Alex Hellenbach when you say H-pipe you mean the stock one? When it doesnt say h-pipe it had an X or just a different H pipe? Would you say headers affects the idle more? Kinda want a louder idle without a louder rev necessarily. Just have borla the middle volume one not the atak, axle back. Avoiding new headers since want to avoid getting a new tune.
Hey man great video! You think I’d get a close sound to yours with Borla S-types and BBK shorties? I got the stypes cuz the ataks were a bit raspy for me. I don’t know if I could find a stock gt-hpipe . Also how much would it cost to install?
Exactly! I thought that the Borla with headers had best balance of sound. They were louder and deeper without sounding harsh, raspy or too loud and annoying.
Borla + headers + H pipe is best, yeah. Catted keeps the BS down. Seems like for V6s the H pipe vs X pipe is a similar story. Though it'll sound even deeper/louder if you go without a crossover. There's one guy on here with BBK shorties and straight-pipe divorced duals and that car sounds like rolling fucking thunder. It's great! 1:06 instant replay of one of the top 5 best 3.7 mustang sounds
Not sure if you still around but I started to develop a weird exhaust noise with atak, h pipe, and headers only at 800 rpm so first I'm going to add some resonators and if that doesn't resolve I'm gonna go back to X pipe.
Not into the raspy sound my opinion sounds ricer.....I lk the old scul sound I just stick to what I know flowmasters longtube headers cai 4.10 gears and gain tune that's all you need . If u want hp just add a procharger
Awesome vid. I have cat delete / x pipe / muffler delete and it's so obnoxiously loud. Now I realize I have to have at least mufflers for it to be not too crazy loud but not too quiet at the same time. Thanks
Thanks! Yup, you might as well have no exhaust at this point 🤣 GT500 mufflers should do a good job (it's still going to be ridiculously loud and raspy though as long as you don't have cats.
Hi Mike, STC Performance resonators. I believe they were 22" (the largest ones I could find). I welded them in after the mid pipe onto the over axle pipes.
@@alexhellenbach8820 Thanks for the response! By the way, what yr is the mustang in the video and did you have any CEL codes thrown when adding the off-road h pipe to your setup? Additionally, did you have a tune? Thanks!!
@@Wooooooooo000 Hi, it's a 2011 but I swapped a supercharged 2012 5.0 into the car since. I didn't get a CEL cause I didn't have the off road setup for long enough to trigger one. Yes, the car was tuned by MPT. You will need to get the lower O2 sensors disabled via tune (MPT won't do that if you're from the USA) or you'll need to buy defoulers to avoid a CEL.
I have a 2016 v6 mustang with flow fx flow master cold air intake I was wondering where to get a ghost cam for my car and some headers I looked on American muscle but not the type of headers I’m looking for but the ghost cam I’m trying to look for and can’t find anywhere
Hey Matthew, hit up the guys at AMR (Auto Mafia Racing) and they will get you sorted regarding both Ghost Cam tune and headers. You can also check out other vendors regarding headers such as LMR, CJ Ponys, Steeda, etc. or look on Ebay.
I used 22" resonators I believe. Don't remember the manufacturer but it was a EU company that makes them. They are the same design as the Glasspacks or SLP resonators (they're all pretty much the same, only thing that differs is size and length which affects what frequencies they will cancel out).
@@alexhellenbach8820 Hey Alex, what did you mean in that reply by “it affects the frequencies they will cancel out”? The SLP ones you had (which are larger/longer and wider) vs glasspacks (smaller/shorter and more narrow), will the smaller ones cancel out more rasp or what?
Ghost cam doesn't have anything to do with cats. Supposedly not the healthiest thing to run it with cats but I haven't heard of anyone having actual issues when running them with cats.
Hi, I'm running removable fender flares in the back with spacers for testing to see whether or not I like it. With that said the current setup is 18x9.5 ET40 with a 40mm spacer. That width (minus the spacer) equals roughly what my new wheel setup is going to be which is 19x11 ET 15.
@@alexhellenbach8820 okay thanks. I was just wondering bc my check engine light is on for my cats bc they are clogged from pops. So I was like might as well chop them bitches off but now I know I should not😂
It's really intended for driving, morr for show whilst park. You can drive it and it won't hurt anything but it'll drive like crap and use up a ton of fuel.
I’m going to be getting a 2012 3.7 liter mustang and I don’t know a whole lot about this stuff so what do you think will be the best route for me to go as sound wise
@@alexhellenbach8820 oh ok. I was thinking of these www.autohance.com/flowmaster-flowfx-series-muffler-71235.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjwm9D0BRCMARIsAIfvfIYwddKNXCQso7dPXV0Q64EfNTLpong6RR5jaKvYt9Hq9GO8gDKQtWcaApHzEALw_wcB Any particular pros n cons of mufflers over changing whole exhaust systems like borla
@@juanzapata5726 Upper yes, lower no. But you need the lower ones turned off via tune or buy defaulers to trick the uppers into thinking you still have the lowers.
@@alexhellenbach8820 pa gde si brate , pisi onda na nas da te svi razumeju😅😅😅😅 gledam Mustange i naidje na Hrv table , kako reko ovako bez akcenta prica Engleski..😅
@@nikola_stijakovic Hahaha! Pozdrav! Eto, naučio pričat engleski da mogu vozit Mustanga hahaha! Ako će ti išta zatrebat glede američkih autiju (uvoz aftermarket ili originalnih dijelova (novih ili rabljenih), uvoz vozila, bilo što) samo se javi. Pokrećem firmu koja će se bavit specijalizirano uvozom i prodajom dijelova za američke muscle car-ove i same auto ću uvozit po nardužbi po svima prihvatljivim cijenama. Pa ako išta zatreba, tu sam.
Some European brand, can't remember the name right now. The brand doesn't really matter, they all look and function the same. It's the shape and length that changes the sound.
Alex Hellenbach thanks for the replies! I have bbk heads, o/r h , with Roush , I love the rumble , but too loud, what resonators you recommend or how many lol
@@eduardorodriguez7689 resonators won't really do a whole lot for loudness. They will tone it down a bit but not too much. The only thing that will lower the volume extensively are cats. Resonators will shape the tone more than lower the volume.
@@eduardorodriguez7689 Well, if you want loud then stay catless. If you want more roar perhaps go with a different muffler. A resonator will tone things down, make your sound a bit deeper and perhaps less raspy. Won't do much for "roar".
I'm so glad that stop making these slow ass v6 mustangs. I had a ecboost mustang with a 93 tune and upgraded borg Warner turbo gapping all v6 cars plus some dodge boats.
wow, so many people don't know how to make a good video on exhaust tones, but you did a great job. Definitely the set-up I'm gonna go for.
Thnx buddy, really appreciate it! Took a damn while to make the vid. There's also a long version of the same video.
Great comparison of the different set ups! This should help a lot of 3.7’s figure what they need for the sound they want.
Thnx man! I hope it will. I know it would've helped me when I was looking at setups but couldn't find anything on TH-cam similar to this video.
Alex Hellenbach when you say H-pipe you mean the stock one? When it doesnt say h-pipe it had an X or just a different H pipe? Would you say headers affects the idle more? Kinda want a louder idle without a louder rev necessarily. Just have borla the middle volume one not the atak, axle back. Avoiding new headers since want to avoid getting a new tune.
by far best break down on youtube , no cap .
Appreciate it man!
Holy, I like the way you organized the video. For that I subscribe, underrated.
Thank you. I really appreciate it. There's a 40 min version of the same subject on my channel if you're interested.
You’re good at making videos, didn’t skip a second
Sounds good.. the cyclone engine is such a dang good engine
Hey man great video!
You think I’d get a close sound to yours with Borla S-types and BBK shorties? I got the stypes cuz the ataks were a bit raspy for me.
I don’t know if I could find a stock gt-hpipe .
Also how much would it cost to install?
The cat delete makes it sound too raspy at high rpms. Headers with h pipe sounds the sickest imo
yup. sounds like a european sports car. mustangs need that low and muscle sound
wow this is a great comparison video man
Borla and headers is my favorite perfect spot
Exactly! I thought that the Borla with headers had best balance of sound. They were louder and deeper without sounding harsh, raspy or too loud and annoying.
I’m thinking this was a 5.0 💀 it didn’t sound right to me at first but it sound good for a 3.7
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As much as I like my 3.7L it will never sound like a v8 and I hate it I will just have to buy me a 5.0
You jus haven’t found the right combo
So what I'm hearing is delete cats , mufflers , leave resonators lol
I want to delete the cats so bad but it’s so easy to make these raspy and with the glass packs it helps a good amount but idk
Mine isn’t too off, I got bbk headers, roush axleback exhaust, resonator delete x pipe, and it sounds almost the same
Yup, Roush and Borla are as close as it gets sound wise, the rest doesn't make that much of a difference.
When you did the h pipe did it delete the resonators or keep them
Bestt comparison video I’ve seen so far! Great vid bro👍🏽
Thank you, I really appreciate it!
Amazing work on this video Thank You!!!
You're welcome, thank you for your awesome comment! :)
Borla + headers + H pipe is best, yeah. Catted keeps the BS down. Seems like for V6s the H pipe vs X pipe is a similar story. Though it'll sound even deeper/louder if you go without a crossover. There's one guy on here with BBK shorties and straight-pipe divorced duals and that car sounds like rolling fucking thunder. It's great!
1:06 instant replay of one of the top 5 best 3.7 mustang sounds
Not sure if you still around but I started to develop a weird exhaust noise with atak, h pipe, and headers only at 800 rpm so first I'm going to add some resonators and if that doesn't resolve I'm gonna go back to X pipe.
great comparison vid bro! there should be more like this one
Thnx buddy! There's also a full length video (this is just a tiny bit of the original video) if you're interested in more details.
Thanks to you, I was able to set up the exhaust system. Thank you
Bro for some reason rev Borla plus headers sounds like a GTR to my ears.
Take offs sounded better before cat delete then it was a bumble bee
By the last sound clip i gotta turn down the volume lol..great job on the video and car
So it sounded good until u put the h pipe in there that ruined the sound
Thank you for your efforts 💪🏾💯
Should have left the cats on
Not into the raspy sound my opinion sounds ricer.....I lk the old scul sound I just stick to what I know flowmasters longtube headers cai 4.10 gears and gain tune that's all you need . If u want hp just add a procharger
I have muffler delete and headers i may get a x pipe install now i kinda like the sound thanks my guy video help
Where did you buy the h-pipe from?
My favorite sound is the borla, shortys, and h pipe. Nice deep sound to it!
Awesome vid. I have cat delete / x pipe / muffler delete and it's so obnoxiously loud. Now I realize I have to have at least mufflers for it to be not too crazy loud but not too quiet at the same time. Thanks
Thanks!
Yup, you might as well have no exhaust at this point 🤣
GT500 mufflers should do a good job (it's still going to be ridiculously loud and raspy though as long as you don't have cats.
Borla, Headers and H-Pipe was the best decision.
What resonators did you put on the car to quiet it down?
Bottle style ones. I believe they were 22".
This was perfect!
This is so insanely perfect for tuning how I want mine to sound thank you for this
Hey Alex, what kind of resonators did you use and where did you weld them in at?
Hi Mike,
STC Performance resonators. I believe they were 22" (the largest ones I could find).
I welded them in after the mid pipe onto the over axle pipes.
@@alexhellenbach8820 Thanks for the response! By the way, what yr is the mustang in the video and did you have any CEL codes thrown when adding the off-road h pipe to your setup? Additionally, did you have a tune?
Thanks!!
@@Wooooooooo000 Hi, it's a 2011 but I swapped a supercharged 2012 5.0 into the car since.
I didn't get a CEL cause I didn't have the off road setup for long enough to trigger one. Yes, the car was tuned by MPT.
You will need to get the lower O2 sensors disabled via tune (MPT won't do that if you're from the USA) or you'll need to buy defoulers to avoid a CEL.
@@alexhellenbach8820 Thanks for the info, Alex!
@@Wooooooooo000 You're welcome. If you need any parts just let me know. I might be able to help you out and save you some bucks.
Man I wish someone would make a vid like this for S Types and BBK shorties
They are pretty much the same just a ted less agressive and quieter.
@@alexhellenbach8820 Which H Pipe do you have?
@@Spurrr a GT take off
@@alexhellenbach8820 The stock pipe from a gt or just a gt aftermarket h pipe welded in?
@@Spurrr stock GT H-pipe. Got it cut to size and reductions welded in so it can be swapped out easily.
I want to purchase your off-road h pipe
Where’d u get ghost cam?
Mpt
I have a 2016 v6 mustang with flow fx flow master cold air intake I was wondering where to get a ghost cam for my car and some headers I looked on American muscle but not the type of headers I’m looking for but the ghost cam I’m trying to look for and can’t find anywhere
Hey Matthew, hit up the guys at AMR (Auto Mafia Racing) and they will get you sorted regarding both Ghost Cam tune and headers.
You can also check out other vendors regarding headers such as LMR, CJ Ponys, Steeda, etc. or look on Ebay.
Keep the resonator.
Agree but that engine setup is long gone in the car 😂
Borla headers and h is the one
Do you know where I can find a Ghost cam tune?
MPT or Auto Mafia Racing
Where'd you get those replacement tail lights?
Those are OEM 13-14 lights.
The H pipe is from a stock 2014 mustang GT?
Stock 11-14 GT, yes.
@@alexhellenbach8820 Buying one soon, what else is needed for it to fit, or whats needed to be done to it? Or is it a direct weld up
@@noahhuraan5353 Your muffler shop will know what to do with it.
Needs customization.
@@alexhellenbach8820 ok
Might as well get a gt smh
You choose well
Which resonators did you use with cat less setup?
I used 22" resonators I believe. Don't remember the manufacturer but it was a EU company that makes them.
They are the same design as the Glasspacks or SLP resonators (they're all pretty much the same, only thing that differs is size and length which affects what frequencies they will cancel out).
@@alexhellenbach8820 Hey Alex, what did you mean in that reply by “it affects the frequencies they will cancel out”?
The SLP ones you had (which are larger/longer and wider) vs glasspacks (smaller/shorter and more narrow), will the smaller ones cancel out more rasp or what?
How did you get the ghost cam to work with cats?
Ghost cam doesn't have anything to do with cats. Supposedly not the healthiest thing to run it with cats but I haven't heard of anyone having actual issues when running them with cats.
Shorty and atks sounds delicious!!
Sounds awesome, too bad CAT delete is illegal in the US :(
Cat delete on these cars actually sounds like shit (especially in person). It's illegal here as well but nobody cares.
What's your wheel and tire set up from the thumbnail?
Hi, I'm running removable fender flares in the back with spacers for testing to see whether or not I like it. With that said the current setup is 18x9.5 ET40 with a 40mm spacer. That width (minus the spacer) equals roughly what my new wheel setup is going to be which is 19x11 ET 15.
Do you think muffler delete no cats and flowmaster x pipe would sound good(3.7)
Hi, it would be insanely loud, extremely raspy and would drone like crazy.
@@alexhellenbach8820 okay thanks. I was just wondering bc my check engine light is on for my cats bc they are clogged from pops. So I was like might as well chop them bitches off but now I know I should not😂
Yeah, don't do it :D
@@LandoBandooo How's your engine doing?
hold up, Did you have resonators on or No when you did Borla Atak, Headers, and H Pipe
I did have them on.
so you had bbk shordies, stock cats, h pipe, resonators and borla atak?
Correct
Is it bad to drive with the ghost cam?
It's really intended for driving, morr for show whilst park. You can drive it and it won't hurt anything but it'll drive like crap and use up a ton of fuel.
@@alexhellenbach8820 oh okay, thanks for the response!
Is it the borla atak axle-back exhaust?
Those are the Borla atak mufflers only, not the whole axle back kit from Borla.
I’m going to be getting a 2012 3.7 liter mustang and I don’t know a whole lot about this stuff so what do you think will be the best route for me to go as sound wise
@@hunterfaz8707 What's in the above video is what I enjoyed most.
What h-pipe do you have?
GT take off
Thinking about getting the v8 10 speed?
Swapped a supercharged 5.0 into my 3.7 and went from auto to manual.
@@alexhellenbach8820 nice did you make a video on it?
@@alexhellenbach8820 nvm I see it lol
@@adriansoto5018 Yes, there's step by step "how to" video series on my channel. Need to upload the final videos still.
all sounds good. which one is cheaper?
Cheapest would be buying just the mufflers.
@@alexhellenbach8820 can you suggest me options? How about straight pipes? How much would it cost me including labor?
@@travelhustle747 I have no ide, you'll have to go and ask a shop man. I don't live in the US so I don't know rates of shops.
@@alexhellenbach8820 oh ok. I was thinking of these www.autohance.com/flowmaster-flowfx-series-muffler-71235.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjwm9D0BRCMARIsAIfvfIYwddKNXCQso7dPXV0Q64EfNTLpong6RR5jaKvYt9Hq9GO8gDKQtWcaApHzEALw_wcB
Any particular pros n cons of mufflers over changing whole exhaust systems like borla
lalit deore look up videos bro lmao
Definitely doing this to my 2010 v6 4.0
Just keep in mind that the 4.0 sounds completely different to the 3.7
@@alexhellenbach8820 Bro what other parts will I need to install long tube headers on a 4.0
@@juanzapata5726 Hey bud, you'll need a matching mid pipe (x or h)
@@alexhellenbach8820 How about those O2 sensors ? necessary?
@@juanzapata5726 Upper yes, lower no. But you need the lower ones turned off via tune or buy defaulers to trick the uppers into thinking you still have the lowers.
Does it Pop on decel?
It rumbles and growls and very rarely does it pop.
@@alexhellenbach8820 Is there a way to get these things to pop on decel or not really if it does not have a super charger
@@Matt-pv1cg yeah, talk to your tuner, he can make your car pop.
Where from Croatia? City?
Hi, Zagreb.
@@alexhellenbach8820 Oh nice , do you speak Croatian? I saw Cro plates...
@@nikola_stijakovic I do, yes. Been living here my entire life.
@@alexhellenbach8820 pa gde si brate , pisi onda na nas da te svi razumeju😅😅😅😅 gledam Mustange i naidje na Hrv table , kako reko ovako bez akcenta prica Engleski..😅
@@nikola_stijakovic Hahaha! Pozdrav! Eto, naučio pričat engleski da mogu vozit Mustanga hahaha!
Ako će ti išta zatrebat glede američkih autiju (uvoz aftermarket ili originalnih dijelova (novih ili rabljenih), uvoz vozila, bilo što) samo se javi. Pokrećem firmu koja će se bavit specijalizirano uvozom i prodajom dijelova za američke muscle car-ove i same auto ću uvozit po nardužbi po svima prihvatljivim cijenama. Pa ako išta zatreba, tu sam.
What resonators did u use ?
Some European brand, can't remember the name right now. The brand doesn't really matter, they all look and function the same. It's the shape and length that changes the sound.
Alex Hellenbach thanks for the replies!
I have bbk heads, o/r h , with Roush , I love the rumble , but too loud, what resonators you recommend or how many lol
@@eduardorodriguez7689 resonators won't really do a whole lot for loudness. They will tone it down a bit but not too much. The only thing that will lower the volume extensively are cats. Resonators will shape the tone more than lower the volume.
Alex Hellenbach I think that’s what I meant, I like loudness, just not enough roar? Get me ? Lol sorry
@@eduardorodriguez7689 Well, if you want loud then stay catless. If you want more roar perhaps go with a different muffler. A resonator will tone things down, make your sound a bit deeper and perhaps less raspy. Won't do much for "roar".
What type of H-pipe did u have?
A GT take off.
Alex Hellenbach is that a stock mid pipe from a GT ??
I'm so glad that stop making these slow ass v6 mustangs. I had a ecboost mustang with a 93 tune and upgraded borg Warner turbo gapping all v6 cars plus some dodge boats.
sounds like a civic
Did you have to weld the H-pipe? Also, what kind of borla? S-type cat back or S-type axle back?
H-pipe had to be modified to fit.
Borla ATAK mufflers.
@alexhellenbach8820 Ah, I see. Do you think the results can be the same with a Borla S-Type cat-back exhaust, H-pipe, & bbk shorty headers?
@@mywa8314 Should be similar, yes. S-type's are not as aggressive and ATAK but still pretty great sounding.
@alexhellenbach8820 Thanks for the advice. Hopefully, everything works out on my end.
@@mywa8314 can't see why it wouldn't. It's a great setup you'll end up with.
brother can you say exactly the parts you installed and the name of the parts🔥🔥🔥🏎
It's written in the description