying though - those plugins can be super pricey!)
depends on your application, but i find my ssl12 to be more than what i need especially from a studio perspective. The sound quality is great. And for recording the talk back feature is great.
I think you just talked me into the Apollo, no joke. I already have a stack of UA native plugins I got dirt cheap on various sales, and they all come with a license for both versions. What am I forgetting to consider?
I think you meant I talked you out of it? :D If you have UA native plugins you don't need an Apollo interface. It's just that some DSP stuff aren't in native format just yet, ie some of the Neve 1073 stuff.
I’m really stuck on what to buy, late comment but I’m looking at getting into voice acting, I’m planning on getting the Rode NT1, but I’m stuck on what interface to get 😫 I’m leaning towards the ssl2, but I don’t know anymore prices are kinda fudged in Australia also
I've just ordered the Behringer 204HD. For what I need (guitar and maybe mic - not simultaneously) it's perfect and has inserts for fx if needed. Cheap and low noise. Quite highly rated.
@@minkorrh I would like to have one of its big bro 404HD, for the sends and returns and 4 inputs; plus quality pre for the price. Julian Krause tested and praised it, but IK's ToneX bundle is quite tempting, within about similar price range of the two, but other hardware features are still unkown and untested as it's quite new.
I would say that go for what you can afford, but also, don't cheap out at the same time, especially if you're starting off. A lot of these things here are great recommendations, especially comparing the Scarlett to other good interfaces within the same price range. The idea for the EVO devices is to help simply stuff, such as using the smart gain. If people prefer to use actual knobs to adjust gain, then go for something else. I'm still using my Audient iD44 MK1. I'm using it until it dies because it does the job, records well, drivers are good, and the preamps sound good. If and when it dies, I may just buy the MK2 or go for RME depending on my budget.
hey man, great video! I’m just not sure what audio interface to get because I use Windows and Mac. I’m looking for an audio interface that would sound great and not too harsh with my Neumann TLM 102 (for voice overs) and that would work well on Mac and Windows. Do you have any suggestions?
I believe you. RME has amazing support for drivers and keep supporting their products because they care. They make drivers even for older gear. They care.
I would strongly recommend going at least for interfaces at the $99 pricepoint instead. ie Arturia Minifuse (not featured in this vid but one you should consider). But I don't recommend Behringer interfaces. There's a quote by Ben Franklin "“The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten” but tldr you'll initially like the cheap price. But as time goes on you'll regret it. With an interface try not go cheap. At least go for mid tier. But between the 2 I'd rather go with the MTrack Solo
@@Dracomies thanks a lot man for your quick comment and advice... Yeah the reason i thought it made sense to buy a cheap interface was that i only needed it for my guitar practice to basically record and listen back to what i play, nothing too fancy since i am not recording an album anytime soon 😅.... Would you still suggest that i go for the suggestions you mention in the video? If so, I'll definitely get one of them!
@@Soumil-f7 There's another interface which I haven't tested you might like called the axe i/o or something like that. But that one is made for guitars. You might like it.
Don’t listen to this guy. He doesn’t provide any good reason for not buying the 2i2. That is lazy. The 2i2 has better converters than many professional interfaces. It has the Focusrite Red converters, better than the UA entry line. Only because it doesn’t have gimmicky preamps and tweaks. With the 2i2 if you want to upgrade you can because of those converters. Run a new preamp and compressor through the line input and you need to buy no new interface.
heads down to your videos, i feel in the early youtube, please continue! What would you say for a focusrite 6i6 2 gen? i was willing to mounth a pc tube both( not shore the dimensions of it yet so it gets nice recordings) and try a diferent mic( currently on a shure sm7b with fethead. but maybe the interface is a thing to consider.. hum ty again brother!
My main goal is to just plug in my guitar and be able to record it and have it be a usb interface where I just plug it into my laptop and my guitar in the interface and record it. What would you recommend? I would like a list of options since I dont know what is available for you against what is available for me. Budget 200$!
I don't know anything about guitars unfortunately. But there's an audio interface specifically designed for guitars, forgot the name,j something Axe. You might like that. That said, I have no experience with that interface so don't come after me if you don't like it, but it's an interface specifically for guitars.
@@Dracomies Well, my main thing is that I need to be able to plug in my guitar for which I would be using 1/4 inch cable, which means that I just needs a audio interface to be able to take.
Please do not make videos like this anymore: shaking hands, papers and interfaces up-close - it is not helpful at all and quite annoying. Didn't finish video...next...
I went through this process recently, looking for an affordable interface I can take along when traveling. I am using the RME Fireface UCX II at home and did really not want to spend that much on a travel solution. My number one criteria was a decent sound using my favorite, DT 1990 Pro, headphones, followed by proper drivers, and support for 192 kHz (not for recording, I rarely record over 48 kHz, but for listening to my purchased high res audio files). After going to a shop that had all these interfaces and more, the solution was far simpler than imagined. The MOTU M2 was literally the only interface with proper Windows and Mac drivers, iOS support, 32-bit 192 kHz support and, most importantly, it handled my headphones without a hitch, even very close in clarity and volume to my much more expensive RME device, whose headphone amps and converters are legendary. The SSL and Audient devices got in the ballpark but too quiet, everything else was a disaster - even the UAD Quad for 1.600 bucks could not get more than a whisper out of my cans, the Focusrite Scarlett devices sounded terrible and thin, their Clarett devices sounded worlds better but still at insufficient volume levels.
Thanks for the video. If I don't need the mic preamp, would you recommend the Zoom AMS-22 for portable interface? My main concern is just wanting to record clean, Low Noise /Hiss direct keyboards and direct clean electric guitar and bass (i use a separate usb mic for vocals) Would you recommend the Zoom over the scarlett solo? Thanks
I'm looking for a audio interface to record a 4 person podcast. I don't want to buy a crazy expensive used for music and all that when I don't need to. Any advice would be greatly appreciated
Presonus interfaces have a lot of problems so I'm hesitant to recommend them. The Io24 was a bust, the Blue USB 96 is a bust. So I'm not comfortable recommending Presonus. Better to go with Minifuse, Volt 1 or Scarlett
Such a good video, very well explained and delivered, despite being so simple. Seen some other chanels with 10x the production that deliver infinitely less value lmao. Keep it up!
great video and topic :) how about presonus interfaces like 24c and bigger than the go? also, i think its better if you just record with 30fps :) it's just a bit difficult seeing the movements
either I missed it or ppl don’t talk about it much but I got the Roland rubix over a focusrite since at the time it was cheaper, but don’t know if it really made a difference
I took the plunge and got myself an SM7B based on a friend's recommendation. Now, I'm diving into the world of audio interfaces for my setup and could really use your advice. I mainly use my gear for voice talent work and voiceovers, but I also like to dabble in recording for my singing hobbies. Got any tips on choosing the right audio interface for me?
Imo as great as the SM7B is for podcasting and for streaming it's not a microphone I recommend for voiceacting and voiceover. Great explanation of it by a voiceactor here: th-cam.com/video/LjzY7ACXzzQ/w-d-xo.html
They'll both get the job done. I'd say they're very close. Both will get the job done. I know that's not the answer you want to hear but imo there's no clear winner.
The UAD money loop of buying a 500+ dollar interface that runs UAD plugins while they only give you enough plugins to get you hooked. Then you find yourself buying 1000+ in plugins to justify your purchase of a 500+ dollar interface to run those plugins.
Pinned.
Lmao
I did years ago. Spent $8000 on UAD plugs and PCI interfaces. But ever since I found out they were using sharc DSP chips I knew what the game was. Sharc are just x86 chips, and weak by any modern standards (of the last 15 years). A decade ago every year I would fill out their user survey comments section with "please just make the dsp's a dongle, I know the plugs can run native, stop limiting us to 3 plugins" (seriously when the neve 33609 can out we could only run 2 instances on a $800 card!!!!)
Its took years of Slate and Softube kicking their ass until they finally gave in and go native (with subscription of course). I moved on years ago I ain't falling for it again. RME interfaces last decades can't fault them or their business model.
my Uad Volt 1 cost like 100 bucks. what are you doing bro spending that money
@@escapegulag4317 it was 3 dsp cards and plugins , long before they made volt
when you're talking about focusrite and the camera won't focus right
So sorry! I have a shit camera. I have since made some camera upgrades based on feedback. ^_^
@@Dracomies all good, and the video is really helpful, I just had to
LFMAOOOOO
@@Dracomies If you would stop waving your hands around nervously, the camera would have a chance to focus. That nervous hand waving is also irritating to the viewers.
@@JohnShalamskas nuh uh, we all love him
People flaming the video for imperfect filming are insane.. this is one of the most to the point informative videos by someone who actually knows what they’re talking about and nobody even realizes it 🤦♂️
not fashionable those days
At least I want to see a sharp image, when he holds the interfaces to the camera. Otherwise I could listen to a podcast!
I got my 3rd gen Scarlett 2i2 for $60 at a pawn shop. I feel like that's a perfect level. I see them all the time there so I pounced and everything sounds so much better than they did on my old interface
That's a fantastic deal of a steal! Great deal for sure!
What was your old Interface?
lol i got my solo at a pawn shop too for $40
You know what, I enjoy the less than perfect presentation. Reminds me of TH-cam's early years. Keep it up!
agreed, I thoroughly enjoyed this format
kinda feels like hes just talking next to you
Exactly I swear these people are just mad they bought the “wrong” interface… there is no wrong interface for what money you have. You just have to make things work when they will… I’ve been using a Behringer UMChd404 since 2014 on Mac and PC and it works for me, only recently have I noticed the noise issues because I upgraded everything besides my interface. The Uphoria line is definitely better suited to live performance where noise floor is only as important as how quiet the venue is, and what kind of music/show is playing. For a jazz concert or a rock show it’s probably fine, but if your using it to mic a quartet playing classical with a lot of dynamic range, then most likely go for something a little less noisy and more robust. Home studio recording would be fine as well as long as it’s a noisy music type such as rap or rock, acoustic and a cappella will definitely be drowned by the noise floor… but this interface does monitor and output very high quality sound as long as the amp you are using can support high fidelity. I use it to drive analog sound to my home studio and theater… sucks it doesn’t have any type of digital output though such as optical or even HDMI… it does support analog quadraphonic which sounds great, probably one of the best DACS for quad mixing at that price point, especially since it supports quad channel at 192khz… you just have to find the correct drivers and make SURE you are not using any other sound drivers with it, a few sound drivers work well with the uphoria, such as asio, and digital cable for sound routing. It’s not stated by the manufacturer that this is more for old heads and advanced users rather than novice users, or streamers, or modern bedroom music makers (not hating, I started using this device as a novice bedroom beat maker- and have slowly turned into an old head that cares about quadraphonic, surround and analog mixing, due to this interface.) so really all of these devices have their own place in A STUDIO/EVENT, but that place is determined by the usage case and circumstances that the user finds themselves in, a scarlet 2i2 is great for traveling and or sampling, the the uphoria is great for tracking up to 4 tracks at a time in a super high res sample rate that can be later downsized without reducing quality or introducing to much aliasing. The maudio is good for a small collage or bedroom desktop set up… etc etc. I can go on and on about how none of these are trash… just trash in certain circumstances when not used in a manner that matches the design… especially for products intended to be used on apple platforms, that are trying to be used for windows, that just comes down to poor research, and not knowing the basics before you dive from the 50ft
@@sirreal2290bro no one is gonna read all of that.
@@Welshmanshotsfor real 😭
The Apollo Twin starts at around 1000 Euros and comes with some decent Unison plugins for latency free tracking. I have an Apollo Arrow Thunderbolt version (was even cheaper) with a free plugin package and never bought any additional UA plugin - just added some 3rd party plugins for post production. Works great - no regret.
You're right! I remember the Arrow was the precursor to the current Apollo Solo USB. But yip I think where a lot of people can easily lose money is with the plugins, but you didn't fall in for that :D
Exactly, you don’t have to get caught up buying $1000 worth of plugins
Agree I got it for unison preamps and latency free recording
please take this as constructive criticism. I think the information is lost in the filming style. First, the waiving devices around hurts the viewers eyes. Maybe set up cameras and show the device on a table, slowly moving around it not fast. Pointing at the interface thing you're discussing. Like when you're pointing out the solo microphone controls monitors maybe shoot role showing an example or just show the devices as stationary and you turning the knob. Second, the framing doesn't use half the screen the right side. Also the blurry background combined with the waving hands and device is off putting. my two cents.
You are 100% right. I really need to get a better camera, better camera logistics, better video editing, better camera positioning and get my videos done right. Thank you the heads-up!
Drugs are bad for health.
It's a pity cos your content is interesting.
@@Dracomies A tripod and phone camera is perfect already! Having good audio is more important honestly, which your audio is already perfect.
Boohoo
People complaining about focus should instead be giving kudos for a glorious absence of music. How many videos I had to quit watching after just ten seconds...
I think i just had an aneurysm trying to look at audio intefaces shaking up and down violently out of focus.
For me it was the talking hands.
😀 For me it was BOTH!
Good info though.
@@olternautmust be Italian
Yes, I know the feeling. :)
Maybe your filming skills are not the best but :
1. You know what you're talking about
2. You are very clear and precise
3. What you said is true.
Thanks for sharing your experience🥰
Apogee is the best
@@mbobev Worst on Windows
I absolutely love the Audient Evo series. The UI really clicks with me. The DI is really good, preamps are good, all the parameters of the interface can be controlled by the software as well and the hardware setting will be in sync with it live.
The Loopback mixer is absolutely amazing. Nobody else offers that. The fact that none of the others in this comparison have that, make the others a no-go for me. It's just WAY easier to set-up streaming, online lessons etc.
What I do not like about it is that the body is plastic; a side effect of which is that EMI sensitivity. I would have to definitely pay more for a metal one so I can't be complaining too much.
I have made a mount for it so it lives next to the height adjustment control on my desk and it is on an angle, it's impossible to get a phone or something near it or coming out of it. This is a recent solution though and before I made that mount, I did get my phone near it and then it would make some noise and I would remember to move my phone away.
The Instrument DI on the Evo is garbage.
nice video! what mic are you using? and are there any post eq effects? if yes, how to make it sound so bassy and deep like yours? any good software recommendations?
Solo 4th gen and 2i2 4th gen have different pre amps. Solo is 58db max gain, and the 2i2 is 69db max gain. You will notice focusrite clearly lists the 2i2 gain in product descriptions, and on the Solo, you have to go into the detailed specs on their website to find it. Makes a big difference depending on the input devices you plan to use.
Great breakdown vid 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Here's my interface experience... Started with Native Instruments KA6 Mk1in 2011 used it up through 2022 when I went from MBP to Mac Studio. The KA6 was built like a tank, I loved it and will use it for mobile situations. My next interface was the MOTU M4 (USB-C) used it from March 2022 til Feb 2023. The MOTU just never grew on me, it's a great value unit from a really good company; I have it sitting in its box and need to get around to selling it. My current interface is the Antelope Audio Zen Q (TB) purchased in March 2023, I wanted a desktop unit with a big knob, great convertors, along with belonging to an eco-system of other units that would allow me to expand. I couldn't be happier with it! The one thing I don't like is the afx2DAW software which I find clunky. A friend pointed me towards OmniBus software and I find it to be really solid, well laid out and intuitive. I see myself adding an expansion unit to my ZenQ and growing this way.
Thanks for that! 👍🏼
Having your subject matter in focus is rule #1.
I really do need to get a different camera.
I think, for now, not shaking the units so much while you're talking about them would help. I did like the information in the video, though, and it's cool that you can compare so many.
Disagree. Having good advice is rule #1. Pedant bullshit like focus, when I’m watching this vertically on mobile while reading comments, is basically worthless. I’m perfectly happy with the video.
It isn't pedant bullshit when the medium he's using is VIDEO, a VISUAL media. For fu*k's sake, always some idiot @@UliTroyo
I personally couldn't care less. I can hear him well and I like his presentation.
i did not realize that the EVO 4 had EMI issues. I've been using evo 4 since launch, I heard pop so many times to the point where it wasn't usable and i thought it was my computer struggling. First year were good using it until i had driver issues. Audient support were able help me with troubleshooting. even with my beefy laptop the audient evo 4 still hearing the pop. I'm actually considering buying a SSL2 as my next interface. Thanks for this video and it really helped me out.
I actually like the evo for the same reason. I have an evo 8. Love the minimalist approach
I also use it with the iPhone and live streaming. The Evo series look awesome on camera. Besides the quality, when you are running a one band show, audio, video, content and you are the talent on screen, simplicity is very very much appreciated. I had to choose between Evo8 and ID14 (which is better). Smart gain won me over (it is supposed to be a gimmick), but it can come in handy. You can't always monitor when creating content.
Straight to the point and no bs, like everyone here in YT should be. Huge thanks.
What’s with the soft focused writing pad?
Sounds like he really needs to... Focus Rite
I recently got an Audient id14 mkii and I'm super impressed!! The pre-amps are crystal clear (for it's price), the headphone output can run both my 250ohm and 600ohm headphones, and I really enjoy the loopback feature since it gave me a way to stream audio in places where I couldn't and record a seperate mix in OBS that I made. I got it for 150 euros (i think the price is different for each country, since you mentioned that the id4 is listed at 200 dollars). The problem I had with focusrite were the drivers, I despise them, in comparison to the Audient drivers, my cpu had more load, meaning that in heavy projects I had to use a lot of latency, and I couldn't stream my whole PC because I would lose the audio of my DAW. The only workaround for that would be an app like VB Cables. In general it was a nice video mate!! Keep it up you gained a sub
Yeah they have excellent preamps and can drive any headphone!
@@Dracomies have you ever used the adat port to expand the mic preamps? Does it work well?
Haven't done that :P @@NightshadeProduces
Just saw your comment, that's a great price! Can I ask what eshop did you buy it from, if you bought it online? I usually see it sold for 200+ EUR everywhere, so I wonder if they just raised its price globally. If your eshop ships to other EU coutnries, it might be just cheaper to import it! :D
Great comparison. I've only used 2 interfaces, Mbox 2 with XP using Protools 7.3 and currently with Reaper on a Windows 7 machine, and a Presonus Audio Box USB96 on the Windows 10 computer. My criteria was for midi connectivity and mic/guitar/line input. All have separate volume knobs for headphones, line out (monitors) and line in (guitars etc). That has been a really useful feature. I have found the Mbox can be tweaked to compensate for latency (not bad for a 20 year old interface) while the Presonus cannot (at least to my efforts). I have recently acquired a second Mbox2 as I'm archiving older Protools files from an SSD with XP. The second hand market offers some cheap alternatives, and could be great for those using newish computers with older os and older daws. I would suggest researching what drivers the makers are offering before going this rout. Thanks for the post.
Yeah I've always been wary with Presonus interfaces. They're not known for doing great interfaces - at least I don't think so. I do hear nice things about their speakers though. But interfaces maybe aren't their jam. ie the blue Presonus Audiobox 96 (that had so many issues), the IO24 (kinda was a bust), the Audiobox Go (bested by other travel interfaces) etc.
I can't use my old Echo Gina24 (which I loved) because it's internal AND not even PCI so I bought a Behringer UM-4. Too bad I didnt see this first, because you are spot on. Headphone jack is dead. Noisy as heck. Big driver issues, especially in Linux. Luckily this is inspiring me to get. Thanks.
Hey, was curious on opions! im currently picking between the motu m2 and Behringer U-Phoria UMC204HD (under $200 with midi in/outs). Iv seen alot of people saying the motu m2 has alot of noise when using the monitoring but I really like it astheically. However if the $80 less id id have to pay for the UMC204HD isnt a major step down considering saving the money just going with that. I already have dac/amp (zen ifi stack) for everday use, so outside of monitoring I wont be using it for listening. My current plan is to just go with a shure sm57 and with the windscreen, so this might all be over kill but id rather future proof some. I know the UMC204HD wasnt directly mentioned but do you have experince with it and is it worth looking at over the motu m2?
This one is easy and not my typical 'it depends' answer, go for the MOTU M2.
@@Dracomies Much appricated! Im curious what your thought process is this on this one, just a much better all around product outta the motu m2 or is the 204HD just not very good? Is it just that the issues people have are QC and to get a replacement if you have the noise issues?
@@mdct77 So it’s a few things. So before I go on further please note that I do not have a Behringer UMC202HD or a UMC 204HD but spec-wise they are the same. If you watch this video here, you’ll see that the gain range of the UMC202HD is 51 decibels. The MOTU M2 is 60 DB. th-cam.com/video/uy4NknWXZT0/w-d-xo.html This is important if you plan to use the interface with gain-hungry dynamic microphones, ie the Shure Sm7B. The dynamic range of the UMC204 HD is much lower than those on the MOTU M2 and the headphone outputs aren’t as good either. (Layman’s terms you get louder output from headphones like HD6xx on the MOTU M2) Another thing to consider is that (if you look at the UM2) the drivers are no longer supported by Behringer. Behringer has questionable quality control. So if we were to look down the line, which company do you think would support their drivers, Behringer or MOTU? That said -- I have gotten people who had great things to say about the UMC series - but personally I'd rather go for the MOTU M2 over anything Behringer.
This Video Helped me tremendously. I Ended up purchasing the Volt 276 thanks to this guys Help. Great Vid.
I loved my EVO 4 especially with promising features to beginners such as the Auto gain. Unfortunately, the EMI issues as you stated makes this extremely difficult to work with in small/compact setups.
So what do you recommend and why
Sooooo which one do I buy?
Bro, he said it multiple times. Gotta pay attention.
Lmaoooo@@Alitan18
i have the evo 4. You're right about the emi issues. I use a wireless mouse and it picks up the frequencies when i move it haha. Quite sure its just a shielding problem. The entire thing is just plastic, so it amplifies anything. The glaring issues about the big knob does everything is kind of fixed with the audient software for it. But at that point just get a different interface. Mostly bought it for driving my heavier headphones and using the mic input. For not being an audiophile this product is really user friendly in my opinion. I dont regret my purchase but would i buy it again? Probably not.
Whoa man! Just stumbled upon your microphone video and then this one and I must say I couldn't be more thankful to algo for recommending me your vid. It did help me just about when I needed it. Keep up the good work man 🙌
7 months ago I bought a Roland Rubix 24 and love this card. I'm very glad I didn't choose the Focusrite solo just because of the "hype" around it. Instead, I purchased a reliable interface. I am now using it with my Audiotechica ATH m40x and a RODE NT1 mic which works so well and without any audible noise from the unit, such a nice card ;)
What's wrong with Scarlett 1st & 2nd Gen..?
I agree - I've found them to be unstable and stop and start working somewhat randomly (though not usually while it's in use). It's also often packaged as a bundle with cheap components
It's not wrong but moreso they have made a quite few improvements on the 3rd and 4th gen, improvements worth paying a bit extra for.
@@Dracomies i have been using the Gen 1 since maybe 2015ish.. I've had to replace the usb cable but besides that I haven't had any issues.. maybe i just don't know what I'm missing.. but if its just about those air/vintage modes, that doesn't feel like something i would want to be baked into the raw tracks..
It's moreso the self noise of the interface and the gain range and dynamic range. Lots of incremental changes. Not totally totally game-changing but quite a noticeable difference in noise between Gen 1 and Gen 3. @@MreenalMams
Scarlet 2i2 gen 3 is great, had it for years and no issues. I know what level to have it on and where to have the level on my daw and everything sounds great. Each to their own opinion. I think it's the person using the interface as much as anything..
hey great video! just wanted to ask if you found anything better in terms of portable audio intertface, i plan on recording guitar on the go. i use the usual drive sprectrum from super cleans to overdriven to high gain so one with super low noise is a priority and i'm on windows. would love to hear your thoughts, thanks in advance! i subbed btw because of how in depth you go into these things
I'd go with the F3. It's a bit larger than the AMS-22 but it has far better preamps but you also get 32 bit float recording and you do not need to use a computer with it. That said I'm not as knowledgeable about guitars.
I can agree on the fact that the evo4 is confusing sometimes with 1 knob and the random software issues that can occur. However, I got a professional setup for my significant other to use for work, including the evo4, and she NEVER has to adjust anything with the knob ever. Thankfully, it CAN be pretty "set and forget." Her earthworks icon pro always sounds great with it lol. So, for a very beginner or non-technical person, I can easily recommend the evo4!
I like the EVO 4 too. Once you get used to the one-knob thing, it's really not that bad to navigate. The mic pre is pretty good too.
It was my first interface, and so I didn't have to unlearn how regular interfaces work. Still have it, one of my better tech purchases.
Is there a problem with my audio interface(clarett+) ?Or has Focusrite Control been a problem for a long time? When using F CONTROL for the first time every day, the output options (speakers or headphones), when switching from Playback (DAW) to Custom Mix, the sound is skewed to the right, and I need to re-add the SOFTWARE (DAW) PLAYBACK ports to fix it.
I used an old 0404usb until 2023.. Figured I ought to upgrade my P.C, so 'upgraded' everything. I didnt like the sound of the Scarletts. Tried ssl for a week but ended up returning it and getting a Motu m4. Seems ok for now.
I love MOTU stuff! Of the interfaces sub $200 it's easily my favorite of the bunch. It's the most intuitive and easy-to-use interface. It just works! :P
Your Motu is a really nice interface.
I use motu m4 as well, seems ok!
What was your reason for returning SSL? Do you like the M4 mic preamp sound better?
@@Kisenix I never returned the SSL.
looking to get one of these to just run my presonus eris 3.5 and its subwoofer, do these audio interfaces provide different output audio quality to the speaker? If so which would u recommend for my use case?
My Motu M4 has emi issues through the screen in the front. I always have to point it away from stuff.
I feel that every interface in that form factor would have that. Because the front is not metal.
what dac do you suggest for gaming and having chat mix ?
Why doesn't anyone include or talk about the IK axe i/O one in these videos its like they exclude it completely. Is there any particular reason?
Probably because it's more guitar specific.
I don't know but I have zero issues with mine.
The pc vs mac thing also applies to the volt models? Thank you for the video!
Thank you for the insight. How do you feel about the Focusrite Clarett+ 4Pre?
I don't have firsthand experience but my overall impression is that Claretts are great but for the price you definitely want to evaluate other options too. You might get what you're actually looking for at a cheaper price - or you might find something more premium if you pay a bit more - they're at a weird price point.
Ok, thank you. What would you recommend I take a look at?@@Dracomies
I have the previous version Clarett 4Pre USB interface. I record mostly drums with it, running it on Windows. Can't complain about it after over four years. And from what I read the + version is pretty much the same as mine with slightly improved audio quality.
I'd argue the MOTU M6 is better and it's a lot less money.
@@zdravkodimitrov thk you. Keep up the great work.
If i have a little flexibility in a budget, should i get the m track duo since you said the solo is good?
I'd go for the Minifuse or the others unless you absolutely need 2 inputs.
Dude, I don't know what UAD did to you but you are giving bad information here, I had an Apollo Twin mk2 since Windows 7, now have a Apollo x6 with Windows 10,
and in both cases ZERO issues, I say again ZERO issues with UAD Apollos and Windows PCs.
Also, when you buy an Apollo you get a suite of plugins that are enough for any type of production, you can buy more if you want to, but you definitely DON'T have to buy anything at all, they can run with no plugins whatsoever if you so wish, they are not required.
Again, I don't know what your beef is with UAD but your followers deserve to hear the truth.
2nd that.
3rd that!@@Fastvoice
"i dont like that" well dont buy the extra plugins that is running outside of your cpu then, it has nothing to do with the I/O of the interface that you initially was about to review... This whole video is stupid.
@@diskodogge7538 TRUE
actually an excellent device that comes fully loaded?? not sure where he's coming from on this?
I wonder about the minifuse?
It's a great option. I didn't have a chance to talk about it.
Great video. Justifications make sense. Lot of information.
I understand it's off the cuff but pay attention to the speed of delivery/nervousness. It take away from a great advice video.
Any experience on Linux? what would you recommand?
Thank you so much. And yip, I tend to talk really really fast. I need to work on that. I also bought a new camera today since everyone complained the camera angles were bad :D
@@Dracomies I listened and IMO you don't talk too fast. But I couldn't watch... your new camera may help, but I couldn't watch because you were constantly moving and shaking the products.
Still, thanks for your planning and work on this!
Thank you for letting me know. I did finally get a new camera and a new shockmount! :D @@ot9er
Mackie Onyx Producer 2-2 USB Audio Interface works well under Linux. Be sure you install pavucontrol and open it before your recording software to set the input stream and lock the outputs and inputs. Its plug and play with newer kernels.
I love the Apollo. The quality is great you get free plug-ins I think $1300 worth of plug-ins off the bat That alone is worth it. I guess it depends on the quality of recording you want and the money you can afford to spend. I also have the Apollo solo on my laptop PC. No problems works great. And once again, you have access to plug-ins that actually sound very close to external hardware gear, which I own also. I’ve owned quite a few interfaces and I found out people are not just spending the money because they have it. There is a difference.
GOOOOOOOOD DAMN it why TH-cam recommended me this PIECE OF ART CHANNEL after I bought Rode mic with Focusrite interface. I wanted to buy the SSL interface but didn't do it. Man, I think YT is mocking me somehow😭.
Used rode mic with focusrite for a lot of years. It was good when I was a beginner but as you train your ears you’ll realize the quality isn’t really up there
@@Mychordchronicles I just got my Neumann last week, and I must say you're ABSOLUTELY wrong. The equipment plays a huge role, Rode mic had a weird low mid muddy sound as opposed to my new neumann which is pretty transparent and crisp
@@gliterott can u help me to decide what best audio interface that can make clean sound, i plan to buy xm8500 mic, but i dont know what audio interface that work good with my mic ? my budget is like $100
@@yoursupportsystems bro if your budget is 100 then look into M audio, it looks solid from the reviews but I’ve personally never used it.
A better option would be saving up some more and going for a mid-ranged one.
I’m currently using babyface pro fs btw and I can tell you that more you spend the better quality you’ll get for sure
@@gliterott If I have a budget that's just right, should I go for the M-Track Solo, or is it better to save up a little more to get the Focusrite Scarlett Solo 4th Gen ? I’m looking for the best quality audio possible.
I have had my EVO 4 since it was the only thing I could get during Spamdemic (no SSL in Oz) to replace my much-loved Balance interface. My EVO 4 is used every day for music & screencasts (Higher Hz reviews etc). It has been a super device with no issues at all. Sure it isn't designed to be a football as the case is bendable plastic - which makes it light for carrying. The audio has been perfectly clean. I wonder if people with interference aren't using cracked cables. The on-knob situation is unique but once you accept it, is dandy. Recorded a few clients with this with no stress. For a cheap interface, I always recommend this (along with the Behringer XM8500 mic). :-)
The preamps sound great. I remember when I first had the EVO4 I recommended it for quite some time. But yip the one knob drove me nuts after a while :P
I'm a huge RME fan and I really want to love the BabyFace Pro FS but I can't stand the arrangement of the inputs. They stick out on all sides, resembling some kind of medussa and making cable management a pain. I really wish RME would redesign it with all the IO on the back except maybe the headphones.
I'd kill for a partnership with RME and Zoom. Something with 32 bit float recording + RME Babyface preamps and capability + but Zoom's small size and simplicity.
I Had The BabyFace Pro FS As Well.. The BF Is Rock Solid But As You Mentioned I Didn't Like The Design/Layout And Arrangement Of The I/O So I Returned It Back To Sweetwater
What did you end up using in the end? What's your interface today@@mrrnrob
@@Dracomies UAD Apollo Solo OS Win 11
Get the UCXii - it's exactly that. Super happy w mine and yeah the octopus setup on the babyface needs a lot of room but it's still far better among the set here.
I've been researching for months & here's where I'm at: a) If it's a budget issue, I would get the Behringer with the MIDAS preamps. Zero latency as well. b) If money is not an issue, then Audient id series. c) The 2nd option in the higher budget range would be the SSL.
I have a NI Komplete Audio 6. My problem is that its headphone slot is somewhat faulty. If you push the jack all the way, it won't have sound, you have to pull it a little bit to have sound.
My other bigger problem with it is that i have to re-seat the USB slot every time i power the PC after a complete shutdown.
A cousin of mine gave me an ART USB Dual Pre 2-channel Audio Interface / Preamplifier. But i can't find a compatible DC power plug for it yet.
I'm curious to know if the ART ai doesn't have the re-seating problem i have with the NI ai?
Any help, appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Hi @noiJadisCailleach, bummer you're going thru those frustrations. It's happened to me in parallel ways on many devices over the years. To solve your problem in this case, the main trick is to determine your cost-benefit situation (not just in $) between repairing vs replacing it. so for starters double check whether your interface is covered under NI's warranty policy. If so, then take that route. If not, unfortunately it's extremely unlikely that any pro audio repair tech would fix it for a price significantly lower than what the NI interface costs new. BUT if you have a friend who is can service it, or if you are eager to try to see if you can open it up and fix it yourself ... then maybe it'd be worthwhile. but beyond all that, the cost-benefit is also about how urgent or essential your need to keep making music or audio content .... and whether that's worth fixing even more immediately. If you do decide to get a different interface, check out the steinberg UR44 or UR242, which IMO offer way better value v $ than the interface you have. but what really matters most is to have a working device that you can use to create whatever content you've been dreaming up. so try not to let the tech road block get in the way of that .... still working on that advice for myself; but seems to be the way ...
the first version of komplete 6 was solid
i was wondering if you have recommendations for budget studio monitors. only for music consumption and not production. that would be super helpful!
What's your budget or the most you're willing to pay comfort-wise? Otherwise I'd say check out the AKG 371. Those are pretty good for enjoyment.
@@Dracomies umm around £80-150. also do u have suggestions for speakers? around £130-170?
@@toxo_wb Check out the Sennheiser HD6xx which is $199 USD. For speakers I'd go with the JBL 305 but that is only one speaker for what you're asking for when you'll need two. I don't recommend going cheaper than that.
What do you recommend for a duo pc (second pc is a mini pc) its just to run my stream and recording. Only has an output audio port?
It depends - but all of these interfaces should work fine for both of your stations. What sort of budget are you looking at? Is the size of the interface an issue or is portability important. I will add one bit of advice. Avoid 'streamer based interfaces' or those interfaces with too many buttons. Many of those have too many moving parts and break or have issues, ie the Presonus I024 (bust), the Rodecaster Pro (some problems rolling in), GoXLR (no longer supported and is dead). So stick to a dedicated interface - and most of those should work fine for your setup.
th-cam.com/video/N3vntwl3Utk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=0y_A6pr2Slx50Tav you wont find any better dualpc stream setup with optical audio transfer beteen both pc than this two rme
@@Dracomies The GoXLR support team has been reformed, albeit a smaller team. They did provide a beta software update on their official discord in Dec, It's nice to know that there is some form of support that has returned, so it is not fully dead which is nice.
@@Dracomiesyou have a recommendation on a cheap audio mixer? might want to connect a turntable and a keyboard
So what about the new Apollo X Usb windows only interface that's dedicated to windows
I really like the Universal Audio Volt series that includes the 1176 compressor with the wood looking side panels. Very good sounding interface.
Glad you love it! I'm a huge fan too! That vintage mode is sweet and subtle! :P
The wood is cool ... the compresor is ... poor.
I have a Volt 2 and this mf is soooo nice
Thank you I totally agree with you that’s why I never bought a Apollo twin by the way what do you think about the apogee
I'm using the Duet 2, good price for second hand, powerful AD/DA
But that's also one button for everything🙃
Great video, Straight forward for the real user!
I think Boothjunkie liked that interface too. I think it favors Apple iirc.
@@yuzhuoma814 you can switch what that 'one button' does
I'll be buying studio monitors and the interface for the 1st time. So far I've had my eye on the SSL 2 interface and hoping to pair it with Adam Audio T7V's. It's within my budget. What I want to know is, am I better off with slightly cheaper gear if I won't be recording live instruments and songs? I'll only be making beats and most of all, improving my mixing.
SSL2 is $145 on a amazon promotion right now. Just get that.
Guys, listen to this gentleman! He's honestly has a point, thank you Sir, for the knowledge 👍
Sir, I've subscribed. I watch the others video later 👍
Great video, really appreciate the content! Don't forget to slow down and catch your breath though.
I wanted to get the apollo solo for my windows laptop which has a thunderbolt port. And i already am using some UA plugins. Im torn between the Apollo solo, Volt 476p and SSL 12. Do the preamps and converters of the solo outperform their volt lineups? SSL sounds so good in all youtube videos. They are all similarly priced here in India. Please help!
Hi. I've been using universal audio Apollo's for a very long time. Here's the good and bad. The good. Universal Audio makes excellent, high quality products. Their plugins are top of the line. All the converters on the apollo's and volt's are very good. no issues there. The Bad. My concern with the Apollo solo or volt is that it has limited processing power meaning you can only run so many plugins at a time, especially in unison. Just a thought. If you really like UAD plugins take look at their native ones ( UAD spark) They are same plugins however you don't need an apollo or volt to use them. If you need a good basic interface, presonus is good for the price.
@@jmsdeco thank you for the recommendation. I decided not to go for the apollo series, since they have multiple problems with windows. I'm super bummed about how they don't create simple drivers for windows. I know there are workarounds for making them work on windows, but that seems like a hassle.
I've found the volt 476 to be pretty reliable - good quality preamps and the built in compressor is something I just leave permanently on. Don't buy it expecting to run UA's plugins on it though - it's only the Apollo series that supports them. You can still run many of them natively in your DAW though, so hardly a drawback in my opinion (wait for a sale before buying though - those plugins can be super pricey!)
depends on your application, but i find my ssl12 to be more than what i need especially from a studio perspective. The sound quality is great. And for recording the talk back feature is great.
Go RME , Save yourself
I think you just talked me into the Apollo, no joke. I already have a stack of UA native plugins I got dirt cheap on various sales, and they all come with a license for both versions. What am I forgetting to consider?
I think you meant I talked you out of it? :D If you have UA native plugins you don't need an Apollo interface. It's just that some DSP stuff aren't in native format just yet, ie some of the Neve 1073 stuff.
@@Dracomies I left out the important part-I can look at used Apollos that don't come with licenses
Apogee duet uses single dial design and always worked pretty well, is this very different from that?
I've never tried the Duets but I heard they're very Mac specific.
I’m really stuck on what to buy, late comment but I’m looking at getting into voice acting, I’m planning on getting the Rode NT1, but I’m stuck on what interface to get 😫 I’m leaning towards the ssl2, but I don’t know anymore prices are kinda fudged in Australia also
What do you think about the IK Multimedia interfaces, that has good set of features for guitarists and also come with ToneX SE and Amplitube bundles?
I don't know anything about those interfaces. So I can't comment either way. I didn't get around to testing those ^_^
@@Dracomies fairly new one, the AXE IO ONE
Oh it's new. Interesting. Yip I don't know about it but I 'may' check it out in the future. :P @@mohitrahaman
I've just ordered the Behringer 204HD. For what I need (guitar and maybe mic - not simultaneously) it's perfect and has inserts for fx if needed. Cheap and low noise. Quite highly rated.
@@minkorrh I would like to have one of its big bro 404HD, for the sends and returns and 4 inputs; plus quality pre for the price. Julian Krause tested and praised it, but IK's ToneX bundle is quite tempting, within about similar price range of the two, but other hardware features are still unkown and untested as it's quite new.
I would say that go for what you can afford, but also, don't cheap out at the same time, especially if you're starting off. A lot of these things here are great recommendations, especially comparing the Scarlett to other good interfaces within the same price range. The idea for the EVO devices is to help simply stuff, such as using the smart gain. If people prefer to use actual knobs to adjust gain, then go for something else. I'm still using my Audient iD44 MK1. I'm using it until it dies because it does the job, records well, drivers are good, and the preamps sound good. If and when it dies, I may just buy the MK2 or go for RME depending on my budget.
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hey man, great video! I’m just not sure what audio interface to get because I use Windows and Mac. I’m looking for an audio interface that would sound great and not too harsh with my Neumann TLM 102 (for voice overs) and that would work well on Mac and Windows. Do you have any suggestions?
I am on PC got a 20y old RME Hammerfall card that is still supported and works like a charm
I believe you. RME has amazing support for drivers and keep supporting their products because they care. They make drivers even for older gear. They care.
rme is only brand that create theyr own drivers from scratch
Excellent video! whats your opinion on the Behringer UMC 22, would you say its better than the Mtrack solo for a beginner/Budget friendly interface?
I would strongly recommend going at least for interfaces at the $99 pricepoint instead. ie Arturia Minifuse (not featured in this vid but one you should consider). But I don't recommend Behringer interfaces. There's a quote by Ben Franklin "“The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten” but tldr you'll initially like the cheap price. But as time goes on you'll regret it. With an interface try not go cheap. At least go for mid tier. But between the 2 I'd rather go with the MTrack Solo
@@Dracomies thanks a lot man for your quick comment and advice... Yeah the reason i thought it made sense to buy a cheap interface was that i only needed it for my guitar practice to basically record and listen back to what i play, nothing too fancy since i am not recording an album anytime soon 😅.... Would you still suggest that i go for the suggestions you mention in the video? If so, I'll definitely get one of them!
@@Soumil-f7 There's another interface which I haven't tested you might like called the axe i/o or something like that. But that one is made for guitars. You might like it.
Don’t listen to this guy. He doesn’t provide any good reason for not buying the 2i2. That is lazy. The 2i2 has better converters than many professional interfaces. It has the Focusrite Red converters, better than the UA entry line. Only because it doesn’t have gimmicky preamps and tweaks. With the 2i2 if you want to upgrade you can because of those converters. Run a new preamp and compressor through the line input and you need to buy no new interface.
agree, he just said don’t buy the 2i2 buy these instead but never provide the reason why
There's just no reason TO buy it. As basic as it gets. Why not get something just as good but more options.
@@LTPottenger “it’s too basic, there are better options out there” is a reason, why didn’t just he explain it
@@marblesoda._.Wrong. The other options are just as good with way more features. Duh.
There is a video of a guy checking inside of the Scarlett and I remember it was far from impressing from his point of view
heads down to your videos, i feel in the early youtube, please continue!
What would you say for a focusrite 6i6 2 gen? i was willing to mounth a pc tube both( not shore the dimensions of it yet so it gets nice recordings) and try a diferent mic( currently on a shure sm7b with fethead. but maybe the interface is a thing to consider.. hum ty again brother!
Scarlett focusright 2ii2 4th gen is amazing. The 3rd gen was great. Ive never had an issue with them. 4th gen total step up though
It has some really nice quality of life improvements for sure! I like how XLR cables can come from the back.
My main goal is to just plug in my guitar and be able to record it and have it be a usb interface where I just plug it into my laptop and my guitar in the interface and record it. What would you recommend? I would like a list of options since I dont know what is available for you against what is available for me. Budget 200$!
I don't know anything about guitars unfortunately. But there's an audio interface specifically designed for guitars, forgot the name,j something Axe. You might like that. That said, I have no experience with that interface so don't come after me if you don't like it, but it's an interface specifically for guitars.
@@Dracomies Well, my main thing is that I need to be able to plug in my guitar for which I would be using 1/4 inch cable, which means that I just needs a audio interface to be able to take.
Please do not make videos like this anymore: shaking hands, papers and interfaces up-close - it is not helpful at all and quite annoying. Didn't finish video...next...
I went through this process recently, looking for an affordable interface I can take along when traveling. I am using the RME Fireface UCX II at home and did really not want to spend that much on a travel solution. My number one criteria was a decent sound using my favorite, DT 1990 Pro, headphones, followed by proper drivers, and support for 192 kHz (not for recording, I rarely record over 48 kHz, but for listening to my purchased high res audio files). After going to a shop that had all these interfaces and more, the solution was far simpler than imagined. The MOTU M2 was literally the only interface with proper Windows and Mac drivers, iOS support, 32-bit 192 kHz support and, most importantly, it handled my headphones without a hitch, even very close in clarity and volume to my much more expensive RME device, whose headphone amps and converters are legendary. The SSL and Audient devices got in the ballpark but too quiet, everything else was a disaster - even the UAD Quad for 1.600 bucks could not get more than a whisper out of my cans, the Focusrite Scarlett devices sounded terrible and thin, their Clarett devices sounded worlds better but still at insufficient volume levels.
Thanks for the video. If I don't need the mic preamp, would you recommend the Zoom AMS-22 for portable interface? My main concern is just wanting to record clean, Low Noise /Hiss direct keyboards and direct clean electric guitar and bass (i use a separate usb mic for vocals) Would you recommend the Zoom over the scarlett solo? Thanks
I'm looking for a audio interface to record a 4 person podcast. I don't want to buy a crazy expensive used for music and all that when I don't need to. Any advice would be greatly appreciated
I've currently got the motu m2, would you say a better upgrade down the line be the ssl 12, volt 476, motu m6 or audient id4?
Hi, I'm finding an old audio interface. Is the roland duo-capture ex good enough ? Im will use it with my guitar.
I've owned an EVO 8 for years now and it's done everything I've needed from it. No complaints.
You can get a used focustite clarett instead of the scarlett. The clarett is a step above ssl etc
I love how clear your explainations are.
Hello Sir, thanks for the video! What's your opinion on the PreSonus 24C?
Presonus interfaces have a lot of problems so I'm hesitant to recommend them. The Io24 was a bust, the Blue USB 96 is a bust. So I'm not comfortable recommending Presonus. Better to go with Minifuse, Volt 1 or Scarlett
@@Dracomies thank you Sir! Trully appreciated!
this is exactly the type of video I was looking for. thank you! keep it up!
saw that you didn't suggest the um2. What about the UMC204HD?
Get the Minifuse or Volt 1 instead. Same price.
@@Dracomies any particular reason why? Other than them being the same price.
How do you feel about the Mini Fuse 2?
It's good from what I hear. I didn't get around to trying it.
Never had any EMI issues near a EVO 4 and i have the wifi router at 1 meter, my 4g/5g phone at half meter..
Such a good video, very well explained and delivered, despite being so simple. Seen some other chanels with 10x the production that deliver infinitely less value lmao. Keep it up!
As a new artist/vocalist, I find this to have been very helpful in making a decision on which interface to get.
which one to get for iems with low impedance?
great video and topic :) how about presonus interfaces like 24c and bigger than the go? also, i think its better if you just record with 30fps :) it's just a bit difficult seeing the movements
and the Universal Audio Volt ? they works on PC ?
either I missed it or ppl don’t talk about it much but I got the Roland rubix over a focusrite since at the time it was cheaper, but don’t know if it really made a difference
What's wrong with 2i2 2Gen? I use that for 5 years.
I am thinking of upgrading my audio interface (scarlett focusrite 6i6 2nd gen) Any suggestions on something comparable but more current?
Please, could you tell me what is the best budget and mid-tier audio interface in the market right now?
Are you planning on running any audio test with some of them? Curious on travel interfaces
For travel interfaces I'd give it to either the F3 or the MVX2u.
I took the plunge and got myself an SM7B based on a friend's recommendation.
Now, I'm diving into the world of audio interfaces for my setup and could really use your advice. I mainly use my gear for voice talent work and voiceovers, but I also like to dabble in recording for my singing hobbies.
Got any tips on choosing the right audio interface for me?
Imo as great as the SM7B is for podcasting and for streaming it's not a microphone I recommend for voiceacting and voiceover. Great explanation of it by a voiceactor here: th-cam.com/video/LjzY7ACXzzQ/w-d-xo.html
@@Dracomies What interface is good for SM7B?
Do you think the Focusrite Scarlett solo 3rd generation or Minifuse 1 is better?
They'll both get the job done. I'd say they're very close. Both will get the job done. I know that's not the answer you want to hear but imo there's no clear winner.