This is awesome. Every grip Ive ever had for Canon and Sony cameras had to be inserted into the battery slot, so you could only have 2 batteries in the grip. This lets you keep the one in camera and have 3. Excellent.
I've been on the fence about this very expensive grip the entire time the camera has been out and this has sold me on it, I was worried I wouldn't feel comfortable using the controls in portrait mode compared to my landscape ones but all my functions are there! thanks so much for the review!
Renata Vanadia I was concerned too be for buying the grip. I was pleasantly surprised; now even though it weighs a bit more and makes the camera bigger, I only ever take the grip off to use the camera with a gimbal. The upsides of having the grip far outweigh the downsides.
For a long while I was hesitant on buying one but got a great deal from china for 50$ brand new in box. I'm amazed the joystick on the grip is better than the one on the camera
As for the cap for the pins on the battery grip. Well I carry an old 35mm film canister container to put it in to put in my camera bag. Yes I know it sounds stupid, but I have a far better chance of finding it again when I separate out my camera again.
Just got the XT4 battery grip and the shutter button on the grip does not half press for focus like the normal shutter button on the camera. Is this normal or is my grips shutter defective? I assume this isn’t normal but haven’t been able to find confirmation one way or the other online.
Thank you for pointing this out 😅. I will update this video with your correction😎. Thank you for watching. If you have any video requests, please let me know.
Hey there! Great video! I'm really interested into getting this camera for still and movie. Now may question ist why does the grip doesn't work with the ronin rsc2? Because my thoughts was for some occasion it would be very practical to balance the system. For example with the 50-140
It’s awesome that you are interested in getting in to photography and cinematography. However, the grip cannot be used with the Ronin SC or even the Ronin S. With the grip attached to the camera, the camera sits too high and cannot be balanced correctly to allow a full range of movement. The original Ronin-SC can’t balance the 50-140mm 2.8 lens.
@@IsobarBrokenFlame maybe with a camera cage oder some like that? Currently im owning a xt-20 which is great and it works so good with the 50-140. I'd really love to see the combination with an xt4 and a gimbal.. Or my girlfriend would love to have this option because at the moment she's stuck with a canon 1100d and she's really interested in making some car clips but the camera is a huge limiting factor
@@PH1N0 I honest don’t know if the Ronin-SC2 would work. But the Ronin-S2 would be your best bet. It has the best payload rating, as well as ability to balance larger lenses.
@@IsobarBrokenFlame payload wise its no problem but the room for probably balancing a setup like this could be to small... Maybe i just need to go to a local camera shop after the lockdown...
@@PH1N0 that would probably be best. Let me know how you get on. I bought the original Ronin-S and Ronin-SC, the Ronin-SC doesn’t work with anything but Prime Lenses, but the Robin S can balance the f2.8 18-55mm.
@@IsobarBrokenFlame you have touched on every single aspect of this device and thus helped people come up with a proper, educated opinion. Production quality is not as important and I myself appreciate a straight to the point video rather than a video filled with B-roll, fluff and nonsense talk :) Keep up the good work :)
Does the camera work if you have a battery in either or both grip bays, but not in the camera itself? I've heard that leaving the battery out of the camera itself helps with the overheating issue when doing 4k60FPS.
You can place the batteries in a any combination of the available slots. I’ve ran the camera with just a single batter in the grip. You are free to decide how you load the batteries into the grip and/or camera.
It won’t work with the original Ronin S because it makes the camera too tall, and the center of gravity to heigh up, meaning it can’t be balanced. I do not own the RS2 so I can’t comment on the RS2’s capabilities.
Can you use 3rd party batteries like wasabi with the t4 grip? Think I heard the xt3 grip had issues with those batteries. But haven’t seen people tested on xt4
I just got a brand new one for my new fuji xt4 install it and none of the buttons work, except the Normal, Economy and Boost switch. The display on camera shows 3 batteries which means is connected but nothing works. Any suggestion?
Occasionally, the camera doesn’t recognise the grip. Switch off the camera. Disconnect the grip, clean the contacts on the camera, and the reconnect the grip. Then switch the camera back on and try again. If this doesn’t work, you may have a faulty with either the grip or camera. You can try taking it to a camera shop and asking them to try the grip on one of their demo cameras. This will help you to determine if it is an issue with the grip or the camera.
@@IsobarBrokenFlame definetly, i am also using x-t4 by the way, and very happy with it. I’m planning to buy this useful grip and your video really Help me about to get my decision.
Does the locking ring have any detent to prevent it from unscrewing? I'm wondering how safe this would be if I were to hang it from a Peak Design Capture Clip, I'd hate to have it unscew itself and drop the camera.
I’m not sure I understand the question. The screw that mounts the battery grip to the camera is very secure. With small indentation on the thumb knob. I wouldn’t imaging them grip coming loose from the camera. I’ve had this for over a year and the screw has never come loose.
The grip does provide a 3.5mm headphone jack, although you can use the USB to 3.5mm cable included with camera. But, doesn’t unlock any additional functionality. Obviously you get the advantage of a bigger grip, with buttons relocated for portrait photography, and the ability to hold two extra batteries. But that’s it really.
Wish I had seen this before buying my grip just ordered it with two batteries I could have waited and got the battery’s later :) You mention it uses them in sequence the one got the x-t3 was supposed to do this as well but mine seemed to take a bit from each so they all drained at once. Is there something to be done in-camera for this feature or is it an update? Nice review btw I can’t wait for mine to arrive :)
There is a small draw on all the batteries, but my unit tends to draw most the power from the right battery, followed by the internal battery, then the left battery (As viewed from the back of the camera). They won’t all drain at the same time. I used this on a wedding shoot, and finished the shoot on a single battery. I’m unaware of any update or camera setting for the way the batteries are used. I hope you enjoy using the grip.
@@IsobarBrokenFlame Thanks that's handy to know :) can I ask you said you shoot the whole wedding on a single battery how many images was that? I tend not to over shoot myself no one really wants thousand of images to go through. Do you also have camera in normal or boost mode just wondering what that would do to battery's before testing it alongside my D810's as backup for weddings :)
I had two X-T4 at the wedding. 1 camera had 3 batteries in it (1 internal and 2 in the grip). The other camera just used a single battery. In total there was a little over 2000 photos, as well as a 4 minute 4K@24fps video of the couples first dance.
@@IsobarBrokenFlame Awesome thanks for letting me know :) its how I was planning to do things using my D810 as back up for now but will switch to 2 x-t4'S when ready. I am thinking of getting the fuji 16-55 2.8 for weddings do you think its good enough for low light wedding situations if now what would you recommend.
@@kencox6166 the noise performance isn’t bad on the X-T4, but I have very low tolerance to noise. I ran the f2.8 50-140mm and the f2.8 16-55mm outside during the day as it is so much more convenient. However inside the venue I run f1.4 35mm and f1.0 50mm as this gave great low light performance, and more flexibility between rooms.
Please tell me what photo editing software you recommend for Fuji cameras. I remember when the XT three came out light wrong produced very poor results on Fuji files
Hi @stoplossM4, I use Adobe Photoshop with Adobe RAW. Adobe has updated the software to work directly with the FujiFilm X-T4 raw format (uncompressed), and I get reasonably good results with this. Software based sharpening is required thought. On the weekend I’ll take and edit some photographs, in the hope of showing how I pull studio quality results from setup.
@@stoplossM4 Hi, due to the lock down in the UK, I didn't get out this weekend to take any photos. I will try to take some product photos and cut together a video for you to watch for next weekend. I'm not a product photographer but I'll do my best, to get you some good results.
Each battery will last over an hour with continuous recording of 4K DCI at 24fps to an external recorder. But I have never tied just recording till the battery goes flat. However, it is going to depend on the condition of the batteries as well. My batteries are still considered to be new so they are able to store a bit more charge than older batteries. I would guess if I tried I could shoot for 3 hours straight with the three batteries. But as the Ronin S doesn't really accommodate the battery grip with the top mounted GPS unit, it is unlikely that I would ever try. I'm reasonably happy swapping out the batteries every 1 hour or so, or charging off the USB port while recording.
With a grip, and still less battery life than my Nikon d850 with one battery ugh. I was gonna get one for my xt4 but that’s still pretty low, but it is mirrorless , I guess.
I did a Wedding shoot in August 2021. I used all three batteries starting at 10am and finishing at midnight. I took over 1000 photos, and still had 10% left on the final battery. The camera stayed on most of the time, but did get switched off for the sit down meal.
@@IsobarBrokenFlame damn that's sad. I really wanna get this camera for video making, but I know the only flaw it has is the overheating idk what to do and I don't really like the Sony cameras that much
Najm Gamer I have to be honest, I live in a moderately cool climate. So overheating isn’t an issue for me at all. Sony’s autofocus and object tracking is simply the best on the market at the moment. Object tracking is missing from the X-T4. If you are pulling focus then there is a lot of choice on the market.
@@IsobarBrokenFlame so is it just worth it to get the xt3. I just want crisp beautiful video, I can afford the xt4 but why buy the more expensive thing if it's barely different. I can get a battery grip and a gimbal for the xt3 wouldn't it be just as good as xt4
Najm Gamer the. X-T3 is a good camera, and it is very similar to the X-T4. As production quality has improve dramatically over the last few years with most people using gimbals, steadycams or some other mechanical device to get smooth movements. You’ll probably find IBIS isn’t good enough for TH-cam or even home videos now. I use a Gimbal (Ronin S) if I’m doing video with the X-T4, or I’ll use a GoPro with HyperSmooth switched on. So for video an X-T3 with a Gimbal is a good way to go. However you should consider the improvements provided by the X-T4. A larger battery, an improve facial recognition and focus. One the biggest issues with the X-T4 and the X-T3 is the lack of object tracking, which means you’ll often find yourself pulling focus manually or tapping the screen to focus on a different area.
I almost bought one of these. I have a 'cage' with a handle that addresses the comfort issue. I had hoped there was some other way to charge these batteries than thru the usb-c on the camera body. There is a fear that these delicate plugs on the camera are going to wear out, esp doing double duty with the headphones out, (another story.) If paying 300+ is still gonna have that bottle-neck, i don't need it.
This is awesome. Every grip Ive ever had for Canon and Sony cameras had to be inserted into the battery slot, so you could only have 2 batteries in the grip. This lets you keep the one in camera and have 3. Excellent.
Which I dont personally like. Full day event photoshooting in summer heat - I want those batteries outside of body to prevent overheating.
I've been on the fence about this very expensive grip the entire time the camera has been out and this has sold me on it, I was worried I wouldn't feel comfortable using the controls in portrait mode compared to my landscape ones but all my functions are there! thanks so much for the review!
Renata Vanadia I was concerned too be for buying the grip. I was pleasantly surprised; now even though it weighs a bit more and makes the camera bigger, I only ever take the grip off to use the camera with a gimbal.
The upsides of having the grip far outweigh the downsides.
From China it's 50$, brand new in box.
Great review! Very comprehensive. Just what I was looking for.
For a long while I was hesitant on buying one but got a great deal from china for 50$ brand new in box. I'm amazed the joystick on the grip is better than the one on the camera
As for the cap for the pins on the battery grip. Well I carry an old 35mm film canister container to put it in to put in my camera bag. Yes I know it sounds stupid, but I have a far better chance of finding it again when I separate out my camera again.
Excellent review young man. Thank you very much.
Good video! Just ordered mine!
Just got the XT4 battery grip and the shutter button on the grip does not half press for focus like the normal shutter button on the camera. Is this normal or is my grips shutter defective? I assume this isn’t normal but haven’t been able to find confirmation one way or the other online.
Sorry but it sounds like you have a defective grip. The grip shutter bottom should behave like the camera’s shutter button.
@@IsobarBrokenFlame Thanks for the confirmation!
green is when batteries are not charged (no glowing on the xt4), it is when there's no light that batteries are charged
Thank you for pointing this out 😅. I will update this video with your correction😎.
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Thanks for a great review!
Very thorough review. Many thanks!
Thank you for the content!
great through review, thank you for sharing
Nice job, thanks for sharing, I do have xt3 with the extra battery’s and it’s pain on the ass because I have to charge it most the time.
Freakin' hate how they made the grip bigger! It's almost as big as the camera! Could've keep it the same as the XT2s and XT3s! 😤
It was made bigger to accommodate the larger battery size.
Thanks man, very helpful. It's ridiculously big though. I think I'll stick to having an extra battery for now
Batdroid I completely understand. If you stick the smaller 23mm f/2.0 prime lenses on the camera with the grip attached it does look a bit comical.
Thanks!
Excellent review
Hey there! Great video! I'm really interested into getting this camera for still and movie. Now may question ist why does the grip doesn't work with the ronin rsc2? Because my thoughts was for some occasion it would be very practical to balance the system. For example with the 50-140
It’s awesome that you are interested in getting in to photography and cinematography.
However, the grip cannot be used with the Ronin SC or even the Ronin S. With the grip attached to the camera, the camera sits too high and cannot be balanced correctly to allow a full range of movement.
The original Ronin-SC can’t balance the 50-140mm 2.8 lens.
@@IsobarBrokenFlame maybe with a camera cage oder some like that? Currently im owning a xt-20 which is great and it works so good with the 50-140. I'd really love to see the combination with an xt4 and a gimbal.. Or my girlfriend would love to have this option because at the moment she's stuck with a canon 1100d and she's really interested in making some car clips but the camera is a huge limiting factor
@@PH1N0 I honest don’t know if the Ronin-SC2 would work. But the Ronin-S2 would be your best bet. It has the best payload rating, as well as ability to balance larger lenses.
@@IsobarBrokenFlame payload wise its no problem but the room for probably balancing a setup like this could be to small...
Maybe i just need to go to a local camera shop after the lockdown...
@@PH1N0 that would probably be best. Let me know how you get on.
I bought the original Ronin-S and Ronin-SC, the Ronin-SC doesn’t work with anything but Prime Lenses, but the Robin S can balance the f2.8 18-55mm.
Great work done here, kudos!
Thanks. I try to make my videos worth while. I appreciate my production quality isn’t their yet. But I try to make sure the content is worth while.
@@IsobarBrokenFlame you have touched on every single aspect of this device and thus helped people come up with a proper, educated opinion. Production quality is not as important and I myself appreciate a straight to the point video rather than a video filled with B-roll, fluff and nonsense talk :) Keep up the good work :)
Thanks for the video, do all the buttons work on the grip if it has just the internal battery in the camera, or just the mode switch?
All the switches work, even if you only use the cameras internal battery and do not have any batteries in the grip.
Does the camera work if you have a battery in either or both grip bays, but not in the camera itself? I've heard that leaving the battery out of the camera itself helps with the overheating issue when doing 4k60FPS.
You can place the batteries in a any combination of the available slots. I’ve ran the camera with just a single batter in the grip.
You are free to decide how you load the batteries into the grip and/or camera.
Why can’t you use it with a gimbal - because it makes it too heavy? Would it work with the RS2? Thanks!
It won’t work with the original Ronin S because it makes the camera too tall, and the center of gravity to heigh up, meaning it can’t be balanced.
I do not own the RS2 so I can’t comment on the RS2’s capabilities.
Can you use 3rd party batteries like wasabi with the t4 grip? Think I heard the xt3 grip had issues with those batteries. But haven’t seen people tested on xt4
Unfortunately, I do not know if 3rd parties batteries can be used with the X-T4 or the VG-XT4.
I just got a brand new one for my new fuji xt4 install it and none of the buttons work, except the Normal, Economy and Boost switch. The display on camera shows 3 batteries which means is connected but nothing works. Any suggestion?
Occasionally, the camera doesn’t recognise the grip. Switch off the camera. Disconnect the grip, clean the contacts on the camera, and the reconnect the grip. Then switch the camera back on and try again.
If this doesn’t work, you may have a faulty with either the grip or camera. You can try taking it to a camera shop and asking them to try the grip on one of their demo cameras. This will help you to determine if it is an issue with the grip or the camera.
Nice review!
Thanks I'm glad you liked it. I hope it helped in some way.
@@IsobarBrokenFlame definetly, i am also using x-t4 by the way, and very happy with it. I’m planning to buy this useful grip and your video really Help me about to get my decision.
Does the locking ring have any detent to prevent it from unscrewing? I'm wondering how safe this would be if I were to hang it from a Peak Design Capture Clip, I'd hate to have it unscew itself and drop the camera.
I’m not sure I understand the question.
The screw that mounts the battery grip to the camera is very secure. With small indentation on the thumb knob.
I wouldn’t imaging them grip coming loose from the camera. I’ve had this for over a year and the screw has never come loose.
Does it comes with the batteries
Batteries are not included. You need to buy the batteries separately.
Do you still need to get the grip to unlock more functions? Like more burst rate / better tracking in the X-T2/X-T3
The grip does provide a 3.5mm headphone jack, although you can use the USB to 3.5mm cable included with camera. But, doesn’t unlock any additional functionality.
Obviously you get the advantage of a bigger grip, with buttons relocated for portrait photography, and the ability to hold two extra batteries. But that’s it really.
@@IsobarBrokenFlame Thank you for replying. I suppose now its a matter of saving a few $ if I get the grip included or body only.
Is the camera still WR "weather resistant" with the battery grip on?
Yes, the X-T4 and the grip are both weather resistant.
Wish I had seen this before buying my grip just ordered it with two batteries I could have waited and got the battery’s later :) You mention it uses them in sequence the one got the x-t3 was supposed to do this as well but mine seemed to take a bit from each so they all drained at once. Is there something to be done in-camera for this feature or is it an update? Nice review btw I can’t wait for mine to arrive :)
There is a small draw on all the batteries, but my unit tends to draw most the power from the right battery, followed by the internal battery, then the left battery (As viewed from the back of the camera). They won’t all drain at the same time. I used this on a wedding shoot, and finished the shoot on a single battery.
I’m unaware of any update or camera setting for the way the batteries are used.
I hope you enjoy using the grip.
@@IsobarBrokenFlame Thanks that's handy to know :) can I ask you said you shoot the whole wedding on a single battery how many images was that? I tend not to over shoot myself no one really wants thousand of images to go through. Do you also have camera in normal or boost mode just wondering what that would do to battery's before testing it alongside my D810's as backup for weddings :)
I had two X-T4 at the wedding. 1 camera had 3 batteries in it (1 internal and 2 in the grip). The other camera just used a single battery. In total there was a little over 2000 photos, as well as a 4 minute 4K@24fps video of the couples first dance.
@@IsobarBrokenFlame Awesome thanks for letting me know :) its how I was planning to do things using my D810 as back up for now but will switch to 2 x-t4'S when ready. I am thinking of getting the fuji 16-55 2.8 for weddings do you think its good enough for low light wedding situations if now what would you recommend.
@@kencox6166 the noise performance isn’t bad on the X-T4, but I have very low tolerance to noise. I ran the f2.8 50-140mm and the f2.8 16-55mm outside during the day as it is so much more convenient.
However inside the venue I run f1.4 35mm and f1.0 50mm as this gave great low light performance, and more flexibility between rooms.
Please tell me what photo editing software you recommend for Fuji cameras. I remember when the XT three came out light wrong produced very poor results on Fuji files
Hi @stoplossM4,
I use Adobe Photoshop with Adobe RAW. Adobe has updated the software to work directly with the FujiFilm X-T4 raw format (uncompressed), and I get reasonably good results with this.
Software based sharpening is required thought. On the weekend I’ll take and edit some photographs, in the hope of showing how I pull studio quality results from setup.
@@IsobarBrokenFlame ok thanks a lot 🙏🏾
@@stoplossM4 Hi, due to the lock down in the UK, I didn't get out this weekend to take any photos. I will try to take some product photos and cut together a video for you to watch for next weekend. I'm not a product photographer but I'll do my best, to get you some good results.
@@IsobarBrokenFlame no worries. Thanks a lot.
Photoshop CC 2021
How many hours you can shoot with that in video?
Each battery will last over an hour with continuous recording of 4K DCI at 24fps to an external recorder. But I have never tied just recording till the battery goes flat. However, it is going to depend on the condition of the batteries as well. My batteries are still considered to be new so they are able to store a bit more charge than older batteries.
I would guess if I tried I could shoot for 3 hours straight with the three batteries. But as the Ronin S doesn't really accommodate the battery grip with the top mounted GPS unit, it is unlikely that I would ever try. I'm reasonably happy swapping out the batteries every 1 hour or so, or charging off the USB port while recording.
With a grip, and still less battery life than my Nikon d850 with one battery ugh.
I was gonna get one for my xt4 but that’s still pretty low, but it is mirrorless , I guess.
I did a Wedding shoot in August 2021. I used all three batteries starting at 10am and finishing at midnight.
I took over 1000 photos, and still had 10% left on the final battery. The camera stayed on most of the time, but did get switched off for the sit down meal.
@@IsobarBrokenFlame I can get 1500 from one battery on the d850, that’s what I’m saying. I use both cameras.
Does the grip help reduce overheating
Najm Gamer, in my experience the grip makes no difference to cooling or heating.
@@IsobarBrokenFlame damn that's sad. I really wanna get this camera for video making, but I know the only flaw it has is the overheating idk what to do and I don't really like the Sony cameras that much
Najm Gamer I have to be honest, I live in a moderately cool climate. So overheating isn’t an issue for me at all.
Sony’s autofocus and object tracking is simply the best on the market at the moment. Object tracking is missing from the X-T4.
If you are pulling focus then there is a lot of choice on the market.
@@IsobarBrokenFlame so is it just worth it to get the xt3. I just want crisp beautiful video, I can afford the xt4 but why buy the more expensive thing if it's barely different. I can get a battery grip and a gimbal for the xt3 wouldn't it be just as good as xt4
Najm Gamer the. X-T3 is a good camera, and it is very similar to the X-T4.
As production quality has improve dramatically over the last few years with most people using gimbals, steadycams or some other mechanical device to get smooth movements. You’ll probably find IBIS isn’t good enough for TH-cam or even home videos now.
I use a Gimbal (Ronin S) if I’m doing video with the X-T4, or I’ll use a GoPro with HyperSmooth switched on. So for video an X-T3 with a Gimbal is a good way to go.
However you should consider the improvements provided by the X-T4. A larger battery, an improve facial recognition and focus.
One the biggest issues with the X-T4 and the X-T3 is the lack of object tracking, which means you’ll often find yourself pulling focus manually or tapping the screen to focus on a different area.
I almost bought one of these. I have a 'cage' with a handle that addresses the comfort issue. I had hoped there was some other way to charge these batteries than thru the usb-c on the camera body. There is a fear that these delicate plugs on the camera are going to wear out, esp doing double duty with the headphones out, (another story.) If paying 300+ is still gonna have that bottle-neck, i don't need it.
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can you charge and film? :)
@duktu The USB-C port can be used to charge the Camera while taking photos or recording video.