Dragon Quest Monsters: The Dark Prince Is Incredible
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- Is the game that wasn't given any pre-release coverage somehow good
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And so Jon became the entire marketing budget for this game
Honestly the game is its own marketing budget. Dragon Quest may not be known outside Japan, but in Japan it's a household name and a part of everything, and they only need it to do well in Japanese markets.
Honestly I have watched this a few times so it worked on me haha
and now with Akira Toriyamas death,dragon quest been mentioned a lot, honestly dq is a very good franchise,loved the last game on consoles @@ScoptOriginal
Square spent so much on the Ethics Department to cenzor it for western release that there must not have been enough budget for marketing.
I'm so glad Monsters finally returned after all these years. And with a story that ties to one of my all time favorite mainline DQ games. It's a perfect combination that brings joy.
Which DQ game does it tie into? I’m interested in knowing.
@@JMrealgamerThe main character, Psaro, is from IV. Not the first time Monsters has had a tie to a mainline game. The original Monsters featured a child Terry from Dragon Quest VI and Caravan Hearts
(which wasn't released overseas) starred Kiefer from VII.
@@SearchmanDS cool! Thank you so much for that info. I love DQ series and like many Americans who didn’t have access to it right away I’m trying my hardest to catch up to what’s been released. So far I played a bit of 1, 3, most of V and VII, all of VIII and XI S and Builders 2. I’ve even played DQ Heroes 2. IV is one I haven’t touched yet so I may do that. You can find these games cheap on iOS and phone devices.
@@SearchmanDSand the irony of Monsters 1 is that it released over here initially, yet DQVI itself didn’t until the DS remake.
So good to have a new Monsters game. The trio of 3DS games were so damned good.
Tactics can still be important even if you take full control due to some passives allowing your monster to take extra moves but you can only tell it to do one thing
Dragon Warrior Monsters 1 and 2 on the Gameboy Color were incredible back in the day. Can't wait to get into this one.
Would strongly recommend DQM Joker 1 and 2 on the DS and 3 on the 3DS although 3 requires a translation patch. I haven't played Dark Prince yet but it looks to be mechanically identical to the Joker series
@@wedding2710Dragon Quest Monsters 2 3D is way better than any of the Joker games and Dark Prince imo. Highest monster count in the franchise and best post game. Dark Prince is dope but what holds it back is the switch for sure.
The ps1 remakes were better
@@joshuarichard6827 Too bad we never got those. Not even a translation lol
@@hikarinopower8090the menu is almost the exact same
Allowing other monster collecting games to exist alongside Pokemon would already be great cause there is definitely more to bring to the table than just the Pokemon franchise.
This game is actually getting some decent marketing in Japan. During Tokyo Games Show, I was constantly seeing posters, flyers, and billboards for the game. There’s even a couple of DQ Monsters themed convenience stores here. Plus, there are a ton of ads for the game on JP TH-cam with some good production value.
Shame that doesn’t seem to have carried over to the west.
Yeah, instead they advertise their crappy drama games and ff16
Another low budget DQ game with zero marketing outside of Japan & selling it for 60$. Yeah I don't see why the west should care. A damn shame. I was looking forward to this game since DQXI.
Such a fantastic game, and definitely gonna be an overlooked gem. Thanks for covering the game!
The changing seasons is one of the things I like most about this game. It's why I love LoZ Oracle of Seasons so much and the coolest part of Pokemon BW. The performance keeps me from wanting to buy this game, but if it ever comes to PC, I'll get it.
Might be some hope as treasures was shadow dropped on pc like 6 months later
Wouldnt bet on it because DQM games NEVER released on PC. They have always been nintendo exclusive (except 1 psx title) and to be honest the performance isn't that bad on the switch, never really bothered me
Performance issues are barely noticable
I immediately thought the same. This is a banger feature, love that
@@SlimeBlueMS Nah shut up. I dropped the demo on my switch and moved on to simply emulating the game at a tolerable performance. The framerate is beyond abysmal and inexcusable. It's thanks to people like you that optimization keeps getting worse
I played thru the demo and was floored at how fun it was. Then saw there was no coverage for this game. So sad 😢
i havent played the game through yet, but i like the dark prince because he Literally only wants to do what HE wants to do, And doesnt listen to others who think they know better!
Truth be told, the game has a bunch of "But Thou Must" moments like some of the other DQ games. Pretty much every "Yes"/"No" option in the game has no impact on the overall story, but it does slightly change the dialogue at times (usually the NPC asking the question says something like "I know you're lying with that answer" and the same event plays out anyways).
However, Psaro is still a pretty interesting character overall since you see that he has morals that are misguided due to the environment that he grew up in. He's definitely not a generic protagonist as he was originally the main tragic villain of DQIV (though he is a bit different in this game than in IV).
You had me sold at Fusion and Synthesizing
The performance issues of the demo turned me off. But, your glowing review, coupled with my inbuilt love of DQ in general has convinced me to looks past the performance.
Just finished the current Pokémon DLC and replaying Digimon World: Next Order...
But this is next on the pile if I am not completely Monster Tamed by then.
Im having an absolute blast playing through this! The exploration for each season is so much fun. I love seeing how the environment changes. Ended up starting with Cruelcumber (nicknamed Coolcumber. Ya know, cool as a cucumber lol). I keep fusing to make another so it's the only "permanent" monster for the team, and then constantly changing up the other 3 in the party.
This is on my lists of must plays!
One thing I love about these games is the fact that they let you unlock final bosses from other DQ games to add to your party.
Damn straight Dragon Quest 5 is one of the best games ever made
Loving this game so so much, thanks for covering it 😎
After how awful dai’s game was (and how bad the EOS for the awesome mobile game was)
I’m glad to see SQEX got their shit together
This may become my fav dragon quest game. Def my fav non mainline. Its up there with DQ8, and 11. Haven't play 5 or 7. Game def performs superior to modern pokemon.
It's up there with 8 and 11 for me as well. DQ7 (remake) has been my 3rd favorite in the series ever since it came out, but this new DQM I think might take its place.
Good review. I think despite its small technical set backs it still looks like it runs better than last couple Pokemon games (honestly seems a lot more fun too). I totally agree that the mechanics feel a lot closer to a SMT game (especially combining monsters, inheriting traits/skills) but of course with that classic DQ whimsy (which is definitely a good thing). I loved DQ11 and will definitely check this out. Thanks for reviewing this one John.
Actually, I'd say it runs about on-par with Scarlet and Violet, then again, SV is doing creature collecting RPG gameplay in one massive map compared to the collection of open areas (I'd say more comparable to Legends Arceus rather than SV in terms of the way it's set up), but as someone who loves both Pokémon and Dragon Quest 5, I'm certainly interested in eventually picking this up.
I would have LOVED to claim DQM is graphically superior to Pokémon but it’s really not
@@Aka-Spade Good to know! I've only dipped into SV a little. I did however play the crap out of Legends Arceus and didn't mind the graphical short-comings at all (not that I ever really care about stuff like that when a game is just *fun*).
@@fettuccinialfonso I have over 200 hours sunk into Scarlet and Violet (due to shiny hunting, mostly), so I've gotten very familiar with how the game runs, lol (it's a bit overexaggerated by a lot of people thanks to those clips of the unpredictable glitches caused by the SD card memory leak back when they released.)
regarding the mentioned technical set backs - i've recently finished my 100% run of the game and while i was around 2 thirds of the way through the game they actually released a new patch that improved the performance quite substantially. i was progressing through one of the areas with the biggest performance issues a day before the patch and when i started the game the next day it installed the update and suddenly everything was fine. definitely made the lategame areas of the game a lot more enjoyable to traverse. it's still not perfect, but it's slowly getting there.
Performance be looking rough. I’m excited it’s selling so well in Japan (wow, shocker) hope it does well outside. Will probably pick up!
For some reason, the performance improves slightly in some of the later areas. Plus it runs better if... you turn off autosave, kinda?
Performance is not that bad, hardly noticable tbh
It's not as bad as Pokemon: Scarlet and Violet or any Pokemon games on Switch.
Enjoying the demo, but damn £45 for what looks and feels budget.
I’m so glad to finally have an in depth review from another dragon quest fan!! I can’t believe this has gone so far under the radar I don’t hear anyone talking about it!!! I even forgot it released because I got busy :( but regardless it’s awesome that this game is a companion to IV with psaro; in a similar way that the original dragon quest monsters works as a companion to VI and follows Terry.
I loved the first Monster Tamer game. I had to play the demo and got a good taste. I'll have to get the whole thing some time.
I'm loving Dragon Quest monsters. So fun.
Just finished replaying DQM1 on rom and I’m so ready for this as I just spent 10s of hours researching breeding pairs 🤣
Having a blast with it so far. So relieved it's actually good after the disaster that was Infinity Strash.
I freaking adored the ds joker games. This game so far is doing it for me. Hopefully square gets their act together and localize ALL THE GAMES. NO EXCUSE NOT TO HAVE WORLD WIDE RELEASES FOR EVERY DQ GAME! ITS ALMOST LIKE THEY ARE AGAINST THE REST OF THE WORLD. TERRYS WONDERLAND REMAKE STILL HASNT COME WEST! DQ 10 ETC......
at least theres fan translations for both terrys wonderland and the cobi/tara remake
The ps1 remakes of 1 and 2 never got localized and Caravan heart
I'll accept this game as an apology for the awful Infinity Strash. I just hope Square Enix releases a bundle with the other two Dragon Quest Monsters games and also Dragon Quest 4 5 and 6
I didn't think it was that bad honestly
@@TheVicarstownSentinel they duped us into thinking this was Dragon Quest's big entry into action rpgs when in reality it was a phone game in disguise
There's more than 2 other Monsters titles. It's called Monsters 3 due to it being the 3rd MAIN Monsters game. Joker exists as a sub-series trilogy to the mainline titles. The list of games are as follows (mostly in order except for the mobile titles that I don't care enough about):
1) Monsters 1 (GBC)
2) Monsters 2: Cobi / Tara (GBC alternate versions)
3) Monsters 1+2 (PS1 compilation)
4) Caravan Heart (GBA)
5) Joker (DS)
6) Joker 2 (DS)
7) Joker 2 Pro (DS)
8) Terry's Wonderland 3D (3DS remake of 1)
9) Iru and Luca's Marvelous Mysterious Key (3DS remake of 2)
10) Joker 3 (3DS)
11) Joker 3 Pro (3DS)
12) Super Light (mobile)
13) Wanted! (mobile)
14) Terry's Wonderland SP (mobile enhanced port)
15) Iru and Luca's Marvelous Mysterious Key SP (mobile enhanced port)
16) Terry's Wonderland Retro (Switch port if the original)
17) Monsters 3: The Dark Prince (this game)
18) Various other ports of 1 and 2.
But yeah, I do agree that the other titles would greatly benefit from a compilation title on modern platforms.
@@Nic5Cyprus Phone game? Idk what game you played but it wasn't Infinity Strash.
As far as I'm concerned its about on par with other similar games such as DQ Heroes and other Warriors or Warriors-like hack-n-slashes, maybe slightly less so in some degrees. A typical modern day phone game would constitute much simpler graphics and an entire ass rng gacha system you pay real world money for. I think you need to reconsider things a bit.
Infinity Strash was not a bad game. You're just dumb to make such an outlandish comparison.
@Nic5Cyprus You'll accept it as an apology? It's a video game, you act like it personally attacked you, and then you demand more specific titles/bundles. How entitled are you?
I remember playing Dragon Quest Monsters Joker 1 and 2, they were super fantastic games!! Absolutely loved it!! I should get this!
Loved your video on dragon quest the dark prince thank you for bringing attention to such a fantastic game I really want them to make another one in America
Love you Jon for giving this magnificent series the attention it unfortunately doesn't get enough of.
It's the creators fault. They refused to localize dq games in the past and it shows. It's terrible that the world missed out on SO MANY DQ GAMES.
It's understandable for the DQ Monster games tho and it costs to release games overseas. I suppose the sales weren't so great which is why we never got Monster Joker 3 after the first 2. But I'm glad they're finally trying again.
Although i can't afford the game right now, i absolutely loved Monsters Joker 2 on the DS as a kid so I hope this game gets more love
Rip toriyama, his designs were top tier
I’m definitely going to buy this. Just waiting on a sale. ✔️
Because Pkmn Scarlet/Violet had such crisp visuals without any performance issues at launch… 😏
At launch? They never bothered improving it, it's exactly the same as day 1 lol
@SlimeBlueMS pkmn scarlet and violet is way better than u think
Dragon quest monsters graphics actually ma 12:34 kes me want to appreciate scarlet and violets graphics
Really enjoying the game but dang is it blurry and the fps sucks at times
"That's not to say the tracks are bad..." Then I'll say it: the music is shit.
There is a serious problem with this game that no one seems to talk about, and I am here to mention it.
DQM3 Suffers exclusively from mass pvp abuse. As long as someone closes their game it crashes the pvp match, forcing BOTH players to ALWAYS de-rank. This exclusively makes it IMPOSSIBLE to rank, and is unacceptable that it exists at all. IT IS BEING USED AS A FEATURE IN PVP. Causes crashes, always derank, and more.
As someone who grew up only playing DQMJ 1 and 2 and having to wait 13 years for an international sequel, this game might as well be the most valuable thing i own
and here we have a game that looks better than the last game made by the largest Franchise of the world
Sad, but true.
this sounds awesome. sadly i not got a switch but the plot of this being from Psaro's POV is genius. my entry point to the monsters series is Dragon Quest Monsters 2 Joker on DS
Where is the dragon quest treasures review? I’m still waiting!
thank you for acknowledging Dragon quest as the pokemon PREDACESOR! happy to see a review from someone who does their research
predecessor means it came out before, but pokemon red and green released like 2 years before these games.
no one in their right mind would ever consider the monsters as extra characters from the main series as preceeding the pokemon formula
Monster taming was first done in dragon quest 5, which was released in 95 in japan. Way before red and green in 98 which makes it the pokemon predecessor. Dragon quest monsters was after that in 2001 and pokemon went even further copying them with breeding which was the main pull in the Dqm series. Both are great but dragon quest is the og
@@SteveJohnson-l4ythere were actually 2 series before DQ that had monster recruiting I cant remember what they were
I loved DQM for GBC, especially the fusing mechanic; need to check this out
Dragon Warrior Monsters 1/2 and Joker 1 had breeding not fusion
This game is SO good.
Just re rerelease dragon quest monster joker 3 in america please
All of the DQM games have segmented worlds that you are brought to by gates or something.
I'm having a blast with this game, it really is a lot of fun, especially for us Dragon Quest fans. The performance issues combined with lackluster visuals, and lack of an orchestrated soundtrack do make me disappointed though, because the game could have been so much more otherwise. It's missed potential, but if it ever finds its way to Steam in the future then maybe those things can be remedied. I'd say if you're interested in owning this one physically then pick it up now, because I have a feeling that it's going to be a harder one to grab down the line.
My personal game of the year. I haven't been so hooked on any game in years. Can't stop playing.
Dude I said the exact same thing.
Yup it’s my personal game of the year as well
Same, I have 70 hours logged with no slowing down.
The presentation is so frustrating to me, because gameplay-wise it's a fantastic refinement of the Monsters subseries that I grew up with. Outside of quick travel being a little clunky (due to having to return to the tower to go between the various areas rather than just straight up Zooming there) it's basically improved on everything I liked about those games. But the presentation really holds it back. And it's not just the quality of textures. The lack of proper animations in cutscenes was quite immersion-breaking at times.
Now I can look past those aspects because of the gameplay, but it makes it a hard sell to my friends. Can I in good faith recommend it over other Switch RPGs like the Octopath Duology, Triangle Strategy, or of course DQXI-S? Not really. And that's a damn shame. Still, I'm going to enjoy it in the meantime, and I can only hope it does well enough to not have the series go on extended localisation hiatus again.
Also, psaro being silent sucks…
@@firenze6478 it sucks because he's both a full fledged character and he clearly does have dialogue and intentions, he's relaying shit to the characters but we're not being told he does.
@@clydefrosch exactly. He even has voices lines.
dragon quest literally invented monster catching before pokemon ever existed
This game just needed a bit more polish and ambition to be a 10/10 for me, Square should really treat this series with the respect it deserves and allocate a bigger budget to their developers, hopefully the explosive japanese sales will give them a wake up call
I think it's just because it IS a spinoff... those get less budget, lol
This will be the first game I'll be getting for 2024! Yeah I only found out about this game a little over 2 weeks ago, and lost an insane amount of hours on the demo, the synthesis system is highly addictive but what sold it the most for me was that candy land level, it gave me ell flashbacks to Castle of Illusion, yep thats Nostolgic blood in my veins, can't wait to buy it and lose myself in its world
This looks very fun, and I love DQ games (playing through 11 on Switch right now), but why does this look graphically worse than DQ11? It’s reminding me of Pokemon Scarlet / Violet in terms of eye sore-age. I want to play it, and I will be buying it, but goddamn.
Rip akira toriyama
yep. get it now before it costs five hundred dollars in a few years.
Looks like Pokémon 3D world now
I was shocked to realize that DQM Joker 2 came out 13 years ago. I thought surely you made a mistake. Alas, I am just very old.
Yeah, the gap is big as they didn't localize 13 years worth of Monsters games after Joker 2 not doing well in the West. I feel old too.
lol I mained DWM in elementary school and that released 24 years ago. It only gets worse!!
@@CoreyC225False, it peaked at DWM2!
@@friendlysoviet1 lol, I don't disagree with that statement. I was talking about the feeling of getting old, though 😂
i remember playing dragon quest monsters joker as a kid, and loving it, I hope this game is as good.
Pokémon released a half finished, glitchy, sad excuse for a game that made ALOT of its fans angry. This game is polished way more and honestly ALOT more enjoyable. Its truly sad what the Pokémon company does with their products. They take advantage of people that will buy their stuff just because of the name. DQ has put so much more effort into this gem and you can tell right away. The music, the monsters and everything is so much better than other monster collection games. Just my opinion. God bless
The demo sold me on this game and bought it immediately, was surprised to see the copy i got the only 1 in stock at my local walmart and it has not been restocked which is crazy.
I use too like Pokémon, the feeling isn’t the same anymore. Rarely any new monsters, evolutions are just so terrible.
New monster quest fan, let’s all support so we can get more games !
Lmao there's a lot of new Pokemon but okay.
Just because there's a lot of quantity doesn't automatically make them good quality too
Idk, I think it still sticks it to Pokemon technically. If only because it's mostly 30 fps (emphasis on "mostly") while Pokemon can't barely manage 20 fps despite 1/3 of the company being owned by Nintendo.
Wait…there’s monster fusions?
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I would have liked this game on the ps5 or steam where it could look and run way way better. Instead, it is Switch exclusive where you have visual assets shy of swsh trees. More than visual since that is par for the course as a Switch game, I saw Protonjon stream this and the fps was all over the place.
I'll probably get this later
Dragon warrior monsters 2 are just about the best. Tara and cobys journey. Ohh myyy. Golden. Almost As Good as dragon warrior 3 for gbc.
It wasn’t incredible. It felt very cheap actually. Gameplay was fun but graphically and in terms of the world design, definitely felt bare and cheap. It got really repetitive too just going to world after world doing the exact same thing. I enjoyed it and played to the final boss but it was not incredible.
I was a big fan of DWM series on gameboy color and DWM joker on NDS. I enjoyed it more than pokemon games. I am glad they made one on switch after so many years. Cant wait to try it out
The monsters are all as incredible as always, but the environments are too ugly for me. It's a shame :-((
Weird to see the game has performance issues, since I have had nothing but good experiences with Square Enix releases on Switch, and with games that are visually better than this
Yes, I agree. DQXII ran great for me on Switch and it looked way better imo.
@@barpoe OMG, you're already playing DQXII?!!, It's good? It's still turn based?
sorry!!! I meant DQXI @@hannariel I wish!!!
DQ is great, no doubt. But they need to make another Dragon Warrior Monsters. I still play DWM on my gbc even after 25+ years.
So is this game similar to Dragon Quest Monster Joker 1 and 2? if so imma have to buy this
but its also the same game they already sold like 7 times (more if you count the mobile ports).
they call pokemon a stagnant series but what they're doing with dragon quest monsters, thats truly not moving forward whatsoever.
the series once again supplementing its writing by taking from the main series can be seen as both a nice touch and lazy af
they had such a greatopportunity to kill pokemon with their low budget, but they f-ed it up and also made it low budget. rip jrpg fans who like quality
Dlc is basically micro transactions with a bow on it. One is literally just a bunch of items
if anyone loves dragon quest monsters, there was a 3rd one that didnt release outside of japan but there is a mod forn the rom that translates it to english. its amazing and tbh dark prince seems like it has a way better story but compared to monster joker 3 it looks like a graphical downgrade.
I've been loving it. Got my Beshemoth Slime and rocking stuff
Spoilers:
You can get Psaro’s Manslayer form and Estark
How does the game look so good in your review? Did recent updates to the game for "optimization" tank its look?
Dragon quest monsters has been a thing before pokemon was a thing. Kinda irritating people compare dragon quest monsters to pokemon
The game is pretty fun but it's pretty disappointing how ugly it is after Dragon Quest 11 looks so great
I know this is highly unlikely but itd be great on ps5 as its amazing on switch!!🎉🎉
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this guy sounds familiar but i am not subscribed. is he a Nintendolife guy? from that other channel or what?
It feels horrible that I have this game, but I haven't yet gotten to play it, the backlog is the real prince of darkness.
Releases in December. Disconnected sandbox areas. The same MIDI soundtrack. Yep, it's another Treasures situation. (I've heard even less people talk about that one, so I ended up doing that.)
Try playing games before you decide you don't like them lol
That's stupid dude. Play the game first before judging it.
@@SlimeBlueMS YT says there's a 2nd reply but it won't show me, so perhaps your comment is aimed at this invisible 2nd person, but just in case: I said nothing about liking or disliking Monsters. I'm comparing the circumstances of the two releases. (And in the case of Treasures, I played the full campaign and did a full review.)
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We’ve had dragon quest in the west before.. Dragon Quest Monster Joker for the DS..?
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Raptile X Raptile with both breath skills at 100 gives the upgraded breath skills only on the Demo at the moment but hoping to change that before Xmas love this series
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I played the demo and couldn’t get past the visuals
They are atrocious
Now where thr hell is DQ12. They announced it in 2020.
I've noticed a trend with the DQ games & spinoffs recently. Not counting DQ Treasures which was an intentional spinoff of DQ11, Builders 1 & 2 were spinoffs of DQ1 & DQ2, DQ3 is getting a HD-2D remake, and DQ Monsters Switch is a spinoff of DQ4. That means the next DQ spinoff or remake will be for DQ5.
Looks a tone better than the half arsed DQ treasures
DQ Treasures was awesome, sadly you missed out
@@SlimeBlueMS I really did try to get into it twice in fact and I just couldn’t 😭😭
I’m happy the composer died but he still makes me feel a bit icky about buying those games. Probably good because like everyone else I have a backlog for years anyway 🤷🏻♂️
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