Several weeks ago I saved my moms apartment from going up in flames after she left something on the stove. By the time I took the fire extinguisher to the stove, we had six foot flames kissing the ceiling, and it was literally seconds from catching. Most people have no idea how insane a house fire is, and how quickly fire can spread. Be cool about fire safety.
Sorry guys, but I got to say that’s kind of questionable reporting. That crane when it fell, fell into a buddies house of mine. He was home. It crashed through his kitchen and living room. He was doing something on the other side of the house. You don’t have a picture of that crane in the house? What do reporters do anymore? You’ve missed a major part of the story.
Um you just noticing lousy reporting? Not exclusive here. This is commonplace. Watch weekend news for yesterdays stories. News that isn't news. Weekends they take off.
They're building these wood structure buildings, with so much combustibles, and people live in them and think it's safe. Just cheaper and faster to build for developers and more money in their pockets
Odd that CTV couldn't find one Canadian reporter who needed a job. Gotta hire Australians now? Where are all the BC journalism grads who speak Canadian English? I got nothing against people from other countries in general, but when I turn on a local news channel I expect to hear local voices.
Started at the roof and burned down. This is roofers either starting a fire, not doing a fire watch or very improperly storing their propane bottles. The company i work for does work in the area and i'll bet you can guess what our toolbox talk will be tomorrow.
I hope the residents were told by fire fighters about the lead levels in the paint of that crane? I've personally had this paint tested by a private lab and extensively by WorkSafeBC and it was found to be over 15 times the legal amount to be allowed into Canada. But these companies get around the laws by lying about the contents of the paint! I welded on these machines for the better part of a decade without being told by my employer that it was extremely toxic. Now I'm a 55 year old men with multiple incurable cancers, tumor, organ failures, diabetes and so much more. Now I sit at home waiting to die. I hope someone reads this and contacts their lawyer about the effects of burning lead paint on peoples health. Stay safe.
Not enough a life of servitude they have to poison us while we're at it. Sorry for your suffering. I hope you can rest easy knowing you may have saved lives with your comment.
The crane collapse from extreme heat melted the tower section I’m a professional Tower Crane Operator . I’ve never seen such a scary thing like that. I hope the operators OK. 👍
@@glennhankins6927 how is lowering regulations to make cheaper houses, which only benefits developers, no house buyers, a ‘liberal mentality’? I’d think it’s pretty bare capitalism- profit over people.
Because the CBC, as a public broadcaster, is targeted by anti-government conspiracy theorist bots in a way that private broadcasters aren't. There's no room for actual people to comment on the stories.
Used to live in the lower mainland. Seems to me that previously the construction rules for wood framed buildings was that they could only be 3 stories. When did that change?
Trudeau and his housing schemes changed that. He wants to use every stick of pesky carbon to build with. He thinks that will solve the carbon problem. In his mind only.
It was changed quite a few years ago. I work in engineering and 6 stories are popping up all over and also on the Island, a lot of it is social housing.
@@drumswest5035 would you say wood frames are good for bigger sized apartments? Definitely seems like a change made for the benefit of cheap building at the cost of residents safety
I personaly would never live in a large wood framed multi unit structure. If the sprinkler system is functioning, the risk of massive fire is low. But when the crap is hitting the fan, and there is no water pressure, the fire risk goes up exponentially.
That was probably a major, contributing factor in these cases; a building under construction hasn't had sprinklers installed yet, and the other building, damaged and all but abandoned probably had the sprinklers turned off.
@@sharpcanines3347 The fire sprinklers in the hallways, stairwells, sometimes the apartment unit itself. The fire safety premise is that the sprinklers will control a fire long enough for the fire dept to get there and put it out. But if the sprinklers are not working, there is nothing to slow down the fire.
@@sharpcanines3347that's one for the landlord, or the building owner. I'm NOT an expert, but I do know that there are also other measures that help protect structures, like enclosing the wood frames in fire resistant materials, like drywall or plaster.
They keep trying to go more floors with these wooden apartment buildings. They're so cheap to build and so highly profitable... and flammable. Alberta allows up to 12 stories in wood.
most likely had 24/7 security cam system in place, but who puts them on the new roof ? Plus, once the torch-on membrane ignites, it’s a legit firestorm.
@@blueman5924 Typically, There is usually an old Sikh guy patrolling the site to prevent any theft or arson. I am assuming they had no security. Are you sure it was torch-on?
So many modern types of fire proof and safe material's to choose from these days, to build homes with including cement it doesn't burn. Why do we keep building with wooden sticks? It's too expensive, takes to long to build, flood damage too severe, insurance premiums to expensive and impact's adjoining properties!
Smoke inhalation is really dangerous. If the air quality reading is 5 or more, the particulates can do major damage to your throat, lungs, immune system, etc. Sadly, I've learned this from a season of terrible forest fire smoke.
It still amazes me that multi-story multi-unit buildings with so little fire protection are allowed. Way to go NRC ( NRC writes the national building code), money for developers, but no fire protection until the drywall is up, and then only 30 minutes.
Another arson also happens at empty building thus common in big cities with big realstate market builder burn down building and within a week they have permits to build new projects in this spots
Is this arson? No way this happened on it self. It was natural there would have been 10x fires at once in a same area close to the supposedly heat wave. But this is 1 isolated incident that happened to a constuction site which was incomplete as if they ran out of funding and the best way is to burn it to collect Insurance
Six-storey wood frame construction has to be one of the most short-sighted decisions by our Bolshevist provincial government in decades. The engineering for 4-storey wood frame construction was already impressive, with ground floor load bearing wall stud spacing at no more than 300 mm (nominally 12") O/C, not to mention a LOT of lumber needed. At 6-stories, that ground floor load bearing wall stud spacing drops to 150 mm (nominally 6") O/C… particularly when you factor-in the need for seismic restraint (barely enough room to put electrical/plumbing services within the stud wall cavities, let alone exterior thermal insulation and interior inter-suit fire/sound insulation). As for these fires… can you say _“insurance fraud”?_ 🤔
How do we allow multi level wood construction in this day and age. Fire safety was exactly the reason concrete and steel was developed. It is not progress it is cost cutting only
The question should be "Why do we allow arson". I guess people don't like loosing money and will resort to what ever it takes to prevent the loss of income. It does not matter how unsafe, they will destroy it.
Developers are smarter than governments. Put out the story that wood framed buildings are better for the environment and boom you get to build on the cheap. Fire safety and longevity of the building be damned.
wood framed apartment complexes 😂. like building a boat out of styrofoam. as a firefighter, i will tell you learn how to identify the differences between wood frame and block construction when you shop around. if you go with the wood, get a good renters insurance policy and a lotta tubes of burn cream. ya gonna need it.
@@cchia6640 Mostly Haitians and French speaking Africans here in NB. They get their license and free car in Quebec (Merci Justin) and head east. You should see those things after a few months...Can't find any local talent at McPukes, Tims or Walmart.
This was I think a gov funded building for more affordable housing. burn it down get insurance plus gov money then say it failded and use money to build expensive condos
Insurance = big money
No it doesn't.
Yes it does ...!!!! Guilty conscience is making a appearance.Perhaps hmmm
that's right. especially in this market
@@checory I am pretty sure all the suite were pre-sold prior to construction.
Negligent roofers improperly storing propane.
Several weeks ago I saved my moms apartment from going up in flames after she left something on the stove. By the time I took the fire extinguisher to the stove, we had six foot flames kissing the ceiling, and it was literally seconds from catching. Most people have no idea how insane a house fire is, and how quickly fire can spread. Be cool about fire safety.
Sorry guys, but I got to say that’s kind of questionable reporting.
That crane when it fell, fell into a buddies house of mine. He was home. It crashed through his kitchen and living room. He was doing something on the other side of the house. You don’t have a picture of that crane in the house?
What do reporters do anymore? You’ve missed a major part of the story.
I’m sure news crews were not allowed in the area.
And also no mention of the cause .At least say we are investigating what caused it. And people here is speculating.
Um you just noticing lousy reporting? Not exclusive here. This is commonplace. Watch weekend news for yesterdays stories. News that isn't news. Weekends they take off.
@@Plutogalaxy cause I have a life a job and a family I live in new Westminster not Dunbar.
@@Plutogalaxy Maybe He doesn't work for the channel .what is logic behind random demand from random people of random people.
Poor Chinese Investors
You make a good point there! The way that China's economy is on the down turn today, it's one way out for any investors!
Insurance fraud on the last story. Check the owners whereabouts. Bet he’s arrested for this.
Greedy
The building owner was previously charged for several fire code violations.... Will they be investigating and charging him with criminal negligence?
In british columbia?, hell no 😂😂
No way Wild West over here
ALR dumping and pollution is also big joke
Different fire, actually.
Dodging bankruptcy 🔥🔥🔥
Sounds like a controlled arsen to walk away from an unprofitable project in construction.
Probably just junkies tbh
No such thing in Hongcouver, sold out before they are even a hole in the ground to the Chinese.
3 fires? Gee imagine!
New builds are very fire prone when real estate market drops.
@@mr2_mike Ding ! Ding ! Ding ! Winner, winner, chicken dinner !
Obviously chasing for insurance. If not, fire means zero cost demolition.
Not exactly zero cost for the tax payers
@@kingchongy1712never 😶
@@tinalaursen8993 right… you don’t pay the taxes that services the vehicles to put out the flames…
@@kingchongy1712 yahhhhhhh, that part gets forgotten. The downside of services via public $$$$$.
Esparda, have you heard this for a fact?
Planned Arson?
Most likely. Given the unprofitable climate for builders in Canada, it is very possible.
Agree , where does anyone build a 6 floor wooden structure 🤔
is arson ever unplanned?
Yes probably. Why would their be a big explosion sound? Someone definelty planned this
@@ethanho9626 it happens when developers realize they will lose money.
WHY wasn't the house EVACUATED BEFORE the crane fell on it?
Chinese run for the insurance money. No doubt!
Arson
They're building these wood structure buildings, with so much combustibles, and people live in them and think it's safe. Just cheaper and faster to build for developers and more money in their pockets
hongcouver real estate going up in flames
Unsurprising racist comment.
@@murphy804because most of Vancouver's real estate hasn't been inflated by speculators and Rich foreign investors from Hong Kong?
This is why wood frammed apartment buildings should be illegal.
thanks for this, I saw the trucks rushing to East Van and the huge plume of black smoke 😢
Odd that CTV couldn't find one Canadian reporter who needed a job. Gotta hire Australians now? Where are all the BC journalism grads who speak Canadian English? I got nothing against people from other countries in general, but when I turn on a local news channel I expect to hear local voices.
you know she's a Canadian Citizen, right? Or by local do you mean all the natives whos language you don't understand?
@fortheloveofcars4655 She's a PR. Not a citizen.
glulam beams should have had fire retardant as Mike Holmes said over and over
When your building out of 2×4 's and plywood 6 stories what do you expect! A fire is a major risk in a close residential area.
So then, just put another "Shrimp on the barbie; this could have been much. much worse."
That's why here in America you can only build a three story wood frame, higher then that I think it has to be iron beam construction
Started at the roof and burned down. This is roofers either starting a fire, not doing a fire watch or very improperly storing their propane bottles.
The company i work for does work in the area and i'll bet you can guess what our toolbox talk will be tomorrow.
Hope everyone is safe 🙏🏼
I hope the residents were told by fire fighters about the lead levels in the paint of that crane?
I've personally had this paint tested by a private lab and extensively by WorkSafeBC and it was found to be over 15 times the legal amount to be allowed into Canada.
But these companies get around the laws by lying about the contents of the paint!
I welded on these machines for the better part of a decade without being told by my employer that it was extremely toxic.
Now I'm a 55 year old men with multiple incurable cancers, tumor, organ failures, diabetes and so much more.
Now I sit at home waiting to die.
I hope someone reads this and contacts their lawyer about the effects of burning lead paint on peoples health.
Stay safe.
Not enough a life of servitude they have to poison us while we're at it. Sorry for your suffering. I hope you can rest easy knowing you may have saved lives with your comment.
Yup they banned the paint but the equipment was out there for years
The crane collapse from extreme heat melted the tower section I’m a professional Tower Crane Operator . I’ve never seen such a scary thing like that. I hope the operators OK. 👍
"...hormes..."? what the hell is a horme?
I question the wisdom of 6 storey wooden construction.
No kidding put us at risk for profit nuts!
The Green New Deal, brought to you by AOC.
@@glennhankins6927 Wrong country…
@@karenneill9109 Same wacko liberal mentality though.
@@glennhankins6927 how is lowering regulations to make cheaper houses, which only benefits developers, no house buyers, a ‘liberal mentality’? I’d think it’s pretty bare capitalism- profit over people.
Thank you for allowing comments. Why won’t CBC allow them?
You seriously can't figure that out?
Because the CBC, as a public broadcaster, is targeted by anti-government conspiracy theorist bots in a way that private broadcasters aren't. There's no room for actual people to comment on the stories.
Because they are the Orwellian network.
Because of all the anti-government types who swamp them with complaints funded by the Republican Party.
Ban apartment wood fame buildings, It will solve condo rot also
Used to live in the lower mainland. Seems to me that previously the construction rules for wood framed buildings was that they could only be 3 stories. When did that change?
Trudeau and his housing schemes changed that. He wants to use every stick of pesky carbon to build with. He thinks that will solve the carbon problem. In his mind only.
It was changed quite a few years ago. I work in engineering and 6 stories are popping up all over and also on the Island, a lot of it is social housing.
@@drumswest5035 would you say wood frames are good for bigger sized apartments? Definitely seems like a change made for the benefit of cheap building at the cost of residents safety
In the panic to fix what government broke, they change safety rules. History repeating. I'll take a hard pass on living in one of these things.
Corruption comes to mind.
I personaly would never live in a large wood framed multi unit structure. If the sprinkler system is functioning, the risk of massive fire is low. But when the crap is hitting the fan, and there is no water pressure, the fire risk goes up exponentially.
That was probably a major, contributing factor in these cases; a building under construction hasn't had sprinklers installed yet, and the other building, damaged and all but abandoned probably had the sprinklers turned off.
I live in 4 story wood frame structure. What is this sprinkler system if which you speak?
@@sharpcanines3347
The fire sprinklers in the hallways, stairwells, sometimes the apartment unit itself. The fire safety premise is that the sprinklers will control a fire long enough for the fire dept to get there and put it out. But if the sprinklers are not working, there is nothing to slow down the fire.
@@sharpcanines3347that's one for the landlord, or the building owner. I'm NOT an expert, but I do know that there are also other measures that help protect structures, like enclosing the wood frames in fire resistant materials, like drywall or plaster.
Seems somebody figured the insurance payout was a better bet huh ? Maybe both somebody's....
The second fire was started by homeless people. And look who owns it. Surprise.
Has the investigation been completed and information released? Where can I find this report?
Is this what daily life is going to be now? Just utter chaos
This guy, in a mask. Really?
That's smart, I know people who were there and they don't feel well today because of the smoke
These wood multistory buildings are just plain dumb.
Who lit the match😂😂😂😂
You did.
some homeless guy or agent from overseas, probably paid by someone who wants to claim the insurance
@@checory Or maybe a neighbor didn't want their view blocked by this 6 story monstrosity, and potentially ruining future resale values.
Unless that crane was remotely controlled, then there is at minimum, one fatality. 🙏🏽
It seems that wildfires are not enough in BC . They also have to test luck building 6 floors wood buildings
Why the hell are they building a six story building with wood?
Must have been a pretty big jet
6 floors wood ?! In Quebec if it’s wood only 4 floors !
They keep trying to go more floors with these wooden apartment buildings. They're so cheap to build and so highly profitable... and flammable. Alberta allows up to 12 stories in wood.
Should have had 24hrs security
most likely had 24/7 security cam system in place, but who puts them on the new roof ? Plus, once the torch-on membrane ignites, it’s a legit firestorm.
@@blueman5924 Typically, There is usually an old Sikh guy patrolling the site to prevent any theft or arson. I am assuming they had no security. Are you sure it was torch-on?
Alot of homes go on fire as soon as real estate prices go down. I wish someone in the govt would step up and burst this scam.
So many modern types of fire proof and safe material's to choose from these days, to build homes with including cement it doesn't burn. Why do we keep building with wooden sticks? It's too expensive, takes to long to build, flood damage too severe, insurance premiums to expensive and impact's adjoining properties!
Why are people still wearing masks?!
Smoke inhalation is really dangerous. If the air quality reading is 5 or more, the particulates can do major damage to your throat, lungs, immune system, etc. Sadly, I've learned this from a season of terrible forest fire smoke.
It still amazes me that multi-story multi-unit buildings with so little fire protection are allowed. Way to go NRC ( NRC writes the national building code), money for developers, but no fire protection until the drywall is up, and then only 30 minutes.
All new builds have sprinkler systems, code.
Is this in canada?
Chinese owner = cheap and will try to take advantage of the system
But wood frame buildings can't burn.
Wait, what?
Sorry sir I can't hear you through your silly mask
Waters.
Another arson also happens at empty building thus common in big cities with big realstate market builder burn down building and within a week they have permits to build new projects in this spots
100% Arson. But is it for an a big pay day from insurance OR unhappy neighbours trying to protect their property value?
Is this arson? No way this happened on it self. It was natural there would have been 10x fires at once in a same area close to the supposedly heat wave. But this is 1 isolated incident that happened to a constuction site which was incomplete as if they ran out of funding and the best way is to burn it to collect Insurance
Was anyone hurt ?
they shouldn't make apartment out of wood anyway especially those this tall.
Six-storey wood frame construction has to be one of the most short-sighted decisions by our Bolshevist provincial government in decades.
The engineering for 4-storey wood frame construction was already impressive, with ground floor load bearing wall stud spacing at no more than 300 mm (nominally 12") O/C, not to mention a LOT of lumber needed. At 6-stories, that ground floor load bearing wall stud spacing drops to 150 mm (nominally 6") O/C… particularly when you factor-in the need for seismic restraint (barely enough room to put electrical/plumbing services within the stud wall cavities, let alone exterior thermal insulation and interior inter-suit fire/sound insulation).
As for these fires… can you say _“insurance fraud”?_ 🤔
That's what happens when you build too closely to each other.. the fire spreads easier
Illegal immigrants. Again
Huh?
And they want to build taller buildings out of wood?
Hello everybody 👋
Woodframe, on how many stories.
Wood construction, If so fires also happened in Ottawa and T.O. Maybe they should rethink no wood frame construction over three stories..
What a dork
6 story wood framed building... wow likely saved some lives down the road when the place caught fire lol.
"It started furiously." Nice English. Really nice.🙄And you write for a living?
Mostly peaceful.
Who is building 6 story wood frame structures in 2024?
another protection racket fire???
How do we allow multi level wood construction in this day and age. Fire safety was exactly the reason concrete and steel was developed. It is not progress it is cost cutting only
The question should be "Why do we allow arson". I guess people don't like loosing money and will resort to what ever it takes to prevent the loss of income. It does not matter how unsafe, they will destroy it.
Developers are smarter than governments. Put out the story that wood framed buildings are better for the environment and boom you get to build on the cheap. Fire safety and longevity of the building be damned.
Because they are just as safe from fire as concrete (once sprinklers are installed.)
Arson again
100 % this build was over budget.
Global can't hire a reporter that doesn't sound like an australian?
When you want the best people sometimes the best people are from Australia
@@seanfaherty Um no. BCIT has a journalism school.
@@user-wl7dt1uw2e but are they better ?
Maybe they’re cheap because they are on the foreign worker program.
wood framed apartment complexes 😂. like building a boat out of styrofoam. as a firefighter, i will tell you learn how to identify the differences between wood frame and block construction when you shop around. if you go with the wood, get a good renters insurance policy and a lotta tubes of burn cream. ya gonna need it.
Developer Lightning.
Payday for the restoration company
Wood fires can't melt steel!
500f starts to do stuff to steel. It expands , then Buckles .
Why do we have Australian news reporters here now ?
If you’re worried about the news reporters, you should see entry level jobs. Indians are taking all the work for young people.
@@cchia6640 Mostly Haitians and French speaking Africans here in NB. They get their license and free car in Quebec (Merci Justin) and head east. You should see those things after a few months...Can't find any local talent at McPukes, Tims or Walmart.
@@BlowinshiddupOpen your own pizza shop.
Are you serious?
@@Caperhere Nah, I hate dealing with the public.
Insurance fraud
Worksafe needa to start doing worksite inspections.
BC safety cultural is the worst in western Canada.
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This was I think a gov funded building for more affordable housing. burn it down get insurance plus gov money then say it failded and use money to build expensive condos
Australian news channel?
Dodging market crash? 😂
Dam climate change!!!
Insurnce scam
Worksafe needs to start doing worksite inspections.
BC safety culture is the worst in western Canada.
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Hmm,another fire or another coincidence 🔥
Trudeau's fault
Arson.
Notice they never talk about the causes of fires like they use to? Are these more Directed Energy Weapon hits?
Climate change ?
Bruhhh imagine wearing a mask in 2024
Imagine caring if other people wear a mask in 2024.
@murphy804 Imagine caring if someone cares if someone's wearing a mask in 2024
@@4ur3ntert4inm3nt etc, etc 🤣
Developer gone bankrupt during the build ,…Oh my my high rise caught fire 🔥 good thing I’m fully insured 😮
Agreed
Rumour has it that they put a chick in it, and made it lame.
This is why we need to increase the carbon tax ;)
The problem. NDP. Dave Eby. Jughead Singh. Cutting corners, lowering standards.
Don't forget Trudeau. I bet he started them both with his little communist matches.
@@Nick-kb6jd Just to be safe you should move to Alabama.
@@jamieh4148 He's already there.
Abracadabra sounds good.
Extortion wasn't paid for one, insurance claim for the other
but of course that's only speculation
DEI crane