I Bought A New Oscilloscope! Siglent SDS1202X-E
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.พ. 2018
- Here it is the Siglent SDS1202X-E, a 200MHz 2 channel scope. Basically miles and miles better than my current Gould 400.
They are about ~£380 on Amazon amzn.to/2nWybeR (UK) or amzn.to/2JZSoKd ($349 US) but I got myself an ex-lab test model direct from Siglent. According to the system information page it has only been turned on 12 times. Some tinkering needed - www.eevblog.com/forum/testgea... but Siglent have provided instructions so I am actually quite eager to do it. Wish me luck!
It turns out that 'Likes' and 'Shares' actually help the channel so, if you want to, please click the thumbs up or share the video.
I don't have a Patreon or a donate thingy, I get by fine. That said, if you are mega rich and fancy donating something I would find useful then feel free to check out my Amazon wishlist (No pressure) - www.amazon.co.uk/registry/wish...
If you want to get in contact Twitter is probably the best way @mrdavidjwatts
www.davidjwatts.com - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
![[TH] Esports World Cup : Point Rush Stage](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/eLU-jnYp3Zs/mqdefault.jpg)
I have this scope. Look carefully at the probe. there is a small brass compensation screw midway in the probe. Turn it with a small screwdriver to square up your waveform.
Better to use an all plastic screw driver.
I have this scope and the probe comes with a special non magnetic adjustment tool for this prob adjustment.
I am going to throw a question out here. I have an analog phone line that developed a loud clicking interference during a large construction job. I believe that a nail might have gotten driven through two cables crossing them. I use a cable that includes 2 phone, 2 ethernet and 2 cable. The noise is not on the line coming into the house. I think diagnostics can be done using a meter on the millivolt scale but could an oscilloscope be used to find the line with the problem?, I feel that the interference is digital. I hope I don't sound like an idiot but the Verizon guy threw up his hands. I have ethernet, phone and cable connection blocks in the basement where all lines run into a box. Thanks, I hope this isn't confusing
That's a great piece of kit, and a very good deal too.
Enjoy your new toy.
Congrats on your new scope and many happy measurements !!
Great choice. I was very happy with my older Siglent 100MHz DSO (the one I mentioned in a tweet to you). These newer model Siglent scopes are even more refined. Well done. Congrats!
Thanks, the people at Siglent were super helpful.
It's nice too see pure joy. Made me smile :). Geek it up !
Congratulations. Nice acquisition.
Like a kid with a new toy! Excellent!
I was looking at this scope and decided to see what I could find out about it. Lo and behold, you have one. I hope it's serving you well.
Congrats!
I really like the Siglent scopes, I bought the sds1102 CNL when they came out ,it was my 60th Birthday present, paid for by my wife,,there a really nice to use,and you'll love it.
Sir ... With great respect to your age and experience but I wonder how could you find chinese brand good for you while , I assume , you live your whole life in electronics with TEKtronics and HP ( Agilent & Keysight ) giants.
Very nice, I like the idea of asking if any vendors have a demo or lab units. I hope soon to get to the point where a scope would be a tool and not just a toy. Keep broadcasting!!
Thanks for sharing 😀👍
What a great Idea to contact the manufacturer your self 👍
Congratulations! (One more for my wish-list...)
i have this scope it does everything i need it for very well! you can adjust the probes compensation just above the 1X-10X switch to square the waveform
That was super helpful! I just got one of these, and my signal needed to be trimmed, cumming down from the opposite signal problem he had; my leading edge was high, not low.
It has been 25 years since I was in tech school, and hence using an o-scope. So, much has changed, and these little tips really help!
Happy new scope :D
A great price for a 200MHz scope. On these scopes, the compensation cap is usually located in the connector housing. Check there and adjust your probes.
I know precisely zero about scopes, but I noticed it is pink and yellow which reminds me of Mr Blobby, so it must be a good one 👍
Beautiful design
I Never even thought about emailing... Thats almost a $400 dollar scope right now. Nice work!
Nice one. I like it
That is one lush scope! ... glad you didn’t get the Hantek my experience with those isn’t great... excited for you!
Dubious Engineering what waz wrong with the hantek? I was looking at a hantek pc scope, mainly cause its the only affordable one with a 16 channel logic analyzer.
LittleRainGames I bought the basic version... the software was an issue for me... here’s my review video... th-cam.com/video/dKUig1r-iL0/w-d-xo.html
Sweet!
Nice - it's hard to beat a digital oscilloscope for making hobby electronics exciting! Enjoy!
Not really, hobbying without struggling is not a hobby !. DSO products are the worst gift to hobbiest. I advice with Analog Oscilloscope with either cursor readout or at least frequency meter display.
Nice one 🙂
Saelig: It's a great scope at the price!
So I just had mine delivered and plugged it in, I havn't had time to play with it yet but its beautiful....its so beautiful, lovely bold colours and ....and....I can't wait to use this puppy for my new projects...I have boomarked this page as I think I may need it for reference until I get used to it, its very different in operation to my analogue scope...
I freaking love mine, I bet I don't use more than 20% of it features though but that isn't what its all about.
your right, i'm off to hunt down a manual online to give me some guidance.....enjoy!
There is nothing "wrong" with the scope. You always have to compensate your probe. That's why you have the dedicated square wave in the front. On your probe should be a poti like on your old scope. Sometimes near the BNC connector.
The time you asked: "why doesn't it trigger?"
It was because you probably still triggered to ch1.
I recommend watching some EEVBlog on TH-cam. He has some really good tutorials.
Also try not to use the auto function. You won't be able to tell if it's bs you're measuring. Set your timebase and voltage to an expected value and then your trigger.
Thanks, I am aware of the probe compensation I think I mentioned it. The information from Siglent was '...But when measuring square wave amplitude, it is a little bit out of specs. A fine adjustment of a internal capacitor can improve this.'
They did send through some instructions and there is a nice long thread in the EEVBlog forum (link in the description). I might grab a 4 channel in a few years :0) Right now I am a little bit giddy about how different it is to my Gould 400 which I think came out in the 90's.
No. this is a defective unit. They have forgot to solder few caps on motherboard.
Check more here.
www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds1202x-e-compensation-issue/400/
There is a problem with units having serial number with AB in it. The later made units having serial numbers with BB has the problem fixed. MY scope I have also has the defect but there is an easy fix involving some trimmer caps inside that is well documented from the manufacture I just have not performed it yet.
Thanks for the review. I am looking for a one and I think I will try this out. By the way... What is the purpose of the LAN port and USB port? What wonderful things you can do with that? Have you try them?
You have a great voice.
I like my ds1054, but the siglents seems to have much nicer displays
Don't nip in the scope until you have done some probe compensation! Even though they have said a it might be a bit dodgy...
its badass for the price, SPI/I2C/CAN, good bandwidth, oh and runs on 12V in case you want to hack it to work in an automotive environment :D
Where is the 12V option?
This stuff is really kicking Keysight in the butt! I absolutely prefer Keysight, Agilent, HP, over the imports but you really pay super premium prices for them.
Hey! Love the radio repair videos.
Or probes need compensation adjust, good luck.
You do have a compensation adjustment on those probes. That should have been done first. Plus, you need to compensate your probes for a particular channel. That's why they have color coded rings on them.
I got one of these for Christmas, well partially. Haven't used it yet. Terrified to wreck it.
je to výborný osciloskop
cool !
Congrats! Although you got it a year ago. I am looking at Siglent scopes myself at the moment. Always cool to see how these 200Mhz scopes are doing 1 Khz calibration signals! Are you sure this one does serial decoding? Does it have a logic analyzer extension, because those I saw cost around twice as much, or is it doing the serial bus over its two analog channels?
And although your post was 2 years ago, I, too, am now looking at a Siglent for my first and probably only oscilloscope. I've settled on the SDS1202X-E 2 channel model, same as David's. I'm here to learn.
@@toms.3977 Hi Tom, I just had a quick look but if you don't really need 200Mhz and could settle for 100Mhz you can get more value for your money with the 1102/4 X sries. For the rest have a nice day!
can it safely measure AC main line 240v. any idea please.
I'm next.... 👍👊😁
Very nice, I still have to make do with a wet finger and luck.
Ha ha, I was doing that before really. My old scope was too big to move so unsuitable for the way I work these days, mostly on the dinner table :-)
I just upgraded from the hantek. It's garbage. I ended up getting the 2202x-e, well just ordered it. I can't frigging wait
Nice piece of kit. I got the Rigol and hacked it ;-)
I got the buying bug but couldn't afford the Rigol so I had to find a way to get a new one :-) I was very lucky to get such a great deal.
I bought a Rigol Scope 1045Z in the past 6 weeks, got it from our Friends of Banggood mit discount for 338 Euros, but I paid to much. Also I had costs for customs, so I pais nearly 400 Euros. It was not a good Idea to buy it from Asia. After it was already in my Lab, I saw the special Offer of Rigol on their Website for 297 incl. Tax. How ever, I'm same happy with my new scope ....
A cheaper deal always seems to show up just after you buy something. I saved up for 4 months to buy a new monitor only to see the price drop £100 a month later.
Can the colors of the traces be altered?
It is a beautiful scope but the horizontal scan starts from right to left.
Did you learn more about how to use it?
Wait until you play with the spectrum analyzer part (i.e.,FFT). Great for audio analysis and for vibration measurement since the vibs are in the audio range < 5khz. and the spectrum analyzer is only good up to about 20khz(?unlike a dedicated spectrum analyzer which can go to ghz and cost $30k). Plus has HUGE 10mpts capture memory compared to 40kpts in cheaper units.
Thats wrong: the spectrum analyser can go upto about 250Mhz, seen it on other videos.
I have this scope, I bought it for calibrating a few synths and have had no problems. However, I was designing a simple circuit with a UJT transistor (2n2646) as a simple oscillator and I wanted to see its resultant waveform. I was able to do that and all looked good, but the scope constantly goes into 'acquiring' mode and takes up to 30 seconds to refresh. It made using the scope really difficult as it couldn't keep up.
Has anyone got any ideas as to why this is happening or what I maybe doing wrong?
Sounds like a user problem as its been tested extensively in the EEVblog, maybe too many samples, filling up its memory?, I'd try lower memory depth or reducing number of cycles on screen, things like that.
@@suzesiviter6083 I think I worked it out, I think the lfo frequency was too slow for the scope. Using the scroll function helped, and reducing the bandwidth setting of the scope helped filter out a lot of noise that was mudding things.
@@silvertongues2 Glad you sorted it out, I just purchased one, waiting for it to be delivered, was tempted paying double for the 4ch, but I dont honestly think I will need them, especially since I will be getting a cheap logic analyser.
Saelig has a great deal on this scope
I'm just about to place an order for one of these, the only thing I am a little unhappy with is the colours of the traces, I would have preferred yellow and blue instead of yellow and pink....is there a way to change those channel colors?
Page 132 of the manual mentions changing the colour of the display but I have not tried to do that.
David Watts thanks Dave, I'll read that but I'm frightened of screwing it up lol....maybe I'll leave as is
Just checked that out and it looks like that procedure just changes the color temperature of the entire display, maybe changing the individual channel traces color isn't possible.....oh well.
Currently flying back to the UK or I would fire it up and give it a go. When I get back I will do my best to remember to try it.
Just went through all the menus and sadly that colour setting is basically like colour grading but with different colours to show the waveform overlap.
...is there an online operators manual that you know of Dave?
Ha ha, only the manual from Siglent. I have Forest Gump'd my way through it, lots of fun and in reality not all that different from an analogue scope.
That is just your rise time at very small timescale. Go look at another scope. Looks like about 60 ns.
You will never get a perfect vertical even on the best oscillators, so question I would be asking siglent is what is the rise and fall time of the test signal? then you match it with compensation if required.
Update: bought the scope, and typical rise time is 1us about same for fall time using standard scope lead.
What were the reasons of choosing this scope over rigol ds1054z?
Cost mainly, I got this once at basically half price.
very nice !!
btw, david, do check about this.
www.amazon.com/Siglent-Technologies-SDS1202X-Oscilloscope-Channels/product-reviews/B06XZML6RD/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_hist_1?ie=UTF8&filterByStar=one_star&reviewerType=all_reviews#reviews-filter-bar
few old models have this issue. do check if your scope has this issue.
I think I mentioned this in the video Amitesh.
David Watts are you going to return this and get a new one instead?
Oh. From other threads, i able to know that you already know this problem. Did they inform you about this before selling it to you? It would be a cheating if they did not.
As other people mentioned you need to compensate the probes. Watch this video: th-cam.com/video/jzdqugRHoGo/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ToolBoom
It costs too much in India. I want to buy it but it cost around $900 and I have budget of around $350. I'm so disappointed
awesome
Hi David Watts, I sent you a message in TH-cam where I suggest some Important Electronics Projects, so you can check the received messages in your channel on TH-cam, Thank You.
It’s rounded off due to rise time, and you are using too short a time fame. To be honest you didn’t seem to be using it properly. Shouldn’t need any capacitors replaced
Just going on what the Siglent engineer said to be honest. They sent through some very clear instruction though. My old scopes just had pots on the probes I just had to adjust using the reference signal. Perhaps they meant it was only out of spec in certain scenarios.
He couldn't get the built in 1kHz waveform show up nicely. Looks like he doesn't know how to use the Trigger function.. I couldn't tell if he was trying to demo or say something aboutthis scope than just 'Cool' it..
I think the title is 'I bought a new scope' or something similar. Feel free to look for a deeper meaning, but this is a vlog so expect little more than a vlog.
Learn about probes and compensation
Thanks, I am aware.
More cheap Chinese Fisher Price junk! Sorry!!
Why are you saying sorry?