Hi Jamie, I am in Australia, got a real lot out of your TH-cam, thanks for taking the effort, you said in the TH-cam you would put some info in the description about the unit and where you got it from but I can’t seem to find it, could you forward to me, I have a pellet heater here in Victoria and I love it but it uses at least 1 kg bag of hard wood pellets a day which at best costs me $10-15 AUD to buy and becoming too expensive to run, only way out I think is to produce my own and maybe get a few family or friends to buy a heater to, Happy to put you down as a referee if you get some kick back as you deserve it mate, thanks
Thank you so much, Super informative i was about to build one to make pellets from wood chips for gasification purposes but im not gonna bother whit it as the wood chips at already pretty decent size , pelletizeing the is to much of a Hussel
So for a update my 9 inch 3 roller 25hp pellet mill i bought from pellet pros in Wisconsin usa puts out so far 750 pounds a hr feeding by hand.Thats my top out put which i believe will increase a little to around 800 or better when i have it fed with my auger so i can concentrate on keeping my pellet cooler moving and bagger system running.Everything is home made and i ran 1 ton in 4hrs and 45 minutes because i had to learn my machine.Now im running chicken feed and it makes beautiful pellets.Just thought you would like to hear lol im pretty happy
I have a 360mm mill and i am having trouble with the wood going through. When i start the mill i always run grain to warm it up, and when i am running the grain it comes out very good when i switch over to wood i do not get hardly any pellets to come out and if i start putting grain through again it comes out very good. U said the thickness of the die can make a difference, how thick is the die u are running.
Hi Jamie, very informative video! The tip around letting the machine up is super handy. I'm based in New Zealand and have recently purchased a similar sized machine from china, although mine is powered by a 15kw electric motor. I have yet to produce decent quality pellets and am working through a few things that might be causing the problems. In your video you mentioned that tightening the large nut that holds the rollers down. I've been hand tightening the first nut and then locking the second with a wrench... Sounds like I could be tightening the rollers more? I was under the impression that there should be a small gap between the die and rollers? Thanks in advance, Jacob
Hi Jacob... is it a roller turned machine like mine so you just have the large nuts in the middle? Just tighten them down with a little force. The BIGGEST factor determining pellets is moisture content it MUST be consistent and around 10-12%. Also sawdust size, I uses shavings from planer which are quite fluffy so I can feed it in quicker... if it is say dust you have to go slower... also I use Oak only... no bark, no impurities...can you describe exactly the material you are using?
@@PelletJamie Thanks Jamie, yes my machine is also a roller turned mill. From what I can tell it is almost the same as yours. I have noticed that the moisture content plays a major role, but am yet to perfect this, amongst all the other variables. I am using a wood crusher (chipper and hammer mill in one) to process firewood sized pieces of predominantly cherry wood (with bark, although cherry bark is quite thin compared to other woods) into small chips. The wood I’m using ranged from seasoned outside for a year to 2 months so the moisture content varies quite a bit. If I can get the pellet mill to produce decent pellets then I will likely invest in a drum chip dryer. For now I’m experimenting with batch drying the chip…. I have yet to find an efficient way to do this as chipping into a large fertiliser bag results in the top layer of chip drying much faster than the bottom layers (which become more compressed). The other obvious option is drying the chip on a large tarpaulin…? I’ll try tightening the roller nuts, and letting the machine warm up fully with cherry chip at 10-12% moisture content and report back.
@@jacobfreeman6611 how do you mean chips of wood? What size exactly? If you are breaking down logs it must go through a hammer mill to take it to a fine grain of less than the pellet hole hole size... I go down to 5mm... the finished product looks like fine rice... all consistent size. When it is that size I feed it quite slow as it is alot more dense than from a planer. Yeah for drying it is a bit of a pain... Just got to wait for nice weather and spread it out om a tarp...but it dries very quickly
@@PelletJamie Sorry for the confusion, by chips I mean wood that has passed through the hammer mill. The chipper/ hammer mill I use has a screen with 4mm holes so everything comes out nice and consistent. Its encouraging to hear that the feed material doesn't take too long to dry on a nice day.
@@PelletJamieHi Jamie. Bit of an update. I tightened the main nuts retaining the roller assembly, ensured the machine was hot enough (too hot to touch the die) and used wood chip (processed with a chipper and hammer mill) at around 11% moisture content. The pellets still came out poorly formed (some very crumbly) with a lot of dust in the mix too. Any ideas? Cheers, Jacob
I have a pellet mill that I have been having issues with the dye plate getting clogged. Its a 220v motor and a 6mm dye plate. i try to get my material around 12-15% moisture and I grain mill the material so it is basically a sawdust. the mill is at 220-280F before i start adding to make pellets. it runs well for a while but then it clogs the dye after about 20 mins. the pellets clogging the mill are solid and completely dry. I'm a letting the dye get to hot or is the moisture content to low?
@primespawn4209 hmm.. 220v... usually those are only small motors.. the 4-6kw are really for feed and not wood... also the Dye plates are specifically manufactured for wood pellets.. sounds like you may have a feed plate?
@@PelletJamie it is a feed pellet mill, i have been using it to make pellets out of apples but when I mill it is just like sawdust so that could be the issue. thank you for the information! i will look into upgrading my hardware.
Hi Do you mean compression ratio = Biomass pallets / Sawdust( Raw material)? How to select compression ratio?? Any thumb rule for selecting the thickness of disc By varying the disc/ Roller speed can we get better output Do you suggest to heat up the raw material by heating /spraying steam What is the temperature of pallets coming out of the machine
Hey Abhijit, The compression ratio is fixed to the thickness of the die plate when it is manufactured. For biomass you need a higher (thicker) compression ratio than wood. Yes the faster it spins the more output. Yes run slightly wet material through on startup so that the steam heats up the die plate. Never actually tested the exact temperature but too hot to touch would say 60/70 degrees C at least.
My tractor is 63HP and this is a 350mm (12 inch?!)... making wood pellets requires quite a bit more oomph so it sounds like your new machine will be perfect for making feed. Good Luck.
@@PelletJamie the company pellet masters told me the 3 roller 230mm die should produce 500 pounds easy with the mash feed im running just gotta make my own pellet cooler and bagging system so pray for me lol 😆 redneck engineering will be in full effect
@@PelletJamie ps this machine im buying is built for wood pellets salesman said with the higher torque from the wood mill it should be easy to make feed pellets im running a 30hp kubota
@@PelletJamie Ok i have the kl360 mill identical to yours running with 90hp tractor 1. How tight do you tighten the rollers 2. my die does not seem to stay hot or get hot enough. If i recycle the out put untill i get good pellets then start to intriduce new material the pellets get larger and crumbly. 3 I have had the sawdust at 15/18 % moisture . I also tried straw , the pellets are a little better but seem expanded. 4. How important is the drive speed My tractor can run at 1000rpm pto then i can run at half throttle so near the 540rpm . have you tried straw with your mill?
@@user-il3pm9kd2n Hi, I tighten the roller with a fair amount of force, it should come with a large nut and a bar about 60cms long, I put that in and put my body weight on it. OK this really is a game about Moisture Level, Feed speed, Wood particle size, type of wood/material. Firstly your moisture is too high. It is dependant on material but I don't put anything more than 12%, with pure Oak it is less than 10% basically kiln dried. Anything more and I am having to put it back through which as you have found out is not desirable... it takes off moisture inconsistently and goes dry and crumbly very quickly with each pass.. the key is getting the moisture content FIRST time, when this occurs it makes beautiful pellets quickly. If you are going to burn the straw in a pellet Mill you are going to need to add 1%lime as it corrdes and ashes the pellet stoves. I would reccomend trying to only use hardwood and pine if desperate. My tractor speed is only 580 so I don't know what it is like at the Higher speed? But here is the other thing that higher moisture content = less heat on the mill... so get it down to ~10% and try again.. see how you get on... there is quite alot of trial and error.. but once you hit that sweetspot you will understand. Cheers
Good question. I pay no utility bills, that is what off grid means to me. Off grid does not mean living like a hermit. It is a fair point about the Internet. If the government want to Intervene and put taxes on it, then I will have to look at another avenue. I get the feeling given your videos of lots of cartoons and games that you are not actually interested in Pellet Mills or living off grid and are happy suckling at the teet of the state?
@@Pepperoni290 As I say the government don't raise a tax on phone or Internet so I am just buying under capatalist transaction (which is great). The notion of being completely independent from the state is a goal, but I am a realist so really just doing most of this to save money... which I have. Keep boosting.
@@Pepperoni290 Do you remember 2020-2022? When the governments of 3.5billion innocent people put them on house arrest and segregated society into a two tier system based on a medical procedure that was poison and forced you to put a piece of cloth over your children's faces and stopped them going to school and banned anyone who opposed these measures etc etc etc.. Did you support these measures?
@@PelletJamie Je viens de commander la même KL400P et je cherche toutes les infos concernant ces machines 🙂 Je vais faire des pellets de paille pour le chauffage car je suis agriculteur ! Pouvez-vous me dire à quoi je dois faire attention ?
@@lionelu2005 Bien sur on peut discuter. Felicitation et bienvenue a la monde du farbrique des pellets! Donc vos presse marche avec le prise de force aussi? Il tourn les rouleur ou le matrice? Une astuce, si vous voulez bruler les pellets de paille vous devez met des chaux (1%) de dans avant presser parce que il limiter le cendre et le chimique (chlorine) dans le paille qui rouille le tuyau de la peole a granule.
@@PelletJamie La machine que j’ai commandé a des rouleaux tournants et fonctionne sur prise de force tracteur, je vais la faire fonctionner avec un moteur diesel BMW de 140 hp, j’espère que j’aurai un bon débit de pellets car je ne veux pas y passer tout mon temps…🙂
@@lionelu2005 😅 ca va marche avec le moteur 👏! Parfait, les rouleux qui tourn sont meilleur. Le humidite dois etre 8-12% et il est plus vite si tu broyeur le paille avec une broyeur de marteau a moins de 5mm.
Hi Jamie, I am in Australia, got a real lot out of your TH-cam, thanks for taking the effort, you said in the TH-cam you would put some info in the description about the unit and where you got it from but I can’t seem to find it, could you forward to me, I have a pellet heater here in Victoria and I love it but it uses at least 1 kg bag of hard wood pellets a day which at best costs me $10-15 AUD to buy and becoming too expensive to run, only way out I think is to produce my own and maybe get a few family or friends to buy a heater to, Happy to put you down as a referee if you get some kick back as you deserve it mate, thanks
@@Bigal61 I just got it on Alibaba.. I have sent a link somewhere else on this or other videos..
Thank you so much, Super informative i was about to build one to make pellets from wood chips for gasification purposes but im not gonna bother whit it as the wood chips at already pretty decent size , pelletizeing the is to much of a Hussel
So for a update my 9 inch 3 roller 25hp pellet mill i bought from pellet pros in Wisconsin usa puts out so far 750 pounds a hr feeding by hand.Thats my top out put which i believe will increase a little to around 800 or better when i have it fed with my auger so i can concentrate on keeping my pellet cooler moving and bagger system running.Everything is home made and i ran 1 ton in 4hrs and 45 minutes because i had to learn my machine.Now im running chicken feed and it makes beautiful pellets.Just thought you would like to hear lol im pretty happy
Very informative video. Thanks for sharing
I have a 360mm mill and i am having trouble with the wood going through. When i start the mill i always run grain to warm it up, and when i am running the grain it comes out very good when i switch over to wood i do not get hardly any pellets to come out and if i start putting grain through again it comes out very good. U said the thickness of the die can make a difference, how thick is the die u are running.
Nice work Jamie, I'm interested in having a chat when I next see you 👍
Hi Clive. Do I know you? Always around to discuss. Cheers Jamie
@@PelletJamie yes our children go to the same school, we spoke very briefly.
@@clive1890 Ah hey! I am in the UK until 10th Jan.. then back. If you want to come round to the house can show you the setup. Cheers J
Hi Jamie, very informative video! The tip around letting the machine up is super handy. I'm based in New Zealand and have recently purchased a similar sized machine from china, although mine is powered by a 15kw electric motor. I have yet to produce decent quality pellets and am working through a few things that might be causing the problems. In your video you mentioned that tightening the large nut that holds the rollers down. I've been hand tightening the first nut and then locking the second with a wrench... Sounds like I could be tightening the rollers more? I was under the impression that there should be a small gap between the die and rollers? Thanks in advance, Jacob
Hi Jacob... is it a roller turned machine like mine so you just have the large nuts in the middle? Just tighten them down with a little force.
The BIGGEST factor determining pellets is moisture content it MUST be consistent and around 10-12%. Also sawdust size, I uses shavings from planer which are quite fluffy so I can feed it in quicker... if it is say dust you have to go slower... also I use Oak only... no bark, no impurities...can you describe exactly the material you are using?
@@PelletJamie Thanks Jamie, yes my machine is also a roller turned mill. From what I can tell it is almost the same as yours. I have noticed that the moisture content plays a major role, but am yet to perfect this, amongst all the other variables. I am using a wood crusher (chipper and hammer mill in one) to process firewood sized pieces of predominantly cherry wood (with bark, although cherry bark is quite thin compared to other woods) into small chips. The wood I’m using ranged from seasoned outside for a year to 2 months so the moisture content varies quite a bit. If I can get the pellet mill to produce decent pellets then I will likely invest in a drum chip dryer. For now I’m experimenting with batch drying the chip…. I have yet to find an efficient way to do this as chipping into a large fertiliser bag results in the top layer of chip drying much faster than the bottom layers (which become more compressed). The other obvious option is drying the chip on a large tarpaulin…? I’ll try tightening the roller nuts, and letting the machine warm up fully with cherry chip at 10-12% moisture content and report back.
@@jacobfreeman6611 how do you mean chips of wood? What size exactly? If you are breaking down logs it must go through a hammer mill to take it to a fine grain of less than the pellet hole hole size... I go down to 5mm... the finished product looks like fine rice... all consistent size. When it is that size I feed it quite slow as it is alot more dense than from a planer.
Yeah for drying it is a bit of a pain... Just got to wait for nice weather and spread it out om a tarp...but it dries very quickly
@@PelletJamie Sorry for the confusion, by chips I mean wood that has passed through the hammer mill. The chipper/ hammer mill I use has a screen with 4mm holes so everything comes out nice and consistent. Its encouraging to hear that the feed material doesn't take too long to dry on a nice day.
@@PelletJamieHi Jamie. Bit of an update. I tightened the main nuts retaining the roller assembly, ensured the machine was hot enough (too hot to touch the die) and used wood chip (processed with a chipper and hammer mill) at around 11% moisture content. The pellets still came out poorly formed (some very crumbly) with a lot of dust in the mix too. Any ideas? Cheers, Jacob
I have a pellet mill that I have been having issues with the dye plate getting clogged. Its a 220v motor and a 6mm dye plate. i try to get my material around 12-15% moisture and I grain mill the material so it is basically a sawdust. the mill is at 220-280F before i start adding to make pellets. it runs well for a while but then it clogs the dye after about 20 mins. the pellets clogging the mill are solid and completely dry. I'm a letting the dye get to hot or is the moisture content to low?
@primespawn4209 hmm.. 220v... usually those are only small motors.. the 4-6kw are really for feed and not wood... also the Dye plates are specifically manufactured for wood pellets.. sounds like you may have a feed plate?
@@PelletJamie it is a feed pellet mill, i have been using it to make pellets out of apples but when I mill it is just like sawdust so that could be the issue. thank you for the information! i will look into upgrading my hardware.
Hi
Do you mean compression ratio = Biomass pallets / Sawdust( Raw material)?
How to select compression ratio??
Any thumb rule for selecting the thickness of disc
By varying the disc/ Roller speed can we get better output
Do you suggest to heat up the raw material by heating /spraying steam
What is the temperature of pallets coming out of the machine
Hey Abhijit, The compression ratio is fixed to the thickness of the die plate when it is manufactured. For biomass you need a higher (thicker) compression ratio than wood.
Yes the faster it spins the more output.
Yes run slightly wet material through on startup so that the steam heats up the die plate.
Never actually tested the exact temperature but too hot to touch would say 60/70 degrees C at least.
@@PelletJamie Thank you very much. Regards
Buying one soon for making feed out of mash but its a 3 roller 9inch 25hp version what size is this one and what hp
My tractor is 63HP and this is a 350mm (12 inch?!)... making wood pellets requires quite a bit more oomph so it sounds like your new machine will be perfect for making feed. Good Luck.
@@PelletJamie the company pellet masters told me the 3 roller 230mm die should produce 500 pounds easy with the mash feed im running just gotta make my own pellet cooler and bagging system so pray for me lol 😆 redneck engineering will be in full effect
@@PelletJamie ps this machine im buying is built for wood pellets salesman said with the higher torque from the wood mill it should be easy to make feed pellets im running a 30hp kubota
How do i contact you I have the same pellet mill and am having problems getting it to operate corectly
Just write it on here...
@@PelletJamie Ok i have the kl360 mill identical to yours running with 90hp tractor 1. How tight do you tighten the rollers 2. my die does not seem to stay hot or get hot enough. If i recycle the out put untill i get good pellets then start to intriduce new material the pellets get larger and crumbly. 3 I have had the sawdust at 15/18 % moisture . I also tried straw , the pellets are a little better but seem expanded. 4. How important is the drive speed My tractor can run at 1000rpm pto then i can run at half throttle so near the 540rpm . have you tried straw with your mill?
@@user-il3pm9kd2n Hi, I tighten the roller with a fair amount of force, it should come with a large nut and a bar about 60cms long, I put that in and put my body weight on it.
OK this really is a game about Moisture Level, Feed speed, Wood particle size, type of wood/material.
Firstly your moisture is too high. It is dependant on material but I don't put anything more than 12%, with pure Oak it is less than 10% basically kiln dried. Anything more and I am having to put it back through which as you have found out is not desirable... it takes off moisture inconsistently and goes dry and crumbly very quickly with each pass.. the key is getting the moisture content FIRST time, when this occurs it makes beautiful pellets quickly.
If you are going to burn the straw in a pellet Mill you are going to need to add 1%lime as it corrdes and ashes the pellet stoves. I would reccomend trying to only use hardwood and pine if desperate. My tractor speed is only 580 so I don't know what it is like at the Higher speed? But here is the other thing that higher moisture content = less heat on the mill... so get it down to ~10% and try again.. see how you get on... there is quite alot of trial and error.. but once you hit that sweetspot you will understand. Cheers
What does off-grid mean to you? You're on the internet, is that off-grid?
Good question. I pay no utility bills, that is what off grid means to me. Off grid does not mean living like a hermit. It is a fair point about the Internet. If the government want to Intervene and put taxes on it, then I will have to look at another avenue.
I get the feeling given your videos of lots of cartoons and games that you are not actually interested in Pellet Mills or living off grid and are happy suckling at the teet of the state?
@@PelletJamie does that mean you can't make and receive phone calls? And how do you access the internet?
Regards,
Teet-drinker
@@Pepperoni290 As I say the government don't raise a tax on phone or Internet so I am just buying under capatalist transaction (which is great). The notion of being completely independent from the state is a goal, but I am a realist so really just doing most of this to save money... which I have.
Keep boosting.
@@PelletJamie I see. If you don't mind me asking, what makes me a teet-suckler and why is it to be avoided?
@@Pepperoni290 Do you remember 2020-2022? When the governments of 3.5billion innocent people put them on house arrest and segregated society into a two tier system based on a medical procedure that was poison and forced you to put a piece of cloth over your children's faces and stopped them going to school and banned anyone who opposed these measures etc etc etc.. Did you support these measures?
Dommage on comprend rien ! C’est en anglais 😕
Si vous avez des questions je peut parler Francais aussi.
@@PelletJamie Je viens de commander la même KL400P et je cherche toutes les infos concernant ces machines 🙂
Je vais faire des pellets de paille pour le chauffage car je suis agriculteur !
Pouvez-vous me dire à quoi je dois faire attention ?
@@lionelu2005 Bien sur on peut discuter. Felicitation et bienvenue a la monde du farbrique des pellets! Donc vos presse marche avec le prise de force aussi? Il tourn les rouleur ou le matrice?
Une astuce, si vous voulez bruler les pellets de paille vous devez met des chaux (1%) de dans avant presser parce que il limiter le cendre et le chimique (chlorine) dans le paille qui rouille le tuyau de la peole a granule.
@@PelletJamie La machine que j’ai commandé a des rouleaux tournants et fonctionne sur prise de force tracteur, je vais la faire fonctionner avec un moteur diesel BMW de 140 hp, j’espère que j’aurai un bon débit de pellets car je ne veux pas y passer tout mon temps…🙂
@@lionelu2005 😅 ca va marche avec le moteur 👏! Parfait, les rouleux qui tourn sont meilleur. Le humidite dois etre 8-12% et il est plus vite si tu broyeur le paille avec une broyeur de marteau a moins de 5mm.