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DID THE URO 8HP FILTER KILL THE $4000 TRANSMISSION?
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- DID THE URO 8HP FILTER KILL THE $4000 TRANSMISSION?
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This brought me so much happiness, I’ve been following so closely to this build as I want to use the same turbos and as soon as you lost traction basically instantly I never smiled so big, good job my man!
I had forgotten how the turbos come on. The base map is so fast.
I'm amazed that the product is still on the shelves when it's literally destroying transmissions.
Eventhough the factory pan is the same, i wonder if this one works on a 8hp45. As in the hole in the box the oriing seals on is more shallow on a 45. So it works for some boxes but not others.
@@ZeroTo60Tube that pan is for the first gen 8hp45.
How sure are you @M p
@@ZeroTo60Tube i have an 8hp45 in the garage ill pop the oem pan off and find out with a set of calipers lol. pure told me not to run aftermarket pans on the 8hp70, so they must have already known this.
@@Mp-jw1qg my guess is the hp70 hole is deeper. more concave maybe. The OEM pan is larger no doubt. The URO one should match the OEM pan at the end of the day. But maybe not as much of a problem on the 45 which is what it got tested on maybe?
whoa , ! now i understand why they stuck with the zf8 for the G80 M4. The shifts are smooth , fast and seamless. Thanks, Andrew and Turbo lamik for this pioneering work. We are going to start seeing many zf8 swaps into e90 chassis.
Thanks to everyone that's helped us get to this position!!!
Awesome stuff im so glad the trans is ok, to be fair you made the whole swap look fairly easy, i think there are going to be a lot of ZF8 swaps coming soon!
Man i had high hopes for it. I think its going to deliver.
One heck of journey building this wicked N54. Just glad to be along for the ride! 👍
Hells yea man!!! Good to see it working for you! I just got my N54 back working last month so I know all those feelings.
So happy you found the trans pan problem, and a lesson for everyone! Well done.
you and me both.
Great job with the build! That last pull knowing you probably shouldn't, but do it anyway is so pure lol
Is there any other way?
So awesome to see this thing working!! You're helping the whole community man 😤🤜🏻
I try dude. Thanks for the kind words.
Now this is real content. Real stuff that people like to see. Not the 'we bought another car for the 18th time this month' garbage that a lot of TH-camrs churn out.
So happy for you guys!! And thank you for showing us the ups and downs!
Just a shame that “garbage” seems to get so many views. But holy shit I resonate with you. I dispose a lot of the car content on TH-cam. Mainly due to most of them not knowing how to change oil in thier cars lol
@@ZeroTo60Tube Well my friend, I'm rooting for ya! Regardless of the platform (N54, JDM motors, whatever) I'd really love to see more realistic things like this.
Keep it up folks!
This video went from heartbreak and despair to giddy excitement watching it. Can't wait to see what this car does when you let it rip.
‘When you get in an N54 and it works’ ha, ha love it, so true. So often it’s the smallest thing that can cause such dramas. Well fixed. Terrible product. Your passion is captivating. Loving this build👏🏻
Thanks man, appreciate the kind words
So happy for you mate, awesome work, what a relief that the gearbox seems okay!
It really is!
"Every time you get in an N54 and it works, it makes all the trouble worth it!"
#truth
New viewer as found you via the 8HP content, great work and very informative. Cheers man!
Thanks and welcome
Thats awesome man, very happy everything worked out!! I'm so pumped to get my car out as well and finish my build, although as Im saying this theres still a foot of snow here in Quebec city XD
This car will be a monster!!! Cheers man, can't wait to see more.
Right on!
Brilliant news! glad to see the car appears ok. Thankfully that filter hasn't ruined the gearbox
Oh man I'm so happy this is working Andrew!! Awesome! I love that the whole dash is pulling apart (Not screwed in yet LOL) as you are giving it the juice. LOL. Oh I LOVE IT! I waited for this video in hopes this is how it would turn out. I can't believe the makers of the oil pan are selling that product like that. It really pisses me off! But I digress!! YAY! ANDREW YOU'VE DONE IT!! Now comes the tuning and fun!
Awesome news and glad it all worked out for you. You get to enjoy the fruits of your labour now.
Yes! Thank you!
Pissed myself laughing when the cluster fell forward!!!!
I just had a watch of the time you brought Ohhrly to Dan at Simply Tuning to give it the once over and dyno it. While you were there you showed Dan's latest N54 project which is a E46 M3 with the N54 and a DTC gear box big single turbo etc. But it wasn't quite done. I really hope you will show us Dan's E46 N54 build now that it should be done and we can check out how that one has turned out. Not trying to take away from this build at all but just wanted to tickle that idea after watching that older video! Beside I still miss Ohhrly too. LOL. But can't get enough of this build! You need four channels and more hands LOL.
Unfortunately he ran in to issues with the dct and htg controller. However the car now has a manual.
@@ZeroTo60Tube Oh well not quite the same but I'm always on board for a manual. LOL. It's the N54 in E46 that's most interesting to me. I have both right now but not combined. I always have thought the E46 chassis is the best BMW's ever done (well it's a close one between a few LOL) but in the future that might be an option I could look into. Thank you.
happy to see car back in road awesome 👌 great job bro hard 💪 working God bless always
Firstly, good pick up Charles.
I haven't seen you this excited (@ 17:30min mark) since you first tried MHD. Soooo good man. Awesome work!!!!
I was just thinking about you lmao. What a coincidence that you just uploaded.
Thats what she said.
@@ZeroTo60Tube 😏 Haha yes
Its puts a huge smile on the face seeing this beautiful swap work flawlessly! Congrats brother man! which car did this transmission belong to originally? I may consider this swap on my E92
30 diesel bmw model because 8hp70
Top work Andrew! Well happppy for you buddy! 👌🤟
Why didn't I get an notification from yt😅😅 im happy for the outcome of this! I hope that's not the last 8hp stuff and actually I'd love to see your brother have a drive on cam in it, would love to see his reaction too!😅
I hope so too!
So goood !! Determination and hard work is paying off 👌🏻👌🏻
Yes! Thank you!
I’m so glad it was something just as simple as that, can’t wait to see some more vids of the shifting. Love the 8hp boxes.
I was excited for you man, it's been a long run. And thank you for documenting this through video as this hasn't been done that much and there isn't much data about the swap
It is great to see you have sorted out the issues with the 8HP Andrew. It was a very quick engine run in with only 1 hr of running. Everything appears to be going well with both engine and transmission. Those gear shifts are very fast and should improve your times once the engine has a few more kms on it. Appears traction will be a major issue with that diff ratio.
hahaha, did you want to run your engine in too :P I know this isn't the right way. But hey it is what it is. Everything about the motor build is not the right way.... I am definitely looking forward to playing with it some more. So far at 100kmh in auto the car isnt screaming, i think the diff will be ok. But 3rd is more like what 2nd is like with the 6hp. Somewhere between 2nd and 3rd on the dct car. Should be ok. Super impressed with the shift, that first one in this video, while it was spinning was an eye opener. I didnt feel the shift at all through the seat. It did not unsettle the car at all. Just required a bit more steering angle input.
@@ZeroTo60Tube I plan to run my engine in on a dyno.
Watching you succeed with the ZF8 swap along with the china built motor has made me (and I'm sure everyone else) incredibly happy! Congratulations on the build boys!
Phewww what a relief. Can't believe that sump pan caused so many issues 😱
This journey is so awesome... Looking for N54’s now all the time...
haha, ahhh man, they keep going up in price!!!! get one while they still make sense. Before they turn in to the 2jz supras.
Its quite cool to see that trans working in an n54, considering how many normal 6hp I have seen dead its quite a motivating alternative.
Also, love how hyped you are, thats literally why I love the content here we see all the frustration and hype as if it was us.
Great job man!
Thanks man, yeah, i had very high hopes for the trans setup and think it's going to exceed them.
This was awesome! So glad it’s going well mate, a hell of a lot of effort has gone into this and you’ve shown us all of it! Not a lot of TH-camrs would of put in half the content you have on a build! Well done 😁👍🏻
I really want to show people you can do this stuff yourself. But also show why shops charge what they charge. I am over the moon with Lamik, those guys are legit doing it for the love of what they do.
"I DONT CARE" hahahaha love it!
Congratulations sir! Job well done!
Thank you very much!
I feel like you can see the light at the end of the tunnel. Nice work Andrew!
I think so too!
This is a missile🤗🙈 guys! It was worth every minute of it. You may have lost some weight, but that's part of building such missiles😏. Dutch regards and have an awesome weekend, Nico.
17:15 that moment makes all the bs worth it haha
Awww man so much worry over this. I hope we are over the issues.
This is epic, what a project! Well done 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Well fuggin done!!! The n54 scientist! I run a manual but still this is super interesting and extremely cool. Amazing content as always bro keep up the good work!
My dad used that oil pan on his 2016 550i with shitty results. Car got stuck in certain gears and there was a drivetrain malfunction as well. The filter of the pan rubbed on the internal bolts of the transmission. After reinstalling the OEM pan issue went away and car has driven fine since!
Excellent result and sounds amazing.
Many thanks!
Well done Andrew, you are a pioneer of note...👏👏. I'm really amped to get my install done.
Thanks for the kind words man. I really hope this trans swap is a way to bring the N54s in to modern times with a trans that does everything well. From circuit, to drag, to drift and street drives like a stock auto.
Yes! Was waiting for this video, so good to see it working properly. Time for some boost!!!!
Great to see it driving it, Love the vid.
Thanks 👍
Excellent work. Glad it all worked out.😅
Glad it survived! If oil is up to temp; sound might be hydraulic as thermostat is just letting a little oil past. Transbrake boosting, killer mate.
That makes sense. Hmmmm
I think I get just as excited as you do when I see you succeed. Much love brother.
I appreciate that
Brilliant 👏 👏 👏
Congrats Andrew. I laughed out loud when you said you were going to try some boost . Lol atta boy !!!! Keep it floored the trans will shift all the way through you with even know it. Haha wheel speed 240mph. I'd be careful on that heavy converter doing the trans brake. Reply to my email so I can send you an a90 converter. I picked up an extra one for you at the salvage yard .
I was quite surprised how many revs we saw on the converter there. I didnt want to mess it up, so i wasnt flat out. Keen to see what it does properly. I will get on to emails a bit later today. However thank you so much.
So awesome to see the car running and the 8HP is OK! I have an 8HP70 behind an M50B28 turbo in an e30, not running yet, but sooo close!
Good luck with the build. What controller are you using on the 8hp?
@@ZeroTo60Tube
Hey!
I'm using the HTG with a Domiworks loom (a gorgeous piece of art but $$$ and Aus customs hit me for even more). The HTG is being wired up to an F82 M-shifter and some paddles when I work out how to integrate that with the M-Tech 2 steering wheel without butchering it. An EMU Black is being wired in as well, replacing the SM4.
@@peted3637 Thats going to be an awesome setup once its all dialed in. Please keep me updated and if you have any questions or think we might be able to help with anything reach out.
@@ZeroTo60Tube
Will do! Loving your vids and build, BTW.
@@peted3637 much luck with the htg gcu though...probably won't ever run as fast and flawless as the lamik tcu
Congratulations man, well deserved.
Fukkin hell🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣that second pull is amazing saw it in your eyes man. That car is a Weapon🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Love it TEAMN54🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Lockd in🇯🇲
Ahhhh i missed it, i missed it so much.
@@ZeroTo60Tube I can definitely relate especially with all these upgrades📍😎
Looks like that aftermarket pan has caused really low line pressure. What a bummer!
I’m happy for you buddy,good work !
Thank you so much 😀
f**k yes. congrats man. had my first start on my built engine today too. I'm happy your trans is in tip top shape! I had no doubt it'd be fine .Awesome stuff👏
Woot woot!!! What are you using for boost control?
@@ZeroTo60Tube gofastbits boost controller
It’s Alive!!!!!!!! My goodness this has been a long road, but now it’s going to go by faster! 🤘🏼🤙🏼
Very well done!!! Please don't give up on trying to find a '13 X1 trans TCU to see if it can be done without the Lamik
It's possible on some late e6x/9x Series. The other possibility is to use the canformance-cantcu that is as to say a canbus translator/donator for the OEM unit. This swap has also been done. Adaptions will be needed though with xhp...
Woohoo that was a nail biter, good result mate 🍻💪
Yes it was
I’m so happy for you!!!
What a great result
I’m pretty sure you’ll change the gear fluid again, wonder what that looks like
👍👍👍
Yeah absolutely, i have ordered a new plastic pan, and will change it sometime next week.
Hey guys I love the videos, love the ebay/china parts. Very entertaining to see people build cars on a realistic budget. Would you ever consider doing an ebay single turbo car now that you've done an ebay twin?
haha, so wait for next week.... china single turbo build announcement.
Oil filter housing noise. Check small oring inside and gasket may be worn
All have been replaced. Well the orings you change when you do a filter and the gaskets. hmmmm i wonder if the oil filter basket thing is broken not seating or something.
Happy for you 😁👍👍 run in the motor as you wil use it later on 😎👌
On the flip side award 🥇 to the guy that pointed out the oil pan, I use a lot of URO parts so let them know I’m sure they’re probably not aware of the issue also vehicular DIY uses and recommends a lot of there bits they’re a American manufactured 🇺🇸 and they redesign plastic parts in metal if there prone to fail because there plastic hench your pan was metal
This is a strange one, but a very clear flaw, i found a heap of negative reviews on the pans on amazon. Similar issue with the 6hp version. This is such a crucial and easy part of the design to check, i'm really confused why they are this way.
I’m sure they will reply to you shortly URO 🤔
URO make they’re parts from metal as that’s there ethos, metal is superior to plastic
@@InstaltechCarAudio I haven't messaged them and wont bother. But judging by what others are saying there are a lot of issues with their products.
Stoked man 👍🏼
Nice work!!!!
Thank you! Cheers!
@Andrew That just goes to show the difference, not only in parts but the overall pressure that is used to properly operate the transmission. If anything if would have been nice to check the transmission pressures using “xHP”. Would have made for great research. As always 🍻
xHP can not actually check pressure either, it estimates it. There are no pressure sensors in the box. It just estimates pressure based on how the output shaft moves in relation to the input shaft. The TCUs both stock and lamik, are programmed to calculate these values. Just like how the DME calculates torque, it doesnt know the actual torque, it just estimates it based on certain available data. There's really not many electronics in the boxes at all.
@@ZeroTo60Tube thank you for your persistence dedication and thorough research, I have to say you have exceeded expectations and have left me in awe. I have nothing but high hopes for you not only for the channel, but the continued pioneering into the aftermarket world for the N54 platform. Keep paving the way for the N54 community 🤙🏼
Hats off to you dude, well done there’s always teething problems on a build it’s figuring them out is the hard bit.
When’s role racing happening?
I am definitely not rushing to rolls this time. With the eminent move we may be facing, i am trying to get everything done that i need the hoist for before we have to move out. So really dialing this in may have to take a back seat.
Man we have all been waiting for this !!! Big up to you and of course big up to lamik, because it's some impressive stuff he engineered here for us !!!
His work on this controller is absolutely outstanding. Its as good as an OEM tcu. Except you have full control over it.
@@ZeroTo60Tube he took ages to get it trialled and tested before passing over to customers unlike htg, giving end customer beta product that was throwing reverse while going forward smashing transmissions, but you can now tell why. He polished it so nice it actually is a game changer. Plus he really seems a decent bloke that cares for customer.
@@40hzMusic Im not saying Bartek doesnt care about his customers. But i think bartek is a very clever young guy, maybe doesnt realise most people are not on his level. Lukasz Lamik on the other hand, has been around the block and understand what retail customers (and a lot of mechanics) need. The Lamik TCU seems to be a true retail product. Very impressed so far.
awesome !!!! I would change motor oil and trans oil one more time for a peace of mind
Yes absolutely, i want to get a few more little things buttoned up and a few more miles on the base map, then will change both motor oil and trans fluids.
Makes me want to swap my 6MT for 8HP hahaha Sounds amazing!
I cant wait to get it tuned so it shifts more aggressive, not to mention transbrake.
Same here! I wonder what extra steps/coding would be required.
@@AnthonyWayneLee you would need to connect some wires in the DME box. Not many, like 8..... then code the car with NCS expert. Would be too hard. Alternatively if you are running sub 600nm you can just run the lamik seperate of the DME.
@@ZeroTo60Tube excuse my ignorance, but what do you mean by 600nm?
@@AnthonyWayneLee en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton-metre
Can't wait for this thing to be fully dialed in😎😎😎😎#teamn54
When you get in an n54 and it works 😂😂😂😂😂😂 It sucks all the clutch material you lost because of that pan. Looking forward to the day where you do the budget rebuild for the clutches
Not gonna lie, i was pricing clutch kits from china yesterday.....
Never would have thought something as simple as a cover could cause so much carnage! Glad the trans is safe
I've been warned about cheap trans filters before, always wondered how bad they could really be. Turns out, bloody awful. Valuable lesson, thanks for taking the hit!
To be honest i have only ever used cheap china trans pans, used more than you can imagine. Never had an issue. This was a first for me.
I don't think you have to worry about the clutches from the driving you've done so far. A lot of that gunk that came out could be from the life it had before it made it to you. Awesome to see the car is running. Can't wait to copy you ;P
You would think so, but the oil smelt so bad. I have never seen anything like it.... Ahhhh well, im sure its no different to a few years of normal use.
@@ZeroTo60Tube did it s.ell like that when you did the service for your other car? Or was this way worse?
@@SuperHbkforever I have never smelt trans oil like it. Even our x5 which has a faulty trans would stop moving when warm. The guy had been using it like that for months. That oil wasnt as bad as this.
@@ZeroTo60Tube ah I see...that's rather unfortunate. I'm certain the diesel trans will be ok :/ fingers crossed for you
Good work Andrew, I can't wait to get mine now, these things are awesome. Hopefully there hasn't been any long term damage done to the trans.
Fingers crossed.
I hope so to. I never loaded it up, but can you imagine sitting in a manual car with your foot half on the clutch pedal. Would take long to fry things.
@@ZeroTo60Tube oh yes, it wouldn't take long to destroy a clutch doing that, especially if its meant to be in oil and it isn't.
Good job on this build man! Nerves of steel and determination gets you a long way!
I was thinking of your notes on listening to the engine and the exhaust, if you can do a vid on how an n54 is supposed and not supposed to sound i.e. what to listen for and such? Mine has gotten noisier over time but nothing on the ecu to go on, and there are literally no n54 experts i my country (denmark)
N54s make some funny sounds at times. This motor with original pistons and rods was in my e92 and it had a strange tick every now and again, which i thought was a lifter or something. I feel like i heard it last week. However its quietened up after these run in miles. My first bit of advice with strange engine ticks, especially if the motor has a few miles on it. Get some thicker oil in it. My e92 OG motor i ran on the recommended 5w30. Since then i have moved to 10w60 on any motor i am giving a hard time. This one currently has 10w50. However the Castrol 10w60, i swear makes the n54s run quiet. There may be other side effects such as bearing clearance issues so keep that in mind, but i like the quiet valve train personally. Keep in mind, we are a warm climate. Denmark you might not need to go so thick. But try one step up from you currently run next oil change and see if it quietens up. Also grab yourself a cheap automotive stethoscope and try and narrow down if the noises are coming from the head, block etc.
@@ZeroTo60Tube thanks a lot for the advice, ill get a stethoscope and see if i can narrow it down :) keep up the good work, i look forward to seeing you smash it at the drags and rolls!
Brilliant. Happy to see it was a relatively easy fix. Great to see you enjoying some fruits after all the labor!
Us too!
Thanks for the video
I bought same pan for 6hp21x I you guys think have same problem?
It worked!! That's so damn cool! Transbrake and everything! 😁
Hell yeah brother
Here's me screaming at the TV to run the engine properly full well knowing if I was in the drivers seat I'd be doing the exact same thing 🤣
Bloody well done mate, been following for a long time and great to see you break the mould for these cars and show what can be done.
My soul was broken by my N54 experience but following your content wants me to join the dark side again!!
Dude thanks for the kind words. There is no doubt my soul would have also been crushed if did everything the right way. Here's to hoping we can get away by treating them like a normal car, not a super special "BMW". i swear all the accountants doing DIYs on forums for the last 15 years about proper procedures have done more damage than good for the platform. YOU DONT NEED A TORQUE WRENCH TO CHANGE THE FREAKING OIL!!!!!
My first drive will be tomorrow just for the 6hp19 flange bolted onto the box for my e46
I see a big smokey transbrake burnout competition in the future with Ohh Really and this new car ! 😁
Not gonna lie OHHRLY is the trans brake master. It goes from 0-280kmh wheel speed in a bout 1 second. Not sure this had the balls for that. But we will see.
Everyone is pumped !!!
Great to see its working mate 👌
Could have cost arm and a leg if the gearbox was toast 😣
My thoughts exactly
I seem to remember adam LZ putting an 8hp in his mustang with a barra in it and cooking it with a transmission controller (it may have been a lamik as well) and I forget extactly what his issue was (or what the root cause was) but he ended up cooking the 8hp. But to be fair he was thrashing the car when the trans wasn't happy haha. There could be some learnings in watchinf his videos on the barra mustang? Also you may want to change the filter out in a couple thousand km because the debris will build up quickly and it kills solenoids. P.S I'm not saying it's anything to do with lamiks controller causing the issue - but just saying because it was a similar setup it could be helpful to compare.
If I remember right he went for a htg gcu...and that thing doesn't work as good as a lamik tcu...esp back in the days of the barra trial it was super bad...a lot of gcu users skipped to lamik. Nor without reason.
@@maxgr7723 yeah you’re right I just went back and watched it, it made a bloody mess of the trans 😅
I was so excited when i saw adam running a HTG on the ford version of the 6hp. Fun fact about those ford trans they have the TCU external already, so hooking a controller up is super easy. Anyway i did think it was funny how the HTG dissapeared from the LZ even considering that had bartek tuning it. Proper youtube nerds should be watching Phil from driftwords e30, we'll see how long its in there.
Congratulations, all those late nights of wrenching finally paid off. Cant wait to see some dragy times!
You and me both! However, no rushing it this time. I wanna get it all properly dialed.
the transbrake is gonna be the most fun in this thing im calling it now, Can it support antilag and stuff too?
Congratulations mate. Can't wait to see the content on this
You and me both!
what a relief,aftermarket sump,such a crap
Wot is the best way to break an engine in imo.. that trans brake has me just as exited as you tho 😁
Keen to see how it bites under load compared to one in a glide. The glide feels insanely solid, this still feels a little gentle.
@@ZeroTo60Tube I think its the gear ratios that make the glide so violent so having shorter ratios would be weird with a trans brake
Only brand I avoid on my bmw is uro. I've used lots of other aftermarket parts with good success. Not uro.
Congratulations 🎉
Great to see that the trans doesn’t slip
it's sounds like a grand national. awesome
LOL that spin holy
Dude these turbos get down. I had forgotten