When you were discussing the DVLA being old school witih the letters, I still find it hilarous that the DVLA website to tax a car shuts at 6 like its a corner shop.
It's not old school, it's a legal document, like a contract and they need to be able to verify that you have received the document( through the postie) and can't use it in court as a defense.
@@Vercingetorixeur I work with a number of government organisations where providing a receipt can happen any time, the verification follows later (usually within a business day), and then the real process starts. I see literally no reason at all to close a site.
@daccy86 Do people really buy new pairs of trainers when they're dirty? That's mental, I either wear boat shoes or boots, both are over 7 years old and I've never even contemplated replacing them. Another world...
Ruin for me. Bought an 05 CLK 1.8 kompressor 4 days ago, did an oil change, did the breaks, I was really happy with it. Talked to my mechanic the day afer I bought it, he ordered a timing kit for it, he was going to do it tomorrow and this morning the timing chain slipped, destroyed valves pistons, everything. I'm devastated.
That really sucks, I'm sorry to hear. But consider this, it is potentially an opportunity to beef it up some, possibly find some upgraded cams, skim the head for a bit more compression while it's off, make it a little more spicy.
I know how that feels. Few weeks ago I had a catalytic converter replacement booked in. The day before it was due to be replaced it must have been blocked and it caused the engine to smash a huge hole in it. So I had to get an engine replacement. Expensive few weeks. I'm guessing you'll need a new engine?
Will needs to be reigned in, two Fords is insane when you look at what got cut out. Also know your audience, we would all definitely listen to a 3 hour Top 40 Homologation Specials episode..
the rs500 changed touring cars and helped bring on super touring cars OF THE '90s, the best decade of the BTCC. The RS200 shouldn't have been on the list. it never raced a full series
ABsolutely. The wealth of knowledge Edwin would be dropping would probably turn it into a 4-6hr episode. They might even need to cut it into a Part 1 & 2
I love that you guys edit in pictures of the cars youre talking about. Eventhough i know a lot of cars, some cars from that era ive never heard of or ive heard of but cant get a picture of what it looks like. So to just sit and listen to you guys talk while just doing things for myself, being able to just take a quick glance at the screen to see what youre talking about is just very easy. So thank editors💪
God I'm so happy this channel has succeeded as well as it has, been following and have watched every episode since the very first Porsche episode and was quite surprised when this podcast was launched but I'm absolutely loving it, first ever podcast I've watched in its entirety and they are all great. what you guys do is my literal dream lol
Can we get some love for Burnout on the TV behind you guys? I get there are no licenced cars, but it was a brilliant arcade racer... Burnout 3: Takedown please 😊
i just did a speed awareness course today in trafford manchester (38mph in a 30mph zone while rushing because all my usual roads were closed. im a care worker and we have multiple dying clients to visits every evening) it was ok. i thought the limit on dual carriageways was 60mph (im 59 years old) - it is not - its 70mph . the gents asked lots of nice questions of us - one was "what have we learned today?" - yes ! i answered ive been driving TOO SLOWLY on dual carriageways. how we all laughed . . . . .
we have to have class 1 business insurance because we visit "multiple places of work" as part of our job. - not the same as taxi insurance - although we have to have THAT if we take clients anywhere - which i did in my last care job in Macclesfield . . . . .
Idea for the car rankings (btw this podcast is fuelling me to get my driving licence) •Iconic race cars from all series •Prototype cars (cars that has rolling chassis) that never made production •Hot hatchbacks from 2000-2010 •Every car both of you have owned in terms of coolness Hope Edwin gets that C55 and will turns the Range Rover into a Budget Bentayga
I think you missed two absolute classic Homologation specials, the Renault Laguna Airflow with the massive front splitter and rear wing to allow Renault to run with Aero in the BTCC and the Peugeot 206 GT with the extended front and rear bumpers as Peugeot wanted to take the 206 rallying but realised it wasn't long enough 😂
It's a Ruin for me this week boys. I have a low mileage 2011 Honda CBR250R (yes a motorcycle) with a Repsol Livery and I dropped a spanner on the Fuel Tank which chipped some of the paint off it. Fortunately it isn't a big chip but I know it's there and therefore it has ruined my sleep.
On the argument: In oldschool games, like the og NFS MW, the soundtrack is a must. For modern games, no. The soundtracks of the recent NFS and FH games were mostly trash. In older games, it was mostly solid with several bangers, if you dont like a track, its alright cause the rest is nice. But in modern games they shove in whatever the marketing dept thinks young people like instead of actually picking a good selection.
Just a word about enforcement cameras - A recent mistake by Liverpool Council means that thousands (including me) don't have to pay fines. The reason? they forgot to send out the 1st letter!
I saw online that some of the older speed cameras where I live don't work because they rely on 3G networks, however the council is upgrading them before the end of the financial year so they will work again.
No music while driving is wild to me.. Cheeky 10pm speed on some empty backroad with the Horizon 5 OST going just makes you feel like the guy for an hour, like you're just him
As a Indonesian who watch your works, its always envy me when you guys got a car really cheap. At least we dont do the strict insurance policy, most of Indonesian dont have any insurance anyway. I just wondering, can you give us some ranking for any asian (exclude Japan) exclusive cars model who dont sell in Europe? Maybe you lads want some The Toyota Avanza for example?😂 Cheers guys
We all make mistakes and get brown letters. I made a misshap with cruise control got caught on a mobile speed camera doing 58 in a 50. Then the post office lost my information I sent off and I went to court and I got 6 points and a £675 fine. The system sucks why can't we do all this online yet? Love the podcast guys and all the content keep up the good work.
My 159 was bought at 96k miles and ws rust proofed with a lot of preventative maintenance like clutch/DMF, lower arms, cambelt, subframes etc over the last couple years. Had a few things I have had to replace but overall, it doesn't feel like it's just ticked over 100k at all. Though I have a 2.4 JTDm engine which is robust engine compared to some of the other options. All dependant on who had it before, what they did and how you treat it moving forward (within reason obviously)
My dad had a 2.2 159 Sportwagen. He got it when it was 3 years old and had only done 20,000 miles. Needed a new timing chain, a new steering rack, the steering fluid was the wrong grade (I think they made that same mistake in every one they built) and numerous other small problems. He had a Mito or Saab convertible courtesy car for half of the year he owned it, before ditching it at the end of its year long warranty. Was a really nice car, built by numpties.
@drunkenhobo8020 2.2 is an ass engine tbf, GM built and unreliable. The only engines worth having are the 1750 TBi petrol and 2.4 diesel. Yeah, the early years had the wrong power steering fluid in and was given red instead of green. But they said if no one had any issues then to leave it with red as putting green in after would cause more problems.
33:00 Yeah my dad refuses to buy a car with about like 65,000 miles on it, Even if it was a PD130. I keep telling him it's fine to go over 150 even. My mum back along bought a 2004(?) 3.2 Shogun with 226,000 miles for like £400 as a stop gap whilst the old shogun sport was off the road with a blown engine. Tax was mental, I think £600 a year, but it ran pretty damn good, just expensive to run
win! scored a set of heated leather seats on eBay for my car and will go collect them in a few weeks... also some police constabularies have reported what limits they enforce, eg: 10% +2 for Derbyshire and a lot of the uk. therefore seeing 77 on the speedo (plus most cars under-read by 5-6%) would be acceptable (I think) as long as you're over they can pull you, but I dont think they can punish. there are lists online of what most counties say but normally 10% +2
I’ve had an Astra diesel van for a while now. It’s done 300k almost. All it’s ever had is general maintenance, a timing belt and an injector. It’s automatic. Not slow. Stupidly cheap to run. I get about 600 miles per tank. I’m after a new car £15k budget. Nothing I have looked at has compared to my shitbox Astra van cdti 120 lol
I have a question, i've always loved cars (no practical knowledge of them) but cos of uni and no money didnt pass my test till this year i have a 2007 corsa atm but next year id like a better and more fun modern car for a 2nd car for the next 3-5 years. What would you guys recommend around the 5k mark ive looked at a MK7 fiesta st or an alfa giulietta
Mate of mine had an S-type that over-read by a solid 6-7mph, all the way up to about 70, after that it was closer, but still over by 2-3mph. Standard wheel & tyre sizes. 🤷🏼
There has to be 25k of the GR Yaris body shell, but a good number of the body shell were used for the 1.5 CVT version sold only in Japan (no 3 pot 1.6 turbo, no AWD etc). True number of GR Yarii is somewhat unknown.
I think I found the new best thing after Top Gear. Not saying you guys replace them (no one can), but I am enjoying watching you guys just as much (and that says a lot). Im really hyped seeing others be able to help you make amazing possible future episodes (Lambo in the USA, going to the McLaren factory etc). Big fan. Dont change like Top Gear didnt.
Cars are ruling for me too. I sold my bmw e91 that I’d had for a few months and just didn’t form a connection with. And I bought a very nice frozen white mk6 fiesta st which I’m now only the second keeper of. It’s pretty clean and totally original. Which is rare!!
I went to look at 7 audi a4 and every single one that had lower mileage was so badly taken care of. Bought a 300.000 kilometers one and it was in such a good condition with everything done to it already for the same price as those other ones.
Cars are ruling right now I'd say. I lost my really nicely restored NB Miata a few weeks ago but picked up a NC Miata with better options, 57k miles, and at $9k I also got a BMW 128i manual with sport package, under 90k miles. Those are probably quite normal in the EU but they are super rare here in the US!
Enjoyed both your chats with Ben Fowler, being obsessed with cars can be a pain, for a while be been thinking of selling my e3 M3. And in its place either a TVR chimera, MX5, vxr8, old mini, Audi rs4 avant, another 205 gti, the list goes on 🤷🏼♂️
Old Gatso cameras aren't all on. I was told as much on a speed awareness course. Easy to tell as well, the ones that are on have the flash bulb installed. Wont help you first time you pass them though.
Both my cars have 220,000+ miles without issue. They’ve been in my family since new and have been extremely well maintained. I’ve had friends whose cars gave up after 120k. It’s not so much the miles, it’s how they were maintained
1:07:33 It depends on the game, but I also turn the music off. Especially in most racing games (I say "most" because Burnout Paradise just isn't the same without it, though I do disable certain songs), since while I do like some of the songs, it's generally only one or two on each "station". So I just disable the music entirely. Plus, I want to hear the cars. I also usually either watch TH-cam (or Netflix, Disney+, etc.) on the side, or am in Discord with friends, and I also don't like having music going while I'm doing that. Minecraft is the other game where I instantly turn the music off, mainly for the same reasons. If I want music while I'm playing that, I'll just listen to Spotify If it's a story-based game though, I'm generally just focused on the game, and the music can be important to the feel of it, so I leave it on in those. For example, Far Cry 3 wouldn't be the same without "Make It Bun Dem" by Skrillex and Damian Marley during "Kick the Hornet's Nest" (the weed field burning mission), and Dark Souls (and Elden Ring) wouldn't be the same without the epic boss music
Ok, you want to know if it is rule or ruin for me? It's ruin atm. I have a BMW e46 318Ci. Not the beefiest car in the world, but it gets the job done of hauling my ugly arse from point A to point B comfortably. However, my passenger mirror never fully worked. The heating works, electrical adjustment semi-works but it doesn't fold - and it should. I ordered a new one, wanted to finally replace it after 5 years of driving without a fully working mirror and guess what? The shop sold me the wrong one and I can't return it since it's been bought months ago and just sat in my closet, waiting to be installed. So I missed my return window. So yeah, for now I'm stuck with a passenger mirror with 1 out of 3 functions working. I want to get rid of this car, someone please buy it off of me.
Ruin for me for sure. MOT due next month so went in for a quick brake check. Discs all round, pads all round, 2 callipers, top mount, battery a set of wiper blades and negative a grand in my bank later... Literally just had springs, DPF and exhaust done too... At what point to I just call it a day 😭
Best guess why they couldn't insure the Limo is its probably considered a commercial vehicle based on weight or passenger capacity. I know like in the US you need a commercial license to operate a stretch limo that can seat 16 passengers.
I also disable the music in racing games, probably because I don't listen to music while I'm driving in RL. I just like driving so much that I enjoy being in this silent metal box with just my thoughts and the engine sounds. I have to mention that I don't use a car on a daily basis, so driving for me is special.
As a viewer from Russia(many chinese cars here) , you guys should definitely visit China to check out the car scene there, the amount of new and wild cars I see everyday is crazy and you would love it.
I have to admit I’ve also always turned off the music in racing games aswell. My girlfriends always saying, oh this song was in GT2 or GT4 and I’m just like, was it? No idea lol. Menu music stays. When I’m driving I’m driving lol.
Been watching since day one & new episodes are a highlight of my work week. If you do come to the east coast, feel free to drop me a line if you need any food recommendations in DC (from there) & Philly (live there). My boss races up at Lime Rock in CT which could be a cool stop for y’all if you end up near New York. All the best and thanks for all the entertainment!!
Thanks for the naswer guys. Actually, I am from Poland, you have good luck with guessing WIll 😆 Also, week Ruined, my Mazda 6 MPS has done 60k km without issues, but now I have done timing chain, gearbox, and still have some more stuff to do. That's why I'm thinking about getting a second car, while the first one is sitting at the mechanic's all the time. Sad times.
Im from South Africa ,my dad and wife are one of those that focus on milage. Also dont understand my interest in older cars. I agree keep up the maintenace and your car will last. I hit 300 000km on my 2004 Fiesta before having to sell it for a more family friendly car.
Bought myself a 190,000 Mercedes Benz E320, runs like a dream with the previous owner regularly servicing the engine. Hope to put an extra 50-60k on it, definitely not selling that on I imagine
Do a podcast rating the top 40 cars of all time, could narrow it down to era or classes of car but would love to see you both argue over which car would be the over all crown jewel✌️
Problem is with the homologation special list is there are very few wrong answers, because they are all great cars. Little surprised to see no Impreza mentioned though, but I guess the TME was the 2000s WRC representative.
I had an encounter with an F40 in the mid 90s when I was in my R5 GT Turbo, I thought I was the muts nuts in my hot hatch until a guy in an F40 cruised past me having given me a flash of his pop ups. There’s always a bigger fish.
Surely the 250 GTO doesn't really count as a homologlation special? The "road" car and "race" car are the exact same thing. And the Lusso or other SwB 250 road cars are far too different to count as well.
I'm with Will on the music in games. In fact, real life too - I'm a musician and I love music, but when I'm driving I only want to hear the car. The only use I have for stereos in cars is for Bluetooth from my phone for hands-free calls and sat nav.
Drove home the other week, there was some horrid box (can't remember it) with other the LED brake lights working, and even that was at a weird angle. Cop car behind, pretty sure it was traffic, while the car was on its brakes. The car turned off and the police went another way. You can get away with anything nowadays (can even provide the dash cam clip)
Hey team great podcast on Ben Fowler road to success and loving both channels. Auto Alex really done spoil us with all the channels. Been a fan since car throttle and love watching every episode keep it up doing a fantastic job. Much love from Australia to all the crew auto Alex , top dead centre 😉 and all the gear. Fddking legendary thanks team and keep up the cleaning Edwin 😁 🧽
When you say 80k on an alfa is bad. What abojt newer alfas, im looking at the 1.4tb giulietta, are they fairly reliable or are they just stay away if its over 90k
Okay... Question for The Forum? This is gonna sound so thick but here we go: The Litre size on some cars, are they all related to fuel consumption/power? If so why do people buy such massive literage and are there some that you think are worthless/unusable?
16:30 every speedo should be over. I think there's a requirement from manufacturers, at least in Australia, for this to be the case. That's why in a 100 zone I can sit on 107, and only be actually doing 102 (2 over is legal).
I agree with Will SO much on the no game music but yes real life driving music AND the volume of said music. My friends will talk about the banger menu music on discord, and I’m like “hmmm, wouldn’t know, turned it off”.
Only cos its been bugging me since 1st listening on Spotify;...... BIGGER wheels (not smaller) make a car travel faster than the speedo shows. Smaller wheels make a car accellerate faster but also causes the speedometer to read faster than is actual, meaning they are actually travelling slower. Anyway, love the podcasts guys :) Also, 22:12 lmao
Racing game music can be a double edged sword. I really loved a ceratin track from NFS Underground. Ride by Lost prophets. Only to then hear about their leads other interests... and that was the last time I could happily go listen to that track.
1:16:20 I was 20 and bought my first BMW 320 on the way home Beenie man-who am I came on the radio. Zim zimmer who got the keys to my bimmer😎 I remember singing out loud to myself I’ve got the keys to my bimmer
I think there is a market for cars with insane mileage. If you see an old Citroen with 250k miles on it they always seem to get snapped up. If you have a mediocre car clock it to have 300k+ and suddenly I think people will be knocking your door down! Not saying you should do that, just that someone might!
When you were discussing the DVLA being old school witih the letters, I still find it hilarous that the DVLA website to tax a car shuts at 6 like its a corner shop.
If anything corner shops are open longer!
Hah experiened this lately, cant submit a custom license plate after 7pm!
It's not old school, it's a legal document, like a contract and they need to be able to verify that you have received the document( through the postie) and can't use it in court as a defense.
@@Vercingetorixeur I work with a number of government organisations where providing a receipt can happen any time, the verification follows later (usually within a business day), and then the real process starts. I see literally no reason at all to close a site.
@baoboumusic yeah idk bout closing it I was just explaining why they send through the post
Considering how much Edwin loves cleaning the cars. Wish he would clean his shoes!
Every CREAM ep I think this. Please sort out a new pair
I think that's the least of their concerns, got the old trusties on in the workshop, I don't think anyone is gonna wear new clean shoes there
That’s how vans are meant to be
They're in a mechanics unit. The only thing wrong with his shoes is the lack of steel toes
@daccy86 Do people really buy new pairs of trainers when they're dirty? That's mental, I either wear boat shoes or boots, both are over 7 years old and I've never even contemplated replacing them. Another world...
Ruin for me.
Bought an 05 CLK 1.8 kompressor 4 days ago, did an oil change, did the breaks, I was really happy with it. Talked to my mechanic the day afer I bought it, he ordered a timing kit for it, he was going to do it tomorrow and this morning the timing chain slipped, destroyed valves pistons, everything. I'm devastated.
Sorry to hear mate, a shame as they are nice cars but they get absolutely ragged about by morons
That really sucks, I'm sorry to hear. But consider this, it is potentially an opportunity to beef it up some, possibly find some upgraded cams, skim the head for a bit more compression while it's off, make it a little more spicy.
I know how that feels. Few weeks ago I had a catalytic converter replacement booked in. The day before it was due to be replaced it must have been blocked and it caused the engine to smash a huge hole in it. So I had to get an engine replacement. Expensive few weeks. I'm guessing you'll need a new engine?
@@gordonchard6243 yes mate we're looking for a new engine. I really want to keep it, 80k miles, absolutely no rust
@@musewolfman will do, already thinking about putting a smaller pulley on the compressor
Will needs to be reigned in, two Fords is insane when you look at what got cut out.
Also know your audience, we would all definitely listen to a 3 hour Top 40 Homologation Specials episode..
the rs500 changed touring cars and helped bring on super touring cars OF THE '90s, the best decade of the BTCC. The RS200 shouldn't have been on the list. it never raced a full series
ABsolutely. The wealth of knowledge Edwin would be dropping would probably turn it into a 4-6hr episode. They might even need to cut it into a Part 1 & 2
@@GenX-jeditrue this
I love that you guys edit in pictures of the cars youre talking about. Eventhough i know a lot of cars, some cars from that era ive never heard of or ive heard of but cant get a picture of what it looks like. So to just sit and listen to you guys talk while just doing things for myself, being able to just take a quick glance at the screen to see what youre talking about is just very easy. So thank editors💪
So proud of Ben. Removing the broken thing via bodge rather than replacement. Learned from the best.
Bodge it back onto the road until you can afford the time to repair. It's a skill that's not as easy on new cars, by design.
God I'm so happy this channel has succeeded as well as it has, been following and have watched every episode since the very first Porsche episode and was quite surprised when this podcast was launched but I'm absolutely loving it, first ever podcast I've watched in its entirety and they are all great. what you guys do is my literal dream lol
Prescription ray-bans are insanely expensive
Not terrible to be fair, I got mine for sub £200 from a David Clulow
@@user-ps8mb3vn6c These where prescription tints, looked like clubmasters. Honestly that one pair was probably 10% of the cars value 🤣
id watch a video of porsche ray ban delivery service, fuck it.
That's £400! Lotta money man, should be returned to her in my opinion... she can collect, or pay postage etc. @@user-ps8mb3vn6c
@@user-ps8mb3vn6c They're £600 each from the optician
Can we get some love for Burnout on the TV behind you guys? I get there are no licenced cars, but it was a brilliant arcade racer... Burnout 3: Takedown please 😊
Burnout 3 is the most fun racing game of all time. Also the soundtrack was stacked with bangers.
Burnout 2 or Paradise for me!
“We are the lazy generation!”
The Cardigans - My Favourite Game on GT2 is just sublime! I can't imagine playing it without that song
Finally there's someone like me. I am exactly like Will. I will turn off music in car games and if I listen to music in a car it must be blasting LOUD
i just did a speed awareness course today in trafford manchester (38mph in a 30mph zone while rushing because all my usual roads were closed. im a care worker and we have multiple dying clients to visits every evening) it was ok. i thought the limit on dual carriageways was 60mph (im 59 years old) - it is not - its 70mph . the gents asked lots of nice questions of us - one was "what have we learned today?" - yes ! i answered ive been driving TOO SLOWLY on dual carriageways. how we all laughed . . . . .
we have to have class 1 business insurance because we visit "multiple places of work" as part of our job. - not the same as taxi insurance - although we have to have THAT if we take clients anywhere - which i did in my last care job in Macclesfield . . . . .
51:50 I just spilled my drink! That’s the funniest line of the episode and it went over everybody’s head 😂
edwin needs to release the driving playlists
I can hear that DUB Edition menu music just looking at that 😂
Everything real big
Idea for the car rankings (btw this podcast is fuelling me to get my driving licence)
•Iconic race cars from all series
•Prototype cars (cars that has rolling chassis) that never made production
•Hot hatchbacks from 2000-2010
•Every car both of you have owned in terms of coolness
Hope Edwin gets that C55 and will turns the Range Rover into a Budget Bentayga
Hot hatch and cars they have owned are great ideas!
I think you missed two absolute classic Homologation specials, the Renault Laguna Airflow with the massive front splitter and rear wing to allow Renault to run with Aero in the BTCC and the Peugeot 206 GT with the extended front and rear bumpers as Peugeot wanted to take the 206 rallying but realised it wasn't long enough 😂
It's a Ruin for me this week boys. I have a low mileage 2011 Honda CBR250R (yes a motorcycle) with a Repsol Livery and I dropped a spanner on the Fuel Tank which chipped some of the paint off it. Fortunately it isn't a big chip but I know it's there and therefore it has ruined my sleep.
On the argument: In oldschool games, like the og NFS MW, the soundtrack is a must. For modern games, no. The soundtracks of the recent NFS and FH games were mostly trash. In older games, it was mostly solid with several bangers, if you dont like a track, its alright cause the rest is nice.
But in modern games they shove in whatever the marketing dept thinks young people like instead of actually picking a good selection.
Just a word about enforcement cameras - A recent mistake by Liverpool Council means that thousands (including me) don't have to pay fines. The reason? they forgot to send out the 1st letter!
I saw online that some of the older speed cameras where I live don't work because they rely on 3G networks, however the council is upgrading them before the end of the financial year so they will work again.
I always drive without music, love the sound of the engine and exhaust, also can hear when something is off 😂
No music while driving is wild to me..
Cheeky 10pm speed on some empty backroad with the Horizon 5 OST going just makes you feel like the guy for an hour, like you're just him
Same but Eurobeat
Music is required while driving. I don't care how good an engine sounds, every song gets old if it's the only thing you're ever listening to.
As a Indonesian who watch your works, its always envy me when you guys got a car really cheap. At least we dont do the strict insurance policy, most of Indonesian dont have any insurance anyway.
I just wondering, can you give us some ranking for any asian (exclude Japan) exclusive cars model who dont sell in Europe? Maybe you lads want some The Toyota Avanza for example?😂 Cheers guys
Time flies by listening to these three guys. Cheers for that.
We all make mistakes and get brown letters. I made a misshap with cruise control got caught on a mobile speed camera doing 58 in a 50. Then the post office lost my information I sent off and I went to court and I got 6 points and a £675 fine. The system sucks why can't we do all this online yet?
Love the podcast guys and all the content keep up the good work.
Love these podcasts. Keep it coming guys
My 159 was bought at 96k miles and ws rust proofed with a lot of preventative maintenance like clutch/DMF, lower arms, cambelt, subframes etc over the last couple years. Had a few things I have had to replace but overall, it doesn't feel like it's just ticked over 100k at all. Though I have a 2.4 JTDm engine which is robust engine compared to some of the other options.
All dependant on who had it before, what they did and how you treat it moving forward (within reason obviously)
My dad had a 2.2 159 Sportwagen. He got it when it was 3 years old and had only done 20,000 miles.
Needed a new timing chain, a new steering rack, the steering fluid was the wrong grade (I think they made that same mistake in every one they built) and numerous other small problems. He had a Mito or Saab convertible courtesy car for half of the year he owned it, before ditching it at the end of its year long warranty.
Was a really nice car, built by numpties.
@drunkenhobo8020 2.2 is an ass engine tbf, GM built and unreliable. The only engines worth having are the 1750 TBi petrol and 2.4 diesel.
Yeah, the early years had the wrong power steering fluid in and was given red instead of green. But they said if no one had any issues then to leave it with red as putting green in after would cause more problems.
I love the pain and joy that the ranking brings to you two
33:00 Yeah my dad refuses to buy a car with about like 65,000 miles on it, Even if it was a PD130. I keep telling him it's fine to go over 150 even. My mum back along bought a 2004(?) 3.2 Shogun with 226,000 miles for like £400 as a stop gap whilst the old shogun sport was off the road with a blown engine. Tax was mental, I think £600 a year, but it ran pretty damn good, just expensive to run
win! scored a set of heated leather seats on eBay for my car and will go collect them in a few weeks... also some police constabularies have reported what limits they enforce, eg: 10% +2 for Derbyshire and a lot of the uk. therefore seeing 77 on the speedo (plus most cars under-read by 5-6%) would be acceptable (I think) as long as you're over they can pull you, but I dont think they can punish. there are lists online of what most counties say but normally 10% +2
I’ve had an Astra diesel van for a while now. It’s done 300k almost. All it’s ever had is general maintenance, a timing belt and an injector. It’s automatic. Not slow. Stupidly cheap to run. I get about 600 miles per tank. I’m after a new car £15k budget. Nothing I have looked at has compared to my shitbox Astra van cdti 120 lol
I have a question, i've always loved cars (no practical knowledge of them) but cos of uni and no money didnt pass my test till this year i have a 2007 corsa atm but next year id like a better and more fun modern car for a 2nd car for the next 3-5 years. What would you guys recommend around the 5k mark ive looked at a MK7 fiesta st or an alfa giulietta
Great podcast and the main channel,all the way from south africa 🇿🇦
Mate of mine had an S-type that over-read by a solid 6-7mph, all the way up to about 70, after that it was closer, but still over by 2-3mph. Standard wheel & tyre sizes. 🤷🏼
There has to be 25k of the GR Yaris body shell, but a good number of the body shell were used for the 1.5 CVT version sold only in Japan (no 3 pot 1.6 turbo, no AWD etc). True number of GR Yarii is somewhat unknown.
Oh you can do a list of racing games wit the best soundtrack. Heres my vote: Driver San Fran. Love that soundtrack
I think I found the new best thing after Top Gear. Not saying you guys replace them (no one can), but I am enjoying watching you guys just as much (and that says a lot). Im really hyped seeing others be able to help you make amazing possible future episodes (Lambo in the USA, going to the McLaren factory etc). Big fan. Dont change like Top Gear didnt.
1:08:48 I agree with Will. Music off in racing games
Cars are ruling for me too. I sold my bmw e91 that I’d had for a few months and just didn’t form a connection with. And I bought a very nice frozen white mk6 fiesta st which I’m now only the second keeper of. It’s pretty clean and totally original. Which is rare!!
I went to look at 7 audi a4 and every single one that had lower mileage was so badly taken care of. Bought a 300.000 kilometers one and it was in such a good condition with everything done to it already for the same price as those other ones.
Cars are ruling right now I'd say. I lost my really nicely restored NB Miata a few weeks ago but picked up a NC Miata with better options, 57k miles, and at $9k
I also got a BMW 128i manual with sport package, under 90k miles. Those are probably quite normal in the EU but they are super rare here in the US!
ncs are great cars hope you enjoy it but we didnt get the 128i or 328 in the eu we had 25i and 30i using the same engine
Enjoyed both your chats with Ben Fowler, being obsessed with cars can be a pain, for a while be been thinking of selling my e3 M3. And in its place either a TVR chimera, MX5, vxr8, old mini, Audi rs4 avant, another 205 gti, the list goes on 🤷🏼♂️
Old Gatso cameras aren't all on. I was told as much on a speed awareness course. Easy to tell as well, the ones that are on have the flash bulb installed. Wont help you first time you pass them though.
Oh nice, a new episode from the best car podcast ever. Perfecto.
... already listened to this on the Apple podcast app. Now watching it while surfing FB marketplace and Car & Classic.
Both my cars have 220,000+ miles without issue. They’ve been in my family since new and have been extremely well maintained. I’ve had friends whose cars gave up after 120k. It’s not so much the miles, it’s how they were maintained
Midnight Club 3 DUB Edition is one of the GOATs of car gaming for me, also great soundtrack. Loving this podcast gents, great work.
1:07:33 It depends on the game, but I also turn the music off. Especially in most racing games (I say "most" because Burnout Paradise just isn't the same without it, though I do disable certain songs), since while I do like some of the songs, it's generally only one or two on each "station". So I just disable the music entirely. Plus, I want to hear the cars. I also usually either watch TH-cam (or Netflix, Disney+, etc.) on the side, or am in Discord with friends, and I also don't like having music going while I'm doing that. Minecraft is the other game where I instantly turn the music off, mainly for the same reasons. If I want music while I'm playing that, I'll just listen to Spotify
If it's a story-based game though, I'm generally just focused on the game, and the music can be important to the feel of it, so I leave it on in those. For example, Far Cry 3 wouldn't be the same without "Make It Bun Dem" by Skrillex and Damian Marley during "Kick the Hornet's Nest" (the weed field burning mission), and Dark Souls (and Elden Ring) wouldn't be the same without the epic boss music
Ok, you want to know if it is rule or ruin for me? It's ruin atm. I have a BMW e46 318Ci. Not the beefiest car in the world, but it gets the job done of hauling my ugly arse from point A to point B comfortably. However, my passenger mirror never fully worked. The heating works, electrical adjustment semi-works but it doesn't fold - and it should. I ordered a new one, wanted to finally replace it after 5 years of driving without a fully working mirror and guess what? The shop sold me the wrong one and I can't return it since it's been bought months ago and just sat in my closet, waiting to be installed. So I missed my return window. So yeah, for now I'm stuck with a passenger mirror with 1 out of 3 functions working. I want to get rid of this car, someone please buy it off of me.
If your biggest issue with a 24 year old BMW is the mirror not folding I would say you’re winning!
Just sell the mirror and get the right one 🤷🏻♂️
Ruin for me for sure. MOT due next month so went in for a quick brake check. Discs all round, pads all round, 2 callipers, top mount, battery a set of wiper blades and negative a grand in my bank later... Literally just had springs, DPF and exhaust done too... At what point to I just call it a day 😭
Best guess why they couldn't insure the Limo is its probably considered a commercial vehicle based on weight or passenger capacity. I know like in the US you need a commercial license to operate a stretch limo that can seat 16 passengers.
Damn Wedwin and Dill really popped off this episode 👌🏻
mc3's soundtrack is the perfect playlist for my 6 hour drive upstate to visit family. always a nice little nostalgia trip to make the miles disappear.
I also disable the music in racing games, probably because I don't listen to music while I'm driving in RL. I just like driving so much that I enjoy being in this silent metal box with just my thoughts and the engine sounds. I have to mention that I don't use a car on a daily basis, so driving for me is special.
Brilliant episode! For me cars ruin this week - had to get our starter motor replaced.
Edwins head phone lead lol doin anyone's else's head in 😂😂
100% 😅
it is NOW!!!
As a viewer from Russia(many chinese cars here) , you guys should definitely visit China to check out the car scene there, the amount of new and wild cars I see everyday is crazy and you would love it.
That limo insurance thing is hilarious 😂😂😂
I have to admit I’ve also always turned off the music in racing games aswell.
My girlfriends always saying, oh this song was in GT2 or GT4 and I’m just like, was it? No idea lol. Menu music stays.
When I’m driving I’m driving lol.
I think i'm falling in luv with these two/three!! ;-)
Been watching since day one & new episodes are a highlight of my work week. If you do come to the east coast, feel free to drop me a line if you need any food recommendations in DC (from there) & Philly (live there). My boss races up at Lime Rock in CT which could be a cool stop for y’all if you end up near New York. All the best and thanks for all the entertainment!!
Thanks for the naswer guys. Actually, I am from Poland, you have good luck with guessing WIll 😆
Also, week Ruined, my Mazda 6 MPS has done 60k km without issues, but now I have done timing chain, gearbox, and still have some more stuff to do. That's why I'm thinking about getting a second car, while the first one is sitting at the mechanic's all the time. Sad times.
How do you re-tap a seized bolt? Had to drill out the brake disk bolt...
Only RS200 I have seen in the wild was sitting in a local petrol station forecourt having dumped all its oil onto the road below. Really sad sight.
Im from South Africa ,my dad and wife are one of those that focus on milage. Also dont understand my interest in older cars. I agree keep up the maintenace and your car will last. I hit 300 000km on my 2004 Fiesta before having to sell it for a more family friendly car.
Bought myself a 190,000 Mercedes Benz E320, runs like a dream with the previous owner regularly servicing the engine. Hope to put an extra 50-60k on it, definitely not selling that on I imagine
Please consider explaining what a torque converter is and how it works. Thank you
As an American viewer, my entire knowledge of EU cars and car culture is from watching all that you two make ahaha. Love the podcasts keep em up!
Still no mic stands but loving the work lads
Do a podcast rating the top 40 cars of all time, could narrow it down to era or classes of car but would love to see you both argue over which car would be the over all crown jewel✌️
Problem is with the homologation special list is there are very few wrong answers, because they are all great cars. Little surprised to see no Impreza mentioned though, but I guess the TME was the 2000s WRC representative.
I had an encounter with an F40 in the mid 90s when I was in my R5 GT Turbo, I thought I was the muts nuts in my hot hatch until a guy in an F40 cruised past me having given me a flash of his pop ups. There’s always a bigger fish.
not the best by a long shot but my favourite homologation specials- superbird, 850r (not sure it counts but whatever), alfa 155 silverstone edition
"The path to success is paved with brown letters"
Never heard anything more true
Can’t help but notice the midnight club 3 in the background so many good memories ❤
In South Africa we have a 10% speed (allowance) over the speed limit.
Surely the 250 GTO doesn't really count as a homologlation special? The "road" car and "race" car are the exact same thing. And the Lusso or other SwB 250 road cars are far too different to count as well.
I'm with Will on the music in games. In fact, real life too - I'm a musician and I love music, but when I'm driving I only want to hear the car. The only use I have for stereos in cars is for Bluetooth from my phone for hands-free calls and sat nav.
Hey, in your opinions, what are the best cars from each decade?
Always raw dog journeys, induction noises and exhaust note 👌🏼
Or yeah loud skater music
Drove home the other week, there was some horrid box (can't remember it) with other the LED brake lights working, and even that was at a weird angle. Cop car behind, pretty sure it was traffic, while the car was on its brakes. The car turned off and the police went another way. You can get away with anything nowadays (can even provide the dash cam clip)
Ruin, I bought a cheap Giulietta that has a broken rear wiring loom and it needs discs & pads. It's an Alfa but I love it
You could count the parts shared between the Metro and the 6R4 on one hand!!!
Hey team great podcast on Ben Fowler road to success and loving both channels. Auto Alex really done spoil us with all the channels. Been a fan since car throttle and love watching every episode keep it up doing a fantastic job. Much love from Australia to all the crew auto Alex , top dead centre 😉 and all the gear. Fddking legendary thanks team and keep up the cleaning Edwin 😁 🧽
When you say 80k on an alfa is bad. What abojt newer alfas, im looking at the 1.4tb giulietta, are they fairly reliable or are they just stay away if its over 90k
Can not fathom playing Forza Horizon without the music. Also we need a link to Edwins playlists
Okay... Question for The Forum? This is gonna sound so thick but here we go: The Litre size on some cars, are they all related to fuel consumption/power? If so why do people buy such massive literage and are there some that you think are worthless/unusable?
I would have included the Nissan Pulsar GTIR. Such a cool car to me
16:30 every speedo should be over. I think there's a requirement from manufacturers, at least in Australia, for this to be the case. That's why in a 100 zone I can sit on 107, and only be actually doing 102 (2 over is legal).
I agree with Will SO much on the no game music but yes real life driving music AND the volume of said music. My friends will talk about the banger menu music on discord, and I’m like “hmmm, wouldn’t know, turned it off”.
Why do I get anxious about the top 10 list lol!! Great podcast
Only cos its been bugging me since 1st listening on Spotify;...... BIGGER wheels (not smaller) make a car travel faster than the speedo shows. Smaller wheels make a car accellerate faster but also causes the speedometer to read faster than is actual, meaning they are actually travelling slower.
Anyway, love the podcasts guys :)
Also, 22:12 lmao
Agree on the the no music front, both in game and real life. Perhaps at most 1% of my total driving time has been while listening to music.
Racing game music can be a double edged sword. I really loved a ceratin track from NFS Underground. Ride by Lost prophets. Only to then hear about their leads other interests... and that was the last time I could happily go listen to that track.
1:16:20 I was 20 and bought my first BMW 320 on the way home Beenie man-who am I came on the radio. Zim zimmer who got the keys to my bimmer😎 I remember singing out loud to myself I’ve got the keys to my bimmer
31:49 Huge fan of yours here. Been watching since TDC started (watched Overdrive as well). And I'm Iranian
I think there is a market for cars with insane mileage. If you see an old Citroen with 250k miles on it they always seem to get snapped up. If you have a mediocre car clock it to have 300k+ and suddenly I think people will be knocking your door down! Not saying you should do that, just that someone might!
The video game references is what makes me love this podcast more than the auto Alex one.
I literally do have an Aygo, and yeah you can drive it if you want lol. IMO the 3cyl sounds much better than most boring 4cyl's
definetly rule this week for me, picked up a set of brand new weds kranze cerberus monoblocks with brand new toyo proxes for 230 quid!