I respect and love both pastors. They are sincere children of God and have devoted their lives to serving God. The apostles also had disagreements, but God used them all. This incident tells us that we should pray for our beloved pastors whom the devil wants to destroy to harm God's work on earth. We don't pray enough for our pastors who are most attacked by the devil.
Thank you so much for this interview, it's a real blessing to know that we are not alone in this hour of need. May truth prevail; Lord bless those that are standing up and sharing truth no matter the consequences.
"If the cords are drawn much tighter, if the rules are made much finer, if men continue to bind their fellow laborers closer and closer to the commandments of men; many will be stirred by the Spirit of God to break every shackle and assert their liberty in Christ Jesus." 3 RH 275
Andy Roman, Are you aware that Loma Linda University Medical Center gave religious exemption to their employees from taking that shot, only after the employees threatened to all walk out if they mandated it? My inside source of info came from my chiropractor whose wife is a RN at LLUMC. He and his wife were against the shot, and she was going to have to quit if mandated. He told me all this himself. It was over 3,000 employees that would have quit and LLUMC couldn't take such a loss at one time! No institution could take such a loss all at once. I myself have worked at many hospitals thru the years, including LLUMC so I know what it takes to keep it going. LLUMC kept this quiet.
Great question . I believe that Dr. vine would have an appreate sermon to address the theme "The Church on Fire". The instructions were given to "Trust in the Lord with all our hearts , lean not on our own understanding He will direct out parts" or decisions. I believe that "Fear" was a variable that might have caused a cancellation decision. "What will he say at the upcoming even"?
The mighty shaking has commenced and will go on, and all will be shaken out who are not willing to take a bold and unyielding stand for the truth, and to sacrifice for God and His cause. The angel said: “Think ye that any will be compelled to sacrifice? No, no. It must be a freewill offering. It will take all to buy the field.” I cried to God to spare His people, some of whom were fainting and dying. Then I saw that the judgments of the Almighty were speedily coming, and I begged of the angel to speak in his language to the people. Said he, “All the thunders and lightnings of Mount Sinai would not move those who will not be moved by the plain truths of the word of God, neither would an angel’s message awake them.” CET 107.3
Bohr took one snippet of a statement from Vine and it changed the entire context of what Vine said....this snippet became a big deal because SUS made it a big deal by pulling Vine.
The denomination/corporation is in apostasy, and the Lord will deal with them terribly if they continue to push back against the truth. But the church is NOT the denomination, the church is alive and well as a spiritual body.
Not only had the temple been profaned, but the offerings had been misapplied. This tended to discourage the liberality of the people. They lost their zeal and fervor in the cause of God, and were reluctant to pay their tithes. The treasuries of the Lord's house were but poorly supplied; and the singers and others employed in the temple service not receiving a sufficient support, many left the work of God to labor elsewhere for the maintenance of their families. Nehemiah promptly corrected these abuses. He gathered together those who had forsaken the service of the house of God, and caused the tithes and offerings to be restored. Faithful men were appointed to take charge of the means raised, confidence was restored, and all Judah brought their tithes to the treasuries of the Lord. ST January 17, 1884, par. 4
God is exposing the lack of faith our leaders and people in the church have... praise God we can turn and repent, overcome thru Jesus, this is nothing...
Leadership has explained, in a way, why they don't believe that they can publicly repent. Multiple times they've made reference to legal representatives. This demonstrates fear of liabilities towards potentially millions of member victims. While the government offered certain groups immunity, these administrators don't share that luxury. Nether does the church if exposed to litigation brought about by accepting responsibility
@@comonsenseisdead bless your heart. If it was your husband or wife that died after they took the clot shot, like my friend or aunt did, would you be happy with a thousand dollars? Bcuz let's do the math scoot. 1 million people filling for serious injury regardless of financial, medical, or death, would cost the church 1 billion in claims. 10,000 each = bankruptcy
tested. Those who endeavor to obey all the commandments of God will be opposed and derided. They can stand only in God. In order to endure the trial before them, they must understand the will of God as revealed in His word; they can honor Him only as they have a right conception of His character, government, and purposes, and act in accordance with them. None but those who have fortified the mind with the truths of the Bible will stand through the last great conflict. To every soul will come the searching test: Shall I obey God rather than men? The decisive hour is even now at hand. Are our feet planted on the rock of God's immutable word? Are we prepared to stand firm in defense of the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus? GC 593.1 - GC 593.2
The “rumor mill” was not kind, like Elder Ronan stated; Pastor Bohr should of made a statement before everyone showed concern in love for our church and Elder Vine. If you are a business on transparency it should of been reported ASAP! May God lead Stephen Bohr and may He not listen to other talking heads who may have threatened his ministry through money or reputation etc. God please reform us all. Amen
One last point is that I knew from the beginning of this camp meeting that Satan did not want us to hear because in every video there was an annoying squeaking sound that made it very frustrating to listen too.
Man’s Conscience Is Free God never forces the will or the conscience; but Satan’s constant resort-to gain control of those whom he cannot otherwise seduce-is compulsion by cruelty. Through fear or force he endeavors to rule the conscience and to secure homage to himself. To accomplish this, he works through both religious and secular authorities, moving them to the enforcement of human laws in defiance of the law of God. DD 35.1
Leaders should act as wise counselors, not exacting rulers-Sometimes a man who has been placed in responsibility as a leader, gains the idea that he is in a position of supreme authority, and that all of his brethren, before making advance moves, must first come to him for permission to do that which they feel should be done. Such a man is in a dangerous position. He has lost sight of the work of a true leader among God’s people. Instead of acting as a wise counselor, he assumes the prerogatives of an exacting ruler. God is dishonored by every such display of authority and self-exaltation. No man standing in his own strength is ever to be mind and judgment for another man whom the Lord is using in His work. No one is to lay down man-made rules and regulations to govern arbitrarily his fellow laborers who have a living experience in the truth.-Testimonies to Ministers and Gospel Workers, 491. - {PaM 54.3} Received, thank you. God has spoken more for our day than for the former years. Unfortunately there are some who believe otherwise. Saying that EGW can enhance scripture but not define it. Now where have I heard that before? Dennis Show quoted text
Isaiah 56:10,11 His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant, they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber. 11 Yea, they are greedy dogs which never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, everyone for his gain, from his quarter I would like to thank Dr. Conrad Vine for barking for all of us dogs,who have been muzzled by the higher-ups who are controlling God's church. Hosea 8:4 They have set up kings, but not by me: they have made princes, and I knew it not: of their silver and their gold have they made them idols, that they may be cut off. I want to thank Dr. Conrad Vine for not being a dumb dog and for being a true watchman chosen by God!🙏❤️👊
Hanging out the dirty laundry for everyone to see. The jews had the " truth " yet they crucified Jesus. They were dogmatic about words yet lacked its power.
I believe that we should call sin by its rightful name, that we should cry aloud and spare not, and we should be the Elijah’s of this time. I do not believe we should be making suggestions about how we pay our tithe, which conferences to support, or where to go to church. I follow and watch the ministries of both of these men, and I believe both are acting according to their conscience. But Jesus is the One with the sickle, and He will be the one to reap the harvest. Let the wheat & tares grow…God will handle in due course. Let’s stop doing the job God said He will do, and let’s start doing the job we are called to do. I want to go home brethren. Let’s get ready. 🙏
"All that can be shaken will be shaken."
We have more to fear from within then the world.
I respect and love both pastors. They are sincere children of God and have devoted their lives to serving God. The apostles also had disagreements, but God used them all. This incident tells us that we should pray for our beloved pastors whom the devil wants to destroy to harm God's work on earth. We don't pray enough for our pastors who are most attacked by the devil.
Amen. Thank you so much. 🙏🏻🥲
Thank you so much for this interview, it's a real blessing to know that we are not alone in this hour of need. May truth prevail; Lord bless those that are standing up and sharing truth no matter the consequences.
Thank you so much Elder Andy Roman for stopping by to bless our platform with the truth. I highly appreciate your work. God bless you.
Yes, yes and yes
Conrad is spot on🎉🎉 we support you. You have the backbone to stand up. Praise God from whom all Blessings flow ❤❤
Our GOAL is to be LIKE JESUS. We need to STRIVE for Perfection.
Thank-you Elder Roman. I pray for revival and reformation in my heart first and in the church. Amen
"If the cords are drawn much tighter, if the rules are made much finer, if men continue to bind their fellow laborers closer and closer to the commandments of men; many will be stirred by the Spirit of God to break every shackle and assert their liberty in Christ Jesus." 3 RH 275
Andy Roman, Are you aware that Loma Linda University Medical Center gave religious exemption to their employees from taking that shot, only after the employees threatened to all walk out if they mandated it? My inside source of info came from my chiropractor whose wife is a RN at LLUMC. He and his wife were against the shot, and she was going to have to quit if mandated. He told me all this himself. It was over 3,000 employees that would have quit and LLUMC couldn't take such a loss at one time! No institution could take such a loss all at once. I myself have worked at many hospitals thru the years, including LLUMC so I know what it takes to keep it going. LLUMC kept this quiet.
Great question . I believe that Dr. vine would have an appreate sermon to address the theme "The Church on Fire". The instructions were given to "Trust in the Lord with all our hearts , lean not on our own understanding He will direct out parts" or decisions. I believe that "Fear" was a variable that might have caused a cancellation decision. "What will he say at the upcoming even"?
The mighty shaking has commenced and will go on, and all will be shaken out who are not willing to take a bold and unyielding stand for the truth, and to sacrifice for God and His cause. The angel said: “Think ye that any will be compelled to sacrifice? No, no. It must be a freewill offering. It will take all to buy the field.” I cried to God to spare His people, some of whom were fainting and dying. Then I saw that the judgments of the Almighty were speedily coming, and I begged of the angel to speak in his language to the people. Said he, “All the thunders and lightnings of Mount Sinai would not move those who will not be moved by the plain truths of the word of God, neither would an angel’s message awake them.” CET 107.3
Bohr took one snippet of a statement from Vine and it changed the entire context of what Vine said....this snippet became a big deal because SUS made it a big deal by pulling Vine.
The denomination/corporation is in apostasy, and the Lord will deal with them terribly if they continue to push back against the truth. But the church is NOT the denomination, the church is alive and well as a spiritual body.
Amen - this is encouraging 🙏
Now the Michigan conference is piling on.
Amen praise God!
Amen
Jesus said He came to bring division not unity. He will continue to divide according to His plan for church purification.
Good point
Not only had the temple been profaned, but the offerings had been misapplied. This tended to discourage the liberality of the people. They lost their zeal and fervor in the cause of God, and were reluctant to pay their tithes. The treasuries of the Lord's house were but poorly supplied; and the singers and others employed in the temple service not receiving a sufficient support, many left the work of God to labor elsewhere for the maintenance of their families. Nehemiah promptly corrected these abuses. He gathered together those who had forsaken the service of the house of God, and caused the tithes and offerings to be restored. Faithful men were appointed to take charge of the means raised, confidence was restored, and all Judah brought their tithes to the treasuries of the Lord. ST January 17, 1884, par. 4
Why aren’t the conference pastors speaking up for Jesus and standing up for Pastor Conrad vine???
God is exposing the lack of faith our leaders and people in the church have... praise God we can turn and repent, overcome thru Jesus, this is nothing...
Leadership has explained, in a way, why they don't believe that they can publicly repent.
Multiple times they've made reference to legal representatives. This demonstrates fear of liabilities towards potentially millions of member victims.
While the government offered certain groups immunity, these administrators don't share that luxury. Nether does the church if exposed to litigation brought about by accepting responsibility
Vine addressed that really.. setting up a fund for victims and families
@@comonsenseisdead bless your heart. If it was your husband or wife that died after they took the clot shot, like my friend or aunt did, would you be happy with a thousand dollars? Bcuz let's do the math scoot. 1 million people filling for serious injury regardless of financial, medical, or death, would cost the church 1 billion in claims. 10,000 each = bankruptcy
tested.
Those who endeavor to obey all the commandments of God will be opposed and derided. They can stand only in God. In order to endure the trial before them, they must understand the will of God as revealed in His word; they can honor Him only as they have a right conception of His character, government, and purposes, and act in accordance with them. None but those who have fortified the mind with the truths of the Bible will stand through the last great conflict. To every soul will come the searching test: Shall I obey God rather than men? The decisive hour is even now at hand. Are our feet planted on the rock of God's immutable word? Are we prepared to stand firm in defense of the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus? GC 593.1 - GC 593.2
AMEN
Don't play with the conference's money.
The “rumor mill” was not kind, like Elder Ronan stated; Pastor Bohr should of made a statement before everyone showed concern in love for our church and Elder Vine.
If you are a business on transparency it should of been reported ASAP!
May God lead Stephen Bohr and may He not listen to other talking heads who may have threatened his ministry through money or reputation etc.
God please reform us all. Amen
One last point is that I knew from the beginning of this camp meeting that Satan did not want us to hear because in every video there was an annoying squeaking sound that made it very frustrating to listen too.
Man’s Conscience Is Free
God never forces the will or the conscience; but Satan’s constant resort-to gain control of those whom he cannot otherwise seduce-is compulsion by cruelty. Through fear or force he endeavors to rule the conscience and to secure homage to himself. To accomplish this, he works through both religious and secular authorities, moving them to the enforcement of human laws in defiance of the law of God. DD 35.1
Leaders should act as wise counselors, not exacting rulers-Sometimes a man who has been placed in responsibility as a leader, gains the idea that he is in a position of supreme authority, and that all of his brethren, before making advance moves, must first come to him for permission to do that which they feel should be done. Such a man is in a dangerous position. He has lost sight of the work of a true leader among God’s people. Instead of acting as a wise counselor, he assumes the prerogatives of an exacting ruler. God is dishonored by every such display of authority and self-exaltation. No man standing in his own strength is ever to be mind and judgment for another man whom the Lord is using in His work. No one is to lay down man-made rules and regulations to govern arbitrarily his fellow laborers who have a living experience in the truth.-Testimonies to Ministers and Gospel Workers, 491. - {PaM 54.3}
Received, thank you. God has spoken more for our day than for the former years. Unfortunately there are some who believe otherwise. Saying that EGW can enhance scripture but not define it. Now where have I heard that before?
Dennis
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Wise Counselors are not given wisdom from Men, it's from God himself
Isaiah 56:10,11 His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant, they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber. 11 Yea, they are greedy dogs which never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, everyone for his gain, from his quarter I would like to thank Dr. Conrad Vine for barking for all of us dogs,who have been muzzled by the higher-ups who are controlling God's church. Hosea 8:4 They have set up kings, but not by me: they have made princes, and I knew it not: of their silver and their gold have they made them idols, that they may be cut off. I want to thank Dr. Conrad Vine for not being a dumb dog and for being a true watchman chosen by God!🙏❤️👊
Hanging out the dirty laundry for everyone to see. The jews had the " truth " yet they crucified Jesus. They were dogmatic about words yet lacked its power.
you are missing a major point - it was the challenge to the organization. Like it or not the challenge was divisive.
With good reason.
I believe that we should call sin by its rightful name, that we should cry aloud and spare not, and we should be the Elijah’s of this time.
I do not believe we should be making suggestions about how we pay our tithe, which conferences to support, or where to go to church.
I follow and watch the ministries of both of these men, and I believe both are acting according to their conscience. But Jesus is the One with the sickle, and He will be the one to reap the harvest.
Let the wheat & tares grow…God will handle in due course. Let’s stop doing the job God said He will do, and let’s start doing the job we are called to do. I want to go home brethren. Let’s get ready. 🙏
Disagree with SUM
amen