BFV did suppressors PERFECTLY. They lowered the audio of the gun (duh) but the audio without a suppressor was so meaty and well designed that it made a tangible difference. And then the added utility was that the enemy would no longer get directional damage indicators when you use a suppressed weapon. That was such a great trade-off IMO and it made the suppressors really useful while not making them a necessity
Same for BF1 man... The Silenced 1911 is an amazing stealth tool. Silencers perform the same function, with other stealth perks on the sniping classes it makes you feel like you can do Gun-Foo.
Yeah, I thought the way they did suppressors was great, and they were very useful, but usually didn’t have the entire team with them. Made them more unique IMO.
This game will not have the comeback as BF4 did, it has many core issues that cannot be fixed (bugs would be fixed). It will end like BF Hardline sorry fan boys. I will stick to BFV and BF4
@@denizbeytekin9853 youre sticking to battlefield still, which is massively inferior to other games in its genre like squad, hell let loose, and rising storm 2, youre the fanboy
Also maps are too big, increasing map sizes basically meant replacing what would’ve been more areas of map to just giant open spaces that vehicle players can role you on, the fights you do have against other infantry on these open spaces which are the majority of the map are just the most unmemorable engagements you’ll ever have. If you want to enjoy yourself as infantry in some of the maps you just have to stay in a few certain areas the entire game.
The insane method of fixing this is by increasing the player count up to 256 or 512 per game, Its crazy but if they nail serverside optimization just right it would be spectacular
I'm sorry, but I don't want my new content and long as the game itself isn't fixed in most ways. It just will add more problems. There's enough content for a release too.
november 30th patch will contain bug fixes and quality of life features december 7th will be the "content" where we will get features which didnt make it on launch, I think we will get content when the game gets fixed.
I started playing bf 1942 when i was 16 years old in 2002, i loved the feeling, music, voices and the atmoshphere that gave me. Bf 1-2-3-4 were great too. But i didn't feel any of these things when i started playing bf V and bf 2042, i think they lost the magic, which is very sad...
I think they made the 3rd person animations so you could “see the new skin you just purchased” because 2042 has specialist skins they wanted players to see their new cosmetics because they couldn’t in normal gameplay. Just a hunch
"When something else worse came out, they appreciate what they hated before" -literally everyone when a new thing is way worse than what they hated before
Well duh, it's basic human nature. Remember how everyone thought the Star Wars prequels where the worst Star Wars could get? Then the sequels came out and everyone was praising the prequels lmao.
That's because it is a downgrade! I just think people decided to hate BFV from start, and also people don't know what they got until it is gone. I played through the whole life cycle, through the issues, and supported it cause I actually loved the core gameplay but sadly they pulled the plug way too early...
You think they don't know about the problems in this game? Dice nor EA give a shit. The objective is $$$. If this game doesn't make $$$ they will can it like they did for bfv and have dice start making a free to play battle royale.
@@theking5116 Of course the objective is to make money, you think their thing run for free. They do care, the was patch note or two already. Fixing bugs and clitxhes dosn't happen in a snap of a finger.
They are releasing a patch today, and another next week, and another in the coming weeks. Have faith, these guys have brought us one of the best franchises in history they will make this one good aswell
Unfortunately, many aspects of this game are not really fixable. Bugs can be fixed just fine, but there are some core issues that can’t be. Examples include: Empty Maps - lots of running for little reward (basically maps are too big) Specialists - They’re worse than classes (opinionated, but most seem to agree) Destruction - barely any destruction (they could maybe fix this, but it’d be hard) Gunplay - kinda sucks (again, slim chance, but it could be fixed) Atmosphere - Not good (doesn’t feel like a real war, the specialist voice lines definitely don’t help.) The past 2 games had an amazing atmosphere, how’d they mess that up? The biggest drawbacks are the 2 most unfixable things, the maps and the specialists (for me). The only way to fix the maps is to add new ones, and they spent so much time working on and hyping up the specialists that there’s no way they can go back now. I’m sure the next game will even be advertised like “a return to the classic experience fans love”. Specialists were just a cash grab as a way for Dice and EA to make more money.
It's less than half a game. The development needed to put it back on track would require more than twice the work than they put into making the game already. So it's never going to happen because after games are released, studios move on to the next project with a small team left behind to support the game. So all games are working with a skeleton crew of developers after release, with no way to suddenly get full development going again, because that costs tens of millions of dollars. They'll patch up what they can, but the game will ultimately be compromised no matter what. Specialists won't go away. Destruction won't be added. Empty maps would be impossible to address, without effectively limiting the play area. Part of the reason for large play areas is as a buffer zone for vehicle battle and to allow for smaller isolated engagements, where 2 small groups can battle it out and one gets to push forward without getting mowed down every time as soon as the fight is over. So even if they limited play areas, other stuff would go out of balance to the point where it's just a mosh pit of spawn die respawn. No one signed up for an early access game that might be OK a year down the line. It's clear the developers lied to the publishers about the readiness of the game, and that a lack of a direction / vision was present during development. Considering it doesn't have a campaign and is purely multiplayer, gives them even less of an excuse because it's infinitely cheaper to develop. Making this game should have been easy mode. It's a case where they could have just reskinned BF3 / BF4 and people would have been happier.
Seems to me that they don't really care about what the community wants. ALL games that EA give to us comes with many odd problems, and what is worse, in games such as FIFA that they just sell as a new game (that actually is not) they came with the same problem and bugs. I'm still waiting to see this company gone like many others, the only thing that stops their fall is the franchises.
Maps and specialists are something that can't be fixed. Maps maybe over the next 12 months. But having these shit maps on rotation permanently with disbanding lobbies is not great.
I agreed in many aspects, but when its about atmosphere, bfv had a bad one IMO. the clothes, voice lines, people just surfing all the time sucks. Thats why when the expansion iwo jima appear was the best time to bfv... then they clusterfuck the TTK and kill the game
Those “only in bf” moments happen in so many other large scale games now it’s no longer a unique selling point. They need to focus on making the games GOOD then allow for space for crazy things to happen. Don’t make the entire game based around it while neglecting everything else
I honestly wished you mentioned the specialist system and the deletion of the class system in main game 2042, one of the biggest gameplay issues is that they ripped out what made Battlefield Battlefield and are still forcing it just because of sheer greed.
Generic game dev here: no amount of testing can simulate the actual load on servers from a game like this, or what weird and wonderful things occur when all the switches are flipped on. I work on small scale games, and quite frankly the fact that games with this level of multiplayer gameplay can launch in a state as 'good' as this genuinely amazes me.
@YTPerma Ban to be clear I'm not talking about features, mainly server performance. I agree there are a number of features missing that should definitely have been there on release.
That clip though with the guy pumping bullets with the pp-29 into the other guy had nothing to do with bloom btw, you can clearly see the bullets are hitting due to the blood splatter. That was either a hitreg issue or a connection issue, seeing as the pp-29 is actually the only gun in the game without any bloom. That of course doesn’t negate your point, I just wanted to point it out.
What even is bloom? Random bullet deviation? Personally I haven't noticed anything like that going from bfv to this game compared to if I fire up bf 1 and none of the shots are going where I'm aiming.
@@fjjwfp7819 lol try the DM7, the Bloom is soooooo fucking noticeable. Try it close quarter and you’d think there’s a glitch or something. It’s awful, idk why my friend is defending it like he’s Kyle Rittenhouse’s lawyer…
@@fjjwfp7819 Basically, the longer you fire the more spread your bullets will have. This has existed in all Battlefield games but has been either bugged or turned to the extreme in 2042, especially for the assault rifles. Result: hitting anything at range with an assault rifle is now really difficult.
I don’t understand why people complain that the pp-29 has no recoil and huge range when the pp-2000 in bf4 also had no recoil and huge range. Hell they even have similar names.
@@fjjwfp7819 bloom is spread. Not sure why we’re not just calling it spread like we always have. Basically the longer you hold the trigger down the more spread you get, making your shots less accurate. It’s always been in battlefield. That’s why burst firing was so effective in BF3/BF4
I don't feel at all like I'm fighting a war; it's more like GTA with military equipment. As a very casual gamer, I really like the stories, teamwork, camaraderie, and trench warfare of BF1.
@@contrapasso1539 I really don't get how. all the problems were openly talked about by the entire community. it's not his responsibility to tell you not to pre-order or buy on release. especially when no BF game has came out finished in years
@@luigiwoo4469 jack didn't say anything bad until a week after release because he didn't wanna affect sales n get put on dice/EA's shit list so yes he is a shill and has been for years
One of the worst things for me is the audio balancing, and I'm glad you brought that up. I'm a soundwhore, I have been since probably the BF4 days. The amount of times I've heard footsteps and whipped around only to put 5 bullets into a teammate before I realize it's not an enemy is insane. This is made even worse by the difficulties in visually telling the difference between enemies and teammates. The number of times an enemy has made absolutely no noise coming up a ladder or zipline, and destroyed me because of it is ridiculous. It's one of my biggest non-bug related complaints but not many people seem to bring it up.
I really have to agree with the footsteps. In bf5 yeah the footsteps were good, they were balanced. 2042 footsteps suck so much, you hear so many different footsteps and you don't know who's who. AND if you're in a building that has a second story (for example) you have no clue where the enemy is
14:03 Suppressors in general (imo) need to be a little less binary. They're usually a must-have or powerful attachment because you either appear on the map or don't. Ideally they'd drastically reduce the range at which you can be detected, which is a little more true-to-life. As an example it obviously won't hide you if you're firing from the next room but would keep you hidden firing from down the street.
I wish they’d kept the class system and had the separate new characters that you could customise the way you want. Controls are clunky too. The scoreboard missing blows
Kinda like ghost recon where you make your own character. And can you explain why everyone wants a scoreboard to me? Why would anyone want to check their k/d in a battlefield game? I never even used scoreboard in past games. (Probably because I was always near the bottom)
It's like they tried to simplify the process of getting into a match, like in COD. Do they not realize that us battlefield players like battlefield because it's more customizable and complex than COD? I wish they would have kept BFV and set it in the year 2042, with those vehicles and weapons. The movement was great, the aiming was smooth, and everything worked. The graphics in bfv we're better in my opinion too and the destruction was way better
Problems on top of problems and I’m still having a blast!! I think the choppers seem weaker than past BF games and I swear I read they’re getting a nerf. I hope that’s not the case
@@Nan01987 true, but he also has a point. Lots of people are asking reviewers or BF TH-camrs if 2042 is a good a game. Instead of giving a simple yes or no answer, they say it’s fun.
@@tanner5809 Saying if a game is good or bad in entirely subjective though. I consider Witcher 3 to be a good game, but I don't consider it fun. I consider Cyberpunk 2077 to be a pile of garbage, yet I still had fun with it. I consider Battlefield 2042 to be a mediocre game, but it is super fun. Why the hell do people care what someone else thinks of the game? Just... Buy it if you like it?
You described my experience perfectly when talking about gameplay/gunplay. I was a freaking pro player in BFV compared to how I play with these controls on 2042
Thank you for speaking up! Its important, cause the big battlefield influencers are the most heard voices from the community. Id wish Jackfrags, Westie, and to some extent Levelcap would be more critical ^^
The game itself is better then previous but lacks content that will come with season pass and dlc, to many hovercrafts they need to be nerfed they should flatten a player not kill them
I personally feel the that progression system for the game feels a bit slow, I don't like skins are behind levels not challenges or something, and there's to many vehicles allowed at once. That's just a few other things that I personally am not a fan of
I’m used to it now. EA and dice have released game in this state since BF4. I am pissed that they released it this way with how much time they had. They had everything they needed and it still released this way. It’s just infuriating
I tired Portal on EA play and got bored quickly. It’s a buggy mess with performance issues with no content. It feels at least 6 months away from a proper release. If I paid money for to get this early I’d be pissed. Too many creators are just not being honest about the bugs and lack of content.
What I (and im sure im not the only one) dreamt about was a BF4 with BFV mechanics (recoil, movement, etc.). But no, instead we got Battlefield : Legends with Hardline like recoil
Those two shills are clowns now. Sickens me to see how many people defend this regressed bug filled game. The standards people allow when it comes to this anti consumer unfinished game releases astounds me.
Honestly if you watched Jack's live stream on day one of game release he legit calls out the bugs and how bad they are and says Dice needs to fix it asap. The only shills I see are you sheep.. do your research before you talk shit about others
@@isaiahgovea2319 But he doesn't say anything negative about THE CORE GAME ITSELF. Any veteran of battlefield straight knows this game is an abomination and a slap to the face to them. They gutted the formula that made battlefield and as a result you have call of duty with vehicles. I can tell you aren't a veteran of the series because if you were you'd know how much this pisses long time fans off.
@@user-lr6hw4dq4t no he doesn’t, jack is EA’s private shill just like Westie, he’s a shell of what he once was just like westie. They’re both bending over for an EA paycheck. If he cared about his fans he’d tell them to forget 2042 ever existed and to not buy it ever as it’s not the battlefield we know in love.
No one talks about the last gen versions of this game even though a lot of people still can't get their hands on a ps5 or xbox series. I would love to see you cover it, it's really bad and I hope they don't abandon it and actually fix it.
For me the only big issue was not being able to deploy in breakthrough but that already got fixed. Everything else to me is either minor or just straight up funny. I haven’t crashed and I’m playing on a very old PS4. All in all I’m loving the game, it’s loads of fun
actually what i have heard is that due to reduced map size PS4 matches are better than PS5 matches coz in ps5 all you do is run around most of the time
I’ve been trying so hard to just enjoy this game, but they made it very hard to. It feels like a part time job when playing this game. They give you every reason and some to just delete it.
There are definitely bandwagons. But I for one regard myself as fairly objective, at least, and I cannot see Battlefield in this game from what I have watched... Looks like Warzone combined with some generic shooter. Think of the features added in the last decade and then see if they are in the game. So I can grapple like Spiderman but I can't lean past a corner? WTF?
Virgin tank: cant kill a tank without dropping to 1hp Chad AA with anti tank missiles and 57mm cannon: evaporates anything on land without breaking a sweat
we just have remember that most battlefield games had a rough start and then turned out to be something better, i hope to see this with this game because i see a huge amount of potential. love the video btw
Yeah a few funny bugs in BF4 versus this shit. You must have a horrible memory because with the bugs the older games were innovative and fun day 1. 2042 looks like the quality went backwards, lack of content, horrible map design, stupid lack of weapon content and customization. I mean you expect people coming from MW’s gunsmith to except this shit?
Ah yes ladies and gentlemen, we have to excuse them for releasing a shitty bugged game, because they already have done it 3 times before, so it's okay this time. Game is shit and deserves every negative review it has. If I wanted game that gets better after updates I'd play Rust or other early access game that advertises as such. Gaming comunnity is at all time low to even allow such bullshit from AAA company, that has more than 10 games in this franchise.
TH-cam game channels: "Yes! Battlefield launch wasn't smooth! That's about a month of easy content laid out!" I'm enjoying the game as the bugs have been addressed and will be patched soon. I feel like everybody is beating a dead donkey at this point - we get it.
Accurate. But also, Battlefield players can see all the stuff they left out of the game. Glitches and bugs are fixable, core game design is not gonna change.
@@Nan01987 i hear so many people on pc complaining about the servers and the optimisation of the game. High end hardware gets xou like 60 frames. This is not the smoothest launch scince bf4. Bf1 was better in terms of performance and optimisation
"Soon" hahaha yes sounds like support bf5..."end of support is soon" Money now - but game for you...soon maybe haha. Nice New type of game - credit game lol
Man I got pissed, last year they showed a snippet of a building collapsing and 50 people running away, now you can only destroy 2 walls per map basically
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Not a chance. That would be too deep a change, you'd have to adjust/rewrite too much. IMNSHO.
The 74% negative reviews really speaks for itself. I refunded, and so did everyone I know. I don’t care if they make the game “better” I’m not supporting a game that is compete dogshit at launch. Because this game is dogshit. If anyone enjoys it, I applaud them come and keep enjoying it. But 3/4 of the people who played the game don’t like it, that does mean something. There’s way to many features that are missing that should’ve been in the game at launch. A bunch of features that are gone are features from the last fucking games! 22 guns? What the fuck battlefield, the new cod has 38. 3 pistols. 2 damn launchers. The launchers in the game aren’t even strong enough. Bullets don’t even work properly. Every single gun has horrible bloom that causes bullets to not come out straight at all. There’s 1 smg that doesn’t have this issue. It makes aiming really bad. No scope zeroing. No thermal optics. The fact that the hovercraft is a light vehicle and cannot be damage by .50cals or miniguns. This game really doesn’t deserve another chance. How are people gonna allow companies to fuck them in the ass like this? As mentioned above, I refunded and so did everybody I know. Really just don’t feel like giving a shit company my money for taking a shit on a plate and calling it a game. Maybe if this had happened in the past when it wasn’t so common I’d have a differing opinion but not anymore, it happens to much nowadays. In conclusion, this game is complete dogshit. I’m actually less disappointed in COD. I would be more likely to recommend vanguard(which is a very bland not good game)over this. This game needed another year at the least.
This game definitely doesn’t feel like a battlefield game, which can make a lot of people upset. But, to the people that aren’t looking for an authentic battlefield experience and just looking for a fun game, this game is a blast. I’m relatively jew the the bf series, with battlefield 1 being my first battlefield game in 2019. I personally don’t care about branding, and just like looking for fun games.
@@parkerfox461 it feels like cod even tho some say it doesn’t. Battlefields movement was never jumpy and fast it had a heavy movement, hard to explain but the movement really throws it off for me.
Am I the only one who think that hitboxes sucks ass? I mean i loved to snipe in bf 3, 4, 1, 5 but in this game its almost impossible for me. I dont know what could change but it feels different…
I'm having fun with this game in general but what bother me the most, despite everything you said in the video, are the vehicles... I feel like they are too many and they are too strong, it's like the infantry players are there just to be killed by the vehicle players. The large areas on the maps don't help too. Also today I was PLAYING ALONE WITH BOTS and I was LAGGING AS HELL !?? High ping and everything though I was playing alone with bots ?! That's not acceptable
The game is fun since the beta atleast for me and the server problems are normal. Even sutff like google could have such problems when they were the devs. Btw if i remember correct the servers are actually hosted by amazon now instead of ea themselves. Which can lead into some problems also u cant test servers that much before a public launch. Because in a dev, beta or alpha state there are not that much ppl to completly srtress test the servers. Also web or server development is pretty hard i would say based on my own knowledge. Also i love your vids
The scoreboard is annoying as shit as well as no game chat at least with your squad. It’s almost unplayable with my friends because I have Xbox and they have PlayStation. A lot of other things you mentioned are very annoying as well
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BFV did suppressors PERFECTLY. They lowered the audio of the gun (duh) but the audio without a suppressor was so meaty and well designed that it made a tangible difference. And then the added utility was that the enemy would no longer get directional damage indicators when you use a suppressed weapon. That was such a great trade-off IMO and it made the suppressors really useful while not making them a necessity
Yeah and I liked it that there where just a few guns for that
Same for BF1 man... The Silenced 1911 is an amazing stealth tool. Silencers perform the same function, with other stealth perks on the sniping classes it makes you feel like you can do Gun-Foo.
Yeah, I thought the way they did suppressors was great, and they were very useful, but usually didn’t have the entire team with them. Made them more unique IMO.
I forgot about that
I dont know why bfv was so hated It has plenty of guns, vehicles ,better gunplay than bf1 and was historically accurate
Battlefield 2042 having a somewhat Bad Launch is basically another "Only in Battlefield" moment.
This game will not have the comeback as BF4 did, it has many core issues that cannot be fixed (bugs would be fixed). It will end like BF Hardline sorry fan boys. I will stick to BFV and BF4
Bf4 was a big pile of shit but it tuened put to be a good fuckin game :)
"Somewhat bad launch" LMAO, the cope is hard...
@@darylobey8867 yea, but bf4 had the basics of battlefield at launch. Have a feeling certain design choices wont be patched in 2042
@@denizbeytekin9853 youre sticking to battlefield still, which is massively inferior to other games in its genre like squad, hell let loose, and rising storm 2, youre the fanboy
Also maps are too big, increasing map sizes basically meant replacing what would’ve been more areas of map to just giant open spaces that vehicle players can role you on, the fights you do have against other infantry on these open spaces which are the majority of the map are just the most unmemorable engagements you’ll ever have. If you want to enjoy yourself as infantry in some of the maps you just have to stay in a few certain areas the entire game.
They are too small on old consoles. Orbital on old gen has way to much air traffic for it
They are i actually went back to the last gen version its flows much better
The insane method of fixing this is by increasing the player count up to 256 or 512 per game, Its crazy but if they nail serverside optimization just right it would be spectacular
You obviously have played any OG Battlefield titles.
@@FurBurger151 well, some people just enjoy Locker for its chaos then anything else
Players: “We want free live service!”
Dice: “OK, we’ll give you half a game now, and the other half over the next year.”
The 2022 is close
Literally nobody wants a "free live service" in a game that already costs $60-$70 and has less content that its predecessors
Nobody said " We want free live service " , just a decent game.
You'll never get that other half.
More like after 2 years they just delayed season 1 till summer. Glad I never bought the game.
Battlefield fans talking about how the last game was actually an underrated masterpiece
The endless cycle of fan communities, new installment of franchise sucks until another installment comes out.
People hate change. Get used to that change. Then hate the new change saying the old way was better.
same thing is gonna happen with 2042 in a few years
Not me Bf5 is great and Bf1 is ass there I said it
Actually battlefield 5 after the pacific update became one of my favorite bf games
In my opinion DICE and EA have no excuses for this game. It's completely broken and has way too many design issues
Definitely needs more content. A big new patch is said to be dropping soon so maybe we will get some more content.
I'm sorry, but I don't want my new content and long as the game itself isn't fixed in most ways. It just will add more problems. There's enough content for a release too.
They've said a stats page is coming, tweaks for spread, fixed aim assist etc
november 30th patch will contain bug fixes and quality of life features
december 7th will be the "content" where we will get features which didnt make it on launch, I think we will get content when the game gets fixed.
It’s probably going to be like bf5 where every content drop was delayed to the point where we never even got the full live service.
I guess dev won't put any content out until Jan update, now they have to focus on bug fixing and quality of life improvement.
I started playing bf 1942 when i was 16 years old in 2002, i loved the feeling, music, voices and the atmoshphere that gave me. Bf 1-2-3-4 were great too. But i didn't feel any of these things when i started playing bf V and bf 2042, i think they lost the magic, which is very sad...
This 3rd person melee takedowns are probably the worst thing I've seen in a BF game for years. Looks so crappy
I know.. How could they ditch the awesome system they implemented in BF1 and BFV to this garbage ?
@@Davidov918 they clearly tried to Copy Warzone
I think they made the 3rd person animations so you could “see the new skin you just purchased” because 2042 has specialist skins they wanted players to see their new cosmetics because they couldn’t in normal gameplay. Just a hunch
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Like we don't see them enough when waiting to be revived, before after the game and in the menu...
@@Bingus1507 Yep Basic EA Microttansactions rule
"When something else worse came out, they appreciate what they hated before"
-literally everyone when a new thing is way worse than what they hated before
🤣🤣True
worse is still worse, exept this time DICE can't fix it
Well duh, it's basic human nature. Remember how everyone thought the Star Wars prequels where the worst Star Wars could get? Then the sequels came out and everyone was praising the prequels lmao.
After DICE took over on Battlefield, it became a disaster!! F DICE!!
That's because it is a downgrade! I just think people decided to hate BFV from start, and also people don't know what they got until it is gone.
I played through the whole life cycle, through the issues, and supported it cause I actually loved the core gameplay but sadly they pulled the plug way too early...
You need to post this on Twitter and tag DICE. You definitely mentioned everything everyone is complaining about. This game has so much potential
I think they know, they just to fix the code and publish the patch.
a released game shouldnt have so much potential lol
You think they don't know about the problems in this game? Dice nor EA give a shit. The objective is $$$. If this game doesn't make $$$ they will can it like they did for bfv and have dice start making a free to play battle royale.
@@theking5116 Of course the objective is to make money, you think their thing run for free. They do care, the was patch note or two already. Fixing bugs and clitxhes dosn't happen in a snap of a finger.
They are releasing a patch today, and another next week, and another in the coming weeks. Have faith, these guys have brought us one of the best franchises in history they will make this one good aswell
Unfortunately, many aspects of this game are not really fixable. Bugs can be fixed just fine, but there are some core issues that can’t be. Examples include:
Empty Maps - lots of running for little reward (basically maps are too big)
Specialists - They’re worse than classes (opinionated, but most seem to agree)
Destruction - barely any destruction (they could maybe fix this, but it’d be hard)
Gunplay - kinda sucks (again, slim chance, but it could be fixed)
Atmosphere - Not good (doesn’t feel like a real war, the specialist voice lines definitely don’t help.) The past 2 games had an amazing atmosphere, how’d they mess that up?
The biggest drawbacks are the 2 most unfixable things, the maps and the specialists (for me). The only way to fix the maps is to add new ones, and they spent so much time working on and hyping up the specialists that there’s no way they can go back now. I’m sure the next game will even be advertised like “a return to the classic experience fans love”. Specialists were just a cash grab as a way for Dice and EA to make more money.
It's less than half a game. The development needed to put it back on track would require more than twice the work than they put into making the game already. So it's never going to happen because after games are released, studios move on to the next project with a small team left behind to support the game. So all games are working with a skeleton crew of developers after release, with no way to suddenly get full development going again, because that costs tens of millions of dollars. They'll patch up what they can, but the game will ultimately be compromised no matter what. Specialists won't go away. Destruction won't be added. Empty maps would be impossible to address, without effectively limiting the play area. Part of the reason for large play areas is as a buffer zone for vehicle battle and to allow for smaller isolated engagements, where 2 small groups can battle it out and one gets to push forward without getting mowed down every time as soon as the fight is over. So even if they limited play areas, other stuff would go out of balance to the point where it's just a mosh pit of spawn die respawn. No one signed up for an early access game that might be OK a year down the line. It's clear the developers lied to the publishers about the readiness of the game, and that a lack of a direction / vision was present during development. Considering it doesn't have a campaign and is purely multiplayer, gives them even less of an excuse because it's infinitely cheaper to develop. Making this game should have been easy mode. It's a case where they could have just reskinned BF3 / BF4 and people would have been happier.
Seems to me that they don't really care about what the community wants. ALL games that EA give to us comes with many odd problems, and what is worse, in games such as FIFA that they just sell as a new game (that actually is not) they came with the same problem and bugs. I'm still waiting to see this company gone like many others, the only thing that stops their fall is the franchises.
Maps and specialists are something that can't be fixed. Maps maybe over the next 12 months. But having these shit maps on rotation permanently with disbanding lobbies is not great.
I agreed in many aspects, but when its about atmosphere, bfv had a bad one IMO. the clothes, voice lines, people just surfing all the time sucks. Thats why when the expansion iwo jima appear was the best time to bfv... then they clusterfuck the TTK and kill the game
Dice will never remove specialists i get that. But at least casual gadgets "rpg, sensor etc." should be class based.
This game has such a uniqueness of many “Only In Battlefield” moments and lives up to that. This game’s potential is so high if they do a Bf4 on it…
Those “only in bf” moments happen in so many other large scale games now it’s no longer a unique selling point. They need to focus on making the games GOOD then allow for space for crazy things to happen. Don’t make the entire game based around it while neglecting everything else
@@Bennostk that’s exactly what I think. Every battlefield is fun as crap and always have a routine with launch issues, some worse than others
@@Bennostk agreed, no battlefield has been perfect or good on launch. No games have. People are expecting this game to be at its peak on day one
Yeah it’s sad and I’m very disappointed
@@lustrazor44 What games? not warzone not halo maybe in that shitty knock of bf i think it was called ww3 what are you on about?
I honestly wished you mentioned the specialist system and the deletion of the class system in main game 2042, one of the biggest gameplay issues is that they ripped out what made Battlefield Battlefield and are still forcing it just because of sheer greed.
There's already tons of people doing that. What is he gonna say about them that we haven't already heard from everyone else?
@@kryvex4996 Okay, homework assignment: remove everything from this video that others have already said. There won't be a much left.
Generic game dev here: no amount of testing can simulate the actual load on servers from a game like this, or what weird and wonderful things occur when all the switches are flipped on. I work on small scale games, and quite frankly the fact that games with this level of multiplayer gameplay can launch in a state as 'good' as this genuinely amazes me.
That's really interesting to hear, thanks for sharing 👍🏼
@YTPerma Ban to be clear I'm not talking about features, mainly server performance.
I agree there are a number of features missing that should definitely have been there on release.
That clip though with the guy pumping bullets with the pp-29 into the other guy had nothing to do with bloom btw, you can clearly see the bullets are hitting due to the blood splatter. That was either a hitreg issue or a connection issue, seeing as the pp-29 is actually the only gun in the game without any bloom.
That of course doesn’t negate your point, I just wanted to point it out.
What even is bloom? Random bullet deviation? Personally I haven't noticed anything like that going from bfv to this game compared to if I fire up bf 1 and none of the shots are going where I'm aiming.
@@fjjwfp7819 lol try the DM7, the Bloom is soooooo fucking noticeable. Try it close quarter and you’d think there’s a glitch or something. It’s awful, idk why my friend is defending it like he’s Kyle Rittenhouse’s lawyer…
@@fjjwfp7819 Basically, the longer you fire the more spread your bullets will have. This has existed in all Battlefield games but has been either bugged or turned to the extreme in 2042, especially for the assault rifles. Result: hitting anything at range with an assault rifle is now really difficult.
I don’t understand why people complain that the pp-29 has no recoil and huge range when the pp-2000 in bf4 also had no recoil and huge range. Hell they even have similar names.
@@fjjwfp7819 bloom is spread. Not sure why we’re not just calling it spread like we always have. Basically the longer you hold the trigger down the more spread you get, making your shots less accurate. It’s always been in battlefield. That’s why burst firing was so effective in BF3/BF4
This Game has potential, but it feels unfinished...
The game feels like a beta where they took content out to save for launch, but unfortunately it’s not the case
So every battlefield/battlefront game at launch
@@Fire_2000 yeah.
@@Fire_2000 why buy at launch then?
@@Fire_2000 not every
I don't feel at all like I'm fighting a war; it's more like GTA with military equipment. As a very casual gamer, I really like the stories, teamwork, camaraderie, and trench warfare of BF1.
I'm glad tbag is being upfront about the current state of jack and westie
actually just stop. this meme is insufferable
Go away you actual bot
@@contrapasso1539 I really don't get how. all the problems were openly talked about by the entire community. it's not his responsibility to tell you not to pre-order or buy on release. especially when no BF game has came out finished in years
@@luigiwoo4469 jack didn't say anything bad until a week after release because he didn't wanna affect sales n get put on dice/EA's shit list so yes he is a shill and has been for years
Are people not allowed to have opinions anymore?
One of the worst things for me is the audio balancing, and I'm glad you brought that up. I'm a soundwhore, I have been since probably the BF4 days. The amount of times I've heard footsteps and whipped around only to put 5 bullets into a teammate before I realize it's not an enemy is insane. This is made even worse by the difficulties in visually telling the difference between enemies and teammates. The number of times an enemy has made absolutely no noise coming up a ladder or zipline, and destroyed me because of it is ridiculous. It's one of my biggest non-bug related complaints but not many people seem to bring it up.
I really have to agree with the footsteps. In bf5 yeah the footsteps were good, they were balanced. 2042 footsteps suck so much, you hear so many different footsteps and you don't know who's who. AND if you're in a building that has a second story (for example) you have no clue where the enemy is
14:03 Suppressors in general (imo) need to be a little less binary. They're usually a must-have or powerful attachment because you either appear on the map or don't. Ideally they'd drastically reduce the range at which you can be detected, which is a little more true-to-life. As an example it obviously won't hide you if you're firing from the next room but would keep you hidden firing from down the street.
I wish they’d kept the class system and had the separate new characters that you could customise the way you want. Controls are clunky too. The scoreboard missing blows
Kinda like ghost recon where you make your own character. And can you explain why everyone wants a scoreboard to me? Why would anyone want to check their k/d in a battlefield game? I never even used scoreboard in past games. (Probably because I was always near the bottom)
@@enchanted25a15 For me it’s just to see what I’ve done/ not done well. Can’t keep score
@@enchanted25a15 Its a good way to see if someone could be cheating, glitching, or just does good in a game. It has its uses outside of k/d
if the3y realllllly wanted to sell skins they could.ov just had class specific skins. but i guess that would be more work
BFV was trash
Regardless of the glitches it is still somehow really fun in my opinion
Same I feel that way
facra
Agreed. It'll age like a fine wine
In 6 months time people will be saying it's the best shooter available
Stop buying trash games, that is all
It's like they tried to simplify the process of getting into a match, like in COD. Do they not realize that us battlefield players like battlefield because it's more customizable and complex than COD? I wish they would have kept BFV and set it in the year 2042, with those vehicles and weapons. The movement was great, the aiming was smooth, and everything worked. The graphics in bfv we're better in my opinion too and the destruction was way better
Problems on top of problems and I’m still having a blast!! I think the choppers seem weaker than past BF games and I swear I read they’re getting a nerf. I hope that’s not the case
Us: is the game good?
Some reviewers: I had fun.
Us: That’s not what we asked you. Fun is subjective.
I want you to go back and read what you just wrote, whether or not something is good or not is also subjective, come on it's common sense.
@@Nan01987 true, but he also has a point. Lots of people are asking reviewers or BF TH-camrs if 2042 is a good a game. Instead of giving a simple yes or no answer, they say it’s fun.
@@tanner5809 Saying if a game is good or bad in entirely subjective though.
I consider Witcher 3 to be a good game, but I don't consider it fun.
I consider Cyberpunk 2077 to be a pile of garbage, yet I still had fun with it.
I consider Battlefield 2042 to be a mediocre game, but it is super fun.
Why the hell do people care what someone else thinks of the game? Just... Buy it if you like it?
Well, I mean yes, ones can still enjoy a shit game
@@Krismantine agreed. Idk why people need someone to say if it’s good or not, I just know that there are a whole bunch of them lol
Weren’t we promised a lot of destructions as well? So far I haven’t seen any
Let's hope this game ends up like battlefield 4, I see a lot of potential in this game but also A LOT of issues, please dice don't mess up
Can’t patch design decisions
Well i really like the game but its true if youre average or bad battflefield will never nbe fun.
It’s not bug or performance issues the reason it will never touch BF4 level it’s the shit poor design decisions by suits at EA.
Scoreboard is really missed
Dont mess it up *more* but yea I agree
scoreboards are in fps games since doom 1 smh dice
You described my experience perfectly when talking about gameplay/gunplay. I was a freaking pro player in BFV compared to how I play with these controls on 2042
Same 50 kills or more in Bf5, but now only like 20 kills in Bf42 :(
There is something wrong with the input in general it's not only controller players. Super inconsistent
BF5 is slowly becoming Star Wars prequels of BF series :D
Its true tho lol
Finally im not only one
Guess that’s the only good thing about 2042 lol
Haha
The air combat is awful. The jets feel so insignificant, I hope they fix it.
Thank you for speaking up! Its important, cause the big battlefield influencers are the most heard voices from the community. Id wish Jackfrags, Westie, and to some extent Levelcap would be more critical ^^
Jack and Westie have made videos recently about this I believe.
The game itself is better then previous but lacks content that will come with season pass and dlc, to many hovercrafts they need to be nerfed they should flatten a player not kill them
I personally feel the that progression system for the game feels a bit slow, I don't like skins are behind levels not challenges or something, and there's to many vehicles allowed at once. That's just a few other things that I personally am not a fan of
BF4 did it far better.
I love this game so much
Garbage
The biggest glitch for me us the sniper scopes changing their zoom when I reload sometimes
I bloody love when you upload, such an exciting feeling 😌
I’m used to it now. EA and dice have released game in this state since BF4. I am pissed that they released it this way with how much time they had. They had everything they needed and it still released this way. It’s just infuriating
That's just EA for ya
@@Nan01987 True that
You guys all are little bitches 😂 expect a brand new game to be flawless 😂 you guys just suck at the game get better first
Funny how Battlefield V turns into a masterpiece after Battlefield 2042 release.
That shows how shit 2042 actually is 😂
Compared to 2042 yes. If 2042 didn’t exist bf5 would still be considered shit
Lmao that aoe2 music is so good
I tired Portal on EA play and got bored quickly. It’s a buggy mess with performance issues with no content.
It feels at least 6 months away from a proper release.
If I paid money for to get this early I’d be pissed.
Too many creators are just not being honest about the bugs and lack of content.
we were soooooo wrong to call that bf5 was the worst launch ever back then and a little thing that i noticed: bf5 isnt that bad compared to bf2042 imo
What I (and im sure im not the only one) dreamt about was a BF4 with BFV mechanics (recoil, movement, etc.). But no, instead we got Battlefield : Legends with Hardline like recoil
me here again asking for historically accurate doors in Bf1 ranked worst to best.
I’m glad TBAG is being upfront about the current state of Jack and Westie.
Those two shills are clowns now. Sickens me to see how many people defend this regressed bug filled game. The standards people allow when it comes to this anti consumer unfinished game releases astounds me.
Honestly if you watched Jack's live stream on day one of game release he legit calls out the bugs and how bad they are and says Dice needs to fix it asap.
The only shills I see are you sheep.. do your research before you talk shit about others
@@isaiahgovea2319 But he doesn't say anything negative about THE CORE GAME ITSELF. Any veteran of battlefield straight knows this game is an abomination and a slap to the face to them. They gutted the formula that made battlefield and as a result you have call of duty with vehicles. I can tell you aren't a veteran of the series because if you were you'd know how much this pisses long time fans off.
@@papabetadine724 you just lack of braincells. Look at latest jackfrags videos, He definitely slam all your accusation.
@@user-lr6hw4dq4t no he doesn’t, jack is EA’s private shill just like Westie, he’s a shell of what he once was just like westie. They’re both bending over for an EA paycheck. If he cared about his fans he’d tell them to forget 2042 ever existed and to not buy it ever as it’s not the battlefield we know in love.
Hadvto put down my pet today, thanks for making me feel better TBAG
No one talks about the last gen versions of this game even though a lot of people still can't get their hands on a ps5 or xbox series. I would love to see you cover it, it's really bad and I hope they don't abandon it and actually fix it.
What about the vehicles that are hard as fook to destroy ? And the wall crawling hoovercrafts...
For me the only big issue was not being able to deploy in breakthrough but that already got fixed. Everything else to me is either minor or just straight up funny. I haven’t crashed and I’m playing on a very old PS4. All in all I’m loving the game, it’s loads of fun
Ya same
actually what i have heard is that due to reduced map size PS4 matches are better than PS5 matches coz in ps5 all you do is run around most of the time
Tbag half tbagging the game, don't blame you, who would tbag a dumpster fire
this is the first battlefield i bought at launch and i saved up for it for weeks
and i really hope they fix it.
They will
you should have waited it out till they completely fixed it
they just made a crucial update today that fixed most of the worst gameplay issues
Cool now rank every bf1 worst to best video from worst to best
I’ve been trying so hard to just enjoy this game, but they made it very hard to. It feels like a part time job when playing this game. They give you every reason and some to just delete it.
There are definitely bandwagons.
But I for one regard myself as fairly objective, at least, and I cannot see Battlefield in this game from what I have watched... Looks like Warzone combined with some generic shooter.
Think of the features added in the last decade and then see if they are in the game.
So I can grapple like Spiderman but I can't lean past a corner? WTF?
Virgin tank: cant kill a tank without dropping to 1hp
Chad AA with anti tank missiles and 57mm cannon: evaporates anything on land without breaking a sweat
I love the game, however, there is a lot of glitches that need fixed
This game actually does have spectating, it’s only available through console
Console like Xbox and PS?
How?
@@Crystlcap no the in-game console, accessed by ~ on pc, it may only be available on PC
a bf game with 2 gamemodes. only max players. i want 64 option, 48, 32 etc. Please
tbags opinion when he is no longer sponsored lmao
@2:20 This is the number one thing I've asked myself about this game
we just have remember that most battlefield games had a rough start and then turned out to be something better, i hope to see this with this game because i see a huge amount of potential. love the video btw
Yeah a few funny bugs in BF4 versus this shit. You must have a horrible memory because with the bugs the older games were innovative and fun day 1. 2042 looks like the quality went backwards, lack of content, horrible map design, stupid lack of weapon content and customization. I mean you expect people coming from MW’s gunsmith to except this shit?
Ah yes ladies and gentlemen, we have to excuse them for releasing a shitty bugged game, because they already have done it 3 times before, so it's okay this time. Game is shit and deserves every negative review it has. If I wanted game that gets better after updates I'd play Rust or other early access game that advertises as such. Gaming comunnity is at all time low to even allow such bullshit from AAA company, that has more than 10 games in this franchise.
I have the exact same thoughts about the game.
I'm so glad you mention the aiming. With all the issues in the game, this is easily the worst. And it doesn't seem like DICE have acknowledged it.
I heard on Twitter that it has to do with Uniform aiming (in settings) apparently by default it gives really scuffed aim so you have to toggle it.
@@VertietRyper I have it toggled on.
According to Levelcaps video about the patch they have acknowledged inconsistent aiming on both PC and console and are working on it.
It needs a campaign
I'm glad tbag is finally being upfront about the current state of the game.
Why not before the standard edition launch day when some of the community had time to refund?
Jfc, now braindead kids are gonna start it here
8:40 you can but its just press it and get put in a random ass squad you can't chose. (it's in the player list btw)
Let's be honest, Portal was DICE's contingency plan.
I hate the new melee kills. awful change, cancerous money making scheme by EA
TH-cam game channels: "Yes! Battlefield launch wasn't smooth! That's about a month of easy content laid out!"
I'm enjoying the game as the bugs have been addressed and will be patched soon. I feel like everybody is beating a dead donkey at this point - we get it.
Some have but also some fail to mention how this has been the Smoothest battlefield launch since 4
Accurate.
But also, Battlefield players can see all the stuff they left out of the game. Glitches and bugs are fixable, core game design is not gonna change.
@@Nan01987 i hear so many people on pc complaining about the servers and the optimisation of the game. High end hardware gets xou like 60 frames. This is not the smoothest launch scince bf4. Bf1 was better in terms of performance and optimisation
"Soon" hahaha yes sounds like support bf5..."end of support is soon"
Money now - but game for you...soon maybe haha. Nice
New type of game - credit game lol
Don’t forget the missing features comparing from bfV and hardline to 2042, speaking of hardline I’m gonna play that superior game now
the most important thing that bf2042 needs to have: Levolution.
Man I got pissed, last year they showed a snippet of a building collapsing and 50 people running away, now you can only destroy 2 walls per map basically
Not a chance. That would be too deep a change, you'd have to adjust/rewrite too much. IMNSHO.
The ppl who trash this game are the BF4 lifers… if it’s not BF4 it’s not good enough… get off your high horse, your shit stinks too
The 74% negative reviews really speaks for itself. I refunded, and so did everyone I know.
I don’t care if they make the game “better” I’m not supporting a game that is compete dogshit at launch. Because this game is dogshit. If anyone enjoys it, I applaud them come and keep enjoying it. But 3/4 of the people who played the game don’t like it, that does mean something.
There’s way to many features that are missing that should’ve been in the game at launch. A bunch of features that are gone are features from the last fucking games!
22 guns? What the fuck battlefield, the new cod has 38. 3 pistols. 2 damn launchers. The launchers in the game aren’t even strong enough. Bullets don’t even work properly. Every single gun has horrible bloom that causes bullets to not come out straight at all. There’s 1 smg that doesn’t have this issue. It makes aiming really bad.
No scope zeroing. No thermal optics.
The fact that the hovercraft is a light vehicle and cannot be damage by .50cals or miniguns.
This game really doesn’t deserve another chance. How are people gonna allow companies to fuck them in the ass like this? As mentioned above, I refunded and so did everybody I know. Really just don’t feel like giving a shit company my money for taking a shit on a plate and calling it a game. Maybe if this had happened in the past when it wasn’t so common I’d have a differing opinion but not anymore, it happens to much nowadays.
In conclusion, this game is complete dogshit. I’m actually less disappointed in COD. I would be more likely to recommend vanguard(which is a very bland not good game)over this. This game needed another year at the least.
battlefield should better make campagin games only, this game looks nowhere near amodern shooter game but a cheap ass simulator with great graphics
This game definitely doesn’t feel like a battlefield game, which can make a lot of people upset. But, to the people that aren’t looking for an authentic battlefield experience and just looking for a fun game, this game is a blast. I’m relatively jew the the bf series, with battlefield 1 being my first battlefield game in 2019. I personally don’t care about branding, and just like looking for fun games.
I think what happened is that DICE/EA hired ex-COD developers and managers. So there’s obvious correlation for BF to feel like COD. Pitifully horrible
I'm not sure how people think movement is a core element in this game
@@parkerfox461 it feels like cod even tho some say it doesn’t. Battlefields movement was never jumpy and fast it had a heavy movement, hard to explain but the movement really throws it off for me.
Unplayable game. Maybe next year
my opinion of this game after 30 hours is basically: Its not perfect, but its also not nearly as bad as many people say it is
Personally I think the maps suck..
BF2042 Worst to best guns when
Am I the only one who think that hitboxes sucks ass? I mean i loved to snipe in bf 3, 4, 1, 5 but in this game its almost impossible for me. I dont know what could change but it feels different…
Can't hit his shots with aim assist off.
PC been telling y'all this since day 1.
I'm having fun with this game in general but what bother me the most, despite everything you said in the video, are the vehicles... I feel like they are too many and they are too strong, it's like the infantry players are there just to be killed by the vehicle players. The large areas on the maps don't help too.
Also today I was PLAYING ALONE WITH BOTS and I was LAGGING AS HELL !?? High ping and everything though I was playing alone with bots ?! That's not acceptable
Battlefield 2042 is like league of legends.
You hate it and you love it at the same time.
rip the dream
The game is fun since the beta atleast for me and the server problems are normal. Even sutff like google could have such problems when they were the devs. Btw if i remember correct the servers are actually hosted by amazon now instead of ea themselves. Which can lead into some problems also u cant test servers that much before a public launch. Because in a dev, beta or alpha state there are not that much ppl to completly srtress test the servers. Also web or server development is pretty hard i would say based on my own knowledge. Also i love your vids
Goede video man alles geadresseerd wat nodig was
Ok…This game looks so old and outdated I mean I’m sorry but WHERE IS THE RECOIL on the guns
Tbh no battlefield game has came out complete
Ive already seen a cheater :(
I think they spent so much of time on developing the game they forgot about gameplay.
The scoreboard is annoying as shit as well as no game chat at least with your squad. It’s almost unplayable with my friends because I have Xbox and they have PlayStation. A lot of other things you mentioned are very annoying as well
Playing on controller in this game is a nightmare.
Tbag i had the input problem too and when i set the look acceleration to zero the problem was solved so try experimenting with the look acceleration
*The likes on this comment is how many dislikes the video should have