Thanks for the great vid. I bought the tool from Tyler and while it may seem expensive for a one time use, it is worth every penny. I ended up replacing both the primary and secondary pumps/senders. I can’t imagine how much effort it would be to re-seat the retaining ring without it. The rings were too tightly seated to use the tool without encouragement of a flat paver chisel at the weld on the base of the handle. This was especially necessary to re-seat the dimple on the ring to the center of the retainer. It may not have been necessary but it made me feel better.
Grrrrrr. I just had to have my fuel pump exchanged - I mean check engine light and the car turned off - and it cost me $935. I could have done this myself. This looks easy. I probably would have been too afraid... but this looks like I could do it myself and the assembly only cost $350 online. Great video. Clear and detailed. Love it.
Leonardo Brambilla I’m glad you enjoyed it. So much easier on the s197 than my new edge mustangs. You’ll see my install video on my mach 1 and I had to drop the tank and everything.
Great video! Do you have a video for the replacement of the fuel sending unit? Ford recommends replacing both at the same time. 2012 ford mustang V6 3.7L engine. The schematics show a dual fuel system for the gas tank. Thanks.
Danny , my 3v fuel trip out and I replace the fuel pump, sending level as well, and fuel pressure as well. I am still having issue with it. Any suggestions?
So is there two fuel pumps? Or is this driver’s side one the one that matters most? Think I need to replace mine really soon, as the car will sometimes sputter and have a little trouble turning over.
I just changed my fuel pump in my 2006 Mustang. Even with a full tank of fuel, I’m getting the DTE FLI DATA ERR just as you did on your dash. Is there something I did wrong or something that needs to be reset? I did remove the net battery terminal to reset the system but I’m getting a check engine light along with the ERR message and the codes show issues with the sending unit. Did I mess something up here? Thanks.
@@74Fox after 3 replacement pumps, got sick of dealing with it and ponied up for an OEM pump. All problems were solved. Never again will I use aftermarket components for critical applications. Had the same issue with alternators and the fuel pressure sensor. Always go OEM on critical components. You will save a lot of time and aggravation. The good news is I am now able to change a fuel pump in about 20 minutes and an alternator in 15 on my mustang. Lol
Hey, nice video. Any chance you know what that fuel sending unit attached to the side of the pump is called exactly? The hose you removed when taking it out. That siphons gas from the other side of the tank, right? Since its saddle shaped. I replaced the pump in my car but it only uses the drivers side of the gas tank while the passenger side of the gas tank remains unused. I look in the tank itself, the driver side is empty but the passenger side of brimming with gas.
hey i have the exact same issue. im getting no fuel to the drivers side from the passengers side. its like having an 8 gallon tank no fun thanks if you ever find out anything
deansfixitrightfirst eventually I ended up finding that it was just a faulty fuel pump on the drivers side. Even then, I decided to replace the crossover tube with a similar tube and the connectors as well. I got them from napa. I had originally bought a fuel pump to fix the issue but my luck got me a bad one delivered but I got one from rockauto and theirs worked just fine. I also replaced my fuel pump fuse in the fuse box under the hood it thats any help
@@leobenitez8275 hey thanks for the reply so you think it was because the fuel pump isnt strong enough to siphon the gas from the passengers side The car seems to run pretty good so im still at a loss
I can’t give you a definite answer for sure. That just happened to be the case for my mustang. First the car just would start at all with original fuel pump. Then I went to partsgeeks for a fuel pump because I was tight on cash and it worked for a bit as I put some gas in but even though it worked the gas gauge still read weirdly. It would read halfway full or completely empty, it was because my driver side tank was almost empty so it was trying to read the gas from that side but also trying to read the passenger side which was full so the gauage would transition from halfway full to empty. I then let the car sit for a year feeling defeated. It felt fine driving it with that fuel pump but then I got to work on the car again and for some reason the siphon on that fuel pump to get gas from the passenger side didnt work. My guess would be that partsgeek sells refurbished parts or something since they are so cheap. Regardless of all that, Rockauto is well known so i bought from their and that siphoned has worked just fine. Im no expert though, so good luck with your fix. This is just my experience with the mustang. I also has to replace the battery around the same time if that helps.
I was told by the shop that the metal ring was rusted out and failed and is integrated into the fuel tank so the entire tank needs to be replaced. Am I getting ripped off?
@@dannyjohnsonsgarage was planning on taking my mustang to Daytona this weekend so I was hoping for the quick fix but looking at it myself it looked nothing like what you showed in the video. It was pretty bad but I was hoping for the quick fix so I could get it on track and after they looked at it they said I’d need a new tank and new everything except for fuel pump and sending unit and it’s going to take 3-4 days and about 1100 dollars. The metal integrated into the tank is what mostly confused me because I thought the tank was all plastic and the only metal was the locking ring.
Do you know of or anything about the secondary/ lifter fuel pump in the 2005 I'm trying to find information on fixing mine is where it is and how you fix it also buying parts for it is an issue due to not knowing the exact name of the parts lol
@@deansfixitrightfirst nope car had to be trashed the wore harness got some water in it and nothing I fixed or changed out would fix the stalling/no gas moving to the motor great car down the drain
I’m glad you found it. Here is my playlist for other s197 videos if you want to check them out 😉. th-cam.com/play/PLIjr-uSYDZi5yZnyq-RGsrlF-3TTBiJGF.html
my 2006 v6 mustang just died on me :c when I crank it up it sounds like a hot rod cam/Major missfire. Then died in 5 seconds. If its spark. It should idle a little bit longer correct?
@@dannyjohnsonsgarage Hey would codes p0442 p0457 p0455 make my car sound like its cammed and dies out within 10 seconds of starting. Those are the only codes that show up on my car :L. I basicly turned a corner and my car died. and when i try to start it. it sounds cammed then dies in a few seconds. Any ideas?
My god the Ford engineers who designed some of these things. First was the oil filter adapter that had coolant running through it. Leaking gasket? Drain the coolant. Then this cluster. Everything was going "ok" until I had to disconnect the fuel line going to the sender (passenger side) in the tank. IT WAS STUCK. The green button would depress, but the connector WOULD NOT BUDGE. I had to apply leverage with a screen driver and really lean on it for it to budget. Once I got it moving, then I was able to depress the green button and remove it. Turns out the entire plastic nipple was coated with something sticky and it was just not going to let that connector go. This is a 15 minute job that poor engineering and questionable assembly turned into an hour.
mine was a bitch to put back on...I ended up shaving the retaining lock ring to be able to reinstall....the tool you used would have been nice to rent from local parts tools but theirs didnt work...:
Thanks for the great vid. I bought the tool from Tyler and while it may seem expensive for a one time use, it is worth every penny. I ended up replacing both the primary and secondary pumps/senders. I can’t imagine how much effort it would be to re-seat the retaining ring without it. The rings were too tightly seated to use the tool without encouragement of a flat paver chisel at the weld on the base of the handle. This was especially necessary to re-seat the dimple on the ring to the center of the retainer. It may not have been necessary but it made me feel better.
Grrrrrr. I just had to have my fuel pump exchanged - I mean check engine light and the car turned off - and it cost me $935. I could have done this myself. This looks easy. I probably would have been too afraid... but this looks like I could do it myself and the assembly only cost $350 online. Great video. Clear and detailed. Love it.
$935!? They ripped you off big time! That's a 30 min job..
I know a guy would do it for 1 dollars 💵
Wow well explain buddy thank you again. People like you who make a difference.
Germain Alarie Thank you! I’m glad the video was worthwhile for you!
Fantastic guide. Great idea with the ring removal tool. Been looking for a guide like this for a while now.
thanks for watching!
Fantastic video, that was a great explanation. Thanks a lot for sharing this.
Leonardo Brambilla I’m glad you enjoyed it. So much easier on the s197 than my new edge mustangs. You’ll see my install video on my mach 1 and I had to drop the tank and everything.
You can use a gooseneck pry bar to hold down the fuel pump lid while a friend closes the locking ring. Worked well for me without a special tool.
Great video! Do you have a video for the replacement of the fuel sending unit? Ford recommends replacing both at the same time. 2012 ford mustang V6 3.7L engine. The schematics show a dual fuel system for the gas tank. Thanks.
I have one on the G35. Should be the same process th-cam.com/video/fkXHmQGW1sM/w-d-xo.html
My sending unit isn't working but the pump is fine should I still buy the whole thing ?
Ulises M I would
I have 2007 mustangv6 4.o liter, are both pumps the same on the left and right side because I can't find anything on the passenger side pump
Danny , my 3v fuel trip out and I replace the fuel pump, sending level as well, and fuel pressure as well. I am still having issue with it. Any suggestions?
So is there two fuel pumps? Or is this driver’s side one the one that matters most? Think I need to replace mine really soon, as the car will sometimes sputter and have a little trouble turning over.
It's only on the driver side.
I just changed my fuel pump in my 2006 Mustang. Even with a full tank of fuel, I’m getting the DTE FLI DATA ERR just as you did on your dash.
Is there something I did wrong or something that needs to be reset? I did remove the net battery terminal to reset the system but I’m getting a check engine light along with the ERR message and the codes show issues with the sending unit.
Did I mess something up here?
Thanks.
Roy Groat did you ever figure it out? I have the same error
David Calvo hi David. I ended up getting another fuel pump assembly as the fuel sender was defective.
@@thetraindoctor4291 did the new 1 fix your issues?
@@74Fox after 3 replacement pumps, got sick of dealing with it and ponied up for an OEM pump. All problems were solved. Never again will I use aftermarket components for critical applications.
Had the same issue with alternators and the fuel pressure sensor. Always go OEM on critical components. You will save a lot of time and aggravation.
The good news is I am now able to change a fuel pump in about 20 minutes and an alternator in 15 on my mustang. Lol
Does the car have more than 1 fuel pump?
Hey , quick question what fuel pump did you go with for this video?
Any tips on getting that first white connector un done?
I got that same text but my gauge is in the second line , do you know what does that mean , thank
How do you know when it goes bad? Sorry, not very mechanical here. And how long are you able to drive while its bad?
It usually won’t run but can work on and off for awhile. You can also get some cutting out under part or full throttle
So the s550 is made the same way?
Captain Kirk Yes. Very easy, should be the same from 2005-present
Hey, nice video. Any chance you know what that fuel sending unit attached to the side of the pump is called exactly? The hose you removed when taking it out. That siphons gas from the other side of the tank, right? Since its saddle shaped. I replaced the pump in my car but it only uses the drivers side of the gas tank while the passenger side of the gas tank remains unused. I look in the tank itself, the driver side is empty but the passenger side of brimming with gas.
hey i have the exact same issue. im getting no fuel to the drivers side from the passengers side. its like having an 8 gallon tank no fun thanks if you ever find out anything
deansfixitrightfirst eventually I ended up finding that it was just a faulty fuel pump on the drivers side. Even then, I decided to replace the crossover tube with a similar tube and the connectors as well. I got them from napa. I had originally bought a fuel pump to fix the issue but my luck got me a bad one delivered but I got one from rockauto and theirs worked just fine. I also replaced my fuel pump fuse in the fuse box under the hood it thats any help
Well by fuel pump i mean fuel pump assembly
@@leobenitez8275 hey thanks for the reply so you think it was because the fuel pump isnt strong enough to siphon the gas from the passengers side The car seems to run pretty good so im still at a loss
I can’t give you a definite answer for sure. That just happened to be the case for my mustang. First the car just would start at all with original fuel pump. Then I went to partsgeeks for a fuel pump because I was tight on cash and it worked for a bit as I put some gas in but even though it worked the gas gauge still read weirdly. It would read halfway full or completely empty, it was because my driver side tank was almost empty so it was trying to read the gas from that side but also trying to read the passenger side which was full so the gauage would transition from halfway full to empty. I then let the car sit for a year feeling defeated. It felt fine driving it with that fuel pump but then I got to work on the car again and for some reason the siphon on that fuel pump to get gas from the passenger side didnt work. My guess would be that partsgeek sells refurbished parts or something since they are so cheap. Regardless of all that, Rockauto is well known so i bought from their and that siphoned has worked just fine. Im no expert though, so good luck with your fix. This is just my experience with the mustang. I also has to replace the battery around the same time if that helps.
Great video looks simple ..do you have to bleed the fuel system after doing this or just simply swap out the pumps and be done thanks
AC 130 just turn the key a few times, start the car and let her run
@@dannyjohnsonsgarage great thanks
Nice vid. Cool tool, I’ll have to get one when I’m ready to do mine. Do you guys have swapped door panels from a 10’-14’
Yes
Danny Johnson Nice how was the install? Is it a straight swap?
is this the same for the 2012? i know it is a s197 like this one
Brandon Yes, same process from what i’ve seen
I was told by the shop that the metal ring was rusted out and failed and is integrated into the fuel tank so the entire tank needs to be replaced. Am I getting ripped off?
It’s possible. I guess it would depend on how bad it is or if they just want more money
@@dannyjohnsonsgarage was planning on taking my mustang to Daytona this weekend so I was hoping for the quick fix but looking at it myself it looked nothing like what you showed in the video. It was pretty bad but I was hoping for the quick fix so I could get it on track and after they looked at it they said I’d need a new tank and new everything except for fuel pump and sending unit and it’s going to take 3-4 days and about 1100 dollars. The metal integrated into the tank is what mostly confused me because I thought the tank was all plastic and the only metal was the locking ring.
@@Stevethe11th the tank has a plastic cover but it is a metal tank all the way around
Danny, how much does the tool cost?
Full Bird I’m not sure what he’s asking, but you can email and ask him at tbmetal197@gmail.com
Free
I can make that tool but how much to purchase one I’m curious if anything
Do you know of or anything about the secondary/ lifter fuel pump in the 2005 I'm trying to find information on fixing mine is where it is and how you fix it also buying parts for it is an issue due to not knowing the exact name of the parts lol
hi did you ever fix yours i have the same issue the pump on the passengers side isnt getting gas to the drivers side main pump. thanks
@@deansfixitrightfirst nope car had to be trashed the wore harness got some water in it and nothing I fixed or changed out would fix the stalling/no gas moving to the motor great car down the drain
@@watchingyoutoo6238 shoot sorry to hear that makes you sick that a great car get trashed
Will this tool work on a 2013 mustang gt?
Probably
although this is about the gas lol what radio is that on the dash
Does the 2014 model have this access?
Andrew Hamilton Yes. I believe it’s the same from 2005-present
This is the same way in a 2010 mustang??
Yes. 2005-2021 even
Great video, very well done. Thank you!
Michael Regan Thanks. I’m glad you liked it
Life saver I appreciate the video
I’m glad you found it. Here is my playlist for other s197 videos if you want to check them out 😉. th-cam.com/play/PLIjr-uSYDZi5yZnyq-RGsrlF-3TTBiJGF.html
How much you charge for this tool?
NooGai808 I’m not sure what he charges, but he’ll let you know if you email him. His email is in the video description
Will this work for a 08 gt500?
yes, it should be the same but with twin pumps I believe
@@dannyjohnsonsgarage thanks man appreciate it.
my 2006 v6 mustang just died on me :c when I crank it up it sounds like a hot rod cam/Major missfire. Then died in 5 seconds. If its spark. It should idle a little bit longer correct?
Correct. It may be the fuel pump sputtering. Or a vacuum leak can do that too
@@dannyjohnsonsgarage Hey would codes p0442 p0457 p0455 make my car sound like its cammed and dies out within 10 seconds of starting. Those are the only codes that show up on my car :L. I basicly turned a corner and my car died. and when i try to start it. it sounds cammed then dies in a few seconds. Any ideas?
Danny Johnson check your throttle position sensor also
SkepticalVex check ur tps sensor
Is the tool still available to buy?
Yes, just email the person in the video description
Mine came with a black ring. Where does this go?
boi If it has the same holes to match up with the snap ring it may be to seal the pump hole area. Is it that size?
Can I still get a tool made
Email my friend. His email is in the video description
My god the Ford engineers who designed some of these things. First was the oil filter adapter that had coolant running through it. Leaking gasket? Drain the coolant. Then this cluster. Everything was going "ok" until I had to disconnect the fuel line going to the sender (passenger side) in the tank. IT WAS STUCK. The green button would depress, but the connector WOULD NOT BUDGE. I had to apply leverage with a screen driver and really lean on it for it to budget. Once I got it moving, then I was able to depress the green button and remove it. Turns out the entire plastic nipple was coated with something sticky and it was just not going to let that connector go.
This is a 15 minute job that poor engineering and questionable assembly turned into an hour.
How much for one if those tools?
email my friend in this video description th-cam.com/video/vNV7iqmbAk0/w-d-xo.html
Where'd you get the unit?
If your talking about the tool, my friend makes them. His email is in the video description
@@dannyjohnsonsgarage The actual pump.
Price??
I should've had one of those tools to get mine out. Would've saved a bunch of time
So why's my mechanic saying he has to remove the exhaust 😐🤦🏾♂️
may not know the trick on 2005+ mustangs. Show him this video. But even on the previous you NEVER need to remove exhaust
mine was a bitch to put back on...I ended up shaving the retaining lock ring to be able to reinstall....the tool you used would have been nice to rent from local parts tools but theirs didnt work...:
I had to fight one on the suburban pump I did. No fun for sure
Flathead and hammer is all u need