27WON Kuro Turbo (FK8 Hybrid Turbo) - DYNO TESTED! // 10th Gen Honda Accord
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ส.ค. 2024
- How much HORSEPOWER & TORQUE does the 27WON Kuro Turbo (FK8 Hybrid Turbo) make on our project car, the 2019 Honda Accord 2.0? We take our 10th Gen Honda Accord project car with its new FK8 Hybrid Turbo to the DYNO to see how much wheel horsepower it produces on the DYNOJET DYNO! Now that our upgraded "BIG" turbo is installed (including our other performance modifications such as; PRL HVI, PRL HV Downpipe, PRL Type R Titanium Air Inlet, Mishimoto Intercooler, and more), and fully tuned by Derek Robinson (DROB) of Innovative Motorworks (IMW), it's time to find out how much power can be gained from our weeks of eTuning (eTune) both for 91octane AND our E85 ethanol blend. We'll then compare the dyno results to our baseline / totally stock Honda Accord, the Phearable Stage 3 ECU tune, and the Phearable Stage 4 ECU tune to see how much performance we gained with the new turbo. Find out what you may reasonably expect when upgrading to the 27WON Kuro on your 10th Gen Honda Accord 2.0. Should you upgrade your stock / OEM Honda Accord turbo???
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Wow! I did not expect 400hp on just 91 octane. Very impressive, Chad! Can't wait for E30 results and drag strip times.
Thanks for another excellent video!
Glad you liked the video 👍. It will be interesting to see what we can do on the drag strip. 🤔
Your content is the main reason why I purchased a 10th Gen Accord 2.0t Touring. I don't' plan to swap Turbo's, but the fact a internally stock 2.0t (K20C) engine can output 400 HP, to the stock 10 speed transmission just proves the 10th gen is one the greatest Honda Accords built.
How are you liking your Accord? You mentioned that you don’t plan on swapping the the turbo, but do you have any other modifications?
The stock motor record is 526whp with a Pure 550 turbo
This is insane 400 on 91???? I can’t wait to see the e30 runs. Congrats brotha!
I doubt it added much, but it was running ~4% higher ethanol than what I normally have in my local gas 🤷♂️
@@TheLemonFactor those numbers are corrected for sea level, right? Even then no one’s making 400whp on 91 at sea level with this setup, e30 yeah probably
Yes, dyno numbers are corrected. Who else have you seen run the Kuro on an Accord that has dyno tested it?
I love it Lemon!!! My only question is how much can the stock a10 and all its fwd components handle for regular beatings and be dependable?Hopefully the components are over engineered.
I hope so too! 😉
Wow that's crazy, I was expecting 360-365 on 91 octane and about 400 on E30. This thing must be awesome to drive
Me too… I was pleasantly shocked 😯. We also have ~4% more ethanol than we normally do, so that may have helped a little 🤷♂️
Thanks Chad, everything you do helps others build there cars! Been waiting to see this one.
I’m glad to hear that 😁. Thank you for the support 👍
Stock fk8 spark plugs are good I been doing 540whp on them no problem and my buddy been making over 600 on them as well. I recommend going catless especially if you have the prl catted version thag is “3” inches. You would make serious gains
Awesome video!! I always loved the videos on the 2.0T. It’s such an underrated car
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Wow! This is what our 2.0T Accords need! I run Phearable Stage 3 w/93 octane. Traction sucks! If the TQ curve comes on later, then less spin , and the additional HP pulls you through! E30 should be spectacular! TQ may be near limit with 10 speed auto. TQ management can be limited in tune to protect the tranny. Once you are up and moving with foot to the floor, HP takes over in the higher rpms. You were stoked in the video! Congrats!
However, with this much torque and horsepower I’m still slipping higher in the RPM range, but that’s with the all-season tires. Hopefully when I switch back to the summer tires it will help out a lot 🙏🏻
Love your way of doing things. Install , tune , dyno and track test it. Love your no b.s way of doing things . Good numbers !!!
I appreciate that 👍. Thank you 😁
Great results!! This is pushing drag radial territory now.. r.i.p sticky street/summer tires. Very cool! Also I "think" the highest hp so far is 568whp on a 10speed auto and still holding up. I have faith that trans is still sleeping at 400whp.
I hope the transmission can handle it 🤷♂️🙏🏻
@The Lemon Factor! LLC looks promising. Also the 10at is the only Honda trans we have not replaced at this point lol
Hopefully I won’t be one of the first 🤞
This is super impressive. I wonder if with some tuning you can gain a bit more low end. I love my stock + stage 2 experience. Being able to jump into and out of traffic down low is so convenient. I love the NA feel but in an automatic this might actually be detrimental to every day driving.
You do have to be aware and drive differently when you’re under 3,000 RPM 🤷♂️
Okie doke. Wow. I am so amazed where this is goin. And super stoked to get mine done.
I was amazed as well 😮😁
Holy horsepower batman! That's incredible!!!! 400WHP is a lot for an accord. Curious to see how the 10spd transmission handles the extra Hp/Torque over time.
I have to admit that I’m a little nervous about the transmission at anything over 400 ft-lbs of torque.
I’m not buying it my fk8 made 404whp with oem turbo and e35
Thanks the is great, good call out with the e tuning experience I’ve been looking for a video like that 🎉🎉
It’s always nice to get an idea of what you’re getting yourself into 😉
Congrats man. You’ve come a long way from where you started with this car
Thank you! It really has 🤔😁
I think ill end up going with this turbo. Good gains & not too expensive compared to other options.
You’re experience may vary 🤷♂️. With that said, I’m pretty happy with it 😉
@@TheLemonFactor Id be happy too lol 400whp on 91 👌🏽. Ima guess a healthy 450-460 on e, do you plan on a meth kit? And maybe line up the supra with the accord on the strip? That’ll make a nice vid😁
That would be great, but I would guess 20-30 WHP gain at 30% ethanol. During tuning we ran into fueling issues at anything above 30%. 😕
@@TheLemonFactor did you drill out your fuel j pipe & add a dw300c pump? That would probably help out.
I’m sure the larger diameter fuel pipe would help.
Way to go Chad!! Those eyes were ready to spill happy tears,😂 I wonder how it’s gonna be when you dyno with the ethanol, very impressive.
😂 definitely happy tears 🥲
Hey Lemon Factor did you consider upgrading your spark plugs at all? It’s recommended that for every 50-80 horsepower to go one step colder. I’m sure the factory plugs are good for any of the stock turbo tunes but now it’s significantly more powerful. It would be interesting to dyno with factory plugs and upgraded plugs/MSD coils and see the difference! Thanks! I’ll try to become a patreon soon!
Yes, I will be upgrading the spark plugs 👍
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Love it good job Chat.. keep up the good work sir. 🎉
Thank you, Gwen R! I appreciate the support 👍
Nice results.
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Wow let’s go chad … I’m bout to get this turbo for sure
😉 don’t forget the $75 OFF coupon code 👍
the fk8 oem turbo and mhi stage 2 makes 400whp on e30, i cant wait to see e30 on this turbo, incredible!
Although I’m surprised and excited by the results, I’d be cautious comparing dyno results amongst different dynos. 🤷♂️. But with that said, yeah, it looks like the Kuro may be on par with the MHI Stage 2 turbo 😁
@@TheLemonFactor love to see it
Wow! It must feel great on the road
Once you get past 3,000 RPMs, it’s pretty addictive 😎
Nice 💪💪!! This accord will be hurting feelings..next mod exterior accessories etc lol. put wings like the TuRD camry make it look like a FAST AND FURIOUS..
I think a neon green wrap is in order 🤔
so what the different between the accord and the type R motor? this car hit 400 HP with this turbo and basic mods on 91 oct
yet a Typer R cant seem to hit 400 HP on 91oct or without a fuel upgrade kit
Turbo, pistons, camshafts are different according to Wikipedia.
That is sick! Maybe time to do some aero mods and do a speed run in Mexico!
What aero mods do you have in mind?
@The Lemon Factor! LLC I was wondering what spoiler/diffuser reduces drag the most, but I'm not sure if a wind tunnel is as easy to book as a dyno! I'm trying to build the ultimate sleeper with my car and I'm wondering what mods are the best incognito mods to do. I'm thinking phearable stage 3, lighter very not flashy wheels, and hybrid badges lol
Amazing video chad I watch every episode doing gods work. Did you install just the turbo inlet pipe before the bigger turbo? I am possibly looking to just do a inlet pipe upgrade for now and want to know if there will be any gain if its worth it on stock turbo
Yes, aside from the turbo I did install the inlet pipe at the same time. Although I have not tested just the inlet pipe, I really don’t think you’d see any power gains on a stock turbo 🤷♂️
@@TheLemonFactor do you have to get the inlet pipe in order to run the kuro? Or would stock still bolt up
You do have to get a civic type R compatible inlet to run the Kuro.
Amazing! At what point do you worry about internals? Thanks again for the amazing videos
Good question… I’m always worried 🤷♂️.
The internals on the k20c1/c4 on the block are the same, lightweight crankshaft and pistons, also forged rods and a good oil pump, the only difference between the C1 to the C4 are on the head and cams, etc... but bottom end are good for the same power range, i have seem type r's with more than 600whp, so probably manual accord will hold the same
The SOUND
3:30 🔥 🔥 🔥 👏🏾 👏🏾 👏🏾
Hey could you do a complete mod list with links to all the places where you bought everything? Love your channel
That’s a good idea 👍. The last video that went over the performance mods at the time is…(2) Simple Performance Mods = ~300 WHP & ~350 TQ // 10th Gen (2018+) Honda Accord
th-cam.com/video/HXYOr19d0IY/w-d-xo.html
Now strap this turbo to the accord hybrid 😂😂😂
Bring it to New England Dragway for a street night!! I'd love to see how 2021 2.0 sport stacks up against it. I ran 13.1 last year
I would love to! But even though I’ve done that drive a couple times, I don’t think I’m up to it anytime soon 😫
What are your mods on the 2.0T?
@@cesarbullitt174 Intake, stage 3 tune, stiffer engine mounts, light weight 17" wheels, 255/50/17 tires.
93 octane pump gas, with one can of VP racing fuel octane boost added to full tank.
That is awsome!
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@@TheLemonFactor What particular mods contributed to this on pump gas. I seen the intercooler swap and the upgraded down pipe. Any fuel system mods, injectors/fuel pump upgrades? Would like to upgrade my turbo but keep as close to stock as possible. But daaang your power numbers are alot more than I'd ever expect mine to be. I'm looking for 320-350 tops. You are my hero sir!
I do list the power mods in the beginning, right before the first dyno pull 👍
Wow that was unexpected. Thank you for the disclaimer that the fuel had some E on it. Also you stated the your 91 usually comes with some E about 10%. Wonder what it will do with just pure 91 gas? I know it's gonna be lower but wow.
I want to make sure you have all the information that I would appreciate knowing. 👍
Wow I wonder what a similar set up would be at sea level.
I would like to know too 🤔
Hey Chad, your new tune is running 13 AFR. Isn’t that kinda lean for a turbo engine running that much boost?
Great question and one that I asked of my tuner throughout the tuning process. With that said, I did inquire again, we’ll see what he says.
@@TheLemonFactor I’m no expert but I’ve always shot for 11.1-11.5 to be safe. Check your EGTs after the pulls!
A boost spike at 13 AFR and that’s a potential kaboom
EGTs have been perfect, timing is good, and no signs of knock 👍
0:03 maaaaaaan how you got all those scratches on that back driver wheel like that 🤨 🤨 😫 😫
Yeah, curb rash - happened right after getting them. Luckily it’s only one wheel. At some point I’ll make a video showing how to fix it 🤷♂️
@@TheLemonFactor i stay away from those side curb as far as i park when i park at Walmart at the very end of the parking lot 😄 can't wait till the video on how to fix it ☺️
It’s been on the list for a while now, but other things keep superseding it. 🤷♂️
Hi Chad, of all the turbo upgrades you tried, which would you recommend for 2022 2.0t Sport. One that YOU believe will have better durability and greater performance?
There’s plenty of good options out there. If you’re looking for a 40-50whp peak gain, the FK8 and FL5 turbos are good options. If you want more power than those with just a tad longer spool up the 27WON Kuro and MHI Stage 2 will perform quite well 👍
Great video, Chad. Is 6th gear the best gear to dyno these accord 2.0Ts?
Yes, 6th gear is the proper gear for the 2.0, 10-speed Auto. You should test in the gear closest to the 1:1 gear ratio.
Wow on 91 octane 400 whp. That’s insane for a family sedan 👍🏻 definitely makes me want to buy a bigger turbo. How’s the mpg? Probably better since you’re not in boost?
I haven’t driven the car “normally”, but I would guess that if I stay out of boost gas mileage would be pretty good. Unfortunately, boost is addictive 😁
I was thinking abt the fl5 turbo .Hoping not to lose alot of low in torq🤔. Having found much on fl5 swap accord 🤔
FL5 turbo is definitely a good option, especially if you’re looking for a reasonably quick spool up 👍
@@TheLemonFactor How is the responsiveness of the Kuro turbo at low rpm torq. Can torq curve be adjusted 🤔 thx a million for the info
@dnycednyce1774 the Kuro isn’t too bad - it certainly a little slower to fully spool up than the tiny OEM turbo, but it’s quicker than the MHI, PRL, etc. it’s one of the reasons why I chose it 😉
Wow! Impressive! Just curious, what's your tune's max boost now?
Good question! This is on 25psi of peak boost pressure 👍
5:15 🤯 🤯 🤯 🚀 🚀 🚀
Well done brother that’s nuts I wonder what I’d make with 93 and my elevation?
Are you considering trying it out? 🤔😉😁
@@TheLemonFactor Of course! Im sure I’ve told you my list of mods right now, still need the turbo blanket, prl Inlet, charge pipes bigger turbo and flex fuel. I Currently have the Prl intercooler, ktuner, prl hvi v2, borla type S catback
@@TheLemonFactor and of course the down pipe and front pipe but I think with 93 I won’t need flex fuel
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Congrats. Is this on stock fueling ? These are great numbers.
Yes, stock fueling 👍
Do you think the transmission can handle 325hp /325tq for a daily driver?
I don’t want to put a lot of stress on the trans, want it to last a good life
Where did the 325hp/325tq come from?
have you ever messed with the driver assist tech on the accord? I feel like the lane keep assist bugs me to put my hands on the wheel way too often
I very rarely ever use the LKA - I find it too annoying 😕🤷♂️
Hey 🍋 Just got my Kuro for my 2.0 6mt. Do you have charge pipe kit installed? Do we need it?
Awesome! Good luck with the install 👍. A charge pipe kit is not required for the install. Checkout the “install” video for details 😁
@@TheLemonFactor I was wondering why you didn't consider upgrading with prl charge pipe kit and if upgrading it would help and bump up your numbers 🤔
Upgrading the charge pipes will not provide you with any additional power.
I wonder what’s the 60-130 on 91
I wonder 🤔🤷♂️
So are u saying the OEM turbo is quicker out the gate, and a bigger turbo is faster overall in the long run ?
We’ll be testing the acceleration very soon and we can compare not only 0-60mph, but 20-50, 30-50, etc 👍😉
wait you have no upgraded intercooler and you pushing 400?? i might need this build in my life. Thank you for carrying my accord build 🙏😩
3:07 shows the "power" mods on the car, which does include the Mishimoto intercooler.
@@TheLemonFactor oh snap i just saw it, im playing on getting a PRL IC, Downpipe, HVI from mishimoto (cause i love that you can remove the cover for more sound if wanted) and this turbo, can’t wait to see what numbers i pull on my sea level
i spoken with derek about getting my car tuned and he recommend a IC before i do anything, which is smart, stock IC is not enough for even stock turbo
Aftermarket INTERCOOLER - DYNO TESTED! // 10th Gen (2018+) Honda Accord
th-cam.com/video/vmTfJwGCHKw/w-d-xo.html
@@TheLemonFactor appreciate it!!
Do you have a Cat back exhaust or you are running the stock exhaust
Just the PRL HV Catted Downpipe 👍
Great video!
have a question. How can I remove my top speed governor? I can’t go past 124 mph. Thanks
The KTuner removes the speed governor 👍
@@TheLemonFactor thanks for the info. Another question is that Honda says they’ll know if I use a tuner even if I take it off. Because they say the ecu has a memory and it’ll void my warranty. Is there any way around that? Meaning not voiding the warranty
If they wanted to, they’d be able to tell.
Amazing HP and LB-FT, does it hook up?
We’ll soon find out. I’ll be reinstalling the high performance summer tires very soon and we’ll see what it can do 🤔😎
I want to buy it I’m really serious will it be for sell after your project
You can get the 27WON Kuro for $75 OFF (for a limited time) 😁
I’m talking about the Honda accord 2019 2.0T you’ve really Tuned it up 400HP damm I need it
😂. Sorry, I thought you were referring to the turbo. I’ll keep you in mind 😉. Any plans on building your own?
Okay thank you Sir
Can we see this on the track against another car 🤯 ?
Absolutely! The local track will be opening in about 4 weeks!!!! 👍
Damn I just got my income tax this making me wanna switch lmao
Switch? What are you running now 🤷♂️
@@TheLemonFactor all I'm running is k&n intake with a stage 2 hondata tune. Mostly was working on cosmetic mods at the moment but these videos got me inspired 😂
Got it! How do you like the Hondata?
@@TheLemonFactor it's great. I've put 5k miles on it since the tune. I purchased a 1.5t and traded it in 3 months later for a 2.0. not the smartest thing to do but Im gonna run this thing till it falls apart literally lol. Got my 2021 accord with 30k miles for 30k plus 7 year 150k power train warranty. My dream car was this vehicle I wouldn't choose anything over it. Got my eyes on that kuro though 👀😂
It is any easy car to love 😁
Get bigger fuel injectors and a full car back exhaust system
I don’t believe the exhaust is a restriction and that adding a larger exhaust would result in an increase in power. As far as bigger injectors… they’re not needed.
What wheels are those?
NEW Lightweight WHEELS & High-Performance TIRES Revealed!!! // 10th Gen. (2018+) Honda Accord
th-cam.com/video/j8nFEikxxnQ/w-d-xo.html
How did you measure the actual ethanol content?
The KTuner V2 shows exactly what your ethanol blend is 👍. It’s one of the many sensor readings you have access to 😁
What’s the difference in mpg?
🤷♂️ haven’t tested it. Can’t keep my foot out of the throttle in order to get a true comparison.
@@TheLemonFactor lol
This car will definitely gap my mustang GT
It is impressive, especially on ethanol and from a role, but still struggles for traction 🤷♂️. But certainly fun as hell 😉
@@TheLemonFactor my GT is a 10r80 but stock and Ive been getting gapped by accord2.0T on a 50 pulls lately lol . These cars are beast once you start playing with them . Good luck to you and your build
Thank you! I appreciate the support 👍🤷♂️
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You should test your Accord on an AWD Dyno because I think this is the reason you cannot rev your engine up to 6500rpm redline.
Have you seen this proven? 🤨
@@TheLemonFactor No, but I assume this could be true because cars respond different to this type of testing. There are other cars that do other weird things when you don't use awd dynos and also because there is no other explanation to why the car is revving just up to 5700 meanwhile on the road it revs the engine up to the redline.
My car routinely does not shift at redline. I have found it to be variable depending on the gear you’re in.
@@TheLemonFactor In your 0-60mph videos I've seen it goes up to 6500, way higher than 5700 on dyno. I think the car computer is acting this way because it sees rear wheels don't rotate so "the car is not on the road".
The car never reaches 6th gear in our 0-60mph testing. I can easily check some of my data logs of my 1/4 mile runs to see where it’s shifting at. 🤔
Is this whp ?
Yes
Time for the track babe delete the seats
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First!😂
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@@TheLemonFactor can you try pherable stage 5/6 ?
The Kuro is an FK8 Hybrid, not a straight FK8 🤷♂️