If it's not posted in Kentucky,I'm taking that risk and walking it....I'll play dumb later if need be. I ALWAYS try to find the landowner,but sometimes Im not able to do that.
It's people like this that have to complain about anything and can't mind their own business. He got permission so he's better then you and everyone else. Prolly goes home and farts in a wine glass, stirs it around the glass and smells it empty 😂
In PA the color Purple is now a legal NO TRESSPASSING/PRIVATE PROPERTY indicator, Purple dots everywhere. The “ Navigable stream” law is becoming an issue here as well, the water table is being sucked dry and so are our creeks, its confusing.
Creeks in Texas are public. We've been himmed up a few times by county cops. They never gave us any trouble. As long as we stay in the creek and don't trespass we are not breaking any laws. Some landowners don't like that. But that's too bad.
The Missouri comment. is un-warranted. One only has to be astounded by the East and West Coasties who try to control Public waterfront access. Ask the Huntington Beach dudes who are in jail for assaulting several youths for being on "their" beach. Missouri is the great rivers state, so, yes plenty of streams, so walk freely. The landowner controls the right to access the creek from the bank, but any person has a right to move upstream or downstream in the water, according to the Missouri Supreme Court in the 1954 case Elder v. Delcour, even if the creek is non-navigable. In some cases, the federal government has obtained an easement to allow recreational users the right to be on the streambanks, such as in the Ozark National Scenic Riverways (parts of the Jacks Fork and Current) and the National Wild and Scenic Rivers system (part of the Eleven Point).
Fact is we are all trespassing. You can own a piece of paper that says you own it, but all the land we stand on,is never ours.it belongs to itself and time.But unfortunately that's irrelevant. I like to get permission, I know where there's an untouched mound,no one is allowed up there,got permission to just go there and walk.i find so much stuff around town and along country roads, erosion riffles,I don't need to touch what is there, ,hell I put stuff back, when I find pieces that washed out. Just the fact that there is a place untouched for thousands of years, thats better than any relic on a shelf
Colorado law is different. Know the laws of where ever you hunt. Nothing worse than finding footprints where you know you are the only person with permission.
Mostly due to Farmers which thank God for them because agriculture is a very very needed supply and hard workers can be under intense lifestyle of wow I shouldn't have to explain how much I don't blame a farmer landowners outfitters or just straight up grumpy people. That's key on permission of trespassing is to get the wise or older generation to see them more positive outcomes of futures for younger generations of farmers and etc etc he wants to put a food plot of corn beans over a Bnmountains probably holding 500 to 1,000 bodies that nobody knew a the existence of them that's very good so I speculations and questions of numerous gray areas that my reason of theory of thinking and artifact hunting . And there should be both sexes male and female pray that more and more historical geological respectfully learning I'm coming wiser of or before lays on and underneath the dirt and yet have to come to the children's children the children's.
@@HickbillyOutdoorswithDWVerts Ewing Missouri I'll show your creek banks sold of fossil crocs. Too caves with paintings I'm to scared to walk in.. Respect the past. 100.
Where did you get the idea that there is such a thing as trespassing with permission? The literal definition means that you don't have permission. The same way that stealing means to take something without permission. If you have permission, you aren't stealing or trespassing. An even older definition of "trespass" would be to commit an offense towards someone. If you are legally trespassed from a property, you can't come back.
An interesting and with some folks, controversial topic, for sure. I'm in SC KY. This was a reply I got from the KY Fish and Wildlife after inquiring a few months back on KY law and floating streams. Not hunting artifacts. Good afternoon! You don’t need a permit or license to show anyone but as long as you’re floating in that stream and not stopped or standing in the stream or along the bank, those waters are public. See below for the regulations from the Dpt. For Environmental Protection pertaining to that: Kentucky Revised Statutes, Chapter 151 (KRS 151.120(1) Defines public waters of the commonwealth (WOC) as Water occurring in any stream, lake, ground water, subterranean water or other body of water in the Commonwealth which may be applied to any useful and beneficial purpose is hereby declared to be a natural resource and public water of the Commonwealth and subject to control or regulation for the public welfare as provided in KRS Chapters 146, 149, 151, 262 and 350.029 and 433.750 to 433.757). Landowners adjacent to WOC have the right to use the water for domestic purposes, use other than for domestic use requires a water withdrawal permit. Since the state retains ownership of the water, the surface of the water is public property. Landowners cannot build structures (fences, etc.) to limit public access to WOC, nor can they bar public use of surface waters for recreational purposes. Hope this helps! Thanks, Name of Specialist.. Info Specialist I Department of Fish and Wildlife Resources 1 Sportsman's Lane, Frankfort, KY 4060 So... get permission if your gonna hunt artifacts in KY!!! Be respectful folks. Bottom line.
I believe in kansass ;if an individual owns both sides of the water way, that person reserves the right to have you trespassed from not only the banks , but the waterway itself. I might be wrong about the water itself.
If your floating in the water in a boat you are not trespassing.If your standing on the crik bottom you are trespassing according to federal navigation law.If your walking the crik your not navigating it,in a boat you are navigating it.
I agree that about the state owned land (conservation areas etc) being kind of a dumb rule.. at least surface hunting artifacts in creeks....I agree that we don't need people out digging up all the conservation areas but their basis is that we are disturbing and removing artifacts from an ancient site and I just don't agree. Again this is specific to creeks/waterways because those artifacts could and most often are washed down that creek over hundreds to thousands of years or fall In and wash downstream at least somewhat therfore taking that artifact away from the context it was in and therefore could not technically be considered a site. This is what an archeologist I recently spoke to told me. In my eyes those artifacts are better off being found and removed and preserved rather than forsure being lost to history forever. But with that said I respect our conservation laws and never have hunted on State land of any type..I'm even sketchy to to the point I don't even want to enter a creek from a conservation area and walk outside the boundaries to look and then have to bring them back inside the boundaries to leave. It's a 225$ fine per artifact if they decide to charge you for removing them from state land even if you didn't and you were outside the boundaries, you would have a hard time proving you didn't. The few times I have done that I called the local Conservation agent to let them know that I would be leaving the boundaries before removing anything but that I will video them inside the park where they sit. I really gave one a good question that he could not answer, which was... If you are walking a creek on state land while hunting game or fishing and you look down and see that you have stepped on an artifact and broke it, does that make you guilty of damaging state owned property? Because if you can't remove it because it's technically state owned property then you also wouldn't be allowed to damage it..knowingly or not correct? I'm pretty sure I gave him something to try to make make sense of since he could not give me any type of answer.
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If it's not posted in Kentucky,I'm taking that risk and walking it....I'll play dumb later if need be.
I ALWAYS try to find the landowner,but sometimes Im not able to do that.
So I'm guessing that someone is hunting your spot and you're upset about it.
Well, I have 100's of spots, so...
It's people like this that have to complain about anything and can't mind their own business. He got permission so he's better then you and everyone else. Prolly goes home and farts in a wine glass, stirs it around the glass and smells it empty 😂
@@HickbillyOutdoorswithDWVerts I wish some people would tell me where 😭😭
I was told if you can walk on water you're fine
That's FUNNY. Sign me up! Thanks man...
In Alabama County Sheriffs dont make law.
I can't say that they do here, but they sure made the statement. Thanks for watching.
In PA the color Purple is now a legal NO TRESSPASSING/PRIVATE PROPERTY indicator, Purple dots everywhere. The “ Navigable stream” law is becoming an issue here as well, the water table is being sucked dry and so are our creeks, its confusing.
Man, sounds like MO... Thanks for watching!
Im also in PA, I can confirm 🙄
Creeks in Texas are public. We've been himmed up a few times by county cops. They never gave us any trouble. As long as we stay in the creek and don't trespass we are not breaking any laws. Some landowners don't like that. But that's too bad.
The Missouri comment. is un-warranted.
One only has to be astounded by the East and West Coasties who try to control Public waterfront access.
Ask the Huntington Beach dudes who are in jail for assaulting several youths for being on "their" beach.
Missouri is the great rivers state, so, yes plenty of streams, so walk freely.
The landowner controls the right to access the creek from the bank, but any person has a right to move upstream or downstream in the water, according to the Missouri Supreme Court in the 1954 case Elder v. Delcour, even if the creek is non-navigable. In some cases, the federal government has obtained an easement to allow recreational users the right to be on the streambanks, such as in the Ozark National Scenic Riverways (parts of the Jacks Fork and Current) and the National Wild and Scenic Rivers system (part of the Eleven Point).
Fact is we are all trespassing. You can own a piece of paper that says you own it, but all the land we stand
on,is never ours.it belongs to itself and time.But unfortunately that's irrelevant. I like to get permission, I know where there's an untouched mound,no one is allowed up there,got permission to just go there and walk.i find so much stuff around town and along country roads, erosion riffles,I don't need to touch what is there, ,hell I put stuff back, when I find pieces that washed out. Just the fact that there is a place untouched for thousands of years, thats better than any relic on a shelf
I can dig that Mike!
Mike you're full of shit. Nobody goes looking for arrowheads and puts them back.
I totally agree with ya bud. I know what I own and don't lol.. was glad to meet you at spring fork.
Thanks Brad- it was a pure pleasure for me too.
Brad, visit my other TH-cam channel for a few more bass fishin' videos. th-cam.com/channels/SVe7bajF0CwOXZtf32I63w.html
In Alabama it means navigable by canoe ,60 ft right of way at most bridges here, had 1 landowner call the cops for me fishing off a bridge.
Same way in Arkansas. You can look up to the high water mark
Colorado law is different. Know the laws of where ever you hunt. Nothing worse than finding footprints where you know you are the only person with permission.
Man, that's a fact. Thanks a bunch Kevin.
@@HickbillyOutdoorswithDWVerts My pleasure Sir.
Lmao glad I live on Tennessee valley cause we don’t need permission to float a creek thank GOD for sweet home north Alabama 😊
Good deal buddy- thanks for watching!
Mostly due to Farmers which thank God for them because agriculture is a very very needed supply and hard workers can be under intense lifestyle of wow I shouldn't have to explain how much I don't blame a farmer landowners outfitters or just straight up grumpy people. That's key on permission of trespassing is to get the wise or older generation to see them more positive outcomes of futures for younger generations of farmers and etc etc he wants to put a food plot of corn beans over a Bnmountains probably holding 500 to 1,000 bodies that nobody knew a the existence of them that's very good so I speculations and questions of numerous gray areas that my reason of theory of thinking and artifact hunting . And there should be both sexes male and female pray that more and more historical geological respectfully learning I'm coming wiser of or before lays on and underneath the dirt and yet have to come to the children's children the children's.
@@HickbillyOutdoorswithDWVerts Ewing Missouri I'll show your creek banks sold of fossil crocs. Too caves with paintings I'm to scared to walk in.. Respect the past. 100.
Where did you get the idea that there is such a thing as trespassing with permission? The literal definition means that you don't have permission. The same way that stealing means to take something without permission. If you have permission, you aren't stealing or trespassing. An even older definition of "trespass" would be to commit an offense towards someone. If you are legally trespassed from a property, you can't come back.
Well, maybe I'm just an idiot?
@@HickbillyOutdoorswithDWVerts Nah. I was sent here by the globalists to fight "misinformation". Jk
@@steamboatmcg2197 COOL!
An interesting and with some folks, controversial topic, for sure.
I'm in SC KY. This was a reply I got from the KY Fish and Wildlife after inquiring a few months back on KY law and floating streams. Not hunting artifacts.
Good afternoon! You don’t need a permit or license to show anyone but as long as you’re floating in that stream and not stopped or standing in the stream or along the bank, those waters are public. See below for the regulations from the Dpt. For Environmental Protection pertaining to that:
Kentucky Revised Statutes, Chapter 151 (KRS 151.120(1) Defines public waters of the commonwealth (WOC) as Water occurring in any stream, lake, ground water, subterranean water or other body of water in the Commonwealth which may be applied to any useful and beneficial purpose is hereby declared to be a natural resource and public water of the Commonwealth and subject to control or regulation for the public welfare as provided in KRS Chapters 146, 149, 151, 262 and 350.029 and 433.750 to 433.757).
Landowners adjacent to WOC have the right to use the water for domestic purposes, use other than for domestic use requires a water withdrawal permit. Since the state retains ownership of the water, the surface of the water is public property. Landowners cannot build structures (fences, etc.) to limit public access to WOC, nor can they bar public use of surface waters for recreational purposes.
Hope this helps!
Thanks,
Name of Specialist..
Info Specialist I
Department of Fish and Wildlife Resources
1 Sportsman's Lane, Frankfort, KY 4060
So... get permission if your gonna hunt artifacts in KY!!! Be respectful folks. Bottom line.
Looks like KY has it figured out. Thanks buddy,
I believe in kansass ;if an individual owns both sides of the water way, that person reserves the right to have you trespassed from not only the banks , but the waterway itself.
I might be wrong about the water itself.
That's why it's important to know the rules. Thanks Jupiter!
If your floating in the water in a boat you are not trespassing.If your standing on the crik bottom you are trespassing according to federal navigation law.If your walking the crik your not navigating it,in a boat you are navigating it.
I agree that about the state owned land (conservation areas etc) being kind of a dumb rule.. at least surface hunting artifacts in creeks....I agree that we don't need people out digging up all the conservation areas but their basis is that we are disturbing and removing artifacts from an ancient site and I just don't agree. Again this is specific to creeks/waterways because those artifacts could and most often are washed down that creek over hundreds to thousands of years or fall In and wash downstream at least somewhat therfore taking that artifact away from the context it was in and therefore could not technically be considered a site. This is what an archeologist I recently spoke to told me. In my eyes those artifacts are better off being found and removed and preserved rather than forsure being lost to history forever. But with that said I respect our conservation laws and never have hunted on State land of any type..I'm even sketchy to to the point I don't even want to enter a creek from a conservation area and walk outside the boundaries to look and then have to bring them back inside the boundaries to leave. It's a 225$ fine per artifact if they decide to charge you for removing them from state land even if you didn't and you were outside the boundaries, you would have a hard time proving you didn't. The few times I have done that I called the local Conservation agent to let them know that I would be leaving the boundaries before removing anything but that I will video them inside the park where they sit. I really gave one a good question that he could not answer, which was... If you are walking a creek on state land while hunting game or fishing and you look down and see that you have stepped on an artifact and broke it, does that make you guilty of damaging state owned property? Because if you can't remove it because it's technically state owned property then you also wouldn't be allowed to damage it..knowingly or not correct? I'm pretty sure I gave him something to try to make make sense of since he could not give me any type of answer.
EXCELLENT young man. Just perfect.