NEW Triumph Tiger 1200 GT Pro | Should BMW Be Worried?? 🤔
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 มิ.ย. 2022
- Triumph have thrown everything at the new Tiger 1200 to beat the class leading GS but have they done enough? I take the GT Pro version down to Arundel castle to see how she handles. Yes Castle!!
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I reviewed this bike over the weekend, and it was amazingly good. I got home and pulled up the base map in TuneECU, and you would not believe how restricted it is from the factory. The tune and ignition tables are good, but the ride by wire stuff is crazy restricted.
In sport mode, you can twist the throttle all you want. It will never deliver more than 64% throttle opening, and it only gets to that paltry amount, near redline...
15 minutes for an ECU flash to unlock Sport mode and that bike will be so much more powerful.
Do you think the shaft drive will handle it?
@@joshtacker9531 Absolutely. I wouldn't worry about snapping the driveshaft unless you put a turbo on it. lol
Currently got Tiger 800 Xrx and this one is my next target. Great review man. Thanks
Thanks Chopsy for yet again another fantastic review. I just love these country side views there.. 👊👍
Two of my favorite bike reviewers. They give different points of view of the same bike. TMF and LCR. Thank you both.
TMF lost the plot mate
Thanks Carlo 👍
There is no comparison. Chopsie gives a FAR better perspective for experienced riders who like to use a bike for its intended purpose. TMF presents well, but most of his reviews are naff, frankly. A Gold Wing? Really...? 🙂
@@troppo4872 yeah all the gear no idea
Should a centre stand really be an option? Come on Triumph!
Triumph see what ktm do with options
Triumph likes optional extra money.
Triumph is a mercenary accessories company that specs it’s bikes accordingly, not unlike BMW and KTM.
Not an extra on the PRO
I can pretend to ride better with a center stand.
Why do you need center stand on a motorcycle with shaftdrive?
Great, informative review as usual. It’s easy for short people to ride bikes like this, riding isn’t the problem. Even getting on and off is easy, just use the pegs. No, the problem comes when stopping and setting off, especially when there’s a slope or if there’s loose gravel. That’s when the difficulty starts and dropping the bike, sooner or later, will happen.
I work at a Triumph Dealership. Took our floor demo bike of this exact model home last week. What an amazing bike. The airbox intake roar on that bike is intoxicating!!
Have a great time at the FOS this weekend Chopsy, I look forward to seeing the videos.
Good job Triumph , I would never abuse a engine like you did at low speed , it’s a big bike for a adventure model
Good to see Arundel Castle. Remember driving round and round looking for a parking space! Beautiful city and castle. Got good fish and chips across the bridge.
Chops, other TH-camrs, must be jealous. You set the bar so high! Phenomenal edit and footage, audio and visuals are always perfect 👌🏻 Great Bike and well reviewed👍🏻 Plus a TMF and knock off Mavis appearance. LOL 😂 This episode had it all! BTW. Would enjoy a Greg, and his Gixxer update, would be a great video update. If you both get a chance in the coming weeks. #TeamLCR
Haha thanks Mike 👍👍 yes Greg's been super busy (as have I) I'm trying to organise a comparison review and also the GSXR ride out together. Hopefully we will sort it in the coming weeks 👍
Great review as always, I must admit that camera angle from behind with the insta360 was brilliant 🙌🏻
Great review again Chops, it’s a shame there’s no sport version though. Nice to see your fingers survived when you launched into the cake 👍
Excellent as always. Enjoyed the high rear footage & TMF sparring.
nice video chopsy and some great camera footage looks like you enjoyed the ride out and the bike .
That camera on a pogo stick behind you is a wicked angle especially for the exhaust noise 👌
Great comfort - I have done 1800 miles in the last 2 weeks on my GT Explorer, including London-Inverness. Over 300 miles to the tank, and no need to stop due to ass-pain.
Great to know, as I'm no spring chicken, comfort is important (Though I've done some 700 km on my beloved Street Twin…)
cool castle. I lived in England from 1967-1970. I loved going to the castles, palaces
Great Vid as usual Chops Love the new shots from back
Yes come out well didn't they, shame I took it down! 👍👍
You can easily display the range to empty on the screen. I do its all the time. Once you get to know the screen options avaialable you would like it more.
Great review. You would get use to it over time setting up the screen and the menu. It's a bit like getting a new phone. I like the sound of the bike. And like you said you wouldn't need any more power. Triumph are making some really great bikes throughout their range.
As the only serious shaft drive alternative in this category (and no, I'm not including the big Yam) and if the shaft design doesn't require the maintenance of that of the GS, I think Triumph are onto a winner. Am I right in saying the GS doesn't offer a 21" front wheel option?
Really interesting camera placements; would be nice to ditch the wide angle setting though.
Love the interaction with tmf 😆
There is some Serious Beef between TMF and Chops 🤣🤣. Love the Banter, I love you both.
Haha all banter 😆 👍
@@LambChopRides I love how you and TMF included each other on the 1200 Tiger videos, funny stuff!
What the heck is that invisible selfi stick? Does it work by actual magic? That's unreal!
Yet another decent review Chops, like you, that dash is a bit of a pain in the rear. Totally agree with the lack of info displayed!
As for the rear view from the 360’, made me feel sick from that high up angle🤢😂…
As always a great review, this class of bike is not my cup of tea but nice to hear what manufacturers are up 2 .
Epic view with the insta360 mate and a great review of the tiger triumph definitely know what they're doing with their lumps
Love the Old World England.Triumph are building good machines these days,thks.
Great work with this video Chopsy 👍
Sat in a hotel room in Stockport this evening and I've really enjoyed watching this (rather missing my bike while away for training). Honest as ever with the review and some wonderful LCR humour and wit in there. 27 minutes well spent there in watching it 😏
Thanks Damien 👍
What training is the bike getting? 🤔😄
The base GT comes with electronic suspension as well!
Brilliant
Great review as always chopsie
Liking the new camera angles too my friend
All the best to you Mr chops 👍
Thanks Michael 👍👍
Biggest fan Powamoto says awesome review vid Mate 👏👌👍
I have the 2017 1200 XRX - next one will be the new version - just love that triple!
Nice review Chops. Seems like an excellent all-rounder. Looking forward to the 44th vid too. I hope those nasty boys didn't bully you lol.
Thanks for the review, Chops. Seems like a cracking bike and very much fit for purpose save, as you mentioned, tft limitations etc. Without further research (which would be wise) I’d put this Tiger almost on par with the 1200GS. Purchasing decision would probably come down to perceived quality of finish, service costs and local dealer reputation. As regards it’s performance against the Multistrada, I’d wager it wouldn’t bother too many potential customers.
The TFT just needs to be setup to show additional stuff like mpg, range etc.
the insta 360 on a long stalk makes it look like a bike video game. Awesome !
Amazing video and scenery!
Love the vid bought a tiger rally pro 900 last year a love it !!! But that’s looks a great bike 👍
Fantastic review! Vic sponge is my favourite too!
Lovely isn't it 😍 👍
Great review. Honda Jazz = scourge of the roads!
Looks like a nice bit of kit. Getting up there price wise though.
I’ve had mine 2 weeks now I find it a bit top heavy and a bit on the tall side the passenger seat is too tall I wish they had an option for it !
Waiting still for the low seat to get my feet planted as I’m only a 29 inch inseam, they should have an optional 17 inch wheel set for a better choice of rubber and lowering the rally pro covers the off road people, I liked your review!
I love Arundel too Chopsie. If you stay a weekend you find the pubs are frequented by poets and historians etc. not the usual 'Who do you support mate'. very interesting locals. However I must draw your attention to Pevensey castle near Eastbourne that has roman bases upto 4 or 5 feet high and is Roman originally from 290AD. The Triumph is a nice looking bike.
You can view range to empty and trip mileage etc. Just split the screen via the home button on the right switchcube. Choose between trip or fuel mileage. If you switch the bike off....just press the home button once more when restarted and your set screen setting will pop up once again.
Yes but messing about in the menus to find it
I want trip, average fuel economy, autonomy and tire pressure. I want a fully customisable dashboard, at least what Ducati or Yamaha offer
I love my new triumph tiger 1200! It’s a beast of a machine.
Superb review, Chops.
Refreshing that chops.
I was looking at this bike as a potential replacement for my 19 plate Super adventure S, but I'm not convinced after watching many reviews and sitting on the bike... As it stands I will go witht the new updated model of KTK's Super Adventure, just can't beat that brute force. :)
That drone view was great
Nice one Chops, good vid👍
I had a Gen 3 and it was amazing, but traded it in for a KTM 1290 SDR. That was just nicked so considering getting the new Gen 4, so tempting! Really looking forward to your comparison vid.
I don't think you would go too far wrong the new bike is amazing! And I am currently a GSA owner!
Just bought on and I love it ! Good cross between the Bmw 1250gs and the ktm 1290 as .
Best of both worlds 👌🏼
Bloody amazing that invisible selfie stick thingy.
I don't really understand adventure style bikes that you don't take off-road. They just end up being taller and compromised. Much prefer sports tourers like SD GT, Suzuki GT, Kawasaki SX etc
it's the comfort... they are just soo, soooo comfortable.
@@caspianprince Many (older) riders enjoy the relaxed knee angle afforded by taller bikes.
@@keyboarddancers7751 and plush seats and soft long travel suspension... not many roads around today that I could describe as "smooth". And there's also a certain feeling of control that you get with the riding position on upright bikes that isn't quite the same on sports tourers.
LCR what can I say?? A cameo from TMF and a very impressive impression of Marcel Marceau while moving the 360 😁 LCR on an adventure bike! Whatever next? Brilliant as always! 🏍💨
Thanks Murt appreciated buddy 👍 😁
The best thing about the triumph is that it’s not a gs and that the missenden flyer does not like it.
LCR. Loved all the camera angles, very professional. The bike,not for me. i"d need a ladder to get on the thing.
I thought there was an option to have info at the right hand side of the rev counter display? IIRC the option you had the display in was with the additional info turned off? I DO still wish Triumph would look into making a proper means of accessing the TFT info/settings ala jog dial that BMW have. Their system is still the best on a bike.
The invisible selfie stick was a nice touch 👍
Big heavy bike (including clutch). Vibes are noticeable but the marmite engine (t-plane crank) is the main problem depending on preferences. Performance and road holding are excellent, comfort is good, electronic extras are great and the bike has serious road presence. There is a lot to like. Less so if if you are used to riding the more traditional smooth throughout the range triumph triples. For me the t-plane sounds like a tractor and as this is supposed to be a bike that doesn't seem right.
Absolutely spot on.
Had a test drive this weekend and in every other aspect it is a wonderfully motorcycle, but they made a big mistake with the agricultural engine.
Lots and lots of rattles and very buzzy in the 3K-5K range.
Drove back after 20 minutes due to this.
Thanks Chopsy, by far the best all round review of the Tiger i've seen on the internet. Cheers pal
Welcome Jason 👍
Great bike. Heaps of grunt. Handles well, but that screen?? Yeah agree Chopsy.. The basic info, should be there all the time. And YES, i do own one..
Great effort from triumph. Lovely peachy engine. I agree the dash and operation are pretty distracting and not safe. I wonder if BMW have patented that toggle wheel On left bar? That’s perfection and wheel worshipers Might just buy the GS solely for that😂 as always enjoy your view point. 👍
Great video 👍
Love the grand theft auto view from behind 😁
So here it is, I was wondering how you were getting on with this video. Gives us an idea on how long it really takes to film and edit these videos!
All good bikes these days not a bad one out there
I used to go shooting on goodwood estate years ago..
The Tiger900 is also a comfortable ride, which after Sundays 12-hour ride from Odense in Denmark to the Hook of Holland I can fully vouch for (I have even done a 15-hour Munich to Northamptonshire ride on it.
I was so disappointed to find out that they have increased the ride height, which has made the bike inaccessible for the normal Celt & even Anglo-Saxon 🧐, perhaps it is made for the Dutch marketplace 😂
Ian
In terms of confort, is the 1200 really with the 7000 quids (and 40 kilos) difference ? Thanks uin advance mate !
@@pateris i have not ridden the 1200 to know. Lots of things to like but it is a lot of extra to pay 🤔
@@backontwowheels9469 Most indeedy !
Great review as always Choppsy. I have the knox urbane pro shirt same as you but hardly wear mine. What do you wear underneath to keep warm?
Hi like the new rear camera
Regards barry
I can’t wait for a after market exhaust
The look that guy gave you during the suspension modes evaluation via the Chopsy hopsy test...🤣😅
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Haha I know 🤣 👍👍
Great film first time of watching you very informative lovely camera work . what is the Gillet body warmer you are wearing
Thanks buddy, jacket is the Knox Urban Pro vest 👍
Great review. I have the 900 Rally Pro…worth trading up? 1038 is the eleventh century, not the tenth 😬, so the castle is virtually a new-build. Wonder if they’ve sorted the snagging yet 😎.
Yes 11th century, I was waiting for someone to pickup on that hehe 👍 I l love the 900, like the overall size of the bike better if I'm honest
Thanks for the gear list. What selfie stick setup are you using? I've been looking for one I can connect to my rear hand grip.
Arundel Castle is such a frustrating places to photograph! I live not far and have been trying to get a good shot for years.
That was an amazing look at a castle close to 1000 years old. I gained 4 lbs watching you eat the cake. Brings back the pastie test! Maybe a cake test?
Yes was thinking about a best cake run 😁😁👍
That info you say isn’t on the screen is because you haven’t set it up to show it. I discovered the same on my 900 GT Pro and now I have all the info I want for daily riding on screen.
Next LCR day trip: Portland Bill! The road between Crossways and Weymouth is a decent set of twisties, and we can compare your next review bike to my 2006 Fazer ;)
Yes good idea 👍
Good review. Better than that Missenden Flyer who can’t be bothered to learn the bike and read the manual. He then complains when he doesn’t like how the bike rides, even though he could have changed the bike if he RTFM. Lol. 😂
Missenden flyer is an absolute tool. I stopped following him years ago. He adds nothing..
Another good video and review Lamb Chop.
Thanks Lyn 👍
Love it mate , when is the head to head of adventure bikes
Waiting on the 44teeth version, I think because of Boothy it's being delayed 👍
Are you sure you can't see the trip info? On my 2020 Speed Triple you can press the selector button left and right to chance the info you want to see.
Re screen info. It’s all there you just need to set up options to your liking, so can’t blame Triumph for that
OK thanks Paul I will look at that 👍
here's an alternative view, I've had a 900 rally pro a year, rode it all over the place including 2 rallies, so quick word onthat, seat is 3 hours comfortable the foams not quite right, twitchy front end two up and that's it no other complaints other than you have to fit better protection its a brilliant bike. I've just test rode the 1200gt, unfortunately not the rally, the engines smoother, its faster though not massively and that's the only two advantages over the 900, the handling is the same. Bits I really didn't like, the new dash is awful massive step backwards and I just don't like keyless. Shaft drive?? I can clean, lube and adjust a chain, no biggie... Just my opinion everyone has one and everyone's is valid. Test ride before buy. I'm sticking with the 900.
The best touring bike had the 2016 and i did 16hrs on it and was fresh as a daisy
I kept thinking you were saying Oundle but it was Arundel, thought I have been to Oundle how did I miss the castle 😂
Gs is for people who do not have a real passion for motorcycling, and got their first motorcycle long after turning 40 years old. Triumph all day long!
Isn't that Harley riders?
Cant wait for the group review with 44 Teeth. do you prefer the Norden 901?
keep up the ace content and style!
Do like middleweight adventure bikes better if I'm honest.. Tiger 900 would be my preference between the 1200 and 900 I think..
Great video! That cake was worth the trip! I am just trying to decide between the KTM Super Adventure 1290 R, Triumph Tiger 1200 Rally Pro, BMW R1250 GS Adventure and of course the Ducati V4S Multistrada! Maybe you could help with my decision? How about a joint a review with you, Teapot, Mr Flyer and Mr Vida? 2 chain & 2 shaft bikes a 3 day trip? Now that would be really interesting! 👍
Great idea for a review Mark! 👏 all depends what sort of adventure bike you want, the GS is the best mile muncher followed by the Triumph (which is faster) the Ducati is beautiful and that V4 motor incredible but not the most comfortable and fuel range poor. SA and ducati the most exciting to ride and handle the best 👌
@@LambChopRides , to continue, I rode the KTM, Ducati and loved both, fast and very fast, however, chain drive! Love the GS, I’ve owned 4 in the last 16 years and everyone buys them for a very good reason! But bored of them now! So that is the reason I bought the shaft drive Triumph 1200 Tiger Rally Explorer, it’s different to the main stream, in my opinion it has the edge over the GS older mans bike, faster, lighter, more refined but most of all, its British! I would much rather keep a British person in a job than a German! I love my Triumph shaft drive!
Lets be honest, all the above bikes are amazing, it just depends where your heart is!
Hola, estupendo video!. En mi caso, no soy un piloto experto y solo conduzco en carretera de asfalto. No hago grandes viajes, solo alguna salida pequeña. Para el día a día tengo una moto pequeña de tipo cafe-racer. Acabo de perder una Multistrada V4S en un accidente, y me planteo comprar, o bien otra V4S de segunda mano, o bien una Triumph 1200 GT PRO. El precio bien equipadas se acerca mucho entra la Tiger nueva con una V4S de segunda mano, ya que la Ducati es bastante más cara. Mido 170 cm y utilizo en cualquiera de estas motos la opción de asiento más bajo. Valoro mucho la maniobrabilidad, facilidad de manejo y agilidad en la moto, también su seguridad. Tengo la impresión de que la Tiger es más manejable que la V4S, y que a pesar de pesar prácticamente lo mismo, la Tiger parece más ágil. La potencia no me preocupa porque ambas tienen de sobra. La protección aerodinámica sé que es mejor en la Ducati que en la Triumph. El sonido, creo que es mejor en la Tiger, ya que en mi anterior V4S la verdad que el sonido no me gustaba nada, suena a lata, supongo que por el euro5. Creo que la transmisión por cardan en la Tiger suena mejor y es más práctica y más suave que la transmisión por cadena de la Ducati. Desde tu opinión o consejo, y sabiendo mi altura, grado de experiencia y uso de la moto, ¿me recomendarías una Multistrada V4S completa de equipamiento de SEGUNDA MANO (unos 26000-27000 €), o una Triumph Tiger 1200 GT PRO NUEVA equipada con topcase, maletas y protecciones (25000 €)?. Gracias
I'm 5'8" and have zero issue handling it.
Conforet and protection-wise, is it really worth the price tag (And the 40 kilos) compared to Ye Aulde 900 ?
Not sure about that camera on a stick haha , makes it look like your in a video game, the bike much too tall for me at just over 5ft 9 , must agree it does sound good 👍
Great vid chops! Would love to see what you think of the new Yamaha R7 if you can get your hands on one… I’m sure you can haha
Trying to set something up with Yamaha but taking ages 😕
thought this one was going to be chopsie the tour guide, brushing up on your history
William the Conqueror was French. He built castles to keep the Anglo Saxons under the heel.
He was a Norman (North man) a Viking and related to Edward the confessor hence his claim to the English throne but he did build his castle's to keep the English under his heel
@@stuartb1963 does that mean Normandy is really in Sweden?
@@blacksmithsligo well they were Danish Viking's so probably not and after 1000 years i think we can say Normandy has become French even if it wasn't back then , the excessive love of cheese of the locals confirms that
@@stuartb1963 they had settled in northern France for over 150 and had swan their allegiance to the king of France by the time they invaded England. So I think we can safely call them French. William also spoke French as his first language and tried to make French the language of the English state.
William had been at war with the French king Henry and defeated him in battle not long before the battle of Hastings his claim to the English throne was based on his not being French Edward the confessor was part Viking and part English and through his Viking lineage was related to William
I suspect the Tiger 1200 GT Pro ergonomics might not suit me...I am nearer to TMF (Andy) than you in terms of height/inside leg.
Yet to see you on the 44teeth vid on this or review by TMF.....(hopefully Bruce not feeling too left out).
I liked the content....The cross-channnel input, new camera experiment (footage a bit artificial but heh- different) plus destination, (local roads to me), plus theme.........all good stuff. Thanks
Thanks buddy appreciated 👍
Aup, what's the brand of the utility jacket your wearing?