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This video is great, One thing I do need is what brand of baking paper are you using? I am uk based and i'm finding it difficult to get this working. Cheers
No rambling, no crazy intro, no overly drawn out backstory, just the clean delivery of information. I really appreciate that. Maybe sometime I'd like to hear how you got into the hobby, but I really appreciate how informative and straight to the point your videos are. I have liked and subscribed to your channel.
I found that making your parchment paper slightly smaller than the container lets it grow as it becomes damp whithout pressing against the sides. That reduces the papers tendency to wrinkle at the edges and makes it easier to get a smooth surface.
@@BrushstrokePaintingGuides thanks a lot for doing that. can't stand those clickbaity intense videos even if in the end they tell me what I want to know. I am very confident that every minuite of watching your videos is well spent. :)
I've been using a Redgrass palette for a year, and it's made a world of difference. Without a lie, paint can last up to 2 weeks on it. It's an impressive bit of kit.
It’s clear from their website they’ve put a lot of R&D into their palette and it certainly looks a great bit of kit. It really doesn’t surprise me to hear they’ve managed to make a palette which can prolong paint for days. Nice one 👍
@@musashidanmcgrath get one from green stuff world, cheaper than the others and the paper is better than red grass games, all sponges get mouldy if you leave em closed for too long, put a brass or copper piece in the sponge water and itll never get moldy
i have the same and I really like the container and the foam but I don't like the paper that comes with them. thin paint layers dry very fast. I also tried the washable membranes and while i like the membranes a bit more i prefer regular baking / parchment paper. but as I said the container and the foam are really nice and with the paper it's a bit of personal preference. my friend loves the redgrass paper for example.
I just got into painting miniatures and am a noob at painting, but the redgrass palette made painting easy. I got the mini for $30 (comes with two pads and 50 sheets), and it’s worth every penny. Mixing and thinning down is super easy. I just hope if there is anyone who sees your comment, new or who doesn’t have one, gets one. It’s worth it.
I would love to see a video on brush control. As someone with shaky hands I often get paint where I don't want it. Some better techniques for brush control seem like a good way to get better.
The Mini Primetime episode with Taliesin Jaffe on the Critical Role channel has some great tips. He has an essential tremor, and using their techniques he was able to paint very fine details.
I've just watched your video on thinning paint and now I'm halfway through this one. Thank you so much for taking the time to explain these concepts so thoroughly and clearly!
I'm an older chap who's about to get back into miniature painting after a 25 year hiatus, and this has completely demystified wet palette theory, construction, and usage. Nice one mate!
Similar story here - stopped playing Warhammer Fantasy in 2014, when this wasn't a thing. Certainly a great tool I am looking forward to using, as filming was certainly an issue as I painted.
Just found your videos as I start to get into painting minis again. just what I needed. straight to the point, no long introduction, lot's of useful tips and tricks. Thanks for the content!
I picked up a cheap lunch container at the local supermarket; it's got a flexible seal on the lid and four snap-down latches to hold it closed, and I'd previously bought one to hold Indian bay leaves, so I knew it sealed well. Two layers of 'swedish kitchen towel' and a piece of parchment paper, and I've got the wet palette ready for use.
Was recently catching up on some of Duncan Rhodes tutorials and saw what he was capable of with a wet palette. Bought one not long after and it has changed my life. Citadel paints dry within a couple minutes on a normal palette, even with water added and now I don't have to stress out about it. I'm also pretty much convinced that Duncan left GW just so that he could stop using exclusively Citadel branded stuff and a wet palette.
They really are a gamer changer. I doubt Duncan’s reasons for leaving GW were related to being restricted to GW products. It certainly can’t have been related to not being able to use a wet palette, as some of the paint tutorials published on Warhammer+ actually used a wet palette 🙂 I image he simply wanted to follow his own path and ideas.
When I started this hobby 3 years ago I watched so many videos on wet blending and other advanced techniques when all I wanted was for someone to teach me the absolute basics. Thanks! This is exactly what I need. I've subbed and I look forward to seeing more content.
I live in a high-altitude semi-arid area, with highs typically around 35C in the summer and lows well below 0C in the winter. FWIW, since inside air is regularly exchanged with outside air and typically maintains a constant temperature, the absolute amount of water carried by the air can generally be tracked by looking at the current dew point. This changes if you humidify or dehumidify your air. Using that measure, winter is usually the time where there is the least water in the air, with our dew points being typically around -20C to -10C in the winter. In summer, it's typically in the range of 5-15C. Our dew point right now (31 March) is -13C. (This is why static electricity is a bigger problem in the winter than the summer.) I've been using a wet palette for probably 20 years now and can say that your advice is generally quite good. The one thing I do differently is that I use fewer layers of paper towel (normally 3 layers) and I cut the paper towel to be a bit smaller than the palette. The space around the wet palette is keep filled with water, which is absorbed by the paper as it evaporates from the surface. When the water reservoir starts to get low, I add more water around the edge of the palette. Also, when if I put dry parchment on top of the wet paper towel, the bottom of the paper hydrates and expands more quickly than the top, so the paper tends to curl. The paper will eventually relax, so it's not necessary to do anything about this, but I find it convenient to put the parchment below the paper towel before adding water, then flip when everything is fully hydrated. After flipping, I scrape a plastic protractor across the surface of the parchment to drive out air bubbles and flatten the surface. (There's nothing particularly special about the protractor except that it's the right size and the edge isn't too sharp.)
Thanks for taking the time to write this. It’s really interesting. It’s difficult to know how things behave in different parts of the world. So, I appreciate your feedback 👍
More basic tutorials for absolute beginners please :) I would love to see more videos where you break down painting figures and cover each step along the way, such as paints and brushes used and also techniques. Sub+
Thank you All my videos are beginner friendly and include what brush I use, and the exact paint for every step of the process. I am also adding more in-depth fundamentals videos to cover in detail techniques and processes. Great to have you onboard Enjoy the channel 👍
Great video, thank you! Another tip I found helpful is if you only have a deep container and don't want to keep reaching over the lip to dip your brush, just flip it over and use the lid! Put the sponge and paper in the lid and use the container as the top when you store your palette. Works great.
Love these videos showing the basics of painting that a lot of channels seem to take for granted. Starting to use a wet palette was a major boost for my painting as well. I started off with kitchen towel and baking parchment in a sandwich box as well and I'm still using it after several years. The only change I've made is to use a dish washing sponge instead of paper towel - still very cheap but seems to be more consistent and last longer.
Something I'd love to see is recipes for paint: Leather, red cape, faces: dark and light skin, guns, blades. These are things found on nearly any model, and knowing how others approach them would be great.
I love you man. You really took care about complete noobs in painting as I am. Turns out even early tips of such simple thing as wet pallete i read online were completly wrong.... They said to put water to the top layer of the towel.... i always ended up with lots of water on top of the paper which ruined my paints... Thank you.
I definitely agree that the wet palette was one of the biggest improvements in my (limited) painting skill and ranks along with learning about dry-brushing (many, many years ago), washes (many years ago) and airbrushes (very recently) as the biggest "game-changers" in my painting. I'm sure there is plenty more for me to learn and that list may be extended!
THIS was one of the best videos on how to actually use one of these types of palettes, and I'm extremely glad you mentioned the thing about it not being a palette meant for saving paints for days on end. When I started to use one of these I would often get replies that it was the 8th world wonder where you could leave your mixes on for weeks and then just pop back like nothing happened and just add a little water. I was going insane because my experience was that after a day or two the paints were split into sunders and I thought I was doing something wrong, since everyone told me it could save my paints for weeks. It's not some magical wonder that saves paints for eternity and newcomers need to know that. It is however something that helps you tremendously and gives you time to work with the paint, so you dont have to rush before it dries out.
Thank you. 🙏 Yes, I totally agree and I’m so glad that has come across in the video, as it’s something I wanted to warn people about. I don’t think it gets said enough Thanks for watch man 👍
Well this is the most concise, engaging, and informative guide I've seen. As a beginner, this is insanely valuable. Appreciate the tip to make it as low cost as possible as well.
“Fighting against the paint” You nailed it exactly… I am new to miniature painting and my god no matter what, all i get is brushstrokes and texture! Now with your video on wet palette and thinning, i feel as though i can do my upcoming Morvenn Vahl justice!
Gave up on using a wet palette because I found my mixes dried out just as fast as on a dry palette. First time I’ve seen it mentioned that you need more than one layer of kitchen paper. Will definitely be giving it another go after seeing this 👍
Ah yeah! you need to have a reservoir of water big enough to offset the paint drying out. It sounds like yours was too small and dried out just as quick as the paint did. Increasing the reservoir will help for sure
I've just got back into the hobby and my last time was in 3rd edition so a lot has changed 😂 I picked up a reputable wet pallet and did everything you said except for leaving my paint as a blob. It has been driving me crazy having the paint dry out so quick but now I understand why, thank you!
Ah yeah Spread it out on the palette and you just increase the surface area for it to evaporate from. Blobs FTW! Thanks for watching, glad it was useful
To be honest this actually gave me a better explanation than the brand I'm using videos, I already know how to use one but I always refresh my knowledge, its so easy to go back and do previous mistakes especially with contaminating brushes with washes, flakes and dirty water, very good video.
Thanks for watching, really glad you found it helpful. There are products in this hobby I think do warrant an investment in, as it returns better results. Wet palettes aren’t one of them. There really is no reason to spend big money on branded products when the diy version cost next to nothing and frankly works better. More money for minis 👍
i use Wettex "ragg", its a cleaning sponge for cleaning tables etc. Wettex is a swedish brand, so don't know if you can get that, but it works just like the sponge you get with a retail wetpalette like army painters etc.
Thanks for this video and for how clearly everything was explained and demonstrated. I have begun to research wet pallettes lately since I felt I wanted to take my mini painting up a notch, and this video has helped a lot!
Your last video just clicked for me, where others have not. It has unlocked painting enjoyment for me! I was always struggling with getting the correct consistency and ended up with bad results and a bad mood. My last 2 sessions have been great and I have been able to get the right paint consistency each time! If you ever do painting lessons in the UK I will be on that list!
Thank you I'm so glad you're enjoying the channel and finding the videos useful. I have a lot of great videos planned, so stay tuned and please help spread the word to your hobby friends so I can keep making them :)
Finally a good wet palette video. All other videos on wet palette is just: "Ad paint on your wet palette and start to paint". So I did that on my first painting, and it went really bad.
Wow, tonight, I had many questions about painting miniature and I was searching TH-cam. Your channel answered all those questions tonight ! I learned so much from you ! I am an old beginner and I am very grateful for your channel. I want to apply all I am learning on HO model trains (1:87) and also to their very small figurines...
Fantastic! I’m really glad to hear you found the answers you were after. Thanks for checking out my channel, I hope you’ll stay and watch more when you get a chance 👍
Thank you and Welcome to the hobby 👍 Really glad you’re enjoying my channel. I do try and not only show what I do but give some reasoning as to why I do it that way too. 🙂
@@BrushstrokePaintingGuides I have just succesfully made my own wet pallette and thinned my paint down to the perfect amount!! Got so excited to having a understanding that I want to add more layers! Really thank you for your amazing guides!!
Alright, I wanna thank you for your great job doing all these guides. I've been watching video for years, everytime I wanted to start painting minis again, but could never get it. I did finally got it somewhat right (thinning the paints, I mean rn) but it hasnt been until I've been watching your videos now, that I've finally got it right. And I feel confident, knowing that I'm doing it the right way, seeing how you do it step by step. So keep up the great work, please!
This might be a dumb question, but... How do you get your paint out like that? I see your paints aren't in dropper bottles, so how do you decant your paint from citadel pot to wet pallette and keep it nice and heaped?
No such thing as a dumb question. Never worry about asking something. So, I have a couple of old brushes (one for metallics and one non-metallics) I use as scoops basically. The bristles are pretty much ruined on them, so they make perfect little shovels to scoop the paint from the pot and then heap onto the palette. Also, if I'm rushing and can't be bothered finding my old brush I do sometimes just use the end of the handle of the brush I'm currently using to grab some paint from the pot. Just remember to wipe it off, or you can get into a horrible mess quickly :D Hope that helps
I love your videos for their clear presentation and generally find your advice to be good advice. I have already used a wet palette (Redgrass) so I know how helpful they are to painters, but I bought some of that particular type of parchment paper you suggested and have found it to be absolutely the best I've ever tried. Many thanks for the tip.
Thank you. Really glad you’re enjoying the channel and finding my videos useful. As for the paper, I’ve not actually used any shop bought wet palettes, but I’m rapidly learning their palette paper isn’t a patch on the paper I use. So, it’s great to hear you’ve found that too. Ideally I’d like to put a comparison video together so other people can see the differences and decide which would be best for them 👍
Yes the guide on making a wet palette is awesome, but I'm picking pieces of my brain off the floor after watching you use the end of a paintbrush to gather medium instead of a second brush or repeated cleans. Truly a genius beyond mere mortals
Excellent painting tutorial. Thank you for taking the time to explain the what, how, and why for shades and washes. I understand the process so much better now.
So THATs what parchment paper means. I've heard it a lot and just assumed Brits just had their own word for printing paper. I appreciate the clarification.
I use the lid as base for my wet palette for easy access to the paint. Of course I need to be more careful to not use too much water. A wash bottle does the trick.
Your videos are awesome, I find your explanations extremely precise and easy to understand at the same time 🔝 P.S.: as a returning miniature painter after a long time break, I can definitely say that my "first click" was after watching your previous paint thinning video 👍🏻
Great video on wet palettes. One big tip on why I like the Masterson one is the shallow height. With the shallow edges I feel I have better control when rolling my brush into a point after dipping it into the paint since Im able to bring my brush into the palette with a much flatter angle. Of course you are a pro at this process with your sharp, crisp edge highlighting and detail work ;)
Thanks man. No, you’re totally right. The big advantage a purchased palette has is it’s designed for that purpose and has a very low profile. So I totally get why people love it. I think I’m just lazy to change 🤣 One option which other people do (and I think has been mentioned in comments here too) is use the lid of the container as the tray rather than the container itself. Unfortunately my lid isn’t really deep enough for that but it’s a great alternative.
was brought to your channel via @poorhammer TH-camrs, and they were right on the money! This list of hobby fundamentals is EXACTLY what I need. Thank you for your details and going step by step, the why and why not's. 7/5, nailed it.
Just a Tip for people still using their white plastic dry pallets, won’t be as effective as the wet pallet obviously, but if you put your dry pallet inside a large ziplock bag it will keep the paints from drying out as fast while your taking a break or letting your mini dry.
Thanks so much for sharing this. My daughter has been painting for along time and never even knew of a wet palette. Your diy instructions are great. I have purchased my roll of Parchment Baking Paper from Amazon Au to do a diy wet palette. Thanks you
If you can find them cheaply, J-cloth 'scrubbing' sponge cloths (they are sometimes labelled as cellulose sponge cloths) work really well instead of the paper towel
Thank you so much for sharing this DIY. I’m about to paint some miniatures for the first time and this makes me excited to try for the next batch I work on.
I remembered finding your channel some time ago, but not subscribing because you hadn't uploaded for some time... glad to see you back with such helpful guides! Hope you'll continue, now I can't NOT subscribe.
I’m glad you came back man and you’re liking the new videos. Unfortunately I don’t get as much time as I would like to spend on my channel, as the day job does take priority. So, there can be times where I don’t post for a while. What I do try and do though is make each video I post as good as possible so it’s at least worth the wait. Thanks for the sub, it’s really appreciated and hopefully one day I’ll be able to make enough from the channel to do it fulltime and be able to do a video a week 🤞
@@BrushstrokePaintingGuides Godspeed, man. Yeah, it war REALLY helpful. I've been painting for almost two years now, although irregularly, and, despite using a wet palette since D1, I still struggle sometimes to understand what the best way to thin my paint. The latest videos helped a lot, hope you'll do more basic tutorials for noobs like me.
Great video! You would not believe how hard i have been looking for a decent container for my wet palette. I have not found a single one that is the right size/shape. And yes, i have been to the dollar store, walmart, grocery stores, hobby stores 😅 its kinda ridiculous actually
Thanks for watching So, if you’re really struggling to find a suitable container, try coming at it from another angle. Because the reservoir doesn’t need to be very deep you can actually use the lid of the container as the tray, add your paper towel or sponge for the reservoir, saturate it and add your membrane. You then have an ultra low profile palette which you can then seal it by putting the container on top as the lid. It actually works really well. Hope that makes sense and helps you find a suitable container 👍
I've been using the Redgrass wet palette for a while now and though it's good, I wouldn't say it's great. The lid isn't a great seal and the paper doesn't have that grease coating like parchment paper and the paint can quickly dry on it and stick.... getting the right paper is key for this to work.. and when it does.. it's a bloody game changer for your painting....
I’ve not used a Redgrass palette myself, but I’ve heard from others that their membrane is very different to parchment paper. I believe they’ve developed a unique surface which is meant to be more akin to the surface of the model you’re painting on, so you can more accurately predict how the paint will behave. From the sounds of it though, that does mean the paint doesn’t as easily display the characteristics I demonstrated in the video. So, as you say, I think I’ll still with the paper I use 👍 Thanks for watching
Brillant video ! Easy to understand, and the "how to make your own" is very good ! I already use a wer pallet, a baught one, but I will keep your idea in mind, just in case 😉👍🏻
Thank you, really glad you found it useful. As you already have a bought palette, you may want to see how the price of replacement sheets compares to a roll of the paper I use, as I believe you could save yourself a lot of money using the roll of paper instead. Something to consider 👍
Fantastic videos, my sincere congratulations. You are very didactic and clear. One doubt about the wet palette, can contrast paints (or similar) be used?
Thanks for watching Yes, absolutely contrast, washes, speed paints can be used on a wet palette. I do it all the time. Where the confusion seems to have crept in is some off the shelf wet palettes come with membrane paper which lets WAY too much water through and instead of just replacing the moisture lost from evaporation, it is actually diluting the paints on the palette too. The Army Painter wet palette seems to be the biggest culprit of this. Worse still, that membrane even let’s contrast paints etc seep back through to the reservoir and contaminate that. The paper I use (listed in the description) 100% has none of those problems and is a fraction of the price of these branded products. I hear RedGrass is a lot better, so maybe just avoid Army Painter?
Some really useful lessons on this channel! I've seen everyone using these palettes in their videos, but tried to make one with paper towels/cloth only (it didn't go too well x) I also thought you need a spray can or an aerograph to achieve smooth surfaces, but there's another video about that - many thanks, keep up the good work!
Really helpful video BPG (sorry unsure of your first name) you explain things really well. Have you got any tips on keeping your brush pointed during a session please or would be fantastic if you do a short video please as I’m more of a visual learner. Thank you 😊
Thanks Steve You can just call me Brushstroke 🙂 I do have a video on brushes as it happens, give this a watch th-cam.com/video/chBHaXh8iko/w-d-xo.html Hope it helps
Thank you James, I was curious how they worked. I ended up buying the small RedGrass Games wet pallet a while ago, but really did not understand the intricacies of its use until viewing this video. Thank you for your help.
Thanks John. I’ve never tried a RedGrass palette, but I understand from some comments to my last video, paint doesn’t behave the same way on their membrane. Having read their website it looks like they’ve developed a unique surface which can be reused. So, it must have different properties. I’m going to try and get one to test though, as I’m curious.
@@BrushstrokePaintingGuides I really have not understand their use, so I will be very interested in your observations. I think I am keeping too much water in it.
@@BrushstrokePaintingGuides James, did you ever evaluate the Red Grass wet palette? Obviously I have not yet viewed all your videos to date, but a search did not reveal anything, so if done, please point me to it. Thank you.
Thank you, your videos are very helpful for beginer like me. Your videos help me a lot to get start on this hobbies. Looking for your next videos and thank you again.
We love the Game Envy Exemplar Wet Palette. They have a Kickstarter with about 2 days remaining now (for paint cups and scrubbies, but the palettes can be added on). Plus, their hobby holder is my favorite.
Absolutely Bought ones are obviously more convenient initially but their cost doesn’t justify it and then when you factor in cost of replacement membrane sheets. It just doesn’t make sense. Thanks for watching, really glad you found it helpful 👍
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I absolutely love your videos not only tells you how but gives you the why. No one on TH-cam does that. It’s exactly what I needed.
Hell yeah its useful thanks man
Made mine years ago from items from the dollar store for under $5 us. Still use it. Rather spend my money on kits.
This video is great, One thing I do need is what brand of baking paper are you using? I am uk based and i'm finding it difficult to get this working. Cheers
No rambling, no crazy intro, no overly drawn out backstory, just the clean delivery of information. I really appreciate that. Maybe sometime I'd like to hear how you got into the hobby, but I really appreciate how informative and straight to the point your videos are. I have liked and subscribed to your channel.
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I found that making your parchment paper slightly smaller than the container lets it grow as it becomes damp whithout pressing against the sides. That reduces the papers tendency to wrinkle at the edges and makes it easier to get a smooth surface.
Good call!
It’s so great to have people sharing their tips and experiences on here. Thank you
No waffle, no hyperbole - straight to the point. Subscribed
Thanks for watching and welcome to the channel.
You summed up exactly what I try and do.
Hope you enjoy my other videos 👍
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@@BrushstrokePaintingGuides thanks a lot for doing that. can't stand those clickbaity intense videos even if in the end they tell me what I want to know. I am very confident that every minuite of watching your videos is well spent. :)
Your lack of waffle is very refreshing.
Great DIY tips, much appreciated.
I've been using a Redgrass palette for a year, and it's made a world of difference. Without a lie, paint can last up to 2 weeks on it. It's an impressive bit of kit.
It’s clear from their website they’ve put a lot of R&D into their palette and it certainly looks a great bit of kit.
It really doesn’t surprise me to hear they’ve managed to make a palette which can prolong paint for days. Nice one 👍
@@musashidanmcgrath get one from green stuff world, cheaper than the others and the paper is better than red grass games, all sponges get mouldy if you leave em closed for too long, put a brass or copper piece in the sponge water and itll never get moldy
@@MutsuKazuma Thanks for the recommendation. I think it's time for a new one.
i have the same and I really like the container and the foam but I don't like the paper that comes with them. thin paint layers dry very fast. I also tried the washable membranes and while i like the membranes a bit more i prefer regular baking / parchment paper. but as I said the container and the foam are really nice and with the paper it's a bit of personal preference. my friend loves the redgrass paper for example.
I just got into painting miniatures and am a noob at painting, but the redgrass palette made painting easy. I got the mini for $30 (comes with two pads and 50 sheets), and it’s worth every penny. Mixing and thinning down is super easy. I just hope if there is anyone who sees your comment, new or who doesn’t have one, gets one. It’s worth it.
I would love to see a video on brush control. As someone with shaky hands I often get paint where I don't want it. Some better techniques for brush control seem like a good way to get better.
One trick I was taught was hold the brush like a pen and the model by the base, press your wrists together, and elbows on the table.
Hold the brush like a pen right on the metal, anchor your little finger against the model somewhere for stability
The Mini Primetime episode with Taliesin Jaffe on the Critical Role channel has some great tips. He has an essential tremor, and using their techniques he was able to paint very fine details.
Between this guy and RPG archive you’ve got more craft/hobby help you’ll ever need
I've just watched your video on thinning paint and now I'm halfway through this one. Thank you so much for taking the time to explain these concepts so thoroughly and clearly!
Nice one
So glad you’re finding them useful 👍
I'm an older chap who's about to get back into miniature painting after a 25 year hiatus, and this has completely demystified wet palette theory, construction, and usage. Nice one mate!
Thanks for watching man and welcome back to the hobby.
Really glad to hear you found this video useful 👍
Similar story here - stopped playing Warhammer Fantasy in 2014, when this wasn't a thing. Certainly a great tool I am looking forward to using, as filming was certainly an issue as I painted.
Just found your videos as I start to get into painting minis again. just what I needed. straight to the point, no long introduction, lot's of useful tips and tricks. Thanks for the content!
For those struggling to find an ideal tray , buy some Ferrero Rocher , eat them , and save the tray and lid .
That's exactly what i'm using right now 😂
Mad tip cheers!
Hahah Thanks for the Tip
I picked up a cheap lunch container at the local supermarket; it's got a flexible seal on the lid and four snap-down latches to hold it closed, and I'd previously bought one to hold Indian bay leaves, so I knew it sealed well. Two layers of 'swedish kitchen towel' and a piece of parchment paper, and I've got the wet palette ready for use.
Instructions unclear, I'm on my second tray of chocolate...
Was recently catching up on some of Duncan Rhodes tutorials and saw what he was capable of with a wet palette. Bought one not long after and it has changed my life. Citadel paints dry within a couple minutes on a normal palette, even with water added and now I don't have to stress out about it.
I'm also pretty much convinced that Duncan left GW just so that he could stop using exclusively Citadel branded stuff and a wet palette.
They really are a gamer changer.
I doubt Duncan’s reasons for leaving GW were related to being restricted to GW products. It certainly can’t have been related to not being able to use a wet palette, as some of the paint tutorials published on Warhammer+ actually used a wet palette 🙂
I image he simply wanted to follow his own path and ideas.
When I started this hobby 3 years ago I watched so many videos on wet blending and other advanced techniques when all I wanted was for someone to teach me the absolute basics. Thanks! This is exactly what I need. I've subbed and I look forward to seeing more content.
I live in a high-altitude semi-arid area, with highs typically around 35C in the summer and lows well below 0C in the winter. FWIW, since inside air is regularly exchanged with outside air and typically maintains a constant temperature, the absolute amount of water carried by the air can generally be tracked by looking at the current dew point. This changes if you humidify or dehumidify your air. Using that measure, winter is usually the time where there is the least water in the air, with our dew points being typically around -20C to -10C in the winter. In summer, it's typically in the range of 5-15C. Our dew point right now (31 March) is -13C. (This is why static electricity is a bigger problem in the winter than the summer.)
I've been using a wet palette for probably 20 years now and can say that your advice is generally quite good. The one thing I do differently is that I use fewer layers of paper towel (normally 3 layers) and I cut the paper towel to be a bit smaller than the palette. The space around the wet palette is keep filled with water, which is absorbed by the paper as it evaporates from the surface. When the water reservoir starts to get low, I add more water around the edge of the palette.
Also, when if I put dry parchment on top of the wet paper towel, the bottom of the paper hydrates and expands more quickly than the top, so the paper tends to curl. The paper will eventually relax, so it's not necessary to do anything about this, but I find it convenient to put the parchment below the paper towel before adding water, then flip when everything is fully hydrated. After flipping, I scrape a plastic protractor across the surface of the parchment to drive out air bubbles and flatten the surface. (There's nothing particularly special about the protractor except that it's the right size and the edge isn't too sharp.)
Thanks for taking the time to write this. It’s really interesting. It’s difficult to know how things behave in different parts of the world. So, I appreciate your feedback 👍
Taking it to the next level - as one might expect from someone named Doug. Thanks for the tips.
More basic tutorials for absolute beginners please :) I would love to see more videos where you break down painting figures and cover each step along the way, such as paints and brushes used and also techniques. Sub+
Thank you
All my videos are beginner friendly and include what brush I use, and the exact paint for every step of the process.
I am also adding more in-depth fundamentals videos to cover in detail techniques and processes.
Great to have you onboard
Enjoy the channel 👍
Great video, thank you! Another tip I found helpful is if you only have a deep container and don't want to keep reaching over the lip to dip your brush, just flip it over and use the lid! Put the sponge and paper in the lid and use the container as the top when you store your palette. Works great.
Love these videos showing the basics of painting that a lot of channels seem to take for granted.
Starting to use a wet palette was a major boost for my painting as well. I started off with kitchen towel and baking parchment in a sandwich box as well and I'm still using it after several years. The only change I've made is to use a dish washing sponge instead of paper towel - still very cheap but seems to be more consistent and last longer.
Hello, thank you for this. I just started using a wet palette and needed some pointers. 🙂
Something I'd love to see is recipes for paint: Leather, red cape, faces: dark and light skin, guns, blades. These are things found on nearly any model, and knowing how others approach them would be great.
I love you man. You really took care about complete noobs in painting as I am. Turns out even early tips of such simple thing as wet pallete i read online were completly wrong.... They said to put water to the top layer of the towel.... i always ended up with lots of water on top of the paper which ruined my paints... Thank you.
Haha, you’re very welcome.
Just glad you’re enjoying the channel 👍
your videos are so good! succinct but have all the context background information to know why things are important. thanks so much!
Awesome; thanks for watching man
So glad to hear you’re enjoying my channel and finding it useful.
Please tell all your hobby buddies 👍
I definitely agree that the wet palette was one of the biggest improvements in my (limited) painting skill and ranks along with learning about dry-brushing (many, many years ago), washes (many years ago) and airbrushes (very recently) as the biggest "game-changers" in my painting.
I'm sure there is plenty more for me to learn and that list may be extended!
Nice one
Great to hear I'm not alone
THIS was one of the best videos on how to actually use one of these types of palettes, and I'm extremely glad you mentioned the thing about it not being a palette meant for saving paints for days on end.
When I started to use one of these I would often get replies that it was the 8th world wonder where you could leave your mixes on for weeks and then just pop back like nothing happened and just add a little water.
I was going insane because my experience was that after a day or two the paints were split into sunders and I thought I was doing something wrong, since everyone told me it could save my paints for weeks.
It's not some magical wonder that saves paints for eternity and newcomers need to know that. It is however something that helps you tremendously and gives you time to work with the paint, so you dont have to rush before it dries out.
Thank you. 🙏
Yes, I totally agree and I’m so glad that has come across in the video, as it’s something I wanted to warn people about.
I don’t think it gets said enough
Thanks for watch man 👍
Well this is the most concise, engaging, and informative guide I've seen.
As a beginner, this is insanely valuable.
Appreciate the tip to make it as low cost as possible as well.
Thanks very much
Really glad you’ve found it useful. 👍
“Fighting against the paint”
You nailed it exactly… I am new to miniature painting and my god no matter what, all i get is brushstrokes and texture!
Now with your video on wet palette and thinning, i feel as though i can do my upcoming Morvenn Vahl justice!
Thanks for the vid, learnt everything I need to know about a wet pallet 👍🏼
Gave up on using a wet palette because I found my mixes dried out just as fast as on a dry palette. First time I’ve seen it mentioned that you need more than one layer of kitchen paper. Will definitely be giving it another go after seeing this 👍
Ah yeah! you need to have a reservoir of water big enough to offset the paint drying out.
It sounds like yours was too small and dried out just as quick as the paint did.
Increasing the reservoir will help for sure
I've just got back into the hobby and my last time was in 3rd edition so a lot has changed 😂
I picked up a reputable wet pallet and did everything you said except for leaving my paint as a blob. It has been driving me crazy having the paint dry out so quick but now I understand why, thank you!
Ah yeah
Spread it out on the palette and you just increase the surface area for it to evaporate from.
Blobs FTW!
Thanks for watching, glad it was useful
My brother got me all the bits to set up my own pallete. Your video pointed me in the right direction for getting started.
Fantastic, so glad you found it useful 👍
You sir have my greatest appreciation for your videos. Taking the time to explain what every one glosses over and assumes a base knowledge is amazing.
Really glad you’re enjoying the channel 👍
Excellent. Really clear and helpful
To be honest this actually gave me a better explanation than the brand I'm using videos, I already know how to use one but I always refresh my knowledge, its so easy to go back and do previous mistakes especially with contaminating brushes with washes, flakes and dirty water, very good video.
I used a homemade wet pallet for the first time today and I will never paint without it again. This video was exactly what I needed. Thank you.
Loved this!!! 🤩😍 total beginner here 🙈 totally amazed at the “blob thing/technique”
Thank you so much 😊
Hey!
Welcome to the hobby and my channel.
Really hope you find my videos helpful.
Keep painting and have fun 👍
Thanks for this usefull and cheap advice, its easy to make this important tool. 👍🏻Greetings from México.
Thank you for this. You've just saved me money for no drop in quality of outcome: and the process is so easy! Much appreciated.
Thanks for watching, really glad you found it helpful.
There are products in this hobby I think do warrant an investment in, as it returns better results. Wet palettes aren’t one of them. There really is no reason to spend big money on branded products when the diy version cost next to nothing and frankly works better.
More money for minis 👍
i use Wettex "ragg", its a cleaning sponge for cleaning tables etc. Wettex is a swedish brand, so don't know if you can get that, but it works just like the sponge you get with a retail wetpalette like army painters etc.
Nice one, good tip 👍
Thanks for this video and for how clearly everything was explained and demonstrated. I have begun to research wet pallettes lately since I felt I wanted to take my mini painting up a notch, and this video has helped a lot!
Thank you for this, just starting out and I heard about a wet palette but didn't know how it worked and how I could make it myself :)
Your last video just clicked for me, where others have not. It has unlocked painting enjoyment for me! I was always struggling with getting the correct consistency and ended up with bad results and a bad mood. My last 2 sessions have been great and I have been able to get the right paint consistency each time!
If you ever do painting lessons in the UK I will be on that list!
Thank you, that’s so awesome to hear.
Really glad it’s had such a positive result for you. Keep it up man 🤛
Thank you for showing this!
i've watched a few of your videos now - really like the straightforward presentation and accuracy with your videos! - keep them coming
Thank you
I'm so glad you're enjoying the channel and finding the videos useful.
I have a lot of great videos planned, so stay tuned and please help spread the word to your hobby friends so I can keep making them :)
Finally a good wet palette video. All other videos on wet palette is just: "Ad paint on your wet palette and start to paint".
So I did that on my first painting, and it went really bad.
Thanks for giving it a watch, really glad you've found it helpful
Wow, tonight, I had many questions about painting miniature and I was searching TH-cam. Your channel answered all those questions tonight ! I learned so much from you ! I am an old beginner and I am very grateful for your channel. I want to apply all I am learning on HO model trains (1:87) and also to their very small figurines...
Fantastic!
I’m really glad to hear you found the answers you were after.
Thanks for checking out my channel, I hope you’ll stay and watch more when you get a chance 👍
I am recently starting this hobby, but man... Your explanation of things with visual and science like approach is the best I have come across!
Thank you and Welcome to the hobby 👍
Really glad you’re enjoying my channel.
I do try and not only show what I do but give some reasoning as to why I do it that way too. 🙂
@@BrushstrokePaintingGuides I have just succesfully made my own wet pallette and thinned my paint down to the perfect amount!!
Got so excited to having a understanding that I want to add more layers!
Really thank you for your amazing guides!!
@@sanzaru1674 that is so amazing it hear, thank you.
To know my guides have had such a positive effect means the world to me 🙏
Alright, I wanna thank you for your great job doing all these guides. I've been watching video for years, everytime I wanted to start painting minis again, but could never get it. I did finally got it somewhat right (thinning the paints, I mean rn) but it hasnt been until I've been watching your videos now, that I've finally got it right. And I feel confident, knowing that I'm doing it the right way, seeing how you do it step by step. So keep up the great work, please!
Thank you, this is amazing feedback, really glad the videos have been helpful for you 👍
This might be a dumb question, but... How do you get your paint out like that? I see your paints aren't in dropper bottles, so how do you decant your paint from citadel pot to wet pallette and keep it nice and heaped?
No such thing as a dumb question. Never worry about asking something.
So, I have a couple of old brushes (one for metallics and one non-metallics) I use as scoops basically.
The bristles are pretty much ruined on them, so they make perfect little shovels to scoop the paint from the pot and then heap onto the palette.
Also, if I'm rushing and can't be bothered finding my old brush I do sometimes just use the end of the handle of the brush I'm currently using to grab some paint from the pot.
Just remember to wipe it off, or you can get into a horrible mess quickly :D
Hope that helps
Great video, short, to the point, easy to learn from, thank you!
Awesome!
Exactly what I wanted it to be 👍
I love your videos for their clear presentation and generally find your advice to be good advice. I have already used a wet palette (Redgrass) so I know how helpful they are to painters, but I bought some of that particular type of parchment paper you suggested and have found it to be absolutely the best I've ever tried. Many thanks for the tip.
Thank you.
Really glad you’re enjoying the channel and finding my videos useful.
As for the paper, I’ve not actually used any shop bought wet palettes, but I’m rapidly learning their palette paper isn’t a patch on the paper I use. So, it’s great to hear you’ve found that too.
Ideally I’d like to put a comparison video together so other people can see the differences and decide which would be best for them 👍
Very helpful. Thanks!
Yes the guide on making a wet palette is awesome, but I'm picking pieces of my brain off the floor after watching you use the end of a paintbrush to gather medium instead of a second brush or repeated cleans. Truly a genius beyond mere mortals
Excellent painting tutorial. Thank you for taking the time to explain the what, how, and why for shades and washes. I understand the process so much better now.
thank you i have made many stay wet palettes,i used metal tins with lids ,i use wet fabrics for some of them ,it stays wet for weeks,thank you
So THATs what parchment paper means. I've heard it a lot and just assumed Brits just had their own word for printing paper. I appreciate the clarification.
I use the lid as base for my wet palette for easy access to the paint. Of course I need to be more careful to not use too much water. A wash bottle does the trick.
Using the lid is a great idea for sure.
As long as it’s deep enough for the reservoir, it makes total sense to use the lid 👍
Your videos are awesome, I find your explanations extremely precise and easy to understand at the same time 🔝
P.S.: as a returning miniature painter after a long time break, I can definitely say that my "first click" was after watching your previous paint thinning video 👍🏻
Thank you 🙏
Really glad to hear you’re enjoying the channel and it’s proving useful for you
Fantastic! Thank you for this excellent tutorial. I can't wait to build my own wet palette so I can start using my new acrylic gouache.
Great video on wet palettes. One big tip on why I like the Masterson one is the shallow height. With the shallow edges I feel I have better control when rolling my brush into a point after dipping it into the paint since Im able to bring my brush into the palette with a much flatter angle. Of course you are a pro at this process with your sharp, crisp edge highlighting and detail work ;)
Thanks man.
No, you’re totally right. The big advantage a purchased palette has is it’s designed for that purpose and has a very low profile. So I totally get why people love it. I think I’m just lazy to change 🤣
One option which other people do (and I think has been mentioned in comments here too) is use the lid of the container as the tray rather than the container itself.
Unfortunately my lid isn’t really deep enough for that but it’s a great alternative.
Thank you! Useful!
was brought to your channel via @poorhammer TH-camrs, and they were right on the money! This list of hobby fundamentals is EXACTLY what I need. Thank you for your details and going step by step, the why and why not's. 7/5, nailed it.
Thank you so much 🙏
So glad you followed their recommendation and my videos didn’t disappoint, phew 😀
Just a Tip for people still using their white plastic dry pallets, won’t be as effective as the wet pallet obviously, but if you put your dry pallet inside a large ziplock bag it will keep the paints from drying out as fast while your taking a break or letting your mini dry.
Thanks so much for sharing this. My daughter has been painting for along time and never even knew of a wet palette. Your diy instructions are great. I have purchased my roll of Parchment Baking Paper from Amazon Au to do a diy wet palette. Thanks you
great guide, thank you
Thanks for watching
Glad it was useful
If you can find them cheaply, J-cloth 'scrubbing' sponge cloths (they are sometimes labelled as cellulose sponge cloths) work really well instead of the paper towel
Good call. I've seen the cloths you mean and yes for sure they would work great
Also can be found under "swedish dishcloths"
Underrated comment. Came to say the same thing.
Just discovered your channel and I love how clear these guides are.
If I could make a request, could you make a video on brush control?
A novice painter has been inspired. Thank you
Thank you so much for sharing this DIY. I’m about to paint some miniatures for the first time and this makes me excited to try for the next batch I work on.
Tnx for share knowledge ❤
I remembered finding your channel some time ago, but not subscribing because you hadn't uploaded for some time... glad to see you back with such helpful guides! Hope you'll continue, now I can't NOT subscribe.
I’m glad you came back man and you’re liking the new videos.
Unfortunately I don’t get as much time as I would like to spend on my channel, as the day job does take priority. So, there can be times where I don’t post for a while.
What I do try and do though is make each video I post as good as possible so it’s at least worth the wait.
Thanks for the sub, it’s really appreciated and hopefully one day I’ll be able to make enough from the channel to do it fulltime and be able to do a video a week 🤞
@@BrushstrokePaintingGuides Godspeed, man.
Yeah, it war REALLY helpful. I've been painting for almost two years now, although irregularly, and, despite using a wet palette since D1, I still struggle sometimes to understand what the best way to thin my paint. The latest videos helped a lot, hope you'll do more basic tutorials for noobs like me.
Great video! You would not believe how hard i have been looking for a decent container for my wet palette. I have not found a single one that is the right size/shape. And yes, i have been to the dollar store, walmart, grocery stores, hobby stores 😅 its kinda ridiculous actually
Thanks for watching
So, if you’re really struggling to find a suitable container, try coming at it from another angle.
Because the reservoir doesn’t need to be very deep you can actually use the lid of the container as the tray, add your paper towel or sponge for the reservoir, saturate it and add your membrane.
You then have an ultra low profile palette which you can then seal it by putting the container on top as the lid.
It actually works really well.
Hope that makes sense and helps you find a suitable container 👍
YES!!! I want to see more, you are a fabulous teacher, ty
Thank you so much, really glad you're enjoying the channel
Love your videos!! 1 of thee best informative wet palette videos ive watched
Thank you, so glad you’re enjoying the videos and finding them useful
I've been using the Redgrass wet palette for a while now and though it's good, I wouldn't say it's great. The lid isn't a great seal and the paper doesn't have that grease coating like parchment paper and the paint can quickly dry on it and stick.... getting the right paper is key for this to work.. and when it does.. it's a bloody game changer for your painting....
I’ve not used a Redgrass palette myself, but I’ve heard from others that their membrane is very different to parchment paper. I believe they’ve developed a unique surface which is meant to be more akin to the surface of the model you’re painting on, so you can more accurately predict how the paint will behave.
From the sounds of it though, that does mean the paint doesn’t as easily display the characteristics I demonstrated in the video.
So, as you say, I think I’ll still with the paper I use 👍
Thanks for watching
Was about to buy one, but gonna make my own now. Thanks for the vid!!
Make one for sure. It’s so easy to do and it cost a fraction of the price of the brand ones.
Let me know how you get on 👍
Brillant video !
Easy to understand, and the "how to make your own" is very good !
I already use a wer pallet, a baught one, but I will keep your idea in mind, just in case 😉👍🏻
Thank you, really glad you found it useful.
As you already have a bought palette, you may want to see how the price of replacement sheets compares to a roll of the paper I use, as I believe you could save yourself a lot of money using the roll of paper instead.
Something to consider 👍
@@BrushstrokePaintingGuides I already considered it as soon as I watched your video yesterday, and this roll of paper is in my amazon basket now 😁
Fantastic videos, my sincere congratulations. You are very didactic and clear. One doubt about the wet palette, can contrast paints (or similar) be used?
Thanks for watching
Yes, absolutely contrast, washes, speed paints can be used on a wet palette.
I do it all the time.
Where the confusion seems to have crept in is some off the shelf wet palettes come with membrane paper which lets WAY too much water through and instead of just replacing the moisture lost from evaporation, it is actually diluting the paints on the palette too.
The Army Painter wet palette seems to be the biggest culprit of this.
Worse still, that membrane even let’s contrast paints etc seep back through to the reservoir and contaminate that.
The paper I use (listed in the description)
100% has none of those problems and is a fraction of the price of these branded products.
I hear RedGrass is a lot better, so maybe just avoid Army Painter?
thanks!
Some really useful lessons on this channel! I've seen everyone using these palettes in their videos, but tried to make one with paper towels/cloth only (it didn't go too well x)
I also thought you need a spray can or an aerograph to achieve smooth surfaces, but there's another video about that - many thanks, keep up the good work!
Thank you, really glad to hear you're enjoying the channel
Really helpful video BPG (sorry unsure of your first name) you explain things really well. Have you got any tips on keeping your brush pointed during a session please or would be fantastic if you do a short video please as I’m more of a visual learner. Thank you 😊
Thanks Steve
You can just call me Brushstroke 🙂
I do have a video on brushes as it happens, give this a watch
th-cam.com/video/chBHaXh8iko/w-d-xo.html
Hope it helps
Obrigada, foi um vídeo muito útil para mim.
I was not putting enough paper, so my wet pallete was more of a "kind of moist" pallete lol great video, as always! very clarifying
Thanks for watching man
Really glad it helped solve your problem 👍
Thank you James, I was curious how they worked. I ended up buying the small RedGrass Games wet pallet a while ago, but really did not understand the intricacies of its use until viewing this video. Thank you for your help.
Thanks John.
I’ve never tried a RedGrass palette, but I understand from some comments to my last video, paint doesn’t behave the same way on their membrane. Having read their website it looks like they’ve developed a unique surface which can be reused. So, it must have different properties.
I’m going to try and get one to test though, as I’m curious.
@@BrushstrokePaintingGuides I really have not understand their use, so I will be very interested in your observations. I think I am keeping too much water in it.
@@BrushstrokePaintingGuides James, did you ever evaluate the Red Grass wet palette? Obviously I have not yet viewed all your videos to date, but a search did not reveal anything, so if done, please point me to it. Thank you.
@@jhoodfysh sorry, no not yet
I got a bit sidetracked with washes and metallics
It’s still on the todo list though
@@BrushstrokePaintingGuides Excellent, I am pleased I have not missed it.
looked at a wet pallette online like army painter but those are just so expensive. thanks for the video.
Amazing buddy! Been trying to get into painting and your most recent videos have been helping loads! Keep up the good work 👍
Thank you 🙏
Really glad to hear you’re finding the channel useful
Thank you, your videos are very helpful for beginer like me. Your videos help me a lot to get start on this hobbies. Looking for your next videos and thank you again.
This was a lot of help. Thank you for sharing this.
Thanks for watching, glad it was helpful
Great Video, if you cant find a nice shallow container make the wet pallete in the lid and use the base as the lid.. thats what I did
I have a GSW wet palette, and I want to know what technique you all recommend for drying out the sponge, if i have to.
Good vid. I have a mini wet pallet just for metallic, that is what I use my off cut paper for.
i add a drop of dish soap under the towel/sponge. This helps fend off mold.
Really good video! Very informative! Thank you for sharing it and Merry Christmas to you and your family!
Thank you.
Really good to hear you found the video useful.
Happy New Year to you and your family 🥂
That was great!
We love the Game Envy Exemplar Wet Palette. They have a Kickstarter with about 2 days remaining now (for paint cups and scrubbies, but the palettes can be added on). Plus, their hobby holder is my favorite.
This is great thank you. I almost bought a commercial one today. But making one is cheaper, which is good, I can afford more minis and paint.
Absolutely
Bought ones are obviously more convenient initially but their cost doesn’t justify it and then when you factor in cost of replacement membrane sheets. It just doesn’t make sense.
Thanks for watching, really glad you found it helpful 👍
Youre an angel, thank you
I don't know if anyone has said this yet but if you put it in the fridge when you're done the paint will be good to use for almost a week
Thank you I used your wet palette today & it made painting a lpt easier
I've been using my wet palette incorrectly this whole time! Thanks for the guide!
Awesome video, made this so easy to understand and make 👍
Thanks for watching.
Really glad you found it useful