So does it mean if you wave your hand over some crackers and say "hocus pocus", It becomes the literal body of Christ, as you interpret the context of what Jesus said. So, you are saying: you have the authority over Christ to call Him back down here, to make Him into lifeness objects. So your followers can sin as much as they desire all day long, but if they eat the crackers at the end of the day, it will be just fine and dandy?
Hail and blessed be the hour and the moment in which the Son of God was born of the most pure Virgin Mary, at midnight, in Bethlehem, in the piercing cold. In that hour vouchsafe, I beseech Thee, O my God, to hear my prayer and grant my desires, [here mention your request] through the merits of Our Savior Jesus Christ, and of His blessed Mother. Amen.
I was raised a Protestant but realizing this was the impetus for my decision to become Catholic. I am in RCIA now and will partake of the Eucharist Easter '25. This is the best decision I've ever made.
@@ABC123jdMaybe because we understand how metaphors work? Jesus said, 'I am the door'. Did He continue, 'I am made of wood and you must oil my hinges? NO! He continued, 'If anyone enters by me He will be saved'. Do you believe that we enter Heaven through Him? He also said, 'I am the vine' did He continue to say that we must prune Him and water Him and pick the grapes? NO! He continued, 'without me you can do nothing'. He explained that just like branches wither when cut from the vine so we, can produce nothing good without Him. Do you believe this? He also said, 'I am the light'. Did He continue, 'You must switch me on and off'? NO! He continued, 'without me you will walk in darkness' do you believe this? Besides, He never held a door in His hand or a vine and say, ' this is my body'. He never referred to Himself as a living door and although He said He is the true vine He never said He is a living vine. But He did say, 'I am the Living Bread, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink His blood you gave no life in you.. for my flesh is true food and my blood is true drink'. Why do you not believe this? In John 6:51 Jesus makes a public promise - He says, 'I am the Living Bread and the bread I will give is my flesh'. He fulfilled that promise when at the Last Supper He gave the apostles BREAD and said, 'Eat, this is my body'. A promise that is fulfilled becomes reality not a metaphor.
@@ABC123jd Because Disciples never left Jesus when he says he's a door. They did leave when he doubled down on the Eucharist. Same with the Jewish leaders, they questioned the absurdity of the statement and Jesus doubled down. Please read or re-read John 6 and note how Jesus never alludes to it being a metaphor, to the point he allows disciples to leave his side over it. I think that, combined with other Biblical and Historical evidence Paul in the Epistle to the Corinthians (11:27-30) 27 Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of profaning the body and blood of the Lord. 28 Let a man examine himself, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup. 29 For any one who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment upon himself. 30 That is why many of you are weak and ill, and some have died. Even as Early as the early 2nd Century with Ignatius of Antioch letter to the Smyrnaeans Chapter 7 "They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they confess not the Eucharist to be the flesh of our Saviour Jesus Christ, which suffered for our sins, and which the Father, of His goodness, raised up again." Peace and God be with you
Look into classical Protestantism. Reformed, Lutheran and Anglican. None of us believe the Eucharist is just a symbol. We just all reject Transubstantiation.
The whole point of symbolism would mean that christ himself would be speaking metaphorically. In this sense, the protestant IS going with Jesus. What this cathloic has done here is called a strawman.
@@lifewasgiventous1614but now you’re changing what Jesus says to meet your criteria. If you look solely at the words, He is saying that IT IS His Body and Blood. What you’re doing is reading into the words of Christ
@timderosa7802 😂 I'm really not, though. The piece of bread was literally bread, was it not? He holds it up and tells them, "Do this in remembrance of me. ".. in these senses, the protestant is doing exactly what scripture tells him he ought to do.
Just curious, do you mean this one clip or the entire video? Did you look into the Reformed traditions and what their views on the Eucharist actually are? They all believe that Jesus is present in the Eucharist, they simply deny transubstantiation as taught by the Roman Catholic Church. Make sure you understand that when you convert to Catholicism, it includes accepting all of their teachings, including the many anathemas placed against others who confess Christ outside the “One True Church.” Thank you for reading and God bless you in your pursuit of Him!
@@DanOcchiogrosso-uj4beI agree with your point. I have talked to a lot of Roman Catholics who basically think Protestantism is like nondenominational mega churches. If you think it’s either Baptist or Catholic, then yah it make sense to be Roman Catholic. You have videos like this that perhaps unintentionally make it sound like Protestants have never read “is”
The question is what did Jesus mean when He said "eat my flesh" and "drink my blood." There is a common theme throughout the gospel of John where people are taking Jesus too literally. Nicodemus in John 3 takes Jesus too literally when He says to be born again. Yet, Jesus was speaking of spiritual rebirth. Another example is the Samaritan woman in John 4 when He speaks of water. Jesus is speaking of a spiritual water He provides that the soul will not thirst and she questions Him with her mind on physical water. Again, in John 6 about eating His flesh and drinking His blood, when His disciples say "this is a hard teaching," Jesus responds “It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life." They took Him too literally once again.
@rjyahin05 I'll go back and read to check my interpretation. But I'll also say that Leviticus strictly prohibits us from drinking the blood of any creature. It makes more sense that Jesus telling the Jews to drink His blood is figurative and not literal. He would be commanding them to sin if literal.
Agree. Catholics are very selective when we call scripture metaphorical (the creation story, for example) and when we take it literally (“real presence”). We seem to adopt doctrines first, then backfill with sort-of-confirming scriptures later. At least we get close with transubstantiation, but we go way out into left field with scriptures supporting Purgatory, Marian dogmas, etc. Catholics believe tradition is a valid source of revealed truth, so we should just say the doctrines are uniquely Catholic and borne entirely of tradition rather than scripture.
@@SknappCFA I couldn't agree more with you. Jesus specifically addresses the traditions of men in Mark 7/Matthew 15 and Matthew 23. If traditions cause you to disobey God, then they are no good. Unfortunately, I find that many Catholic traditions cause believers to do the opposite of what God commands.
Not once, not twice, not thrice....but i think its five times the reiterated Himself in professing that He is the Beead of Life. True Flesh, true Blood. We must recieve Him or we shall die eternally
@@jeffallanday no brother I think that guy just explained it poorly. It’s a memorial of what Jesus did for us and his resurrection and the last supper with all of his disciples. In this way, we are embodying his essence and honoring him through this sacrament. Have you ever had communion? This is written in the gospel why do some protestant people think this is weird when it was basically his dying wish by giving us a way to remember him by and celebrate the victory he knew he was going to have shortly after. If you really think about it, it’s the least you could do if you really have faith to Show your respect.
@@Hankkk43 So you are saying this Priest explained it poorly? I am not Catholic or Protestant. I don't think people realize it or not but many of the Protestant reformers believed the bread turns magically into flesh also. I love how people say "its written in the gospel so why don't you just believe it". Jesus also said in another place to cut off your hand if it causes you to sin yet. I mean it is written in the Gospel so why are Catholics not cutting of body parts when they sin? This issue is not whether Protestants don't read it in the gospel it is "What does he mean by what he says". You are very patronizing to people when you say those things.
@ lmao bro find that made up verse. Jesus actually approached people that sin the most to help them. Nothing in the bible says that. We’re not islomic extremist. You need to educate your self and not get gossip from tiktok buddy. I’d say I’m going to pray for you but you wouldn’t care. You’re only expressing your lack of any spiritual connection in your life and that’s a theme god will force you to go to through. Don’t think that I’m some alter boy without the ability to critically think. I am sorry you hear story’s about people who are doing what you say. All Catholics except anyone who follows Jesus. I hope you open your mind and heart to new experiences. God bless
I am so thankful for my parents and the foundation the Catholic church gave me. I didn't receive Salvation through faith in Christ until in my mid 20's, but I honestly believe I am a devout believer today, because of some beautiful Catholic hymns, and the early Sunday school teachers who sowed some very simple but powerful seeds in me. God is love, God is good. Thank You Lord!!
Amen that is why i am revert catholic by Gods mercy thru the sacrament of confession . Saved by His mercy the divine mercy spoke to my soul Amen Im forever thankful to Jesus Divine Mercy . He is near and real
@@danlopez.3592Has the visible appearance of Wine, but the substance is the precious Blood of Christ. Our Savior IS truly present in the Holy Eucharistic, as he said
Jesus is present in the Eucharist. But the bread is still bread and the wine is still wine. Think of it like wedding rings. They are given in marriage and do more than represent a commitment between a man and woman; they’re a physical sign and seal of something that is to never be broken, only by death. God is also present in that promise/covenant. But they are also physically still rings.
No it’s truly Christ body and blood. When Jesus was giving this teaching many of his followers got up and followed him. He didn’t stop them and say , not it’s merely a representation-he doubled down
I like the way my pastor put it is, yes our flesh tastes bread and wine, but our spirit/the spiritual world receives it as the true body and blood of Jesus Christ.
@danlopez.3592 In 2 Cor. 5:17 it says that anyone in Christ is a new creation. The old has passed away and the new has come. Does that mean we physically died and became a new creation? Obviously not. It's all in the spiritual world. There's so many things written throughout the Bible about the spiritual world that we can't see or feel but it's there. Yea we can't scientifically prove it, but Isn't that the whole point of faith? Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence that can't be seen (Heb. 11:1). I believe communion is a symbol of faith, is it physically the blood and body of Christ? No. But in the spiritual world, who knows it might be. Also, I'm not a Catholic so I'm not speaking on behalf of them.
I'm an Anglican and I believe Jesus. I once asked a Baptist minister friend why it is Baptists will believe that some Old Testament prophet turned the moon into green cheese but not take the words of Jesus literally.
@@DavidSmith-sb2ix When did a prophet turn the moon into green cheese? Also as a Baptist we definitely believe in miracles but there isn't a miracle every time communion takes place. If it did there would be an easy way to prove God is real to any atheist. You simply analize the product to be blood and flesh..correct?
@@Proganaut1989 That was a hypothetical situation. I could have mentioned Joshua stopping the sun and and moon or Moses parting the Red Sea. I wasn't casting doubts on Old Testament miracles, just pointing out an inconsistency in thinking. In the Eucharist the elements become the body and blood of Christ, as He said. The Roman Church believes that it is physical, although not in the sense of the elements being blood and body as we know them. Anglicans and Lutherans believe it is the true body and blood in a spiritual sense. He is truly present. Neither traditional attempts to explain it it since it is a holy mystery. My point to my friend was in an academic sense and not an attempt to belittle his faith. His reply was that that question never came up at seminary. When I asked what would have happened if it did, he said the instructor would have said I'll get to that another time.
@@Proganaut1989everytime mass takes place it becomes the body and blood of the blessed son. The Bible is a Catholic document. Do you not believe Jesus?
@Ron_Don_Valante The Bible is a Catholic document? Since when? So Moses was Catholic when he wrote the Tora? I think you didn't listen to Jesus. He say do this in REMEMBERENCE of me...not for your salvation. It was a representation of the cross about to be fullfill...same as baptism..its a representation of the born again. Its not to save you.
If I showed you a picture of my father and said "this is my father", does that mean the picture is my father ? Or does it mean the picture represents my father ? The whole context of John 6 is believing in Jesus. And believing is like eating: it's personal, it's nourrishing, it's constant (not just one time)... When Jesus said "I am the door", did his nature change to become wood or metal ? When he said "I am the good shepherd", does that mean his disciples became literal sheep ? When he said "I am the vine", did his nature change to become a vine ? Jesus uses metaphors, pictures, illustrations, to impress our minds & hearts. The bread & the wine remain bread & wine, their nature doesn't change. They represent the body & blood of Christ. To say otherwise, to say that the bread is the body of Christ that is broken again, and that the wine is the blood that is shed again, is to offer another sacrifice - the council of Trent affirmed that "in the Mass there is offered to God a true and proper sacrifice". But Jesus offered his sacrifice once and for all. Hebrews 10:12 : "But when Christ had offered for all time a single sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God..."
yes and no to this. When Jesus was speaking, he said John 6:53-56 "So Jesus said to them, 'Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you; he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him.'" "After this many of his disciples drew back and no longer went about with him." If Jesus didn't meant it literally, he would've told them before they left Him, but no, instead He let them leave, because they couldn't take it too much, they couldn't accept what was said.
Your answer should SHUT DOWN ALL FURTHER DISCUSSION. Roman Catholicism is a dead system that offers NO ASSURANCE OF SALVATION. Thus , the RC Eucharist is completely INEFFECTUAL.
I was wondering the same thing. Great question. Jesus handed them the bread and said this is my body broken for you. But yet Jesus body is still whole and not been crucified. I noticed you asked this 4 weeks ago and no one even dares to answer your great question.
@ Thank you! I’ve never gotten an answer sadly and I’ve asked it many times. If I was to get answer from a catholic and it be consistent with the belief in transubstantiation then the answer they would give would be yes. Something to think about here is if the bread and wine did become flesh and blood Jesus and his disciples would have broken a very crucial Jewish law which is to not partake of human flesh and blood. And Jesus never broke the law because He is the fulfillment of the law. Something else to think on.
@@tophernelson9283 All good thoughts. I actually had not thought about that point you bring up. The Jews he was talking to would be under the law so when Jesus said this in John he would be asking them to believe he is asking them to break Jewish law. But when you read what he said closely you realize he said 35 Then Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty". So he is clarifying what he means by being the bread of life in this same speech. He uses a lot of metaphorical language to point to spiritual things like the born again in chapter 3 and drinking living water in chapter 4. None of them are literal they are just teaching a spiritual reality. We need to feed on him and feeding on him is coming to him to receive his teaching. Receiving his teaching is eating his flesh. Drinking his blood is believing in him as the Messiah.
Oh right! I forgot Jesus never spoke in symbolism 😅 … the Lord’s Supper scene is happening right after Jesus says that he is the Vine and we are the branches and right after he compares us to virgins awaiting a bridegroom in ancient Israel. Obviously, there is room to say that Jesus was speaking is symbolism especially since he was STILL ALIVE at that point
No, there is no room for symbolism. In John 6, Jesus tells the 5000 disciples Unless you eat My Flesh and drink My Blood you have no life. He said this give times, each time more emphatically. The Jews knew that law was you could not eat flesh and drink blood together. They took Him literally and said how can this man give us his flesh and blood to eat. Jesus said, Does this shock you? The 5000 left. Jesus didn't call them back and say it was a joke or symbols. He let them leave. Why? They had just witnessed Him healing the deaf, the blind, the lepers, feeding them with a few loaves and fishes. They could believe what they could physically witness. They thought in human terms. To believe Jesus could give us His greatest miracle of Himself in the Eucharist requires being open to the Holy Spirit. Jesus was perfect and all knowing. Do you think knowing His future Church would believe He is actually present Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity in the Holy Eucharist that He would have chose His words better. St Paul said if you eat and drink the bread and wine without discerning the Body and Blood of Jesus, you bring judgement on yourself. How could you do that with a symbol? The Bible wasn't compiled by the Catholic Church till 400AD. If you research the Early Fathers and History of the Church, they all believed in the Real Presence. Even Martin Luther believed.
Yes, Jesus did speak in symbolism. But do you know the problem with your argument? Every time he spoke in symbolism he later clarified and summarised what he meant either to the crowd or to his disciples. None of that happened in Jn 6. Jesus insisted that he is the bread of life and the bread that came from heaven, and that unless you eat his flesh and drink his blood you have no life within you. Five times. And when the crowds grumbled? He doubled down. And when his disciples wanted to leave? Did he explain further? No. He dared them to leave if they wanted to. The Eucharist being really Jesus and not a symbol or something spiritual is non negotiable if you're to even call yourself a Christian. Of course it came to full fruition after the Last Supper (where he repeats this again btw, and he hadn't been glorified yet.)
@@processofelimination3099Jesus also calls himself living water, but it doesn’t mean he is actually the water. John 6:33 says “For the bread of God is he who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.” John begins his account of Jesus with “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” And then in verse 11 says “He came to his own, and his own people did not receive him.” Do you believe he is saying that Jesus is the words written on a book or sound waves of spoken words, or that he is the truth behind those words? When you feed upon the word of God do you eat the literal pages? He’s telling the people in John 6 that if you don’t receive the Word, which is himself, then you will not have eternal life. John 6:47 says “Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes has eternal life.” The word believes is key here. And John 6:51 says “I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. And the bread that I will give for the life of the world is my flesh.” Luke 22:6 says “And he took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body, which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me.” All of this is him speaking about receiving the gospel, the good news, Christ crucified. Receiving the significance of that love into your heart. Feeding upon what God did for all of us. Doing this in remembrance of the love he has given us. Remembering this love so it can transform us and conform us closer to his image. Not eating physical bread to be saved
it is a hard thing to hear. that is why so many of the disciples left Him and did not walk with Him any longer. it is also why judas decided to betray Christ. it is a very hard thing to hear.
That’s like saying, you tell me that cutting off my hand or gauging out my eye is metaphorical, but that’s what Jesus said, so do I believe you or Jesus?
( John 6:63 ) It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. I’m going with Jesus also .
Yes the bread and wine truly become the Body and Blood of Christ, it can't be understood through protestant fleshly thinking, only the Spirit will show this truth.
@@mikejames303 The most serious reason transubstantiation should be rejected is that it is viewed by the Roman Catholic Church as a "re-sacrifice" of Jesus Christ for our sins, or as a “re-offering / re-presentation” of His sacrifice. This is directly in contradiction to what Scripture says, that Jesus died "once for all" and does not need to be sacrificed again (Hebrews 10:10; 1 Peter 3:18). Hebrews 7:27 declares, "Unlike the other high priests, He (Jesus) does not need to offer sacrifices day after day, first for his own sins, and then for the sins of the people. He sacrificed for their sins ONCE for all when He offered Himself."
@@nikkocalabro924 1 Timothy 2:5 say..there's is ONE mediator between God and man..Jesus Christ. How many mediators are there? One...! If you are in heaven and people are trying to contact you...telling you to tell the Lord of your needs. Now i know the needs and i feel distress for your needs? That's not heaven. ..if you are human you lose all contact with the former world. God's hears Prayers...his angels are messengers but He is the one receiving the prayer.
@@Proganaut1989 first of all no one believes that the saints try to contact us, so that’s the first point that’s wrong. But your second point is absolutely right, there is only one mediator between us and the Father, and that is Christ. Nobody has ever been saved solely because of their prayers to the saints. The saints help bring us closer to Christ, because they are with Him. Not to mention their lives are an example of living for Christ. At the end of the day, it’s no different than asking your family or friends to pray for you. That act alone doesn’t get you saved, but if it brings you closer to Christ then I don’t see how you can object to it.
I decree and I declare in the mighty name of Yeshua hamashiach the Lion of judah enough is enough with bondage and sickness in Jesus mighty name ! Amen! Amen!
That wasn’t as good as everyone pretending it is lol. Christ Was/IS the Passover lamb…..was he a literal sheep? Or do we use wisdom and Holy Spirit to understand what scripture is talking about. Christ also said “I AM the manna that came from heaven” but yet none of us actually believe that the manna that our fathers ate was Jesus or his flesh. I pray the eyes of my Catholic friends would be opened 🙏🏻
Exactly, Jesus never used metaphors in his teaching. And when he passed around his blood and said "I will not drink of the fruit of the vine until....." he just misspoke because what he really meant was that it was really his blood. Again the Shepard, The door, the living water, the tree, the etc.... never taught with metaphors.
Didn't always specify those metaphors, parables? Didn't He stand on His words as all but the 12 walked?, & Peter told Him that He had the words of Truth? Even my KJV proves the words in RED, & didn't dare add symbol, parable, or metaphor?
Yes, why would Jesus say “For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them.” John 6:55-56 NIV
Jesus also says that the Eucharist is essential for salvation, just as Baptism. Would Jesus say that a mere symbol is essential for salvation? Really? No, the bread and wine actually become substantially the body and blood of the Christ, though not accidentally. Jesus Christ in the cross is the fruit of the Tree of Life and it empowers us to battle the sinful tendency that came with the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.
Baptism does not save nor does taking communion. Only Jesus can save. The rest are amazing gifts of that salvation. To me you people have shackles that keep you forever kneeling before men in robes.
@darylhamby1219 How can Jesus save you if you are not baptized. Jesus speaks plainly in the gospels: you need to be born again from water and the spirit in order to be saved. I do not know what you mean by you people, but that is far from kneeling before anyone, but following what scripture istelf reveals.
@@darylhamby1219 Baptism is necessary for salvation. I do not even know what you want to say with that. Probably you are protestant and believe that salvation is reached only through faith and that baptism should come after that. You are mistaken, that is not in accordance with scripture nor with tradition.
@ There isn’t a lot to say except I do disagree with you. I am assuming you are referring to being “born of water” which your people interpret as baptism. I do not interpret it that way. Baptism is the first thing we are called upon to do in following Christ in obedience. Tradition is used in many ways by many people. Some sincerely, such as you, and others not so much. Traditions can be used in ways that are not holy. Why is Christ not enough?
What does the Eucharist do for you spiritually speaking? (Please Answer specifically)I don’t partake in the Eucharist, but God has opened my spiritual eyes, and has done mighty miracles, and deliverances in my life, and I know it was done by His mighty hand. How do you explain? Remember For God so loved the world that He gave his one and only begotten Son, for anyone who believes in Him will not perish but will have everlasting life.
@Commentapologetics but even that isnt biblical. Jesus says "do this in remembrance of me". Its to keep Him fresh in our minds. No where does it say it is necessary for salvation. When we believe in Him and receive the Holy Spirit we are filled with him Eating bread and drinking wine doesnt not fill us up in that manner but taking the time to remember the last supper and everything he was prepared to do and did for us is what feeds us to stay strong. Its not about traditions. Its about relationship.if you approach communion or the eucharist with the wrong heart or without repentance, its meaningless anyways
@@toast022 I only agree with your last points. However It’s not just about a relationship. That kind of thinking leads you to reject any authority. We seek a relationship with him on HIS terms, not our own. Christ established his church and the earliest christian’s that learned from the apostles themselves held to the Catholic view of the Eucharist
@Commentapologetics but thay goes hand in hand. Being in relationship with him means following his authority and commands. Jesus taught in parables and with symbolism all the time. I just dont see anything that says its his real blood and body besides one verse that people seem to debate about whether he was speaking factually or in metaphors.
@Commentapologetics whether it is his physical blood and body or not, i still follow that command and submit to him. Salvation doesnt come from communion. That is clearly stated in other places in the bible. So when he talks about eating of his flesh and drinking of his blood or you have no life in you, That has to be taken as symbolism otherwise its pure contradiction and nothing makes sense after that.
Understanding that we are saved by grace, through faith, apart from works (Ephesians 2:8-9) and considering Jesus’ words concerning the elements of communion to be figurative, we focus on the beauty of the new covenant (Matthew 26:28) brought into effect by Jesus’ own blood. We remember His sacrifice for us as often as we partake of the Lord’s Table (Luke 22:19). And we look forward to once again sharing the cup with Christ in the kingdom of God (Matthew 26:29; Mark 14:25; Luke 22:18).
Eucharist miracles need to be researched and publicized on a bigger scale. Every argument I've had about the Eucharist always winds up hitting the same wall 'not enough peer reviewed articles' if the church invested seriously in publication of peer reviewed scientific articles I think it would convince more souls.
The only “peer review” Jesus requires of us is to repent and believe in His death for the forgiveness of our sins, burial and resurrection which proves He is God! The “article” that God wrote is available to all who want to get to know Him through this divine book, the Bible. Catholics make this far more confusing and complicated than Jesus did. God is “not a god of confusion.” The Enemy confuses, complicates and deceives. Jesus doesn’t.
@onlyimagine4 I appreciate your point but feel you're missing what I'm saying. Supernatural occurrence has converted many souls, it obviously has place in Gods plan. Most unbelievers will say they don't believe because they don't see any evidence. Modern minds want proof and trust the scientific method. If we provide researched scientific studies that can not be debunked then it's a good starting point for debate.
This is called rhetoric not logic. Of course that’s what Jesus said. No one is debating that. What did Jesus mean? He often said things that go much deeper than the surface words indicate. Otherwise, Peter should have been feeding literal lambs and sheep….
Why do some Protestants believe the Bible is so literal that they think the story of genesis was a word for word historical account and the earth is only 6000 years old and yet when Jesus said this IS MY BODY they say well he only meant that symbolically?
Cause to many of us we read it as a figure of speech cause he would not ever command anything contrary to scripture as cannibalism is sin. And Jesus uses many metaphors to describe himself. But that's just our point of view if you hold to transubstantiation then have at it. 🤙
And it also says we are the body of Christ as a church, and Jesus also says he is the door, just because he said he is something doesn’t mean he literally meant it. So don’t know if that is a fair argument, in and of itself. You would have to prove that He literally meant it not just that he said it.
If it was a symbol, why did He let the 5,000 leave. They took Him literally. Read the Early Church Fathers those who knew Jesus, the Apostles, the disciples. They all wrote and believed in the Real Presence of Jesus in the Eucharist.
Wait a minute.. what about the last supper? The one recorded moment he said this is my body and this is my blood, he was still alive, here in flesh. He said do this in rememberabce of me. It's a ritual done to commemorate his sacrifice, not to ingest his actual blood and body.
@@rebn8346 Well…. I guess love just oozes out from every Protestant’s lips & hearts, yes? Let the texts and comments show in every Catholic video from almost every Protestant that come in; not to understand or learn or research but to JUDGE.
@@Love_Divine if you feel judged over something Jesus said...I guess let show that you aren't here to learn, but JUDGE the boundaries created by Christ for a relationship.
Jesus called the bread His body, He was physically present with His disciples, His body unbroken. How could He literally offer His broken body to His disciples the night before He died?
I remember when Jesus said.” Truly twist thyself into a pretzel, and thy logic also, so that you make mock your brothers in order to shield your invented traditions from criticism.”
If you are going to claim that a supernatural being has an effect in the world, then you must be able to measure it. Show me the measurement and I’ll believe in your supernatural power.
“And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body. And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; for this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.” Matthew 26:26-29
@ClansmanK The meaning is not that one can go to the Rocky Mountains and move it in the Sea. It means: "The mountains (troubles) in our life. To give them in God's Hand. He can remove them. I lived 2 years without any form of income, with 11 small children from one mariage. We had everything we needed every day. God our Lord provided all we needed in a miraculous way
In Matthew 5 verse 29, the bible says : "If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell." Does that mean I literally have to throw my eye away ? Not at all. Jesus speaks a lot with parables so that people can better understand his message. Plus, since Martin Luther, the symbolic aspect of the eucharist was reaffirmed. Thus, in Luke 22 verse 19 the bible says: "And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me.”
Fair point, however Jesus also said that he was: Bread, a light, a door, the good shepard, and a vine. So out of all of these instances of metaphorical language, why is it that Catholics believe the Eucharist is literally His body and blood?
- not to mention many followers had a hard time with this teaching and left. Jesus didn't stop them or say this is a misunderstanding or being hyperbolic here.
Do you “go with Jesus” when he states if your eye causes you to sin, then pluck it out? Obviously Jesus uses symbolism and metaphors. Using your argument, one could justify plucking their eyes out thinking, Jesus said it and I’m gonna go with Jesus. Certainly he was using strong words to symbolize the seriousness of sin and to cut it off at the root. As for the last supper, I don’t see how one could not see that it is symbolic. He is offering His real flesh and blood at the cross, not at the dinner table. He wants us to remember His sacrifice and symbolically offers His flesh and blood during the last supper to show how His body will be broken for us and His blood shed for us. Certainly NOT his real flesh and blood considering drinking actual blood is a sin. But what do I know, I’m not a scholar.
This is what I've been saying..... I'm not a fan of Sola Scriptura..... But even the scriptures clearly say that Jesus said, "This is my Body....This is my Blood"
I would say, Keep Reading! You’ll get to the part where Jesus says “my words are Spirit”. Now if Jesus says His words are Spirit, but you say they’re not,,, who should I believe, you or Jesus?
The thing about this is that you can 100% believe in the Eucharist without deciding to convert to Catholicism. Yeah ok communion is the real body and blood of Jesus, I’m not about to pray to Mary just because of this revelation.
Sad you take one verse out of context and make it the entire source and summit of your denomination. Proves you haven’t studied the Bible. You’ve just read it or had it read to you by bishops since the Holy Spirit “can’t interpret it for us” as God said He would. You’ve been deceived into believing only a man can interpret it for you.
The question I have is was Jesus talking about something other than his physical body when he said this is my body because we know that his physical body does not exist anymore he has a new body so how do we partake of his physical body when it's not there anymore
We take the symbols as a remembrance for Jesus's body and blood that was given up for the price of our sins. He used parables often and in that moment he said do this in remembrance. You should participate in communion but not necessarily the Eucurist
What would be your rebuttal to how Jesus most often only spoke in parables or in symbols? Like when he says to chop off your hand, he says he is “the true vine”. All of that is symbolic, so what separates us from that? Truly asking🤔
Jesus used parables all the time. He meant it Spiritually. He used the wine and bread to put it into terms humans would understand. Test the wine and it will be wine and test the bread and it will be bread. It" represents him and represents the act.
Yes, the problem is that Jesus ALSO says that it is bread. Do you believe both statements of Jesus that it is Jesus' Body and it is bread, or do you only believe one statement of Jesus? Most Protestants have believed we truly receive Jesus body and blood in the Eucharist, but they also believe that it is truly bread and wine.
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So does it mean if you wave your hand over some crackers and say "hocus pocus", It becomes the literal body of Christ, as you interpret the context of what Jesus said. So, you are saying: you have the authority over Christ to call Him back down here, to make Him into lifeness objects. So your followers can sin as much as they desire all day long, but if they eat the crackers at the end of the day, it will be just fine and dandy?
You’ll pay for that Mr.
Hail and blessed be the hour and the moment in which the Son of God was born of the most pure Virgin Mary, at midnight, in Bethlehem, in the piercing cold. In that hour vouchsafe, I beseech Thee, O my God, to hear my prayer and grant my desires,
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through the merits of Our Savior Jesus Christ, and of His blessed Mother. Amen.
I was raised a Protestant but realizing this was the impetus for my decision to become Catholic. I am in RCIA now and will partake of the Eucharist Easter '25.
This is the best decision I've ever made.
I'm going to go with Jesus, too. Thank you, Father.
Do you also believe that Jesus is a wooden door? Why do you go with Jesus when he says he's a piece of bread but not when he says he's a door?
@@ABC123jd Because TRULY, TRULY I tell you, Jesus is telling us the Truth. TRULY, TRULY, I tell you.
@@ABC123jdMaybe because we understand how metaphors work? Jesus said, 'I am the door'. Did He continue, 'I am made of wood and you must oil my hinges? NO! He continued, 'If anyone enters by me He will be saved'. Do you believe that we enter Heaven through Him?
He also said, 'I am the vine' did He continue to say that we must prune Him and water Him and pick the grapes? NO! He continued, 'without me you can do nothing'. He explained that just like branches wither when cut from the vine so we, can produce nothing good without Him. Do you believe this?
He also said, 'I am the light'. Did He continue, 'You must switch me on and off'? NO! He continued, 'without me you will walk in darkness' do you believe this?
Besides, He never held a door in His hand or a vine and say, ' this is my body'. He never referred to Himself as a living door and although He said He is the true vine He never said He is a living vine.
But He did say, 'I am the Living Bread, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink His blood you gave no life in you.. for my flesh is true food and my blood is true drink'. Why do you not believe this?
In John 6:51 Jesus makes a public promise - He says, 'I am the Living Bread and the bread I will give is my flesh'. He fulfilled that promise when at the Last Supper He gave the apostles BREAD and said, 'Eat, this is my body'. A promise that is fulfilled becomes reality not a metaphor.
@@ABC123jd Because Disciples never left Jesus when he says he's a door.
They did leave when he doubled down on the Eucharist. Same with the Jewish leaders, they questioned the absurdity of the statement and Jesus doubled down.
Please read or re-read John 6 and note how Jesus never alludes to it being a metaphor, to the point he allows disciples to leave his side over it.
I think that, combined with other Biblical and Historical evidence
Paul in the Epistle to the Corinthians (11:27-30)
27 Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of profaning the body and blood of the Lord. 28 Let a man examine himself, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup. 29 For any one who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment upon himself. 30 That is why many of you are weak and ill, and some have died.
Even as Early as the early 2nd Century with Ignatius of Antioch letter to the Smyrnaeans Chapter 7
"They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they confess not the Eucharist to be the flesh of our Saviour Jesus Christ, which suffered for our sins, and which the Father, of His goodness, raised up again."
Peace and God be with you
Thank you Father? Remember when Jesus said call no man Father…?
I'm a protestant, and I never actually thought of it like this. Thank you
Look into classical Protestantism. Reformed, Lutheran and Anglican. None of us believe the Eucharist is just a symbol. We just all reject Transubstantiation.
The whole point of symbolism would mean that christ himself would be speaking metaphorically. In this sense, the protestant IS going with Jesus. What this cathloic has done here is called a strawman.
@@lifewasgiventous1614but now you’re changing what Jesus says to meet your criteria. If you look solely at the words, He is saying that IT IS His Body and Blood. What you’re doing is reading into the words of Christ
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😂 I'm really not, though. The piece of bread was literally bread, was it not? He holds it up and tells them, "Do this in remembrance of me. ".. in these senses, the protestant is doing exactly what scripture tells him he ought to do.
@emilianoking9400 youre all heretics 😂
This video single handedly changed my entire view on the Eucharist… I watched it for the first time about a year ago and I’m Catholic now
Amen
Just curious, do you mean this one clip or the entire video? Did you look into the Reformed traditions and what their views on the Eucharist actually are? They all believe that Jesus is present in the Eucharist, they simply deny transubstantiation as taught by the Roman Catholic Church. Make sure you understand that when you convert to Catholicism, it includes accepting all of their teachings, including the many anathemas placed against others who confess Christ outside the “One True Church.”
Thank you for reading and God bless you in your pursuit of Him!
turn back and read scripture and find how false the catholic church is
@@DanOcchiogrosso-uj4beI agree with your point. I have talked to a lot of Roman Catholics who basically think Protestantism is like nondenominational mega churches. If you think it’s either Baptist or Catholic, then yah it make sense to be Roman Catholic. You have videos like this that perhaps unintentionally make it sound like Protestants have never read “is”
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Short and sweet, that's our Fr Mike ❤
The question is what did Jesus mean when He said "eat my flesh" and "drink my blood." There is a common theme throughout the gospel of John where people are taking Jesus too literally. Nicodemus in John 3 takes Jesus too literally when He says to be born again. Yet, Jesus was speaking of spiritual rebirth. Another example is the Samaritan woman in John 4 when He speaks of water. Jesus is speaking of a spiritual water He provides that the soul will not thirst and she questions Him with her mind on physical water. Again, in John 6 about eating His flesh and drinking His blood, when His disciples say "this is a hard teaching," Jesus responds “It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life." They took Him too literally once again.
Yet the passage is not pnly in John. Also Matthew, Mark, Luke.
Your “interpretation” might have making you say it’s only figurative.
@rjyahin05 I'll go back and read to check my interpretation. But I'll also say that Leviticus strictly prohibits us from drinking the blood of any creature. It makes more sense that Jesus telling the Jews to drink His blood is figurative and not literal. He would be commanding them to sin if literal.
Agree. Catholics are very selective when we call scripture metaphorical (the creation story, for example) and when we take it literally (“real presence”). We seem to adopt doctrines first, then backfill with sort-of-confirming scriptures later. At least we get close with transubstantiation, but we go way out into left field with scriptures supporting Purgatory, Marian dogmas, etc. Catholics believe tradition is a valid source of revealed truth, so we should just say the doctrines are uniquely Catholic and borne entirely of tradition rather than scripture.
@@SknappCFA I couldn't agree more with you. Jesus specifically addresses the traditions of men in Mark 7/Matthew 15 and Matthew 23. If traditions cause you to disobey God, then they are no good. Unfortunately, I find that many Catholic traditions cause believers to do the opposite of what God commands.
@@nola504mattif he is the Word😂 doesn’t it mean to read the Bible
Not once, not twice, not thrice....but i think its five times the reiterated Himself in professing that He is the Beead of Life. True Flesh, true Blood. We must recieve Him or we shall die eternally
receive Him how? Because it sounds like the Catholic is saying you need to eat his flesh yet all I see them eat is a thin wafer.
@jeffallanday eyes of the world see bread. Eyes of Faith see the Lord. It is His Word and cannot be denied
@@jeffallanday no brother I think that guy just explained it poorly. It’s a memorial of what Jesus did for us and his resurrection and the last supper with all of his disciples. In this way, we are embodying his essence and honoring him through this sacrament. Have you ever had communion? This is written in the gospel why do some protestant people think this is weird when it was basically his dying wish by giving us a way to remember him by and celebrate the victory he knew he was going to have shortly after. If you really think about it, it’s the least you could do if you really have faith to Show your respect.
@@Hankkk43 So you are saying this Priest explained it poorly? I am not Catholic or Protestant. I don't think people realize it or not but many of the Protestant reformers believed the bread turns magically into flesh also. I love how people say "its written in the gospel so why don't you just believe it". Jesus also said in another place to cut off your hand if it causes you to sin yet. I mean it is written in the Gospel so why are Catholics not cutting of body parts when they sin? This issue is not whether Protestants don't read it in the gospel it is "What does he mean by what he says". You are very patronizing to people when you say those things.
@ lmao bro find that made up verse. Jesus actually approached people that sin the most to help them. Nothing in the bible says that. We’re not islomic extremist. You need to educate your self and not get gossip from tiktok buddy. I’d say I’m going to pray for you but you wouldn’t care. You’re only expressing your lack of any spiritual connection in your life and that’s a theme god will force you to go to through. Don’t think that I’m some alter boy without the ability to critically think. I am sorry you hear story’s about people who are doing what you say. All Catholics except anyone who follows Jesus. I hope you open your mind and heart to new experiences. God bless
we love you Father. I am going with Jesus's words!❤
I love this! I'm going to believe the One True God over anyone else.
Simply put.👍 It's enough for me.
Yep, I'm going with Jesus....well said Fr.Mike 🙌
So when Jesus says he is the door, does he have literal hinges and a doorknob or did Jesus speak a lot in metaphor?
Silence from the catholics 😂
I am so thankful for my parents and the foundation the Catholic church gave me. I didn't receive Salvation through faith in Christ until in my mid 20's, but I honestly believe I am a devout believer today, because of some beautiful Catholic hymns, and the early Sunday school teachers who sowed some very simple but powerful seeds in me. God is love, God is good. Thank You Lord!!
Thank you Father, Oh brilliant, that fact is the true response.
Amen that is why i am revert catholic by Gods mercy thru the sacrament of confession . Saved by His mercy the divine mercy spoke to my soul Amen
Im forever thankful to Jesus Divine Mercy . He is near and real
You think it’s actually blood? Are you insane?
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@@velocity4246 they really think that I’m not making it up
@@danlopez.3592Has the visible appearance of Wine, but the substance is the precious Blood of Christ.
Our Savior IS truly present in the Holy Eucharistic, as he said
@ is this something we can physically measure or are you talking about something that is in our mind only?
When I was going for adoration, how I wish everyone can come... He's really here. ❤❤❤
Lutherans are Protestant and they do the Eucharist and believe it is the body and blood of Christ
Thank you Father Mike Schmitz
Thank you, Jesus, for leaving us the sacraments.
Thank you, Fr. Schmitz, for saying "Yes" to our Father
Jesus is present in the Eucharist. But the bread is still bread and the wine is still wine.
Think of it like wedding rings. They are given in marriage and do more than represent a commitment between a man and woman; they’re a physical sign and seal of something that is to never be broken, only by death. God is also present in that promise/covenant. But they are also physically still rings.
No it’s truly Christ body and blood. When Jesus was giving this teaching many of his followers got up and followed him. He didn’t stop them and say , not it’s merely a representation-he doubled down
Ummm. No. We can scientifically test it. Definitely not blood.
I like the way my pastor put it is, yes our flesh tastes bread and wine, but our spirit/the spiritual world receives it as the true body and blood of Jesus Christ.
@ basically , you are just making that up in your head. Which is obvious but needs to be stated.
@danlopez.3592 In 2 Cor. 5:17 it says that anyone in Christ is a new creation. The old has passed away and the new has come. Does that mean we physically died and became a new creation? Obviously not. It's all in the spiritual world. There's so many things written throughout the Bible about the spiritual world that we can't see or feel but it's there. Yea we can't scientifically prove it, but Isn't that the whole point of faith? Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence that can't be seen (Heb. 11:1). I believe communion is a symbol of faith, is it physically the blood and body of Christ? No. But in the spiritual world, who knows it might be. Also, I'm not a Catholic so I'm not speaking on behalf of them.
Love you Fr Mike. You speak TRUTH
I am going with what Jesus said. Thanks father.
Amen I believe in Jesus Christ presence i🙏🏼🕊️🙏🏼
The content of the video is great, thank you!
I'm an Anglican and I believe Jesus. I once asked a Baptist minister friend why it is Baptists will believe that some Old Testament prophet turned the moon into green cheese but not take the words of Jesus literally.
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When did a prophet turn the moon into green cheese? Also as a Baptist we definitely believe in miracles but there isn't a miracle every time communion takes place.
If it did there would be an easy way to prove God is real to any atheist. You simply analize the product to be blood and flesh..correct?
@@Proganaut1989 That was a hypothetical situation. I could have mentioned Joshua stopping the sun and and moon or Moses parting the Red Sea. I wasn't casting doubts on Old Testament miracles, just pointing out an inconsistency in thinking.
In the Eucharist the elements become the body and blood of Christ, as He said. The Roman Church believes that it is physical, although not in the sense of the elements being blood and body as we know them. Anglicans and Lutherans believe it is the true body and blood in a spiritual sense. He is truly present. Neither traditional attempts to explain it it since it is a holy mystery.
My point to my friend was in an academic sense and not an attempt to belittle his faith. His reply was that that question never came up at seminary. When I asked what would have happened if it did, he said the instructor would have said I'll get to that another time.
anglican = cringe
@@Proganaut1989everytime mass takes place it becomes the body and blood of the blessed son. The Bible is a Catholic document. Do you not believe Jesus?
@Ron_Don_Valante
The Bible is a Catholic document? Since when?
So Moses was Catholic when he wrote the Tora?
I think you didn't listen to Jesus. He say do this in REMEMBERENCE of me...not for your salvation.
It was a representation of the cross about to be fullfill...same as baptism..its a representation of the born again. Its not to save you.
So it was his blood and body when he gave it to the disciples in the upper room?
Just like baptism isn’t really dying. It’s a SYMBOL
I was the 1k like ❤ praise the Lord he is with us every day in the Eucharist
If I showed you a picture of my father and said "this is my father", does that mean the picture is my father ?
Or does it mean the picture represents my father ?
The whole context of John 6 is believing in Jesus.
And believing is like eating: it's personal, it's nourrishing, it's constant (not just one time)...
When Jesus said "I am the door", did his nature change to become wood or metal ?
When he said "I am the good shepherd", does that mean his disciples became literal sheep ?
When he said "I am the vine", did his nature change to become a vine ?
Jesus uses metaphors, pictures, illustrations, to impress our minds & hearts.
The bread & the wine remain bread & wine, their nature doesn't change. They represent the body & blood of Christ.
To say otherwise, to say that the bread is the body of Christ that is broken again, and that the wine is the blood that is shed again, is to offer another sacrifice - the council of Trent affirmed that "in the Mass there is offered to God a true and proper sacrifice". But Jesus offered his sacrifice once and for all.
Hebrews 10:12 : "But when Christ had offered for all time a single sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God..."
False and non-Christian understanding. He could have said this represents my body, but he didn't.
yes and no to this.
When Jesus was speaking, he said
John 6:53-56
"So Jesus said to them, 'Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you; he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him.'"
"After this many of his disciples drew back and no longer went about with him."
If Jesus didn't meant it literally, he would've told them before they left Him, but no, instead He let them leave, because they couldn't take it too much, they couldn't accept what was said.
Remember in the first words Jesus spoke was "Truly truly I say to you"
If it wasn't literally, then it's not True.
At the last supper did the bread and wine become the flesh and blood of Jesus?
Your answer should SHUT DOWN ALL FURTHER DISCUSSION. Roman Catholicism is a dead system that offers NO ASSURANCE OF SALVATION. Thus , the RC Eucharist is completely INEFFECTUAL.
I was wondering the same thing. Great question. Jesus handed them the bread and said this is my body broken for you. But yet Jesus body is still whole and not been crucified. I noticed you asked this 4 weeks ago and no one even dares to answer your great question.
@ Thank you! I’ve never gotten an answer sadly and I’ve asked it many times. If I was to get answer from a catholic and it be consistent with the belief in transubstantiation then the answer they would give would be yes. Something to think about here is if the bread and wine did become flesh and blood Jesus and his disciples would have broken a very crucial Jewish law which is to not partake of human flesh and blood. And Jesus never broke the law because He is the fulfillment of the law. Something else to think on.
@@tophernelson9283 All good thoughts. I actually had not thought about that point you bring up. The Jews he was talking to would be under the law so when Jesus said this in John he would be asking them to believe he is asking them to break Jewish law. But when you read what he said closely you realize he said 35 Then Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty". So he is clarifying what he means by being the bread of life in this same speech. He uses a lot of metaphorical language to point to spiritual things like the born again in chapter 3 and drinking living water in chapter 4. None of them are literal they are just teaching a spiritual reality. We need to feed on him and feeding on him is coming to him to receive his teaching. Receiving his teaching is eating his flesh. Drinking his blood is believing in him as the Messiah.
Jesus is the Way and the Life.. Amen.. ❤ I Go with Jesus!!!
Oh right! I forgot Jesus never spoke in symbolism 😅 … the Lord’s Supper scene is happening right after Jesus says that he is the Vine and we are the branches and right after he compares us to virgins awaiting a bridegroom in ancient Israel. Obviously, there is room to say that Jesus was speaking is symbolism especially since he was STILL ALIVE at that point
Correct.
No, there is no room for symbolism. In John 6, Jesus tells the 5000 disciples Unless you eat My Flesh and drink My Blood you have no life. He said this give times, each time more emphatically. The Jews knew that law was you could not eat flesh and drink blood together. They took Him literally and said how can this man give us his flesh and blood to eat. Jesus said, Does this shock you? The 5000 left. Jesus didn't call them back and say it was a joke or symbols. He let them leave. Why? They had just witnessed Him healing the deaf, the blind, the lepers, feeding them with a few loaves and fishes. They could believe what they could physically witness. They thought in human terms. To believe Jesus could give us His greatest miracle of Himself in the Eucharist requires being open to the Holy Spirit. Jesus was perfect and all knowing. Do you think knowing His future Church would believe He is actually present Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity in the Holy Eucharist that He would have chose His words better. St Paul said if you eat and drink the bread and wine without discerning the Body and Blood of Jesus, you bring judgement on yourself. How could you do that with a symbol?
The Bible wasn't compiled by the Catholic Church till 400AD. If you research the Early Fathers and History of the Church, they all believed in the Real Presence. Even Martin Luther believed.
Yes, Jesus did speak in symbolism. But do you know the problem with your argument? Every time he spoke in symbolism he later clarified and summarised what he meant either to the crowd or to his disciples.
None of that happened in Jn 6. Jesus insisted that he is the bread of life and the bread that came from heaven, and that unless you eat his flesh and drink his blood you have no life within you. Five times. And when the crowds grumbled? He doubled down. And when his disciples wanted to leave? Did he explain further? No. He dared them to leave if they wanted to.
The Eucharist being really Jesus and not a symbol or something spiritual is non negotiable if you're to even call yourself a Christian.
Of course it came to full fruition after the Last Supper (where he repeats this again btw, and he hadn't been glorified yet.)
@@processofelimination3099Jesus also calls himself living water, but it doesn’t mean he is actually the water. John 6:33 says “For the bread of God is he who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.” John begins his account of Jesus with “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” And then in verse 11 says “He came to his own, and his own people did not receive him.” Do you believe he is saying that Jesus is the words written on a book or sound waves of spoken words, or that he is the truth behind those words? When you feed upon the word of God do you eat the literal pages? He’s telling the people in John 6 that if you don’t receive the Word, which is himself, then you will not have eternal life. John 6:47 says “Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes has eternal life.” The word believes is key here. And John 6:51 says “I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. And the bread that I will give for the life of the world is my flesh.” Luke 22:6 says “And he took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body, which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me.” All of this is him speaking about receiving the gospel, the good news, Christ crucified. Receiving the significance of that love into your heart. Feeding upon what God did for all of us. Doing this in remembrance of the love he has given us. Remembering this love so it can transform us and conform us closer to his image. Not eating physical bread to be saved
it is a hard thing to hear. that is why so many of the disciples left Him and did not walk with Him any longer. it is also why judas decided to betray Christ. it is a very hard thing to hear.
That’s like saying, you tell me that cutting off my hand or gauging out my eye is metaphorical, but that’s what Jesus said, so do I believe you or Jesus?
God bless you! Thank you!
Jesus for the win!!❤
( John 6:63 ) It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. I’m going with Jesus also .
OUR flesh profits nothing. Truth.
Yes the bread and wine truly become the Body and Blood of Christ, it can't be understood through protestant fleshly thinking, only the Spirit will show this truth.
@@mikejames303 2 Cor 11:26 “For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come”
@@donthephoneman7084 correct, which is at odds with the protestant misunderstanding of the eucharist.
@@mikejames303 The most serious reason transubstantiation should be rejected is that it is viewed by the Roman Catholic Church as a "re-sacrifice" of Jesus Christ for our sins, or as a “re-offering / re-presentation” of His sacrifice. This is directly in contradiction to what Scripture says, that Jesus died "once for all" and does not need to be sacrificed again (Hebrews 10:10; 1 Peter 3:18). Hebrews 7:27 declares, "Unlike the other high priests, He (Jesus) does not need to offer sacrifices day after day, first for his own sins, and then for the sins of the people. He sacrificed for their sins ONCE for all when He offered Himself."
He’s one of my favorites. Stumbled into him in Saint Ignatius of Loyola Church in Rome.
Based St. Bellarmine!
St. Bellarmine, pray for us
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Dont ask dead people to pray for you...they can't hear you
@@Proganaut1989God is not the God of the dead but of the living. So again, St. Bellarmine, pray for us!
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1 Timothy 2:5 say..there's is ONE mediator between God and man..Jesus Christ.
How many mediators are there? One...!
If you are in heaven and people are trying to contact you...telling you to tell the Lord of your needs.
Now i know the needs and i feel distress for your needs? That's not heaven. ..if you are human you lose all contact with the former world. God's hears Prayers...his angels are messengers but He is the one receiving the prayer.
@@Proganaut1989 first of all no one believes that the saints try to contact us, so that’s the first point that’s wrong. But your second point is absolutely right, there is only one mediator between us and the Father, and that is Christ. Nobody has ever been saved solely because of their prayers to the saints. The saints help bring us closer to Christ, because they are with Him. Not to mention their lives are an example of living for Christ. At the end of the day, it’s no different than asking your family or friends to pray for you. That act alone doesn’t get you saved, but if it brings you closer to Christ then I don’t see how you can object to it.
@@Proganaut1989mediator means Jesus reconciled man back to God through his sacrifice, it has nothing to do with prayer
I decree and I declare in the mighty name of Yeshua hamashiach the Lion of judah enough is enough with bondage and sickness in Jesus mighty name ! Amen! Amen!
That wasn’t as good as everyone pretending it is lol. Christ Was/IS the Passover lamb…..was he a literal sheep? Or do we use wisdom and Holy Spirit to understand what scripture is talking about.
Christ also said “I AM the manna that came from heaven” but yet none of us actually believe that the manna that our fathers ate was Jesus or his flesh. I pray the eyes of my Catholic friends would be opened 🙏🏻
Exactly, Jesus never used metaphors in his teaching. And when he passed around his blood and said "I will not drink of the fruit of the vine until....." he just misspoke because what he really meant was that it was really his blood. Again the Shepard, The door, the living water, the tree, the etc.... never taught with metaphors.
Didn't always specify those metaphors, parables? Didn't He stand on His words as all but the 12 walked?, & Peter told Him that He had the words of Truth? Even my KJV proves the words in RED, & didn't dare add symbol, parable, or metaphor?
Wait... what about his parables?
Yes, why would Jesus say “For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them.”
John 6:55-56 NIV
Jesus also says that the Eucharist is essential for salvation, just as Baptism. Would Jesus say that a mere symbol is essential for salvation? Really? No, the bread and wine actually become substantially the body and blood of the Christ, though not accidentally. Jesus Christ in the cross is the fruit of the Tree of Life and it empowers us to battle the sinful tendency that came with the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.
Baptism does not save nor does taking communion. Only Jesus can save. The rest are amazing gifts of that salvation. To me you people have shackles that keep you forever kneeling before men in robes.
@darylhamby1219 How can Jesus save you if you are not baptized. Jesus speaks plainly in the gospels: you need to be born again from water and the spirit in order to be saved. I do not know what you mean by you people, but that is far from kneeling before anyone, but following what scripture istelf reveals.
@ Baptism is the first order of obedience after salvation.
@@darylhamby1219 Baptism is necessary for salvation. I do not even know what you want to say with that. Probably you are protestant and believe that salvation is reached only through faith and that baptism should come after that. You are mistaken, that is not in accordance with scripture nor with tradition.
@ There isn’t a lot to say except I do disagree with you. I am assuming you are referring to being “born of water” which your people interpret as baptism. I do not interpret it that way. Baptism is the first thing we are called upon to do in following Christ in obedience. Tradition is used in many ways by many people. Some sincerely, such as you, and others not so much. Traditions can be used in ways that are not holy. Why is Christ not enough?
John 10:9 Jesus says ‘I AM the door’, therefore Jesus must also literally be a door?
Not all Protestants hold that view.
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What does the Eucharist do for you spiritually speaking? (Please Answer specifically)I don’t partake in the Eucharist, but God has opened my spiritual eyes, and has done mighty miracles, and deliverances in my life, and I know it was done by His mighty hand. How do you explain? Remember For God so loved the world that He gave his one and only begotten Son, for anyone who believes in Him will not perish but will have everlasting life.
The Eucharist is complete unity with Christ. You receive him into you. It’s like the manna from the desert however with the eucharist you have life
@Commentapologetics but even that isnt biblical. Jesus says "do this in remembrance of me". Its to keep Him fresh in our minds. No where does it say it is necessary for salvation. When we believe in Him and receive the Holy Spirit we are filled with him
Eating bread and drinking wine doesnt not fill us up in that manner but taking the time to remember the last supper and everything he was prepared to do and did for us is what feeds us to stay strong. Its not about traditions. Its about relationship.if you approach communion or the eucharist with the wrong heart or without repentance, its meaningless anyways
@@toast022 I only agree with your last points. However It’s not just about a relationship. That kind of thinking leads you to reject any authority. We seek a relationship with him on HIS terms, not our own. Christ established his church and the earliest christian’s that learned from the apostles themselves held to the Catholic view of the Eucharist
@Commentapologetics but thay goes hand in hand. Being in relationship with him means following his authority and commands. Jesus taught in parables and with symbolism all the time. I just dont see anything that says its his real blood and body besides one verse that people seem to debate about whether he was speaking factually or in metaphors.
@Commentapologetics whether it is his physical blood and body or not, i still follow that command and submit to him. Salvation doesnt come from communion. That is clearly stated in other places in the bible. So when he talks about eating of his flesh and drinking of his blood or you have no life in you, That has to be taken as symbolism otherwise its pure contradiction and nothing makes sense after that.
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Understanding that we are saved by grace, through faith, apart from works (Ephesians 2:8-9) and considering Jesus’ words concerning the elements of communion to be figurative, we focus on the beauty of the new covenant (Matthew 26:28) brought into effect by Jesus’ own blood. We remember His sacrifice for us as often as we partake of the Lord’s Table (Luke 22:19). And we look forward to once again sharing the cup with Christ in the kingdom of God (Matthew 26:29; Mark 14:25; Luke 22:18).
God bless you fr always may his mercy be upon you Jesus I need you every now and then.
Jesus said John the Baptist was Eliah. So should we believe in reincarnation now or just metaphors?
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Eucharist miracles need to be researched and publicized on a bigger scale. Every argument I've had about the Eucharist always winds up hitting the same wall 'not enough peer reviewed articles' if the church invested seriously in publication of peer reviewed scientific articles I think it would convince more souls.
The only “peer review” Jesus requires of us is to repent and believe in His death for the forgiveness of our sins, burial and resurrection which proves He is God!
The “article” that God wrote is available to all who want to get to know Him through this divine book, the Bible.
Catholics make this far more confusing and complicated than Jesus did. God is “not a god of confusion.” The Enemy confuses, complicates and deceives. Jesus doesn’t.
@onlyimagine4 I appreciate your point but feel you're missing what I'm saying. Supernatural occurrence has converted many souls, it obviously has place in Gods plan.
Most unbelievers will say they don't believe because they don't see any evidence. Modern minds want proof and trust the scientific method. If we provide researched scientific studies that can not be debunked then it's a good starting point for debate.
This is called rhetoric not logic. Of course that’s what Jesus said. No one is debating that. What did Jesus mean? He often said things that go much deeper than the surface words indicate. Otherwise, Peter should have been feeding literal lambs and sheep….
Why do some Protestants believe the Bible is so literal that they think the story of genesis was a word for word historical account and the earth is only 6000 years old and yet when Jesus said this IS MY BODY they say well he only meant that symbolically?
Cause to many of us we read it as a figure of speech cause he would not ever command anything contrary to scripture as cannibalism is sin. And Jesus uses many metaphors to describe himself. But that's just our point of view if you hold to transubstantiation then have at it. 🤙
@@andrewsantillan6020well atleast you know of figures of speech. I’ve spoken to protestants who take Jesus 100% literally
And it also says we are the body of Christ as a church, and Jesus also says he is the door, just because he said he is something doesn’t mean he literally meant it. So don’t know if that is a fair argument, in and of itself. You would have to prove that He literally meant it not just that he said it.
"Truly, Truly" Jesus swore that the bread was his Body and wine was his Blood.
If it was a symbol, why did He let the 5,000 leave. They took Him literally. Read the Early Church Fathers those who knew Jesus, the Apostles, the disciples. They all wrote and believed in the Real Presence of Jesus in the Eucharist.
This is exactly where Jesus becomes a sinner! Thanks for making your Jesus a law breaker.
The bread and wine are a representation. That doesn’t mean communion is less valid
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Jesus also said in John I am the vine and that the disciples were the branches. So, Jesus is now a literal vine in the disciples were actual branches?
Wait a minute.. what about the last supper? The one recorded moment he said this is my body and this is my blood, he was still alive, here in flesh. He said do this in rememberabce of me. It's a ritual done to commemorate his sacrifice, not to ingest his actual blood and body.
God is love! It doesn’t matter whether you are Catholic or Protestant. Love is the answer. ❤️
"If you love me, you'll keep my commandments"
It does matter. Indifference is what God spits out.
What is Love?
@@rebn8346 Well…. I guess love just oozes out from every Protestant’s lips & hearts, yes? Let the texts and comments show in every Catholic video from almost every Protestant that come in; not to understand or learn or research but to JUDGE.
@@Love_Divine if you feel judged over something Jesus said...I guess let show that you aren't here to learn, but JUDGE the boundaries created by Christ for a relationship.
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@@Love_Divine "and each did what was right in his own eyes..."
Hebrews 9:25-26. Christ does not die repeatedly for our sins. We do this in remembrance of what he did for us
Almost every historic Protestant branch holds to real presence, just not transubstantiation.
But the largest growing group are unfortunately the non-historic branches of Protestantism
Jesus called the bread His body, He was physically present with His disciples, His body unbroken. How could He literally offer His broken body to His disciples the night before He died?
I remember when Jesus said.” Truly twist thyself into a pretzel, and thy logic also, so that you make mock your brothers in order to shield your invented traditions from criticism.”
If you are going to claim that a supernatural being has an effect in the world, then you must be able to measure it. Show me the measurement and I’ll believe in your supernatural power.
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“And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body. And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; for this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.”
Matthew 26:26-29
He also said if you have the timy bit if faith you can remove mountains or say to a tree be cast into the sea they shall do those things.
@ClansmanK The meaning is not that one can go to the Rocky Mountains and move it in the Sea. It means: "The mountains (troubles) in our life. To give them in God's Hand. He can remove them. I lived 2 years without any form of income, with 11 small children from one mariage. We had everything we needed every day. God our Lord provided all we needed in a miraculous way
@MariusVanWoerden thats the point.
I think I'll go with Jesus. And all Christians for the first 1500 years.
In Matthew 5 verse 29, the bible says : "If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell." Does that mean I literally have to throw my eye away ? Not at all. Jesus speaks a lot with parables so that people can better understand his message. Plus, since Martin Luther, the symbolic aspect of the eucharist was reaffirmed. Thus, in Luke 22 verse 19 the bible says: "And he took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me.”
Fair point, however
Jesus also said that he was:
Bread, a light, a door, the good shepard, and a vine.
So out of all of these instances of metaphorical language, why is it that Catholics believe the Eucharist is literally His body and blood?
1 Timothy 2:5
Matthew 23:9
1 Corinthians 1:2
If you were me, who do you think I should believe?
He is great gift from God +
- not to mention many followers had a hard time with this teaching and left. Jesus didn't stop them or say this is a misunderstanding or being hyperbolic here.
Where can I get Bellarmines writings on the Eucharist?
Do you “go with Jesus” when he states if your eye causes you to sin, then pluck it out? Obviously Jesus uses symbolism and metaphors. Using your argument, one could justify plucking their eyes out thinking, Jesus said it and I’m gonna go with Jesus. Certainly he was using strong words to symbolize the seriousness of sin and to cut it off at the root.
As for the last supper, I don’t see how one could not see that it is symbolic. He is offering His real flesh and blood at the cross, not at the dinner table. He wants us to remember His sacrifice and symbolically offers His flesh and blood during the last supper to show how His body will be broken for us and His blood shed for us. Certainly NOT his real flesh and blood considering drinking actual blood is a sin. But what do I know, I’m not a scholar.
This is what I've been saying..... I'm not a fan of Sola Scriptura..... But even the scriptures clearly say that Jesus said, "This is my Body....This is my Blood"
How do so few Catholics know what a metaphor is?
That was literally the Marburg Colloquy dialogue, aka the Luther vs. Zwingli showdown
May all protestants become Christian and accept the real presence.
I’m a Lutheran and I can assure you that I am a Christian and I also happen to accept the real presence so you can stop your generalizing, thank you.
I would say, Keep Reading! You’ll get to the part where Jesus says “my words are Spirit”. Now if Jesus says His words are Spirit, but you say they’re not,,, who should I believe, you or Jesus?
What do you mean by “his words are spirit” we know he breathed life onto the earth but I’m not sure what you mean by his words are spirit
The thing about this is that you can 100% believe in the Eucharist without deciding to convert to Catholicism. Yeah ok communion is the real body and blood of Jesus, I’m not about to pray to Mary just because of this revelation.
How do we know when Jesus is being symbolic?
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Sad you take one verse out of context and make it the entire source and summit of your denomination.
Proves you haven’t studied the Bible. You’ve just read it or had it read to you by bishops since the Holy Spirit “can’t interpret it for us” as God said He would. You’ve been deceived into believing only a man can interpret it for you.
The poor protestants! Misled for hundreds of years and their flock missing out on the real Prescence
Why can plenary indulgences release souls from purgatory, but the blood of Jesus can't?
Poor catholics that are more concerned with following tradition rather than christ
The question I have is was Jesus talking about something other than his physical body when he said this is my body because we know that his physical body does not exist anymore he has a new body so how do we partake of his physical body when it's not there anymore
The Sacrament at the true Church of Jesus Christ went crazy today
We take the symbols as a remembrance for Jesus's body and blood that was given up for the price of our sins. He used parables often and in that moment he said do this in remembrance. You should participate in communion but not necessarily the Eucurist
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What would be your rebuttal to how Jesus most often only spoke in parables or in symbols? Like when he says to chop off your hand, he says he is “the true vine”. All of that is symbolic, so what separates us from that? Truly asking🤔
Jesus used parables all the time. He meant it Spiritually. He used the wine and bread to put it into terms humans would understand. Test the wine and it will be wine and test the bread and it will be bread. It" represents him and represents the act.
Yes, the problem is that Jesus ALSO says that it is bread. Do you believe both statements of Jesus that it is Jesus' Body and it is bread, or do you only believe one statement of Jesus?
Most Protestants have believed we truly receive Jesus body and blood in the Eucharist, but they also believe that it is truly bread and wine.
Jesus also said "I am the door". I'm pretty sure he's not a movable structure used to close off an entrance.
Maybe we need to start a transubstantiation door doctrine too.
Jesus said. So I'm a Protestant but I believe it is the body and blood of my precious Savior.
Than come home.
Growing up, I was always told(by priests) that it's not Protestant it's non-Catholic
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