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- This walkthrough of my current version of the Edison Format Cube will give you an idea of the type of deckbuilding philosophy @E3YuGiOh and I had when building a cube! Below are the timestamps, and then the list. Hope you enjoy!
0:00 Intro
5:30 Recruiters
8:58 Dark
17:30 Blackwings
26:00 Tribute Summonables
30:07 Machines
37:10 Synchrons
39:00 Warriors
47:16 Light
51:04 Zombies
53:47 Aliens
55:40 Water
59:52 Gladiator Beasts
1:02:12 Earth + X-Sabers
1:05:08 Psychics
1:06:36 Plants
1:09:11 Fire
1:10:48 Spellcasters + Gravekeepers
1:16:22 Intro to Backrow
1:16:44 Offensive/Proactive Backrow
1:20:32 Removal Spells TM
1:20:54 Hybrid offensive/defensive
1:22:42 Backrow removal
1:24:24 Battle tricks
1:25:32 Defensive Traps
1:28:37 Discard Traps/Hybrid Removal
1:30:40 Extra Deck
1:35:48 Final Thoughts
Cube List: docs.google.com/document/d/1h...
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Lol it appears I forgot to do a cut part way through the video, so I got to let you know twice how much this video was about having fun and discovering what each part of the cube does! I hope y'all enjoyed it.
Repeated for emphasis. Nothing wrong here.
Awesome can't wait watch all of this. Also timestamps are sadly brocken after the "Light" part.
Poor flying kamakiri getting the recruiter snub
This is dope! I love cube and have been trying to get Joe and others to cube for a long time, so I’m hyped at how cool this project is. I’ve designed lots of cube in paper and digitally in the past.
I love the design of this one. Drafting extra deck monsters in a separate pack in the middle of the draft (if I understand Patreon correctly) is such a smart way to integrate them, and I think using a variable number of copies to control the size and “rarity” of archetypes is super smart, especially for yugioh, where effects are generally less replacable than in magic.
It’d be super sick to draft this one day
legendary video
Glad to hear it from the legend that worked with me on it and provided the drip
"3 of each elemental recruiter"........ except Flying Kamakiri #1 I guess lol. poor Wind monsters
edi: 1:00:15 you caught it! and came to the right conclusion probably :P
Im unreasonably excited for this
The cube is up on YGOProDeck as well, after playing with a group of 4, I HIGHLY Recommend yall play this cube.
I think a goat format with anime cards would be kinda cool, like adding battle of legend themed cards.
WHERE'S FLYING KAMAKIRI RJ
With all the decent wind targets lol
@@TheRJB0 I know the pain, I had to jump through hoops to rationalize having FK#1 in my DM+GX cube, but I really wanted the aesthetic consistency of having every attribute of the MRL recruiters.
If you add in Hand of Nephthys (keep both Sacred Phoenixes?), Twin-Headed Behemoth, and maybe Shield Wing for the 5Ds-iness, it's got a bit more of a case. Turbo Synchron is kinda funny. Lady Ninja Yae is a ninja card that's a FK#1 target and can turn "I will attack the bug" into "oh wait I might lose next turn", also kinda funny. Your targets in the cube now are Quickdraw, Debris, Bestiari, Spore, so you probably only need a couple more (maybe keep Psi-Blocker?)
Excited to listen through this, your first video ignited some passion to explore these alternate formats. Created a cube irl riffing on a cube I found on ygoprodecks and drafted it with my friends and roommates who don't play much. It was so much fun, I'm excited to explore this type of format more! Keep up the great content
This is great! I have recently been deliberating how to condense my collection of cards, and it all makes sense now.
Good stuff! I'm a Magic player that was feeling nostalgic about the years I played YGO, and I absolutely love Cubing, so this is definitely something I'll be looking to copy once the quantities have been ironed out a little further :D Subbed in hopes of seeing more Cube content!
Love to see this come together!
31:46 I suggest torque tune gear for the union. Lvl 1 tuner. Light machine. Union. Makes whatever its equipped a tuner. Not too busted. And you can summon it with shining angel. Search with neutron, etc.
Oh that's kinda cute actually
the FABLED edison cube?? doug zeeff will be overjoyed
nah but fr im 100% here for the cube content
Love drafting and would love to see other contents about it!
Finally got through watching, and it's got a ton of good insight so tysm! I definitely wanna make my own cube, thinking about somewhere in the xyz era with pendulum stuff splashed in 💖
Amazing vid, love the passion! Got a lot of ideas to consider for the draft I’m working on.
Most fun ive had playing yugioh is playing cube at 2 am with friends. Prospect of an edison cube is so exciting. Thank you for your hard work and thank you for sharing
I know I'm late to the party, but after watching the plant section I couldn't not recommend adding the rest of the plant pricesses. Chirubimé, Mariña and Talaya alongside Tytannial are great cards to summon out of lonfire and myracle fertilizer, and if you build around them you can actually get a pretty cool plant control strategy going on.
i just played this cube with my friends and didnt even realize it was yours. We had a blast!
this is my favorite thing ever 😭
Really cool box, it seems fun to play
Note about the video which should be a quick fix, a lot of the time stamps in the description ended up with the wrong hour timer, which causes them to not work since they go beyond the video length.
THAT'S IT
I've been wracking my brain trying to figure out what's wrong and it turns out I was using the DaVinci Resolve timestamps, which add an hour
I've built a Middle School Yu-Gi-Oh! (2008-2014) cube and a lot of the ideas carry over, though rather than feeling like edison it feels more like 5Ds/Zexal Prog Playoffs
PLEASE MORE CUBE CONTENT
SO SICK!! I loved this video! I am making a no tribute cube with cards like fiendish engine omega, Diablos, king of the abyss, super-ancient dinobeast, pot of the forbidden, and other bosses that would never see play otherwise (very much like junior journey). Plus this cube is probably the only time ever UFOroid has ever been playable. Thank you for the inspiration and the the in depth explanation of your choices in this cube! It has helped me a lot!
also who can forget golden homunculus (for some reason summonable off of shining angel)
also the best card to ever be summoned off of UFOroid - Goldilocks the Battle Landscaper
Have you considered adding a few normals and unexpected dai? Considering most arquetypes have a normal monster. The extra body for synchros, tribute fodder, fusions. Suggesting gene warped warwolf first. As it was mentioned in video, but alien shocktropper, gb andal, e hero sparkman for the meme, x-saber anu piranha, genex controller as a lv3 dark tuner. There's certainly a lot that it enables.
Ooh! Good thought!
Angel trumpeter as a level 4 vanilla 1900 plant tuner would be super strong in that case
@@TheRJB0 I did the same thing in my massive cube. Along with a few copies each of the 2000 ATK normal monsters, Magicalibra and Hallohallo are perfect targets for Unexpected Dai to facilitate Synchro Summoning as well as potential pendulum summoning if you draft the scales
I really enjoy the way you balance your cube with multiples vs one of's. Also I find it's hard to find any ygo in portland. If I ever meet you let's draft!
First off, great video, excited to see more cube content.
I know you said you're not a huge fan of Gladiator Beasts, but if you decide to keep them in moving forward, I have some suggestions from their post 5D’s support.
-Gladiator Beast Noxious protects you from a direct attack, sets up the graveyard for a Darius play, and is able to tag out immediately afterwards. He can also be used in a non-GB deck as a worse Battle Fader that leaves a Level 5 body on the board.
-Gladiator Beast Sagittarii is a good payoff if you’re leaning heavily into the GB strat, essentially being an in-archetype Allure of Darkness in the form of a monster.
-Gladiator Naumachia is a very bad piece of support they received in the VRAINS era, but I still wanted to mention it. It allows the deck to beat over monsters with high attack without going into a fusion, and if you’re desperate for a tag out, you can pop it yourself to make your Glads indestructible by battle this turn. It does require some weird set ups or is straight up just a -1, so I’m not sure if it’s worth it. On the other hand though, turning Hoplomus into a 3100 attack beater sounds hilarious.
Strong wind also gains half the attack of a dragon tributes to summon him.
Oh hell yeah, we're gonna have to draft this together sometime
Yes! I want to have a draft party with you and Gavin so much!
i think you should consider "the phantom knights of lost vambrace" as a non-edison card to add to the cube. it's a battle trick, level manipulation to disrupt OR assist with synchro plays, a free body to use for tribute fodder, is essentially a battle fader in the case of a direct attack, and can even be reused with cards like mist valley falcon and genex ally birdman. the multitude of different ways you can use this card has very edison energy to it, but could potentially prove to be too strong at any more than 2.
other interesting non-edison cards are:
- transmission gear: mostly a meme, but has geniune benefits over dimensional prison
- condemned witch: being able to search any forbidden quick play and tutor out a level 4 fairy to respond to your opponent's plays is excellent utility. the amount of interaction this one card provides is peak edison.
- juragedo: a personal favorite card of mine. the 1000 LP gain actually matters in slower formats like limited, and can be reused with the effects of cards like mist valley falcon if you're desperate. the ability to special summon itself during the battle phase to immediately start putting on offense pressure combined with the honest-esque ATK boost it can grant to other monsters makes it extremely versatile, but also potentially too powerful.
- seleglare the luminous lunar dragon: another monarch-esque monster, but the ability to temporarily steal monsters during either player's turn and return itself to the hand for future use brings it to a whole new level. the lower stat line it's given from being normal summoned still isn't even that bad, given that it can still run over all of the recruiters.
- speedroid tri-eyed dice: it's basically necro gardna 2. it can be retrieved off of flying kamakiri, sent to the GY as cost for machina fortress, and be used as a tuner for level 7 synchro plays.
- lullaby of obedience: it's very funny
I love the idea and cubes in general, I would love to have a yugioh cube draft, I would probably keep it mostly singleton and reserve multiples for things like polymerization
Hey RJ, thanks for sharing your list! Looking forward to seeing some more cube content in the future, thanks for highlighting this frankly underrepresented side of Yu-Gi-Oh.
Aliens are cool, and having another light focused deck that's not machines or lightsworns is something I should look into.
I LOVE the addition of Hanzo into Nephthys, blackwings or a dragon. So cool! I'm already running armed, crimson, Sasuke, and strike ninjas in my cube so that's a great inclusion I shall be using.
I will say it may be worth putting in a few more silly meme cards like exchange, or one day of peace, or maybe putting in a REALLY off the wall style of deck like PACMAN/Flip control/diamond dude/convulsion of nature control (with all those trunades resetting your spells maybe?).
My water strat is legendary ocean and 5/7 star beaters as well as Umi payoffs.
5 HYDROGEDDONS/VOLC SHELLS IS SICK!
But yeah, thanks for the video 😁
Yoooo maybe not PACMAN, but Worms could be sick, and Ordeal of a Traveler or Fairy Box would be hilarious
I think an interesting thing to do using this philosophy would be to make like, What If lists for certain eras. Like, do the end of GX (taking the banlist of the time into account of course) and then just... not putting in DAD and see what comes out of it.
This is INCREDIBLE! Have you considered trying out 'rarities' i.e. several separated pools of cards that have different numbers in the pack (e.g. each pack gets 2 random cards from the rares, 3 random cards from the uncommons, and 8 random cards from the commons, as well as 1 super)? It might help control ratios well on top of modified numbers of each card, and let you make sure 'build around' cards appear at the proper frequency while 'glue' cards are freely available in every pack.
It would also let you give extra deck monsters an allocated slot in each pack and create a push-pull tension: you can draft fewer of them or intentionally go into a non-extra deck, to maximize the card quality of your main deck, OR you can sacrifice both card quality and card choices for the main deck to increase the toolbox and ceiling capabilities of your extra. IMO one or two extra deck slots in each pack is a good idea - MTG draft formats have done similar things with snow lands, dual lands etc and it leads to interesting drafting and gameplay (i.e. the suggestion has been vetted by the best haha)
Thx !!!
This is a really cool idea, but I'm a monster and as soon as you mentioned the one-Malicious thing, I decided that a cube that is entirely tricks to trip up the players would be Very Funny (though I feel like it would only get used once per player)
I was gonna say it'd be interesting to have necroface gren maju stuff in here after the dimensional alchemists and bazoos then I saw 4 copies of gold sarc
First off, love your video! I have been building my own cubes for a while now and it is sooo rewarding and I love to see others doing the same! But i do have 1 question, A card like Underworld Fighter Balmung came out in Judgment of the Light a Zexal Era set, is it in just because its a Synchro? Just wondering. Thanks anyways for the video!
Like a lot of cards in this cube, Balmung is in there to help create a deck building and gameplay environment that has the flexibility, mechanics, and power level of Edison while encouraging players to build decks that never existed before. Junk Synchron and Fishborg Blaster, for example, are fantastic at making Lv 4 synchros, so we added Balmung as a build around for those cards. Even though it's from outside Edison's card pool, it helps bring the power level up to Edison's, and make some iconic Edison cards shine.
Will you eventually drop the full list of this Edison cube? I have a cube myself but in mine all monsters are all types. (Ex: lonefire blossom Eff to bring obelisk. Go to battle atk and during damage step drop limiter removal). It’s fun but would like to build an Edison cube and yours looks really fun
Needs more Copycat 😀
Flying Kamakiri #1 into Armed Dragon LV3 or Twin-Headed Behemoth, maybe even Yata-Garasu?
Junior Journey cube next!
RIP wind attribute representation
the issue when adding playsets and archetypes to cubes, is people just end up drafting the archetypes and creating the same decks with similar monster engines.
As a magic player at one point I tried making a yugioh cube. It didn't really work because people couldn't get their engines going. Whoever got the best start won, they summoned a big monster and just beast stick the other player.
Hi RJ looks like the chapter timestamps are broken, I think there might be a space after 1:51 on the zombie chapter
I love yugioh cube I have been trying to build mine so far I have made with lots of classic cards with lots of chaos too my cube is singleton I'm wanting to try the ihizu fairy and bystials to kinda of punish mill and graveyard set up decks and singles of them don't seem that powerful
In the event that you don't have enough players to draft, how might you do Sealed with this Cube? i.e. Give each player a randomized 60 cards with which to build a deck with. Curious what number you might do, or if you think a YGO Cube doesn't work without the drafting element.
Really sick, I wanna run a cube based on the weird limited environment my friends and I played when we were in middle school and early high school. Is there a way to facilitate a cube draft online?
Absolutely! It's on YGOProDeck.com
Hey what is the "bayou" strategy that you mentioned when talking about Blackwing - Sirocco the Dawn?
How much time did you put in to get the cube to its current state?
Was it weeks? Months?
Tough question to answer. A lot of the stuff I had in there I already owned. The rest either came from a day of desperate scouring of bulk boxes at my OTS and Keegan coming through.
Any idea how much the cube would cost for all those cards at cheapest versions? Even any type of ballpark estimate would be great. Are we talking like $300 or $1000 USD?
Nice job.
Btw, how many cards are in that cube? (Main deck monsters, spells, traps and extra deck cards)
SO MANY. I think a good 600
@@TheRJB0 So cube for how many people? How many main deck monsters, spell, traps and and extra deck monsters?
@@MiskoM4 Oh I have absolutely no clue about M/S/T ratios. I'd literally have to watch this video back and count them. As for players, it's built to support up to 8 players taking 75 cards with a little extra room for variety.
How do you play cube? I want to play a GX and DM cube with my brother and cousin on thanksgiving cause we live old school yugioh
My previous video is an overview on playing cube!
where is the video where you draft from the cube? I can't find it
How many players would you reccommend for this cube?
This cube probably works best for four people. It can theoretically be used with 2-8 though.
Did you run into people trying to draft the same deck? Like 2 people trying to draft lightsworns and just... both getting half a deck?
That wasn't a problem for our draft, but I could see it being a problem. We as players seemed to all be in agreement that roughly the way to go with drafting was to start general and get more specific over time, taking cards that were necessary for the strat first, and then getting more focused. There were a couple things I'd start to make but someone got most of it so I stopped, but we didn't have any decks get split in half.
Did you never update the list in the description.
3 of each of the elemental recruiters... the f*** is a wind monster?
What is cube can someone explain
I have a video explaining cube draft on the channel!
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I loved the cube but personally I would want the cube to be entirely singleton( 1 copy of each card) for two reasons, 1it makes the draft more easily readable as each card in it it unique and if you pass a card you know you won't get another copy of it, and 2. it gives cubes the ability to play more sub-optimal cards that never saw their case in the sun because of similar, but better cards and letting people pop off with the,
That's valid. I don't like singleton for Yugioh because it makes decks that don't have the flow of Yugioh. It's harder to build a cohesive game plan when your cards are all one ofs and the games can feel clunky. I think there's room for cards that didn't see meta play even in a non-singleton cube as long as you vary the numbers to favor combo access over payoffs.
@@TheRJB0 I do really get that reasoning, Perhaps it's really hard to do a YGO singleton cube that still lets decks show off archetypal synergies, I assume players make 30 card decks rather than the full 40Ð