That thing with the bold in and a ground whire is the rectificator who was cooled by the ride wind in his old spot, my fireblade he was sitting on the back of the subframe and the more they age the thinwelds in the casting cracks, I emptied him and refreshed the thin, but before you know it is this thing why your engine is turninh off when it gets hot, you're already crazy about searching. Now that you are doing it to your buddy without any ride wind, I hope he does not get too hot and cools enough and goes along with it for a long time! Ilove your worspace, my sevenfifty must also have such a living room to undergo the same operations! success and pleasure in building, I enjoy it and it is not so much learning but gives me ideas of solutions for my project. Big Thanks from holland
Dude I'm doing the same thing with my Honda 2T wiring lomb, shortening the wires to fit under the seat is all about patience and doing it one wire at a time I feel
Hey Man, these are awesome vids! Thanks a lot for documenting/recording this project. I'm doing the exact same thing with a 92 CB750 that i acquired recently. It will be my 1st build with frame and wiring modification. I really appreciate you taking the time to do this - i will be referencing your vids often and possibly even sending you a message or two. Good luck with everything
That is awesome brother, Im excited that you are doing the same build, Feel free to share photos on the build on the Cafe Racer Garage FB page :) we all get inspired by each others builds :)
Great job as usual. Would you recommend a small spot welder to do mini jibs for the home workshop non pro occasional inexperienced user? If so, any specific type/range?
That module that was located up near the steering stem looks like the regulator/rectifier. This will get pretty hot and looks like it was mounted up there on a decent piece of frame to use as a heat sink.
I'm guessing the little relay thing may be a Selenium or silicone rectifier to convert the current from the stator from AC to DC to charge the battery. I'm no expert but working on a 1962 Honda with my son at the moment and have a rectifier thingy next to the battery connection. We are at the electrical stage also...... Great fun playing with all that coloured spaghetti. Keep the vids coming - really good and educational mate.
Paul Bull the rectifier is the one under the tank now we com to that i think it needs the ride wind to cooldown, if not the time age and the tin weld in it crack the time this happand you find the bike leave you stranded anywhere, you find yourself heatup breaking youre head why the damn thing only start when it gets cold enough the tinwelds come togehter an it starts again. Well ot is the rectifier. From outside it looks okey. I refreshed one and put aluminium cooleribs in the cast component, never ever it happand again
Also: is it possible to have a thin rubber or strong plastic strip that clips on to edges in order to eliminate rattle or clanging that may occur over time? Strips similar in shape to the blade protection covers on wood saws that slip on and off
I know exactly the feeling when looking at a loom like that! Feels hopeless! :-) You're on the right path on this one. That relay...my guess is it's a starterrelay. But I might be wrong. Merry Christmas!
Hi John, Thank you, I went looking for a smaller relay but no luck so far, I'm thinking of building a separate box just for this part. Merry Christmas mate, I hope Santa brings you lots of cool stuff :)
Merry Xmas mate to you and your family. Hope you have a great break. Some Electronic "fixes" by previous owners are a nightmare. what you have done with your electronics box and rerouting looks great and really professional.
Thank you mate, I wish you a happy, safe and fun-filled 🥂🍻 Christmas in Tas, 🌲 Hope Santa brings you some cool stuff and I hope you get extra time to play with ya bikes :) Merry Christmas 🎁
Great video mate. Are you going to run a lithium battery? If so will you need to change the voltage regulator? How do you know if you need to. I would like to put a lithium battery on my cb250 cafe racer. Some people have told me I my need to. Cheers
Sean Hunt great questions Sean, I'm using a Shorai battery and as far as I know I don't need to change anything to make it work. I used it to start the bike for the first time but not sure about charging just yet. The battery is super light. About the same weight as 2-3 iPhones, it's crazy light!! 👍
That small black box is a starter solenoid- do not take it apart, it is not serviceable! Of course you can troubleshoot the leads or replace it all together, but I doubt there is anything much smaller. I have the same model/year nighthawk as you and learned this bit of information the hard way!
Im in the middle of a CX550 build cafe racer and oem battery tray bolt fell out first week i got the bike and dropped the tray down and it cut wires and destroyed the battery and battery box
Thankyou Mathew, I've been playing with the idea of the M-Unit but how exactly does an M-unit Improve what Honda already has in place? Do you know what can get removed from the harness if anything? The wiring is honstly the part I dread most.
The harness looks factory. Honda did lots of splicing like that back in the day. You sure that relay isn’t the starter relay? That black box might be the stop safety circuits Honda used. Usually those are removed without issue. Gives indication of failed brake and/or tail lights. The wire colors on it indicate a rectifier though I’ve not seen one housed in plastic like that before.
Hi Steve, Merry Christmas, I would love to remove it but I'm a little worried about removing something with a fuse, I think I will make a small box to hide it by painting it black. Thank you for your comment, where can I find out more about this part? you seem to have some good knowledge :)
It is the starter relay without question. That fuse is probably the primary fuse to the whole bike. No removing it. I looked up the number on the other box near the coils and that’s the rect (just like the wire colors indicated), so unless you swap it for a different unit it has to stay as well. You could source an aftermarket rect that is much smaller if space gets tight. It’s looking good!
Cafe Racer Garage part number is 35850-MT4-000 Type it in on goodle or eBay, and the exact one that fits it that Honda uses for most of there bikes should pop up. If you can’t find it let me know and I will send you one.
Cafe Racer Garage I did the same build as you, just with a different tank. If you give me your email I could help you on anything you’d need. Also show you my build.
Hi Alex, that sounds awesome, ide love to see your build, Can you go to my channel homepage / About/ than click on the little icon that looks like a speech bubble to send me a personal message with your email so I can send you an email. :)
Jai p thank you mate, some guys love the helpful tips I give when talking so it’s hard to please everyone unfortunately. I try to keep the talking to a minimum if you have watched any of my latest videos
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That thing with the bold in and a ground whire is the rectificator who was cooled by the ride wind in his old spot, my fireblade he was sitting on the back of the subframe and the more they age the thinwelds in the casting cracks, I emptied him and refreshed the thin, but before you know it is this thing why your engine is turninh off when it gets hot, you're already crazy about searching. Now that you are doing it to your buddy without any ride wind, I hope he does not get too hot and cools enough and goes along with it for a long time! Ilove your worspace, my sevenfifty must also have such a living room to undergo the same operations! success and pleasure in building, I enjoy it and it is not so much learning but gives me ideas of solutions for my project. Big Thanks from holland
Dani Hart thank you so much for your ideas and amazing comments my bike building brother.
I used an old side panel of a PC CPU to make the same box, for free. It's a very good idea.
Electronics tray is killer. Great job.
Thank you Peter, I love comments like this, it makes me want to shoot more videos :) Merry Chrismas mate.
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Another great video! I’m in the middle of a cafe project myself.. merry Christmas from Canada!
Thank you, Tom, Merry Christmas from Australia mate 🎁🍻
Dude I'm doing the same thing with my Honda 2T wiring lomb, shortening the wires to fit under the seat is all about patience and doing it one wire at a time I feel
ThatGuyCalled ART where do you live brother? I'm on the Goldcoast Australia
Cafe Racer Garage county of buckinghamshire, England !
Hey Man, these are awesome vids! Thanks a lot for documenting/recording this project. I'm doing the exact same thing with a 92 CB750 that i acquired recently. It will be my 1st build with frame and wiring modification. I really appreciate you taking the time to do this - i will be referencing your vids often and possibly even sending you a message or two. Good luck with everything
That is awesome brother, Im excited that you are doing the same build, Feel free to share photos on the build on the Cafe Racer Garage FB page :) we all get inspired by each others builds :)
Mate, loving the video style keep doing what you’re doing!
Thank you, Jay, That is some awesome feedback mate. :) :) Merry Christmas mate and I Hope Santa is good to you this year, (Santa meaning Vicki) lol 🌲
Great job as usual. Would you recommend a small spot welder to do mini jibs for the home workshop non pro occasional inexperienced user? If so, any specific type/range?
That module that was located up near the steering stem looks like the regulator/rectifier. This will get pretty hot and looks like it was mounted up there on a decent piece of frame to use as a heat sink.
Great comment Minerma, I didn't know this but mow I will look into it, thank you so much for dropping me a comment, Merry Christmas :)
I'm guessing the little relay thing may be a Selenium or silicone rectifier to convert the current from the stator from AC to DC to charge the battery. I'm no expert but working on a 1962 Honda with my son at the moment and have a rectifier thingy next to the battery connection.
We are at the electrical stage also...... Great fun playing with all that coloured spaghetti.
Keep the vids coming - really good and educational mate.
Paul Bull
Someone told me is was a starter solenoid but I'm still yet to find a smaller one 😕
That's a cool project for father and son
Paul Bull the rectifier is the one under the tank now we com to that i think it needs the ride wind to cooldown, if not the time age and the tin weld in it crack the time this happand you find the bike leave you stranded anywhere, you find yourself heatup breaking youre head why the damn thing only start when it gets cold enough the tinwelds come togehter an it starts again. Well ot is the rectifier. From outside it looks okey. I refreshed one and put aluminium cooleribs in the cast component, never ever it happand again
Also: is it possible to have a thin rubber or strong plastic strip that clips on to edges in order to eliminate rattle or clanging that may occur over time? Strips similar in shape to the blade protection covers on wood saws that slip on and off
I know exactly the feeling when looking at a loom like that! Feels hopeless! :-) You're on the right path on this one. That relay...my guess is it's a starterrelay. But I might be wrong. Merry Christmas!
Hi John, Thank you, I went looking for a smaller relay but no luck so far, I'm thinking of building a separate box just for this part. Merry Christmas mate, I hope Santa brings you lots of cool stuff :)
Merry Xmas mate to you and your family. Hope you have a great break. Some Electronic "fixes" by previous owners are a nightmare. what you have done with your electronics box and rerouting looks great and really professional.
Thank you mate, I wish you a happy, safe and fun-filled 🥂🍻 Christmas in Tas, 🌲 Hope Santa brings you some cool stuff and I hope you get extra time to play with ya bikes :) Merry Christmas 🎁
Nice vid, thanks for sharing
That's the starter motor relay mate,. The black box next to the battery terminal.
Thanx Ray :)
It looks like a starter siloniod brother, unless you have a kick starter you'll need it.
Great video mate. Are you going to run a lithium battery? If so will you need to change the voltage regulator? How do you know if you need to. I would like to put a lithium battery on my cb250 cafe racer. Some people have told me I my need to. Cheers
Sean Hunt great questions Sean, I'm using a Shorai battery and as far as I know I don't need to change anything to make it work. I used it to start the bike for the first time but not sure about charging just yet. The battery is super light. About the same weight as 2-3 iPhones, it's crazy light!! 👍
That small black box is a starter solenoid- do not take it apart, it is not serviceable! Of course you can troubleshoot the leads or replace it all together, but I doubt there is anything much smaller. I have the same model/year nighthawk as you and learned this bit of information the hard way!
What gauge metal are you using on the fuse box build
What tank do to have fitted ? What model/year CB?
You really need to check out the motogadget m-unit its the answer to spaghetti monsters dreams.
I think you are 100% right Alan I'm looking at my options at the moment, Poor guy will need a new nickname once he is finished lol
Im in the middle of a CX550 build cafe racer and oem battery tray bolt fell out first week i got the bike and dropped the tray down and it cut wires and destroyed the battery and battery box
Run an M-Unit and a lithium micro battery, both will probably fit under seat.
Thankyou Mathew, I've been playing with the idea of the M-Unit but how exactly does an M-unit Improve what Honda already has in place? Do you know what can get removed from the harness if anything? The wiring is honstly the part I dread most.
Cafe Racer Garage sparck moto makes simple harnesses.
The harness looks factory. Honda did lots of splicing like that back in the day. You sure that relay isn’t the starter relay? That black box might be the stop safety circuits Honda used. Usually those are removed without issue. Gives indication of failed brake and/or tail lights. The wire colors on it indicate a rectifier though I’ve not seen one housed in plastic like that before.
Hi Steve, Merry Christmas, I would love to remove it but I'm a little worried about removing something with a fuse,
I think I will make a small box to hide it by painting it black. Thank you for your comment, where can I find out more about this part? you seem to have some good knowledge :)
It is the starter relay without question. That fuse is probably the primary fuse to the whole bike. No removing it. I looked up the number on the other box near the coils and that’s the rect (just like the wire colors indicated), so unless you swap it for a different unit it has to stay as well. You could source an aftermarket rect that is much smaller if space gets tight. It’s looking good!
What material are you using for the tray
Tom Widlake I did answer this in the other video but just in case you didn’t see it, I use 1.6 steel plate :)
It’s a starter relay, you can replace it with a blade style fuse holder.
Thank you for that Alex. I'm not totally sure what to search for on google to find this?
Cafe Racer Garage part number is 35850-MT4-000
Type it in on goodle or eBay, and the exact one that fits it that Honda uses for most of there bikes should pop up. If you can’t find it let me know and I will send you one.
Your a legend Alex :)
Cafe Racer Garage I did the same build as you, just with a different tank. If you give me your email I could help you on anything you’d need. Also show you my build.
Hi Alex, that sounds awesome, ide love to see your build, Can you go to my channel homepage / About/ than click on the little icon that looks like a speech bubble to send me a personal message with your email so I can send you an email. :)
please, less talking, more showing.
Jai p thank you mate, some guys love the helpful tips I give when talking so it’s hard to please everyone unfortunately.
I try to keep the talking to a minimum if you have watched any of my latest videos
Please keep talking. Your insights and explainations are helpful.