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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 มิ.ย. 2024
- In the recent 5th Anniversary CN Livestream, it brought upon many exciting news. However, certain things rubbed people off the wrong way. I thought to address them in this video.
Timestamps:
0:00 - Preface
0:31 - What I liked
2:30 - Walter
6:53 - Limited Banner Improvements
12:22 - Theresa
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Quick mention! I didn't want to put the negative comments that I saw because I don't want them to get witchhunted unnecessarily, neither do I think any of you should go arguing with such people if you see them as they are free to have their opinion. You could scour Facebook, Reddit, Twitter and Discord for them, quite aplenty to witness, so that you understand I'm not pulling this video out of thin air. Even so, I hope this video was a good discussion for you guys to watch. So, do you like or dislike the updates?
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People are entitled to their opinion. I absolutely hate those who think they are always right. Literally biggest ego of all time.
wth the video is 10 minutes ago how is your comment 50 minutes ago? 💀
@@Three_Fun probably before posting
It's fine. I don't really care about the downside anyway. 🍷
They wanted to show us how hard they cooked so they collabed with a cooking anime and made walter a unit
Laios
We need to cook.
NGL if we don't get Laios Imma be mad 😡
@@Pomho1812my favorite is senshi so I'm already satisfied but hopefully we do get more of the team
while destiny collab just got swept under the rug silently
@@pawdaypay i dont think its even HG fault.
Considering what is going on with Destiny recently
I think that it's important that the free unit of chapter 14 is specifically named "Civilight Eterna" and not "Theresa"
This. It's also strange that the moment you mention that they're not named Theresa but Civilight Eterna, a collectable you can get in IS, the crown you see on Amiya and Theresac, a crown we know holds importance to the story, especially in the Babel event, one of their argument is that it's Theresa using a codename like every operators of Rhodes Island. But they forgot that some operators use their own name as codenames. Even Amiya is just Amiya. I'd go as far to say Kal'tsit is still Kal'tsit and the three letter name is the codename.
And also the Chinese code name 魔王, we know that it was given to Amiya, but now it becomes the code name of ‘Theresa’, and further Lowlight questioned whether she’s the real Theresa in the live stream and ask players to find out in the story. So apparently she’s not a simple existence of Theresa come to live.
it is wierd but with the other leaks it shows she is some mirage so im guessing the crown made an image of her because Amiya medic
Civilight eterna is store memories of the previous owner in this case theresa i assume that amiya in ch 14 will use the power of kings of sarkaz crown to become a medic and in the process of this she also Awaken the memories of civilight eterna and then civilight eterna take physical body of Theresa
If you see her chibi she will act like "I'm sorry doctor but I'm not real"
Playable Theresa actually is not a Theresa but a literally Civilight Eterna, crown of sarkaz that is projecting herself as Theresa (Source: sprites and description from CN posts).
Exactly, if you look at her base animation, you can literally see her flickering. And as you said she is called “Civilight Eterna”, which is the name of the crown of Sarkaz that Amiya posses
Also, the tone of her JP voice is significantly different from the actual Theresa and sounds more artificial (props to the voice-acting), signifying it is just a reanimation of the previous bearer of the crown.
Also, even before the 5th anniv announcement I saw some people changing their mind about playable Theresa after the release of Babel event. The lore drop actually makes playable Theresa kinda more reasonable
Would still *_PLAP dat Crownussy_* 💢💢😭😭
I have never heard of any criticism of this livestream so I’m really surprised lol
should seen zafangs stream
You haven't see the subreddit
@@Only_Ameen04even in the sub only like 3 people are crying, most are just bored or indifferent tbh.
oh no
You haven't seen the cn fanbase in it's entirety
"I really like Mili Im a big fan of her"
Mili is the entire band, not the singer
The singer is Cassie Wei aka Momocashew
Jamiroquai moment
Hes a poser Sadge
true
I hear this one all the time. Is it really so hard to know that it's the name of the band?
I know its a band but i still call Mili her the way Cassie carry them so hard 🔥
I'm the opposite of unhappy in fact I'm super happy I can't wait for it
Yeah, Theresa asked W to find a proper name for herself, and now she has one.
Im actually happy for this as well , but i can understand some of it but others feel rather selfish
Im the same, this Anni was just amazing
Yeah I really lived all of the new operators
SAME
Funnily enough I've seen nothing but positivity towards the anniversary event and myself I find it fitting because W is very important to the story (this anniversary being a story chapter as well)
My guess when people get angry at Walter, it's because it's another hype character they have to summon on and can't skip like if it was a new character they don't care about
I love both original and alter characters and I'm happy about all the changes, yet to see anyone be negative about 5th anni
people have problems with both versions of this character being limited, a reasonable position. personally, my only problem is that i think her outfit looks horrendous lmao, the outfit she's wearing in chapters 10-13 look way better, arknights art direction has been straying away from the tacticool designs that drew people into the game. people are overall positive about the anniversary but doesnt mean there isnt any valid criticism.
I wish Logos clothes were the same from main story but the one we got is fine.
I like don't hate W's new style but i prefer the main story one too.
She isn't important to the story. She was a supporting character for Ines and Hoederer this whole Londinium arc
Thing is, it doesn't help when the event before this are the R6s Collab and Sui event. Two limited close to each other, and then not even for a long break Anniversary. It's way too many banner to pull for a casual or even dolphin player that most likely won't get all the shiny new limited character
Actually, it's 4 limited banner if you counting for Ash rerun as well
chapter 12 gave us ines, 13 was hoederer, how is it that shocking that 14 is W when it was obvious she had a larger part to play esp considering her connection to theresa
Me over here wishing Doctor actually getting more CGs
I think the shocking part is the alter of an already limited unit being limited too lol
@@danielbarnes1241but like why does that matter? yes, other characters coulda got the upgrade and story expansion but at the end of the day an alter of a limited is still just an alter, why are ppl so mad about it?
Her already being limited in regular form and now she have an limited alter too is probably the deal breaker for some people if they had made Logos the limited one there will probably less uproar
@@vinhinh6810 Fomo? Is that really not obvious?
I'm kinda used to the doomposting whenever an event like this comes and I just ignore them since the way they see things like this are more only on the surface level, they see a character they don't like, they immediately hate it.
When the majority of the community doesn't even read the story, they usually gloss over the reasoning why the character gets such treatment.
All they like to see is free stuff being spoon fed to them directly, without giving any actual support to the developers.
And as for Theresa being playable, the way I see it is that, she is not the Theresa we know from Babel, but the Manifestation of the Civilight Eterna aka the Black Crown, the crown has the power to record the memories of previous Lord of Fiends, and Theresa being the previous king, it probably took her appearance and memories along with it. I don't know, but I'm kinda excited to see it.
I personally like Alter units, really want one for shining 🙃
Bro, it's like they know we want her, that's why they're stalling.
SilverAsh or Nightingale is also good contenders
much as i want to see her unsheathe it I'd rather she never have to do so
Shining guard would be DOPE
@@deusexultima6471
possible, His sibling however could be a good candidate (namely, Pramanix and Cliffheart).
Though, I would like a Silverash Alter
Them: "Walter is a cashgrab blahblah"
Meanwhile Theresa literally the most anticipated and most story relevant character in the entire history of the game is being given for free LMAO
Or technically a theresa adjacent character
She's not. Talulah is the most anticipated one.
@@SeekGraceShe's still a really impactful character, literally the leader of babel and kazdel. She also has many connections to the Doctor, Amiya, Kalsit, W, etc.
@@SeekGrace Talulah fell off after it's revealed that Kaschey controlled her.
@@user-fd1ne6to1gHer being alive undermines her entire character, making the entire babel event effectively worthless
I don't really mind the Alters anymore after I started playing Blue Archive They have one character with 3 fcking Alters lol
Yeah, I mean this really felt different from chalter case. But tbh...most every gacha game, have the alter version of the original so I dont think this really alien situation. This Walter has one of the most solid reason to have an alter...cuz W is kinda a character who make the whole AK story what it is right know. She even haved the most earliest concept design before lowlight establish Hypergryph while he was in developing girls frontline.
Plus logos not as a limited while he is one of the sickest caster, is really big a win ngl.
Try playing FGO, we're keep getting alter and alter from either main story or event. They're either have a good kit or bad kit. People keep complaining and honestly it's annoying they didn't appreciate the gift from the developers for us especially the free not Theresa😑.
Isn’t these people keep saying HG keep milking player every limited banner? Who cares about them as someone enjoy reading story and the stuff they put out I can guarantee AK is by far the least milking type on the market.
These people don’t need a reason to hate.
Arknights has always been about the story. W's arc has been building up to a change in demeanor like this since forever.
Theresa (besides already literally being physically present in the Victoria story since chapter 10, so I don't know why people are saying they're going to revive the incinerated ashes of FN), probably isn't even Theresa hence her name being that of the crown.
It's all about the story, and releasing characters to complement it.
Why then story is unvoiced with the same background music. Also, if you skip the story first just to beat ch. and read later you can't track what you read/where you left the story.
btw even background pictures in the same chapter are recycled. There are like 10 blurred pictures per chapter.
@@fagorn4906That's why you memorize it yourself. If you think you've been there, just skip it. If you forgot everything you've read, just read back.
@@fagorn4906This criticism of recycling is a bit of nothingburger until the chapter actually gets released. Kinda the same reason why character showcases sometimes uses previous events' enemies. And you truly think they don't have anything to show to the point of recycling, when HG had cooked with Dagger's Inheritor animation and they have neither track record of flopping after showing teasers nor ever cutting corners and contents?
@@please_be_an_operator_soon yeah, that's a problem. People mention different strong points of this game, but the game itself does not provide any QoL/improvements across this "strong" point for multiple years.
I only see clear improvements in the numbers and quality of skins Hypergryph is pushing xD
The rest is "do it yourself" - count pity on a banner, click daily base, burn stamina waiting for the same chapter resource run to finish itself 1000+ times with the same setup, and remember where you read the story last time xD
We still don't have 24-hour energy storage and any storage for excess energy.. Also, remember you need even to earn energy storage we have with account level and a fresh account starts with 8h, 80 energy storage?
Idk, more friends and more skins with limited operators seem like the way to go since everybody likes anniversary xD
There was Drama?, Never really saw any post of it in my feeds. But we cannot always please everyone and the livestream is a banger to be honest
Not the first time I've heard people complain about alters, at this point I'm kinda tired
Ch'en Alter drama
W alt makes sence, she have reasons to get an alter by plot, and it's also a nice parallel with 1st anni, where original W released
That's why I feel like the drama about Ch'en alter made a lot of sense to me and this one not really
I just hope that Walter is noticeably different in personality from previous W
She doesn't. She already had a ton of screentime and she was a side character the whole arc. Her simping for Theresa isn't a proper reason to milk an alter out or her
And this "parallel" only shows devs lazyness
A yes the same old excuse for alters "plot" the stupiest thing someone can say
Okay but did she really have to be limited also? Logos could've been limited as a replacement, and W alter couldve just been standard. Not factoring in the money associated with W, ofc
Seriously it's more of a non-issue issues that Global players are making... I was so confused as well how some people reacted to the announcements as well...
Like for what reason are you so upset about W getting an alter? It's not like they reused assets/artworks to make the design they even iterated on the design from ch. 10, not only that they also still add additional story/lore for the character that gets an alter. We literally have more than 200 unique operators, I'd say we don't have enough alters that are lower rarity that needs more expansion for their lore/story.
As for Theresa it's also another non-issue it's clear that her body has already been resurrected already, I guess maybe it's a weird decision to make her an operator(but it's acceptable depending on how they deliver on the story) but it's already clear that it is not Theresa though but something related to the Sarkaz Crown.
My problem is not to get alters in general. Same event features Fang alter which i love. But W had no reason to get an alter, her new theme song literally states that she hasn't changed why an alter then?
@@torstwolf8742 Tell me who's another character thats prominent enough in the story to get released as a character? Clearly you didn't read the story yet so why claim she doesn't deserve it.
That line on the lyrics meant her personality didn't change but she clearly grew as a character. Have you not watched that short animated clip?
My only issue with Wis'adel is that she's too much of a powercreep in gameplay but that doesn't take away her validity to have an alter.
@sb18wlc i don't care about power creeps bc i don't care about meta. How can you grow as a character if you don't change? Growth is change.
I don't have problems with alters in general f. E. Fang alter is an absolute must have for me.
Prominent in story? Misery, Closure
I want at some point all EO playable and if you remember end of chapter 13 we got confirmation that blaze is ready for takeoff from landship which could also include other EO if HG wanted to write that
@@torstwolf8742
- Like I said it's her personality(How she think and acts) that don't change, that doesn't mean that everything about her doesn't.
- You need to take to consideration that Babel was the event that realeased before Ch.14 many of the EO aren't related to Babel that well, the only one you mentioned that could have had a chance to get one was Closure.
People can only afford to complain because it's free to do so LMAO
People also forgot we still haven't had any updates on the base after 5 years lmfao
And you also don't know that they stated base update is in the roadmap for upcoming updates, it just not on current patch
It's going to be forever BETA until we find out whatever those whale thing is that shows up in chapter 13 and the new 4th concept pv lol
I don’t get the whole “milking the fans out of their money” with W Alter. Did these people forget that this is the same Hypergryph that willingly chooses not to sell banger skins when they know they can make a profit out of it?
In the same situation when HG giving Theresa (or Eterna, to be precise) for free and making Logos, one of the most anticipated character, a non-limited. What else do these people want?
They literally milked an alter out of Female Tourist C, what you're talking about?
HG has a thousand other ways to milk the money. They don’t have to choose such a subtle one.
Bro they make more money by selling figures of Ambient Synesthesia skins
@@asheqabeer1798 I hope HG will sell that Throne Texas as 1/7 figure, because i'll buy it in a heartbeat. All of The Throne is the best AS2024 group for me, all of their design is just top notch.
who? who is unhappy?
i haven't see any
yeah like 10 people are unhappy about the anniv
r/arknights
WE WANT SIEGE ALTER🤬🤬
Gavial alter alter@@BG-yy3mq
If you dig the comment enough there is some people who is unhappy about it
Please try to convince me Hypergryph are trying to milk their player when they're giving Theresa for free.
Fr
they gave a lot of characters free at this point, even todays event There is a free 6 stars 😂
Who's Theresa?
The funny thing is, HG never forces ppl to pull, and they even give free pulls EVERY limited! They keep cooking and feeding us, which is why we get a DunMesh collab! We even get new languages for old characters every update and modules, which is more than any other gacha game!
I like the older limited going down to 200 is great, and is really nice in terms of viability. The main problem I think is that it feels like this is way too late. If this was maybe 2 or 3 years after each operator, that would be fine, but to have to wait 5 years for the character to get decreased is crazy.
YES EXACTLY
Think about this, Viruosa will cost 200 in 2028… 😐
That is A Looooong time for a 100 Pull discount, 1 year I think it’d make sense BUT FOUR 😱
This is the only thing that I was disappointed about in the livestream tbh, everything else was a banger
@@divinity_nya Yeah Same
i am totally celebrating what HG give to us in 5th anniv stream.
and even IF i want to critic something, i must make sure to experience it myself first, thats my rule.
so yeah, can not wait to experience this patch at global later.
I love and agree with that mentality, we don't even HAVE the story of chapter 14 on CN yet, so how can people sit there and claim that W alter is not story relevant, or that Theresa is non-canon. Like, just wait until the story is out and readable, typically, to the surprise of some it seems, the story that releases alongside new 6 star ops is related to the 6 star ops.
Hypergryph literally giving up on A LOT OF money and spend a lot of just to bring all this stuff into Arknights. All about 5th Anniversary is literally the gift not only to AK players, but to Arknights in general. W looks hot and that`s not a bad thing. Theresa is playable? Neat. Its not her, its just crown? Whatever, let me have seggs with it. 200 pulls for spark old limited? HELL YEAH, I really wanted OG W because I started playing AK only in 11.11.2022, but there`s just so many better units that I didn't risk to go for her but now Im willing to for 200. And we gonna have even crazier content in the future judging by Arc 3 concept trailers in the end of the stream.
People who cry about those just crybabies that have nothing in their life so they are getting mad at everything just to feel something. Those people usually scream at people on the street, mad at white straight men for their existence, mad at sexualizing women characters in videogame and don't take a shower in real life. Just ignore their shizo chatter
AHAHAHAH. real tho
In my opinion the people who are against the news are those who either don't understand the story/W/"Theresa" as well as they think they do, feel like they're obligated to get Walter because they have the original or "old W trash, need Walter for muh meta. Thye just made W again but betta, hygrpgh attacking my orundum!".
The only time I will believe that HyperGlyph is fishing for money is if they suddenly make Frostnova, Patriot, Faust, Mephisto, etc playable as much as it sucks to never have her.
Those poeple never paid attention on DM or W as the character as a whole and her significant to the main story as a whole.
Drama ? What ? Where ?
This only place I see someone talk about Unhappy 5th anni .
Probably in discord. They always loud in critics there, and it's maybe a crazy small number too. They just loud
So 2 things:
1. As a F2P player I can accumulate roughly 380 pulls per 6 months. Ex: I saved since Muelsyse and spent about 80 pulls on Typhon and 300 on Virtuosa banner just now. (And 30 pulls on Jessica banner because I just couldn't wait, and got Eunectus.) And Like as a F2P player I want to try to get almost every op in the game (Which I have about 250 ops. 48 of them being 6* +1 because I'm sparking Tex. Alt tomarrow.)
And the best part is when pulling 300 times (I've done only twice) is that I get 38 pulls back because of distinction cert. (I got 360 certs this banner so far, 270 pulls in. But then again I have insane luck.) But like it's easy to accumulate a sh** ton of pulls if you just wait. 6 months is long enough for a F2P player to get 300 to spark.
2. I was kinda upset at how much dmg W alt was doing and thought that it would ruin a lot of squad comps or stuff like that. But a few minutes ago I realized.. How often do I use Ch'en Alt? Never. How often do I use Sutr? Never. How often do I use Myłnar? Almost never. How often do I use any support unit? Rarely unless it's IS or DOS or CC because of Auto deploy and I need to farm stages. And even in these events the only support units that I use are Pozë and Texas Alt. (Which is why I chose to spark. To use her in IS.)
The thing is I almost never use these units because I don't need to. I already have a good squad comp. And since I got Exusaia since I started playing 2 years ago I have NEVER not used her unless I'm using a guide or am trying to clear a stage in a unique way. But she is my primary physical dmg dealer.
Here is my current Squad comp.
- Muelsyse
- Gavail Alt.
- Exusiai
- Typhon
- Kal'tsit
- Irene
- Yato Alt
- Eyja Alt
- Saileach
- Horn
- Golden Glow
- Mountain
I know that half of these units are limited ops.
So after realizing that I never use these Op Ops anyways unless I physically Have them in my hand. I'll never use them as support anyway.
That is my long oppinion on this topice. Thank you.
I’ve seen people upset about limited alter of a limited, I just think it’s kinda funny. Civilight Eterna too, but it makes sense, and it’s Not Theresa herself. I’m overall Very Happy with every addition/change.
Also the limited banner change is very nice, but I’m talking as a player who’s been willing to save for half a year to 300 anyway.
To be honest having two limited versions of the same character is a bit disappointing. They also made her balans. I would be okay if Logos was the limited unit.
Original W is a limited op so it kinda weird if her alter is non limited
@@mantruong9612 Why not? Why would it be weird? I don't see any problem with that. It's actually more acceptable. Ch'en, Skadi, Eyja, and Texas all have both regular and limited versions. It doesn't matter whether the regular or the limited version comes first. Two limited versions of the same character is just unpleasant, at least for me.
@@macsenpai7006 logos limited also weird, since Logos always been with us Rhodes since Babel
@@mantruong9612 by that logic Eyjalter shouldn't be limited, so does Galter and practically almost anyone else
@@mantruong9612 Ok so by that logic, why was Nearl alter, skadi alter, eyja alter, ... was limited while their og versions were all standard? Not every alter has to be standard, sure, but having a character be double limited just makes her so much less accessible for many people and generally comes off as a dick move
This is going to be one of the best updates in all of arknights, can’t see anything wrong going on
"Arknights players are unhappy"
Says who?
Even as a completionist, I am happy for W-alter because I see Limited Ops as a new unit I can play with and I can read how the character I liked before have moved forward in their story.
I had no complaints about the livestream whatsoever, HG is being very generous and I don't think people objectively judged them maybe because they might have been abused by other gachas before lol
and the Alter argument specifically, are we forgetting how Mihoyo used the same characters across 3 games ? lol
overall I'm very excited...
RIP D2 collab !!!
thanks for the video Kukki...
the thing that upsets me is timing for global specificaly, cuz i want shu, i want ela, i want ash, and now as a chery on top i want both logos and waltuh, kinda expensive for f2p. Not realy expensive for me as i dont realy roll and sit on a literal mountain of od and tickets. But for others that can be a problem
I hope of accompanies some banger lore. Plus, I hope it improves on W's lore, since I got the vibes of Revenant shenanigans with all those weapons materializing out of thin air!
I don’t mind that W got an Alter since it’s fitting, but wasn’t up for the fact that she’s the Limited… until seeing her kit.
11:21 kukki what you going on about... arknights global consistently pulls in at the very least a mil dolans every month according to the revenue charts. EN AK is on the higher end of EN servers
I got this game in like 2020, and started playing seriously end of 2023, but "Let them cook" is something I've been saying a lot. The story, gameplay mechanics, stages, etc. is something I look at, ruminate for a second, then go "Aight, cook." and they have delivered. (This coming from someone who has just gotten to chapter 5)
Personally I enjoy all the alter's as long as there's a good story reason for their existence. The one character I desperately hope gets an 6* Alter is Amiya, I'm honestly surprised she hasn't gotten one yet since she's the the mascot of the game
As a global player, I’m looking ahead 6 months with 3-4 limited banners in short succession and events that I’ll have to skip to recoup orundum. I’m glad to see Hypergryph lowering the cost to spark some units (on the most recent limited CN banner), but I’m still anticipating an expensive series of banners. For me, it’s still saving 240 pulls for R6S collabs, and another 200 or 300 pulls to be safe on the other two banners. 6 months of grinding 1-7 😅
As a FGO player, people complaining about the banner decisions here are crazy when we have a new limited banner every week, a 1% chance to get a max rarity unit instead of a 2% chance, no soft pity, and a hard pity that's so high it might as well be nonexistent.
Theres a gssr in fgo
@@mr.mysterious3349 AK has a selector for double the cost
@@mr.mysterious3349 its paid gacha, in arknights at annivs you can also guarantee the one you pay for lol
I don't get the drama.
We have so many sci-fi and fantastical concepts in Arknights.
Why is resurrection, as one such concept, the proverbial line in the sand the community will not cross?
I get that it may devalue the 'death' of a character but in the moment itself, that death meant something.
And it's currently also not an abused concept.
This is the first time a character has been brought back from dead in AK.
It's not like Theresa just died and was immediately brought back either...
If that even is Theresa, giving her current name as an operator in the game.
She very well could be some Sarkaz summon or manifestation from the crown, which is a relic in the lore, that simply resembles Theresa.
As for death it self; there is a huge difference between story and gameplay.
Just because a character died in the story, doesn't mean a playable kit featuring them shouldn't exist in the game.
If they released an event where say Bagpipe dies, does that mean her character in game should be deleted from our accounts?
No.
It simply means her character wouldn't appear in stories moving forward from her death.
Except if she is referenced by others or appears in flashbacks or events set in the past, when she was still alive and present for said story.
For me, who have started playing 2 weeks ago and really want old limited operators like Nian and W, the 200 tokens needed instead of 300 is really a saver, this kind of solves almost every anxiety of mine towards the game 🙏
Really liked this anni and new W makes me happy and makes sense as she is nearing a breaking point in character development in ch 13. Bummer she's still limited but I don't mind it enought to complain.
I didn't watch the cn livestream yet I did hear about Walter. I hate the fact that she's a limited alter of an already limited character.
I don't like the concept of limited as it creates fomo. Alters by design are pretty cool as they show character development and are most of the time pretty cool.
I wish hypergryph wouldn't have introduced the limited system into ak.
Why FOMO though? I don't feel missing out even if i don't have any limited and you can still continue to play the game without any requirement that you must have a limited operator.
@@29_firdausayanuar88 You don't require healthy food to survive either you know, you can just eat dirt instead. Your logic btw
@@alexeystarkov7504 huh? Is that how my logic work? I mean iam saying based on Arknights game, since you don't require a limited character to clear most of the content, so i don't see the reason about feeling missing out just because you don't own a limited character, because you can still use other character based on your own creativity to clear any content.
@@29_firdausayanuar88 I like how you yourself pointed out "most" part.
@@29_firdausayanuar88It’s less about clearing the stages and more about collecting said characters no? Sure I could still clear newer stages using old chars since I just came back from a 1 year break, and I dont feel missed out even though there’re many chars I wanted, but not everyone are the same, people have different priorities and some just want to collect
my biggest problem with W alter is that it is a limited alter of an already limited operator. W alter also just seems absurd with her DPH actually being game warping. mlynar existing already has caused so many mobs to just have 1000-1500 defense because they straight up need it VS broken ops like him. I also think it is an alter fatigue thing I didn't really feel it about a year ago when people complained about it but it feels like every banner has one. I am 99% sure theresa is the free unit because of her lore significance they want everyone to have her. I am not exactly mad I am scared about the future of the game both banner ops are completely broken and I am starting to get sick of every limited banner having an alter on it.
honestly I really didn't want to leaks be true because of I was not sure how would it play out. 3 of most popular characters being released all of sudden. but I am actually quite satisfied with final results and also... I literally showed Mili song to my friend who only plays Limbus company and left AK years ago and then I said It's OUR Mili NOW!
Have a safe flight and a fun trip! The only problem that I have with W Alter is I'd say her design I'd prefer her to have the same clothes as she does right now in the story, or maybe the shoulder blades are a bit to much for me.
My problem with Wis'adel is that she's a limited 6 star alter... of a character who's already a limited 6 star. Whereas other limited alters were *at least* for characters that can be obtained at any time in their original forms. Skadi, Gavial, Ch'en, Nearl, etc. I get that W is incredibly popular, but why not do the player base a favour and put her original version and other very old limited units into the standard pool? Even better, put them into the Kernel banner so people have a good reason to pull on there.
I think the problem people have is that Arknights isn't the type of game to rerun limited unit banners and so, getting limiteds that you missed out on can be a pain.
Yep. This is my problem for current update because both OG W and Wisadel are limited. I know the feel how painful for someone that simps her. For me, it should be Logos that become limited and Wisadel become common, not the other way around.
That's some controversial material right there putting limited to standard lol
Some kind of scam if they do that to all players who had spent during that time.
How are you gonna tell those people?
Product branded as limited then put it on standard isn't it same as scam? Bruh
tbh, i like that they just put story wise, strong alter into limited like others. they are strong, they are good, that is why they are limited, but still gonna go for the free crown.
@@Fuwachi it's pixels in a video game, it's not a physical thing people get or something. there's no good reason for these characters being "limited" in the first place since it's not like HyperGryph and Yostar can somehow run out of stock.
so the "I have this, you don't and you shouldn't have it" mindset is pretty dumb. besides, I doubt most people are going out of their way to get 2020 limited units in the year 2024 lol. the novelty of Nian/W/Rosmontis has faded long ago.
@@Fuwachiwell, W original basically has been 3 years old. Putting her into kernel is not really a problem. If they want to make it a bit harder, then kernel banner will never featured her until make your banner appear. Thus limited feel is still being upheld there (as the only way to get her is for her to spook you via kernel) or buy in the shop later with build your own banner.
Logos and Wisadel banner completely changes how I look at every other banner and my mastery/module plans for the coming months.
First of all Logos is a must have, he is literally my most desired NPC jailbreak together with Ulpianus.
I thought Ascalon was a must have for lore reasons, but compared to Logos she isn't important to me.
Second of all, Logos seems like he will be insanely powerful even though we don't have his numbers yet.
We all know that casters needed a little push to compete with physical damage again, Logos may be that caster. Let's cope together!
Third of all, the insane performance Wisadel displayed on Patriot is a good bonus alongside Logos that also trivialises many other operators that I wanted to get initially, which literally means I can save more pulls for the Logos banner in particular.
The only thing that feels bad is that I already regret maxing out Typhon, and this feels like adding salt to the injury.
The only bad thing I took from this livestream is that this is the first limited alter of an originally already limited character.
That and their sniper archetype just practically consists of just her and rosmontis, both limited operators.
Gray Alter and the cats dont exist , ye
@@kizunarin2795 "practically" being the keyword here, my dude. obviously referring to 6*s that people specifically pull for. if we're going to be semantic about it, the cats are also limited.
Isn't Theresa already revived since chapter 10?
They don't rea-
Well, actualy we can already see her in the beginning of chapter 8. Within small sequence with Theresis and Confesarius.
they don't fcking read what do you expect
Really? People arguing over Walter?!
in chapter 10, we established in the story that there is a version of theresa walking around. There are multiple screnes of her. Idk why ppl say she is dead and cant join us. It's funny that the ppl who complaint about theresa use lore reason but dont read the stories or just forget it.
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Ayooo i am shock... Hope your Journey in Indonesia go smooth Kukki. Have some Fun ❤🎉🎉
200 pulls to spark does not make a difference if you're just collecting them. Both Rosmo and W are underwhelming nowadays, Nian can be useful but i don't see the reason to spark her unless you plan on skipping Shu Banner.
If anything, i just want my Ulpianus from the recent abyssal hunter event leak
Both were underwhelming since their release
Tbh i like 6 stars that’s around Rosmontis and W level, they don’t demolish stage design as hard as the other 6 stars, they still do tho. If Walter can do what i saw she can do, what even is the point of strategy if she can just 3-shots Patriot so easy like that? The power gap between 5* to 6* and low tier 6* to high tier 6* is just so massive.
@@Eclin the fact that they even used patriot really made me feel Lowlight is just lurking around the playerbase in disguise
Nian stocks actually went up with Shu's release since you need the whole fam to proc her SP gen talent, but Rosmo and orig W are whatever, doesn't really matter. Also same I would've been hyped as all hell if Theresa was the limited with Logos (at least we would be sure that such a lore-important character would be strong as a modern limited unit), but instead it's dear old W, with the same old pyromania and explosion loving personality with atrocious design (imo). Sigh. alter fatigue is settling in fr
@@leonidesbabanto1585 speaking of that sp gen talent, how does it affect chongyue's S3 downtimes?
I just hope they downgrade older limited characters to non-limited. OG W would've been the best one to downgrade since her alter is also limited meaning the old one would have much less hype around it and should be made more available.
Thats very dumb to do 😂
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I remember providing a suggestion for having old Limited Operators decrease by 50 sparks after the second time they appear in the shop and that they can cap at 150 at the lowest when it's old enough.
I was actually surprised that they went with just reducing old limited operator (W, Rosmontis, and Nian) by 100 sparks.
I wonder if when the next batch of limited operators reduce to 200 pulls as well (such as Dusk, Skadi-Alter, etc.), would they reduce W, Rosmontis, and Nian even further or will they keep at 200?
I think they reduce the spark o these units when they become 4 years old....which is better then nothing But not that great. especially whenin 4 years most units tend to be powercrept and or are irrelevant. and still 200 pulls is still a lot for what essentially is a useless unit.
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I'm coping with that 200 isn't the limit and that potentially next year, those limited units that are already 200 could drop down to 150, which I believe would be a good place for it to stop.
@@Zack_Zander tbh given that it took them 4+ years to even have any reduction it is heavy copium.....
Can I have some? For my Mountain Summer Alter dreams?
Mili finally making an arknights song was such shock to me I popped the heck off I LOVE MILI SO MUCHHH OMGGG
I just shut off my brain and let the Horni take over.
Azur Lane player 😂
Good Video!
As a story nerd who reads everything, I am purely hyped for W alter and Theresa.
And on that point, Theresa's unit being named Civilight Eterna and not Theresa has some huge implications which makes the "oh she's resurrected that's dum" argument hold even less water.
Not even mentioning that Theresa being back in some form has been known all the way back since the end of CHAPTER 8 already.
I'm not sure if the guaranteed Walter at 300 is exclusive to her banner, or if they'll do that for all limiteds going forward. It would be a nice change if you could be guaranteed the limited at 300. Like you said, most of us aren't that unlucky, but I've had two friends now pull on a limited banner with the goal of sparking an old limited, not get the *current* limited in all 300 pulls, so they turn around and use their spark on the current limited. Happened to my friends on Texalter and Eyjaberry banners. Massively unlucky for them for sure but it sucks they saved so much with the goal of sparking someone in particular while getting the so-called rate up limited, then had to forgo their goal.
I mean they did like an Alter break after Jessica Alter and gave us OG ones like Hoederer, Virtuosa, Viviana, Lessing, Degenbrecher, Ray, Shu, Zuo Lee, and Ascalon so if they want to give us an Alter again I think it's pretty much acceptable...
This, they already give around more or less 30 new character and we only got 4 alter last time before W. The fact that people still complaining and calling HG out of idea is really weird.
So we're going to talk about these three people complaining on Reddit?
-One- Three-guy'd
Clickbait and people obsessed with minorities.
My only criticism of W alter is that her drip looks horrendous. Which sadly is in character for her🗿
People didn't mad about W getting an alter. People mad about limited character getting a limited alter. People will be less mad if Logos was the limited banner instead.
For the Destiny 2 collab, my guess is they are waiting to release it as a promotional event for the new D2 Expansion, but the expansion has been delayed till June
I am not unhappy that w alter released, it is the fact that there are going to be 4 limited ops in a row. We have Shu, then Ela, then Ash, and now w alter. Having 300 pulls left over is impossible for every dolphin or f2p player.
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The easy way for them to avoid trouble was to swap Logos to be the limited one and Walter to be the standard one.
I don’t think Theresa will actually be her revived as a full character, but rather a manifestation of the civlight eterna.
Reed Alter is near perfection in terms of story and lore, how she became Alter is just great,
Jessica Alter is perfection in every way, she's balancing her rational and ideals, the event is just great,
Wis'Adel? how about we wait for the story to drop, then judge? after all the Alters, there's no way it will become Chelter where the way she becomes Alter is just "fanservice".
People are too quick to judge, it makes me believe the only reason they did that is that they didn't even read the story and every time that kind of person rants on social media, it's solely because the operator they wanted didn't get released/alter, that's it.
feels like these negative yappers are tourist
It was a great Livestream for me with so many good changes. The 200 pity for older units is fantastic. It's possible to save up for that even for f2p with patience
And I like Wiš'Adel as a character and I'm very curious to see how her background is etc etc. I'm a massive fan of Vigna and I like the idea that older characters develop and get a new character to show how much they have grown
You know what, I'm just glad that Logos isn't the limited one because I have been waiting for him ever since I read Mudrock's story on that one mini event (I forgot the name). I have also accepted Theresa becoming playable (I have this headcanon where she's just like Kikyo in Yashahime: that it's the crown being playable and it just took on the form of Theresa) and for Walter, after watching The Dagger's Inheritors and from what I can recall from the main story, I also started to accept her alter. I have not read DM and have yet to read Babel but I know enough that her alter is justified.
Also, this is my 1st gacha game and I didn't even complain about the 300 pulls . It just traumatized me during my pulls on Texas Alter where I only got a single copy after 314 pulls. That guaranted 300 pulls and the spark lowered to 200 for 4-year-old limited ops are heaven-sent for me. This means I can just wait for Chapter 14 to spark W and onwards, I can just save 200 pulls instead of 300 to spark the past limited ops I want. I only have Spalter, Texalter, Ling and Skalter so it means I have a lot of saving to do to spark for W, Rosmontis, Chalter, Eyjaberry, Nian, and Chong.
I'm sure (hopefully) the complaints are just in the minority cus all i see is hg cooking some good shit
This kinda feels like a sad attempt to make another Chen controversy
Summer limited is basically silly shit. Nothing has been done on character to get new significant lore. (yes this is including Ejya (albeit better) and Gavial).
@@eternalinsignia Summer event has been always underwhelming in terms of story. Eyja's part in the entire event was good tho. At least the emotion was there.
AK players are unhappy ❎
Some AK players are unhappy ✅
Views, son, views.
I'm fine with 300. I just wish we could carry over from Limited to Limited. The past couple events, I haven't wanted to pull that much... but I still walked away ~80 pulls in each to get the one banner 6* I wanted. It's annoying seeing those get dumped into parametric certs or whatever. Let me carry them forward to the next limited event towards that 300 (or 200 for really old ones).
Nah there's no way people are seriously mad about this 💀
some of that honestly kinda confuses me. like, there were definitely things in the livestream that bothered me, but the theresa thing wasn't one of them, considering she hasn't been dead-dead in the story for a while now and they've been hinting at all that sarkaz-specific lore all along (which most likely wouldn't apply to frostnova). i really wish people would read a bit more of the story, then some misunderstandings could be avoided, and maybe there'd be less drama :')
Well they also have not see the chibi animation too. If they see chibi animation posted after the livestream, they will see Theresa is not her but hologram. (and her name actually reflect this too).
Do they even know the whole business with sarkaz crown?😅 why their question Theresa coming when she already did from chap 10?
Because they dont even read the story
My only concern with W Alter is that how the game would start being balanced keeping these units in mind. Not super concerned considering all that has happened so far with Surtr and Chen Alter, but there has been slight balancing updates that one could feel that happened, especially with Surtr. Think they have handled it pretty fine because they have spaced these powercreeps fairly fine. If they do start releasing units like this back to back, then it could be an issue. Granted the veterans probably want harder content to use their units on. Then I see from the last event we had with DOS S-3 where it seemed like everyone mostly used the same comp to clear it and if there was changes, they may have swapped a unit or 2. I think they should try to balance the endgame out a bit more so it doesn't feel like people are pigeonholed into using the same comps.
My issue with W alter is that her original is already limited
like. all the other alters have a standard counterpart that you can use. but W is not only a 6*, but is already limited
for such a significant character, I feel like maybe she shouldn't be so limited?? probably just me tho
trying to spend as little as possible while still having fun as I don't have the funds to save up for a full 300 pulls
oh well
It'd be interesting to see the demographic of those who complained.
My biggest complaint about this anni is that Walter is simply the 3rd sniper in a row with shit ton of damage and basically nothing more except the rng perma camo, it really gets old.
Logos is cool and CE I thought I was going to hate her more than I ended up doing.
I'm sad for fang alter tho, she's basically grani 2.0 with nothing more going on for her
lol flinger doesnt have a good unit, i am glad they still remember it😂
@@blitz85 Flingers have pretty well specialization even if their damage is lacking. Rosmo niche with her S3 for ranged only clears is still unparalleled and her S2 AoE stun with module is one of the most consistent in the game. Same with greyy alter, with module his S2 slow has the best uptime in the game and he sees consistent play for 5 stars only clears due to that. The palicos are among the best DPS for 3 stars and lower if you care about those rarities.
@@KiteAzure nah bro, rosmo is bad compare to the other sniper archetype, that's why Walter exist to close the gap
@@blitz85 like I said, flingers aren't bad, they're specialized. Rosmo never had good damage but really good utility, she's been consistently used because she's the only sniper able to deploy bodies on the field and have a consistent AoE stun. Obviously those things don't matter for general squads where you can just delete everything from existence but the option is there, and that's what counts. Walter doesn't close any gap, more like the other way around, she's opened another one by being the new big damage operator without any drawbacks that must be surpassed, and that isn't healthy for any game.
She a flinger that actual good for once.
I'm happy with the change to the limited banners as a person who's had unlucky cursed pulls.
I haven't seen backlash only a good response but I don't think the backlash makes sense considering us global players have the power of foresight so saving for what you want is so easy.
I just think making a limited alter of a limited character is scummy, especially when none of the other limited ops need an alter. I think making WAlter as a non-limited op just makes more sense. The version iffy on alliances and that debuts close to the time of being a villain, and the fully aligned version that has stuck with Rhodes is a normal pullable operator. It just makes sense.
I was super hyper, and still am, from the announcements. My only disappointment is lack of Siege Alter.
I think Alters are WAY healthier for a story then 500 new characters. Character development matters, so I don't really understand why people oppose alters?
I'm sure siege alter will come with the final chapter of the Londonium arc
Theyre releasing new operators on every other side story
Ppl should cut HG some slack man
Siege alt has been teased in the newest concept trailer along with Lappland alt. Just wait patiently.
@@sliralisk I hope so. I keep reading comments that 'W stole it from Siege and this is the end of the arc' but.. It doesn't feel like thats right?
Like the arc doesnt seem like it should end in 1 episode, and the trailer doesn't seem londinium at all
I don't care about w alter and w alter is very fitting to have an alter
yes BUT not original w personality, like how she behave before in-game's prologue/anime.
the only problem i have with the anniv is the severity of powercreep
300 pull is alot. BTW i recall they did it for ASH on rainbow six siege event. I think its 100 pull to get ASH or not.
it might be reaching for others, but for me W getting alter is like lowlight finally closing the part of the story that HG as a team had cook from the start, W supposedly a lowlight OC for his previous work in Girls' Frontline (GFL) gacha game when he is still in Mica Team/Sunborn, she is in the concept art of the AR team (the protagonist of the story) and even the commander art is similliar with how our dokutah (with mask hoodie thing) in AK, even in AK ppl link her gun with MK18 that would fit enough with the line of gun that the AR team have in GFL (others being M4A1, ST AR-15, M16A1, and M4 SOPMOD II), through the years W seems to be lowlight or HG golden child with a lot of official art, collab and even Ambience Synesthesia 2023 feature W as the the poster girl
and with this alter, W become WisAdel and have implication a significant meaning for the story, for the sarkaz, for kazdel, WisAdel signature weapon for her gun and bomb, now bacome futuristic alien kind of gun and dagger, and HG make sure the dagger have big significant, she hold it in her art, her chibi hold the dagger, even her short animation "The Daggers' Inheritors" show her CQC with her dagger and her Arts to make things explode, it doesn't show her gun anymore
even with the concept art, so far we only have 3, that come out just before the game realese and now at the end of 5th anniv livestream we shown the 4th concept art with a lot of things that we don't know yet, so i excited for what the future come, from more matue and experienced HG through the years they doing this story
IMO the thing about 200 sparks are just for the people who is salty, thinking too much, and want to feel special about themselves for having a limited unit. Because they have spent money on it, they can feel that way. Some people may cant understand since they are f2p or just playing casual. In 10 people there will be 1 or 2 people that will feel like that. I am not saying that is wrong to feel that way, its only natural to be happy about owning something you spent on it, but if that feeling make you lashing out on people or doing mad ranting, or other negative things, that was on you yourself.
I agree with all the points you made boss, Let the cook!
I have lost my pulls to 300 several times as well and when I heard about them 200 degrade for older unit characters, this is honestly a blessing to be honest. In terms of a business stand point it makes total sense for them to be cheaper to get for players to have.
My next point is also on alters, imo I do love alters cause we get characters that have been left behind like Skadi and Chen and many others and now that they make a come back is amazing to me. The reason I say this is for example in Genshin impact we have Diluc, when he was first released people were going crazy about him and now in the present time people are calling his design trash and hoping for a revamp like the fontaine characters and how his burst and ultimate are far lacking compared to the other new units. Essentially being left behind and the gacha game companies cant remake them from my understanding (please correct me if im wrong), but if they change how a character works specifically the ones you pull for the companies can be sued and such and there is a lot of problems with that. This is essentially a way for older characters to be revived and get the love they once had imo. Like for example when Jessica was brought back I completely forgot a lot about her until her alter came back and now its a blessing to play her and remember the character and getting the shine she has just like Skadi and such.
These are just my points.
For me the only bad thing is that Walter is the Limited One and Civilight Eterna is the Welfare
Never been this early to a kukki video
same
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