Top Overhyped and Overpriced Bourbons & Whiskeys!

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  • So this video has been a long time coming! My
    top overhyped and overpriced bourbons and whiskeys.
    The pricing increases I’m seeing from both liquor stores and on secondary coupled with my own personal
    experiences observing consumers has driven me to make this video...because frankly I’m tired of bourbon drinkers losing their mind over certain brands and paying exorbitant amounts of money to acquire those brands. Enjoy the video!
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  • @MrCoffeekelly
    @MrCoffeekelly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +174

    I'm enjoying my 21 dollar bottle of wild turkey 101 while watching this.

    • @abraham2174
      @abraham2174 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Best to enjoy and safe money.
      It is an 90/100 bourbon
      Value for money 100/100

    • @choch2727
      @choch2727 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's one of my favorites. 👍

    • @ChristianCaseGaming
      @ChristianCaseGaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's gotta be the weakest bourbon ever fighting cock much more smoother + it's 103 proof get me F*cked up faster

    • @lecheff4836
      @lecheff4836 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      solid go to

    • @TheTruth27536
      @TheTruth27536 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@abraham2174 What are some "100" or 100/100 bourbons? Or stuff close to it. I am new to this hobby and looking for suggestions.

  • @leeroyjenkins5208
    @leeroyjenkins5208 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Old Forrester, Wild Turkey, and Knob creek consistently make amazing products at an affordable price. I hardly ever venture away from them

    • @dilbertbert
      @dilbertbert 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Your three examples here are also a good range of flavors that are available in bourbon, throw in a Makers selection for a wheated and you've got an amazing collection.

    • @matthewdohrmann
      @matthewdohrmann ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Knob Creek 9 is a really good whiskey. I love it neat or with coke.

  • @westongarcia3464
    @westongarcia3464 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Holy Sh!t I work at a Total Wine as the spirit professional and that rant about Blantons is so true and unbelievable. Thank you so much for this video one of my favorite whiskey videos I’ve ever seen!

    • @matthewlabbe8395
      @matthewlabbe8395 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      TW&M employee here as well. I have to try so hard to not roll my eyes when i get asked about Blanton's.

    • @real.rigoberto
      @real.rigoberto 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My son and I started laughing our asses off when he got to Blantons. I used to pick these up in Iowa at a HyVee end cap for less than $40!
      I’ve gone through a few and still have 3 on my shelf today but agree 💯! Over hyped and over priced.
      Great video.

    • @Hugh-ds4di
      @Hugh-ds4di หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sounds like a bunch of babies who cant get these at retail. Boo hoo. Blantons is a great pour as well as the Weller vertical

  • @matthewdohrmann
    @matthewdohrmann ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is one of my favorite whiskey videos of all time. It actually might be one of the best videos on TH-cam. It's a master class in speaking truth to stupidity. Jason, thank you for making this video and please make another one like it soon.

  • @Beejmiles
    @Beejmiles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    "If its your pinnacle of collecting... get a new pinnacle." Priceless.

  • @tzipieliezer
    @tzipieliezer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +144

    Thank you for your Blanton’s comments. I had a boss that was a blanton’s drinker. I went to the liquor store across the street from our office on a Friday afternoon after work. I grabbed the last bottle of blantons off the shelf and brought it to the register. The store owner was upset I was taking the last one because my boss always buys them and he was not going to have one for him now. I was so happy.

    • @LukeStonePharmD
      @LukeStonePharmD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I don't know your boss but screw that guy

    • @killerdeviant
      @killerdeviant 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I was at someone’s house that had 7 bottles. I was like thanks dick.

    • @bigorange000
      @bigorange000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Invite him over for a couple drinks. Couldn't hurt.

    • @TheOnion12
      @TheOnion12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Where did you find Blanton’s on the shelf?

    • @Danr07
      @Danr07 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      David Luckett 🤣🤣🤣

  • @timmsass
    @timmsass 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Love it. Not a 4Roses, Turkey, or Knob Creek product to be found. Well done.

  • @3frogltd987
    @3frogltd987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Love this video, I fully agree that there is so much great bourbon to be had for under $100. Bought my last bottle of Blanton's 5 yrs ago for $50, good but not killer IMO. I refilled the bottle with a better tasting bourbon, my friends can't understand why my Blanton's taste so much better. LOL!

  • @gregmartin1757
    @gregmartin1757 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Testify bro. Way to tell it like it is .you are 100% on the money . Think alot us feel the same about most
    Of the bottles here.

  • @gobigparts
    @gobigparts 3 ปีที่แล้ว +187

    I love Knob Creek, Old Forestor and Wild Turkey products that can be had for under $50.

    • @MrEnvirocat
      @MrEnvirocat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Totally with you on those choices.

    • @BenDover-ie1ud
      @BenDover-ie1ud 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +1

    • @taylorb7191
      @taylorb7191 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      100%

    • @joshuabaca6257
      @joshuabaca6257 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Knob creek is over priced

    • @BenDover-ie1ud
      @BenDover-ie1ud 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Joshua Baca how much is it where you are? $25 in Texas.

  • @adamcompton4031
    @adamcompton4031 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    as a liquor store employee who watches adults lose their damn minds over Blanton's when it comes in (or doesn't)- thank you for this. People fought over it at my store a few weeks ago and wound up breaking the bottle.

    • @benjaminwagner8141
      @benjaminwagner8141 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly never heard of it until I started getting into bourbon.
      Not sure if that's good or bad

    • @dhkim3986
      @dhkim3986 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pathetic that they're fighting over a Blanton's. Plenty of better bottles to fight over. =)

    • @CharlieSpecter
      @CharlieSpecter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Blantons is good if you buy at the suggested price of $60. I see some liquor stores charging $199 for it (not worth it at that price)

    • @guy554
      @guy554 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I feel your pain. I don't know if it's more sad or more annoying. Even after they buy them all or none come in, they're still a different level of Karen.

    • @gregg9448
      @gregg9448 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Did you make them both pay for half the bottle?

  • @m13thompson13
    @m13thompson13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    I started collecting around this time last year. Ended up with about fifty entries in my local shop's Black Friday drawing, and alongside my wife, won both a Van Winkle 12 and a Weller 12, for which we paid $110 and $35 respectively.
    I only knew the MSRPs on the bottles at the time; it wasn't until much later that I learned what they can go for on secondary. Regardless, I felt really proud of myself on the day we finally uncorked the VW12 and I decided that I genuinely prefer regular old Buffalo Trace to it.
    Don't really care what it costs, or what people think it should cost... If you don't actually enjoy it as much as a cheaper alternative, what's the point? Drink what you like!

    • @uncledeadhead3674
      @uncledeadhead3674 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      did the taste of the bourbon magically change to much worse since it cost less? no. hmm but why does it change then if it costs more? ( not aimed at you)

    • @clintwestwood1895
      @clintwestwood1895 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Exactly! For some reason I am crazy about plain Buffalo Trace. I read that the Legendary Frank Sinatra was buried with a bottle of "Jack Daniels" , I told my big brother Jody that I want to be buried with a bottle of Buffalo Trace.. and I was serious.

    • @lecheff4836
      @lecheff4836 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This has been true for many boubons/ scotches for myself as well, Dalmore cigar malt was a meh $155 and i preferred Cask strength Makers mark 1/2 the price

    • @manhattan7055
      @manhattan7055 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lecheff4836 If you can still find it "Thee" Dalmore to have is the 1999 Cask Strength independent bottling from Alexander Murray, should be under 120$. Proper representation of what the cigar malt brand should have been.

  • @bourbonapprentice
    @bourbonapprentice 3 ปีที่แล้ว +236

    This is my favorite god damn video you’ve ever done. No, this is the best video I’ve ever seen! Crushed it! The hate for Whistle Pig pricing is REAL! You’re awesome!
    I’d love to see you top bourbons and ryes that ARE worth it too, though!
    Strong work Jason!!

    • @bethhiggins1907
      @bethhiggins1907 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He needs to hit some more. I agree, the best yet.

    • @HotButteryRolls
      @HotButteryRolls 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agreed with every one. He didn’t pull any punches.

    • @paulbovis1277
      @paulbovis1277 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Whistle Pig 10 Year makes me the maddest of all. The stuff originated from my home province of Alberta, they stick it in a different bottle and charge $120 CAD for it. Ridiculous. From the same distillery, you can get Alberta Premium Cask Strength 100% Rye for $65. Their 20 Year (admittedly below 90 Proof) if $75. They even had an affordable 30 Year a while back. No way.

    • @leeniemann7955
      @leeniemann7955 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@paulbovis1277 the only one that i prefer is single barrel cask strength store picks, some are even Mgp. Not bad if you can find them around $80-90 range in age from 10-13 yrs old, even though the bottle says 10 yr on it. This was the rye that kept searching for more ryes. The only other one the comes close to it in taste is the Old Redemption ryes that have yellow labels and wax tops. Those are in same price range to $85-100. The newer versions aren't the same or worth the price.

    • @paulbovis1277
      @paulbovis1277 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@leeniemann7955 Thanks for the reply! We only have the newer redemption rye's in Alberta. I may lay out the $100-120CAD for the base Whistle Pig offering just once, so I can see for myself if it is worth the high price tag. Store picks of any American products are very hard to come by in Canada as a whole although they do come along from time to time.

  • @kayoko1954
    @kayoko1954 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Your whole bit about Blantons and it’s customers was 100% on point. I’ve been in liquor retail for over 13 years, just only 6 years ago, cases of Blantons were just sitting on the shelf, and then all of a sudden.......

    • @gallagher68
      @gallagher68 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Marketing and all of these damn 'influencers' that are paid to hype things

    • @TheMjphoto45
      @TheMjphoto45 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Called marketing

  • @scottythebody0811
    @scottythebody0811 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Great video! You nailed it. Blanton’s is good, but I’ll take Old Forester 1920 ALL DAY OVER BLANTON’S!

    • @rurugby
      @rurugby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      By a mile. Also Dickel BIB, Maker's Mark Cask Strength and Four Roses Single Barrel for less than $50.

  • @williambedard4375
    @williambedard4375 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the videos man. Always informative, honest, and entertaining. Shout out to all the other channels which ive seen you appear on as well thanks for expanding the already wonderful community.

  • @KennethRathburn
    @KennethRathburn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Love seeing Jason get frustrated and swearing, basically venting our frustrations.

  • @TheMashandDrum
    @TheMashandDrum  3 ปีที่แล้ว +151

    Thanks for all the positive feedback everyone!

    • @yugen
      @yugen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This was a fun video, glad to see you didn't hold back.

    • @ConstitutionalFreedomFighter
      @ConstitutionalFreedomFighter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree with your pricing nearly 100%. I have a good collection of Weller, Blantons and Pappy. They are my go to drinkers. Lucky for me I started collecting them before it was the in thing to do. I have 2 Weller SR, 5 Weller Antique 107, 2 Weller 12, all squat bottles and none cost over $32. I did just pickup 3 Weller FP at $49.95 each. 6 Blantons on the shelf $54 each. 4 ORVW @ $200 each (too much). GTS $200 (really good) and a WLW 2019 $99. I could never afford them at the current secondary pricing. Maybe I should start selling LOL.

    • @ajwhitfield5793
      @ajwhitfield5793 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ConstitutionalFreedomFighter why? They are majority label hype, the juice itself is mediocre.

    • @ConstitutionalFreedomFighter
      @ConstitutionalFreedomFighter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ajwhitfield5793 You drink your whiskey with your tastebuds and I'll drink mine with my tastebuds.

    • @RafikiafReKo
      @RafikiafReKo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I got to try the Papi-series for free, my head exploded when I found out the price

  • @DavePruett
    @DavePruett 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I so appreciate your honest, straightforward analysis and ability to put things in the context of the overall market.

  • @stevesalsbury4876
    @stevesalsbury4876 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome piece of consumer reporting, straight from the heart! Alex and I especially loved the last part on Blanton's - the bane of our existence in the retail world. Thanks so much, dude!

  • @kiwiwanderingusa9988
    @kiwiwanderingusa9988 3 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    As I have told several liquor store managers: I will never, NEVER pay Scotch prices for bourbon. There is such a lack of integrity in the bourbon world. If those wonderful Scotsman can sit on barrels for 10 years before charging $40-50 for it, then why would I pay more for 4 year old bourbon that is often MGB.

    • @matthewgabbard6415
      @matthewgabbard6415 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I understand what you're saying, but Bourbon matures much faster because of the hot, humid Ky Summers. Also the new charred oak imparts all that intense vanilla, caramel in shorter time. Scotland maintains a pretty even climate, and the used barrels take more time

    • @kiwiwanderingusa9988
      @kiwiwanderingusa9988 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@matthewgabbard6415 granted, but bourbon also has only a fraction of the possible flavour profiles that Scotch can attain. I've never understood people who pay over $100 for bourbon. The law of diminishing returns kicks in hard after $60, in my opinion.

    • @sggjose
      @sggjose 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I get your sentiment, but your statement shows a lack of understanding of barrel types and how aging works. That said, I agree w/ the sentiment and the gist of what you're saying.

    • @enricojaun2880
      @enricojaun2880 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @kiwi I know next to nothing about scotch other than i find peated stuff revolting. Do you have any recommendations of stuff to try? Looking to broaden my palate, but canadian and irish have so far not impressed me.

    • @kiwiwanderingusa9988
      @kiwiwanderingusa9988 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@sggjose I do understand that bourbon by law, has to be new oak and that Scotch doesn't. I also understand warm weather speeds up the results, which is why I'm a big fan of Amruts' products from India. My main point is that the possibilities of flavour profiles for bourbon are severely limited as opposed to Scotch.

  • @moose7611
    @moose7611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Video of the year. I am only buying $60 and under this year. The rest are just flashes in the pan.

    • @prestonorrick3498
      @prestonorrick3498 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rare Breed is the best I've had under the $50 range. Old Grand Dad 114 is fantastic under $30. Evan Williams Single Barrel is a real winner under $30 as well.

  • @richfoster6677
    @richfoster6677 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this video, had to watch again....absolutely love your style and honesty....this vid nailed it for me!! I have watched some of your other vids as well. Keep up the good work.

  • @jonlouis2582
    @jonlouis2582 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I couldn't agree more. I work in a large liquor store and all the bratty bourbon shoppers made me personally switch to scotch.

  • @SuperClydeJ
    @SuperClydeJ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Hunting for Blanton’s is the new Bennie Baby craze from the late 90’s!

    • @Fanta....
      @Fanta.... 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Here in Australia you can get it quite readily. We even have Straight from the Barrel whichI believe you can only get here and two other places. Im yet to try but costs the equiv of 120usd. mine are 129.6 proof.

    • @chrisgee3197
      @chrisgee3197 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Five years ago I was buying Blanton’s at the Pa state store for about $55, and now it’s as if the next Pappy. It’s my favorite bourbon, and hardly ever drink it anymore.

    • @bluebloodsoff-road8658
      @bluebloodsoff-road8658 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Unless you live in Kentucky & already had several bottles before the stupid John Wick movies made it harder to get.

    • @jonathanrodriguez3330
      @jonathanrodriguez3330 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can’t find it anywhere this sucks

    • @kudukilla
      @kudukilla 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My favorite; once upon a time I could look through the stock on the shelf to pick out the stopper I needed for my collection.

  • @trumpetplayification
    @trumpetplayification 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    As far as everything I’ve had on this list, I agree. It would be cool to see an inverse of this video. Every once in a while you said what you would buy instead, but I would love to see an Underhyped video.

    • @asko2677
      @asko2677 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He has a video on best-priced bourbons in all price categories, under $20, $20-30, $30-40, $40+. It might answer your inquiry?

    • @tjwright
      @tjwright 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I like the under-hyped stuff staying that way. If one of my favorites suddenly became the next Blanton's I'd be pissed. I like 'em easy to find and not breaking the bank, and they can stay that way!!

  • @andrewwilson3039
    @andrewwilson3039 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is the first TH-cam comment I've ever written. This video was amazing. Long live the ECBPs, Knob Creek and Russell's Reserve Barrel Picks. Belle Meade Cask Strength too!

  • @brianlang429
    @brianlang429 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    "Drinking unicorn tears" roflmao

  • @dustydanswhiskeyreviews739
    @dustydanswhiskeyreviews739 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is why..... Let's all say it.... This is the best whiskey review channel on TH-cam!!! This was absolutely amazing and probably my favorite episode by far. Cheers J

  • @wildlifewhiskey3636
    @wildlifewhiskey3636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    "because its mostly freakin water" these rants were great... Cheers bud

    • @kevinricketts1248
      @kevinricketts1248 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I guess you can say that about any bourbon under 100 proof.
      Or any bourbon that gets mixed with ice.

    • @grahamhannah2108
      @grahamhannah2108 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was in my local store looking at their various bourbon choices when one of the store salesman approached me and asked if I wanted to enter their lottery for a “chance” to buy Pappy’s.
      I said there is no freaking way I’m going to pay that kind of price for something that overhyped.
      I did notice they had a Maker’s Private Select that was a store pick called “Spicy Lips” and they were asking $75 for it.
      I got it and it was worth every penny, and for a wheated bourbon I would rather pay for Makers Private Select than a Pappy’ any day.

    • @geneelam9530
      @geneelam9530 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As a store clerk I can vouch for the temper tantrums individuals throw when they cannot get there unicorn bottle and then to find out they have a freakin bunker of it at home already 😒

    • @tomchipego
      @tomchipego 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@geneelam9530 omg Gene you are so right, it really really pisses me off. Bourbon county variants, black Friday. I would like to get 1 of each of possible. I'm in line and these 2 ass holes in front of me are takling about the OTHER store they visited earlier. 1 was bragging how the last store did not have a limit and they had 3 boxes of variants. He bought 2 of the 3, and the guy behind him bought the other. No 1 else in line got 1 and he was still buying more. I just can't take it, it really making me hate people. Bourbon is just as bad. Pennsylvania sells out of their sales within minutes, its ridiculous

    • @uncledeadhead3674
      @uncledeadhead3674 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kevinricketts1248 actually every bourbon is mostly water. the difference between 90 proof and 120 proof is less than 1 ounce of alcohol.

  • @marktraveler8569
    @marktraveler8569 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video! Thank you! Just subscribed to the channel and already respect your work. Gonna start back through you library 😊

  • @anthonylocklayer1278
    @anthonylocklayer1278 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We need more channels like yours. Keep making this content!

  • @TantricNinja
    @TantricNinja 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Mash and Drum putting the outrageous Secondary prices of BTAC, EH Taylor, Blantons and Weller on notice while Basil Hayden got the biatch please! Lol..Throw some worder on him because he is on 🔥🔥🔥

  • @Ajudge9
    @Ajudge9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I love the honesty, I can’t even look at secondary sites anymore because the prices people pay for average bourbon is just insane. 12 year weller is one of the worst imo

    • @werthliving6745
      @werthliving6745 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I couldn't agree more! I own the 12 year and I am NOT a fan of it.

  • @WhiskeyCowboyGaming
    @WhiskeyCowboyGaming 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the blunt honesty. Keep it up , one of my favorite videos from you yet 👍👏

  • @tctn615
    @tctn615 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude, great video. You kill it!!!!!!! So much info. Keep it up.

  • @marcsmith3781
    @marcsmith3781 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I used to think Scotch was overpriced until I realized that when buying Scotch without doing any research you know where it's coming from by the label. Not so much with Bourbon now. It's so important to educate yourself or you can burn through some cash. Keep up the good work!

  • @russd2888
    @russd2888 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always appreciate your reviews with the thoroughness and comparisons you include. Have picked up several bottles from your recommendations and generally always pleased based on the information you provided. With that being said, as others have mentioned...this maybe be my favorite video. I feel like you were channeling the thoughts and frustration for a very large group of us, and glad to see someone bring it, with no holds barred. Love @ 1:45 & 17:16. Keep putting out the great content :)

  • @davidm4255
    @davidm4255 ปีที่แล้ว

    Without a doubt, your best video ever and it should be required viewing for anyone new to the world of whiskey. Happy Holidays!

  • @RareBird101
    @RareBird101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    "This bourbon is sooo smooove." Loved it, Jason!

    • @TheMashandDrum
      @TheMashandDrum  3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      HAHAH! Had to put that in. It was really the incident at the store that made me make this video. Couldnt take it anymore.

    • @thejonathandoan
      @thejonathandoan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheMashandDrum Reminds me of the episode of The Simpsons where Lisa makes a doll for girls who don't like the bimbo Barbie knockoff. The new one comes out and everyone wants it only because she has a new hat! lol

  • @rydwhite1
    @rydwhite1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Blanton's is the Bourbon that got me into Bourbon. I love it for that reason and for $50-$60 I buy a bottle if I see it. But I do agree that it has become so overhyped and overpriced. It's too bad that it has gone the way that it has.

  • @chrisanderson1498
    @chrisanderson1498 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jason, this video is great ! Love it how you don't hold back, keep up the great work !! Cheers buddy !!

  • @JosephCoates
    @JosephCoates 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I made arule last year to not spend over $75 for any bottle of whiskey. Honestly, Russell's Reserve quickly became my new favorite.

    • @randystache78
      @randystache78 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That good? I haven't tried it. Usually Knob creek single barrel is my go to.

    • @jasonczfan8658
      @jasonczfan8658 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm with you 100% on this. For the price pick yourself up a bottle of Old Forester 1910 and 1920 if you haven't already

  • @mrcat3493
    @mrcat3493 3 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    $50-60 retail is my limit for a bourbon. I’ll never buy on the secondary market.
    Basil Hayden is bland, it is terrible.

    • @jeffwinbush5039
      @jeffwinbush5039 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      On my last trip to NYC, I hit a bourbon bar. Can't recall what I was drinking, but a couple of dudes and I started chatting and they INSISTED on buying me a shot of bourbon and they swore up and down it was THE BEST BOURBON EVER. Well, it certainly has a pimped out bottle, but here's the thing: sometimes a fancy bottle is covering for some really mediocre juice. I enjoyed the shot I had and swore to grab a bottle when I got back to Cowtown.
      Maybe there's something about NYC that makes Basil Hayden taste better because I haven't bought another bottle of it since then. And I'm happier for it.

    • @flaviovelasquez4451
      @flaviovelasquez4451 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Willet bourbon is my go bourbon that's just below that price range. $40-$50. Def better than Basil Hayden.

    • @mrcat3493
      @mrcat3493 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Flavio Velasquez nice. I’ve only ever had Willet 4yr Rye.

    • @AJHart-eg1ys
      @AJHart-eg1ys 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes. If you are obsessed enough to start exploring secondary markets, you're maybe a little TOO obsessed and are swimming in deeper water than you're going to be able to consistently swim in.

    • @mrcat3493
      @mrcat3493 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jameson W I ask myself the same question. It is bland AF.

  • @scottwilliams5388
    @scottwilliams5388 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What an awesome video!!! So sick of the hype and overpriced gouging!!! I love trying new whiskey, but if I can't get it near retail it's a big no way..so glad yo hear you say enough is enough.

  • @samermusallam849
    @samermusallam849 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the best videos I’ve seen. Very nicely done, Jason. Great channel.

  • @MrRedragon64
    @MrRedragon64 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a great video. I'm elated watching it. My exact thoughts & feelings. I wish I could articulate and express my thoughts the way you do. Cheers!

  • @timcorniels4521
    @timcorniels4521 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    My buddy goes out of his way to buy Blantons and has a whole shelf of the stuff. I know he's paid up to $150 for a regular bottle. Every time I'm over at his house and he's trying to impress me with it I ask him for an ice cube just to piss him off.

    • @sagadg1
      @sagadg1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree. The first time I picked up a bottle (for retail mind you) and finally cracked it open for that "special ocassion" I was soooooo disappointed! Not terrible, but definitely not worth the hype.

    • @behappychef158
      @behappychef158 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Tim Corniels After you put the ice cube in it… You should say, This bourbon is sooooooooooooo smooth!

    • @werthliving6745
      @werthliving6745 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      LOL! Hilarious! Love it.

    • @sinjint13
      @sinjint13 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol!

    • @petevr2
      @petevr2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      👍🏽 because I can’t hit “like” twice

  • @akshayjaitly2637
    @akshayjaitly2637 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I obviously haven’t drunk most of the whiskies covered. And now I don’t need to! Your best video yet.

    • @MadNlGER
      @MadNlGER 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right Bc you and him have EXACTLY the same taste. Lol. If you haven’t tried some of this don’t not try them Bc of this video. Simply wait until the price lowers Bc some of them he mentioned were excellent whiskeys. Just currently over priced. Think about it.

    • @nemesiscw
      @nemesiscw 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ehhh, you should still try them if the opportunity comes around for the right price. He makes some statements that just comes off as grasping as straws. Like the Angel's Envy. Complaining that it casts $50 instead of $35? Saying it tastes like Circus Peanuts when it's one of the most popular whiskies? Yes, it's sweet as far as whiskies go. He does make some good statements, but it gets lost among the super ranty, nitpicky statements.

  • @maxwellsmith2122
    @maxwellsmith2122 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was awesome! Thanks for putting this together.

  • @daveroe2292
    @daveroe2292 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was on the fence about subscribing until you got to Blanton's, now I'm in! Great video, great perspective on value related to price and hype, and honest delivery.

  • @Quikdreampro
    @Quikdreampro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Subtitle of the episode should be "Things I wish I knew before starting my whsikey collection"

  • @mmaontherocks
    @mmaontherocks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is great. I'm glad you're speaking out about this. The price gouging by mom and pop shops has been ridiculous. Even at chain stores here in Florida, you can't find Blanton's and when you can, it's $110 minimum. I moved on from Blanton's a long time ago. These days I will take a Forester 1920 or Heaven Hill bonded 10/10 times over Blatnon's for that 55-65 price point.

  • @markyounger560
    @markyounger560 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved the show!!!! You were so spot on!

  • @RainbowGangsta88
    @RainbowGangsta88 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just found you and really appreciate your tone and presentation. I am so tired of channels that try to be funny and zany. "Look at how fun we are!" I like the way you deliver straight up information. Subscribed.

    • @TheMashandDrum
      @TheMashandDrum  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks man. Appreciate that alot.

  • @ricardovelez7686
    @ricardovelez7686 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Easily one of the best whiskey videos I've seen in a long time, Bravo.

  • @BigWen130
    @BigWen130 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    HOLY SH*T. This is the video I needed to send to a couple of friends who spend a lot for mediocre bourbon. Hopefully this will open their eyes. Bravo sir. * Cheers *

  • @vas31022
    @vas31022 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    OMG...Your best video yet. the bleeped out parts are the best...Keep up the good work, cheers!

  • @tedpytlik8123
    @tedpytlik8123 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. There are so many great bourbons out there at reasonable prices at your local ABC store so I could never understand the obsession with chasing down the overpriced and overhyped trendy picks. I appreciate your honest appraisals of available bourbons and those recommendations and bottles will be all I ever need to get a decent pour. Keep up the good work.

  • @archietyler6759
    @archietyler6759 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I laughed so hard😂😂😂 and thank you for setting the record straight😂😂😂... Awesome video Jay!!!

  • @virphan6988
    @virphan6988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I’d agree with all of this… accept for Angels Envy. A solid finished bourbon for $55 IMO.

    • @sounddude177
      @sounddude177 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      $41 in my neck of the woods and worth all of that for sure.

  • @mildmannerededc
    @mildmannerededc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm fairly new to the bourbon world... love this vid and your style in general. Subbed and happy to be here! Keep up the informed honest reviews.

  • @edwardlewandowski
    @edwardlewandowski 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Job. Enjoyed the hell out of this. We are being taken advantage of and thanks for pointing out who and how.

  • @malmeyer
    @malmeyer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I love 'Angry Jason'. Although it feels like you're just going through my collection bottle by bottle and ripping it. Just kidding, I don't have most of those. But I do want the horsey's. ha ha

  • @Adamthehoff
    @Adamthehoff 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I was visiting family in Ohio a few weeks ago and found Weller Special reserve for $22 at the local super market. I bought 4 bottles because of this.

    • @nickfunari9260
      @nickfunari9260 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Being from Ohio Weller Special reserve isn’t that hard to find and always $22. It’s really hard to do better for that price

  • @vresor
    @vresor 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Outstanding episode! I’ve never even seen most of those and would never consider the 3 digit price tag most carry. And I love the Blantons tantrum! Glad I haven’t witnessed that either.

  • @ChadWoodNC-PiedmontSkyCams
    @ChadWoodNC-PiedmontSkyCams 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Jason. This is not only the BEST video you have done but probably the best Bourbon video I have watched in the last 2 years!

  • @ericwilliams6263
    @ericwilliams6263 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Glad you mentioned Blanton’s! I can’t believe people go so crazy over it.

  • @Trucker-nk5fc
    @Trucker-nk5fc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Finally - A sane voice in what is clearly becoming a "tulip bulb bubble" marketplace

  • @bradc6508
    @bradc6508 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Quality video Jason! Spot on thank god for Wild Turkey 👍🥃

  • @dovmeisels6810
    @dovmeisels6810 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love watching Jason rip into whiskey brands, so refreshing!

  • @robster4308
    @robster4308 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I need a chart... Who makes what, for when and how many years, price point etc. It makes my head explode. Then, I need a good dram. Thanks for the video, Jason!

    • @exerciserelax8719
      @exerciserelax8719 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That would be great, I would like to see that too.

    • @whiskeyedition
      @whiskeyedition 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@exerciserelax8719 I found this awhile back: www.drinkingcup.net/american-whiskey-family-tree/

    • @exerciserelax8719
      @exerciserelax8719 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@whiskeyedition Thanks!

  • @TheWhiskeyDictionary
    @TheWhiskeyDictionary 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Completely agree with Whistlepig. I was shocked at how expensive it was when I originally had it and tried it. Whistlepig is out of their mind for the prices

    • @Fumbles9001
      @Fumbles9001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      WhistlePig 12 is one of the best whiskies I’ve ever owned, but it was definitely not worth the price. They’re out of their minds.

    • @leeniemann7955
      @leeniemann7955 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Fumbles9001 have you ever tried the single barrel cask strength store picks, they range from 10-14 yrs old, and some are even MGP. Not bad for $80-90, but I wouldn't pay more than that, unless it was a "honey barrel". Best one I ever had was in a restaurant in Atlanta several years back.

    • @Fumbles9001
      @Fumbles9001 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lee Niemann I had a 13 year old barrel pick at a restaurant, I think it was only like $10 for a pour, and it was excellent.

    • @stevenlharris
      @stevenlharris 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love me some WP

    • @stlbigbad23
      @stlbigbad23 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed, except the 6 yr Piggy Back Rye is reasonable. Found it at Costco for 38.99

  • @Jared40
    @Jared40 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jason keep up good work 👍🏻love the channel I agree with your take on Bookers

  • @mrs.tiffiniporter5244
    @mrs.tiffiniporter5244 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spot on! Spot on!! SPOT ON!!!!! Every single time I get a customer who asks for any of these bourbons EVER again, I'll will show them this video!!!! Every time someone asks me for Blantons I wish I had a rock to throw when the customer throws a fit!!!🤬

  • @joeshantellebrausen7607
    @joeshantellebrausen7607 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I work at a large chain, national, liquor store. It's RIDICULOUS the crying babies unicorn hunting for Blanton's, etc. almost daily!! There's far better product at more reasonable prices. Believe me, I've tasted my share of them!

    • @uncledeadhead3674
      @uncledeadhead3674 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      wait so if YOU like something cheaper because you wont pay for it, they have the problem? lol good one.

  • @stevehuskey9037
    @stevehuskey9037 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    His idea of overpriced and my idea of overpriced are in 2 different worlds !!! You can find SO MANY high quality Bourbons for under 50 bucks ! I know of several in the 20-25 dollar range that punch WAY above their "class"....I'm a Tennesseean and I've tried every JD product they have , and still maintain Dickle #12 is the best TN Whiskey....and it is about $25 per bottle. And I've seen it for a bit less.
    But I'm not looking to impress anybody.

    • @mondoenterprises6710
      @mondoenterprises6710 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That has been my goto for 30 years of sippin'. Damn fine whiskey.

  • @Deeber65
    @Deeber65 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this. Glad you laid it out straight ... Cheers!

  • @TheodoreTooth
    @TheodoreTooth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rocking the Frey Ranch and the Smoke Wagon, love to see all that Nevada whiskey behind you

  • @Dad-hh6qp
    @Dad-hh6qp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good rundown, I've had a few but most I had never heard off, way to may to try. I like Blantons but I agree it's overpriced. Pikesville shout out was great, my first rye, it's getting a little overpriced in my area.

  • @dfbess
    @dfbess 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "It's mostly frickin' water!" Haha! Dude, I fully agree with you! Especially about Pappy's! So freaking over priced and over hyped..

    • @uncledeadhead3674
      @uncledeadhead3674 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i know right theres almost a full half ounce of water more in a bottle of payys over same sized bottle of 120 proof bourbon, imagine paying for a full half to 34 ounce more of water .. wow right! thats almost half a shot glass! woo, what a joke right!

  • @THEPHYSICALSPIRIT
    @THEPHYSICALSPIRIT 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for giving some of the most knowledgeable, no nonsense whiskey reviews on YT.

  • @chuckriddle6751
    @chuckriddle6751 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very educational and extremely entertaining - many thanks Jason!

  • @xxrice
    @xxrice 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "It's not about the whisky, it's the people you share it with." But I am my favorite drinking buddy.

  • @fortyphotography9788
    @fortyphotography9788 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I LOVE IT! STRAIGHT TALK. YOU HIT EVERY ONE ON THE HEAD!

  • @brandoniananamoondo3083
    @brandoniananamoondo3083 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ha! Nice video Jason... the ending had me laughing. For this one you have earned my follow. New to bourbon and bingeing on videos. Thanks for creating great content.

  • @clearlycaribbeanreb7176
    @clearlycaribbeanreb7176 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video Jason!!! Cheers!

  • @kevinbrooks9432
    @kevinbrooks9432 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Couldn't agree more, Weller 12, and Antique were 22.00$ bottles in my neck of the woods 12 years ago.

    • @texasbelle6111
      @texasbelle6111 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The liquor store near me had Weller Special Reserve for $17 a bottle two years ago. Can't find it anywhere now, I made the switch to Maker's Mark and haven't looked back. BT has pretty much lost me as a customer due to their allocation BS.

  • @davidiloani3789
    @davidiloani3789 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I’ll make is rain for Stagg Jr. and that’s it!!!

  • @kdjay2775
    @kdjay2775 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the honesty!! I’m done trying to collect unnecessary & super expensive bottles that don’t refill themselves🙄😂! But they’re are some good pours out there for less. Thx 🙏🏾 Mash!

  • @TheWhiskeyChannel
    @TheWhiskeyChannel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is my ALL TIME FAVORITE MASH & DRUM VIDEO! Friggin love the passion, and dropping all that truth on all them bottles.

  • @caseykayl9110
    @caseykayl9110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Damn Jason, I wish you'd stop holding back and tell us what you really think.

  • @jbizzle8491
    @jbizzle8491 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I like me a bottle of Bullitt or Redel Yell. Both overshoot their paygrades 😎

  • @paulring4267
    @paulring4267 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for your honesty. Love your show.

  • @markpiersimoni1773
    @markpiersimoni1773 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Agreed on so many of your picks. Well done. Love what your doing, stay true to you!

  • @kudukilla
    @kudukilla 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Blanton’s has been my favorite, but it became so when it was easy to look through the bottles on the shelf to get the letters you needed, and it only cost like $45/bottle.

    • @chriscox8515
      @chriscox8515 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah can't believe it. grew up in cincinnati (near KY) and we blasted through blanton's and some select willet when it was a normal msrp and available. now, it's like 'wut?'

    • @guy554
      @guy554 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A lot of people don't realize you can go to the online gift shop and literally buy the full set of letters in both the regular and the gold for the price of a bottle. Something good to pass along.

    • @kudukilla
      @kudukilla 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@guy554 yeah, but that’s cheating in my opinion.

  • @Bourbinsane
    @Bourbinsane 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    This is it. I love this side of Jason too😈😈

    • @manualboyca
      @manualboyca 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Preach! 😂

    • @TheMashandDrum
      @TheMashandDrum  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Glad you enjoyed my dark side. LOL

    • @manualboyca
      @manualboyca 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@TheMashandDrum I think it's your "honest side" and new bourbon drinkers need to hear it. Most people are programmed to think "the higher the price, the better the quality" (with everything). Noobs need to know there are MANY great bourbons under 60 bucks. Don't believe the hype!

    • @johnnyjustice9988
      @johnnyjustice9988 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@manualboyca I've just purchased the latest Booker's "Boston" bottle for $75.00. Being a relatively "noob", do you thnk it's worth it? I can return it and get, say, KCSiB store pick (which I love) for $60.00. But the Booker's was "allocated", and I've never had it before. In this review, he said sometimes 1 or 2 Booker's per year are "special", hence overhyped and overpriced. Thanks.

    • @johnnyjustice9988
      @johnnyjustice9988 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheMashandDrum I've just purchased the latest Booker's "Boston" bottle for $75.00. Being a relatively "noob", do you thnk it's worth it? I can return it and get, say, KCSiB store pick (which I love) for $60.00. But the Booker's was "allocated", and I've never had it before. In this review, you said sometimes 1 or 2 Booker's per year are "special", hence overhyped and overpriced. Thanks.

  • @mysharyna1741
    @mysharyna1741 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude, you are my bourbon HERO!!! For full disclosure, I am far from a bourbon connoisseur. I love Blanton's, but thanks to you I will NOT give into the hype and pay more. My BF and his pals have turned me onto other stuff that you have had on your channel and I'm glad that I can "talk the talk" with them. Thank you for all that you do.

  • @metalman3274
    @metalman3274 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    First video I’ve watched from you, gotta say it was very enjoyable and you got yourself a new subscriber. Thanks and CHEERS!

  • @G3ekbox
    @G3ekbox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I don’t get the pricing strategy of a “Single Barrel” product. It always bothered me that I gotta pay MORE for a gamble. I don’t care if sometimes I may score a good bottle.....the key word is SOMETIMES. It makes no sense at all.

    • @maximumenergy5925
      @maximumenergy5925 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The company's master distiller or taster is supposed to make sure that each and every barrel is great and while being unique and special in some type of way still close in consistency to what ever a bottle of none single barrel would be in the brand . If you are getting "hit or miss" bottles a lot , it's the fault of the head distiller of that particular company . I suggest try a different company .

    • @G3ekbox
      @G3ekbox 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maximum Energy It’s every distillery! Some better than others. But I’d rather have the same expression and be happy with the extra money I spent for something exceptional every time than be pissed off that it’s “lacking” compared to a previous barrel. This is why I LOVE my Hibiki. I know I’m getting consistency every bottle I buy. It’s a marketing gimmick! Look a last year’s Booker’s as an example...a price hike for some underwhelming offerings compared to previous releases.

    • @leeniemann7955
      @leeniemann7955 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It all depends on the distiller and distributor, they set the prices. When you purchase single barrel directly from the distillery it still has to be shipped and sold by the distributor. Every state is a little different from what I have gathered. When you get a barrel of 6-8 year old whiskey you may only get around 120 bottles from 53 gallons due to evaporation over the year. Once you get around 10-15 year almost half the barrel is gone. That's why pricing is higher on those barrels, plus the tax the distiller had to pay on that barrel every year the had it in inventory. I think aging has more to do with pricing than anything else, next is demand/reputation and quality (imo).

    • @G3ekbox
      @G3ekbox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lee Niemann oh I totally understand a “store pick” single barrel price strategy. I’m talking about the marketed single barrel bourbons from the distillery itself. Take for example, Henry McKenna or a Four Roses Single Barrel : It is a single barrel product that is marketed from the distillery as a single barrel. So in the case of Four Roses Single Barrel specifically, they charge more than a 4R small batch. Now, I understand that the proofs and age is usually higher, but i’d rather they just blended the higher proof/age stuff together to offer a more consistent flavor instead of playing the luck game. I’ve purchased some really good Henry McKenna and I’ve had some “meh” ones. And Obviously San Francisco Spirit Award judges must’ve gotten the holy grail barrel for it to win Best Whiskey.

    • @leeniemann7955
      @leeniemann7955 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      G3ekbox yep. That McKenna was honey barrel. Personally they should be judge in separate category, not an overall winner of all whiskeys.