Had mine since the 90’s. It’s up in a loft now but I recall it always doing that thud switching channels from new. Doesn’t mean it should of course, maybe mine is a bit dodge from the start.
Good call Matthew. All the valvestate stuff is massively underrated for a near spot on valve marshall tone. I used to use their vs power amps when i ran tne jmp 1 midi pre amp in the 90s. Billy gibbons and even the late dusty hill both used the vs powr amps too 😊
Great video.ive got the chance to pick up an 8080 at a reasonable price that’s been looked after. Would you recommend one? Maybe a valve change and a speaker change as well. If put a cream back in the 8080 would it help address the lack of bass? Great video and new subscriber here.
I have one of these amps unused for 20yrs. Has enormously loud amount of crackle and feedback when touching controls. Presumably it will work better with a good clean of sockets and pods?
I guess you can get one for peanuts!😎 I've got a Marshall DSL20CR ( a year old ), and I changed the speaker to a Texas Heat, and now it sounds wicked! Great video! Cheers!
Great video, thanks for sharing!!! I'm kind of surprised that you used WD-40 to clean the pots. I've always used a control cleaner with lubricant. DeOxiT makes some, but I still have an old stash of Radio Shack TV Tuner cleaner/lubricant.
I still have my Valvestate 80V. I think it's great: true spring reverb, effects loop, master volume so I can crank it and not PO the neighbours; great sounding boost channel. However... yes cleans are a bit thin, get a bit better when warmed up, and the tone controls don't do much on the clean channel. I have a cheap booster with bass and treble to thicken the clean sound. Also I've never got the reverb to work by foot switch. I never thought about changing the speaker, but I might do now. Thanks for the vid. I always like to get some insight on my equipment and know how it works.
"When warmed up"? The whole of the clean section of all the Valvestates is solid state, the valve is only in circuit on the overdrive section, when its driven by an op amp post the distortion circuit.
I don't think though that a solid state amp like this the sound wouldn't change very much due to temperature. The power efficiency maybe but certainly not any form of tone discrepancy.
I had to do a jazz concert long time ago and couldn't bring my own amp. There was a fender or Music man combo that had a broken reverb, so I had to use this. The clean tone was awful, I couldn't do the jazz I had been working so hard on. So I made the thing overdrive and people loved it, but that was not what I came to play for. I already had my rockchops down. That being said I love the 80 watt version, IT can do cleans well enough. I've sold a tone of them and the mk.1. heads too.
Again it's probably got more to do with the speaker than anything else. Since I've made this video I've been using the clean channel quite a bit and I think it sounds pretty decent with the creamback in.
This is the exact amp I got as my first "real" amp in '96, and it just sucks. It's thin and you can't break through the mix for shit. It just sits in my basement collecting dust.
@@MatthewNorthMusic Ah, yes. I must have missed that bit. What I meant was that traditionally, spring reverb tanks are suspended at the base of the amp below the speaker. I was just surprised that marshal had not put one there.
It's the long black thing mounted in the upper left hand corner of the circuit board when he has the chassis sitting on top of the amp's cabinet. He points at it at 9:40 or so.
@@MatthewNorthMusic No I didn’t - my partner used it for rhythm guitar in our band. It was adequate for that but just plain nasty sounding compared to my own Marshall Valve amps. Maybe a better speaker would have helped
Mine did that. And that's what I did. I just used a short pedal cable. It's a crack in the circuit board . There notorious for it
Awesome! The sound change completly. Please show the Creamback with more gain, close to 8 ~ 10.
Had mine since the 90’s. It’s up in a loft now but I recall it always doing that thud switching channels from new. Doesn’t mean it should of course, maybe mine is a bit dodge from the start.
Good call Matthew. All the valvestate stuff is massively underrated for a near spot on valve marshall tone. I used to use their vs power amps when i ran tne jmp 1 midi pre amp in the 90s. Billy gibbons and even the late dusty hill both used the vs powr amps too 😊
Yea there is a good ZZ rig rundown video
Hi Mat, great video thank you. i will probably follow your steps. greetings from Sarajevo
wow that creamback got me, was the original valvestate speaker a G12T-75? if I had one Id close the back of the cab
Great video.ive got the chance to pick up an 8080 at a reasonable price that’s been looked after. Would you recommend one? Maybe a valve change and a speaker change as well. If put a cream back in the 8080 would it help address the lack of bass?
Great video and new subscriber here.
I have one of these amps unused for 20yrs. Has enormously loud amount of crackle and feedback when touching controls. Presumably it will work better with a good clean of sockets and pods?
I guess you can get one for peanuts!😎 I've got a Marshall DSL20CR ( a year old ), and I changed the speaker to a Texas Heat, and now it sounds wicked! Great video! Cheers!
Yep that's kind of the point of the video decent speaker = better amp. :)
I bought one a few weeks ago for £70 and I love it. Only issue I have is that it makes a loud popping sound when I turn it off.
The popping sound is common to all solid state amps.
Great video, thanks for sharing!!!
I'm kind of surprised that you used WD-40 to clean the pots. I've always used a control cleaner with lubricant. DeOxiT makes some, but I still have an old stash of Radio Shack TV Tuner cleaner/lubricant.
It's not standard WD-40, it's WD-40 brand contact cleaner from their specialist range It's actually pretty good, cheap too at around £4.99.
I still have my Valvestate 80V. I think it's great: true spring reverb, effects loop, master volume so I can crank it and not PO the neighbours; great sounding boost channel. However... yes cleans are a bit thin, get a bit better when warmed up, and the tone controls don't do much on the clean channel. I have a cheap booster with bass and treble to thicken the clean sound. Also I've never got the reverb to work by foot switch. I never thought about changing the speaker, but I might do now. Thanks for the vid. I always like to get some insight on my equipment and know how it works.
"When warmed up"? The whole of the clean section of all the Valvestates is solid state, the valve is only in circuit on the overdrive section, when its driven by an op amp post the distortion circuit.
@@MatthewNorthMusic Well the amp doesn't stay the same temperature after I turn it on. It's not only the valve that gets warm.
I don't think though that a solid state amp like this the sound wouldn't change very much due to temperature. The power efficiency maybe but certainly not any form of tone discrepancy.
I had to do a jazz concert long time ago and couldn't bring my own amp. There was a fender or Music man combo that had a broken reverb, so I had to use this. The clean tone was awful, I couldn't do the jazz I had been working so hard on. So I made the thing overdrive and people loved it, but that was not what I came to play for. I already had my rockchops down. That being said I love the 80 watt version, IT can do cleans well enough. I've sold a tone of them and the mk.1. heads too.
Again it's probably got more to do with the speaker than anything else. Since I've made this video I've been using the clean channel quite a bit and I think it sounds pretty decent with the creamback in.
This is the exact amp I got as my first "real" amp in '96, and it just sucks. It's thin and you can't break through the mix for shit. It just sits in my basement collecting dust.
Change the speaker
I am surprised there is no reverb tank.
The reverb inside the amp I did point that out
@@MatthewNorthMusic Ah, yes. I must have missed that bit. What I meant was that traditionally, spring reverb tanks are suspended at the base of the amp below the speaker. I was just surprised that marshal had not put one there.
Guessing it was a cheaper way of doing it ?
It's the long black thing mounted in the upper left hand corner of the circuit board when he has the chassis sitting on top of the amp's cabinet. He points at it at 9:40 or so.
Valvestate with no valve in preamp? It's not 100% solid state.
It does have a valve in the OverDrive section of the preamp.
Yes, the Channel clean its a Nice clean with no Valve. And the drive channel has a Valve. I can get great sounds with effects into the clean Channel.
Hmm had one briefly years ago it was awful
Did you swap out the speaker?
@@MatthewNorthMusic No I didn’t - my partner used it for rhythm guitar in our band. It was adequate for that but just plain nasty sounding compared to my own Marshall Valve amps. Maybe a better speaker would have helped
Had a 100 watt, totally agree! Thin, weak, couldn't compete with other guitarists Laney tube amp. Just fizzled out at higher volume!