The paintable figures from WizKids is good enough for my DND character. Especially since I have so many extra parts from my 40k armies and vehicles. I can get three times as many kolbolds with the nolzurs paintable miniatures as in one frame works packs.
One of the really nice things about minis on sprues is you can paint bits BEFORE you glue them on, thus avoiding those frustrating attempts to fit a brush between the figure and its shield, for example.
Okay since I got the impression that we have two vastly different camps when it comes to experience I just wanted to throw this out. The sprues are, as you stated, the frame and the miniature bits. With sprues, vs monopose, you have a few extra steps that will make your life easier. Normally, Eyeball the sprue, eyeball the instructions (b/c loadout varies and you might need leg G to go with arm E etc), and get tools on the table. Typically, get an old toothbrush and warm soap and water. Gently scrub the sprue down before cutting. (Some companies have mold release, it's just best practices to rinse before you wonder why the fuck the primer isn't sticking with company A vs company B). Let it dry. Get your eyes on the figure bits, look for mold lines, before cutting off. It should be easier to find the mold lines while on the sprue, since the mold lines follow the plane. Use the back side of an exacto. Plan your build out. find the pieces. Use snips to snip out bits, put them out in a little bowl. Then use the exacto to clean up the clip points. Watch youtube vids. Then test fit before gluing.
I picked up a couple of these from my game store, it was the first time I’ve ever worked with sprue miniatures. I wasn’t the best at getting some of the limbs glued down with a perfect fit but still they came out really well. The cost is definitely a bit of a deterrent from just getting regular nolzur’s unpainted minis for me though. Something I’ll buy more of from time to time when they have a really cool one
A neat trick for limbs is called 'pinning'. Basically you drill a tiny hole into the end of the limb and the attachment point. Then you take a piece of a paperclip just long enough to fit into both holes. You put a bit of glue into each hole, place the paperclip piece into the hole on the limb and shove into place on the attachment point.
This all looks very interesting! I just got into Warhammer 40k with a weekly magazine and I got a free set of clippers and eventually a Mini Paint Grip, so I've basically got everything I need for these Minis already
I rather like these figures, they're nice enough to paint and display on their own as well as game with. I have the Minotaur, the human (Shaolin?) monk and the human fighter; I gave him the "goblin slayer" helmet. I look forward to snagging some more and I really hope WizKids finally produce a figure for this line of the legendary D&D character War Duke. That would be awesome!
I think a huge missed opportunity is to have different head for different races, so instead of having separate minis for human Druid tiefling Druid elf Druid and so on for all applicable. It would be much more efficient in my opinion.
The body types in most cases wouldn't/shouldn't match. Maybe human and tiefling would, but that's about it. Elves are canonicaly shorter than humans, half orcs are bigger and bulkier etc.
im used of sprue minis cause of being a warhammer fan but i can say one thing is the nolzers minis i have episodes of hating them with a passion due to their placement of moldlines/slipage during putting them together. nothing ruins a sweet looking troll mini when its had to remove the mold line right across its nose and cheak bones. a side note for the ppl that havent done sprue minis before : keep the spare bits of sprue and put it in plastic cement like tamiya's extra thin cement to make "sprue glue" its a good gap filler when needed. it will melt the plastic together and give you a bit of room to sand it off.
These look very cool, but the pricing feels like GamesWorkshop style premium prices. I liked wizkids nulzurs minis just as they were, Ready for me to paint.
I've bought a few of these and some of the character classes have more to choose from than others. Also some models have more options than shown on the the box. As a fan of painting and building minis i will say for a little bit more money there are great websites that allow far more customizable 3d printed models. If you want a more unique character that isn't going to look like another frameworks guy there are other options. Overall if you have never built and painted minis from sprus you might want to consider the cost of the other things needed like superglue and tools and primer & paint. If you have some experience these things can be quite fun. Overall was satisfied with the ones i got
yeah, ill just heroforge a mini of anything i want. these would be awesome, IF the price point was like 5 dollars. i would buy a million of them and build armies. 15 bucks? no way
@@mccallosone4903 i agree and most of the bigger ones are way more expensive. There are great youtube videos that teach you how to create your own beholder for a few bucks and it looks incredibly good.
I saw these in my local game store. Picked up the human warlock, human barbarian and the human rogue....was fun to build and decide how I wanted them to look.
If it wasn't for 3D Printing id be all over this, but now that 3D printing has become very affordable I find its much easier to get custom minis / "bits" / make my own. HOWEVER if WizKids ever starts producing STL files for sale .... id be 100% down. Though for those who don't wanna deal with 3D printing this is a nice option for getting semi - customizable minis.
jeeeesh great idea, but the idea should be to make them cheaper, 15-100 bucks. its way cheaper to manufacture a sprue sheet than assembled minis, like 30 cents each for a sheet. then youre gonna charge 15 damn dollars for the "feature" of assembling it myself. no way, ill just heroforge one, with any pose and look i want
The prices are what's going to kill at least some of those boxes. $50 for 7 kobolds/orcs is just way too much, when pretty much any other miniature company will provide better valued boxes. Not to mention, from other reviews I've seen online - it seemed as if those two boxes were designed to have more sprues (10 minis each I believe or something?). Kobolds for example come with 7 sprues for 7 minis, but printed instructions are for kobolds 1-5. Two of those sprues are duplicated (I've seen Kobold no 2 and Kobold no 4 being duplicated), the rest are not. It seems like initially they were supposed to have double of each sprue, making it 10 models total, but it got downsized without reducint the price tag. What's more the boxes could easily house two stacks of 5 sprues - so it must've been a decision made late into the production, because cardboard boxes were already made and didn't get downsized to match the reduced amount of sprues. I might pick up some of the more obscure/big monsters (which also are priced a bit high, but within reason) and maybe a player option or two (those are best value from the lineup), but I'll need to wait for more player options, because ATM they are too limited.
The elf ranger i got is Drizzt Do'urden down to his weapons even has his mielikki pendant. Anyone know if there other other minis that are from the books?
I don't think there are any other on the nose characters, I would imagine they'll be sneaking in one(or more) character(s) per wave, if they continue to do the Frameworks line
Hero minis are ok. The monster ones are bit too expensive, but cool. the 7 pack ones are way too expensive. They should just think about the pricing more.
Interesting I’m not sure I want to pay to put together minis then paint them. It takes me too long just to get around to painting minis. It is cool that you can customize them.
I'm on the fence with these...yeah it's fun to have a customized piece but you get few options. Mean if I by a human rogue mini then I'm getting two in a box. The pieces are much more fragile and little pricey. But maybe im cheap.
I spend fortunes on miniatures (I play war games) and I can confirm you are NOT cheap buddy, they’re really overpriced, I guess it makes sense for the company to sell them at the prices they are but prices are a bit stupid in my humble opinion. Maybe I’m cheaper than you are :)
yeah they are expensive for a "warband" specially kobolds/orgres/orcs. if you are into 3D printing you have better options out there. you can print as man as you need out of one container of resin.
@@alvarogalanmadrid9244 yeah i want to get a 3D printer in the future cause it would be handy for my D&D group plus my love of warhammer painting. the more i look into it the more i hear comments like "its an additional hobby that you gotta make time for" and stuff like that is what scares me. it would have to be something my partner does cause i dont have the patience for it specially when things stuff up.
Curious- I use alot of Age of Sigmar mini’s because I really enjoy the detail and quality. Does anyone have an opinion on how these compare? Size, quality, etc.
humanoids are slavishly 28mm truescale - look very tiny compared to other DND minis (which tend to 28mm heroic to 32 mm), would be totally dwarfed by AoS.
For heroes and maybe the big bad of a campaign these are great. But for Monsters that only see the table once and then are shelved, they are way over priced.
$50 for seven orcs, not even about that. I can see $15 for the Minotaur, but that price for orcs and kobolds is highway robbery. I'll stick with Deep Cuts/Nolzurs or Reaper.
yeah those orcs/kobolds box prices are absolutely insane. You know they are bad when Games Workshop boxes are better value 😐I love the idea behind them, but damn those prices :O
Yeah, for a player character that's going to last a few months to a few years, it's not terrible. I feel bad for the DM's that go this route for one-off monsters/hordes that don't show up more than once or twice in a campaign
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The paintable figures from WizKids is good enough for my DND character. Especially since I have so many extra parts from my 40k armies and vehicles. I can get three times as many kolbolds with the nolzurs paintable miniatures as in one frame works packs.
On the one hand, they look interesting, on the other, I just know they'd end up increasing the size of my pile of shame.
One of the really nice things about minis on sprues is you can paint bits BEFORE you glue them on, thus avoiding those frustrating attempts to fit a brush between the figure and its shield, for example.
very good point
Okay since I got the impression that we have two vastly different camps when it comes to experience I just wanted to throw this out.
The sprues are, as you stated, the frame and the miniature bits.
With sprues, vs monopose, you have a few extra steps that will make your life easier.
Normally, Eyeball the sprue, eyeball the instructions (b/c loadout varies and you might need leg G to go with arm E etc), and get tools on the table.
Typically, get an old toothbrush and warm soap and water.
Gently scrub the sprue down before cutting. (Some companies have mold release, it's just best practices to rinse before you wonder why the fuck the primer isn't sticking with company A vs company B). Let it dry.
Get your eyes on the figure bits, look for mold lines, before cutting off. It should be easier to find the mold lines while on the sprue, since the mold lines follow the plane. Use the back side of an exacto.
Plan your build out. find the pieces.
Use snips to snip out bits, put them out in a little bowl.
Then use the exacto to clean up the clip points. Watch youtube vids.
Then test fit before gluing.
I picked up a couple of these from my game store, it was the first time I’ve ever worked with sprue miniatures. I wasn’t the best at getting some of the limbs glued down with a perfect fit but still they came out really well. The cost is definitely a bit of a deterrent from just getting regular nolzur’s unpainted minis for me though. Something I’ll buy more of from time to time when they have a really cool one
agree! 100 percent. that price point is frankly insulting
A neat trick for limbs is called 'pinning'. Basically you drill a tiny hole into the end of the limb and the attachment point. Then you take a piece of a paperclip just long enough to fit into both holes. You put a bit of glue into each hole, place the paperclip piece into the hole on the limb and shove into place on the attachment point.
I like the idea. There have been so many times I've been like, that mini is just what i wanted, except I use a pike, not a 2H sword
Good quality! Helped me to make a decision to buy some.
This all looks very interesting! I just got into Warhammer 40k with a weekly magazine and I got a free set of clippers and eventually a Mini Paint Grip, so I've basically got everything I need for these Minis already
Imperium magazine is a great source of models for 40K as well as killteam 👍
I rather like these figures, they're nice enough to paint and display on their own as well as game with. I have the Minotaur, the human (Shaolin?) monk and the human fighter; I gave him the "goblin slayer" helmet. I look forward to snagging some more and I really hope WizKids finally produce a figure for this line of the legendary D&D character War Duke. That would be awesome!
it makes it easier to paint hard to get areas on small minis so i like it.
We lifetime model builders are very familiar with sprues... Lol
This might be a good idea for monsters that are difficult to paint because of weird angles.
I like a couple of the frameworks sculpts, but they are far too expensive and generally underwhelming for me.
I think a huge missed opportunity is to have different head for different races, so instead of having separate minis for human Druid tiefling Druid elf Druid and so on for all applicable. It would be much more efficient in my opinion.
The body types in most cases wouldn't/shouldn't match. Maybe human and tiefling would, but that's about it. Elves are canonicaly shorter than humans, half orcs are bigger and bulkier etc.
im used of sprue minis cause of being a warhammer fan but i can say one thing is the nolzers minis i have episodes of hating them with a passion due to their placement of moldlines/slipage during putting them together. nothing ruins a sweet looking troll mini when its had to remove the mold line right across its nose and cheak bones.
a side note for the ppl that havent done sprue minis before : keep the spare bits of sprue and put it in plastic cement like tamiya's extra thin cement to make "sprue glue" its a good gap filler when needed. it will melt the plastic together and give you a bit of room to sand it off.
you could turn the mold line into a scar
These look very cool, but the pricing feels like GamesWorkshop style premium prices. I liked wizkids nulzurs minis just as they were, Ready for me to paint.
I've bought a few of these and some of the character classes have more to choose from than others. Also some models have more options than shown on the the box. As a fan of painting and building minis i will say for a little bit more money there are great websites that allow far more customizable 3d printed models. If you want a more unique character that isn't going to look like another frameworks guy there are other options. Overall if you have never built and painted minis from sprus you might want to consider the cost of the other things needed like superglue and tools and primer & paint. If you have some experience these things can be quite fun. Overall was satisfied with the ones i got
yeah, ill just heroforge a mini of anything i want. these would be awesome, IF the price point was like 5 dollars. i would buy a million of them and build armies. 15 bucks? no way
@@mccallosone4903 i agree and most of the bigger ones are way more expensive. There are great youtube videos that teach you how to create your own beholder for a few bucks and it looks incredibly good.
I saw these in my local game store. Picked up the human warlock, human barbarian and the human rogue....was fun to build and decide how I wanted them to look.
Looking at the Thumbnail for a second I thought you were doing a Warhammer video, but this is pretty cool looking.
Wished I had all these cool stuffs sent too! But thanks for the video, these look super awesome. Love to try em soon.
If it wasn't for 3D Printing id be all over this, but now that 3D printing has become very affordable I find its much easier to get custom minis / "bits" / make my own. HOWEVER if WizKids ever starts producing STL files for sale .... id be 100% down. Though for those who don't wanna deal with 3D printing this is a nice option for getting semi - customizable minis.
Stay tuned for my 3d print file video!
jeeeesh great idea, but the idea should be to make them cheaper, 15-100 bucks. its way cheaper to manufacture a sprue sheet than assembled minis, like 30 cents each for a sheet. then youre gonna charge 15 damn dollars for the "feature" of assembling it myself. no way, ill just heroforge one, with any pose and look i want
*not 15-100 bucks
Ah yes, the infamously overpriced kobold box.
Insane
The prices are what's going to kill at least some of those boxes. $50 for 7 kobolds/orcs is just way too much, when pretty much any other miniature company will provide better valued boxes.
Not to mention, from other reviews I've seen online - it seemed as if those two boxes were designed to have more sprues (10 minis each I believe or something?). Kobolds for example come with 7 sprues for 7 minis, but printed instructions are for kobolds 1-5. Two of those sprues are duplicated (I've seen Kobold no 2 and Kobold no 4 being duplicated), the rest are not. It seems like initially they were supposed to have double of each sprue, making it 10 models total, but it got downsized without reducint the price tag. What's more the boxes could easily house two stacks of 5 sprues - so it must've been a decision made late into the production, because cardboard boxes were already made and didn't get downsized to match the reduced amount of sprues.
I might pick up some of the more obscure/big monsters (which also are priced a bit high, but within reason) and maybe a player option or two (those are best value from the lineup), but I'll need to wait for more player options, because ATM they are too limited.
So... DND Gunpla?!? SOLD!
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The elf ranger i got is Drizzt Do'urden down to his weapons even has his mielikki pendant.
Anyone know if there other other minis that are from the books?
I don't think there are any other on the nose characters, I would imagine they'll be sneaking in one(or more) character(s) per wave, if they continue to do the Frameworks line
These minis are great for anyone who wants to get less for their money lol …GW level prices while being made in China
Hero minis are ok. The monster ones are bit too expensive, but cool. the 7 pack ones are way too expensive. They should just think about the pricing more.
Interesting
I’m not sure I want to pay to put together minis then paint them. It takes me too long just to get around to painting minis. It is cool that you can customize them.
I'm on the fence with these...yeah it's fun to have a customized piece but you get few options. Mean if I by a human rogue mini then I'm getting two in a box. The pieces are much more fragile and little pricey. But maybe im cheap.
With that said I have purchased a couple of these and why I'm just meh when it comes to them
I spend fortunes on miniatures (I play war games) and I can confirm you are NOT cheap buddy, they’re really overpriced, I guess it makes sense for the company to sell them at the prices they are but prices are a bit stupid in my humble opinion. Maybe I’m cheaper than you are :)
yeah they are expensive for a "warband" specially kobolds/orgres/orcs. if you are into 3D printing you have better options out there. you can print as man as you need out of one container of resin.
@@darkmistress1980 indeed, I wish I had the time and space for 3D printing myself. To add one more hobby to the list is something I cannot afford!
@@alvarogalanmadrid9244 yeah i want to get a 3D printer in the future cause it would be handy for my D&D group plus my love of warhammer painting. the more i look into it the more i hear comments like "its an additional hobby that you gotta make time for" and stuff like that is what scares me. it would have to be something my partner does cause i dont have the patience for it specially when things stuff up.
Kinda expensive
These are very cool, they are just too much money.
Curious- I use alot of Age of Sigmar mini’s because I really enjoy the detail and quality.
Does anyone have an opinion on how these compare? Size, quality, etc.
humanoids are slavishly 28mm truescale - look very tiny compared to other DND minis (which tend to 28mm heroic to 32 mm), would be totally dwarfed by AoS.
Overpriced unfortunately.
For heroes and maybe the big bad of a campaign these are great. But for Monsters that only see the table once and then are shelved, they are way over priced.
$50 for seven orcs, not even about that. I can see $15 for the Minotaur, but that price for orcs and kobolds is highway robbery.
I'll stick with Deep Cuts/Nolzurs or Reaper.
yeah those orcs/kobolds box prices are absolutely insane. You know they are bad when Games Workshop boxes are better value 😐I love the idea behind them, but damn those prices :O
For monsters I feel its too much, too expensive but for PCs I get it...
Yeah, for a player character that's going to last a few months to a few years, it's not terrible. I feel bad for the DM's that go this route for one-off monsters/hordes that don't show up more than once or twice in a campaign
Massively overpriced. Shameful that you're not more critical of that.
He needs some music in the background