Hint: acquire yourself a 10’ piece of diamond (double) braid, but not in the usual 1/2”. Get a piece of fat 3/4” from the boat store. Much more comfy, and that’s your Swiss Seat rope for life. And a true climbing Figure 8.
it is far more comfortable, and less bulky, if you use 1" (25mm) flat tubular webbing rather than round cord. Good for very small adults, or teaching children to rappel or top rope if you do not have a small harness.
@@ZerolinGD It is good to know for emergency needs, but it has been used, and still used, for many years. it is still current in the military, and by some search and rescue groups, fire departments, as their routine when they need to rope up a rescue team. it is a vast improvement over tying into the end of a rope with a loop, that was used for many decades in the alps, and all the big walls in Yosemite were done without a harness. It is still a good skill to know for modern use.
Why did you bother putting the middle on your left hip if you were just going to reach around the front of your body and rotate the material so that the middle was behind you?
The goal of the middle on your left hip is to have the final knot end up on your left hip so that it is out of the way of a rappel strand that would go middle of my body or to my dominant right side. The rope may have shifted slightly but you can see the knot ended up on my left hip.
Thats ok, but you could equally have taken one giant loop, hold it behind you ans bring in a bight from left, right and between your legs. Tie a knot to create three indepwndant loops and bingo. The added benefit that one loop, maybe two could fail and you can still maintain connection to the syatem.
For me (an 80kg male with a stocky build using 8.4mm rope) it took 3.5 metres, which gave me ~10cms excess on each strand after the square knot!! Realistically I'd use 4 metres though, to allow more leftover line for safety reasons (or for any alterations you may require). Better yet, a 150cm sling is a much quicker lighter and compact way of doing it (with the sling method). Hope this helps.
Yeah…. Don’t do this. This is how you make a Swiss seat, but you need something with width to spread out the force. Webbing works well. Ropes will dig into you and at minimum be super uncomfortable, potentially damaging to tissue.
No such thing as an upside down carabiner, only a side loaded one. Yes it's often good to have a screw gate oriented so it locks via gravity but sometimes you need the wide end upwards so you can attach your belay and other devices with enough room for them all.
Ouch, that looks like it’ll be a super uncomfortable rappel! Would you do much differently if you had webbing available, to make it less uncomfortable?
@@summitseekersexperience a harness properly tied with 1" tubular can be quite comfortable. Not quite on par with a commercially manufactured harness, but no comparison to one tied with cord.
nice alternative using a 120 sling: put one arm through the sling put the sling round your back then under the other arm Tie the ends together with an overhand. No crotch saw, much less effort. you're welcome.
And to all the first timers, position your balls before repelling. You will thank me later.
Also known as a crotch saw.
HAHA we called it a "ranger seat" but your name is much more accurate.
My god I suddenly flashed back to JROTC.
Me to. And eagle tower at Benning
😂😂 SF
Gross
Fort Dix
Hint: acquire yourself a 10’ piece of diamond (double) braid, but not in the usual 1/2”. Get a piece of fat 3/4” from the boat store. Much more comfy, and that’s your Swiss Seat rope for life. And a true climbing Figure 8.
Really useful thank you
Flashback Swiss seat Ranger School.
Brought me back to Air Assault school 😂
If I ever have to do this I’ll probably wind up dead but thanks for trying!
Lol
🤣🤣🤣
Same tbh
I’ve been meaning to learn how to make a Swiss seat, thanks for the simple explanation
it is far more comfortable, and less bulky, if you use 1" (25mm) flat tubular webbing rather than round cord. Good for very small adults, or teaching children to rappel or top rope if you do not have a small harness.
the idea of this is in an emergency
@@ZerolinGD It is good to know for emergency needs, but it has been used, and still used, for many years. it is still current in the military, and by some search and rescue groups, fire departments, as their routine when they need to rope up a rescue team. it is a vast improvement over tying into the end of a rope with a loop, that was used for many decades in the alps, and all the big walls in Yosemite were done without a harness. It is still a good skill to know for modern use.
@@Petros98223 yes
@@Petros98223 Yeah but if you can prepare for this, you can also just use a harness.
Why did you bother putting the middle on your left hip if you were just going to reach around the front of your body and rotate the material so that the middle was behind you?
The goal of the middle on your left hip is to have the final knot end up on your left hip so that it is out of the way of a rappel strand that would go middle of my body or to my dominant right side. The rope may have shifted slightly but you can see the knot ended up on my left hip.
He’s right. Always start it away from your work space.
How long should the rope be?
this channel is dope!
👍👍
Thank you
Ah yes, memories of sophomore PE (Project Adventure - ropes course) in the early 90s. I wonder if they use pre-made harnesses now.
I'm actually wondering how reliable it is?
As reliable as the cordolette
Nice
Thank you for teaching me to be safer when I cut limbs from a ladder. I will be using this tomorrow as a back up to my ladder. Thank you
BITD Climbers didn’t use harnesses. They tied directly into the rope. Brutal, but of course falling was eschewed at all costs
Thats ok, but you could equally have taken one giant loop, hold it behind you ans bring in a bight from left, right and between your legs. Tie a knot to create three indepwndant loops and bingo. The added benefit that one loop, maybe two could fail and you can still maintain connection to the syatem.
A lot of ways to skin a cat
How to get suspension trauma in sixty seconds.
Well… if it’s this or downclimb an unclimbable cliff…
Which would you choose?
Military been using it for decades
soldiers with lots of gear used to use it . they did fine youre just spoiled and used to your comfy gear .
instructions unclear i fell off a 50 meter wall
Hey, how many metres rope?
Brilliant work 👍
6 or 7
@@summitseekersexperience18 to 21 feet? I doubt it...
I managed to do it with 4m 10 mm static rope but I could barely get second knots at the end. 4.5m would be perfect
Is there a preferred/better/no less than length of rope for this?
For me (an 80kg male with a stocky build using 8.4mm rope) it took 3.5 metres, which gave me ~10cms excess on each strand after the square knot!!
Realistically I'd use 4 metres though, to allow more leftover line for safety reasons (or for any alterations you may require).
Better yet, a 150cm sling is a much quicker lighter and compact way of doing it (with the sling method).
Hope this helps.
For anyone not familiar with metric, 4 metres is roughly 13ft.
you could also create a harness using karash knot...
th-cam.com/video/6EyfYyJkZss/w-d-xo.html
It’s a lazy triple bowline. Nothing groundbreaking.
Rope guru 👍
had to do this with internet cat 5e to get away once
Yeah…. Don’t do this. This is how you make a Swiss seat, but you need something with width to spread out the force. Webbing works well. Ropes will dig into you and at minimum be super uncomfortable, potentially damaging to tissue.
Carabiner was upside down.
No such thing as an upside down carabiner, only a side loaded one. Yes it's often good to have a screw gate oriented so it locks via gravity but sometimes you need the wide end upwards so you can attach your belay and other devices with enough room for them all.
Call this the moose knuckle enhancer
😂
every harness is
Wouldn't cut it blood circulation
It would not be comfortable… hence emergency use only
Great v
Gonna be pretty painful if you don't tighten it down before you weight it.
Probably gonna be painful either way 😉😉
AIR ASSAULT!!!!!
Ouch, that looks like it’ll be a super uncomfortable rappel! Would you do much differently if you had webbing available, to make it less uncomfortable?
Either way, won’t be fun
@@summitseekersexperience a harness properly tied with 1" tubular can be quite comfortable. Not quite on par with a commercially manufactured harness, but no comparison to one tied with cord.
This is called a Swiss seat and you skipped the tightening step.
Lets see it😂
Imagine taking a whipper
AIR ASSAULT
Show it with webbing- a Swiss seat.
And that's how you cut off circulation to your legs and genitals all at once! Brilliant
Ranger School harness
That's definitely not my preferred method lol.
Air assault baby, i could still do this to this day
YESSS!! I still recall going thru the Rappel Master course and going up and down all day in a Huey. The Aussie Rappel was fun AF, too!
@@RossPotts that's awesome good to know that some people still remember lol
Zesty
nice alternative using a 120 sling:
put one arm through the sling
put the sling round your back then under the other arm
Tie the ends together with an overhand.
No crotch saw, much less effort. you're welcome.
Mmmhhhmmmm juicy
Yay air assault!
cant wait to take a big ass whipper on this, fr this is cool af though
How many feet is that cordalette?
Looks like 10-12
6 meters
@@elih5948 off by 10 feet. 👍
We used about a 15-foot section in the Army. Also, we used de-commissioned rappelling rope sections.
Gyatt
this video would be banned in Uganda